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It's come to my attention that much of /v/ hates FFX. Why?

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It's come to my attention that much of /v/ hates FFX. Why?
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>>323919807

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJotVinhXJ4
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The linear story, predefined characters, and relatively little gameplay customization give the player no room to occupy the narrative and make the experience their own.
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>>323919807
No option to rape Yunalesca.

Also, that lighting minigame.
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>>323919807
It's not a bad game, but it is a bad FF game.
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I now bring to your attention the fact that X is not a single person, and there's a thread up right now of people screaming all about how X-2 has ruined the things that X did right story-wise.
No need to thank me, just let this thread die now.
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>>323919807
>"I love you"
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I don't hate it but it isn't a very good game at all.
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>>323920550
>lightning game
>chocobo race
>the fucking butterflies.
>ten hours worth of blitzball
It's not like I wanted those ultimate weapons or anything.
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>>323919807
To many FFVII fans FFX is what FFVII is to FFVI.
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Rank the final fantasy games /v/

Go
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They didn't understand the story.

Neither did I. I'm still trying to figure it out 14 years later.
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>>323922527
FFXIV - 1
FFX-2 - 2
FFX - 3
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The rest.
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>>323922557
Dead people are behind everything, that's all anyone needs to know
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FFX is shit-tier and boring. I couldn't even finish it despite playing it as a teen when it came out AND trying the HD version later on as an adult.

It just is not an interesting story. The characters are lame. I can't stand the protagonist. Yuna is the worst female character ever made.

It's just not a good game. It's literally one of the worst Final Fantasy games ever made.
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>>323919807
I hate it, but i don't think /v/ actually hates it
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>>323922865
>Yuna is the worst female character ever made.
That's not Rinoa.
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>>323922334
A much better game that improves on everything it does drastically?

That would be FFVIII for FFVII, and FFIX for FFVIII and FFX for FFIX.

So far we can only hope FFXV finally eclipses FFX.
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>>323922527
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>>323923162
No, Rinoa is better than Yuna. Yuna didn't even feel like a real person. She was like a robot. I couldn't stand her.
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>>323920252
>mfw people don't realize that this is actually a really good scene and the message was "put on a fake laugh if you can't feel good so people still look up to you."

And then they end up actually laughing

fuck.
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>>323923162
this Rinoa is trash, even Aeris better
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>>323923264

Yeah fuck off.
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>>323923264
>ff9
>mid-tier
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>>323923264
>8
>on the list at all
opinion discarded
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>>323923264
VI is the most overrated game of all time
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>>323923264
FF13 should be in it's own absolute shit tier. I hated every single character except for Sazh and Lightning.
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>>323923264

>FFVIII high tier

Into the trash it goes.
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>>323923272
Yuna was extremely dedicated and willing to sacrifice herself for 10 years of Calm.

Rinoa is millenial SJW who expects everyone to work and die for her amusement.
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>>323923589
SO you agree with me then.

Rinoa felt like a real human bean and Yuna felt like a shitty, unrelateable robot.
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>>323922557
Here is what I remember. Tidus is a dream turned into a reality because of the aeons dreaming. Sin is always replaced by the summoners body guard who then kills the summoner. Yuna and co. broke the cycle because they killed all the aeons which also meant erasing the Tidus they knew. Also Tidus dad was Sin because somehow he knew Yuna's dad in the future or some shit. Auron was also a ghost time traveler.

Now that I think about it I don't understand either.
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>>323922067
ok blitzball was great. Probably the best sports game I've ever played. The key to never losing is to hire rikku's brother for the team, because for some reason he's the best god damn player in the game by far.
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>>323923696

>real human bean
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>>323923696
Probably because you're a spoiled piece of shit yourself.
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>>323923757
>because of the aeons dreaming
fayths

>>323923757
>time traveler
There's no time travel in the game.
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>>323919807
Because it was the beginning of the end.
Play FFXIII than go back to play FFX and just see how similar those games are.
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>>323924016
They're not similar at all.

The combat system and RPG elements in FFX are still the old-school system.
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>>323919807
Tidus, Yuna and Seymour have one of the worst conflict in fiction I've ever seen. It was like someone poured Mumm-Ra into 90210
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>>323924016
Every single FF after original FFXIII is drastically different.
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>>323924016
Nuhuh FFXII was the best game on the playstation 2. IDK why they went from FFXII to XIII. They had such a successful formula with their real time gameplay and hunts. What happened square?

And where is my console Dissidia damn it.
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>>323923790
blitzball is terrible
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>>323920380
Then why do people love ix so much?
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>>323924361
Shitter detected.

>he didn't win the Tourney

How does it feel to let Waaka down so much? All he wanted was to do his people proud.
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>>323924361
you're just bad at it
it was great. I even won the game you have to play for the story.
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>>323923397
Right? It should be below shit tier.
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>>323924016
So
>X-2
>XI
>XII
>Revenant Wings
>Crisis Core
>Type-0
>XIII-2
>XIV
>LR
don't exist? X certainly wasn't the beginning of the end.
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>>323924361
I enjoyed it, where do we go from here? Shitpost each other until 404 or just leave it at that?
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>>323924503
It's not even that hard.
>stall the first half.
>get in a Jecht Shot in the second half.
>???
>win.
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>>323924667
No it should be god-tier.

Final Fantasy Tactics is literally "I have never played an RPG in my life"- tier and belongs in the shitter.
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>>323923790
Actually the key to never losing is get the jecht shot have tidus score a goal get the ball back then hide in your goal
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>>323923264
good taste a lot of /v/ does this hivemind shit taste thing but i'm glad some people don't follow it
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>>323923589
Yuna: determined to achieve another calm at the cost of her life. Sheltered but capable.
Rinoa: well meaning retard who constantly fucked up and made things worse.
Garnet: see rinoa

They're all trash compared to tifa and freya.
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>>323924407
because none of the characters are designed to be self inserts. ffix has a self contained story. everyone has a role, a background, and the flow of events make sense.

On the other hand, FFX's story ultimately fails for the same reason FFV did. The main character is designed to be a self-insert blank slate thats just along for the ride, but at the same time he gets pushed into relationships and happenings that feel unnatural. There's very little reason to take some crazy kid along on a pilgrimage to kill yourself. Before you reach zanarkand, he is a literal retard in terms of the world's common sense and is complete dead weight. The relationship between him and yuna is completely forced, shes just desperate for anyone and bam , there you are. Mr. Dense retard ready and willing to give her the D because HAAHAAHAA.

Remove tidus from the story, and the story still works.
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>>323924527
>I even won the game you have to play for the story.
I hope you're talking about PS2 version, because in HD they nerfed the opposing team.
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>>323925180
>capable.
The dumb slut gets kidnapped every tuesday.
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>>323919807
X is the last good FF game, most /v/irgins are just salty because they weren't alive during its release
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>>323925180
I guess we can all agree that THE best girl is Yuffie.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjZuxAWb8a8
what's your favourite battle music? Mine's 8 and 6
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>>323925289
the ps2 version can still be easily won just because the defenders wont chase you near your own goal
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>>323919807
It's a pretty girly game but I still like it
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>>323923279
I'm a big fan of ffx but that scene is still terrible
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>>323925207
>Remove tidus from the story, and the story still works.
The entire purpose of the story is that Jecht wants to die and only Tidus can do it.
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I personally love FFX, it's my favourite FF. Fuck the haters.
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>>323925527
when i got ffx i had to play on a black and white tv because my family was in the middle of moving. The game was great, i loved it and thought the art direction was amazing.

Then we finished our move and i put it on a color tv. I had never played a gayer game in my entire life. the fuck was square thinking.
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>>323925428
1 and 2
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>>323925747
>colors are gay
>i wish i cud claw my heart out only to see it being black like my soul
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>>323925180
Freya? Nah. She stops growing as a character halfway through the disc, and is simply there for you to use if you want to use her.

Tifa? Nah. Tifa did jack shit. She was there for 'muh tits' and little else. Her story arc was basically just the writers shoehorning her into a storyline she had literally no reason to be in. It was like they decided to add her early on, but completely forgot to expand upon her purpose and reason for even being present. Tifa was literal Mary Sue tier, but folks got them nostalgia goggles on and go gaga for tits and 'muh waifu' and shit, so naturally she gets a pass in spite of that.
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>>323925207
Yuna is just as fucking stupid as Tidus.
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>>323923757

Auron wasn't a time traveller he was in Spira alongside Braska, a monk that became Braska's guardian. Sin sends him to Dream Zanarkand at the start of the game to fetch Tidus. As far as I know Dream Zanarkand is actually in Spira, it's just so far out of the way Sin would likely stop anyone who nears it
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>>323925932
How did you managed to fit so many buzzword in one post?
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>>323925207
Tidus narrated as you went along. I won't call him a great character, but him acting all dumb and looking back on it was hardly a blank slate. And x's story was completely straightforward. They go to zanarkand, and Seymour fucks shit up from time to time. They were gonna leave tidus in Luca but auron showed up and made him come.

Besides, ff9's story was just a shitty, edgy version of iv with some Vi and Vii mixed in. Half that games cast was unnecessary. Did we really need freya to suffer losing her entire species AND FIND out her lover forgot her, only to be completely dropped? Were amarant and quina important at all? Ff9 was just a string of tragedy to build up to ff4's plot twist.
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>>323926083
I'm simply trying to explain things as simply as possible, and by shoving in as many buzzwords as possible, it makes it easier for the kids here to understand.
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>>323925738
Found the kiddo.

FFX is only the favorite FF for people who have it as babby's first FF game.
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>>323926469
Jokes on you, i've played all the other mainline games. I went back and played FFX for a second time later on in life and it's still my favourite.
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>>323925932
>freya stops growing so early

Don't remind me. The only thing they gave freya was shoehorning her into Steiner and beatrix' defending-Alexandria bit to show how much of a good person freya is to fight alongside beatrix despite what she did. Freya can help save the humans, but fuck her own people. Who cares about them?
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>>323925907
>lol u edgy faget

not what I was trying to say you easily offended nigger. The game's color scheme works on a technical level, which is why it looks fine in black and white. However, making everything into pastels and soft colors is gay as fuck.
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>>323925207
>Remove tidus from the story, and the story still works.

Yuna dies, Sin eventually comes back, the cycle continues. The whole point of Tidus being there was him questioning the religion left and right. Yeah he didn't know a lot, but it wasn't the world he knew and the only thing he could say when people acted like he should know is "Sin's toxin".

Without him being there, they don't even begin to get the idea to end the cycle.
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>>323927006
>crawling in mein skinn
>herr furher never win
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>>323920252

This scene is heartwarming.
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>>323927114
back to reddit brave adventurer.
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Freya is still best grill.
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>>323922527
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>>323928959

Same as mine, although II and VIII have angrier faces.
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>>323923279
It must be the most out-of-context scene used in video game history. It's so much less retarded if you actually played the game.

Also FFX-2 is terrible. It made FFX look like FFVII for chrissake.
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>>323919807
because it's not on steam yet
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>>323929375
Well of course.
Garbage jrpgs like Neptunia instantly become 10/10 goty when they reach Steam
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>>323919807
Because they fucked over bara husbando blue mage (most fun class imho) with their retarded levelling system
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>>323929786
>manlet
>top husbando
lol
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>>323923264
Where the fuck is IV?
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>>323931797
Dude, it's clearly in high tier.
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>>323920380
>linear story
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>>323931453
>manlet
Only by Ronso standards. For you, he's still a big guy
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Where to begin....

>pretentious whiny main character
>50 hours of unskippable cutscenes
>gameplay is basically "button mash to win" with no strategy in the turn based combat
>story is complete hogwash with no likable characters
>airship is completely useless and doesn't let you explore
>areas and locations are LITERALLY corridors that you can't deviate from
>sidequests and missions are completely broken and not fun in the slightest
>endgame bosses are only fun if you grind, which is a sin in a video game and should be instantly discarded as bad unless you can beat Penance at level 10 or bypass the insane stat requirements
>garbage fanservice via Lulu (le every game needs sex fanservice XDXD)

Among the few problems I had. I'd never recommend this game even to the most diehard fan.
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>>323925423
As it should be discussion over lads
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Tidus reminds /v/ too much of themselves.

>>323920380
You just described literally every Final Fantasy game and I'm sure about 90% of JRPGs. This genre isn't for you.
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>>323923279

What you just said is the equivalent of "I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED". the scene is unnecessary and stupid no matter the context.
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>>323919807
Blitzball was shit.
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>>323932509
>>pretentious whiny main character
How is Tidus pretentious?
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>>323919807
/v/ simply hates good games
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>>323933572
Any game or character that has writing that is higher than a high school level gets called pretentious around here. Devs wrote an intricate story? Pretentious. Character has deep personal struggles and grows over the game? Nope, just pretentious.

/v/ doesn't know what the words pretentious, autistic, shill, cuck, marketer, edgy, or mary sue mean. They're just generic buzzwords standard /v/ posters cycle through to fit in.
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>>323919807
>linear as fuck
>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
>shit character designs
>shit voice acting
>shit dialogue
>shit story
>shit gameplay
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>>323919807
JRPGs aren't to everyones tastes, a lot of posters here can't recognize that and simply declare their taste is the only one others should adhere to.
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Only neo-/v/eddit does. FFX was well liked here in the past.
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>>323934538
>>linear as fuck
Every Final Fantasy ever
>>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Cringe-worthy scene, nobody can deny.
>>shit character designs
Tidus' was bad but everyone else's was fine.
>>shit voice acting
They really grew over the course of the game and got comfortable with their roles. Also tell me that Auron's VA wasn't 10/10.
>>shit dialogue
"I didn't like it so it's bad."
>>shit story
"I didn't like it so its bad"
>>shit gameplay
"I didn't like it so it's bad."
FFX's battle system is 10/10, it's one of the things the game does incredibly right.
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>>323934538
>most games are linear as fuck you just dont notice, X wasnt as bad as 13 because it atleast had branching paths and hidden nooks to find
>missing the point of that scene
>opinion I personally liked it
>It could have been worse, they pulled it off ok for being forced to synch to the japanese mouth movements
>incorrect
>a tad complicated if you dont pay attention but not terrible
>X has some of the best in the series until the super end game and if you dislike it because of turnbased then why are you even in a FF thread sperg
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>>323932509
>>323934314
>Any game or character that has writing that is higher than a high school level
That's funny because that's exactly who FFX sounds like it was written by.
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>>323919807
I used to love FFX, but now I'm extremely bitter about it, because all of the methods of getting ultimate weapons are bullshit.
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>>323935794
Lulu's the only one I'm still missing.
fuck that 200 lightning dodges. I can make my own break damage moogle.
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>>323935794
>>323936185
The only one I couldnt do was kimahris because colorblindness

My fucking mom jumped infont of me with vacuum when I was at 198 for lightning jumps though and then took my ps2 away when I went FUCK SHIT MOVE
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