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DMC4:SE>DMC3>Bayonetta>DMC4>Bayonetta 2>DMC>DmC>Wonderful 101
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>>323911423
>DMC4>DMC3
Anon..
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>>323912329
>implying on the fly style switching isn't the best thing to ever happen to the series
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>>323911423
>DMC4:SE>DMC3
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>>323912590
It doesn't make up for the nerfed styles
You can also just mod DMC3
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>>323912590
Styleswitching is cool but no weapons, no new moves, removed moves and nerfed styles are not fun at all. DMC3 just offers so much more.
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DMC3 > 4
BUT
Uncle Dante > Dante
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>>323911423

I agree
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>>323913368
>>323912907
>>323912329

DMC4 is mechanically superior to DMC3. DMC3 is better for casual play because it has a more polished story and narrative
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Is he ever coming back?
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>>323911423
How the fuck does one play Lady in 4:SE? Am I just bad or is it a genuinely shit character?
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Where's DMC2?
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>>323913536
>add style switcher to DMC3
>it's now the superior game in every singel aspect
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>>323913774

Nope
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DMC3 Mod > DMC4:SE > DMC3 > DMC4 > Bayonetta = W101 > Bayo2 > DMC > DmC


ftfy
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>>323913701
jk, it wasn't that bad but it was definitely forgettable
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>>323913536
It doesn't mean much if there's no content to play with. Revellion is better in 3, Gilgamesh is shit and useless version of Beowulf and Nevan is like million times more awesome and fun than Lucifer. Don't forget, DMC3 also has even more weapons, both melee and ranged, more styles and actually fun to use gunslinger.
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>>323913815
>>323912989
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>>323913774
Nah. It's better for only playing Dante but it doesn't have five fucking characters.
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>>323913828
>W101 being higher than anything
Leave.
Actually,
>W101 even being there
What the hell are you all doing.
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>>323914067
>I'm bad
I know anon, it's alright to not get how to do anything.
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Why do so many people put Bayo above Bayo 2? Is there even a difference between the games?
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Wonderful 101 has perfectly competent combat that I hesitate to say is better than Bayo purely because of the emphasis on chaining raw moves together rather than dial in combos let down by a lack of variety.
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>>323914124
This is the only argument I ever see. And it's the weakest possible one. Something dotafags use when told that their game is shit.
It's garbage. Kill yourself.
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>>323914374
Bayo has noticeably better mechanics and combo potential. Bayo2 does in fact feel watered down when going from the first game to that one but it's still a solid game.

>>323914484
What else can I say? You can do shit just like in any other P* game and more. Some combos even end up being harder to pull off and more "cuhrazee" than in bayo.
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>>323914374
Yes. People do it because the first game is harder and has better boss fights, and people don't like Umbran Climax. Some also think the first one has better weapons.
Personally I think the second fixed 99% of what I hated about the first game.
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>>323914602
>any other P* game
Most of them barely have any depth, what are you talking about.
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Bayo 2 has slightly worse but still great combat than Bayo one, but it's miles better than it in almost every other area making it a more enjoyable experience as a whole assuming you played the game for more than nothing but the combat alone.
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Ninja Gaiden Black > *
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>>323914874
I'm saying that W101 has just as much, maybe even more, depth than those games and because you're bad you write the game off as being bad. I'm sorry you can't string together a combo, it's not my fault. I would recommend you trying to play the game for more than 10 minutes before being shut down by the first gamepad "puzzle".
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>>323912989
Is this a tas? How do you even get this good?
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>>323915039
>just as much, maybe even more
What's so exceptionally good about having slightly more depth than games with almost no depth?
>ur just bad xD
This again. I might as well just discard your opinion right here.
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Will Kamiya ever recapture the level of depth that was present in DMC4? Bayo, MGR, and W101 all let me down with it's combo string > launcher > slow down dodge and/or parry shit.
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>DMC 4
>shit tier puzzles that are more annoying than anything
>Nero is a little shit and annoying
>Some of the worst bosses of the series
>that backtracking
>last boss is quite possibly one of the shittiest bosses of all time if No More Heroes 2 never existed

>DMC 3
>cool environments
>cool varied basic enemies
>awesome varied bosses that aren't just giant punching bags
>can't switch styles on the fly but you can with weapons and not switching styles gives you time to level them fully
>fight Virgil 3 times and everytime its awesome and challenging
>no annoying characters like Kierie or Nero
>Lady is one hot piece of ass that Dante definitely got with afterword
>no shitty time limit in the Bloody Palace
>multiple costumes to unlock after beating it


DMC 3 is the better game hands down.
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People actually put Bayo 1 over 2? I liked it more for less gimmicky sections and throwing in tag climax mode.
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>>323916113
They are both mediocre when compared to Devil May Cry.

Might not be fair to Kamiya since he didn't work on DMC 3 and 4 but its worth comparing them because they try so hard to be DMC and fail.
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Wonderful 101 would have been good if someone stopped Kamiya whenever he had a bad idea (hey lets put in another behind-the-back gamepad section)
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>>323915634
>No More Heroes 2
You just don't get it, it was SYMBOLIC
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>>323915634
Wow this isn't biased at all
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>>323913536
For some reason ive always loved the combat more in dmc3 than dmc4
It felt a bit easier and more controllable to do combos
It was also a lot easier to time royal guard blocks
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>>323912989
>that infinite devil trigger
Main reason why I hate these webms
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Let me show you how its done
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>>323915634

>awesome varied bosses that aren't just giant punching bags
Yeah, because that giant centipede was fucking awesome. S.mdh
>no annoying characters like Kierie or Nero
How were they annoying?

I'm not arguing DMC3 > DMC4 but your opinions are shit. Besides, DMC4SE has the better gameplay and more characters.
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>>323917667
>giant centipede was fucking awesome
More awesome than a fucking window at least.
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>>323917667
Kierie and Nero were pointless additions to the series.

I have no problem with the damsel in distress shit but she was totally pointless to the overall story...not that DMC 4 had a very good story to begin with. And you should be arguing DMC 3> DMC 4 because its obvious which one is the better game.

>the worm boss
isn't even Hard to beat and can be done pretty quickly even on your first try. The last boss in DMC 4 is fucking terrible...its like they were trying to do the Mundus thing from DMC 1 over again and made it worse somehow.
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>>323915634
>>DMC 3
>>cool environments
Nice bait, Temen-Ni-Gru is probably the lamest place in the series, there's very little variety to it and you don't feel a sense of progression on your way there
>>cool varied basic enemies
Right, because I love fighting the same hell prides for the millionth times. If anything the lack of decent enemy variety is one of the 3s weakest points. The regular mooks are the definition of punching bags, even more than the fucking scarecrows.
>>awesome varied bosses that aren't just giant punching bags
Are you trying to claim that 4s are? I get the impression you haven't played it and are just spouting epic /v/ memes. Regardless, the only good bosses in 3 were the Vergil fights and doppleganger. The rest were either annoying as fuck, like Gigapede or just flat out shit. The bosses in 4, while repeated were fun to fight and you could do a lot with them that you can't in 3. I can't say the same for the majority in 3.
>>can't switch styles on the fly but you can with weapons and not switching styles gives you time to level them fully
I don't get what you're trying to say here
>>fight Virgil 3 times and everytime its awesome and challenging
>Virgil
>>no annoying characters like Kierie or Nero
Kyrie isn't annoying and neither is Nero, they're both young and Nero is supposed to be hot headed and it shows.
>>Lady is one hot piece of ass that Dante definitely got with afterword
Lady is worst girl though, she's an absolute fucking cunt the entire way through and goes on to be a greedy bitch later in the series, get some better tatste.
>>no shitty time limit in the Bloody Palace
You can just mod it off
>>multiple costumes to unlock after beating it
I agree
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>>323917667
Ugh gigapede was such a horrible boss. It's the worst but I'm honestly not a fan of Leviathan's insides, Beowulf, Chariot, or blobby Arkham.

I feel like SE for DMC4 did a good job getting me to like the game more than 3SE.
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>>323917976
As shit as he was The Saviour wasn't the final boss senpai.
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>>323918034
>Regardless, the only good bosses in 3 were the Vergil fights and doppleganger.
Nevan and hell vanguard are pretty good, and I'll admit I'm the only person ever to like the jester fights, but I sat down and figured them out, it's pretty interesting
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>>323917976

I'm not arguing which game is better because I generally think DMC3 is better than 4.
Though, when it comes to swordplay sex, DMC4 has gameplay down.

>>323917887

Both were shit.
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>>323911423
Surprisingly accurate list
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DMC3 has nunchuks

DMC4 doesn't

DMC3 is obviously superior
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>>323915634
>>cool varied basic enemies

Nah. Fuck these things. These and the blood raven things were a waste of fucking time.
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>>323918034
>Agni and Rudra
>Nevan
>Both Beowulf fights
>Cerberus
>bad boss fights
I think you just need to go play DMC 3 again
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>>323918472

>Both beowulf fights

I'm not him, but are you remembering the game right or am I unaware of a second fight outside of the mission 18 rematch where you fight everyone
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>>323918406
I almost never used Cerburs were they good for anything?
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ITT: Butthurt dmc4 apologists
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>>323918604

They're the weakest of the weapons, but they stun fucking everything and hit everywhere, plus they were easy to JC

only real drawback besides no power is no launcher if you aren't using swordmaster.

plus they're fucking nunchuks
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>>323918472
Cerberus really wasn't that great of a fight.
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>>323918472
Never found Beowulf that fun to fight. He mostly came off as a giant damage sponge that was really easy to dodge. What exactly is cool about Cerberus though?

Agni and Rudra were damn fun though.
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>>323918406
>tfw you will never have the time to unlock the nunchucks in Bayonetta

just fucking tell us the cheat, kamiya
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Best DMC coming through!
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>>323918594
No I was mistaken anon my bad im going off memory here..its been a few months since I played it. He comes back and Virgil finishes him off before you fight him the second time.
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>>323918805

>tfw I unlocked them
>on my PS3 copy

the jokes on meeeeee
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>>323918805
Man that shit was a pain in the ass, worth it to play as Bayo Lee.
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>>323918749
Cerberus is the first real challenge the game throws at you. Pretty much the scrub killer.
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>>323911423

Ninja Gaiden >>>>>> All of those
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>>323918858
Vergil vs Beowulf is just a cutscene though
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>>323919109

I'm sure that's what he's saying you jackass
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>>323919021

Seeing as normal mode was our hard mode, yeah.
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>>323912590
True, but everything else in DMC4 sucks ass
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>>323914874
>Most
Regardless if we include Clover or not, Madworld and Anarchy Reigns is not "most".
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>>323919197
I greatly enjoyed the weapons, banter between bosses, Credo and Berial fights, and environments desu
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>mfw wii u fags were touting bluderful 101 as the best game ever because they were that starved of games
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DMC 1 is my favorite
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>>323919635

Me too.
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>>323911423
>Wonderful 101
Git gud, buddy.
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Wonderful 101 comes closest to DMC's actual gameplay. Bayonetta is just God of War with a style emphasis.
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>>323919729
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>>323919901
Bayo is god of war with a slow down mechanic and jump cancels
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>>323919917
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>>323920002
Don't forget that the slow down mechanic is actually a crutch the game weens you off of and is intended to be ultimately played without it.
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>>323920109
I wish Bayo2 didn't rely on it
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>>323920204
Except it doesn't, there's no enemy you can't beat without it.
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>>323915634
>>Some of the worst bosses of the series
Sanctus and the Savior aside, I thought 4's bosses were fine. The real problem was making us fight them three times (even more than that in the SE).
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>>323918406
Shirtless Dante + Cerberus and Beowulf = best Bruce Lee simulator ever.
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>>323911423
>I couldn't get good at TW101

That's what you mean.
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>>323913368
As someone who's been playing DMC undoubtedly longer than 99% of you, I fucking hate you "uncle dante" memers so much.
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I genuinely hope there won't be as much playable characters in DMC5 as in 4SE, unless they're bonus. Instead they should focus on 2 or 3 characters and improve and upgrade their mechanics.
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>>323914484
>>323915257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqRqHM7RhyU

The game does have its shit moments who the fuck makes a Gradius segment using THAT camera angle but the combat is certainly not one of them.
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Is this another one of those threads were people forget that a vital part to action games is good enemy designs. Guess which two popular DMC games had shit enemies, 3 and 4.
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>play wonderful 101
>assist bomb into gun stinger + team attack spam
>instantly stunlock them into being launched
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>>323916113
I like both for different reasons:

Bayo 2
> has slightly better weapon variety in terms of movesets.
> Tag Climax
> Lumen Sage is fun as fuck.

Bayo 1
> Witch time lasts longer, but doesn't trigger off of everything.
> Slightly better combat overall.
> Bosses are far more memorable.

yeah. If Bayo 2 were closer to 1's combat, I think it would win by a good margin.
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