Which dragon type is the best?
>A: no legs, no hands
>B: rear legs, no hands
>C: no legs, hands
>D: rear legs, hands
>E: rear and front legs, no hands
Are japs the only ones who do upright bipedal dragons?
it so happens that I'm an expert in this field
and >>323833686 this anon know what's up
Holy fuck it's almost like Dragons have always been monsters and where never fucking intended to look like they followed a logical evolutionary path.
Wyrms are winged lizards, Dragons are something else entirely. The entire fucking point is that they defy realism
This is the most autistic stupid meme on 4chan.
DnD did not invent dragons. Just because in DnD these dragons have different names and stats doesn't mean they aren't all dragons.
In the context of tabletop gaming you can get butthurt over someone saying the creature with no legs is a dragon, but in the context of EVERYTHING ELSE they are all dragons.
I always find these arguments stupid
Western Dragons are the best.
D. Might as well count, it follows the same principles of a dragon, just takes some liberties.
It can also look fantastic
Holy fuck just give up and stop trying to give your winged lizard monster a 'dragon' classification. The rest of the modern world agrees what a dragon looks like already and if we listened to you we'd all think little people chucking hammers are what goblins should be.
Grow the fuck up.
A wyrm doesn't have legs or wings, it's a draconic serpent-
A is a flying wyrm, flying serpent, or shenlong or whatever, they don't have one specific name in english.
B and C are wyverns
D and E are dragons.
F, winged forelegs like smaug is a wyvern or a dragon depending who you ask, but they are generally wyverns.
A drake is a bastard dragon, basically a weak dragon, and comes in all forms as far as i know.
All of them are also called dragons; but also drakes because many languages only have drake, and no dragon.
However, since you can make a carp into a dragon in your story, everything anyone says about anything can be disregarded. This only applies if you actually want to be anal about it. According to jayden, 12 years old, every fantasy monster that is like a scaly behemoth with wings are dragons, and anything without wings are also dragons what the fuck did you expect
DnD has nothing to do with it, though it most certainly build it's image of dragons from their most accurate portrayals. Most historical depections of dragons put them with four legs and two wings.
While examples like >>323835524 certainly do exists, the portrayals I described are mostly consistent.
They're like this because Dragons are not animals, they are monsters. Like the minotaur and vampires they have no bearing in nature like wyrms do. They are their own class, which is why people get butthurt when others call winged lizards dragons.
I've always preferred the Wyrm-style dragon, with bat wing-like front limbs and rear legs. Vermithrax Pejorative from "Dragonslayer" and the dragons from "Reign of Fire" are the best examples.
It's fucking retarded. People trying to act like paleontologists. How fucking retarded can you get?
You have to have a special kind of autist to look at two dragons that look almost nothing alike and then go ''yes, this is the same species! they both have 4 legs and 2 wings!''. What if the dragon has only one eye or two heads? You're going to invent a new species? Call them Blyrgzsts?
Is pic related a dragon? How do you decide? You're going to look at how many limbs it has and then completely ignore that it's blue? You're going to ignore the shape of it's head and wings? Maybe this isn't a dragon. Maybe it's a gyhlon™ or a puchakabara™. I can make up stupid original content do not steal names too.
It's so stupid. Take your DnD autism elsewhere.
>DnD has nothing to do with it
>Take your DnD autism elsewhere
What the fuck nigger.
Historically, Dragons are depicted with four legs and two wings. DnD did not decide that, LotR didn't either. It was the stories and legends going as far back as the fucking bible, where Dragons where originated and originally portrayed. The legs and wings is what determines whether or not it's a dragon. This is what makes them monsters, and it's what makes them Dragons. There's no other bearing or classifications needed. It could have six heads, one eye or 40 tails and it would still be a dragon as long as it had four legs and two wings because that was how they where created. I don't see what part of that is hard to understand. Again, they are fantasy MONSTERS, how is it a problem if it's blue or purple?
Yes Blue Eyes is absolutely a dragon. So is Red Eyes, so is Galaxy Eyes. All completely different from eachother but all dragons none the less.
These people don't even see how retarded they look to those who know better.
This shit is like if someone posted ''who is your favorite vampire'' and then some autist who has never read any World of Darkness material went ''NOOOO! THAT'S NOT A VAMPIRE!!!! That's a Camarilla! That's Nosferatu! THEY ARE NOT FUCKING VAMPIRES!! YOU CAN TELL FROM THE CLOTHING THEY ARE WEARING!!!''
They're all fucking vampires.
Not only do these dragonfags not understand that they are talking about DnD shit, but they aren't even familiar with the DnD shit.
>Which dragon type is the best?
Trick question, they all equally deserve the human dick.
So let me get this straight
>someone looks at dragons as depicted in stories and legends
>decides to make it more realistic looking with four limbs instead of six
This is no longer a dragon. Not historically accurate (despite there being some depictions of dragons like these in history)
>someone looks at dragons as depicted in stories and legends
>decides to paint it blue
>gives it 10 cocks
>the dragon now shits diarrhoea from it's mouth
>wears a fedora and a top hat
>posts on /v/
This is still a dragon because ''6 limbs historically accurate XD''.
Yep, basically. I can't help how others depict their crappy Dragon OCs, and my opinion on the matter doesn't change the fact that they still have the necessary attributes to be classified as a dragon. Saying a winged lizard is a dragon is like saying a cute anime girl with tiny bull horns is a minotaur. Again, a dragon is not based on realism.
This is all said while speaking of classical European dragons mind you. Different cultures have different definitions of dragons, though the European depiction is the most well known and used.
Protip: there are many types of dragons, because civilizations all over the world and throughout time have dragon stories. Chinese dragons are very different from European dragons which are different from Kulkukan and Quetzacoatl who differ from African dragons.
>Ye old timey world
>bring a severed crocodile head to some kingdom
>get hailed as a dragon slayer
Dragons were never born from evolution. Evolution doesn't rule out six limbs. Evolution isn't an argument unless you're trying to prove they're not real, at which point i don't know what to say to you.
>Dragons were never born from evolution
Wrong. In a lot of settings dragons are considered ordinary beasts that presumably evolved like every other animal.
>Evolution doesn't rule out six limbs
It ruled out six limbs for vertebrates in earth. As most settings with dragons have vertebrates with 4 limbs, it is not believable just the dragon to have 6 limbs.
Flying, heavenly, powerful, wise motherfucking dragons that don't need wings to fly.
>Saying a winged lizard is a dragon is like saying a cute anime girl with tiny bull horns is a minotaur.
There are a variety of differences between a hulking anthropomorhpic mancow and an anime girl.
The only major difference between a wyvern and what you autistics strictly consider a dragon is 2 legs. Aside from that, they're the same fucking flying, fire-breathing, make-believe lizards.
It's not wrong. Those instances you talk about are as you say, setting specific. Evolution does not rule out anything, because it is a concept, life on earth is not the facio. You're not supposed to be convinced they exist, you don't have to believe it. You only have to suspend your disbelief, and that's not the same as believing they could be hiding in the himalayas somewhere.
You sillies, dragons appeared with the dinosaurs.
It's a Long, also commonly known as oriental dragon.
Shitposting about things you are not passionate or knowledgleable of doesn't make you look smart, so do us all a favor and just stop posting.
I know, I mentioned that?
In their nativity dragons resembled other animals yes, however they where never born as something that derived from a pre existing species. The concept was to have a monster that does not exist and would not exist. The fact that they have no evolutionary bearing is intentional.
A winged creature that evolved from a lizard is exactly that, and not a dragon. No major culture depicted them as such, and what you're describing is just a trend.
Exactly, and one of them is a wyvern while the other is a dragon.
Though a wyvern is not entirely make believe, which is it's basic premise. The premis of a dragon is that it is entirely make believe. See the difference?
Basically everyone except your screaming ass has acknowledged that different cultures have different dragons, and that an oriental dragon is it's own thing.
We are talking European dragons here, but in the same breath Oriental dragons are cool as hell.
You're like a kid who only talks louder the further he gets from having it his way, calm down
>Though a wyvern is not entirely make believe
It's 100% make believe.
I'm fucking done with this place, jesus christ
/tg/ plz i know your board is infested with questshit but...
Get the fuck back to your board.
I presume it depends heavily on certain attributes from each dragon. By that I mean that a single picture can't really say how close any of those are to being a dragon. We don't know if A through E can actually breathe fire, or if A through E can actually use their wings to fly. For all we know A could just be a snake with nonfunctional wings, whilst E is just a komodo dragon with nonfunctional wings. Knowledge encyclopedia on myth encyclopedia states a dragon is generally known as being able to shoot fire from its mouth, though this is obviously different from chinese, native american, etc. dragons, but those are generally depicted without wings.
Also from knowledge encyclopedia: A dragon-like creature with no front legs is known as a wyvern. Following discovery of how pterosaurs walked on the ground, some dragons have been portrayed without front legs and using the wings as front legs pterosaur-fashion when on the ground.
This whole discussion basically boils down to the stupidity of the image and information from OP, he could have given us a completely different image depicting 5 different 'demon' looking monsters that are also different from religion to religion, culture to culture, both with and without wings, with and without horns, and they'd all be equally eligible to be considered demons.
What exactly is hard to believe about it? There are and have been gliding lizards before, and look and bats. A wyvern is meant to appear natural, logical and fully plausible. A dragon is something that shouldn't be able to exist, and thus doesn't and never shall.
There's a lot of things dragons have been portrayed with. Some are poisonous with no fire while some are wish granters. While fire is certainly the most popular I always look at the ability to do something that seems magical or supernatural, rather than one specific capability. You take that, and the visuals of whichever cultural dragon you prefer, and bam, a true dragon.
>European dragons here
I won't call them European because europe has his massive share of different types of dragons, pic related, a north spanish dragon.
Talking about it, the whole four legs+two wings comes from where? germanic myths?
No,the dragons in neverwinter nights rested on four legs but walked on two.
I think in D&D you need hands to perform most magic so dragons are implied to be bipedal since they are magical creatures.
>"Dragon" is just a metaphor for "Satan".
Bullshit,Europeans had folk tales about dragons before your sandnigger cult took over.
>Everything is in da bible we made everything
Christian fandom is almost as bad as undertale's or sonic's god damn.
What bothers me more than 2/4 legs, is how western wyvern dragons always have fucking spikes everywhere.
I can understand horns, maybe ridges down their back and claws on their feet and maybe even on the wings at the main joint.
But do you need spikes on your nose? On your eyebrows? Your chin? Your fucking jaw? On your shoulders? On your chest? Your fucking stomach? Even spikes where you dick is suppose to be? How about KNEE SPIKES? Or spikes on the back of your fucking legs? One of those fucking dragons has spikes coming out of his fucking spikes.
Why the fuck do they have so many spikes?
Fuck the rules I pick 5 headed dragon.
5 times harder to kill
Every elemental breath.
Pussy ass 1 head dragons be mirin
Can we all agree that Dragons with feline anatomy are absolute garbage?
>playing Etrian Odyssey Untold
>"We need you to collect a dragon's egg from the wyvern's nest"
I'm saying it's the 'best'. All you faggots arguing about fantastic nomenclature about mystical beast. I love you all.