>Nintnedo CEO says people are using Amibos wrong.
>What you are seeing is people treating Amibos as collectors items rather than software enhancers.
Why aren't you using your amibos??? Its not fair!
It's understandable why he would say that though.
Amiibos was supposed to be the thing that put Nintendo back on the map again, but instead it's being treated as an collectors item.
Amiibos are not modernizing Nintendo as a game company, it's solidifying them as an relic.
It's because of whiners of """"locked"""" content that they won't incentivize actual Amiibo use.
So blame those people. They can't add good content to Amiibo because people will shit their diapers over it.
maybe if you had made actual merchandise of these characters that isn't Mario, Animal Crossing or Pokemon and not restrict them to mostly in Japan, then we wouldn't have treated them as collectors.
Nintendo doesn't even know how much cash they could get from actually merchandising their brands.
>Nintendo doesn't even know how much cash they could get from actually merchandising their brands.
I think they're exploring that now with the current modest Amiibo production.
Cause if they become actual physical dlc it means eventually people won't be able to get the content, hell it already happened when the UK shipment of splatoon amiibos got stolen.
sadly they are looking into the popular route instead of their other franchise.
Animal Crossing already has a lot of merchandise available that it didn't need an amiibo line up. The other games in the series need more in the lineup.
I've heard the arguments.
However you can't have it both ways.
Either you don't want Amiibo to have interesting content, so nobody loses anything or you can have interesting content that is under threat of not being accessed by certain people.
Which is it?
Too bad the consumer decides what you're selling is good for and what it isn't. If amiibo had been successful in the way he hoped, shit like MP10 and Amiibo Festival would have taken over everything.
>sadly they are looking into the popular route
Okay so like every company ever. You guys would destroy any business you ran overprinting Ashley and Advance Wars amiibos, not realizing that despite intense niche demand, these things won't sell well.
/v/ often forgets how isolated we are as a market.
But they're all extremely limited in what they can do.
Like, look at the Chibi-Robo amiibo.
It's the only Chibi-Robo figurine available right now.
It's in-game function, compatible with only one, singular game, is that it puts your character into OP-mode.
But no, it shouldn't be a collector's item, it's truly the game companion we've all sought after for so long.
>Originally a toy company
>starts selling video games
>Resells toys with built in memory card, under the name Amiibo
>people treat them as toys
So history repeats itself?
In Japan that shit is selling like crazy. Another irritating thing about /v/ (and others mind you) is that they think their corner of the world is the only market.
>But then they are mostly pointless
Holy fuck you guys are imbeciles. They will never not be pointless unless they are ALSO restricting interesting content.
I already don't buy them because I don't like collectibles.
If they were at least sold as unlimited run toys like Skylanders it'd still be okay. But your idea to add actual content to them is a worse option than being able to buy collectors stuff.
Hell, if they're gonna be limited like Splatoon at least make them higher quality.
Also what the fuck is Miitomo this is the first I've heard of it.
>Amiibos was supposed to be the thing that put Nintendo back on the map again, but instead it's being treated as an collectors item.
Citation needed. I don't believe they were ever advertised or talked about as a "putting Nintendo back on the map". They wanted very clearly to cash in on the Skylanders/DI fad and knew they're historical IPs would sell like hotcakes as figurines. Iwata made up some bullshit story about how he got a "stroke of genius" while on the subway but I find it very hard to believe it's "an original idea" and that a video game businessman somehow was not aware of the popularity of Skylander and Disney Infinity.
>Nintendo says "fuck you" to the collectors who are buying the figurines just to collect and have them. On top of that, there's another "fuck you" with limited stock and figures coming out in waves, making certain hard to get.
>They want people to buy and use them, but If they put more content in an amiibo, they are critcized for putting game content behind a physical paywall that is not always easy to attain.
>They don't want to alienate customers, but If they keep amiibo content limited, they're criticized for making the figures themselves useless beyond a neat little plastic Happy Meal collectable.
> If people only get them as collectables, Nintendo get's assmad people aren't "using them correctly" and they're right back to sqaure one.
kek. I mean I love to collect AND use the amiibos but Big N has really backed themselves into a corner on this one.
>create collector's market
>"why are people collecting these collector's items"
Honestly what did he even expect
figs of any kind were a bad idea from the start, I bet marketing knew exactly what they were doing
software enhancers my ass
But anon everyone loves Mario and nintendo exclusives are the best exclusives how could they be failing?
monster hunter needs to come back to playstation so nintendo can't die soon enough
>unlimited run toys
That is expensive and is like burning money if the demand peters out. You might not like the supply issues (which are mostly over on Amiibo, you can get all of them fairly cheap besides Gold Mario, all you need to do is import) but Nintendo made an intelligent decision in business terms around them.
>Also what the fuck is Miitomo this is the first I've heard of it.
Nothing to do with Amiibo, it's their first mobile software, doesn't seem to be a game really as much as a social app.
Promise me you won't lose your mind without learning more about it at any rate.
No, you cannot scan them in package. They have a strip that blocks it.
Based Oyabun is fucking signaling to the yakuza kobun to send a message and start shaking down scalpers. They're not seeing any profit from scalped sales, and only Nintendo gets to profit off their fans.
Cause I'm criticizing them as a product you dyslexic toddler
The nature of them puts them in a trap of they can't have too much but having too little makes them pointless. People only buy them cause they like the characters thus make actually figures or decent statues of the characters not shit quality tiny amiibos
I mean, I don't really think a mobile app is a good call since nintendo social features are so far behind steam and other consoles.
Also I agree about the limited runs. But it seems to work for Skylanders and infinity because those toys are marketed as toys and do something in a game. The amiibo don't do anything so rheyre fine as collectibles but if they did do something there'd need to be more of them available or your average non-preorder consumer would be missing content. And even then I think selling dlc figures is wrong.
Yes they are. Scalpers don't fucking magic the product, they bought it of Nintendo.
They make more profit when people are queuing up outside shops to scalp all the amiibos than when the demand is low and they're left on the shelves.
>literally little Wii fit trainer and Ness figurines for reasonable prices
>not good merchandise
Compared to literally what else? Good smile/figuarts and those companies have really limited runs of their merch and only do like one figure a month or something stupid like that. Plushies are limited to like two series. What other merchandise would you want? The alternative was going to be folders or stickers to put on your 3ds, of only Mario characters.
>nintendo social features are so far behind steam and other consoles.
This isn't related to consoles though, it's a mobile-only thing and its clearly them experimenting with it.
>The amiibo don't do anything so rheyre fine as collectibles but if they did do something there'd need to be more of them available or your average non-preorder consumer would be missing content
Well that's the dilemma.
I don't believe that people would stop complaining if the prevalence went up. If Nintendo made good content locked behind them, there would be whiners. Peruse this thread to see some of them.
Also, you might be unaware but Amiibo aren't really experiencing shortages now. Maybe in-store but if you can buy online, it's very, very, very easy to import. I live in Canada and we have a garbage dollar at the moment and I can still get basically any Amiibo except Lucina and Gold Mario for a reasonable price.
This is nothing like how it was during wave 3 and 4 when it was just nowhere. The shipping strikes resolved themselves and Nintendo upped the supply on more recent waves.
It really is a non-issue, unless you're limited to in-store purchases.
Oh wow you have to use play ground tactics and can't even address points
Are you trying to make an arguement where amiibos are super easy to get? Plus most are not worth what they cost as the quality is so low
>What other merchandise would you want?
see >>323791703 Doing so isn't even odd for nintendo, tehy have made figures and statues in the past
Scalper plz go. Do you really think a scalper buying any stores 5 stock of a rare amiibo helps Nintendo?
>Oh wow you have to use play ground tactics and can't even address points
There is nothing to address.
>I wouldn't want Amiibo under any scenario
>I want to criticize them as a product, to no end result given the previous statement
Great, feel free, you are a moron wasting your time.
Either Disney or Activision pitched the idea to Nintendo originally, IICR. Nintendo said no, the company did their own thing - now N is going on the bandwagon. Which company was it though? I forget.
It helps them as much as a normal fan buying them (a sale is a sale it doesn't make a difference who bought it) and arguably more helpful because a lack of amiibos on the shelves makes people think they're rare and drives them to collect.
Yoshi is another good example. I can see why you wouldn't count Hyrule Warriors or that game that lets you try NES demos because they don't unlock relevant content.
>cutting off the ending
could you be any more of a rabid Sonygger?
fuck nintendo those greedy jews, if they really cared about gaming or the people they'd release smash bros to steam and stop producing shitty consoles
they'd probably turn a profit for once
But I am using them, there is not much use to them tho. They're also pretty expensive for my budget too.
I would totally use my amiibos for more stuff if they added cooler features in games. Like, I loved getting the costumes in Wooley World, but other than that, what features even are there? They marketed it mostly for Sm4sh, but that's still just playing with bots
>blown the fuck out
>been out for 5 years
The PSP was the only handheld really blown the fuck out by piracy and that goes for its software sales. It's hardware sales did decent as a result.
I don't understand why Gamecube didn't sell well.
>Pretty good hardware (last time Nintendo was competitive really)
>better controller than the wtf 64 controller
>strong launch titles
>durable, unlike the PS2 which looked like you could break it by touching it
if they didn't want them treating it like collector's items then perhaps they shouldn't have fucking made artificial supply constraints and limited edition amiibos.
because no dvds
that was literally it, ps2 sold for the same reason the wii did, a paper-thin reasoning for people who dont actually play videogames to be interested in it despite that causing a social resonance that made EVERYONE want one
>is not physical DLC I swear
>is just harmless cosmetics, it don't matter
If you an amiibo-enabler, kill the fuck out yourself
Probably been said but it should be obvious that Nintendo are the ones using them wrong. Their collectability is the only reason they are popular at all, and most people would probably prefer to do without the software interaction. It's just a way to lock content behind crappy toys.
The only other features have been as game pieces in crappy virtual board games and to lock content. Splatoon locks a whole bunch of challenges and their unlockables (which include minigames) behind amiibos. Hyrule Warriors locks a weapon behind amiibo, specifically the Link or Toon Link amiibos.
>And yet skylabders and disney infinity make fuck tons of money a year
What is your complaint here?
Amiibo is the largest portion of Toys to Life Market and that's with much less time in the market and with a meager first year in terms of supply.
If your complaint is supply, you should know already that it's largely been remedied. You can import everything pretty cheap (with a couple of exceptions).
>they'd probably turn a profit for once
They are one of the most profitable video game companies that ever existed. That includes even with the Wii-U sales drought.
This might upset you, but the reality is that they've done very well over the decades. You can feel free to complain about things they do poorly though.
I fucking hate amiibos, but shouldn't nintendo be happy people want to get them all? If I was in his position I'd be happy people were obsessing over them.
My complaint is that they are not making software that utilizes their toys at all, if you're getting a toys for life game to play then Skylanders or Disney is a better buy. Nintendo's method just gives you a dick hat in multiple games and no real stellar unlock for any particular game.
Where as the competitors make almost all their character toys have lasting use and work just as well for the proceesing installments of their games. Nintendo is archaic and refuses to utilize their toys as anything but collectibles and they fucking complain over it.
I work at a gamestore and the stock of amiibos have hardly sold where as supercharhers and disney have steadily sold out.
Clearly people don't want to use them as software enhancers, they want to collect them. A smart company would capitalize on this instead of complaining about it. They should be happy people are spending money on their dumb gimmicky shit at all.
>My complaint is that they are not making software that utilizes their toys at all
Again this is held back by
>muh locked content
people. Nobody seems to whine about this with Skylanders and the like just with Nintendo.
If the argument is that supply is too low and that's the problem, it's already being fixed and will only become better moving forward so I don't really understand. Maybe people are out of touch and think you still can't find anything but Mario Bros. figures.
if they want them to be fucking software enhancers they should produce them in quantities appropriate for software enhancers instead of ones appropriate for collectibles
This is beyond fucking obvious, what's wrong with Nintendo
See people like this are why they can't make Amiibo have really beneficial things.
I'm not even saying it's bad but this attitude is why they won't make them tied to bigger things.
I thought amiibos were supposed to work both as collectors items and as game bonuses. Anyways I have scanned the few amiibos I have into their compatible games but it's not like they give anything particularly substantial...
They should do what activision and disney are doing then, "Fuck off someone else is buying them then."
What idiots who have no interest in a product think a product shouls be, should not depict the manufacturing or creation of said product.
But the way the amiibos are used in most Nintendo games are cosmetic, and have no effect in enhancing the game.
The only games that use amiibos to their fullest are the games that lock off a big chunk of content that can only be activated via amiibo.
They're saying in the most polite way possible "WHY AREN'T CONSUMERS BUYING WII U GAMES TO GO WITH THEIR AMIIBOS, THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE MADE THEM, TO SELL WII U GAMES TO CASUALS"
So Nintendo is surprised that the collectable models aren't selling games. Honestly they should just accept that nobody likes little unlockables and completely separate the figurines from the games. The games would be better served and so would the figures since they could be made a better price if the nfc tech wasn't a concern.
>no one is buying the animal crossing amiibo
>no one is buying the animal crossing amiibo festival other than to use Isabeau as a buttplug
>only moonland bought Happy Home Designer
>Lottie, the game's mascot to be worst selling amiibo of all time
>WHY U NO RIKE AMIIBO?
make a zelda line so i can get a link that doesn't look retarded.