>>323761284 >Uematsu has to be one of the most overrated composers in gaming history You know what? I agree with you on that. My ex loved everything he shit out was stand-alone god tier. Which I disagree with. But IN GAME, his tracks are amazing.
Sugiyama hasn't made a new tune in centuries, and has like, 2 tracks that rise above meh tier.
DQ games are consistent so if you like DQ games congratulations DQ is now a good series FF on the other hand has their fanbase split into like 6 different parts, and the fact that there are people who dickride XIII is just mindboggling
>>323760725 The reason FF was so popular in the west is because it's more cRPG-ish compared to Garbage Quest. Seriously. Think about the multi-classing systems in the older FF's and how every iteration of the series kept putting in different game mechanics. Hell, one of the games even had a Vancian-ish magic. AND Bethesda outright copied the level-what-you-use skill system from FF2.
>>323761192 The entire point of FF is change and that is exactly why its well loved to begin with, because it's not a fucking rehash fest while each entry still keeps ties to its origins, and especially XV is more in line with the classic FFs in terms of lore, design, setting and story than most recent FFs have been
>>323764348 so what you are saying is that you would rather have the "ambitious" awfulness FF XIII than the "safe" and "fun" DQ 9? Also polish is a lot more than just graphics, polish is gameplay, polish is story, polish is what separates a finished project from one thrown out. and so I'd say DQ is more polished than FF anyday.
>>323765001 >FF13 at least has redeemable aspects with its visuals, with its music, with its environments, with the CGI visuals, All of which will wildly be considered garbage and quickly forgotten once the decade rolls over.
>DQ9 has nothing redeemable about it Total horseshit. I've never heard anything negative about it in the recent years. All of the trashing at the beginning was the 11s getting pissy that their new game was exclusive to handheld and not on console, which was retarded because the handheld ports usually sell more anyways.
>>323762402 >The reason FF was so popular in the west is because it's more cRPG-ish compared to Garbage Quest. Seriously. Think about the multi-classing systems in the older FF There was no multi-classing in FF1, 4 or 6
>>323765324 People hated that the characters were all no character in the party, just blank slates, they hated that the story and charters were so weak and that it just felt like an MMO progression in a single player game, it got trashed in reviews in Japan and is of of the least liked DQs in the west
>>323765325 >All of which will wildly be considered garbage and quickly forgotten once the decade rolls over
We've already reached a point in visuals for CGI that only has iterative minor improvements over what we have today for game CG
> I've never heard anything negative about it in the recent years. Then you are full of shit because DQ9 is probably the most hated DQ game in existence, they trashed it because the charcters had no personalities and were all blank slates with no importance to anything, that the story had nothing to do with the party members and that it was structured like a single player MMO
Look at FF6 it is still one of the best 2D games ever made both in visuals and the game itself, meanwhile DQ looks nowhere near as good even in 2D
>>323765512 I could never get into this series because the setting makes no fucking sense. On town you're in standard fantasy stuff, then the other town has robots and neon lights and shit, suddenly you're in space, and everyone acts like it's fucking normal.
>>323765547 not him but I tried DQ9 to be my gateway into the DQ franchise and I absolutely hated it Terrible story and ending, class system was extremely grindy for a 9th installment of hte franchise. But worse of all was the incompetense of magic. As mages and sage alike are outclassed by most physical classes Well to say I completely hated it is an overstatement but I just wanted more. I loved the classical rg feeling it had, and the class/vocation system was alright and I liked that characters had a weapon experience system to go along with it But I was left wanting more
>>323765741 >This shit is so much a widespread fact the fact that you actually think this is made up just goes to show how new to DQ you even are. I-I dont need citations guys everyone knows this >>323765741 >Look at 2ch threads, look at review scores look at these chan posts that agree with me, not the ones that will defend it though fuck those guys
and I am looking at review scores and what Im seeing looks on average better than XII
>>323766846 The amount of diversity within the franchise coupled with the generally high quality is pretty impressive. The only bad games are the ones made twenty years ago and that never got localized and have been forgotten even in Japan.
>>323766950 >with the generally high quality Come on now. I love megatens, but ATLUS re-using assets and only dumb-down the quality of both visuals and gameplay with every new entry of the franchise. Persona 5 is the only breath of fresh air in a long-long time.
>>323766772 DQ 1 has a lot of strategic use of it's spells. DQ follows along closer with the D&D model though. In D&D, rather than your spells being the "Melee for wizards!" type shit they have going on of DPS, it's more about crowd control. Cause in D&D, especially basic and 1e which through the long chain of history DQ is sorta based on, you could be level 10, but a crowd of 20 goblins could still fucking ruin your day. Which is where the wizard comes in. His fireball may rarely do more than 30 damage which isn't even enough to get Fighter-senpai to notice him, but it will murder the fuck out of those goblins that were about to wreck your shit.
The only real problem with that in DQ is that XP is so forgiving nowadays that you rarely need to bother with it cause even your mages start doing some decept melee attacks later on.
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