>>323700448 >I'm upset that my main doesn't have an easy combo, because if he did, I'd be abusing it too.
Stay mad, faggot. Mario main since 64, he's finally good for once. Didn't see you or anyone complaining about him in melee or brawl. Oh, that's right. Cause he was shit in those games and you're a contrarion retard. I bet you hate yoshi now too, but loved him in melee when amsa played him.
>>323700448 I think you mean >le grab to dthrow to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Utilt to Mario takes no skill
its definitely better than Melee in overall balance, but not enough to celebrate over. you can probably add sonic/ryu/mario/pikachu to that list too, but this game still has a lot of garbage characters
>>323705672 Average. Good at being fucking annoying with lasers and beyblades and has OK kill options, but suffers from his large size coupled with his weight. He's combo food the moment you let someone in. Not quite as bad a someone like Bowser, obviously.
>>323706394 >he has enough reward to be a threat unlike before. Mewtwo is has to work hard for that reward, with the slow moves that he has. I would understand if his Smash attack had early killing power, for coming out so slow, but it doesn't.
>>323708290 He's easy to play as, abuse his fair and nair, know when to land a sweetspot bair (dodging past someone and then using it can be great), up air is great too, but don't ever use dair.
Don't spam PK fire either, just use it when you KNOW it will land. PK flash should be used sparingly but is good for pressuring recovering people. Remember to turn around because a PK flash will go further behind you.
Down smash and up smash probably won't ever land you a kill but are generally good damage moves, they are safe and fast.
>>323708771 cool that's most of what i picked up just playing as him for 15 years so it's probably a matter of practicing sweet spots and stuff. plus not trying to get cute with the electrified human projectile
>>323709323 >plus not trying to get cute with the electrified human projectile It's actually a great kill move but you usually have to be clever with it. I like to connect the thunder to me at the same time as my opponent tries to punish me for PK thunder-ing because Ness turns into a giant hitbox and kills extremely fucking early. So satisfying.
Also dair has just too much of a slow startup to ever be useful, you can get lucky and land a spike with it but that's rare. You usually just get punished for trying. There's usually better alternatives, like even just fast-falling and using nair is better.
>>323710037 My number one main is Lucas for his delicious aerials coupled with very low landing lag and PK thunder 2 set-ups, he has some decent combo potential
Number 2 is Samus for being fun to play as, but I have to avoid several of her moves sadly. She actually has a bunch of semi-guaranteed combos that are pretty good, especially if playing on a stage with platforms.
>Smash 4 >They turned Sheik into a boring version of her Melee self >Captain Falcon is now Dash Grab and Up Air: The Character >Mario is Up Tilts: The Character >Everyone has at least one auto-combo that is boring as fuck >They gave Bowser an auto combo that kills >DK has the same one, auto-combo that kills >Diddy had one too before patches >A fuckton of others still have them but they don't kill >Every character plays exactly the same
THIS was Sakurai's idea of bringing "combos" back. How fucking out of touch is he? The game is fucking boring because of this. No room for improvising combos, you HAVE to follow the flowchart because the lack of hitstun won't let you do anything else.
Fuck this game. I'm glad I played it a lot on a friend's Wii U, because I wanted to get one just for Smash 4 but fuck that. Not worth it at all. Melee and 64 are still way better and more fun. Even the fucking items are better.
>>323700146 >Using Sheik >Using Captain Falcon (worse kind of player) >Using Marth >Using Mario (spammy) >Zelda (warping the entire time because it's totally not broken) >Shield Grabbing over and over
These are the people who think they are good at the game and would be mocked by any other figthing game community with techniques like these. But move spamming and grab spamming are ok so long as everyone shouts stupid memes phrases like Salty and git gud to make them sound like they're good This fanbase has fallen and Its almost become shameful to enjoy the series as a whole now.
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