So I just built a computer and chose a gtx 980 ti for my gpu because all over the internet everyone was saying that it's the most powerful card you can get, it's overkill for 1080, you'll be able to run everything 60fps no problem. Even with a 60fps cap, I'm still getting frame drops in almost every game I play. In games like far cry 3 and blood dragon, it's only mildly distracting, but in fallout 4 there are areas outside that drag me down to under 40fps even on low settings.
What are my best options here? I switched from console to PC so I would have more solid, consistent, and fluid performance but so far it seems my hardware isn't what I expected. My temperature never goes higher than 65 c and my cpu is an i7 4790k. I've been thinking about saving up for another gtx 980 ti and doing sli but I thought I'd ask opinions first. Could my problem be cpu or software settings related? Thanks in advance
I have a 970 and Fallout 4 runs like shit. Honestly it's just a very poorly optimized game. I'll get 60-75 fps with high/ultra settings in some areas and it will dive down to like 35-40 in others.
The only spot it drops below 50 is looking down from the top of trinity tower. Which doesn't really hurt the game experience, but I have non-debilitating OCD about this shit. I ended up turning a few settings down and capping my frame rate at 40, it's not bad but obviously I want the perfect ultra 60 experience
FC3 should have no issues getting 1080/60fps unless maybe you've cranked the AA way up or something similar. I guess the other possiblity, if it's just random frame dropping, might be due to loading assets. Are you running games from a HDD or SSD?
Seems like a waste to use a 1080p/60Hz screen with a 980Ti. You should get a better screen before another GPU. I'm rolling with a 1440p/144Hz screen along my 980Ti and couldn't be happier.
An SSD on which my OS is also stored. Blood dragon is worse, at times it seems like random short frame drops but it also happens when the action gets really hot or when there seems to be a lot of geometry in my FOV, usually just 59 for a second or less but it's distracting.
1080 is plenty for me. My first concern is graphical integrity and consistent frame rates. I specifically bought it because everyone told me it was overkill and more than I would need.
That does sound very odd. It isn't a problem of power, since PCs with like 1/4 of the power of yours can max out FC3 without a sweat.
Are you running supersampling by any chance? That's basically running the game at a higher resolution, but displaying it at 1080p, and that can take a real hit on performance. I don't know if FC3 has it, though, it should be under the anti-aliasing settings.
Sounds like your computer's on power saver or your cpu is underclocking itself due to heat issues. Did you properly install thermal paste/cooler? Check your cpu temps using an OSD so you can see exactly what it looks like when you dip in frames.
>and put on plenty of thermal paste
You don't put on plenty of thermal paste, you put on a very slim film and make sure it spreads everywhere. Too much will have the opposite effect and not conduct heat properly
Nah but it'll go up to 100 in some titles. Also the screen got g-sync so it's a smoother experience in general.
I play a lot of CS:GO besides heavier games, so that game is where the 144Hz come most into play for me
Honestly, your mrig should even run those games with supersampling at 60 fps, I doubt that's the problem. But it's something to look into. First check out your thermal paste problem, though.
so glad i didn't fall for the nvidia meme
Fallout 4 is horribly optimized. It's not your card (probably)
Post your speccy your PSU and your cooling setup.
My initial thought is: shit PSU, stock clock on CPU. Overheating the card. Overheating the CPU. Shit DDR3 RAM. Bad motherboard. Bad drivers.
I have a 780ti and I run the games you mentioned at 1080/60fps no problem.
Getting another 980 won't fix it, It's not the card bottlenecking you.
If it is, your card is broken and you need to RMA it.
Fallout 4 is just really demanding/badly optimized. There's not much you can do. Multiple GPUs maybe? I don't know.
I think the most demanding settings are volumetric lighting (god rays). You could also try the dynamic shadows mod that reduces shadow draw distance when your frame rate drops, and brings it back up when your frame rate increases
>repeating corporate shilling
How about you look at game performance benchmarks and form an opinion based on that instead of the marketers on 4chan? The 390 costs the same and performs better
>I applied slightly more than the recommended amount from the video I was watching
And how much was that? I've seen people put an assload of the paste and even spread it around which is way unnecessary. You could put just a pea sized drip on the CPU and it spreads all around with the pressure from the cooler and it's plenty enough.
780ti/970/probably lower too has the grunt to handle godrays. They really aren't that bigger hit. It's the shadows and the fact that the city areas have no fucking occlusion panes so it just renders fucking everything meaning that in those intensive areas, your going to be making 15k+ drawcalls and that's just lunacy. Read ENBoris's blog and he explains it all.
Also you can just run a program like MSI afterburner and turn on all the on screen displays in game and run a game to see whats hitting 100% or whatever
Actually yeah i have a rig that can do everything fine but blood dragon and fallout 4 are choppy sometimes, i never figured out the deal, its probably bad optimization, maybe someones found a fix though
sometimes games will just happen to run like shit and i just figure it out with a quick google search, it kinda sucks but its pretty easy, but yeah those ones are kinda fucked i cant get them to run smooth at all which is why i never really played them yet. Well i played blood dragon but that was back when i had a shittier card and couldnt get flawless FPS in almost anything
I really loved that game i wanna figure that out now damn
>tfw I did this the first time I built my rig
Took me a good couple of hours to figure out that it wasn't a driver issues and it was just me being retarded
>I've actually never checked my cpu temperature but my gpu is never over 65 degrees c
are you fucking joking?
You built a PC. Installed a new cooling system. And did not check the cooler was working? Since everything is working it's unlikely that you burnt out your CPU, but you could have severely degraded the performance if you've been running crazy hot.
Seriously, you didn't ever check?
I repeat; wew lad.
You should always keep your temp information up when running a new setup. At least for the first few times you put it under stress.
>I'm not a fucking dumbass
Also, having an 800W PSU doesn't mean shit if your PC needs 801W.
In addition all PSU's are not created equal. What brand is it? What model? Some PSUs have good wattage but don't give enough amperes where needed (usually @12V) or it's very 'dirty' power and can cause exactly the problems you say.
Well, did you just install the drivers from the dvd that came with the card, or did you go to the nvidia website and downloaded them from there? If it's the latter then you're in the clear.
with r9 nano for 499- which is basically fury x if it doesn't throttle and it doesn't in atx cases
it is a sweet deal right now
if you can watercool it cheaply it is amazing deal
>"HAHA console peasant I enjoy video games on my superior pc masterrace throne"
>shit ported shitgame runs like shit with $1000 hardware
wow what an investment, surely paid off
instead of 30fps muddy textures you get 60(but actually ~45)fps with 4k textures modded horseshit!
>Buying a 980 when the next generation of GPUs are coming out in less than a year.
Since /g/ is leaking might as well ask:
I'm getting a work laptop and the Thinkpad P50 seems like my best option; durable, TP keyboard and great specs.
Only thing is that the GC is a Quadro m600m, is it gonna cause problems like crashes?
I don't mind being unoptimised, I've been using a mobility Raedon HD 4650 for 7+ years and it's served me well.
>he didn't watch nvidia conference
>he doesn't know that it takes 4 pascal chips to reach x6 performance of one titan x
>he can't do the math
>he didn't see the monster cooling system for a car
Fallout 4 is one of the most shit optimized games ever. Its really shit. So if you have this problem in Fallout 4 i would not worry. But try something else or better download Heaven Benchmark (its free) and run it. You should get 60 solid.
>is there anything the 970 does better or...?
5% more fps in some games at 1080p with nvidia features enabled
1440p it is 10-15% worse
I have one for 3 months now, no issues except that one thing with fo4 compass but they fixed it in 3 days for 300 series
>buying a 980ti when Pascal is right around the corner
you done fucked up OP
>I guess it really does seem like a CPU issue.
No, what's your RAM?
Fo4 is very ram dependent for no good reason.
do you run everything in sli? fps drops is actually stutter that can't be fixed
never go sli/cf
running AMD everything and I've yet to have any major issue beyond having to re DL a driver
>Gigabyte 980 Ti was $539.99 at Newegg earlier but I missed out
You can be very sure it wont come out in sufficient numbers. There is just way too many idiots in the world blowing they $ the moment new cards get released.
Hell 970 tier cards are getting more expensive because nVidia can get away with saying demand is too "high".
Next several years will see really stupid pricing in GPU market.
I'll just borrow this thread and ask a question:
I currently have a gtx980. Would it be worth to invest in a G-synd 1440p 144hz screen? I know the card wont handle high res and fps at ultra, or probably even high, which leads me to my second question:
Would a higher FPS and resolution be more desirable over graphics quality? What would look and feel best? Should I just go for 1440p/60hz?
No one can answer that FOR you. I, personally, will take a lower resolution/quality over a lower framerate. If the game is interesting and exciting then it doesn't matter what it looks like too much, but that's just me.
Show me one credible source where its "kicking the shit" out of it. They are pretty much equal performance cards where 970 has advantage in 1080p and 390 in 1440p.
In both cases that advantage is not even 10% while 970 requires much less power and is way quieter which is why it ultimately won the test in the link I posted.
So my system is fairly old (maybe 5-6 years or so) and I upgraded to a not too great card but I got it for a good deal. I don't care to play new triple-A games too much but I've been playing the Witcher 3 and fuck if I can get through a city without freaking the fuck out with stuttering for a while. Would upgrading my ram fix this and if so, what kind should I get? I'm going to upgrade my entire setup in a year or so but I just want something that can keep handling things at the moment.
As a dude who rebuilt his PC twice, all I need from you is.
Motherboard Chipset, from like this year
Ram DDR# & Frequency
Data Storage hard drive.
Everything that is now two years old is considered outdated as a product is no longer store sold. Which means whatever cost the same two years ago is now the same price to performance for the new series.
The only thing that has truly gotten better is Data Storage devices with bigger bandwidth.
Motherboards to matching CPU chipsets are important.
One X99 chipset has a $1k 8 core 3.0GHz but most motherboards for that set are still DDR3 Ram, while new Z170 gaming ones use $350 4 core 4.0(4.2)GHz DDR4. I guess because AMD has been dwarfed quite a bit now, basically it has become X99 vs Z170.
Your card is still good for another 4 years or more as it is. However your Motherboard chipset is already considered outdated in stores this year.
K /v/ what should I upgrade first? Or just save for Rift/Vive?
It's not like it's relevant anyway, it's cold as balls in here.
im gonna be switching countries next month so i wont have any pc, and my old one was super shit, therefore i want to build a good pc, something around 1k euros. It seems that everyone is saying to wait for new tier gpu and cpus even, but what if i need PC in next month or so? Should i build super cheap and wait for new shit ?
Nah. I'd just save up your money for the next generation of Intel processors to come out, providing AMD decides to stop being retarded and release a new wave of CPUs that are not using 4 year old technology.
Your bigger issue is there's no big sale event, generally it's a good idea to buy new parts when it's something like black friday where lots of parts have big discounts.
Having some ice in your stomach and staying patient for a good deal always worked out for me, but then you are in a tricky position where you want it now. I would try to get around it by maybe borrowing a computer from a friend or at least borrowing parts, buying the chassis (that won't change anyways so might as well buy now) and assemble a kinda shitty computer with thrown together parts and then build a proper rig later on
New parts coming later this year will push down prices of current mid/high tier parts as well, so even if you don't buy the new hot shit, you'll get more for your money, that's what I like. My current gpu, 6870 1gb, was one I bought when it was one of the best mid tier gpu deals, and it still serves me well to this day, though its limitations are becoming more and more apparent so I need to upgrade later this year.
>theres always that one pascal autist shill in a video card thread
You don't need a disk drive anymore really.
I remember back in like 200...7?8? When I built a rig and I came to the realization I didn't need to get a diskette drive anymore because everything was on cd. Now it's the dvd drive's time to take the path of the dinosaurs.
I use my computer's dvd drive maybe once in two years. So I could definitely do without.