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What was his problem?

seriously
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Thieves kidnapping the princess.
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Only good character in a shit game

Same thing with Barret
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No socks for his cold iron shoes.
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rare steiners

get them while they're hot
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>>323641808
his shoes always looked like basketball shoes to me
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>he's a "knight" of pluto
>in alexandria
>he takes his "job" VERY seriously
>he does it for free
>he spergs out over protecting the princess even the queen doesn't give a fuck about because that's the only responsibility he's ever been trusted with in his life
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>>323641683
>>>/out/
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>>323643115
scoundrel spotted
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>>323641469
Steiner a best.
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Having sworn my life to fealty, must I spend the rest of it solely in servitude?

Or some shit like that. Dude was a good guy but felt conflicted with how Brahne was insane and acting. This came to a head in game when he had to basically go against orders, and his duty as a knight, to try and protect Garnet from her own mother.
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Literally Zenigata.
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>>323642086
Do these exist for the other characters? I'd kill for a freya.
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He was a retard appointed over the other retards in the male portion of the army.

He also has retard strength though so if you use him in your party, you are playing on "even easier" mode.

If you use him AND vivi, then you basically haven't even played FF9, the battles were already won before they started so what's the point?
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Best character in the game imo followed by Vivi
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He is loyal to a fault and so is Beatrix.

You see when a bumbling baffoon is loyal to a queen on the warpath he ends up accidentally helping stop her. When a deadly skilled general is loyal to said queen genocide happens.

It's like pottery.
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Sleeping in full metal armour.
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>>323643298
I cant find a Freya at all

>>323643331
He beat Beatrix in a fight from what I remember so he must have some skill or luck or something to put him above others
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Well the thieve scum mostly.
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>>323643764
She was only in literally like three seconds of cgi scenes so it's not surprising. It'd be glorious to see some clear renders of her beautiful face though.
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>>323641469

Being the best character in his game, he should be in Dissidia.
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Took his job VERY seriously.
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>Embodiment of the steadfast unquestionably loyal knight
>Even though The Knights of Pluto are treated like shit
>Fights with the fact that the Queen to whom he swore fealty is a conniving bitch who would murder her own daughter and plunge the continent into chaos
>Convinces his rival and eventual lover who is grappling with the same issues
>Plants Garnet on the throne and happily serves her with his now lover.
>City and palace get destroyed, lover thought to have fallen in battle

Most of the characters in 9 were actually well done, but a good chunk just got shit on, like Freya. Hell, Amarant basically has nothing except a tiny little bit about friendship with Zidane.
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he had autism
this was a very progressive game
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he was xenophobic
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Is he a conehead? Like how is that type of armorhat or whatever even advantageous in the slightest?
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He kept calling Vivi "Master"
sounds like he was really into some kinky stuff
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>>323644075
It's kind of lame how Freyas dillemma was being forgotten and the game very well did forget about her later on. I hope we see supporting characters from varying FF's in that new FF 3DS game other then main guys. Seeing Steiner and shit would be cool.
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>>323644136

It's shaped like a wizard hat, so that his magic sword attacks are stronger
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>>323644304
Master is the proper term for a young person.
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>>323644306
Developers eventually got sick of the furry shit. That's why you don't really see them as much in future FF releases.

Fuck furries, humans forever.
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>>323644604
FFIX was the most anthropomorphic-oriented FF, right? I remember laughing at a literal hippo named Hippaul.
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>>323641469
He was a terrible flat character trapped in a non-functional world where the only way to suspend disbelief high enough to continue was to believe "but its FF so it's ok".

Easily the worst FF game ever. It licks FFXIII's taint and that game was terrible too.
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>>323644604
He defends the princess and do his job very seriously


FOR FREE
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What was xir problem?
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>>323644782
Also, main character was a monkey-tailed prat.
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>>323644825
>for free

he gets front row seats to sick ass plays tho
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the game would have been way better if zidane/steiner/garnet/vivi were the only party characters. everyone else except amrant was terrible and amrant only has 5 lines in the entire game
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He's the captain of an order of knights that most people think are a big fucking joke... including people in that order. He's as stiff and rigid and unthinking as his armor until sometime after coming into contact with Zidane.

However, unlike most of the rest of his order he isn't a goddamn joke, nor is he as stiff, inflexible or generally incompitent as he's made out to be. The magic sword shit with vivi? That was Steiner's idea. He's also one of the special few individuals in the FF9 Universe capable of entering the Trance state, which automatically makes him exceptional.

As others have said, he ends up coming into conflict with his queen because he's there to protect garnet. He beats beatrix in a fight (and also causes her to fall in love with him) and while all sorts of shit is going on in the battle for alexandria, he protects the shit out of the people.

Also he along with beatrix (whose theme the song pulls from heavily) has one of the best fucking battle themes in all of final fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtXvIPOxsc

PROTECTING MY DEVOTION MOTHERFUCKERS.
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My one wish for the IX remaster on Steam and mobile is to have the battles sped up and shorten the wait in their "Ready to do something" pose.

In VII and VIII you select a command and it will be done instantly assuming the enemy or another party member isn't doing something. You select a command in IX and the game takes forever to execute your action.

Fuck that shit and fuck the trance mechanic too. Hate wasting it on trash enemies when a boss is coming up.
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>>323644136
He's already wearing a chainmail coif. The trance version has a grille/mask that goes over the rest of his face.
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>>323641469
he couldn't take it easy and constantly became the butt of his own jokes.

He followed orders instead of thinking for himself.
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>>323644958
Entire game was shit. Most of the party members were useless as fuck and added absolutely nothing to the party or plot. Steiner was completely irrelevant. You could have cut him from the game entirely and lost nothing. Zidane was annoying as hell. Vivi at least had a lil development, but it was a very short side-arc. Garnet, eh whatever. She wasn't great but she served a purpose in the story. Freya was entirely underdev- oh we've already moved past her. Look! A thing that eats things and neither says anything useful or is useful in combat! And now we have Amrant who never says anything and is just another exchangeable bruiser. Let's just add a 2nd summoner that's just painful to look at so the players think they have options in gameplay type.
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>>323645171

Why the fuck did they even make the game that way anyway? Whose idea was it to slow everything to a fucking crawl?
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Gosh, /v/. you sure know a lot...
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>>323645336
The game ran at 15fps too
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>>323643331
>Stop playing the single player rpg different from how I'd play it REEEEEEE.
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>Eiko's love letter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayST6qnB3Uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLG6Tq-mCiQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_iqiPErEDg

Loved this part but damn was it stupid. Setting monsters on your own town as a game?
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>>323645551
Yea. Or how about establishing a postal network comprised entirely of terrified and defenseless agoraphobic moogles?

And did they ever even try to explain why it was always night in that one town? Or why someone was burying treasure chests full of hawaiian tshirts?
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>>323641469
His final weapon is BALLS hard to get.

Can any of you fuckers say you legitimately got it without re-cycling the clock?

Seriously, he may not even have one with a 12 hour time limit.
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>>323645678
Moogles are tough little shits actually
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>>323643764
Steiner can trance. Beatrix cant.

Entering trance state is a very rare and special thing that only a few people in ff9 can do. Beatrix literally lacks the emotional capacity to manage it.
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>>323645551
Running of the Bulls
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>>323644304
Vivi was one of the few people in the setting capable of actually wielding magic.

Addressing him by the title of "Master" conveys respect over the fact that he is proficient at his craft.
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>>323645835
Prior to 7 or 8 or 9, maybe, but in 9? Seriously? They were incapable of even walking down the street without fleeing in terror. Their entire job was to be an active postal service and they didn't even keep contact with eachother without you doing it for them.
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>>323645963
What about Stiltzken? He basically followed the party around the world.
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>>323645963
their job was implied to be much simpler but the war complicated things and Mognet was broken thanks to a certain moogle.

Also Stiltzken don't give no fucks.
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>>323643298
>>323643914
Sadly, this is all you'll ever find regarding "official" art for her face
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>>323646157
>Mognet was broken thanks to a certain moogle

At least his fur had a nice sheen.
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>>323645951
They're down a set path, I believe, but the monsters in FF are literally infesting the entire town.

>>323645963
they're pretty good savepoints though, they can chill in the most dangerous of places
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>>323644075

>City and palace get destroyed, lover thought to have fallen in battle

Wait when does this happens?
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>>323646054
>>323646157
So, they're hearty and badass so long as they creep in the shadows immediately behind a warparty?
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He was torn between doing the right thing and loyalty to his monarch.
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>>323646313
the moogles are a neutral party. it's still dangerous for them to be wandering about in the open. all the moogles are cowards and so they are often in hiding.

stiltzken is the only exception. he is the bravest moogle of them all.
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They literally bought one of those 25 cent balls and said to themselves "damn, this would make a good boss"

what the shit was this
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>>323646563
forgot pic
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>>323646302

When Garland destroys Alexandria with the Invincible.
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>>323644889

Quina was very simple-minded, only wanting to eat tasty food
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>hated him at first
>loved him by the later parts of the game
steiner is a fucking bro
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>>323646302
Beginning of Disc 3 when Kuja attacks Alexandria with Bahamut and they summon Alexander.

And then Garland destroys it with the Invincible.
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>>323645336
>>323645454

PS1 couldn't handle running well AND rendering all that stuff at once.
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>>323646625
That's a lot of super bosses.
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>>323643345
good taste
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>>323646302
Yeah. But Beatrix dying would imply that there's justice or karma in that world.
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>>323645678
>And did they ever even try to explain why it was always night in that one town?

It's actually not ALWAYS night. An NPC says that because of where it rests in the Mist continent, daylight is just really short there.
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>>323645750

The Excalibur 2 is BARELY any better than his second-best weapon, it just has a skill the other doesn't. It's a weapon to brag over.
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>>323647186
Is the skill neat?
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>>323645848
>Beatrix literally lacks the emotional capacity to manage it.

No, it's that she's too in control of her emotions. Trance is a burst of uncontrolled emotion, usually an explosion of anger.
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>>323647236

It's stock break. Which my mistake, you can get from Ultima Sword.
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>>323641469
He suffers from best character syndrome
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>>323647257
Beatrix's two biggest emotions are 'melancholy' and 'boredom'.
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>>323644889
It's problem is that it is a fucking freak with a tongue that can rival Yoshi's.
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>>323647404
Isn't that the move beatrix uses to bullshit your party? How is it when you get it? I know you get garbage fraud beatrix, but it's been a minute and i forget.
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>>323647558
I'm more interested in her other two big things
amirite
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>every decent character was sidelined
What made them do this?
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>get Thunder Slash
>get excited to use it
>it literally never hits because the move is glitched
>mfw

>>323647630
>Isn't that the move beatrix uses to bullshit your party?

Yes but Climhazzard is better. Stock Break does 1.5x damage to all enemies, Climhazzard does 2x
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>>323647558
more like subhuman monster and schoolgirl-in-love.
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>>323647670
Welcome to final fantasy
Where the fuccbois and retarded storyline is all that matters
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>>323647670
I always thought it was some kind of combination of lack of time, budget, or cd space.

Would have been nice to see fucking something with the burmecians. any little sidequest. or like a tiny area where the survivors gathered.
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>FF9 will never be an unfinished game where half the main cast has their story dropped or just straight up completely missing
fug
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>>323647887
>>323647891

Blame Spirits Within, it's where the fucking money for this game went
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>>323647713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACFYaHyWrMQ

ff9 had awesome character themes, and if this doesn't sound 'melancholy' I'm afraid you don't know what it sounds like...

Like listen to Kuja's actual theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2spjqRmQGRA It's complex and has a lot going on, much like kuja.

Or the games trademark 'sad' song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2MDIGredqM
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>>323646291
You never saw Mexico's version of running of the cows?
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>>323648051

You mean bulls?
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>>323647942
Ya know if they didnt give it the title Final Fantasy you would all like it
Its actually a good movie
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Literally Zenigata literally Javert
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>>323648132
It's an average movie, maybe slightly above at best.

It had a HUGE amount of money dropped into it that it failed to recoup.
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>>323648132
>Ya know if they didnt give it the title Final Fantasy you would all like it

It wasn't going to be one. It was going to be a gaiden game that was a tribute to the series that got bumped up to a main title.

>Its actually a good movie

Oh, you mean SW.

Eh, it's ok. I mean there's nothing terrible about it, and the visuals STILL hold up to this day, but it's just kinda bland.
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>>323647705
How do they fix it in PAL releases but not in the PSN release?
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Since i played FFIX for the first time i've hated that dude always sticking his face on Yitan ass.
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>>323648221
>>323648237
Yeah its nothing amazing but its not bad by any means
I just hate it when FF fags shit on it because theres no retarded anime story about crystals or blonde fagboys in belly shirts
Its a decent movie with an all star cast of great actors, and the visuals are fucking insane for the time
Blew me away as a kid, before I even knew what FF was
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>>323648336

because the PSN release is literally just the US version being emulated
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>>323648401
ooh soft

>tfw garnets ass texture is edited out
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>>323648660

It's already been shown in the preview video
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>>323645332
>Look! A thing that eats things and neither says anything useful or is useful in combat!

>Reasonably high strength
>BLUE MAGIC
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>all the anons saying Steiner is best character

So much good taste in this thread.
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>>323648029
What are you on about?

>>323648132
It was fine. It was still a terrible idea and a massive waste of money.

Most people shit on it because it did massive damage to square and basically killed sakaguchi's standing in the company. All he got to do afterwards was make a shitty half-assed throwback that didn't deserve a number.
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>>323649023
Rusty is based
And he has good taste in chicks
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>>323645332
>>323648770
Quina was fucking awesome.

Wasn't super relevent to the plot of the games, and wasn't super straightforward to use, but had AMAZING utility, some great support abilities and one of the more powerful skillsets in the game. Yeah sure her trance was 'awful' but she still did 1.5x more damage with attack commands (and forks were fucking vicious) like every other character except steiner (who did like, 2x+ damage with attack command in trance).

>>323649023
I genuinely enjoyed most of FF9's cast aside from Eiko. I hated that little cunt. Even amarant was cool because he actually provided a means of restoring MP to casters, which was somewhat rare.
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>>323646641
I totally forgot that a guy named like the first boss of FF 1 appeared in 9.
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>>323649093
Sad but true, its a damn shame
FF died with Sakaguchi leaving
FF9 will always be the true final game in my opinion
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>>323649130
Quina has blue magic and that shit is too awesome not to use
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>>323649023

How could anyone hate Buzz Lightyear?
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RALLY HO PYNTIE HETS!
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>>323649305
And one of the better methods of learning blue magic too, instead of "Hey, hope you don't get wrecked by this enemy casting a bullshit spell on you in extremely specific conditions".

It was "get an enemy low on hp, eat it. If you can learn something new from it, you will. If you cant you now know that enemy has no special ability to offer you".
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>>323649130
You cant deny that Eiko's village is comfy as fuck
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>>323649180
He's the only cool villain in ix
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>>323649575
There's few places I'd actually want to live in ff9.

>Burmecia
Always raining, would end up killing myself cause of depression
>Whirlwind Tree
Might be okay, but probably not, too much sand, no travel options.
>Lindblum
Too. Fucking. Big. Too much noise and travel involved just to do regular things.
>Treno
Niggers and Thieves.
>Conde Peite
Fuck dwarves
>Various podunk nowheres like madain sari and a few of the villages you travel to.
No thank you.

Maybe alexandria or some of the various gates around lindblum would be okay but I'd like to avoid mist monster attacks.
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>>323649130

>her
>not s/he
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>>323649905
Also as an upside to alexandria I could always ogle the guards. Who are apparently slutty as fuck.
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>>323650002

Best be joking
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>>323649905
Burmecia would be coolest place to live. Comfy, lazy, rainy days every day. And that's ignoring the fact that I found the burmecians sexy as hell. Cleyra would be fine. you know, for the view.

Lindblum might be neat. I guess.

>Treno
Niggers and Thieves.

Are there even any black people in ff9?
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>>323649789
How possible she gave birth to a cute girl like Garnet?
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>>323650093
That's actually what it says in the game.

>>323650119
She didn't
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>>323650119
She didn't. Garnets mother fled madain sari via boat when Garland attacked.

She gave birth to a daughter that looked like garnet, but died of illness (IIRC).
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>>323650269

Considering how Brahne turned out, one has to wonder if the original Garnet would have turned out like that or not
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>>323650093

They say s/he in the game because no one is sure what gender Quina is
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>>323650327
Brahne was a glutton though.
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>>323649905
What about Village Dali you raging faggot
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>>323650415
I think I read that she didn't always look like that. And she let herself go after her husband died. But its late and my mind might be making that up.
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Problem? He is one of the baddest motherfuckers in FF history. He quickly overtakes Beatrix's power level mid game and once he gets her sword arts, he makes her look like dog shit.
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>>323650515

Hard to tell what changed, though. FF9 had something of a technicolor cast, god knows if her skin was always blue or if she was meant to look like Ma Beagle's third cousin
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>>323643331
>garnet, eiko, quina party
Disgusting.
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>>323650579
>*shink* *shink* *shink* *shink* *shink* *shink* *shink* *shink*

The last sound you ever hear
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>>323650747
Its all about that Steiner Vivi and Freya m8
Also lets talk about Vivi
Why is he so cute
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>>323650965
Mah snigga

>Zidane's super saiyan
>Just take a slice you dbl black
>basic attack power, spellsword, and eventually beatrix' bullshit
>Support skills, attacks, decent regular attack, sexy rat body, and devotion to lover
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>>323650965
You rely on potions and Rei's Wind to keep your health up?
Interesting. I never run anything without Eiko/Garnet.
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>>323647942
final fantasy 8, 9 and xenogears were all cucked because of this piece of shit movie.
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>>323648132
if it didn't ruin great games maybe I would
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>>323647670
Translation when?
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>>323651340
Depends
You can swap out Freya for Garnet if you want a healslut
I dont like the healers in ff9 because thats about all they're good at, summons cost way too much mp to be consistently useful
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>>323649130
I think Steiner's Trance actually has him do THREE times damage. Probably to make up for it not doing anything else.
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>>323649093
"shitty half-assed throwback that didn't deserve a number"
???
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>>323649180

theres a garland in every FF, same with Cid and a few other names, its a recurring thing, even if its just in passing its there
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>>323643764
>Steiner beat Beatrix in a fight

Source? I'd love to believe this since Beatrix is all "it takes 4 of you to take me on twice? Lol" Mary Sue type.
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>>323644958
Holy shit there are some stupid people in /v/.

>Please, lessen the content in my game
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>>323651881
I dont recall a garland for most of them. can you mention some examples?

>>323651895
It was mentioned in an ultimania. he beat her well before the game. it was likely luck.
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>>323641469

Steiner had no problems. It was the fact that everything he knew and was taught crumbled before him but by staying with Garnet he was able to help build the world back into the way he thought it should be.

He was an angry manlet tho.
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>>323651881
Can't remember other Garlands besides 1 and 9.
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>>323651897
You're retarded.

Most of the cast in IX brought very little to the plot, they were more or less just there for the ride and occasionally had a quip or two. It's like every party member was Kimahri
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>>323641469
he was a stereotype
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>>323652015

theres an airship in XII called garland

like i said even if its not a character the names will be in there somewhere in passing, even in a small line of text
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>>323652180
Consider there isn't Freya, Eiko, Amarant or Quina in the game, the battle gameplay would've had half the content and just listening to the same four initial characters' rambling would've gotten really fucking monotonous in the second disc already. You have to be fucking idiot. Why the fuck would you have wanted that?
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>>323651527
>tfw bogan translation guys shutdown before I could pay them to translate it
FUCK
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>>323652260
The only Garlands I'm aware of are the ones in FF1, 9, the airship in 12 and Cid nan Garlond in FF14.
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>>323651578
I was more asking how you handle the lack of dedicated healing. Did you spam Rei's Wind and keep someone ready on potion duty, do you focus on damage reduction abilities, or do you just nuke them down as quickly as possible?
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>>323652973
Reis wind & potions if low
Cure spells are overrated, use those 7 million Hi Potions you've been hoarding
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>best character
>not Amarant
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>>323652426
The irony is that the characters you listed are uselsss anyways compared to the core cast. Half the content doesn't matter when the other half is shit. Remove the shit part and improve the rest.
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>>323650119
>Thought Garnet must've been adopted
>I was right
>Turns out Brahne's real daughter looked like Garnet so the adopted beauty theory didn't matter

Brahne's husband must've been a real handsome bloke. That's all there is to it.
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>>323654271
Wew lad
Amarant is fucking worst
You literally couldnt pick a worse character
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>>323654904
>You literally couldnt pick a worse character

Quina exists.
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>Gilgamesh started out his adventure in FF9
>His beginning was that of a lowly purse snatcher and a D-rate Treasure hunter
>Because of Zidane, he aspires to be the best Treasure Hunter
>On his travels he found another way to go to other worlds beside Shimmering Isles
>His multiple forms throughout the FF series was just a side effect of multiverse jumping
>He became what he is now because of Zidane
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>>323655232

>you will never lick Garnet's butt
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That trumpet penguin guy in Alexandria should have been a party member.
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>>323649905
Daguerro, you shit. Chill in a library, meet all kinds of interesting people. Play cards with travellers. Look outside and watch the fuckin' dragons flying by.
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>>323655232
Quina is infinitley better than edgy mcdreadlocks
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>>323655834
>>you will never lick Garnet's butt
>>Why even live?
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>>323658824
>you will never suffocate in Garnet's sweaty ass crack

just pull the plug
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