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>Nintendo may be doing too little, too late, as most major developers seem to have all but forgotten about the Wii U, with many major titles being ignored for the console. Watch Dogs, was the last major triple-A release by Ubisoft on the Wii U for example. With all these daunting prospects, the future of the Wii U especially as a true competitor seem bleak, and is likely to be destined to become the neglected child of the console family.

Is it true /v/? Is the Wii U dead in 2015? How can they even compete?

http://www.bidnessetc.com/60879-can-the-wii-u-compete-in-2016/
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>>323551830
Nothing is competing with Wii U. People buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. People buy PS4's and XBO's not for Sony or Microsoft's games but for third party games.
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>>323551967


Anon you have to realize that the Wii U is a video game console. PS4 and XB1 are consoles. They compete.
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>>323551830
Just look at what they announced for the system last year. Does that look like Nintendo still had faith in the system?

>>323551967
It's a red ocean device just like the others. It is competing, albeit poorly.
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>>323551830
SHUT.
UP.
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>>323552048
Does a Prius compete with a Ferrari because they're both cars too? Don't be ridiculous, it's a completely different product for a different audience.
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>>323551830
There are way better examples of snubbed thrid-party games than Watch Dogs.
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>>323552220


Its still relevant though. People who buy Nintendo games can't support a console. Look at Wii U. Its NEEDS to compete with the others to survive.
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>>323551830
if you have time to worry about future of some console, you have time to beat your backlog
now answer me this, nigga
did you beat your backlog? All of it?
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>>323552329
Says who? Last time I checked Nintendo was making lots of money. And Mario Maker sold 2.5 million copies and Splatoon 3.5. Let me remind you they get all the profits from those.
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>>323552392


Why can't I worry about the future of a console?
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>>323552519

I said the console can't support itself not games. Most of the money made from Nintendo recently are from amiboos.
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>>323552523
do you worry about the future of the big mac and the legacy of the bad dragon brand name too? Brands aren't people. Caring about it makes you retarded.
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>>323552523
you dodging the question, anon.
show me your backlog.
there are probably thousands games you never played but wanted to. and yet to worry about something which doesn't exist.
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>>323552607


That's really dumb. You are dumb.
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>>323552220
Dumb analogy, although not as dumb as the usual one found here.

One was meant to be a sports car for rich people, the other wasn't. Wii U is competing in a similar price point and trying to attract the same people. The fact people buy modern Nintendo home systems for Nintendo games is just the reality that they have shit for third party support.
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>>323551830
>Stores no longer stock WiiU games in your country.
>Have to go to the Gamestop equivalent; only have 4 titles in stock.

Yeah naw it's dead.
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>>323552220


Nah bro.

Wii U is watery shit. Ps4 is a solid log of shit. They are still shit. They compete because they are both pieces of poop.
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>>323552842
>3rd world country
>indication of anything
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>>323553006


I live in the US bro. All the gamestops don't have Wii Us. Just like they don't have any vitas. They only sell used Wii Us because people are trading it in all the time.
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>>323552591
>I said the console can't support itself not games.
What? They making money with the Amiibos doesn't mean they only made money with that.

>>323552752
What you say doesn't make sense. People buy Nintendo consoles because they want to play Nintendo games. Third parties have nothing to do with them. You're referring to the rest of gamers.
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Wii U has jack shit third party support because it's the only new gen console that's still using the PowerPC architecture. Not only is it harder to port games into Wii U, but they are guaranteed to sell less than on other consoles because the port is always inferior to the PS4/Xbone/PC versions.

NX better be an x86 console or Nintendo is fucked once again. They need to stop fucking over devs and consumers because Nintendo wants to save money by charging a premium for archaic hardware.
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>>323553106
K.
And that's why Xenoblade Chronicles X is dominating the market right? Plus has the largest online user base At the moment? Lie more dipweed.
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>>323551830
I picked a Wii U up last week. What are Some good games to get? So far I've gotten Splatoon, Mario Maker and Mario Kart 8.

Are there any worthwile 3rd party games at all? Also, are there any hidden gems that ere eshop only? Maybe something indie?
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wow only took you 4 years to state the obvious and shill your shitty site
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>>323553340


Yes. Check out meme run on the eshop. Hidden gem.
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>>323551830
Nintendoomed
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>>323553406
Thanks for the serious answer, fuckface.
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The only explanation I can think of is that they're gearing up for NX

They're jumping ship with the Wii U. That's why we didn't get too much towards the end of last year. And the only two games coming out this year worth mentioning are Star Fox and Zelda
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>>323553287
Can I have a source on those claims? Not trying to be a douche just genuenly interested
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>>323553340
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Sm4sh
DongFreeze
Bayonetta
W101
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>>323553554
also Pokken.
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>>323551830
>How can they even compete?
The NX.

Literally the only hope Nintendo has outside of the handheld market. If they fuck that up, they might as well just stop trying.
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>>323552220
But where's the audience?
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>>323553509
Wonderful 101, Pikmin 3, Bayonetta 2, Splatoon, Smash and Xenoblade X. That's literally it.
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>>323553406
that game was removed months ago

step your shitposting up faggot
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>>323553340
Pretty much every game by Nintendo. Depends on what you want. Wonderful 101 and Bayo 1 + 2, mainly. I don't get many e-shop games, but you have Shantae.
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>>323553274
x86 CPUs and systems are pricey though (when compared to alternatives like ARM, PowePC, 6502, etc.) and the only inexpensive x86 option is AMD and they're trash. Nobody wants a $599 system.
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>>323553653
12 million people is more people than the population of a lot of countries, so they're everywhere.
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>>323553578
I'll get Dongfreeze for sure.

I'm not sure yet about W101 and Xenoblade. I'll probably pick up Bayo soon as it is quite cheap right now.
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>>323553636
Ahh, forgot about that.

Personally i'm not too excited for it but it does count.
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>>323551967
Bullshit. If that were the case, I wouldn't have both an Xbone and a PS4.
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>>323553701

Really? Why was it removed?
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>>323553821
W101 is 28 bucks on amazon right now nigga

If you're interested in Bayo you might as well get it too
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>>323553882
Yeah, that's weird. Why the fuck do you have both an Xbone and a PS4?
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>>323553642
It was 19 years since the N64 release.
I have no faith that something will change in 1996+20th or 1996+21st year.
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>>323553708
PS4 uses a cheap customized APU and it blows the fuck out of Wii U's performance and it's easy to port games to compared to PowerPC. The cost between them is negilIble at this point.

The only advantage of using PowerPC in Wii U is that they retain backwards compatability support with Wii games. I don't think it's a good trade off for having shit third party support, weak hardware, and making any future console they make bound by PowerPC or risk losing BC that Nintendo loves so much.
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>>323553917
I think it had something to do with meme run using the troll face man, and the creator sent out a DMCA claiming that the creator of meme run didn't have his permission to use it.
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>>323553882

Congrats you're a minority.
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>>323554038
I mean, I can't play Gears on my PS4, and I can't play Uncharted on my Xbone. I got the both of them so I can play Sony and Microsoft games. I figured that would be self-explanatory.
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>Only 3 games releasing on Wii U in 2016
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>>323554227
They never announce all their games at the same time anyway.
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>>323554070
Yeah so no. PS4 and Xbox have shit specs and are both out performed by Nintendo. Even the 64 renders better than your shitgens.
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>>323554070
Afaik the WiiU CPU is much better than the PS4 CPU, which is barely above PS3 tier.

Its the GPU that makes the PS4 much stronger.
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>>323554225
Buying a console just for one game isn't self-explanatory, it's silly.
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They're a company that can literally keep a console alive by just releasing first party games. They've been doing it for a long time.
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>>323554325
Wii U is better at PPC performance but PS4 is much better at multithreaded performance.

At the end of the day, PS4 is a much stronger console than Wii U and costs about the same at this point.
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>>323554350
Of course it would be silly! It was also just an example. I don't exactly hate my time enough to jot down a detailed list of every single title I can't play between the two. You know how it is.
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>>323554434
>and costs about the same at this point.
What a joke.
The PS4 will cost you a ton because of forced paid online.

Its a much more expensive system, only that the costs are hidden.
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>>323554372
In fact it looks like they're gonna strengthen that trait even further now that they've unified their console and handheld dev teams, which means more games.
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>>323552519
>Last time I checked Nintendo was making lots of money.
Thanks to Amiibos and the 3DS.

Without seen hard data on the revenue and profits on the WiiU, just a couple of million seller games don't say a lot.
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>>323554434
This isn't a strength competition, it's about videogames, and the PS4 has jackshit yet.
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IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR. NINTENDO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE GOOD GUYS SAVING THE INDUSTRY AND NOW THEY'RE COMPLETELY FUCKED BY TWO OF THE WORST COMPANIES EVER.
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>>323551830
Nobody has ever bought Nintendo consoles for third party games.
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>>323554503
Uhh... No one's forcing you to get PS+. I've been doing fine without it for years.

The only thing that makes the PS4 more expensive is the fact that you actually have games to buy for it.
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They get 2 zelda this year who cares about ubisoft and EA?
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>>323554667
The NES says hello.
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>>323554503
No one is forcing you to pay to play online on PS4. If you don't think it's worth it then by all means don't pay for it. $40 a year is about the same price I pay for a 3DS game.
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>>323554372

It really depends on your definition of "alive"
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>>323554584
The 6 figure sales numbers on the games are still pretty impressive considering the low install base.
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>>323554675
Except you can buy all those games for PC, and you won't have to pay for the online. What the fuck are you even playing there if you don't use online?
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>>323554737
No it doesn't.
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>>323551830
Good maybe they'll learn from their mistakes this ti.....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Nintendo
>Ever learning from their mistakes
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>>323554675
>No one's forcing you to get PS+
nobody was forcing that on PS3 or Vita.
PS4 online paywall is basically - "Oh you want to play that game you bought online? WELL TOO BAD MOTHERFUCKER, PAY UP 5$ A MONTH FOR OUR SUPER STABLE AND EXPENSIVE SERVERS"
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>>323554675
>>323554740
>no one is forcing you to pay , just dont use online with your console in 2016
Fucking jokers.
Sony bred a really disgusting kind of fanboy. Not even xbox fanboys went that far.
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>>323554667
That's the problem. People who didn't get the GameCube when it had the best line up of 3rd party games are to blame for the direction Nintendo has taken since.
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>>323554737
So does SNES.
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I hope Ubisoft never puts another game on the Wii U, that company only makes shit. Why would I want to play western games anyway?
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>>323554614

They're hardly completely fucked. They had enough money sitting in their bank account to endure quite a number of years of losses and they've survived flops before as well.
Doubtless the weakness of the WiiU is what's pushing them to get a new console out soon but by the time the NX is launched it'll have been about 5 or 6 years since the WiiU launch, which is actually what was considered standard for a console generation life.
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>>323554843
and Nintendo bred a really disgusting fanboys that support region locking, underpowered hardware for an expensive price, no crossgame voice chat, and forcing gimmicks upon people.
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>>323554667
Yeah, they bought Nintendo handhelds instead.
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>>323554757
Well, it still is because people are still buying it and a lot of people are still interested at buying it. Hell, it's selling pretty well in Japan.

In all seriousness if you would ask any sane knowledgeable person if what console is the best to get in the present, they would say a Wii U.
The Wii U literally has the best games this gen has offered so far. And most of it is GOTY material, I mean last year alone game of a ton of GOTY tier games from the Wii U. And it has offered a lot of games in the past years that were really good.

And it isn't over. The Wii U still has a lot going for it. Good games will continue to go to it for 3 years at most before NX.

In my honest opinion, only a ill informed faggot would choose a PS4 or a Xbone over a Wii U at this point in time. You are literally buying a console for games that aren't even out yet. Sure, the PS4 would overtake the Wii U's value games wise at some point in time, but that time is not now.
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>>323554993
every console user period supports underpowered hardware. that wasn't much of a problem during decades.
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>>323554993
>BUT NINTENDO
fucking sonyggers are the worst.
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>>323554993


kek wrekt
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>>323551967
Too bad wii u dosent have many notworthy nintendo games either.
Its no supprise everybody choose the 3ds as their nintendo platform over the wii u.
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>>323554843

I still remember when the sony fans were using arguments like ">Ever paying for online" about the xbox 360.
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>>323555086
Hardware only matters when sony has the best system.
But it also doesnt matter when its compared to the PC.
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>>323555086
Nintendo takes it to a new extreme though

3 core CPU in 2012? Still using the same architecture as fucking Gamecube in 2016?
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>>323555125
It is really fucking disgusting.
I did go for the PS3 because of free online.
Now Sony decided to go full Microsoft and shit on consumers and people actually defend them for it.
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>>323554993
>no crossgame voice chat

Fuck you for supporting that and destroying any semblance of a community XBL ever had.
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>>323554325
>Afaik the WiiU CPU is much better than the PS4 CPU
You're completely wrong, if you were only using 2 threads on Wii U and 2 threads on PS4 they would be similar in performance but the PS4 allows developers to use 7 cores. The Wii U CPU is still based on the same architecture used by the Gamecube, now it's just running at like 1.3GHz.
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>>323554843
Dude, I have it all, alrighty? Maybe next time, you could contribute something instead of devolving it all into baseless namecalling?
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>>323555215
new extreme power wise was Wii, not Wii U.
stop exaggerating things, start being idort.
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>>323554282
The next time they can announce games is e3 and only a few selected e3 titles release in 5 months after reveal(as it would be a PR nightmare).
He is very likely not that much off with those 3 games, maybe they will shit out some shovelware that they dont expect to sell or be well received but that will be about it.
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>>323555291
Stop being a fanboy cunt and people wont call you one.
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>wii u alives guys!
>NX comes out
???
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>>323555367
nobody knows what NX is. it can be as well as 3DS replacement.
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>>323555215
You know it's sad when the CPU in Xbox 360 that came out in 2005 is stronger than Wii U's.
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Sales wise, hell naw

Title wise its got Zelda, Star Fox and Kowashitai for this year afaik

I hope the next console doesnt have a gimmick that is half of the production cost of the console, but this is Nintendo, so yeah...
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>>323555359
Again, pretty baseless.
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>>323555367

We're still in the rumor stage regarding the NX. Long ways away from any kind of release.
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>>323555447
Defending paid online and saying that its optional in 2016 is all the base I need.
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>>323555421
wii u indeed have games, but nintendo replace it with NX and mobile
but of course its normie fans and developers fault right, never nintendo
amiibo is all we need
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>>323554993
>no crossgame voice chat
How can fucking Vita do this shit for FREE while 3DS and Wii U still can't do it?
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>>323555536
>and mobile
aaaaand opinion discarded.
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>>323555473
>We're still in the rumor stage regarding the NX. Long ways away from any kind of release.


Fucking kek. Delusional. The NX will be shown off this year and MAY even release this winter.
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>>323555447

Fine, you're being a fanboy cunt for defending making a system that was previously free a paid-for service by saying "but you don't have to use it".
You can fuck right off with that apologist attitude, online is an integral part of most games these days.
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>>323554987
More like 4 - 5 years but you're right familia. Console cycles need to go back to that, last gen's 8 year cycle made this gen worse because of it.
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>>323555586

At least 3DS and WiiU online services are FREE as well then.
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>>323555586
How PS4 can't do that for FREE then?
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Fucking kek just got here. How fast did they deflect to sony this time?
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>>323555768
You get what you pay for then.

As in you pay for nothing, you get nothing.
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>>323553882
Statistically some people will be retarded, yes.
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>>323555527
I think you have me confused with someone. I didn't defend it at all. I DID say it was option, but I hardly see that as being a fanboy. That's just how it is, just stating a fact. The same could be said for anything. I wouldn't be an Xbox fanboy if I said Live was optional.

>>323555670
Again, as stated above. I'm just calling it like I see it. You don't have to pay for online, and that's that. If it means that much to you, and quite frankly, I don't blame you, you have more than one alternative.
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>>323555901
>you see, paywalling this core feature of console and games is just an option.
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Literally the only third party people buy on Nintendo these days is Monster Hunter.

Nintendo games have been garbage since the Wii era, so I hope people seriously don't buy Nintendo consoles for them exclusively.
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>>323555901
Calling access to online for any system in 2016 optional is absolute bullshit and exactly what a fanboy cunt like you would say.

Now do you have anything else do add or will you continue sucking off Sony and MS?
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>>323555847

Still more than both PS4 and Xbone then, where you payfor shit that sony fans were laughing at xbox fans for paying for last gen.
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>>323555357
>What are Nintendo Directs
They can announce a game anytime. They never cared about E3 anyway.
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>>323554225
> I have a ps4 for this unreleased game and xbone for this unreleased game

great job anon, you're officially retarded
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>>323556015
>Nintendo games have been garbage since the Wii era
Thats what Gamecube retards actually think while praising garbage like Mario Sunshine.
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>>323552220
In that case the Wii U should cost $30.

"People buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games." I keep hearing that. While true, it didn't used to be. Historically, such an environment cannot survive, either.

People eventually stopped buying SEGA consoles for anything but SEGA & Capcom games. Result? SEGA drops out of console business. People bought Neo-Geo for SNK games. Result? SNK eventually nearly goes out of the video game business entirely.

Unless Nintendo decides to price themselves like a Prius vs a Ferrari, they cannot survive without compelling products. While their own games tend to be good, their not enough to keep the console business model afloat.

Not without 3rd party games & software, which most companies aren't willing to give. Too many of them remember the bullshit Nintendo pulled against them over the decades.
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>>323556015

Do you only count people buying third party when it sells 1 million units?

What if it does 500k? That magically doesnt count?
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>>323555650
Nintendo consoles get anounced at least one year before release. And the names/concept two years before (N64, Gamecube, DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii U had these cases)
The NX, handled or not is going to release 2017, and if its nt Wii U succesor, then the next console is coming in 2018.
Shouldn´t you be in school anyways?
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>>323556015
>so I hope people seriously don't buy Nintendo consoles for them exclusively
Well, why 10 million people bought a WiiU then?
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>>323556183
Name 3 third party titles that have sold 500k or over on Wii U.
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>>323551830
wii u is dead nx is this year wii u was another gamecube
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>>323555901

As I said, online is made such an integral part of most games these days that not wanting to pay for online access really means you're getting a gutted experience.
Again: it was free on Playstation last gen and still is and on WiiU, 3DS PSVita and PC, all these online gaming options are still subscription-free (with the exception of a few PC MMOs, but even then most MMOs these days are trying to use F2P models).

It's delusional to try and act like online access is still "just an optional extra".
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>Handhelds successful
>Consoles not so much
>What do?
>Make a dual handheld/console hybrid with a shared library


Fixed Nintendos problem. Sony basically stated they wont make another handheld so Nintendo have zero competetion in the dedicated handheld videogame system market.
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>console babbies arguing about specs

Literally nobody gives a fuck about specs for consoles because it doesn't matter. They live and die based on price point and exclusives.
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>>323556231
Mario Kart

IIRC, half of the Wii U's install base owns that one game.
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>>323556201
>muh pattern
the insecurity is palpable
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>>323551830
Good riddance to bad rubbish I say. It's time for Nintendo to abandon gimmicks and abandon the casuals and make another real console with real 3rd party support that isn't wigger/normalfag shit.
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>>323553554

>implying Zelda isn't going to be an NX game, or at the very least an NX/Wii U cross platform release with the NX version being the definitive version thanks to the NX's (hopefully) superior hardware.

Come on, step it up senpai.

It's 20-fucking-16 people, does anyone out there seriously believe that Zelda isn't going to be an NX launch title? Because you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
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Wake up and smell the ashes, sonyggers!
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>>323556256

ZombiU
Rayman Legends
Just Dance
Monster Hunter
Skylanders
Lego Movie/Marvel
Disney Infinity
Sonic All Star Racing

Besides I thought we were including 3DS because you said Nintendo.
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>>323556490
Oh my god, you just rekt that fag in his gay butt hole.
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>>323556330
>>323556015 guy said he hoped people don't buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, but you named a Nintendo game.
I considered to buy a WiiU only when MK8 came out, though
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No matter how salty Nintendo fans are in this thread, they can't deny that PS4 is outselling Wii U and is getting all the third party support from developers.

Imagine how much better PS4 is going to sell once it finally DOES get games. I mean, didn't PS4 just outsell Wii U's LTD sales this holiday season? and that's with NO FUCKING GAMES either.
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>>323551967
>people buy nintendo consoles
The whole problem is they don't.
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>>323556482
Smash bros didn't sell the WiiU, Mario kart didn't sell the WiiU, and Zelda sure as heck isn't going to bring a dead console to life that's already been buried by competition. Zelda isn't popular anymore enough to carry a console on its own like it used to, especially if its another gimmick Zelda like skyward shit was. Son I love Nintendo, I've been playing their shit since before most of this board was born, but srsly..stop living in delusion. The console failed.
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>>323556013
Honestly, online isn't THAT core of a feature. The only recently example I can think of is Battlefront, and the only upcoming example I can think of is Overwatch. Most other games treat their online as an addition. Why else would online passes only cost $10? Because it's only a small part of the overall experience!

>>323556053
I'm just wondering why it bothers you so much. It probably doesn't even affect you that much one way or the other. But if I must continue to suck Sony and MS off, let me tell you more. The PS4 and Xbone use controllers, they play Blu-Ray discs after downloading the proper application, and they run on electricity! Just more fanboying for ya!

>>323556274
I'd argue the integrity of online. I personally have been fine playing my Batmans and Metal Gears and Bloodbornes offline, but that's just me. Like I said, alternatives. Plenty of people oughta know by now what they're getting into, and if playing online is important to them, they'll think twice before getting a PS4 or Xbone. Wouldn't you?
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>>323556490
Notice how every game on that list except for Monster Hunter is garbage.
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>>323556201
If that's the case, why did they push all their b-team garbage onto their system last year instead of full fledged games? Do you honestly think they're gonna support the console like that for another whole year?
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>>323556592

>Nintendo for Nintendo exclusives and Nintendo games
>Playstation for 3rd party/or a PC

Its been like this since the fucking N64 dude.

You should be owning either Nintendos console+Sonys console or Nintendos console+PC. Otherwise you are a massive fanboy faggot.
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>>323556592
Imagine how much better PS4 is going to sell once it gets piracy.
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>>323556768
>Rayman legends
>garbage
kill yourself
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>>323556768

>Rayman Legends
>Garbage

I will destroy you
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>>323556768

The point is its 3rd party games that actually were put on the system and they sold ok.

You cant buy games that dont exist.
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>>323556592
I'm far from salty even being a Nintendo fan, I'm glad they failed this generation. It's the wakeup call they needed to stop pandering to the worst casuals and to be good again like they're capable of. If they dont,I'll abandon them even as a long time Nintendo fan. I'm done with current Nintendo.
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>>323556490
Besides Monster Hunter you only listed 2 decent games and both of those have better versions that can be played without a Wii U.
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>>323551830

But what about the Vita? :(
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>>323556768
Every video game released since 2010 has been bad, so not sure what your point is here.
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>>323556813
Imagine how much better Wii U is going to sell once it gets piracy.

You can already pirate on it and it's still selling like hot dog shit
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>>323556813
Who the fuck cares about piracy on consoles?
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>>323556768
>Monster Hunter
>not garbage

Try again
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>>323556768
>>323556887
moving the goalposts THIS hard
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>>323556768
>>323556887

>ZombiU
>Rayman Legends
>Disney Infinity
>Sonic All Star Racing

>bad

Shit taste.
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>>323556898
You mean my PS4 controller with OLED screen?
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>>323554757
They make 500 million$ benefits so yeah, alive.
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>>323556920
Australians, canadians, and south americans.

I almost would feel bad for ausfags if they werent 99% of the shitposting on 4chan in general. $100 a game is just stupid.
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>>323555421
>It will replace the 3ds
>It will replace the console that actually sold and still sells and not the one they already said it is a failure
Grade A logic.
Meanwhile in reality:
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/12/10/nintendo-america-says-nintendo-3ds-is-here-to-stay/
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/29/nintendo-nx-is-apparently-a-home-console-device-hinted-by-koei-tecmo-ceo/
http://sheekyforums.com/thread/311439227/video-games/spike-chunsoft-planning-games-for-stationary.html
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>>323556965
>kiddy shit
>kiddy shit
>kiddy shit
>kiddy shit

Nice compilation, m8.
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>>323555421
>replace something that is selling
>don't replace something that isn't selling

You are a retard.
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>>323557006

Why wont people buy a PS4 controller?
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>>323556707
>Honestly, online isn't THAT core of a feature
say that for those who play fighting games for example. Or racing games.
If you don't have anyone to play locally - you are screwed.
It is not "small" part of experience, it's one of the essential part for quite a few genres.
Not to mention constant popups and such shit.
>getting into singleplayer arcade or training in DoA5
>insta pop up that you can't search for opponent cause no PS+

devs can even paywall local multiplayer via PS+ like with shitty garden warfare - still an example

so no - there is NO ANY FUCKING excuse for PS+ online paywall. It's not an option, it's forced milking of your audience.

also
>playing FPS/TPS on consoles
anon, plz
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>>323556921
Without Monster Hunter, 3DS would already be discontinued.
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>>323556920
Yuropoors
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>>323556915
>since 2010
Nice meme. Games have started to become worse in the early 2000s. I don't think that there has been a good game released later than 2005.
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>>323557032
>using sheekyforums as a news source
Dumbass
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>>323557032
>>323557102
DS were selling quite well in time of 3DS announcement and release
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>>323557172
It would still have pokemon
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>He bought a Nintendo console over a Sony console

For what purpose?
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>>323557273
Pokemon is all dried up now, Monster Hunter is still #1 on the sales chart both physically and digitally.
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>>323557283

Ask her, she's Japanese.
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>>323557032
The 3DS is nearly 5 years old at this point and it was underpowered and hindered by gimmicks even when it first came out. It is well within the realm of reason that they'd reveal a successor to it this year, especially since they can be fairly certain that it'll sell well as they actually have dominance in the handheld market.
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>>323551830
>New Zelda
>New Star Fox
>Exclusive weeb pandering
So far, so good.
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>>323557283
I have SFC, N64, GC, Wii, Wii U, GBA, DS, 3DS
as well as PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PSP, PS Vita
fight me, faggot.
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>>323557249
DS was not selling nearly as well as the wii, and not as well as the 3DS now either.
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>>323551830
I own a Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One.
most games I own for Wii U (around 9 or 10)
compared to PS4 + One (one each)

3rd party developers like Ubsisoft/EA/Bethesda are just making trash not worth buying.

My desire for 3rd party yearly franchises is completely diminished, could be just me tho
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>>323557283
Sony hasn't been good in my eyes since PS2, and even then that was stretching it by the middle of the PS2's lifespan when it was obvious they wanted to abandon the PS1 style quality they had consistently on their platform for moeshit that was emerging, wiggers that were coming into gaming, and other faggot degenerate normalfags that influenced gaming with their shittaste in movie games and QTE garbage resulting in what we have today.

Sony's consoles used to be a plethora of quality, now you gotta sort through a fucking garbage heap of niche crowd pandering and non localized games to find good titles.
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>>323553106
The two Gamestops I live near sell both of those things brand new. Your experience isn't an indication of anything.
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>>323557172

>lets ignore the multiple 5+ million sales
>ignore pokemon, animal crossing, dragon quest, yokai watch, mario, zelda
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>>323557451
now remember 3DS sales for first year or so.
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>>323554675

Zing.
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>>323556878
Hahaha based sasuke
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>>323556965
Disney infinity on wii u is definetly bad. Worst version of the game every single iteration.
The same goes for SART, while not being total garbage, the wii u version is bad compared to the others.
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>>323557172
Now this is delusion.
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>>323553106

Yeah, and I'm Donald Trump..
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>>323557481
>most games I own for Wii U (around 9 or 10)
let me guess you own:
Mario Kart 8
Smash 4
Bayonetta 2
Splatoon
Super Mario Maker
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Wind Waker HD
Hyrule Warriors
Nintendo Land

What a shitty collection of games Wii U has.
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>>323557172
Mario Kart Bundle + Price drop is what saved the 3DS.
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>>323556707
>I personally have been fine playing my Batmans and Metal Gears and Bloodbornes offline

holy shit this denial.
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>>323557353

>pokemon is all dried up
>Pokemon X/Y, 15 million units sold
>Pokemon ORAS, 11 million sold
>not even including spin offs here

>MH3U
>MH4
>MH4U
>MHX
>14 million units combined
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>>323557172

The salt in this Vitard is strong.
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>>323551830
>all but forgotten
What is this stupid sentence? It means everything except forgotten but they're clearly trying to say that it is forgotten.
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>>323557159
I still say it's an option because... yeah, that's the gist of it. You don't have to have it if you don't want it, and by this point, everyone should know by now what to expect, and if not, that's what they get for not doing research. If you fancy yourself a rabid online player, you really should invest in the gaming platform that fits you. So yeah. It's optional.

But for whatever reason, you seem to get the impression that I think it's acceptable. I don't even believe in the Xbone's online fee, never mind PS4 when it use to be free. It's as anti-consumer as it gets.

Still, it's optional.

>>323557697
I don't get it. Arkham Origins had terrible multiplayer, so I'm not gonna continue, MGSV has microtransactions up the ass online, so I won't even give it the time of day, and I had my fill of Bloodborne after my first playthrough. What's to deny?
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>>323551830
>most major developers seem to have all but forgotten about the Wii U
DId any of them even care to begin with?
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>>323557248
I just copied the first link.
Still dosent change the fact that süike literally says NX is a stationary console.

>>323557392
Not when the other console they has these problems but way worse and on top of it 0 3rd party support and need for high bugdet games that are unlikely to make as much money.

>>323557249
DS was a completely different situation as wii was still going relatively good and the DS still had a long life cycle.
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>>323555357
>can
Said who? You?
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>>323557803

>http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/22/the-playstation-vita-is-set-to-succeed

Its called the media m8.
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>>323557995
that's nice spreadsheet you got there for DVD players.
Do you really think PS2 sold cause it was good console? It sold cause it was DVD player.
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>>323556090
They rarely reveal more than 1 game per direct.
As a matter of fact the only time they ever revealed a big wii u game during a direct was in a direct was in 2013 when they showed XCX in their damage control direct.
Yes e3 is still the place they reveal their games.
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>>323551830
Wii U was already dead.

>Worse CPU specs than Xbox 360
>Same PowerPC architecture as Gamecube
>Controller gimmick costs half of the consoles price
>Outdated online infrastructure (which is a given since it's FREE)
>Region locked
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>>323558170


>It only sold because it was a DVD player

Is this what they call nintendulsion?
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>>323558170
sure kid, whatever helps you sleep at night
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nintendo release a fuck tons of game though, unlike the competition that announce shit that will not be out in the next 2 years, nintendo usually has a 6 month.1year limit. Compared to other brands they are geting lots of shit. You can point a Sony who is more or less the worst offender or running announcements for years and years, but Microsoft and PC are the same.
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>>323558170
And a video game console. If people wanted just a DVD player, they'd buy just a DVD player. The big draw was that it was a DVD player AND a games machine. That's why it was so successful.
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>>323557892
yeah, you gave a vibe that you think it's sorta acceptable.
Nevermind then, my brain is fried for work and I gotta get off PC.
have a nice day/night/whatever, anon.
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>>323558170
>It sold cause it was DVD player.

That's why less than half of PS2 owners bought a PS3. PS2 was a shit console through and through.
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>>323558239
It still has the most games that actually feel like games. That alone just near enough to fuck all of that off.
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>>323558170
>Do you really think PS2 sold cause it was good console? It sold cause it was DVD player.

NINTENDO FAGS ARE THIS FUCKING DELUSIONAL

Nevermind that PS2 had SSX, Metal Gear, Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry, GTA, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, etc.
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WHY DID THEY NAME IT THE WIIU

ARE THEY STUPID?
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>>323558170
true, the catalog was minimal. Not like Wii U.
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>>323557961
List of noteworthy wii u games announced during a direct in its 4 years of life
XCX
Yeah thats it. If you expect them to reveal something big in a direct you either think nintendo is retarded for passing on free PR or you are delusional. They even straight out said directs are not mini e3s and were neither meant to be and the direct where they announced XCX was a exception.
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>>323557542

3DS "horrible" first year was literally media click bait and shitposting.

It was being compared directly to the 2nd best selling system of all time. It couldnt even compete. Its first "disaterous" year sold more than Vitas first and second years.
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>>323558369
Go easy on them, anon. They're defending a sinking ship.
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>>323558283
I suppose the difference is that Nintendo announces a game and then you don't hear about it for a long time as opposed to the rest who announce a game and keep telling you that they are working on a game.
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>>323558285

DVD players were like $400+ at the time. PS2 was the cheapest option for a dvd player AND its could play Grand Theft Auto. You are insane if you think it didnt sell because it could play DVDs
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>>323558270
>>323558272
>>323558285
>>323558369
>>323558440

>The PS2's built-in functionality also expanded its audience beyond the gamer,[2] as its debut pricing was the same or less than a standalone DVD player. This made the console a low cost entry into the home theater market.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2

>One of the biggest issues, was that the Playstation 2, beyond being a follow up to the insanely popular original PlayStation, was an affordable DVD player in a market where stand-alone players were still just too expensive for most people.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2010/02/10/what-ever-happened-to-the-dreamcast/
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>>323558369
And the Wii sold for all its casual shit.
The Wii U sold like shit because of its name and severe lack of marketing. It has nothing to do with the video games or functionality at all, and you're delusional to think it is.
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>>323558584
Well, you said it best yourself.

>AND its could play Grand Theft Auto

Point proven.
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Why do these Wii U threads always end up being sony threads?
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>>323557665
whats wrong with Bayonetta 2?
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>>323558487

>Nintendo
>sinking ship

I dont think so Timmy.
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>>323551830
nx is being announced in march
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>>323558584
Yeah, in 2000 when the PS2 launched. In 2001 they were already at a price of a PS2 and in next years the price sunk even lower
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>>323558737
because they're made by sony fan boys and shit posters looking for replies
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>>323558737
I don't know, why do all /v/ topics devolve into posting /a/ imagery?
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>>323558751
it's not on PS4,Xbone or PC
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>>323558737

Because the Vita is dead.
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>>323558697

Yeah man but the point is people who wanted a dvds player asked themselves "Do I want this dvd player or this dvd player that can also play games?"

And they bought a ps2. Even people with zero interest in ever playing videogames bought PS2.
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>>323558658
>The Wii U sold like shit because of its name
lost any credibility forever there.
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>>323558860
give it up anon, it's too hard of a concept to grasp to your regular console warrior
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>>323558854
That's fucking stupid. Unless you're a mouthfoaming fanboy/hater, why would youbwant a console to have less good games.
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Wherein Nintendo Fans Continue to Pretend Exclusives Overwrite All Other Factors

Starring
Immense Faggotry
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>>323558951
that's the point.
but still, years after release, salt about Bayo 2 being Wii U exclusive continues
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>>323558952
right, its more than exclusives.

its free online access, and a great online network called miiverse.
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>>323558952

They did with the DS, 3DS and Wii. And it will do it again.
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>>323559036
May as well be salty about any game being released on the WiiU.
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>>323558952
what's amazing is that sony losers come on here to shit about the wii u, while the wii u owners are playing theirs
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>>323558940

The fact that the PS3 bombed proves his point a bit.
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>>323559113
that happens too, but pretty rarely
Bayo 2 is really some special case which makes salt flow, usually from people who picked up Bayo 1 from bargain bin and claiming to be fans.
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>>323559074
uhh, sure. Miiverse is all the rage. I think I would've traded in my Wii U if not for Miiverse.
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>>323558779
Sony bankrupt since 2000 :^)
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>>323559194
well launch price of PS3 didn't help all that much either.
but isn't PS3 was in line of bluray players at the time? price wise?
I don't remember that too well
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>>323559269
>Bayo 2 is really some special case which makes salt flow

This is because people who played Bayo 1 on PS3/Xbox 360 enjoyed it more that all the Xbox One and PS4 games they have, and now it hurts that Bayo 2 is gone. It proves how shitty PS4/Xbone games are.
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>>323557803
>It means everything except forgotten

That's not what it means though.
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>>323551830
People don't really buy Nintendo games for the next AAA shooter Nintendo's target audience is children or people with deep pockets who grew up with NES. The later group they didn't cater to enough last gen so they lost sales this gen.
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>>323559523
>people who played Bayo 1 on PS3
>enjoyed it more
anon, let's be realistic here
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>>323559347

Nope. You had blu ray players far cheaper than the PS3.
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Wii U is a huge fuck up in both console design and marketing. The name Wii U is mostly confused as a Wii accessory from what I've seen in multiple retail stores in my area. In addition, the console is barely more powerful than a Xbox 360 yet it costs just as much as a PS4. Like what >>323553274 >>323554070 said, Wii U being a PowerPC console really fucked over Nintendo's chances of ever getting solid third party support. What incentives do third party developers have to develop for a console that's not only weaker than the competition, harder to port stuff over to, and will guarantee that software sells for their title won't be as high as the competition?


Honestly, Nintendo should just drop out of the console market. Their biggest sellers are always on handheld. Gameboy, DS, and now 3DS are making Nintendo a lot more money than their consoles did. The Wii was a special case since it was released at at time when casual gaming was really taking off before smartphones and tablets started becoming a common household item.
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>>323559590
got it, never really looked too much into PS3.
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Wii U is dead at this point. All Nintendo can really do is pander hard to those that actually own Wii U's and squeeze a few more console sales out through either a big price cut or just continually reminding everyone they can play Splatoon and Sm4sh on their plastic box
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Honestly I own every console
EVERY CONSOLE EVER
What all of the little sonyggers and microdicks don't seem to realize is that Nintendo games have and always will have the most replayability
Out of XBO PS4 and WiiU my WiiU gets played constantly
The PS4 has only a handfull of good games
The XBO is the same way
Honestly I will probably sell both of them when the NX comes out
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>>323552329
>Its still relevant though. People who buy Nintendo games can't support a console.

Have you ever actually seen the attach rates for the current gen?
Most people who own Wii Us buy something like 10-12 games

While PS4 and Xbone owners average out at around 2-3

Nintendo is making a lot of money on software sales, and unlike M$ and Sony who rely on multiplats, Nintendo sees all of the profit because most of those games that sell are either made or published directly by Nintendo themselves.
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>tfw consoles have to rely on garbo AAA titles to survive
I fucking hate normies.
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>>323557353
lol this guy
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>>323559697

People forget that there was a price war between blu ray and the now defunct HD-DVD. That's why Blu ray prices fell. So average Joe sixpack wasn't going to buy a $600 blu ray player like he was willing to buy a $299 DVD player. Sony went ooops.
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>>323559872
My dad used to work at Nintendo, he got fired when he said that those japs were batshit retarded as soon as he saw the final paper for the NX.
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>>323559895


Smaller user base = high attach rate. I'm surprised you didn't know this. Also you seem to think Wii U has more software sales than the PS4 or xbone. Source of those claims?
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>>323560035


You are going to have to reach inside my ass for source.
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>>323559872
>EVERY CONSOLE EVER
Even RCA Studio II? Mattel Hyperscan?
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>>323558873
The name is part of the reason though, so he's right.
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>>323554758

If selling software is the only point then just become a third party already. Also Nintendo's profits are coming from Amiibos and the devaluing of the JPY.
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Bunch of faggots in this thread. You'd think you guys have money invested in sony/nintendo stocks the way you frantically defend your console of choice.
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>>323560035
>>323560134
>>323559895

According to VGcharts

Wii U Consoles sold: 12.41 Million
Wii U Games sold: 70.55 Million
5 per console

PS4 Consoles sold: 35.33 Million
PS4 Games sold: 202.24 Million
5 per console

Xbone Consoles sold: 19.16 Million
Xbone Games sold: 109.47 Million
5 per console

But then again, VGCharts goes by the number of games shipped by the publishers, not number of games bought by consumers, so who knows how many games people have actually bought.
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>>323556175
The Wii U is the Ferrari in this case, though. It's the one aimed at a specific target, unlike the Dudebro 4. It's just a Ferrari with a shitty engine.

Sega and SNK had a whole lot of lots of different problems, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Nintendo's model is enough for them to survive, but of course they need to broad their target as a business. The NX looks promising so far, they only need to make it powerful enough.
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>>323553821
>I'll get this shit game for sure
>But I don't know about these two amazing games
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>>323551830
Only 3 years and they already announced the successor and the final year has nothing to show for it. Hell considering ALL genres the console only has a handful of must owns so you're SOL if you don't like a particular type of game while the other consoles have at least a 3rd party game to fill that gap.

Hell I would feel ripped off if I didn't buy this thing with mk8 (basic) for 180 bucks and 5.5.0 exploit coming soon.
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>>323561957
>Dongfreeze
>Shit

TAKE THAT BACK!
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>>323559523
I played Bayonetta 1 on Wii U and thought it was so bad that I couldn't force myself to keep going after the giant head man.

Is the Wii U the inferior version or something?
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>>323559531
How can "all but" mean anything other than "everything except"?
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I unironically love the Wii U and would take its first party stuff over the trash currently out for the ps4.
This is coming from someone who owns both consoles and a PC.
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How long before Nintendo has to scrap it's home consoles and shift entirely to the handheld market/publish its games on Android?
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>>323562394
another 10-20 years at least.

Unlike M$ and Sony, Nintendo actually makes quite a bit of money each gen and doesn't waste it on dumb shit.
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>>323562094
It's actually the superior version, maybe it's just not the game for you.
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>>323562049
Kill yourself.
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>>323555423
It's even sadder when the 360's CPU is more powerful than the PS4's CPU
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>>323562350
>I unironically have shit taste, please reply.
Here.
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>>323560429
I don't even own any of the discussed consoles, I just like talking about them in this sub.
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>>323555072
I totally agree with you, namefag.
The PS4 selling this well is one of the biggest head scratchers in vidya history.

The Wii U has the games but is not selling well.
The PS4 has nogaems but is selling well.

Why?
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>>323562625
DELETE THIS!
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>>323552392
I've told myself that this is the year that I clear out my backlog. This will involve convincing myself to jump back into Bravely Default shortly after I finished the first loop, as well as finding a fine balance for doing/ignoring Xenoblade's side quests.
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>>323562642
Why do you lie?
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>>323557512
That's games in general
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>>323562832
Majority of people playing games want something to play new multiplats on and majority also prefer consoles because they find PC too intimidating. And that leaves us with two options: PS4 and Xbox One.

Is it really so hard to compherend why PS4 is doing so well in this situation?
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We all know the Wii U sold like shit. How many times can these sites run the exact same article about it? It's a smug anime girl and outdated PS4 exclusives list away from being /v/ shitpost tier at this point.
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>>323562832
Because Nintendo released a console with no games too soon for consumers to care and Microsoft fucked themselves with the always online/no used games crap
Sony didn't win by being good, they were just the only option that appeared normal
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>>323551830
Pastebin or no read shill
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Do you guys really think children's games sell consoles? That has never happened. The Wii was family and party oriented. The only reason Mario Kart sold 30 million is because children wanted something for themselves. You are incredibly delusional if you think Mario, Kirby or legoshit are system sellers.
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>>323563142
Gotcha covered.
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Nintendo is abandoning the Wii U for NX.
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>>323556920
Anyone with a brain.
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>>323552220
>Does a Prius compete with a Ferrari because they're both cars too?
The difference in price between a prius and a Ferrari isnt 80 dollars
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>>323563574
>Do you guys really think children's games sell consoles?

some do like

Pokemon
Zelda
Mario

Some people I know only bought a 3ds for pokemon.
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>>323563574
Mario IS a system seller whether you choose to believe it or not and so is Zelda, Smash and Kart.
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>>323551830
>http://www.bidnessetc.com

get back to where ever the fuck you came from
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>>323553882
>Owns PS4 AND Xbone

Oh shit my sides
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>>323563914
Then why didn't they sell Wii Us? It had a Mario Kart and a Smash. It has 2 Zeldas with a third on the way, and only counting platformers, has 3 Mario titles right now.
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>>323563914
Mario is a system seller but Iwata was so worthless that he was the first to never have a main title Mario at launch.
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WatchDogs was released on WiiU?

I own a WiiU and didn't know that.
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>>323564223
No.

Hiroshi Yamauchi was the president when the Nintendo Gamecube launched with Luigi's Mansion, and not a main title Mario.
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>>323563890
>>323563914
Pokemon is a system seller.
Zelda isn't anymore since the N64. Didn't sell the GameCube. PH and Spirit Tracks didn't sell the DS. And no one cares for TP and SS.
Mario is not. Nobody bought a GameCube, Wii or Wii U for Sunshine, Galaxy and 3D land. Smash is popular among Nintendo fans, that's it. Still doesn't appeal to normals.
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>>323563074
Are you really expecting that this sub has the ability to think outside its own box?
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>>323564125
>Then why didn't they sell Wii Us?
Because what we got were remakes and the others weren't even main entry titles and Smash and Mario Kart still sold Wii Us.
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Nintendo are hell-bent on acquiring the casual market at this point, but they don't even know what the market is anymore. No one buys their shitty gimmick consoles after the Wii hype died down, and even if they did it wouldn't matter because no one wants to develop anything for that brick. Did Nintendo seriously expect for third party developers to just show up on their doorstep and beg to make shitty kid games for their console? Supercasuals don't care about the Wii U because they're the sort of people who don't care about games beyond shitty mobile apps which they mindlessly use to fill the few minutes of their days they have "free".

Casuals who care a little more about games will rather stick to Xbone and PS4, and only because they're perceived as having a more mature library (lol) and because Microsoft and Sony have a good reputation about "gamers" (casuals who play games a bit more).

Nintendo now is focusing on their "NX" console which is a desperate attempt to recapture the Wii's success with the supercasual market by bringing their games to mobile. The DS, which is the last pillar of Nintendo, is ironically the most hardcore console they have. Now they're bringing their hunger for the supercasual market to the DS, a system that was and still is doing fine.

Needless to say, Nintendo are retarded and fucked.
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>>323551830
>>323552591
>>323554584
>>323556175


Can't a console live even with small audience/moderate success? The gamecube was never a huge success, the same goes for the N64 and still Nintendo got interesting profits from these two console. The Wii U not competing with the other console is not that bad, it has its own identity at least. I couldn't say the same for the PS4/XBONE.

The industry seems big enough to keep the third biggest manufacturer alive with moderate sales. What's wrong with that?
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Some people go to the theatre to see blockbusters, others go for animated family films.

This is the anology you're looking for.
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>>323565269
I go to Blockbuster to see animated films.
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>>323564557
>Main entry titles.

How were the mario games on the wii u not main series titles?
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I want kiddy shit to die so damn much
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>>323565362
>I go to Blockbuster
How's life in 1996
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>>323564920
Do you have a source stating that that the Gamecube was profitable? I know that they made a lot of profit profit that generation but that could have just been thanks to the GBA an DS.
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>>323566184
Different sources stated a fall in term of profits, but there were no real loss. It got 13% of the market against the 60% of the PS2. And had a total of 22M console sold. The R&D in the development of the gamecube (stronger than the rest of its opponents) was reused in the Wii, which made it easier to release.

The first real loss in years for Nintendo was after the release of the Wii U
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Allow me to summarize this thread

Nintendo fans enjoy Nintendo games and will happily buy a new console to play them since its the only possible way to do that aside from waiting for 10 years for the console and its library to be properly emulatable

Meanwhile, the kind of people that buy Xbone or PS4 buy them to play things like CoD, Fifa, and other major AAA titles and sports games like Madden or Asscreed.

And PC users recognize that playing multiplats on consoles is silly and would rather play the best version of these multiplats, which to them is worth missing out on the 2-3 exclusives for each console that they may have wanted to play.

Wii U isn't selling very well because Nintendo didn't market it at all, and the name was a bad choice because it made it sound like a Wii addon

PS4 is selling very well because the average joe doesn't know shit about technology and thinks computers are magic and only super nerd geniuses know the secrets of how to assemble them, so they'll gladly pay for a console just so they have access to the 2-3 sports or CoD games that they'll play during the consoles lifespan.

Essentially, normies have invaded and have oversaturated the market to the point where it seems as though any game that doesn't sell a billion copies flopped, Nintendo is doing fine with its dedicated fan base, and Sony lucked out with the Xbone shooting itself in the face pre-launch, which caused a large majority of Xbox users to switch over to playstation.
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>>323569838
No son, people buy PS4 because PC is more expensive
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>>323570731
>PC is more expensive
It literally isn't
Its just slightly more complicated and requires doing more than just spending money.
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>>323570983
it is
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>>323551830
Did I go back in time to 2014?
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>>323569838
What a load of shit. Can nintendo fanboys stop clinging to PC in these attempts to feel better about yourselves for being shit eating consolefags? You are no better playing the latest mario than the average dudebro playing the latest call of duty.
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>>323569838
Can you answer me since when nintendo owns the pc market?
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>>323571952
>You are no better playing the latest mario than the average dudebro playing the latest call of duty.

But I buy Nintendo consoles for Local Multiplayer and a decent selection of games that aren't walking simulators/FPS , I also have a PC with a 970 though and play games just as often with my friends online.

The Nintendo+PC thing isn't just some meme, its a common thing for two main reasons
1: Its redundant as fuck to have a good PC and a PS4/Xbone since all three platforms essentially share the same major releases

2: Most Nintendo fans are 20-30 years old, and actually have jobs and can afford to build a PC rather than asking their parents for a new console for christmas.

I was a full idort last gen, and usually was. But this gen (so far anyway), I personally don't see the point in spending hundreds of dollars for the option to play crappy versions of multiplat games that I could play on my computer with a better controller, I also don't want to pay to play on my own internet either.
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>>323571591
This picture seems to be pretty old too, I just built a new rig and a bunch of things things were much, much cheaper, and thats in CDN too
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>>323572592
Consoles and console exclusives are cancer. You are supporting that cancer. You're not better than any other consolefag.

If you don't mind playing games at low resolutions and shitty framerates then why are you blaming other console owners for not caring?
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>>323562831
you're the cancer that's the problem with /v/. Bitter people who don't even play games anymore and think their opinions matter.
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>>323572696
Where's the mouse and keyboard? PSU? Monitor?
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>>323573582
>If you don't mind playing games at low resolutions and shitty framerates then why are you blaming other console owners for not caring?

Because I can't play Nintendo games on PC.
If I could I would, but I can't, so I buy their console.

I can, however, play 99% of the Xbone and PS4 library on PC, and it just seems silly to choose a PS4 over a PC, even if its only a $400 build.
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>>323572696
You're not counting display, keyboard, mouse, audio (headphones, speakers, mic/cam if you're an attentionwhore, interface if you're an audiophile), PSU, etc.

>>323573582
>exclusives are cancer
>being a "PC master race" redditard
And that's why you're going to pirate Dragon's Dogma next week, right faggot?
2/10 made me reply. At least you aren't as bad as this baiting faggot >>323562831
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>>323574248
So are you saying consoles are good as long as their games aren't on PC? And that's your reason for supporting a console?
Nintendo supporters are obviously the biggest cancer in this industry.
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> All this low grade shitposting

Schools out motherfuckers
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>>323574248
99%, come on pcfag that's bullshit and you know it
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>>323573582
>Consoles and console exclusives are cancer.
They are actually why you have a sort of competition. Remove those and you'll get devs having no real incentive to create a game worth buying hardware. Bloodborne could be done thanks to the money that Sony put into it. And there's not two mainline mario really identical besides galaxy 1/2 and NSMB because Nintendo had to prove that their system was worth the buy.

Why would Nintendo actually invest in their games if the mascot is enough to sell your games. Ask yourself why there has been 2 good Sonic games in 10 years. Games just on pc are far behind consoles in term of sales because the market is much more divided.
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>>323574942
Eternal summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oo8QzDHimQ
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>>323574109
Does your PS4 come with a TV?

Either way, its not hard to get a decent sized 1080p monitor on craigslist for like $20

Keyboards and mice are also dirt cheap.

IIRC the PSU is built into that case.
But that build is 18 months old, so all of those parts are now considerably cheaper giving you plenty of elbow room for shit that you and I both know you already own and don't need to purchase again.

>>323574331
>You're not counting display, keyboard, mouse, audio (headphones, speakers, mic/cam if you're an attentionwhore, interface if you're an audiophile), PSU, etc.

If we're including stupid shit like webcams and soundcards, I'll get us a revised price for the PS4. That way we can properly build a PC to match the real cost of the console.

PS4 500GB Star Wars Battlefront Bundle (includes 1 DualShock 4) - $595.00

DualShock 4 - $60.99
DualShock 4 - $60.99
DualShock 4 - $60.99
Playstation 4 Dust Cover by Foamy Lizard ® TexoShield - 34.99
PS4 Official Sony Vertical Stand - $24.99
VersionTech 3.5mm Pro Stereo Gaming Headset for PS4 - $38.99
HDE Wireless Bluetooth Online Chat Keyboard for DualShock 4 - $16.45
Thrustmaster T80 Racing Wheel - $119.99
Official PS4 Universal Media Remote - $39.99
12 month subscription to PS plus - $47.99
Nyko Playstation 4 Data Bank - $45.44
Dual USB Charging Dock Station for Sony PS4 Controllers - $7.43
VIZIO E32-C1 32-Inch 1080p Smart LED HDTV - $329.99

TOTAL PRICE FOR A NEW PS4: $ 1,484.06
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>>323574602
That's exactly the case. Consoles are good as long as they have exclusives to induce competition. If you have no big game pushing you into buying console A you'll buy console B. But if Console A and console B have both good games, there's a competition, and each manufacturer want bigger games to increase their share of the market. If each game is available on a single device, there's no real reason to not make candy Crush Saga 3 if 1 and 2 had the same success or Cowaduty/Asscred.
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>>323575505
Once you start naming used parts, you lost. You can get a used ps4 for dirt cheap.

>PSU built into a $29 case
Yeah right
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>>323576367
>Once you start naming used parts
You mean a Keyboard, Mouse and Screen?

Those aren't computer parts you melon, those are accessories. And we both know you already have all three of those things.
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>>323575626
Consoles are never good. They are locked and limited PCs, a PC can do anything a console does and better. I can't believe there are still people on /v/ who defend the existence of consoles.
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>>323557451

DS sold about 55 million more than the Wii and sold more than the PS2, which sold around 152 Million.
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>>323576764
Dude, its not as if none of us don't agree that it would be nice if every game ever just came out on PC and consoles weren't a thing.

But Nintendo makes good games that I want to play, and I can only play them on their consoles or handhelds. I'm quite happy buying these things too, because the one thing that the PC isn't very good at is hosting local vidya sessions with friends.

My Wii U is mainly for local multiplayer with buddies, while the 3DS is for road trips and shit.
I can't use my PC in those situations.
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>>323553340
The Wii U port of Deus Ex Human Revolution is pretty good
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>>323576716
From a normal person's perspective it's always cheaper to buy a console. Normal people have TVs already, not monitors or any of that shit.
And nobody wants to use a PC on their TV. It's even more cumbersome.
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>>323557451
Why would you do that?
Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
Do you feel no shame when you make something up and pretend its fact?
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>>323576764
Excepting computers do not exist in a limited number. There are an infinity of configuration which don't make it obvious if a game will work on them and for how long you can keep your computer without changing the graphic chip. There's no plug and play philosophy in the PC, and PC are mostly interesting for there own exclusives, and not really for "better" visual aspect of multiplats. For Multiplats only, it is better, but that's not the main advantage of a computer, especially nowadays when Multiplats tend to be rehashed shits.
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>>323577013
Yeah, but normal people are 50% retarded and 50% total faggots that don't know shit about anything.

Why would you defend your console of choice with "yeah, but uninformed, uneducated average consumers like soccer moms and children prefer it because its a little easier and for some reason they have never owned a PC before in their lives and don't have a monitor or Keyboard in their home."
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>>323576908
It didn't outsell PS2, that one was about 155mil.
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>>323577659
Because the goalpost was "people buy consoles because they're cheaper than PC".

Besides, what's retarded about not having a monitor in your home if you don't have a PC yet?
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>>323577371
>There are an infinity of configuration which don't make it obvious if a game will work on them and for how long you can keep your computer without changing the graphic chip. There's no plug and play philosophy in the PC

What the fuck do you think shit like DirectX is for?

There is absolutely a strong philosophy of decoupling software from hardware on PC. It supposed to be the graphics card manufacturers that worry about how to implement with the drivers, not so much the game developers.
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>>323564920

To be honest Nintendo's method is the only actually successful method for a console holder. Whenever people tell them to compete directly with Sony/MS it's basically telling them to create a near-unsustainable business that can only run with the help of a massive corporate structure.

Nintendo have a better chance of real success their own way even with the WiiU. As opposed to fake "lol xx million systems sold" that pretends userbase = profits.
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>>323551967
>Nothing is competing with Wii U. People buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.

This is true but the worse thing to ever happen to Nintendo is 3rd party's increase awareness of it in the last 5 years.

Say it all you want, but a successful consoles needs 3rd party support in the equation.
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>>323578463
Where does the concept of low config, mid configs and high end pc stem from then? You are sure that Bloodborne will work as smoothly (30 fps granted) on two different PS4. Now try to play the witcher 3 on a pc built 2 years ago and one built let's say today with the same budget. The difference will be obvious. DirectX is just a tool to set up your machine, it doesn't erase the gaps between configurations.
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>>323578339
>Besides, what's retarded about not having a monitor in your home if you don't have a PC yet?
Not having a computer in 2016 is whats retarded.
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>>323579053
>2016
>computers
It's all about tablets and smartphones nowadays bro
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>>323578992

So you'd rather Bloodlborne at 30fps forever than Bloodborne at 30fps today and 60fps tomorrow because you purchased more powerful hardware?

The fact that you can run games on such disparate hardware configurations is indicative of a plug and play architecture on PC, not evidence against it.

>DirectX is just a tool to set up your machine, it doesn't erase the gaps between configurations.

Actually, it sort of does. DirectX provides developers many features enabling the runtime scaling up or down of the hardware requirements in their game.
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