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Playing pic related for the first time, about six hours in. Just rescued that insufferable Jedi cunt Bastilia and about to head over to the Cantina. Any general tips for a newcomer?

Also KOTOR thread I guess.
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>>323543407
I hope you haven't leveled much
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Don't try to be balanced. Go full Light or full Dark. The game will punish you if you don't.
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>>323543751
fuck what this guy said, if you want to RP a neutral character then do it
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>>323543407
Put points into flurry, and then master speed and stasis field when you finally unlock that stuff. You'll basically win the game because you can hit shit like 4-5 times(5-6 if you have a double bladed weapon or two in each hand).

Game is fun. Manaan best world. Highly recommend playing KotOR 2 right afterwards.
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>>323543580
I did hear something about not leveling too much until you get off Taris (Which, while we're on that happens FUCKING WHEN?) so I've not exactly excessivly grinded or anything, but I've reached level 6. Did I fuck up?

>>323543751
Good to know. Does being in the middle fuck with you gameplay-wise, story-wise, or both?

Also, while I was running around the lower city Mission and my wookie slave started to banter about grooming and stuff. Many keks were had, and I'd like more of those bantering sessions. Do those sort of things randomly trigger with all party members?
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>>323543407
Level cap is 20, so the more you invested in your non Jedi classes, the less you can invest in Jedi classes
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>>323544105
>trying to cheat someone out of the best gear in the game
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>>323544113
Nah. Don't go above 8 and you'll be fine.
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>>323544113
If you already got Bastila you haven't much taris left, the ideal is to not level as much as you can because this is not much of a spoiler but you get to be a Jedi later and your levels are shared
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>>323544113
Yes you fucked up, if you level past 4 you will not be able to finish the game, five is absolute minimum

Try to reload a save or restart
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>>323544113
Also yes, those events trigger randomly depending on the companions and they also banter with certain NPCs
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>>323544312
don't be a cunt man
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>>323544312
Nah, it's not that extreme 6 is not too much
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>>323544312
Is this on increased difficulty or some shit? Cause on normal mode I didn't go jedi til level 8 and I blew Malak the fuck out.
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>>323544245
>implying

i just believe you shouldn't backseat game, tho he did ask for input
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>>323544113
the banter between your party members tends to be random with any of your characters. there isn't a specific predictor over when the banter will occur or not, though I will say some characters engage it more than others

also yeah don't level up too much on taris. you want to save a good majority of those levels for reasons. as a jedi, you'll gain powers based on level ups so the more you reserve those the more powers you can get. force pursuasion and domination are great cause they give you fairly strong and fun dialogue choices if you're lacking on inherent pursuasion, as well as being able to do Jedi mind tricks is sick as hell.
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>>323543751
>>323544245
Spoilers
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>>323544569
man, what a spoiler

you get cool gear based on alignment

I can never play this 2003 game now that I know this
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>Playing KOTOR 2
>Restoration mod installed
>At one point a cutscene triggers on the Ebon Hawk
>T3 is rolling around the main area
>Kreia walks in and fucking fries him with force lightning
>"BETRAYAL"
>No explanation is ever given, neither one of them says shit when I talk to them
>mfw
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>>323543407
You play as revan
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>>323544679
I came to this thread because I was thinking about playing this game having bought in a humble bundle awhile back, but after reading this, now I'm not. thanks /v/
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>>323544679
Dropped
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>>323544834
Its your loss, not mine.
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>>323544795
You can ask her about it and she tells you that she hates droids
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>>323543407
Don't treat the entire game as a single story. Treat each planet as its own story with a broader overarching plot. Kinda like watching a bunch of movies in a series. Enjoy each movie individually instead of trying to marathon through all of them. Every planet has its own self-enclosed plotlines and it's better to experience them for what they are instead of rushing through because you're more concerned about what will happen later. It's a fairly long game and you'll get bored quickly if you do that.

It's generally recommended you go to Tatooine and Kashyyk first because you get your last party members there. It's also recommended you do Korriban last for plot reasons but it's not required. Going to Manaan after Kashyyk will unlock a rather lengthy sidequest. Rotate your party members frequently instead of using the same ones, and talk to your party often.
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>>323543407
The game opens with the player's character—the player can choose a face and be male or female (canonically a male[5])—awakening aboard the Republic ship, Endar Spire, which is under attack by Malak's forces. The player's character gradually gathers companions and pieces together their past while attempting to stop Malak. While taking refuge at the Jedi Academy on Dantooine, the player's character learns to be a Jedi, discovers a "Star Map", and learns of the "Star Forge", the probable source of Malak's military resources. The player's character and their companions search planets across the galaxy—Dantooine, Manaan, Tatooine, Kashyyyk, and Korriban—for more information about the Star Forge. Through the course of their travels, the player will eventually discover their character's true identity - the brainwashed Darth Revan, whom the Jedi Council on Dantooine took in and subjected to memory modification so that he would no longer be a threat to the galaxy. Darth Revan had been injured when attacking a Republic planet because Darth Malak turned his guns on his former master. Because Bastila Shan was aboard Revan's ship with a Jedi strike force, she was able to heal him and bring him to the Jedi Council on Dantooine. Her actions lead to the force bond between her and Revan, which plays a role later in the game.
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>>323545023
Pffft. Does she tell you why? Atton hates droids but he didn't go around sheeving T3.
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>>323545309
if this is supposed to be a spoiler you should shorten it and only include important story bits
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>>323543407
Don't worry anon, by the end of Dantooine Bastilla will be begging you for sex.
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>>323545443
still would be a big ass wall of text, it's just there incase you get curious. this is kotor general thread I thought? anyone who doesn't know the story and doesn't want to play old game can now take a minute and get great story fast
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>>323544245
>he'll have it for 5-10 minutes for the boss battle... that's it
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>>323544918
no, but the time you took to reply to me was.
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>>323544795

OP here, somebody clue me into what the restoration mod for KOTOR 2 is? I hear it restores a bunch of cut content to the base game. Is it worth it? I'm guessing that it's like half-finished stuff left in the code that somebody modded back in, but how half-assed is the content itself? NPCs with half-voiced lines, missing textures, bunch of fetch quests? It just seems weird to me that there would be a significant amount of worthwhile content that the devs had basically finished but never bothered using.

>>323545562

Nobody told me there were waifus. Pleasant surprise. Can I romance more than one lr do I need to make my pick and stick with it?
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>>323546868
Bastilla and Carth are your only options and they're based on your gender. No, you can't romance the qt Twi'lek or the catgirl.

The reason why the restored content mod for KOTOR 2 is so significant is because the development for that game was severely rushed. LucasArts basically told Obsidian to have it out by Christmas, which means a ton of actual storyline content got cut. It's not like KOTOR 1 where it's a finished game and the only cut content is because the devs thought it was shit or LucasArts wouldn't allow it (lesbian romance option). In most cased, the restored content in 2 is stuff that was fully workable content, fully voice-acted and animated, just shelved because they didn't have time to polish it.
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>>323547279
>LucasArts wouldn't allow it (lesbian romance option)
Bastards.
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>>323547432
There's a mod
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>>323547470
Is it a restored content mod or do they just switch genders of the MC? I don't know, I just played the second one. I'm about to start Kotor 1.
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>>323547279
I thought you could go full lesbo with the cat.
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>>323547668
It was cut because Lucas doesn't like gays in space. There's a mod that restores it.
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How old are Juhani and Revan? Juhani is probably 10 or so years younger than Revan, I never thought about this.
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>>323547707
I wonder what he thinks about the unnamed gay character from the newest movie.
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Just enjoy and then do play the sequel with the restoration mod slapped on.

The sequel is vastly superior, btw.
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Female Revan should be canon because it makes Carth better
Male Exile should be canon because of Handmaiden and better chemistry with Kreia.
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>>323548094
Revan can be either gender.

Exile should definitely have been male. It's crazy that the actual game itself is outright better in every way when you play as a male.
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>>323548302
It feels like they added a female option as a second thought.
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>>323548094
I actually agree. I really enjoyed Female Revan plus Carth.

Male Revan and Bastila just did nothing for me.


I hated Kreia so neither gender exile was able to help that.
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>>323548094
>Female Revan should be canon because it makes Carth better
Carth is shit, anyway.
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>>323548094
>Male Exile
>That romantic tension between you and Atris
>She went nuts because you wouldn't give her the D
>Blowing her the fuck out when you meet her for the first time on Telos
This pleases Jedi Jesus
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>>323547279

Neat, I'll grab the restoration mod when I get to 2. Is it compatible with the Steam version?
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>>323549881
The Steam Version has Workshop support and RCM is the top thing on the Workshop.

Steam version also has numerous improvements over the original release, like better resolution support (up to 4k), the ability to disable force speed effects, and more.

Make sure to still save often though. The game has an unfixable bug that sometimes causes dialogue to all be skipped at lightspeed if you've been playing for a while. It's something wrong the engine itself. Just save really really often and reload if it happens.
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>>323549881
KOTOR 2 is connected to the steam workshop now, you can download TSLRCM from there friendo
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I wanna fuck Visas
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>>323549112
>you will never sling dick so well that you turn a bitch to the dark side
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>>323544113
>I've reached level 6. Did I fuck up?

No. The game is easy. No need to minimax anything.
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>>323549881
The mod on the workshop by itself works fine, but don't download anything else because installing many mods from the workshop can make your game crash last time I tried it. Also you really don't need anything else for your first run
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>>323543407
Yeah here's a tip
PLAY THE FUCKING GAME YOURSELF
enjoy
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>>323543407
fuck I'm replaying this since the first time in over a decade. Holy shit I was a retard. I'm just realizing what half the shit I was doing meant.
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>>323544795
I personally still don't understand
>Revan liked to use droid
>GODDAMN IT REVAN, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU STILL USE DROIDS EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT THERE?
I mean, uh, okay?
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>>323550035
NEver had that bug happen to me in hundreds of hours
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>>323550284
Good taste
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>>323544795

>No explanation is ever given, neither one of them says shit when I talk to them

Are you serious?

You literally have to have a conversation with T3 about his previous master, unlock it with influence of course, and what happened and where he went.

Hence, Kreia's reaction to that is that she thinks T3 betrayed Revan.
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>>323548740
But he can trust you in he can possibly put his dick in you. The banter is alright too.
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>2016
>playing non-canon shit
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>>323551867
It happens to me from time to time.
The most annoying is the top the bottom border bug which is fullscreen and reduces to what it normally should be VERY VERY slowly, making the first text unreadable but is immediately fixed at the second text.
No clue if anyone has had this issue.
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>>323547756
>How old are Juhani and Revan?
Revan 25-35 years.
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>>323543407
>Any general tips for a newcomer?

Talk to all your party members constantly if you ever want to get all the story.
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>>323551952
But how did T3 betray Revan? T3 is obviously still loyal to Revan.
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>>323552036
>implying someone cares about SW "canon"
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INSUFFERABLE CUNT? YOU SWORE AN OATH TO PROTECT BASTILA!
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>>323552128
What a joke. The only party member worth of interest is Canderous and Jolee.
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>>323552036
As long as it's fun and enjoyable I don't care.
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>>323552150

That's not how Kreia sees it.

She just plain doesn't like droids.

From my point of view, the younglings are evil!
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>>323547279
actually you still can slightly romance Juhani
also they managed to sneak some lesbian shit in it, if you killed Juhani in Dantooine instead of recruiting her, her lesbian jedi friend in Dantooine will join up the Sith in Korriban
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>>323552324
I still don't see how T3 betrayed Revan or how Kreia sees it.
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>>323543407
be sure to not level over 3-6, depending on your starting class
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>>323553001

Gas yourself, you stupid cunt.
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So I keep trying to play this game, but the beginning part on the first planet is putting me off.

How much better does it get?
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>>323544312
you sound like a complete dick.
my first playthrough i leveled up to 6 i think, skipped tons of quests later and finished the game at like lvl 17 or some shit like that.
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>>323552601
I love the Jedi Council's response if you kill her
>why did you kill her?!!!
>uh, well, she gave me no choice. Y-yeah.
>okay, fine whatever, here's your lightsaber, you're a padwan now, fuck off
It's insane. They let someone have complete control over another person's life and don't hold you accountable because of their vagueness. Oh just go over to this location and you'll do 'something'. That something being killing that stupid Sith girl who just lashed out at her master for being randomly angry.
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>>323553069
>>323543407
Its an easy game, he doesnt need to min/max.

I always finished Taris at 8 as a soldier and my fight against Malak at the end was literally pressing the attack button and letting my auto-attack kill him.

Just dont put points into worthless shit like
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>>323553120
A lot. The game starts off pretty slow, but once you leave Dantooine, it picks up really quickly
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Threadly reminder of who kreia really is
http://lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/Update%2058/
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>>323553241
>They let someone have complete control over another person's life and don't hold you accountable because of their vaguenes
sounds like a Jedi council, all right
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>>323553241

>The former Dark Lord of the Sith standing before them, covered in blood, breathing heavily and with obvious sexual arousal at his actions
>Already since beginning his journey he's killed dozens if not hundreds of people, slaughtered countless innocent civilians, caused an outright civil war on Dantooine right outside the Enclave, outright jumped at the chance to murder a fallen Padawan, and ruined a dance audition on purpose
>Now, Apprentice, do you vow to uphold the Jedi Code and protect the innocent of the galaxy from the destruction brought by the Sith
>[Lie] Yes, I swear.

Honestly they've had better judgement calls. I know it's because of Bioware plot railroading, but it really hurts the Jedi Masters' competence when they act so incredibly trusting towards the person who at that point is probably the biggest cunt in the whole galaxy.
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>>323553698
To be fair though, they really had no better option or choice. They took a huuuge gamble.
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the ending is pretty weak desu
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>>323547432
there's a difference between "not allowing" and just simply not including it since romances doesn't matter.
romances in rpg's was the worst idea ever and whoever was behind it, should get bitchslapped, hard.
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>>323553420
bit of a stretch desu senpai
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>>323553698
i like how you included "ruined a dance audition on purpose" to the mix, cause it really is serious compared to the other stuff.
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>>323554117
how so?
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>>323554117
>stretch
It's painfully obvious if you actually pay attention to the dialogue. Or did you think the game just kept mentioning some nobody jedi for no reason over and over again?
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>>323554217
It's evil as fuck.
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Are there any non piss ugly head replacements for males?

I don't know why autists want a PC with a goatee and i really don't know why other autists rate it highest mod
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>>323554217

Man, you don't understand. I ran in fucking circles around her. The poor girl didn't stand a chance of making her dream. I had to go commit a couple of atrocities after that - assassinating Gadon, working as a hitman for Davik, selling the Promised Land books to Rukil for pennies - just to take the edge off and make me feel a bit less evil.
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>>323554263
>>323554315
If it were true, why wouldn't it have been revealed at the end as an ESB-esque grand reveal intended to shock? Or at least shock people in the same subtle way as when she referred to Mandalore as Canderous?
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>>323548094
and yet its the opposite
gg bioware
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>>323554443
>I ran in fucking circles around her.
The absolute fucking madman. Jesus fuck.
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>>323554607
Because it's a neat little reward the player can pick up if he actually analyzes what is said to him instead of clicking past all the talky bits. Besides, what would exactly be the impact? It's just a simple name, nothing more.
Perhaps you were expecting some surprise, for me to reveal a secret that had eluded you, something that would change your perspective of events, shatter you to your core. There is no great revelation, no great secret. There is only you.
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>>323554957
Fuck off Kreia I never liked you anyway
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>>323555049
>You will do what you are told because I am your mother, got it?
But honestly, if you play with the Restored content, the twist that Kreia hates the Force itself, bringing balance like Jolee says in Kotor 1, is a good ending twist in of itself.
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>>323548302
Both Revan and Exile are males.
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So really, if one were to destroy all the Jedi and Sith then destroy all their history and knowledge, would it destroy the Force and stop wars?

Kreia says no but I don't see how it's possible.
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>>323555469
Kreia is a stupid cunt who blames everyone but herself.
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>>323555393
Exile is canonically female.
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>>323555648
Why would she take any blame for being right?
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>>323555648
actually she wants you be an individual neither sith or jedi because they both have problems it is actually smart writing
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>>323555469

Kreia is fucking retarded.

>hurr I got raped
>the force is EEEEEVIL
>don't fall for them jedi mind tricks
>sith suck
>look at me being a sith and using the force to prove my point

Just fucking stop using it and go live on a shitty planet.
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>>323555858

read this
>>323555849
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>>323553990
rpg = Romance Playing Game
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>>323555858
>hurr I got raped
>implying implication of indignities

I still personally think that Sion taking Kreia by the face and slamming her head was too brutal and too realistic for Star Wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzBgnzwBv7I
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>>323555654
Nope. They made Exile female only because of bitching.

>>323555732
>>323555849
This type of writing has no place in black and white Star Wars universe.
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>>323555952

No, she wants you to get strong and then use you to wreck the force. And she has no fucking issues with you going full jedi/sith to gain that strength.

It's not good writing. She'll admonish you for absolutely everything, no matter how neutral you stay.
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>>323556129
>Nope. They made Exile female only because of bitching.
she's still canonly female anon
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>>323556167
You can't destroy the Force so you're wrong.
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When can I get the next armor upgrade?
About to go to Manaan and still in dark jedi robes.
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>>323556323
Jedi Jesus is still the best
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>>323557150
>why put christian symbolism when you can just fucking play as Jesus himself
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>>323543407
it took you six hours to get to bastila??
Well, at least you'll be squeezing entertainment for weeks until you pass the game
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Does Dxun/Onderon become more interesting as I go on?

I just finished Nar Shaddaa, which was kind of tedious to be honest. Just made it to the Mandalorian Camp, and I'm already getting a similar vibe here.
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>>323556323
Not anymore.
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>>323557508
Yes. You return to Onderon near the end.
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>>323557508
dxun is prolly the worst planet in both kotors so no, onderon isn't good either
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>>323557625
canon to the Legends universe anon :)
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http://www.aspyr.com/games/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii-the-sith-lords

Help get Kotor 2 on iOS for travel fags
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>>323557769
Really? It was always one of my favorites.
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>>323557856
Only if it comes with the TSLRCM
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>>323556129
To be fair Exile being a woman makes Sion's stuff a little bit more tangible and interesting.
A Sith not understanding romantic feelings and admiration for someone is more interesting than 'Oooh, I'm coming to gitchu faggit' which you get for male Exiles.

Also feXile convincing him to let himself die made more sense because of that.
You do miss out on Atris's sweaty palms though.
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>>323553990
>bitchslapped
Not even a feminist but come on, its 2016
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>>323557867
really?
it's like the manaan of kotor 2, except worse in my opinion. the whole moon is about doing random quests for mandalorians, felt like i was playing an mmorpg
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>>323556323
Which would imply that Atris was lesbian which is bullshit. Both Exile and Revan are males.
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>>323557769
Definitely the worst in kotor 1. Since it didn't exist.
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>>323558249
are you seriously complaining about using the word "bitchslap"? come on, it's 2016, you shouldn't get a hissy fit from a word on an imageboard
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>>323558347
Nope. Exile was female when it was canon
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>>323558323
Well, I liked Manaan too so maybe I just have a shit taste.
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>>323558479
Manaan was goat. Only autists that need battle constantly hated it. It set the tone for a war, showing the tensions of the common folk
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>>323558479
that or different taste, you pick.
>>323558390
yes, cause obviously i didn't mean that it was the worst planet out of the planets that you go to in either kotor 1 or 2.
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>>323558616
>tensions of common folk
>almost like 80% of the people there are sith/republic
>the only good quest in the planet is the sunry trial quest which is, again,sith/republic
yeah ok
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>>323558793
>soldiers aren't common folk in war
What other planet showed you both sides of the war in a better way then?
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>>323559152
Malachor V
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>>323559304
>Malachor V
What version did you play where it was fully fleshed out and not rushed?
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>Atton constantly thinking of anal with a young Kreia
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>>323559672
>Atton
>thinking at all
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>>323550609
if you installed mod from places other than workshop it may cause crashes, because workshop doesnt install into root meny -> override, but rather an own folder that can be tricky to locate, especially if you didn't know about it
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>>323553001
>>323553087
She doesn't think t3 betrayed revan, she thought revan betrayed her with his love for machines. She hates droids because she can't read/manipulate them, and she hates t3 because Revan cherised him. Kreia is a jealous cunt, and hates when there are factors she can't control. Kreia: His love for such things defy me" when talking about droids.
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>>323559152
i was actually thinking of civilans as common folk and soldiers as soldiers.
anyways, i don't think any planet, including manaan, showed both sides of war. it's been a long time since i played kotor but manaan was mostly just the trial,greed for kolto and petty bickering between sith/republic soldiers.
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>>323554443
>tfw nerdy white kid
>tfw I thought running around her in circles would actually work
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>>323544795
Came here to ask about KOTOR 2 and the restored content mod.

I quite enjoyed KOTOR back in the day, is 2 worth getting and is the restored content mod actually decent or is it a case of 'there's a reason devs cut this shit' and it's implemented in a very amateurish way?
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>>323561056

2 is a completely different beast from 1, and much better written. The RCM is not just decent, it fully rounds off the game. KOTOR 2 had a hideous amount of cut content, and most of it was cut because they were rushed and couldn't finish everything, not because it was bad. There's one exception - the Droid Planet, which is legitimately 'there's a reason devs cut this shit' but the people who made the RCM helpfully put that part in a different install, so it's optional whether you want to suffer through it or not.
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>>323561226
Awesome, thanks for the quick response. How much cut content are we talking about here? Like, 20% more game length? Does it increase level caps if there is one (guessing cap is 20 like first game)
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>>323561315
The cap is like 50 in vanilla KotOR 2 so the mod had no reason to fiddle with it as I believe you can't even get enough XP in the whole game to reach the level cap.

It adds a lot of dialogue, finishes HK-47's story and makes the ending more coherent.
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>>323561315

Even in the original KOTOR 2, the level cap is 50 - but that's so high you'll never reasonably reach it unless you use the EXP glitch.

How much cut content? About this much.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_content_from_Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_II:_The_Sith_Lords

tl;dr multiple plot points including endings for each character, tons of dialogue, almost the ENTIRE last planet and ending, the list goes on.
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It's been awhile since I've played Kotor 1, but why was Jolee supposed to be a "gray" jedi again?
He seemed pretty light side oriented anyway
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>>323561776
Because he left the Jedi Order and got married or something like that.
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>>323561776
Because he was pragmatic about what parts of the Jedi code he followed, and didn't go full retard in either direction
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>>323561661
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_content_from_Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic_II:_The_Sith_Lords

Holy. Fuck.

Really makes you sad to realise that companies ultimately care more about the bottom line than making the best game they can. I suppose it's always going to be a compromise of time/content but this is just nuts. Glad to hear that the RCM is able to get the game close to what it should have been.
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>>323562146
Meh, it's like when you were a kid and you had this really really great idea for a project, spend so much time on it and it wasn't enough and only got a C- because you ran out of time.
A for effort doesn't mean much.
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>>323562508
Except that the kid in this scenario could say 'fuck you teacher, you'll get the project when it's done nigger'.

Maybe he gets a detention, but that teacher is going to remember that project as the best fucking project they've ever seen from a student.

Even 60 years later, when the teacher is incontinent in a care home and even the student has retired, they'll think 'shit, that project was fucking dope. Anyway, I hope this bell still works because I just done soiled my pants'
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>>323563065
>'fuck you teacher, you'll get the project when it's done nigger'
Then you get an F or ask for an extension, but then you have asshole teachers who refuse to give extensions and you're fucked.
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>>323561661
>Obsidian Entertainment also petitioned to LucasArts themselves for a Content Patch which would restore the content, though LucasArts denied the request.

fu lucas arts ;..;
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>>323551994
>But he can trust you in he can possibly put his dick in you.
Biodrone detected.
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>>323545321

She tells that is because Revan liked to be surrounded by droinds.
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>>323563572
How does that even make sense?
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>>323561315
> How much cut content are we talking about here? Like, 20% more game length?

it's not about the lenght of the game but about understanding what's happening. Most of the cut content were cutscenes and conversations with characters explaining the whole plot of the game and how it was connected to the previous game (and it's characters).

Withouth the RCM the game suddently just ends and you don't know what the fuck happent. With the RCM you understand the whole travel and how it is related to what Revan did before and after KOTOR1.
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>>323544113
For the first playthrough I levelled up normally. No problem there, it's piss easy.
On the 2nd and later, no higher than lvl2.
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>>323565656
When you say you didn't level higher than 2, do you mean you didn't click 'level up', but were still able to kill stuff for XP that you kind of keep in a bank for when you go jedi, so you can level straight to 9 or whatever?
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>>323565974
Yes.
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>>323565974

Not the same anon but, yes.
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How is the mobile port of this game? I've never played it before, and being able to do so on my phone sounds pretty sweet.
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>>323544447
Treight-tor
Not treightr. What is this shit
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>>323566130
>>323566164
So when I selected 'auto level up' and managed to get to level 8 before leaving taris, I basically fucked up?

Do I scrap the 7 hours I just spent and redo or what?
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>>323543407
Corrupt her.
I love fucking turning her evil.
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>>323566543

You NEVER choose "Auto level up" on a RPG game dude. You totally fucked up.
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>>323566543
It's easy enough you don't need to minmax.

You'll probably want to do at least two runs though (one light one dark) so just keep it in mind for your next run.
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>>323565974
Yeah, I didn't click level up after 2 (it was required from what remember, but I may be wrong, it was years ago). It made Taris harder towards the end, but the rest was easy.
>>323566543
Fucked up? No, not really. As in >>323565656
>For the first playthrough I levelled up normally. No problem there, it's piss easy.
It's harder when starting Jedi on 8+, but not so much.
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>>323566543

You can keep with the same save game but dude turn off this Auto LVL up or it will fuck up your jedi powers.
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>>323566638
>>323566829
>>323566891
>>323567065
Thanks for the feedback guys. Not sure why they'd even include such a feature if it's essentially a 'just fuck my shit up senpai' setting.
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>>323567727
Its more for characters you dont care about or understand.

For example, I dont enjoy magic in games. So in DAO, I generally used the Auto-level for mages because I dont enjoy magic so I never looked into it.

In KotoR I used it to level T3 and Mission and thats it. Everyone else I would level personally to make sure I pick actually useful talents.
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>>323566376
I've only heard praise for the mobile version
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>>323543407

Stop playing it, since it's not canon.
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>>323567727

You just have to see what the auto level did to your character and play having it on mind.

>>323568117

This. I use it for characters that I know the game will min/max better than I like the droids or canderous (usually the "blaster" users). With the jedi it's more tricky as you probably want to compensate your characters and the game will choose the same fucking force powers for each one.
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Any tips for going through Taris without leveling? I've played the game like 6 times but I've always leveled as soon as it's available. Spam grenades? Actually use mines?
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Why are the Steam Achievements for KOTOR2 so broken?
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>>323568524
Spam grenades, mines, stims, shields, all of those consumable items that might as well not exist once you finish Taris/Dantooine. Don't do the arena fights.
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>>323568889
>Don't do the arena fights.
Why not?
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>>323569079
Its possible, but difficult to do the arena fights as a soldier at level 5, its idiocy/mostly impossible to do them with anyone else, excluding the fights before the blonde.
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>>323569079
Because they have your character by yourself, which makes the fights extremely hard if you're not leveling. The first few might be doable with sufficient item usage, but there's really no point doing them.
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>>323569256

It's not very difficult to beat the arena (Bendak included) even at level 2 Scoundrel/Consular build (aka shit tier). Grenades are your friends. Sonic grenades for debuffs, conc grenades for stuns, plasma grenades for damage. Add on to that the huge amount of medpacs/energy shields the game shits all over you during Taris, and the numerous ways to abuse the AI with mines, and you've got a recipe to coast right through if you buy enough items.
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>>323566543
can you post what attributes your char has? i think you fucked up dude, specially if you choose consular jedi, i wouldn't recommend that in this play anymore, go guardian, they need less force points and powers. Hope you picked the soldier rol that is.
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>>323569309

>no point doing them.

Yeah man getting two of the best blaster in the game (with the glitch) isn't worth ten minutes of tedious one-on-one fights at all.
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>>323569487
L2 scoundrel/scout will get gunned the fuck down by bendak, unless you never use consumables during an action round and have an advanced knowledge of dodging/the system. Frankly, I'm not sure how a L2 player could hope to beat or even hit marv or ice.
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>>323569256
abuse the shit of grenades and all usuable items, hoard them and abuse them to fight the couple hard battles there are in taris. that way you can be low level and beat it.
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>>323569575
If you're playing Kotor 1 for the blasters, you're doing it wrong. Kotor 2 is where the gun kata death god action is at.
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>>323569683
Not worth the effort IMO, especially for a new player.
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>tfw no kotor 3 made by obsidian
>tfw there's no chance ea would let them make one
>tfw ea gives bioware kotor 3

Life is suffering.
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>>323570356
Pillars of Eternity sucked, though.
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>>323570468
Well that's mainly because they were trying to make up their own shit instead of following guide lines
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>>323569673

Pop energy shields in the moment you get at the start of the fight before you pull aggro. Always go into the menu to heal, never use up one of your combat actions for it. Just by using the menu you make it almost impossible for anyone to kill you, since they have to one-shot you. And if you can't die, that simply means that you can throw grenades until you win. Bendak goes down hard to plasma grenades, especially if you can sneak a conc grenade past his saves first (quite hard, but you can savescum for it if that's your thing). I mean yeah sure, if you went for a straight shootout you wouldn't stand a chance. But this is really the only fight in the game (arguably Gadon and his bodyguard count too, since you're in that tiny ass room) where the grenades are necessary, so you might as well blow your load on him.

>>323569776

More for HK-47 than anything. Two Bendak's Blasters plus his upgrades turn him into a murder hurricane that kills most things on the first shot before they even catch aggro and turn to face him.
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>>323570356
But we already got KOTOR 3-10
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>>323570356

SWTOR: Knights of the Fallen Empire is surprisingly good for a Bioware game. It even has the classic KOTOR conversations during the "forge alliances" part.
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>>323570561

Anon I can't imagine HK47 withouth a big fucking rifle.
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I just got the last Star Map. How much longer does it take?
I miss Bastila ;_;
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>>323543407
Fuck you Bastilia is Waifu teir
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>>323571440
One more planet, then the Star Forge itself.
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>>323571440
One pacebreaker of a planet left.
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>>323571440

The best planet.
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>>323569673
as a 2/18 scounsular i switched to easy for bendak
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>>323550284
>QT voiced by Kelly Hu vs QT voiced by Grey Delisle
You are tearing me apart, Obsidian
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>>323554217
Murder, Arson and Jaywalking.
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>>323554689
>I'll try spinning, that's a good trick
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>>323543407
im playing this on my ipad, am i an idiot?
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I still love how by the end of #2 with Enlightment, Storm and Insanity on Jedi Master you just go through everything with even Sion being unable to land a hit
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>>323553698
Its not that they trusted you, they didn't, they were just trying to manipulate you with their jedi lies that you btw swallowed completely.
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>>323572671
i tried my hardest to stick to just LS powers. i really did.
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Why are Mandalorians Aussies?
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>>323572845
I didn't. My JM was 100% light, and yet was electrocuting to death everything that was dumb enough to turn aggro. These were the fun times.
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>>323543407
>Side with Vaklu because the republic can fuck itself
>Forced to act like an edgy sith lord
I'm mad
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>>323572845

At those levels force wind will kill everything in your path and stun the ones who didn't die.
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>>323572671
>mfw Jek Jek Tar and Trayus as a minmaxed Guardian/Weapon Master
>mfw enlightenment + Juyo + Power Attack/Critical Strike
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>>323573989
yeah but that's still a turn or two more than force storming
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I think I actually like the first kotor more. Kotor 2 is so frustrating with shit like having to find pieces of HK47, the wookie vs Mira, Handmaiden vs the guy, it's like I'm missing out on content.
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>tfw these threads reminded me how much I liked Kotor
>tfw my old man was looking for new RPGs to play on his old laptop/iPad

>tfw want to talk about games with him but avoiding spoilers is like tapdancing through a minefield
"EVERYTHING IS SIGNIFICANT BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY"
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>>323574401
>>323574401
pretty sure we all like kotor 1 more than 2. I just all the story and all the characters, except mission, but you can force choke her to death or make the wookie strangle her, so its ok.
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>>323543407
Is kotor 1 worth playing even if i know the tweest?
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>>323574604
yes, you can see it from a mile away anyhow the first time you play.
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I remember my first time playing, Malachor bugged out on me and had to play through trayus academy as a shittily built Mira.
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>>323574653
I'm so glad I was like 10 years old back then and didn't really know how to tell that a twist is coming.
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>>323574653

Well...I didn't But I'm so bad at seeing twist coming...
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Just finished the first game, and I was incredibly disappointed with it.
Most of the characters did absolutely nothing for me, the writing was pretty awful too.
Does Bioware not know how to do shades of grey regarding alignment?
It seems like every encounter where the game gives you a choice between good or bad you are forced to choose either one of two extremes. goody two shoes, or evil for no reason. This became especially annoying near the end game where it was at its worst.
I am seriously hoping Kotor2 will do at least a bit better in this regard.
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>>323575784
>Does Bioware not know how to do shades of grey regarding alignment?
It has no place in SW universe.
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>>323575784
>Does Bioware not know how to do shades of grey regarding alignment?
>It seems like every encounter where the game gives you a choice between good or bad you are forced to choose either one of two extremes. goody two shoes, or evil for no reason. This became especially annoying near the end game where it was at its worst.

Apathy is death
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>>323557462
Taris takes forever to 100%. It's not bad as the mining station, but it still takes a healthy chunk of the game
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>>323575968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r63CsrHZGR8
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>>323575784
>I am seriously hoping Kotor2 will do at least a bit better in this regard.

Oh dude you are in for a ride.

>Land in Nar Shadda
>1st fucking cutscene
>Help the dude
>Kreia: "You are an idiot"
>Don't help the dude
>Kreia: "You sadistic bastard"
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>>323575875
Even Sheev knew a time and a place to be devilish, and Vader clearly cared about his Son, despite being evil.

The worst offender is the dark side path on Rakata. There was no option to spare your friends because of your priory affection, try talking them round, or even regretfully killing them, you just provoke them in cartoonishly evil ways and kill them for the lulz when they inevitably reject you.
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>all these KOTOR threads
This is why i love /v/
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>>323544795
It happens after you get enough influence with T3 and see the Carth/Bastilla message about Revan. T3 will then tell you his former master was Revan and where he went.

Kreia, who was trying to keep that hidden from you and is a bit of a control freak in regards to what information she wants you to know and when, gets pissed and lashes out at T3 over it. Her bitching about Revan and droids is just Kreia being a salty cunt.
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>>323575784
Could not even finish the first game because of it. [Spoiler] Got to Bastilla and was given the choice to either murder my entire crew, or talk about how great the light is and how I cant stop sucking Jedi Dick. [/spoiler] I get that every other character in the game is a retard, but I would have hoped at least the PC could be reasonable.
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>>323576629
that was just her being the doubles advocate
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>>323576629
My worst fears have been realized. although it is clear to me, after only 2 hours or so, that Kreia is a cunt.
>>323576697
This was what disappointed me the most, and left a sour taste after what was mostly a good game.
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>"Senoir~ I have been robbed blind by the evil of this city. Could you find it ein your heart to spare a few credits to help me eat for the night?"
"Sure. I think I have som-"
>>"Don't give him those credits. Credits not earned through honest work and labor will only bring about more misfortune. Sometimes a charity can hurt just as much as a sin"
>You look at Kreia's "Can't stump the Trump" t-shirt over her robes
>"Please ma'am, I-"
>>"Go back to your drug planet Jose!"
"..."
>>"He's going to make the Republic great again!"

Am I the only one who thinks Kreia would be a Trump voter?
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>>323576809
Yes. that was exactly what I was talking about. the entire ending to the Rakata sequence retroactively ruined m y enjoyment of the game.
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>>323577072
Stop crying about grey options, its an incredible game, one of the best of his time. You are given more choice than just good or bad except in the end of the game. Thats 2 endings, one more than most games, stop complaining so much really. besides a neutral ending would had suck.
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>>323577424
I can't even imagine the game having a neutral ending. What would happen?
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>>323577590
Not him, but I was thinking about it right now as well and honestly can't think of any non-dumb neutral ending that would satisfy me.
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>>323577424

Why should I refuse to acknowledge something that I think was done poorly? I'm sorry if discussion triggers you but criticism is natural for any game and should not be dismissed just because people think that having a negative opinion is evil
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>>323577424

KOTOR2 doesn't have a "gray" ending because Kreia forces your hand to choose between 2 options. The 3rd option was just dying as she would have stabbed herself.
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I played through KOTOR a ton of times on original Xbox.

Any cool mods for it now? I have had the star wars collection from GOG for a while now and I wanna play again.
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>>323577137
She's telling you to play the long game.
Good or evil, she doesn't give a damn, just think about the repercussions of your actions.
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>>323547432
Lesbians are awful anon, you didn't lose anything.
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>>323577072

The whole point of KOTOR2 is that you can be a sith withouth being a sadistic edgelord bastard and can be a jedi withouth being fucking retarded. She only wants you to choose your actions thinking on the consequences of them. Don't kill because "lol", don't help with no reason. Everything you do must have a "why" behind it.
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>>323578193
The best mods for KOTOR 1 are any graphical updates, along with the one that restores the Juhani romance if you're into that. The rest of the cut content in 1 was cut because it sucked, not because they had to rush the game's release.

The widescreen mod can be really finicky.
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>>323578132
read this
>>323578159
Also you just finalized One play through of an old game that i have finished about 20 times, don't give me lectures with your unfounded comments about a game you have barely played.
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>>323577424
It's more that in kotor 1, your dialogue options are relegated to sucking Jedi dick and masturbating over how great the light is, or being Snidley Whiplash and cackling as you murder innocents.

In kotor 2, even when you were railroaded into being dark or light in some convos, you could at least go about it in different ways. You could be dark side just in the sense that you wanted revenge on the Jedi who exiled you, without being cartoonishly evil. Likewise you could play a light side character who acknowledged the Jedi are cunts and they were wrong about the Mandalorian Wars. Or you could be a psychopath/fill your mouth with Jedi cock if you wanted to. The point was you had more options in how to RP your character's morality.
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>>323556129
>Nope. They made Exile female only because of bitching.

And no one cared, because it's still the canon exile.
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>>323578390
>don't give me lectures with your unfounded comments about a game you have barely played.


Dude what? I have the KOTOR2 box for PC since it was released. i played this game at least once every year.
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I'm on my first playthrough right now. How did you guys beat Darth Bandon?
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>>323578576
Master Flurry + Master Speed + two lightsabers, same as everything else
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>>323578576
Choke + shields
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>>323578576
>n3v3r 4g3t
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>>323578516
You can't play a canon Exile without mods, because canonically she traveled with Handmaiden, not Disciple.
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>every 2 or 3 years i replay kotor as light side
>during each playthrough i tell myself im going to replay it immediately as dark side to see other side of coin
>never do because don't want to kill my vidya friends for no reason on Rakata

Why couldn't you dump mission and the others on a planet somewhere first and have a comfy guilt free sith empire?
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>>323578765
At least the dark side path in K1 makes sense, and it's satisfying to fuck over the Jedis' plan.

The dark side path in K2 makes no sense, because the backstory is that the Exile is special for being the only Jedi who followed Revan and didn't turn DS. So dark side path's "lol jk, actually evil" is dumb as hell.
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>>323578765

Even when I first played KOTOR I was pissed off that you couldn't just turn your companions to the Dark Side. Okay, maybe not Carth, but the rest should have been doable.

At least KOTOR 2 allowed me to do exactly that.
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>>323578765

You think this is a pain?

>Every year I replay the Mass Effect trilogy
>During each playthrought i tell myself "I'm going to do everything diferent"
>After 6 playthroughts:
>Still can't kill Wrex on ME1
>Still can't shoot Mordin on ME3
>Still can't fuck up Tali's trial on ME2
>Still can't kill Legion on ME3
>Still can't let Samara get heroe'd by herself
>Still can't choose the green ending because it fucking sucks

My fucking vidya friends...I just can't.
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>>323579281
Reminder that Newfag Bastila causes this

she just blatantly says they're dark side now with the grace of an avalanche. If you had been able to tell her to shut the fuck up, you could subtly change everything abut your followers.
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>>323579281
>but the rest should have been doable.
Nop
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>>323579321
I guess we can all agree the blue ending is the best ending
But let's not derail the thread.
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>>323578363
I am only still 2 hours into Kotor2 and the things in your post are what I would have liked to see in the first game.
>>323577424
trying to shut down discussion in such a way just makes you seem like a fanboy. you are right in a way, you are indeed given some "grey" options, but for all the choices that matter you are completely stripped of any sort of nuanced choice. To me, this is a huge flaw in an otherwise decent game, why would I not complain about it?
And saying it has one more ending than most games does not excuse anything. I judge this game on its own, not by comparing it to others.
>>323578390
this post just confirms that you are not interested in any serious discussion. My comments, nor those of the person you responded to here, are not unfounded. We played the game. We formed an opinion. What more do we need to do to come up with "founded" comments? play it 20 times just like you? this game is not so big or deep or complicated that it needs multiple playthroughs to see it for what it is.
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>>323579281
Should have been able to turn juhani to the dark side. Not that it matters; didn't care for her that much and saw talking to her as a chore for some reason.
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>>323543407
duelling can get you money if you're not shit
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>>323579772
>>323579963
Juhani and Mission should be able to fall to the dark side. Carth, Jolee and Zaalabr no
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>God Tier
Trask
HK-47

>High Tier
Jolee
T3-M4 (2nd Game)
Visas
Canderous

>Mid Tier
Bastilla
Mission
Mandalore
Atton
Handmaiden
Hanharr

>Low Tier
T3-M4 (1st Game)
Kreia
Bao-Dur
Mira

>Shit Tier
Carth
Zaalbar
Juhani
G0-T0
Disciple


We're all on board, right?
I actually update this list based on you guy's bullshit sometimes
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>>323580349
>Juhani
Who cares.

>Mission
I don't see her getting dark.
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>>323544312
But your wrong
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>>323580439
what's wrong with zaalbar

do you not want the fat wookie dick
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>>323580439
>Bastilla not shit tier
anon pls
>G0-T0 shit tier
Just because you never talked to him doesn't make him shit tier. He actually has a pretty fantastic backstory & character.
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>>323580439
I think Kreia should be mid tier
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>>323544406
Yeah six is like standard for a first playthrough if you do everything and you do fine as a jedi unless you put feats into blasters or melee. You can probably do fine then but want to restart.
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>>323580645
He couldn't be more bland if he tried.
>muh life debt
>muh tribe

Even on his own planet he basically stands around and does nothing but complain.
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>>323580645
>look at me, I'm a wookie, everyone likes wookies, i'm shmewbacca, the copyright friendly wookie, wookie wookie wookie.
Literally no interesting traits beyond being a big hair ball of whiney bullcrap
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>>323580503
Mission could fall if you pushed on her being abbandoned by her brother and her hate for the chick who stole her brother.
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>>323580439
>Visas
>anything but Low Tier
u wot?
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>>323556167
She doesn't want to kill the force though. And she doesn't care if you're light or dark, just that you think about your actions and consider the consequences
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>>323580902
>>323580981
yeah buuut

big wookie dick

There's actually surprisingly little wookie porn, you'd think furries would have that category filled to the brim
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>>323580696
>He actually has a pretty fantastic backstory & character.

No. He just has a backstory but it's shit.

I'm a fucking droid, they gave me an order and I will accomplish this order at all cost. It's the same as the AI at the end of Mass Effect but withouth reapers to fullfill its objectives.
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>>323580439
Kreia's better than low tier, fool
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>>323570984
Why don't they always use that
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>>323580592
This is what everyone's character looked like mid game.

>kotor 1: everyone plays slickback hair face, noone plays female for the sweet bastila cooz
>kotor 2: everyone plays as jedi jesus or blonde floozy with full lips

Dont try to deny it
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>>323580439

This is so wrong I don't know where to begin...
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>>323580696
>droid, so items are garbage
>stealth based, which isn't necessary ever
>anti droid powers, but you only get him after Peragus and Nar Shadaa, which means you already beat 90% of the droid fights in the game

He's a cool character, but a waste of space on your ship. Would have been better to leave him on Nar Shadaa as an NPC, if all he has to offer is backstory.
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>>323581446
Thanks for your input, we're so glad you could join us in this thread
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>>323576697
This. People who are monsters still have family and friends. Not everyone who does morally reprehensible things is out to kill everyone. Shit, maybe the PC's motivation is to use the star forge to unite all the worlds or something? I dunno
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>>323581437
I played KOTOR at least 10 times and always chose top right. He also has the best dark side changes.
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>>323581423
The main story works like Mass Effect. The "post game" between the next chapters is like KOTOR.
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>>323581437
>implying I didn't play female for my own ass
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>>323581437
I'm not, When I first played I choose slick back hair because it looks the smoothest to me. and I play as Jedi Jesus because the first Kotr practically makes you go out of your way to kick a puppy if you want to be dark side and I'm a filthy moral fag. plus it's canon

I play like a normie and I'm proud
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Can you play TORtanic without paying or do you miss out on too much?
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>>323581873
This + the mod that allows females to romance Bastila
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>>323578692
You know what's funny? He would of died if he got to Taris anyway. Selven was on the run for killing all the Ulgo's on Taris. She would of went after him.
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>>323580645
Hanharr is much better
a batshit crazy version of hanharr with all sorts of mental problems ripe for the exploiting
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>>323581780
>Not russian for DS playthrought.
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>>323582089
Jedi Jesus refers to a male face from Kotor 2.
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>>323582096
You literally can't have more than one quickbar unless you unlock more.
On the bright side, for paying one month you unlock all the content the game at this point has forever
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>>323565656
sorry you're full of shit. you have like 10HP at level 2. it might work for awhile but you will get 1 shotted by the time you reach vulkar base if you make it there
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>>323543407
All you need to steamroll this game is a pure melee focused build with the flurry skill maxed out.

Don't listen to anyone telling you about how you shouldn't level up before you become a jedi - that shit doesn't matter at all.
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>>323582096

Can be played but if you just buy the game with the 30 free days (like 5-6 bucks last time I checked G2P) you will get all the expansions and most of the features the pure F2Players lack.
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>>323582167
I thought it was the Kotor 2 lets play.
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>>323582167
Oh lol, I thought it meant play style
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>>323544113
I just always leveled up normally on Taris and never encountered any problems whatsoever
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>>323582348

I think KOTOR has autolvl.
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>>323577424
The problem is that it's just badly done in 1.

Consider the dark siders in the films, hell even the prequels

Good Evil
>Sheev biding his time, pretending to be good, while manipulating things behind the scenes and corrupting his future protogee
Sheev as a PC
>Sheev wanders into the Temple/Senate, casually murders everything, then tells Anakin to quit bitching and join up

Good Evil
>Vader killing incompetent officers as an example and outlet
Vader as a PC
>Vader kills any officer that happens to sneeze too loudly

Good Evil
>Kylo murders Han to try solidifying his resolve
Kylo as a PC
>Kylo repeatedly sets fire to a random orphanages to try solidifying his resolve
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>>323582545
>>323582613
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>>323580439
More like

>God Tier
Trask
HK-47
Jolee
Kreia

>High Tier
Canderous/Mandalore
Atton
Visas
Bao-Dur (wish he had more content)
G0-T0 (wish he wasn't shit at fighting)

>Good Tier
Hanharr
Mission
Handmaiden

>Mid Tier
T3-M4 (KOTOR II)
Zalbaar
Carth
Mira

>Bad Tier
Bastila
T3-M4 (KOTOR I, seriously was this even a character?)


>Dead on Dantooine Tier
Juhani

>Handmaiden for Females Tier
Disciple
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>>323579179
Dark Side Exile can make perfect sense.

Finding out the Jedi dicked them over due to their own ignorance and fear would tick off anyone off, especially due to how hypocritical it is coming from people supposed to be above letting fear dictate their actions.
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>>323581437
>everyone plays slickback hair face
No.

>everyone plays as jedi jesus or blonde floozy with full lips
Nah
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How is that brotherhood of shadow mod for kotor 1?
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>>323581437
>not playing as this suave fucker and going 80% darkside
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I marathon these games once a year.

Does anyone else feel like they can't into darkside anymore? I used to have no problem with it when I was younger. The dialogue options for dark side are so edgelord tier I just get so burnt out on it. First game moreso than the second. I think I've gone full lightside the past 5 times.
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>>323582863
>dat shit taste
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>>323583293
It's hard to roleplay a half-realistic character and pick the majority of DS options
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>>323583190
I wrote a pretty lengthy review on filefront about it but it's down.

Basically: The first mod is excellent and you should play it. (The Brotherhood of Shadow)
It has a cool little story and decent characters for a mod. Plus you can get some pretty sick robes from it. I do the mission every time.

Don't fucking download Solomon's revenge. You'll want to shoot yourself after the first 3 hours of endless dialogue. They did a good job with textures and new areas but the entire concept is like 6th grade english class writing.
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>>323583293
>steal candy from a kid
>+500 to Dark Side
This sums up Dark Side choices in Kotor games.
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>>323583635
Cool, thanks.
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>>323583258
Im genuinely curious if asian players chose asian faces, black players chose black faces, hispanic players chose hispanic faces and if white players chose white faces? As a white male i rarely go anything but white male. Looking for ethnic friends input.
no /pol/ pls
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>>323581121
That would have been a great direction
>happy go lucky kid that's hopelessly naive despite her street smarts
>sees her planet destroyed for practically no reason
>has deep rooted resentment to the girl she thinks stole her brother away
>finds out her brother and idol was a worthless lying sack of shit that didn't care about her in the slightest
>best friend follows you everywhere
>you become her new idol after Grif's fallen pedestal
>despite being evil, you're still taking care of her and getting shit done
>start talking to her, and slowly point out all the shit she's had to overcome that she never realised
>feed her resentment towards her brother/whatsherfacet/theuglyone
>convince her that she has to rely on you and point out that she can't rely on Zaalbar after all the other people that abandoned her
>when you turn, convert her by manipulating her feelings on one or more of the above
>NTR bastila 4 years later
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>>323583840
I'm white and I choose that guy every time. He just looks like a charismatic but villainous motherfucker
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>>323583840
As a white guy, I go for Jesus or the mysterious bald black dude every time.
They're both the only ones old enough to look like war vets
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>>323583840
As a white male I go with the asian female often.
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>>323583862
B-b-but cuckqueening is mean, anon!
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>>323583840
I'm white and I generally, in most video games, make white characters unless I can make a nonhuman character.
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>>323582842

>Not reading the Jedi Jesus Let's play on LP archives


Faggot
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>>323583862
>>convince her that she has to rely on you and point out that she can't rely on Zaalbar after all the other people that abandoned her
Which would lead to a neat scene in the end when Zaalbar tries to stop you and her from the dark side, reinforcing her fear that he will abandon her and that she can't trust him.
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>>323582863
Move T3 (Kotor 2) up a tier and drop Carth to OH MASTER I DO NOT TRUST YOU Tier and it's solid.
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>>323585296
link?
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>>323583840
Asian girl here. I only play black men in video games.
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>>323583862
>whatsherfacet/theuglyone
heh
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>>323585587
Z I M B A B W E
I
M
B
A
B
W
E
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Where am I supposed to get the processor for HK in KotOR2?
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>>323585578

Are you fucking serious. Is it that fucking hard to find a goddamn lp. It's like people think Let's Play isn't old as fuck.

Here you go. I still love you.
http://lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/
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>>323583258
Not playing a bald guy.
Do you even jedi-monk bro?
The midichlorians are weak with this one.
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>>323585686
Look in Droid shops if you don't want to wait for the HK-50s to drop one finally.
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>>323585686
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=processor+for+HK+in+KotOR2
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>>323583258
>>323585796
>not playing as the smug nigga with a moustache
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>>323585686
HK units practically rain on you in the RCM
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FACT:
Kotor threads are the comfiest and filled with the least rude dudes
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>>323587414
f-fuck you too
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>>323587414
The recipe for a good thread on /v/ is for it to be well enough known for a large amount of people to have played it, varied enough for there to be something to discuss (be it in characters, builds, plot, etc), for it to have never been actively hyped, for people to commonly point out and accept flaws and for it to have something commonly agreed to be crushingly disappointing as a follow up.

Old Bioware threads are great examples
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>>323588397
Bioware was never good

Except for BG2. How they managed to do it is beyond me.
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I have been thinking about this for a while now and i want to ask you guys if there was a kotor movie who would play revan and how would it break up? I think a trilogy with first movie being endar spine+taris+dantooine, second movie tatooine+kasyyhk+manaan and third movie leviathan+korriban+star forge and malak fight would be pretty good.
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>>323588857
Clearly the best choice would be to not make the shitty movie in the first place
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>>323588857
In order for it to accurately portray the game, it would need to be split into 7 movies. You could cut it down into a trilogy, but it would require cutting down a lot of plot.
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>>323584950

Only if you do it to good girls.

>tfw now I feel like writing a smutfic where Revan cheats on Bastilla with Mission, who's been pre-corrupted before the two ever met
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>>323589549
The worlds actually aren't that long though i think it would it into a trilogy.
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>>323589724
Don't do it man, Mission's the worst grill by far
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>>323589724
Bastilla is good! She's just scared and out of her depth, she doesn't mean to come off as rude!
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>>323589769
It's more a sense of plot progression. Each world has its own main questline under the context of the broader overarching plot. If you get rid of those then the overarching plotline of "find the Star Maps" becomes very short and disjointed. If you don't, you basically need to structure each movie to center around a single planet. If you pare it down to a trilogy, then the middle movie needs to center around two planets maximum with the rest of the Star Maps being found off-screen, otherwise the movie makes no sense.
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>>323590061
>>323589860

Well, I sure as shit ain't writing Juhani into this mix and there's no one else available.

>tfw Bastilla waiting for Revan to come back
>he just hangs out in the Outer Rim territories and keeps getting Mission preggers
>no actual enemy exists beyond the known galaxy, Revan just uses that to get away from Bastilla
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>>323587371
I only play bald guys in videogames if it is an option.
I'm bald
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>>323590719
get some hair, loser
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>>323570984
Why does Bioware use their fucking wheel for every game

Dragon Age and SWTOR would've been much better if they used this system
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>>323591406
They have a patent on the dialogue wheel so no one else can use it but them. Jackasses.
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>>323580439
Canderous/Mandalore should be high tier

he's just such a bro
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>>323581780
all of those are terrible and look ugly

at least KOTOR 2 had some decent looking ones
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>>323582348
It's hard but you got carth, basically pool the gear to him and let him carry.
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>>323582863
>Bastila not best girl

what the actual fuck is this
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>>323583293
>>323583494
It's easier to just ignore the alignment bar and rp the char as you sketched out in your head. You lose +3 stat but it's not worth it, especially considering some of the dumb choices.
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>>323592346
It's really easy to get 100% LS and still be a reasonable character. A bit naive, sure but you can get it
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>>323590462
I always liked Yuthura Ban.

Bastilla can't even come on Korriban, come on faggot this shit writes itself.
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>>323593061

Oh shit, Yuthura Ban! I forgot about her!

She's that purple Twi'lek!

Sweet, gonna go with her then!
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>>323590462
Mission didn't go with Revan tho
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>>323593239
What did she do?
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>>323543407
>cunt
She actually loves you, should have had the option of dicking her before she fucks off so she won't turn to the dark side.
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>>323593427
Went with the gay Wookie and started a business and then died


that's it
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>>323583840

white devil here. I usually choose the cutest looking gril regardless of race. usually ends up asian or black.
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>>323593427
Mission, Zaalbar, Juhani and Jolee were intentionally not mentioned besides rare namedrops (Bindo's Robe, Mission's Armband) because they could be killed off in 1.

Carth and Bastilla appear depending on whether you set Revan as male/female and light/dark.

Canderous, HK and T3 all rejoin as party members.
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>>323593776
I know you could set Revan as male/female when you talk with Atton, but how do set if s/he was light/dark?
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>>323593935
A dialogue with Kreia if I remember right. You can say he was evil or good and she says something like "was he? or is that what he wanted the rest of the galaxy to think".
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>all these KOTOR threads
what's going on? Not that i'm complaining.
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>>323594205
Do it for her
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>>323593935
Either "Revan helped save the Republic" or "Revan returned to lead the Sith" when you talk to Atton.
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>>323594309
>>323594205
Oh thanks.
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>>323581437
nope
nope
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>>323593204
Godspeed, anon.
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>>323581437
Ironically those are both the canon character models
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>>323574567

Please don't speak for me.
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>>323594309
>I couldn't care less
Can you actually just not bother to specify? What happens then?
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>>323591406
Because fuck you.
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>>323595340
It chooses for you
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>>323560252

>killed by the Handmaiden in a SPARRING match

How low was your Constitution?
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>>323595427
Is that where the alleged 'default' comes from?
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>>323591406
Because it lets them limit the word count, and thus the unnecessary VA pay
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>>323591279
Quit trying to be a pretty boy, girlyman.
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>>323596656
Basically yeah. For example, if you say you forgot what your lightsaber looks like then it defaults to a single-blade cyan.
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>>323595427
chooses randomly? Or does it always choose a certain one.
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>>323582348
This guy has 10hp and didn't take the feat to double hitpoints.
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Is there any point in using a single lightsaber?
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>>323598531
nope

to make one handed useful you have to spec, but it takes the same amount of points to spec into dual-wield and you do more damage
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>>323598531
Dueling makes you more tanky. Each individual attack is more accurate. Even a fully feated two-weapon build with a balanced off-hand weapon doesn't eliminate the accuracy penalties completely; you'll always have at minimum a 10% accuracy penalty on your main hand.
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>>323598807
kek that's what i thought
i assume this applies to KOTOR 2 as well?
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Dark side is best in 2 I'd only for the badass moment when each Jedi master realizes you are learning and perfecting their style while fighting them.
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>>323598889
Yep yep yep
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>>323594205
Movie recently came out and the Kotor games were once again dirt cheap on steam and are actually good games.
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>>323598989
Getting dark in K1 was great too, man. Bullshitting masters into hopeless attack.
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>>323583840
I nearly always pick the dude that looks most similar to me. I guess I am bad at roleplaying.
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>>323599642
I just pick default
I really suck at customization
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>>323598531
Yes. Having the +3 attack and defense from the top level of dueling is pretty fucking good for flimsier builds.
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>>323543407
How are you enjoying Carth so far?
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>>323596448
consular is weak as shit in melee nigga. couldn't hit that bitch half the time
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>>323598989
Force crush also has no right to be as fun as it is
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>>323600041
>Consular
>using melee

moron
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Is The Old Republic worth playing solo and for free ?
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>>323594271
>lightsaber
>blood
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>>323600292

Some classes yes, some no. Bounty Hunter and Agent both are fine solo. Inquisitor is pretty meh. If you thought KOTOR dark side was edge lord, ohhohoho boy you've not seen anything yet.
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>>323600286
since It was hand-to-hand echani combat bullshit, yeah
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>>323600558
>Unarmed
The game literally gives you free Unarmed Feats

how are you not wiping the floor with her
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>>323581437

This is absolutely true.
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>>323585067
>>323585067
>unless I can make a nonhuman character.

You can have black characters in both KOTOR games.
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>>323601952
>reaching this far for pointless edge
wow, you sure shocked us, anon
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>>323601952
>hur hur murricans aren't humans
Kill yourself.
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>>323600989
Not him but have you ever actually played a consular?
Handmaiden has echani combat feats on top of the first couple tiers of unarmed feats. Your average consular has 8 strength and no attack feats at all. If you don't just leave her parked on the ship and level her, she's the one with the advantage.
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>>323602485

Consulars generally have high as fuck wisdom that gives them a high AC, and you can boost your strength with numerous items.

The fight's gonna suck, but it's doable.
>>
What's so good about this game?
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>>323553241
I killed her my first time after trying my hardest to save her. I felt kinda bad when her lez lover started spazing out since I was playing a light sided guy.

I didn't even know she was a potential companion until later on since I read as little as possible about the game in order to be surprised.
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>>323602798
You do realize you get the wisdom to ac boost AFTER defeating Handmaiden?
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>>323602485
I always played as a force user and never had much trouble with the handmaiden fight senpai.
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>>323603138

Yeah, after the first fight when the power creep hasn't yet set in. It's the later fights that are troublesome.
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>>323602485
Ok so just park her on the ship and don't level her until you are done with the fights. Problem solved
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>>323603245
That's because you don't use her much. It's easy if you leave her underleveled and strip her off all items, but otherwise she'll mop the floor with you.
Best approach really is to transfer all her equipment to yourself and equip those damage resistance belts if you have them. Unarmed fighting gloves too. I mean, sure, it's doable, but it's far more of a pain on consular since you actually have to prepare.
>>323603280
I have the exact opposite experience. The wisdom boost turns the later fights into a cakewalk. Your naked AC starts outpacing Handmaiden's quickly and she can barely touch you.
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>>323581780
Top right is the only accepatable other choice. Good taste.
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>>323604176
My nigger.
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>>323593061
Yuthura should have been a secret/alternate party member. She was a top tier NPC. You can even delve into her backstory like a companion.
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>>323604176
>>323604336
my niggas
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>>323602843
Dunno. Try and find out.>>323603053
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>>323604176
>not picking jedi jesus
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>>323604697
Should have replaced Juhani.

She works as both a dark and light companion in a game which desperately needed more dark siders.
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>>323568524
>>323568889
What is the point of not leveling on Taris? Some sort of hard mode? I can't see the benefit of playing with one arm tied behind your back.
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>>323604895
Allows you to level more after becoming a Jedi, which gives you more Jedi powers.
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>>323604895
Maximizing your Jedi levels.
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>>323604840
jedi jesus is only in 2

also
>not picking bottom right
>picking some white trash metalhead looking chump with a "soul patch"
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>>323604840
>jedi jesus
>kotor 1

If you mean the default/canon face with slicked back brown mullet hair, that's my main choice, but baldy-scar is great, too.
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>>323604998
>>323605027
>what is kotor save editor
>>
When I first played KOTOR ages ago, I never noticed just how SJW-infested Bioware was back then. Now when I'm replaying, its fucking everywhere.

They won't even give me a legit option to agree with the racist guy on Taris. Its all, "yeah okay you're crazy". Fuck I wanted to do quests for that guy.
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>>323605241
Not everyone is a cheater, anon.
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>>323605241
Nigga, you asked what the point of it was and I told you. Don't be a smartass.
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>>323605241
>lol y do dat when u can just cheat
great post
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>>323600292
Imperial Agent's storyline is really fun.
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>>323605345
>>323605449
>level up throughout taris

>use kse to change your jedi level to equal the amount you leveled up on Taris

>use kse to give yourself the same powers you'd have gotten anyway

>cheating
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>>323605601
BH is worth just for all the Canderous and Calo Nord shit

One
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>>323606176
Yeah, doing something you can't normally do or using an outside source to alter something in the game to make it easier is pretty much what cheating is, stupid.
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>>323606176
>I suck so much that I need a cheat program to beat the game
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>>323556129
>canon female Meetra Surik jedi exile
>Disney states that anything outside of the prequels and the original movies is no longer canon

Sounds to me like the kotor canon doesn't matter anymore m80
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>>323606593
>Disney also stated that old canon will be slowly be reintroduced
>there are already blatant references to Old Republic canon on Kylo Ren's lightsaber

looks like it's going to, my pirate friend
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>random name generator gives me "Handyr Skenolo"
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>>323606176
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>>323606787

Rakata Prime is canon now.
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which face is the best in kotor 1 and kotor 2 and why are they bald black man and that ewan mcgregor dude?
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>>323607286
*faces
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>>323607227
Yeah but Korriban is not.

The canon changed it's name to moraband or some shit like that
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>>323607828
wat
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>>323607996
Look towards the top-right of the map here >>323607227

Moraband is the official name for Korriban.
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>>323608345
Maybe it's another planet? why would they rename it?
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>>323607996
In the clone wars series (canon) Yoda, looking to learn how to become a force ghost like his buddy qui gon travels to the home planet of the sith "Moraband" where there is a valle of the dark lords and it looks very much korriban.


Oh and also he speaks with the ghost of Darth Bane who is a dark samurai.
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>>323607227
>>323608345
>Yavin
>Mandalore

my dick is all tingly
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>>323605337
Well, in Star Wars, xenophobia resonates poorly -- the racial politics fall to the wayside in favor of idealistic conflict. At least in Mass Effect you could be a thorough xenophobe, and the reasoning there was much more concrete, given the political conflicts were racially based.

But you actually can say to the old xenophone "We should kill them all!" but it doesn't lead to anything. Doesn't actually stop you from roleplaying a dude who mostly only kills aliens; you can slaughter Manaan's wildlife and tons of Selkath.
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why did they have to cancel TCW

The clone episodes were real fuckin good, and the next season before it was canned was supposed to be full of KOTOR fuckery

Instead we got rebels which is shit and the darkest thing they have done is that the little wookie kid in the first episode almost died
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>>323608489

Lucas said it. And I'm not joking. It's Korriban but with another name


>''At the start of story development, the Sith world was called Korriban, but George Lucas preferred to change its name to Moraband. A world so ancient could have been known by different names in different eras'' Officially stated
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>>323608582
>Moraband was heavily based on the Star Wars Legends world Korriban, which first appeared in the 1994 comic book Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith 2: The Quest for the Sith. During the production of "Sacrifice," The Clone Wars team initially called the planet Korriban, but George Lucas preferred the name Moraband. The name was changed to reflect his wishes, but Lucasfilm noted upon release of the episode that a planet as ancient as Moraband could have had several different names throughout its existence.
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>>323608784
>just change the name

why, I mean fuck, at least plan shit out before you throw it out the door.
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>>323543407
also playing for the first time, just got to tattoine. Game is boring as fuck and didn't age well at all. This coming from a 27 year old. This game was good when it came out, but it's not worth playing now if you didn't play before. Dull environments, story, the combat has no strategy whatsoever
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>>323608784
Somebody post the darth icky and darth insanius one.
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>>323544312
I was level 8 when I became a jedi on my first playthrough and had no trouble getting through the game. Don't be a dick.
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>>323608758
>>323608784
>A world so ancient could have been known by different names in different eras
Aside from Lucas changing things for no reason because he's autistic, I don't see the problem. Hell even in real life different places have been known by different names within one person's lifetime. Ask someone what the name of Russia's second-largest city is, for example, or the name of the country in between Thailand and Bangladesh.
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>>323609131
not baiting at all, all the points I made stand. It's ok to love this game just like people love FF7 and such but there's absolutely no reason to play this now if you never did.
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>>323609236
I'm still upset by the fact that Turkey calls based Constantinople fucking "Istanbul".

This shit needs to fucking stop.
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>>323609254
>It's ok to love this game just like people love FF7 and such but there's absolutely no reason to play this now if you never did
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>>323609254
Look, I know daddy never loved you, but that doesn't make it okay to try and convince people their love for something truly great is as hollow as your ad's presence in your life.
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>>323544246
I'm level 3 right now its that ok ? do i need to level my skills up.
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>>323609586
*truly great for a 2003 game
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>>323609659
Just do whatever you want, the game is easy enough that you don't need to minmax.
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>>323608975
what is this aging bullshit again?
you do know the games don't change even though time passes, right? they are just as playable as they were at before.
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>>323581437
I will deny it, KOTOR 1 I played soul patch
KOTOR 2 I haven't played and I'm not interested
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>>323609212
>first playthrough
>decide to cheat like on Taris or something ( faggot 13 year old then)
>level up to max
>game doesnt make me a jedi on cause i can never level up
>finished 3 fucking planets with a vibroblade and no fucking jedi powers before I realised something was wrong

That was the last time I cheated in single player games.
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>>323609735
Nah, it's still great today. Your contrarian shitposting doesn't work here.
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double blade > dual wield > single light saber. right? As long as I have the right 2hand perks for the first two
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>>323609374
I'm still upset by the fact that Eastern Romans calls based Byzantium fucking "Constantinople".

This shit needs to fucking stop.
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>>323610058
Dual wield is better due to more crystals and the games give more than enough really good crystals that they can be used.
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>>323610058
I really doesn't matter, you'll be a powerhouse by end/mid game anyway.
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What does the Jedi Council say about anal?
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>>323609823
I've had the game installed for about 5 years now, and I can definitely see a difference between a freshly installed game and my version.

The lightsabers, they just look like crap. The light reflection is terrible, the aliasing...well don't get me started. Some of the FMVs have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. Fresh installs from the same period still look great, even if they weren't stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to new installs, you may not be able to see the difference now, but in a year or two, you'll be glad you did.
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>>323609735
>I can only play new things with modern graphics
>nobody is allowed to enjoy things that aren't new with modern graphics. I won't allow it

Fuck right off. The graphical style for KotoR 1 and 2 have aged incredibly well. Go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>323610180
when you use the crystals on the lightsabers, are they consumed? or I can just take them out later?
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>>323609254
>Implying aging makes a game worse

No anon, is just your stupid standars. The game was as good in 2003 as today.
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>>323581437
In KOTOR 2 I played as the one that looked like Kahn from King of the Hill. He looked so out of place it was funny.
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Does Atris give back my lightsaber?
bitch keeps using it against brianna wu and my jedi jesus
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>>323581780
kotor 1, center face erry time yo!
kotor 2, that obi-wan/ewan mcgregor dude. is that jedi jesus?
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>>323610426

They are not. Just think of them as other pieces.
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>>323610426
They're just stat boosters that you can remove and shift around to give your lightsabers all kinds of combinations of effects and there are even a couple of color crystals that alter the affects of the power crystals.
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>>323610420
it's not even the graphics dumb shit, of course I'm not expecting modern graphics on a 2003 game, it's the boring and dull gameplay, zero fucking strategy in battles. Final fantasy 13 came out a couple of years after and people hated the auto-battle thing, and it was way, way more in depth than retarded kotor battles
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>>323610487
no

She probably use it as a sextoy though so there's that
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I used the bald fu manchu for kotor 1
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>>323610107
This.
Tsargrad sounds better anyway.
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>>323610624
adding to this, the color crystals that affects the power crystals are afaik only in the pc version
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>>323609374
>byzeboos

Disgusting desu.
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>>323610107
>believing Byzantium had any value whatsoever

Byzantium wasn't great until they were riding on the coattails of the Romans.
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why is mission so fucking cute. and why is her ass so great? why is she such a shitty character with absolutely no reason no use her?
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>>323610946
no, see >>323610993

blurple should be removed from history, fuck Byzantium.
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>>323610737
>zero fucking strategy in battles

I'm tired of seeing people crying at how Darth Banon and Visas pushes their shit up because they are not using the correct strategy.
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>>323610993
Romans were Helasboos of their time, nerd.
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>>323611090
Because twi'lek are cute
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>>323611409
they're all ugly, her face is different from all the other ones. is it because she's 14?
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>>323611265
step 1 : jedi consular
step 2 : jedi weaponmaster

spam lightsaber attacks with force speed and force storm

congrats you litteraly cannot die
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>>323611090
She's 14

what is it with Bioware and underage girls
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>>323610058
Dual Wield > Double Blade >>>> Single

Doublebladed crit on a 20, singles on 19-20.
Not like it matters since the game is a cakewalk anyway.
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I have a weird bug in Kotor 2
it's not gamebreaking but it's quite silly
ingame T3 is always neutral and I can see his bar set to neutral too
but whenever he levels up and I go to the level up screen his portrait is evil ass fuck
it's full dark red and black and there's dark fogs swirling around too
not even HK and Canderous is has an evil portrait as that.
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>>323552036
both kotor games are better than TFA and whatever shit comic Marvel is producing for them these days.
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It's so sad to see an entry level dull rpg considered one of the best games of all time. It's final fantasy VII 2.0
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>>323543407
Six fucking hours to not even finish Taris? What the fuck were you doing?
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>>323611884

Double-bladed sabers have higher base damage and will use 1.5 times your strength modifier when calculating final damage.

Double is best for str builds, dual is best for dex builds.
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>>323610737
>using autobattle ever

Oh, so you're retarded. Okay then, I'll just stop responding to your childish whining.
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Fuck, you guys are making me want to play the game again. It made me worship my xbox.
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>>323611889
I always knew T3 was an evil fucker
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>>323583840
Black guy here
>jrpg
default guy
>wrpg
dark skinned version of default character if there's no lesbian romance option
light skinned blonde or red head version of default character if there is a lesbian romance option
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>>323611703
>Weaponmaster
>Before fighting Visas

No dude, she will be waiting for you the second you can choose the class.
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>>323611090
>why is she such a shitty character with absolutely no reason no use her?
Give someone something that can stun and Mission's sneak attack cuts through them like nothing.
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Should I just take my Prestige Class as soon as possible or wait until after I level up again because I'm kind of close to a normal level up.
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>>323612301
visas never was a hard fight ?
If you play consular or guardian it's a piece of cake
if you play sentinel quit gaming
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>>323612301
I brought Kreia along when I got 15 and had high light side
she turned me into watchman in the middle of the jedi council basement
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