So my cousin came over to my house today and we played some games

>>323449234
I do that, it's more comfortable to hold the controller with your middle fingers and just use the index for both triggers.
There's hardly ever a situation when you need to press L1 and L2 at the same time.

>>323449442

But there are many games that benefit from you being able to press the left and right triggers and buttons quickly one after the other.

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>>323449854
Like?
I literally never had troubles with any games holding my controller like this.
And the index finger is the second fastest of all your fingers, how is it any problem to move it 1cm?

>>323450050

How many Souls games have you played?

>>323450101
All of them, including Demons and Bloodborne.

>>323450147

And you've never felt that you'd play better frame-buffering a R1 into a R2?

>>323450101
Holding a controller like that is perfectly fine for Souls games. Optimal, even.

The only problem the claw might have is when playing fighting games, but you shouldn't be using a pad for that anyways.

>>323450352
No.
Look man I'm sorry the way I hold my controller triggers your autism, but I think you are going a little too far in thinking it somehow makes any difference at all.

>>323449234

I honestly think you're the weird one here OP.

Everyone I've ever played games with doesnt use their middle fingers for anything other than holding the controller.

"spider style" as I like to call it, is just awkward and uncomfortable

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>>323450379
>the claw
That's not the claw m8.
This is what people call the claw, usually used by monster hunter fags because the PSP didn't have a second stick.

>Not having agile enough thumbs to take care of all button mashing

>>323450352

Unless you have some type of degenerative neurological condition, you can move your finger from R1 to R2 and vice versa before even the fastest animation is complete.

>>323449234
it's uncomfortable man

>>323450680

>Sony actually allowed the PSP to be sent to production without two sticks

This will confuse me for all time.

On my death bed, my last words will be, "Why only one stick, PSP?"

>>323450352
uh, theres plenty of time to switch your finger from r1 to r2

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>>323449234
this is bait

>>323450816
>>323450464
>>323450752

I've never seen anyone, even fucking speedrunners, who could frame-buffer with only a single finger.

That said, I'm only speaking of souls games, but still, I've never seen anyone frame-buffer a standard to heavy strike with only a single finger for both the R1 and R2.

>>323449854
Start naming off games you fool because no one agrees with you!

>>323450680
Also a Orig3DS problem.

>>323451000

What exactly do you mean by frame buffer?

Do you mean queuing animations?

Because I literally do that all the time with one finger.

OP I hope you're consistent with your ideology and you use a mouse with three fingers and your keyboard with 84 fingers.

>>323449234
I only keep my index fingers on the shoulder buttons for most controllers. If I use both fingers I feel like the controller doesn't have enough support.

It's hardly ever a problem for me.

>>323451031
Amplitude
Jackie Chan

>>323450101

You never need to hold the controller like that in Souls games. Swapping between R1 and R2/L1 and L2 with index fingers takes an insignificant amount of time and doesn't slow you down at all in any of those games.

Off the top of my head the only games where I've found using both the index and middle fingers necessary were Mirror's Edge (back before I had a PC to play it with better controls) DMC, and Bayonetta.

>>323451248
why would be want three fingers to a mouse and 84 for a keyboard?

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>>323450101

>>323449234
I notice girls do this the most

>>323451387

This pasta is as moldy as it was when I first bought it.

>>323451000
>superiority discussion
>i play "souls" games


subtle but nice bait OP, well done

>>323451359
Left click, scrollwheel and right click.

Figure the other one out.

Lots of people hold the controller like that OP, why do you think DmC had two dodge buttons? I used to be a pleb and not have my middle fingers on the triggers. Then I saw the error of my ways and started having the indexes on the tbumpers and middles on the triggers.

Maximum control, one may also apply a clawgrip at times, but I reserve that for shit like Souls games.

>>323451580
mad ds weenie

>>323451303
You fuck

Quick question, do people actually hold their controller in the air?

The most common response people have to "claw" grip is that it gives no support. But to that I just say play like me and rest your controller on your leg? Is it actually that hard?

>>323451672
If you wnet with OPs ideology then you would want 5 fingers on the mouse and 109 on the keyboard

>>323449234
Depends on the game/controller for me. Usually if I don't need to use both triggers at the same time, I will leave my middle fingers in the back, it just feels more natural to me.

>>323452089
>Bought gaming peripherals

>>323452198
>A controller isn't a peripherals

>>323449234
You support the back of the controller with your middle fingers, so it wont flip out your hand when pressing a button

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>>323452439
There's a huge difference between a peripheral you can use to play a game and peripherals marketed towards gamers.

>>323449234

They're called triggers for a reason
What finger do you use on the trigger of a gun?

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>>323453215
Middle finger

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>>323452993
>a controller isn't marketed towards gamers

>>323449234
fucking idiot you don't drive a car with one foot on the breaks and one on the gas same thing with controllers

>>323449234
>Do people actually do this?
You mean there are people who don't?

>>323453791
But people do drive with one foot on the clutch and one foot on the gas, which is a better analogy.

But no, wait, let me guess, you're an American who thinks "driving" an automatic actually counts as driving.

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>>323453361

>>323453791
Rally drivers do.

>>323453791

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8By2AEsGAhU&list=PLetzdzqx3dNUQuCx6U75P4OBy7ml_XJa4&index=17

>>323454143
Actually I have my right foot on the accelerator, my left on the clutch and I push the brakes with my penis.

>>323453580
he said 5 fingers on a mouse, which only gaming mice have, retard

>>323450101
Name one instance in a Souls game where you have to literally hold both shoulder buttons and triggers at the same time.

Besides this whole thread is fucking stupid. It's more comfortable to tuck your middle fingers away, but if a game really needs you to press both shoulders and triggers then it's not hard to fucking unfold your middle fingers for a bit. It depends on the game and 99% of the time you don't need all 4 buttons at the same time, switching up and down with two fingers works perfectly fine.

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>I use both my index and middle fingers to hit the shoulder buttons and triggers!
>I use both my feet to hit the brake and acceleration pedals in a car!

>>323451387

>I've never beaten the Firelink Shrine graveyard skeletons!

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>>323454586
>gaming mouse
>5 buttons

>>323449234
Holy shit. Am I like the only one who doesn't even know. Like I have truly never even thought about this. So off the top of my head I couldn't tell you how I hold it. It's just such a natural thing to me I don't think about it. Or maybe I am just retarded.

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>>323451971
I hold it like this with my wrists resting on my thighs.

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>>323454832

>Video Games and Cars are the exact same thing!

I bet you have a problem with people who have one foot on the clutch and one foot on the gas.

>>323451000
>>323450752
>>323449234
>muh frame-buffering inputs
>it must be autism
No anon, you are the autistic retard.

>>323454868
>I can't refute shit git gud!!!! strawmanstrawmanstrawman

>>323454143
People who think standards are superior to automatics are fucking retards

>>323449442
this
having both index and middle fingers on triggers puts to much tension my on wrist and tendons

>>323455697

Why do you like having to buy more petrol per month?

>>323449234

>Steam Controller

That's actually a thing?

>>323454970

Fine, 15

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>>323454567
>the thought of some guy getting a boner at will every stoplight or when he has to do turns
my sides.

>>323458014

>/o/ IRL

>>323456079
Yeah this isn't so much the case anymore though. Automatics have more gears nowadays. So often times it's a toss up, or not a very big difference. Definitely not enough, at least in my opinion, to overcome the convenience of an automatic.

>>323458760
There's nothing inconvenient about a manual once you learn how to drive one.

>>323459138
Its not about a manual being inconvenient. It's about an automatic being far more convenient still. Ex cities, hills, etc.

>>323460119
That's like saying riding an electric wheelchair is more convenient than walking because you don't need to think about moving your legs.

>>323460293
Well this is just a pretty poor comparison. The whole point was driving a manual to save on gas. So there is some sort off benefit to driving one. I said that isn't entirely true. So it could be seen as adding unnecessary hastle. Not implying a manual is hard to drive, but it's still more of a hastle than an automatic

>>323461362
The point I'm trying to make is that you don't need to think to use your legs.
At least I hope not.

>>323449234

Triggers ruined modern controllers for me. Who the fuck plays fps on a damn controller?

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There was this Super Metroid speedrunner in like 2003 that kept trying to convince people that the best way to use the SNES controller is.. like..
The tip of your thumb on Y
The first joint of your thumb on B
The tip of your index finger on A
And the first joint of your index finger on X

And the fucker truly held a WR at some point

>>323461864

What's hard to understand that using more than one finger per button will always be slower?

>>323462908
wut

>>323454143
But you're still operating two pedals with one foot, brake and gas, while the other does clutch, which still supports the one finger for two buttons.
Unless you're this guy
>>323454567
If you use your dick for the bumper buttons too you need to bring your own controller bro.

>>323451000
maby i dont fucking frame buffer then you insufferable retard, maby i just wanna relax and not try to play at 100% all the time, that ever occur to you, that most people who play videogames are casual about it?

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>>323463978

>casual

And so the truth is revealed

>>323457323
17 actually

>>323455472
You don't keep your foot on the clutch at all times dipshit.

>>323464098
got a problem with it? too bad, everyone has a casual side anon, even you.

>>323449234
I bet you use both feet when you drive you fucking autist.

>>323449442
It's completely plausible to press both the button and trigger simultaneously with an overlay grip.

>>323464438
Well he's never actually driven.

>>323464474
>using automatic shift
Confirmed fag

>>323450101

Probably not a good example since I'm pretty sure you can finish those games with 1 hand on the controller at a time

I prefer to play with my index finger for the right skde button faces and my middle and ring finger on the trigger.

>>323449234
Lots of people do relic you big idiot

In 26 years I've never even thought about using triggers with middle fingers, it seems so unintuitive. Still had to try it out now that I read this thread, and I can say with certainty that doing that isn't my thing: I most likely could get used to it if I really wanted to, but do I really need to press triggers and bumpers simultaneously that often? No.

I once had a girlfriend who would place her middle fingers on the triggers/bumpers, her index fingers on the left stick and hovering over the buttons (xbox), and her thumbs would be on the d-pad and right stick. She kept wondering why she was shit at video games, and I told her to change her grip. She did and then she started playing good. I can't believe people don't do the thumbs-for-sticks/d-pad/buttons and indexes for triggers/bumpers grip. Makes no sense.

>>323464176
>not having 14 programmable buttons and a MouseShift button to double the options for 28 total macros
I bet you don't even write papers with your mouse only faggot

>>323449234
To be perfectly honest family, the wii controller would be fucking perfect if it had a second stick.

>>323465590
She was clawing the controller which makes sense in some cases.
>xbox
Yeah fuck no, it's retarded

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>>323455204
>never noticed how I hold it
>now I'm holding a controller trying to remember
>can't
>holding a controller feels weird as fuck now
WHY DID I READ THIS FUCKING THREAD FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>323464849
>using both feet on a stick shift
Holy shit you're a fucking idiot

>>323454143
>riding the clutch
>not bad technique

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Every other way is wrong.

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>>323449234
Actually the other way is the norm, that's why so many people have issues with the DualShock controllers. They're meant to be held like you hold them, with a claw/fingertip like grip (like pic related but a controller).

I usually go claw for games like Mario Kart DD, Smash, Diablo III, and I think Dark Souls but it's been awhile.

Actually the new Star Wars Battlefront has me going Double Claw for the fighter squadron mode, which I'm not is a good thing.

>>323449234
>It has to be autism that drives people to only use their indexes for the tiggers and buttons, right?

you do realize you're throwing a temper tantrum over nothing on an anime image board, right?