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How the fuck is Miyazaki going to top this in Dark Souls 3? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
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>>323414683
He won't dark souls is old and busted
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>>323414683
>blood sprayed everywhere
>flowers don't turn red
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>>323414683
Miyazaki didn't write the music.
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>bought the game yesterday
>die at cleric beast
fuck this shit
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>>323414776

But anon, didn't you know Miyazaki made everything?

Miyazaki is the ENTIRE A-team.
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>>323414893
Acquire proficiency
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>>323414893
Come on anon, do you WANT me to say it?
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>>323414683
By un-watering down the gameplay and not restricting builds and equipment by choosing your playstyle for you.
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>>323415000
How to spot a PCuck
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>>323414774
Nah man, I like dem flowers
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>>323414893
get adequate
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why can we have souls games on a wii u? i just don't get it
I don't even want das 3 but not das or even das 2? i don't like pc gaming and hate other consoles so i don't have much choice
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>>323415459
well that's your own fault you fucking baby
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TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM
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>>323415305

How to spot an idiot.
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>>323415459
from already sucks at coding, having to work on a console that is just slightly above the 360 doesnt help.

also, according to nintendo ceo, they mostly focus on family-friendly games.

i see they gave it a go with bayonetta 2 and the 3rd party ports at the beginning of its life, but idk how it turned out in term of sales
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>>323414683
Was it really begging you to kill it?
I feel kinda sorry for it, and the fact that killing it takes so long and gives you nothing makes me think that it's the more moral decision.
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>>323416128
>killing it gives you nothing
If by nothing you mean Living String then sure.
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>>323416012
>i see they gave it a go with bayonetta 2 and the 3rd party ports at the beginning of its life, but idk how it turned out in term of sales
Bayo 2 is going for beaucoup bucks on the second hand market due to her inclusion in SSB4.
They just have to make the protag a SSB4 character and they're good to go.
Hell, that sounds like a good business strategy.
"Make games for us, we'll make one of the characters a dude in Smash." EZ money.
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>>323416221
I forgot due to hating the chalice dungeons. I meant blood. Everything else gives you blood.
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>>323416356
And while we're in Mensis, the fuck is Iosefka's blood doing there?
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>>323414683
If you're talking about music he already did with Lord of Cinder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
If your talking about the boss itself
Nah, Gehrman was fucking amazing
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>>323414893
Now now, a good hunter wouldn't give up so easily.
Don't you want to be a good hunter?
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>>323414893
CB is easy man
I played the game 3 times and havent died to him once
You can quit at Gascoin tho
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>>323416012
Wii U could be on pair or even better than ps4 or even xbone if devs would actually cared
most games on Wii U runs on stable 60fps while being in 1080p
fast racing neo looks better than most other consoles games and still runs 60fps/1080p without any problem
unlike other consoles the wii u architecture is very unique and it so optimization is required
but devs just don't care because they hateboner nintendo for no reason
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>>323416712
>but devs just don't care because they hateboner nintendo for no reason

The business world doesn't work like that. There is always a reason.

And no, computing just simply does not work like that. The Wii U would not run Bloodborne as well as the PS4, simply because it has worse hardware. The processing power required to run Bloodborne is a lot higher than what's required of SSB4 or MK8, which comparitively has a style that's very easy to render, and doesn't have a lot of heavy shit going on around you.

It's a weak console hardware wise, and so it won't get PS4/Xbone multiplats.
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>>323416632
>CG is easy
Subjective.
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>>323416128
Well it did made the trip up to the castle pretty damn fucking annoying so fuck that thing
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>>323417023

No it isn't, he has a dead zone where you can just stand and more than half of his move set flat out misses.
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>>323416632
You can parry Gascoin throughout the entire fight. Not to mention he becomes easy mode if you bring him up the stairs.
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>>323416914
Then riddle me this batman: why does Xenoblade X look just as good as Bloodborne? Is it because Bloodborne is wasting a ton of its processing usage on pointless full screen filters like chromatic aberration?
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>>323417451

>why does Xenoblade X look just as good as Bloodborne?

No it doesn't.
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Where can I go with

20 vit
20 end
10 str
25 skl
10 blt
10 arc
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>>323415826
>DS not import version
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>>323417562

Depends on the weapon you want to use every stat is viable to upgrade but ultimately it will be the exact same build just with a different weapon that scales with different stats.
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>>323417451
Bloodborne is wasting power on shit like CA so that it doesn't have to waste as much power on expensive AA.
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The one reborn's theme doesn't get enough love. It captures the atmosphere just as good as gehrman's theme
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DS3 will never look or feel as good as Bloodborne
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>>323416712
>still runs 60fps/1080p
it's 720p 60fps
also, as pc gamer, wii u achieves 60fps 1080p at the expense of textures and aa

>>323416712
>unlike other consoles the wii u architecture is very unique and it so optimization is required
>Wii U could be on pair or even better than

3rd party and even first party already tend not to optimize too much for ps4/xbone/pc, what gives you the impression they'll treat a console with effectively sub-par specs differently?
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>>323418041
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>>323417519
It does to me :)

>>323417883
How does CA sub for AA? Does it tone down jaggies somehow?
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>>323418041

It already looks better than Bloodborne.

Visual variate and PC resolutions and framerate.
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>>323418219

Variety*
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>>323418186
>How does CA sub for AA? Does it tone down jaggies somehow?

no, CA just takes away 1-2 fps and makes jaggies look even worse. it's purely an aesthetic choice i cant understand, especially seeing it overused a lot lately
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>>323414683
>Final boss of Dark Souls 3 is The original human form of the Furtive Pygmy
>Boss of the inevitable DLC is Gwynevere gone hollow
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>>323418219
>>323418318

no shit sherlock, those are promotional screens.
if you played the network test, you'd notice it looks slightly worse than BB in its current state
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>>323418360

>no flame god flann

Disappointed tbqh
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>>323418219
You're looking at bullshots you fucking retard
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>>323418219
>>323418318
those are bullshot tho
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>>323418432

>if you played the network test

I did, it's on PS4. Fuck that noise I'm playing this game on PC where it won't run like garbage and will look significantly better at 2556x1440.
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Dose anyone know where this area is in the game?
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>>323418560
im a bit worried they're still tying shit to framerate
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I just wonder if he'll ignore the second game's idiotic plot or find some way to make it actually fit into the overall narrative.
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>>323418560
What he said. The only problem on Pc are the hordes of cheaters, you don't have that on consoles. I'm pretty sure the game will have CE tables within a day.
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>>323418560
>2556x1440.
How much did your PC cost?
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>>323418624
upper cathedral ward
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>>323418219
Every reasonable modern game without Chromatic Aberration looks better than Bloodborne.

Seriously, it ruins the otherwise great look of the game.
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>>323418667
Not a problem in DS2, draconian softbans.
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>>323418689
Less than one Oculus Rift.
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>>323418624

Looks like where you go through to get the "Make Contact" gesture.

>>323418652

Who knows, the durability thing never bothered me, they've already come out and said that they thought that it was too slow in DaS1 and too fast in DaS2.
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>>323418689

$1449
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>>323418663

He said it's the same universe as Dark Souls 1 and 2. He'll likely ignore both for the most part and only reference key plot elements like cycles, fire, and the darksign.
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I noticed the breezeway in the Cathedral Ward, by the graveyard, has a window with clearly detailed room in it. Is it just meant to look like a place you could get to? Or am I missing some means of access?
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>>323418667

You don't have CE tables on consoles but make no mistake there's plenty of exploits on the consoles and they're just as bad as what CE tables can do in some cases.

Bottomless box glitch didn't come about because of CE tables, that shit was there on PS3/360 since launch of DaS1. Sure it's not infinite health but it may as fucking well be.
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>>323418881

Don't see why he'd ignore the game he made, but I could see him maybe ignoring the bulk of what DS2 did and just gleaming elements to fit into whatever the final game is about.
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>>323418760
I thought the durability in DS2 was fine for most weapons.
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>>323418624
It would have to be upper Cathederal Ward if it exists, that shot may have been taken from a cut area or the devs just plonked the character on a roof for a cool picture.

Where's the image from anyway.
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>>323418731
This is what BB looks like without CA
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>>323418760
>Who knows, the durability thing never bothered me, they've already come out and said that they thought that it was too slow in DaS1 and too fast in DaS2.

i dont mind about durability, but, for example, you cant pull off jump attack or guard break consistently in ds2 or dsfix ds1, reason being they tied the input to framerate somehow.
or enemy animations being faster at double or triple the framerate. it's unplayable on a 144hz monitor without capping.

they fixed it in scholar though
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>>323418945

It was only a problem with huge raw damage weapons that didn't scale. Shit like the skull club.
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>>323418990
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>>323418990

without CA, added AA and better contrasting*

ftfy
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>>323419059
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>>323418919
I had instances on Pc, where my equipment was destroyed and I was catapulted into the air immediately when I invaded people.
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>>323419148
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>>323419181

yea I find that shit funny I guess. There's no loss really for me so I just laugh at it.

Makes me forget that stuff like that happens.
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>>323419221
>>323419148
>>323419059
>>323418990

>What Bloodborne would look like on PC

Such a waste.
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>>323419221
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>>323414683
I dunno anon, the single boss theme we know of sounds pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3xQga-2LX4
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>>323419327

It still looks great on PS4
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>>323419327
BB looks really good on PS4 and runs a stable 30 fps except for some tiny drops at some places. They do alot of clever stuff to hide the console's shortcomings.
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>>323416486
>lord of cinder
>better than ghermans or ludwigs theme
Loving every laugh.
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just finished Bloodborne and the DLC, haven't played any of the others in the series. Should I:
a) Platinum the game (have Yharnam trophy left)
b) Play either DaS or DasII while I wait for 3 and risk burning myself out on inferior games
c) just wait for 3
d) kill myself
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>>323419565

Yea but much like Dark Souls 1 a lot of the artistry in the textures gets lost in the lack of proper filtering and anti-aliasing. Also the frame rate is really quite poor.

>>323419613

I've played it and finished it multiple times on PS4, it looks great doesn't mean it isn't wasted potential.
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>>323419750
Play 2 and save 1 for after 3.
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>>323419750

Plat Bloodborne and then play DaS.

DaSII is okay at best, with huge glaring flaws even then. The worst offender being the ridiculous movement limitations. It's very subtle, but compared to movement in BB and DaS it's hard to swallow.
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>>323418219
>>323418318
>boring aesthetic that has been done 3 times already
>gameplay much more similar to previous games with each weapon having less than half of the nicest of each Bloodborne weapon

"But look, the PC version will have more polygons, that proves you wrong! Also the 1 new move Weapon Arts offer is the equivalent of BB's transformations, nothing lost"

wew
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>>323419750
I went from BB->DS2 and DS2 nearly killed the souls franchise for me. Luckily I played one and it redeemed the series for me in its entirety before too much damage was done.
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>>323418219
>believing pre-release Souls game shit ever

Every single game since Dark Souls has lied nonstop in all of its prerelease shit.
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>>323418454
I had a weird dream where you fight Hollow Flann and Hollow Gwynevere as a gank squad boss where Flann is like a faster Smelter Demon all up in your face constantly while Gwynevere hangs back casting miracles. It was even less fun than it sounds.
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By and large the music was great but Lullaby for Mergo was kinda lame.
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>>323419964

You're bad at shitposting nigger. Step your game up.
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>>323419964
>of the nicest
of the moveset*
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>>323420000
>having video game dreams

It's time to take a break, anon.
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>>323420000

So a worse version of Elana?
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>>323419834

Filtering seems just fine. As does the frame rate. I've only ever encountered a few instances of lag. Though I do notice the kind of "jerky" motions of far off enemies, but that's only in certain areas
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>>323419834
Honestly, did you mind this while playing?
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>>323420136
>You will never dream you're in the Hunter's dream
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>>323415826

Hey Anon, don't use my monitor.
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>>323414683

Was this suppose to be impressive? I was not even that great when MGS3 did it.
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>>323419964

I don't think I'll ever be happy using a weapon in any Souls game after using the Rakuyo for so long. It's moveset is fucking crazy, with super armor on a lot of the moves too. Starting a new build and the slog to reach the Rakuyo is intense.
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>>323420152

You just aren't as attuned to notice the shit as I am. Being a primarily PC user with consoles for their exclusives results in noticing these issues to the point where they severely hamper your enjoyment. If you are primarily a PC user that doesn't notice these things count yourself lucky.

>>323420153

Yes it severely hampered my enjoyment of the game in certain areas. None of it was worse than the terrible Chalice Dungeons though.
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>>323418939
Because he doesn't want to make sequels in the first place. # will likely just make references to 1 and 2 like 2 did with 1. The Das3 gameplay already has Drakeblood Knights from DaS2 in it, so that's something that's coming back at least. They were cool as a vestigial bit of lore though, hunting dragons for the sole purpose of drinking their blood because it might free you from the curse. Also official screenshots have had enemies with the Drangleic crest on them and I doubt they'd be dumb enough to use something that important as a placeholder or just for visual flair in promotional material without a good reason for it. DaS3 seems to be taking evenly from 1 and 2 with plenty of its own shit in their for good measure as well.

Where did the 'Miyazaki dislikes DaS2' meme come from anyway, if you read interviews its actually the opposite.
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>>323420478
>Yes it severely hampered my enjoyment of the game in certain areas. None of it was worse than the terrible Chalice Dungeons though.

Chalice dungeons, okay. But the rest? I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
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>>323414683
Chosen Undead/Bearer of the Curse will be the final boss.
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>>323414893
He's a tutorial boss anon. He gets you use to kind of fast big guys.
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>>323420603

> I'm not even sure what you're talking about.

The bad filtering, aliasing, frame rate, chromatic abberation. Was your question not "Honestly, did you mind this while playing?" referring to the technical presentation of the game?
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>>323420478
I'm a 'primary PC user' and I loved the game and its aesthetic. A couple PP filters aren't going to bother me so much as a little bit of scratches or fog on my visor when offroading/snowboarding/whatever. Get over it. You're playing a fucking video game, aesthetic is important but it is not the whole game.
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>>323420151
I was going to say Elana was worse but then I remembered that not locking on made that fight a lot more challenging and actually fun, so yeah a worse version of Elana.

>>323420136
This was months ago I haven't played a videogame since before Christmas.
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>>323418739
No sane CE user will get softbanned. This is by far the worst thing about softbans.
I can't skip grinding because the game can detect item manipulation, but code injection is completely OK and can't be detected for shit, so enjoy getting urned.
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>>323420741

I have never, and will never be able to understand why PC players prioritize graphics over every thing else. Even a single flaw results in angry comments. Just enjoy games anon
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>>323419565
>>323419613

It would look actually great on PC is what he's saying. It's acceptable on PS4 because the art design is good.
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>>323420758

>A couple PP filters aren't going to bother me so much as a little bit of scratches or fog on my visor when offroading/snowboarding/whatever.

Framerate isn't a couple of post processing filters. Terrible aliasing and chromatic abberation ruin what could've potentially been the best looking game of last year.

>Get over it. You're playing a fucking video game, aesthetic is important but it is not the whole game.

Fuck off you apologist cunt.
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>>323420153
Did you not notice the eye cancer in day time central yarnahm? You are lying if you say that's not a bit jarring.
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>>323420638
I playtested a build where I fought a boss that looked like a generic knight but when he got to half health he exploded into a gwyn-looking fire monster. The boss was called 'The Pain of Ages' or some shit, it was in Nip. This is breaking my NDA and Bamco take this shit seriously so I'm out.
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>>323420879

>I have never, and will never be able to understand why PC players prioritize graphics over every thing else.

Putting words in my mouth to support your argument is stupid anon. Never said I put it above everything else, I said the artistry is wasted on the hardware. It would've looked stunning and ran fantastic on PC ultimately resulting in a far more enjoyable experience.
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>>323420758
He's saying it's wasted potential in terms of graphics and it is. Him being able to enjoy it despite reduced graphical fidelity isn't the issue here. Even then he said he played the game several times over so clearly he places weight on gameplay.
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>>323420997

Not him, but that does sound like you're essentially saying it didn't look good at all.
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>>323420997

It would have changed nothing for 99% of players whether it was on PC or not, because most people don't have computers capable of running the game on max settings anyways. I'm the only one of my friends who has a computer capable of high settings, and they have not once complained that their graphics being worse made the game less enjoyable.

Stop being a cunt.
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>>323421093

No it doesn't, not if you have a reading comprehension level equal to a pre-schooler.

>>323421123

>It would have changed nothing for 99% of players whether it was on PC or not, because most people don't have computers capable of running the game on max settings anyways. I'm the only one of my friends who has a computer capable of high settings, and they have not once complained that their graphics being worse made the game less enjoyable.

Stupid cop out argument, that's entirely irrelevant anon.

>Stop being a cunt.

I don't even know why you're making an issue out of this. What I'm saying is irrefutable. There's no denying it.

"Bloodborne would've looked significantly better and have run significantly smoother if there was a PC version. The fact that there wasn't is a shame as the artistry the developers put into the game didn't live up to it's full potential"

You stop being a cunt.
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>>323420924
Framerate was bad, not excusable, but I've been playing console games my whole life, used to have a toaster laptop for PC games, I can deal with it and have fun but still be critical and self aware.

Apologist? I said aesthetic is important, but it's by far the easiest aspect to look past in a video game. I'm a huge baby when it comes to aesthetic, art design, etc. but if a game has certain strengths it can be overlooked. I'd still prefer a more complete or 'perfect' game but I won't let it keep me from having fun. There are many aspects to a game and they all have different levels of importance, leniency, etc. to every person. Having such a fucking extreme level or priority for one aspect is just asking to be disappointed. I'm not saying have lower standards, I'm saying have rational or complex ones instead to enjoy things but still be self aware and critical. You're just being a fucking big baby.
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>>323418454
Disappointing in general.
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>>323421307

It kind of does when you're basically saying the game doesn't look good and only on PC would it look good
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>>323418883

Nobody?
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>>323421423

You either have terrible reading comprehension or you just haven't even read the post chain. If you had you'd see that we have mirroring opinions with me being slightly more disappointed on the technical side of things.

There's no point continuing this.
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>>323414683

But he topped it with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sr349qR9s8

In the same game.
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>>323421435

>you're basically saying the game doesn't look good

Putting words in my mouth again. Maybe you need to go back to pre-school.
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>>323419613
>They do alot of clever stuff to hide the console's shortcomings.
Even then there's the conspicuous Cleric Beast Bridge -> Lower Ward Pottery Room door.
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>>323421435
He's literally saying it looks good but doesn't live up to its full potential. Why are people pretending to be retarded?
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he won't, it won't be as good as BB, but it'll probably at least be better than DaS2 and DeS
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>>323421535
didnt read the post chain
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>>323421646

anon pls
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>>323421630
DeS has the most character. Nothing will ever compare to 3-1, 4-2, or 2-3 again.
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>>323414683
Easily, I'd hope. Maybe one day the le epik movie soundtrack memefags of the world will die.
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>>323421592

Maybe you need to stop talking like an arrogant asshole
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>>323417023

Not subjective, relative. Compared to other bosses, Cleric Beast is one of the simplest. He does not have any hugely damaging moves, and his attacks are very telegraphed and easy to avoid. He also has basically no range or elemental damage.

And you have to kill either him or BSB, and I don't know anyone who thinks BSB is easier than CB.
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>>323416486
>gwin
>better theme thank gherman

>>323421727
>3-1
nightmare of mensis

>4-2
nightmare forntier

>2-3
the dragon god is a shitty fight
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>>323421786

It only sounds like arrogance because you're an idiot.
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I feel like in the end BB will probably be seen as a top tier FROM game.

When kids 10 years from now are looking back, I think bloodborne will resound as an amazing standalone experience that's more accessible, has better art design, and is a little more timeless than Demons or Dark Souls.

I dunno, I feel that BB works better as a standalone product than any of the other games, MAYBE Dark Souls outshines it a little, but I feel it won't age as well.

Just some thoughts.
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>>323421750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucvlJxDyKAA&list=PL5451AECD2438C404&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r94mPZAapQA&index=1&list=PLCXAth3jqAKtcujjtHpJnKkwgXXGy4ls7
The best soundtracks are always either classical or directly ripped from it.
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>>323421821

No, pretty sure you're arrogant with that "pre-school" projection bullshit
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>>323421938
>bloodborne
>more accessible

I disagree

bloodborne's combat is more aggressive with more punishment but more reward than souls' passive play

and while I do think BB is the better game, dark souls was a generation defining game. Sorta like how FF9 is better than FF7 but 7 is looked upon more fondly due to its impact
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>>323422006

Shh anon, there's no need to be mad that you're stupid.
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>>323421797
>the dragon god is a shitty fight
But an amazing set piece.
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>>323422078
then i'd argue the ceaseless discharge is better at that
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>>323421938
I miss Shields and parrying though

Guns were a useless addition and the only defensive maneuver is dodge rolling

That said, Bb has the best artstyle, enemies and locations.
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>>323422006
Irrelevant, he called you out and you need to stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>323422006
>Anon being polite
>People started acting like fanboys and getting mad at him for no reason
>He's the arrogant one
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>>323422153
>Guns were a useless addition

fucking what? Integrating parry, spells, special items, and special attacks into one ammo type was a genius move
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>>323421938
DaS mainly has nostalgia value, the majority of the fans got into the series with it and it was more widely available than DeS. I did a playthrough like a month ago and already DaS1 is cracking at the seams of how well it holds up. People getting into the series from this point forward probably won't like DaS anywhere near as much as most of the fanbase likes it now. Maybe I'll be able to discuss DeS and DaS2 without shitposters popping up and being like 'lol das is better i havent played des and only played an hour and a half of das2 but its just not the same lol miyazaki is god :)' or any of that shit.
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>>323421626

Sony fanboys get triggered when people remind them games always look and play better on another platform. They want to believe their 300-400 bux box is the same as a pc due to an inferiority complex. If that anon didn't show them the time stamped ps4 and games they would be shit flinging all over. But idorts know better.

Instead they are trying to put words in his mouth and pretend the game wouldn't have objectively looked and played better on the pc even though the anon said he enjoyed it but the game wasn't at full artistic visual potential. Course that argument will go in the trash come dark souls 3.

Now look at what they are trying to devolve the argument into to get the last word so they think they won. It's a child's mentality and a shitposting tactic when they lost the argument.
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>>323421938
I think besides Demon's Souls BB is the most 'complete' game. As in, it succeeds in its design without a lot of hiccups.

DaS1 dropped off near the end, though the first half was absolutely magical. We don't even need to talk about DaS2.

But yea I was thinking the same thing. It'snot necessarily innovative but it certainly will be remembered as one of the gems from this era.
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Germans fight was fucking shit bar his starting line.
He just wails about like one of the undead ghouls at the start of DaS
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>>323422068

Yea whatever, keep shitposting kiddo.

>>323422164

No, it's not.

>>323422214

It is arrogant when you go and say someone is a kid because they're picking part your criticism
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>>323422149
Ceaseless Discharge is good in context but based on presentation alone I think Dragon God wins.
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>>323422067

>bloodborne's combat is more aggressive with more punishment

There really isn't more punishment in BB at all. There's little to no stamina management requirements you don't lose anything of rare value on death like humanity or even health. To top it all off you start with 20 blood vials and don't have to upgrade anything to get that many. You can make a thousand mistakes in a BB fights and as long as you don't get hit by a 1hit kill you can always recover back to full strength in a matter of a second or two.
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Circle strafing and holding l1 can only be so fun for so long and that's why I think I like BB more.

Promoting aggressive play was such an amazing flavor twist after DeS, DaS and DaS2.
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>>323422290
>picking apart your criticism
from
>putting words into his mouth
to
>You're arrogant waaah
he was right and and you need to suck it up
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>>323422290

>It is arrogant when you go and say someone is a kid

Incorrectly interpreting well written text generally implies a lack of education or young age.

>because they're picking part your criticism

No one did, everyone fabricated their own ideas about what I wrote and tried to twist words. I merely corrected them and added a small insult to make them check themselves.

Other anons wised up you're the last remnant don't wreck yourself.
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>>323418624
This looks like upper cathedral ward on the balcony beside the carrion crows.
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>>323422340
>rare value
>humanity

lol

the bosses also do more damage/combos to compensate for more blood vials

20 blood vials ends up healing about the same as 5 +7 estus anyway and if you kindle then it's a fuck ton

or just pop a humanity for max health
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>>323422290
>picking part your criticism
You mean creating a strawman to pick apart because he made a sensible comment you couldn't shitpost about?

No, anon, he's right. You're a pre-schooler.
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>>323422403

Playing aggressive in the Souls games is actually the more optimal way to play. People who are scared to drop the shield don't know this. Put down the shield anon pick up the power stance or great sword
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>>323422153

>That said, Bb has the best artstyle,
Its just 3-x copy pasted everywhere with a worse atmosphere

>enemies
God no, most of the humanoids have the same moveset, the beasts are just reskinned skeleton dogs form the Tomb of Giants, the bosses are just wailing matches with spamming vials, the pvp segments just revolve round hp tanks spamming their infinite ammo guns and the game tries its hardest to work against the parry system. DaS wins this

>and locations.
Its basically the same for the most part, spooky dark everything, would argue even DaS2 with places like Loyce had better locations
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>>323422476

I never put any words in his mouth

>>323422487

Who fabricated a thing? People asked if you were saying if the game looked bad.

>>323422545

Didn't even remotely make a strawman. Nice try.
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>>323422639

>Who fabricated a thing? People asked if you were saying if the game looked bad.

This is where you openly prove that you have terrible reading comprehension. I will say this as I said to another poster.

There's no point continuing this.
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I see the bloodborne fapping club is here
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>>323422696

Yea, no. My comprehension is just fine. Nobody fabricated anything.
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>>323422630
>worse atmosphere

wew
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>>323422234
DeS holds up today. But DaS babbies are overly vocal and are shit as usual.

See this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da2DbvPS37Y
Careful, has tears. Also invader is apparently banned. I laughed. Good times indeed.

>DaS1 is cracking at the seams of how well it holds up.
Get to Dukes Archive and Lost Izalith. Give up because sooo boring and areas are massive just because you are small in DaS1. Also, slow animations and way too forgiving.
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>>323422403
aggressive play has always been superior, bub. it just took someone forcibly removing your ability to turtle for you to realize it.
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>>323422783
>goes into a thread about bloodborne
>OP is bloodborne music
>expects people to not be talking about bloodborne

Anon, what.
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>>323422630
spotted the PCuck
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>>323419964
well but DS has more than like 10 weapons unlike BB
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>>323422630
>locations are the same

If you're gonna argue about games you've never played, at least choose a more plausible complaint.
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>>323422912
So is this the power of BB threads? Everyone calling each other PCucks?

What a terrible fanbase.
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>>323415826
Why in the world would you have gotten Dark Souls II on PS3?
Demon's Souls is lovely and I played Dark Souls on the PS3. But those games have performance issues. Dark Souls is a lot better on PC and replaying it on PC was much more enjoyable than playing it on the PS3.

Knowing the performance differences between Dark Souls on PS3 versus Dark Souls on PC, and knowing ahead of time that Dark Souls II would be on PC. Why get it for the PS3?
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>>323422925
BB has 26 weapons, all are unique with the exception of saw clever/spear. All of them have a second form with entirely new moves except boom hammer and tonitrus

DS has like 9 categories for weapons where more than half the weapons in it have the same animations/movesets. there is more variety and quality in BB

>>323423002
no one except those who havn't played BB can claim DaS2 has better areas
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>>323422886
It'd be neater if the invader had the Scraping Spear lol, but I'm interested now so I'll watch the whole damn thing.
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>>323422898

Turtling was effective if you literally pumped STR and put yourself in the heaviest armour and biggest shield you can get but not many people committed to that.

The hardest bosses in DS could be waited out with Havel/Artorias greatshields.
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>>323422625
>power stance
>implying I'm playing that shitty sequel again
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>>323414683
I feel like, if the Bloodborne DLC is any indicator, the only thing that could possibly prevent them from topping this would be Bandai Namco fucking them up the ass. I thought that the fight against Gehrman was great, but Orphan of Kos and Lady Maria topped it easily, in my opinion.
>The melancholy in Lady Maria's track.
>The subtle alien feeling behind some parts.
>That Orphan of Kos track.
>The mercy and sympathy at the start.
>The realisation that you're dealing with the nascent source of the nightmare and that he will fuck you up.
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>>323423146
Speak of the devil, he just pulled out the Cunting Spear.
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>>323422898
>aggressive play has always been superior, bub
This idea is why The Four Kings have a reputation of somehow being hard even though they are among the easiest bosses of the entire franchise.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPP1e7hOyik

I seriously hope DaS3 has a boss like this. That mid cutscene and name change for the health bar was great.
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>>323419701
>overblown orchestral melodrama makes it better
true pleb
and Ludwig's theme rehashes "Demon's Souls" and "The Beginning" from the Demon's Souls OST
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>>323422853

The souls games are changing and have a ton of variation and stories going alongside each other. In BB everyone just doesn't give a fuck about the hunt and most of the areas rotate around the three same themes of church/spooky/graveyards and never strays from those themes. It does wear thin after a while especially since it borrows so heavily from DeS

>>323422912

Nah

>>323422969

There really isn't an awful lot of difference between the Nightmare of Mensis and yharnam
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>>323417562
the dumpster
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>can enter boss door when there is invader

this is the worst part of souls games after DeS

why the fuck did they do this and not get rid of it? you can just zoom passed everything to the boss
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>>323424085
>Smurf tower in DS2 without being able to run to the Gargoyles like a nigger

NO TY ANON
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>>323424174
>offline
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>>323420741
Yes. I'm surprised you for that impression of the game, probably because you played it alt more than I did. I didn't notice any of that except for some framedrops.
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How the fuck is Miyazaki going to top THIS
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>>323424471

Not that guy but did you do any of the chalice dungeons, the framerate goes far below blighttown regularly
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>>323424768
Artorias and Ludwig say that the topper will be in the DLC.
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>>323424768
that cutscene of the moonlight sword was hype as fuck
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>>323414683
Of The Pthumerian Line is a way, way better boss theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFhsZNNfmdE
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>>323422886
Yeah recently replayed all games and DeS holds much better than DaS if you ask me.

DaS is incredibly clunky, has many really boring areas and the weapon upgrade system was butchered hard. Also like you said I almost given up in Duke Archives, big empty areas with nothing in them
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>>323424768
obligatory
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>>323414683
S P E E D
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>>323425303
whats this from?
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>>323425753
The single biggest influence on the souls games.
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>>323425753
>he hasn't read Berserk
git gud hunter
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>>323424895
Both Artorias and Ludwig were hyped up as really cool dudes in the main game that we never get to face until they end up in the DLC. I'm willing to take bets on DaS3 DLC once we have a firm grasp of the lore to guess which unencountered character we'll fight as the cherry on top of the DLC cake.
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>>323425126
I like how it samples elements of the Moon Presence theme, like your dealings with the Pthumerians are bringing you closer and closer but not quite all the way to the truth.
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>>323425303
Holy fuck I've never seen this edit before. It's a really fucking well done one.
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As long as the game has a coherent map I'm happy.
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>>323423282
Isn't FROM is now owned by someone else or does Bamco still have a grip on their balls?
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>>323423775
>I never played the game, the areas have no variety.
OK then.
>Cityscape.
>An abandoned old town with noticeably older architecture.
>Area around Grand Cathedral.
>Forest setting outside of Yharnam, settled by witches.
>Grand medieval castle in a snowy area.
>Spooky forest.
>The mysterious remains of a campus.
>A grand area of Yharnam with comparatively odd architecture.
>A strangely mutilated version of a university lecture building.
>Odd, floating nightmare realm that clearly takes inspiration from the Giant's Causeway. There are swamps scattered about the area, too.
>Dark nightmarish realm with spiralling, ridiculous architecture. Landscape is made of strange solidified corpses.
>A nightmare version of Yharnam.
>A spiralling, vertical research hall that leads into plenty of other rooms, with a rotating spiral staircase.
>A fishing hamlet on some alien plane, connected to a coast.
PLAY THE GAME.
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>>323427717

The Lecture hall was so weird. I go there and it feels all mundane and then you go into the presenation areas themselves and get mobbed by a bunch of pathetic blob-students, and then after you kill them there's a few just sitting in seats doing nothing.

It was bizarre and mundane at the same time.
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He will easily top it with the eclipse that will happen in Dark Souls 3.
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>>323427708
They were bought by Kadokawa, the biggest anime and manga publisher in the world. They have a stake in pretty much every industry you can imagine, but an awful vidya division. The acquisition of From is meant to help rectify that. BB and DaS3 were From's last contracted games before the sale so after DaS3 and any DLC they're required to do under contract is released, all future projects will be published by and likely co-developed by Kadokawa.
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>>323427896
I guess I agree that it was pretty mundane.
It's more of a hub than a proper 'level', though.
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>>323414774
what do you think this is? a pc?
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>>323425753
Rape Horse.
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>>323427930
It looks like the Abyss stuff teased AotA and the Chaos stuff teased in CotIK are both being fully realised here, and simultaneously to boot. I really am excited to see how the fuck everything links together and how the series ends.
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>>323428714
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>>323414683
>do random shit the entire game
>talk to that one guy at home
>listen, everything is a dream, let me kill you so you wake up
>ok
>It was all a dream. The End.
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>>323428651

Yeah but it was refreshing too. Sort of a breather area.
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>>323428698
>implying there are pc games that do this
>implying there are worthwile action games on pc besides dmc
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>>323428792
>letting Gehrman kill you and prolonging his suffering because he's a good person
>not killing him so that he can finally be at peace after his decades of service
>not chowing down on some ayylmao placenta beforehand so you can not only free Gehrman from his servitude but also kill his captor and become an ayylmao yourself
You even get the Plain Doll as your momfu. Life is great.
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>>323429393
>>323428792

I'm still not really sure who the player is. Are we in-universe with Yharnam or not?
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Father Gazpacho is a dirty cunt
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>From will never fix the best weapon in game
>post-patch, STILL no massive hyper armor on the charged attack
>Meme blade still isn't nerfed
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>>323429393
To be honest that's my real goal all along.
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>>323428783
You best keep posting nigger
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>>323429251
you mean blood decals that stay around?
even skyrim did that. not much modded skyrim.
>implying dank soles, shooters, m&b, severance, dark messy arrrggg... arent on pcs.
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>>323430278
>you mean blood decals that stay around?
nope, i mean coloring the enviroment with blood, not some shitty, drawn in decals
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What is best in life:
caressing Doll's head
or
having Doll caress your head
?
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>>323427930

If they manage to pull off this shot even 75% of the quality I see here I'll be fucking blown away.
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>>323430489
>drawing the environment with bloods
>not shitty blood decals
cluesless sonyggers shill detected. you can randomly paint it with blodd for muh artistic vision but a competent dev can make variation of blood decals and behaviors to make it organic and immersive.
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>>323416632

Gascoigne is so much easier than CB because you aren't fighting against a boss AND the camera, wtf
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>>323416632
>You can quit at Gascoin tho
Shitter detected.
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>>323423002
Yep. Less than a week after the game was out threads were basically nothing but everyone circlejerking over hating PC
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>>323430239
Those two are the only pages I've just got lying around that aren't in a massive rar for the whole volume.
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>>323430489
Killing floor 2 has the flex system which can create 3d volumetric blood that interacts with its environment.
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>>323418318
the new ultra greatsword looks amazing, I'm glad they're taking notes from bloodborne when it comes to combat and having every button do something(like rolling r2s and the l2 sword arts.)
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Whats the best starting weapon and why is it cane?
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>>323424768
I'll never understand this.

This is the most fanservicey thing in ANY FROM game to this point. And people lap it up.

Never change Souls community

>inb4 spotted PCcuck
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>>323432069
>fanservicey thing
the game is made to entertain you, you blind fuck
There is LITERALLY no cons from doing so and it makes the game better as a result, you are a PCuck you can spot it a mile away you fucking faggot.
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>>323418667
I play on console every time because I seriously couldnt stand the cheaters. There are still some on PS versions of the games but nowhere near as much as on PC. 0 fucks given, that shit ruins my personal experience, no amount of grafix will alleviate that shit.
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>>323432069
>fanservice is always wrong
>pandering is always wrong
it's only wrong when it's lazy, cynical and distracting. This is neither.
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>>323421938
I think Im seriously going to miss the dodging and trick weapons(essentially you build yourself for using one weapon but are infact able to use two) guns were shit in my opinion wasnt a fant of the rally thing.

I keep going back and playing DaS every so often and I can feel how slow and clunky it is comparatively, and it seriously fucking sucks how methodical the combat is. That said though, looking at gameplay of 3 it looks to be way faster and less rythmatic, the enemies dont just stop attacking because they hit you now. Another thing to note that there was never any shit point in BB, where in DaS as soon as you kill O and S the game takes a nosedive in enjoyment, BB never suffered that at any point and went from strength to strength, never a point in the game where you roll your eyes at the prospect of going through it, like dragon ass hell for example.
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>>323417562
>getting endurance that high that fast
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>>323433728
>never a point in the game where you roll your eyes at the prospect of going through it
Chalice dungeons.
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>>323414683
I prefer female Gehrman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mByDcrNSV0
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>>323433992
Optional.
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>>323414683
They wont, and the fromdrones will eat it up anyway.
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>>323434095
Not if you want to get all the achievements since you've gotta kill Queen Yharnam.
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>>323434250
>achievements
Not that guy, and not tryinf to defend the shit that was challice dungeons. But who the fuck cares about achivements?
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>>323414683
TONIGHT, GEHRMAN JOINS THE HUNT
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>>323434250
If youre autism demands you get 100% achievements then yes, the dungeons are boring. Its still entirely avoidable and not necessary to go through the game but if you like.
>>
POST HOONTAHS
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>>323419613
>tiny drops at some places
You clearly have not gotten to second phase of rape horse
That phase is 15 fps at best
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>>323422905
>bloodborne thread = from thread
gee
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>>323427717

Fuck you I have played it and done most of the chalices, the only area which was different and new was the Loran Chalice.
Your just over describing shit to prove a point and breaking up stuff like the forests which are exactly the same, the cainhurst castle which feels like the castle in the nightmare and just writing pure drivel about the spooky church architecture which has been spammed everywhere.
The saddest part of BB is the fact none of the areas feel alien even though part of the games dedicated to that
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>>323431509
God damn, that looks so much better than the first two. I started with Bloodborne and worked backwards and it's so jarring how bad the animation is. Enemies rarely/barely flinch, there's no blood or any other damage-indicating visual effect. It all looks and feels like a PS2 game.
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>>323416128
Why was it in the tower, what was it being used for?
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