I have nothing against pc gaming but these comparisons are retarded

>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper
It's not. First you pay 450€ for the console, then 70€ for a single game, and probably as much for any DLC.

>>323324690
>1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
why's this retarded exactly? Consolecux seldom even want to think of building their own system, and you can create a total PS4-killer for less than 400 bucks nowadays, from brand new parts. Been possible for two years now.
>2)Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
As are most PCs, and a basic KB+M set costs you anything from NOTHING to 15 bucks tops. OS you can get absolutely free, both legally and with questionable means.
>3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
The difference with PSN sales is the fact that they seldom offer notable reductions in prices for the latest games, and just about never as huge price drops as Steam. Also there ARE still physical copies for PC games, and you can even trade or sell digital games of yours on PC.

Finally, the PC has the benefit of having superior multiplats, ways of customizing and modding your games, free online gaming, better multitasking capabilities, and near unlimited backwards compatibility with the 10k+ games available for it.

>>323325470
PC does that as well.

>in b4 hurr durr I pirate everything

>>323325470
The same game and dlc would be the same price on pc

>>323325470
Plus the additional $50 a year if you want to use any online services.

Low quality is cheaper than high quality, who fucking knew.

>>323326347
The PS4 killer PC you claim is so easy is straight up bullshit.
And I don't know if you've ever seen PSN flash sales but you're absolutely wrong. Couple-month-old games dio by 10-30% all the time and older games/Indies can go down by 75% easy.

No one considers that consoles also go on sale.

Sure you can build a console killer using discounted parts for $400, but you can get a console for like $240 on black Friday.

>>323324690
>Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales
You lost credibility there. There is no way that you can compare them

>buy used console for less than 200 dollars
>comes with game and controller
>outperforms 200 dollar PC built with used parts
>alternatively steal everything and just play games on any platform

checkmate atheist
your money competition is useless

>have to pay for PSN
>"free" games are always bad now and have been since PS4 came out
>games are more expensive at launch
>sales only happen once a week with a handful of games meaning you'll have to wait possibly a year or more for a game you want to go on sale
>discounts aren't as deep as on PC games

Most of these console killers sure can perform better than consoles, but it's still subpar gaming
I want to play 1080/60 fps, not 1080/50 with drops

>>323327994
>psn sales
dogshit

>>323328287
>discounts aren't as deep as on PC games
Yea when you compare a 7 year old game on sale for $5 to a 1 year old game on sale for $36, your outlook tends to get cloudy.

>>323328602
>I want to play 1080/60 fps, not 1080/50 with drops
don't buy a console then

>>323325470
Plus another $400 in 5 years on the next console

>>323328754
Compare the same games fuckwit. Its always cheaper on PC.
Not to mention you can get any PC game at a discount on or before release if you just take 5 seconds to Google around. Got GTAV, Witches 3, Fallout 4 all for 30 bucks each on release.

>>323328971
Yeah a $400 PC will totally last you for 5+ years without upgrades

>>323329173
My 760 has lasted me since release and I'm still running games at max settings

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>>323328821
I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting, especially in any multiplayer game, moreso than stable 30 fps. I honestly don't undestand how people can play on unstable framerete on any platform

>>323329317
Stop bullshitting
I have overclocked 670 and it's far from maxing out games now
Unless you play on 1999 resolution

>>323329173

5 years go by
>trash console/no longer play it cause its no longer good
>replace gpu of pc and install drivers

which one is less retarded?

>>323329317
700-series launched what, 2,5 years ago?

>recent games at max settings
at 1080p? sure. at 60fps? no.

>>323329538
Mgs5, Witcher 3, and shadows of mordor all on max with better support than consoles by far

>>323329559
>replace GPU twice a year

All pcfats do it whether they admit it or out. The only people who still rock HD7870s and other comparable examples are just super poor.

>>323329559
a medium tier gpu is still $200+

and honestly after 5 years you might very well need to replace the mobo/cpu aswell if you went with a medium build to begin with

>>323326347
>OS you can get absolutely free legally
care to spoonfeed?

>>323324690
Im idort. In my eyes, it's really fucking simple:
If my PC can run it and it exists on it, i'll play it on PC. If it's not on PC, my PC can't run it or the game overall is better to be played from couch, i'll have it on console.

As for prices i rarely buy anything at launch. Steam or Gamestop, i'll wait for discounts, sometimes buy console game used and then ship it back.

Funfact: Pc games cannot be sold after bought (at least not in Finland.) so in long run, console is very minorly cheaper.

For piratefags, it doesn't fucking matter what you play with.

>>323329104
Tell me how much bloodborne costs on Steam.

>>323330191
Linux I guess.

>>323324690
You are right.
Its a really bad comparison because it always ignores that you will waste hundreds of dollars on paid online with the PS4.

>>323329317
Stop lying you little shit. Maybe if you play games at 720p. Below the fucking xbone.

>>323329559
>trash console cause its no longer good
Who the fuck does that?

>>323327351
Minus all the free games that gets you so we actually make money.

>>323329104
>any PC game at a discount on or before release if you just take 5 seconds to Google around
If you're going that route just pirate the damn game.

>>323326347
This is the post of a child who fell for the pc master race meme.

>>323326619
there is nothing to hurr durr about
I pirate grand majority of my games

>>323330191
win10 is free on microsoft website

>>323331121
Isnt that just a free upgrade?

>>323324690
People who think PC gaming is cheaper are legit retarded.
PC gaming costs double because it's thrice as good. You spend a bit more to have a lot more.

>>323331453
This is pretty much what it all comes down to.

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>mfw once Denuvo becomes more used price of PC games will go up.

>>323331453
Yeah, people seem to forget that a PC can do just about anything. That's what you're paying for, that just about anything.

>>323330564
Let me guess, you bought a console...

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>tfw I dumped so much brit bongs into my PC that I get extremely triggered when I can't run a new game stable 60fps on Ultra
It's 2016 for Gods sake. This shouldn't be allowed.

>>323331934
>4 monitors
>8 hard drives

for what purpose

>>323324690
the thing is, you cant use a console for work, so if you are already buying both a console and a work pc, why not just upgrade the latter into a gaming pc?

>>323329791
Oh fuck you. My 980 Ti barely manages 60fps on Witcher with max settings.

>>323331736
Wont change a thing.
Piracy isnt why games are cheaper.
Steam devaluing the whole market is.

>>323332108
For some people the small handful of exclusives makes a big enough difference.

>>323331934
>6 hard drives
>4 screens
You shouldn't care about how much your paid for it, but your damn electircity bill.

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>>323332068
games & animes

>>323324690
you CANNOT build a PC that will run modern games for 400$. you can make a PC that is technically better than a PS4, but PC games are generally so unoptimized (probably on purpose) that you will not run them above 20fps on anything over 720p.

source: I tried

it doesn't work, a graphics card capable of running games from this gen on 1080+ is 200$ alone.

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how can anyone deny that console gaming is far cheaper?

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>>323324690
>free games on psn

Something you pay for is not free.

>>323331934
thats a lot of porn

how poor do you have to be that you can't afford a ~1000€ PC once in a while? are you all fucking NEETs?

>>323332625
>because something costs more money you should buy it

No

I bought 15 PC games + a shitload of DLC with the money I would have used to buy 3, maybe 4 console games.

I did the math too, would have been able to buy 44 PC games if I stuck with the cheapest stuff in my wishlist.

>>323332457
redditors who try to convince themselves that PC gaming is flawless and superior to console gaming in every way. This is coming from someone who built a $1400 PC, console gaming is cheaper but I wanted to be able to play the Witcher 3 Maxed out as do others and thats just the truth

>>323332829
You can buy over 10 NES games on WiiU for the price of a full price PC game ($60)

See how retarded that sounds also?

>>323332768
Well no, you shouldn't buy it just because it costs more money.

You should buy it for the benefits the added cost gives you.

>>323333031
We are talking AAA games here, not indie garbage.

Things that only sony ponies believe:

>PSN gives has free games!

>>323333031
Your argument is dumb because you are comparing shitty, ancient games to AAA releases though.

I bought AAA releases, including the Witcher 3, the Saints Row games, Sleeping Dogs, Battlefield 4 and Rocket League.

>>323333134
Probably on sale.

PC games and console games are usually the same price on release.

PS4/XB1 games usually drop in price pretty fast, you can get many games brand new for $20 which is pretty good considering its physical and not a steam rental.

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ive had this pc for about 3 years now and can still run pretty much anything at max. havent tried fallout 4 for obvious reasons (its still 60 bucks on steam)
Both gaming plats (pc and console) have their own pros and cons, it is really just based on preference in my opinion. i mean i game on PC but i also have a ps4 and xbone.

>>323333507
>steam rental
wut? since when does steam rent games

>>323331383
there is a media tool you can install on flashdrive and I've installed it on couple of PC's

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>>323332108
>/v/
>work
The type of person who posts bait consolewar threads doesn't have a job

>>323333507
>steam rental

Games I buy on Steam for $5, some even multiple times to gift to friends, are rented.

Games you get with PSN that you can't access if you stop paying are FREE.

>>323324690
I would argue that PC gaming is better overall, particularily for the enthusiast but also that people that misrepresent facts to make their argument or fail to realize that consoles fit better for some people's lives they are doing nobody, certainly not themselves, any favors.

PC generally ends up fairly expensive and although some of the pre-builts are decent they partially defeat the point

Consoles are easier to transport unless you get a laptop which again partially defeats the point

I'll probably always play primarily on PC but it's worth looking at consoles always

>>323333840
Being better than PSN doesnt mean shit. That shit is fucking awful.

>>323333840
name some examples because ive never heard of that lol either you are trolling or you dont use steam. Even if i have no internet i can still play all my games and i have about 900$ worth of games

>>323332540
I'm part of the TRUE master race, the idort, but it's like four bucks a month. I'd pay that for just the convenience of automatic cloud backup. It's greedy, sure, but you actually get a quality product unlike other certain free but shoddy MP platforms which often get a pass on here.

>>323324690

Once a new console gen comes out, you need to shell out for a whole new console. Sure, you can sell your current one, but then you lose out on all of the games you had before. With PC you can keep running shit into the next gen by turning the settings down, or buying an upgrade that'll be cheaper than a whole new, release price console would be. You also have the benefit of not having to find space for each console you own because you only ever need one computer tower.

Long term, PC gaming is way better. Hell, thanks to emulation PCs can play more console games than consoles can.

I don't have anything against consoles or PC either way, but I don't see why there's this ongoing dick waving contest going on between the two.

>>323324690
People saying console gaming is cheaper obviously don't play online as that can add $500 to $1000 dollars on top due to the cost.

Having Xbox Live for the life of the console (around 8 years) if using the yearly cost ($120 dollars from M$) goes to $960, for the same money (~$1500) you can get a high end gaming rig which is a direct upgrade.

PS4 is cheaper but still the same cost as a high end gaming rig ($1000).

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I used to buy single player games on my xbox 360. In the end you pay kinda lot for them.
Since I built my pc i just pirate single player and buy few multi. It ends cheaper this way for me.

>>323333840
if you buy games on steam you own them, a rental is temporary ownership

>>323329173
lol what the fuck? yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.

besides, upgrading a GPU or CPU is a lot cheaper then buying a whole new system


consolefags i swear

>>323334464
agreed

>>323326619
I've pirated the last 20 games i played with the exception of black ops 3,on console i would've never played those games

>>323333716
False flag faggots operating on the "if steam goes down, you lose access to your games!" shit.

The terrible secret behind the idea is that services like PSN and Xbox live will disappear before Steam does.

>>323334092
That was my point, for all intents and purposes I own those games. I couldn't care less about plastic boxes, one page manuals or my games taken away from me.

>>323324690
>call it "console killer"
>still get nothing but console ports from years ago

top fucking kek

>>323324690
Who the hell buys their operating system?

>>323334613
i pirated new vegas ultimate for the lulz and also mortal kombat komplete. was not dissappointed

>>323327959
What a shit argument,one can assume that the pc parts can go on sale as well, thats like saying console gaming is cheaper because you got it for free as a gift

>>323334635
bro im on steam's side. i said even if i had no internet i can still play all my games on steam, lol why the hostility friend?

>but but but valve is going to take away all your games

no. theyre not.

>>323334464
>yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.
You'll have to settle for less.

Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps? a $400 build today will likely have a 750ti or equivalent, no fucking way will that hold it for years to come.

>>323334648
sorry i misunderstood lol

>>323334964
>Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

>>323335036
kek. my pc still gets 60fps on most games. 30fps on new games recently released. all at 1080

>>323334964
>You'll have to settle for less

By using a console you're settling for less anyway, and you can't upgrade it to make the experience better.

>Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps?

You fucking wish it was

>>323330261
Exclusives are horrible for arguments regarding the quality of the platform and they are bad for the health of the game industry. Theres literally no positives to a game being console exclusive

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>>323334964
top kek

>>323324690
Console gaming is more expensive in the long run if you are an avid video games enthusiast. PC is the ultimate poorfag machine, there's a reason why sandinggers are all on PC.

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>>323324690
>console gaming is cheaper
Get better at math you stupid fuck. the price you pay at the cash register is merely the down payment, and get ready to pay for your shit toy box FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRR

>>323335374
>750ti manages to hold about 30fps on gta 5 high settings today
>it will still manage it on new games 5 years from now
>I'm the retarded one
okay anon

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>>323334892
>valve takes VAC bans you
>can still play single player games
>can still play multiplayer games on unsecured servers

>ms bans you
>be publicly ridiculed on their forums while pretending to be your parents
>not only bans accounts but console too

At lest I own my games! Look at my pretty boxes and manuels.

>>323335859
dont ever disrespect the 750ti pleb.

one point of a pc is that you are allowed to spend more than $400 to get hardware that isn't complete ass.

you don't have that option with consoles.

>>323335859
i dont understand? Is your console hardware becoming magically more powerful as time goes on?

>>323324690
>free games on PSN
>paid subscription service

anon...

>>323335943
>valve takes VAC bans you
maybe if you would git gud instead of cheating you wouldnt have to worry about it, oh i forgot you spend more time arguing over voice chat to ever git gud.

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>>323336136
I'm not even a consolefag you fucking idiot what the fuck, I'm just being realistic

>>323330810
>Free
>get

i think you mean "paid for" and "rent"

>>323326945
Except they wouldnt be.
Games are always cheaper on PC.

>>323324690
>Free games on PSN

That you pay a monthly fee on that doesn't exist on pc (nor should exist on consoles).

You can get an OS for free completely legally, Linux, and like a console OS it is also complete ass for gaming.

With a computer, you also get, well, a computer.

I don't know why anyone would want game boxes around anymore. They are not even unique like most old printed game boxes, they are generic plastic case with a sheet of paper stuck in them.

Game manuals stopped existing like 4 years ago too so why bother?

>>323336221
i like dat rig u got son lol

>>323335675
>1 year membership
>49.99 usd

haha wtf, to use a consoles full functions you have to take on some payment plan? Why? It's worse than a PC

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>>323336136
>more powerful as time goes

Yes, actually.

>>323329983

GPU generations aren't even that short, shitposter-kun.

>>323325470
dont forget extra controllers

yeah i want a cd that can be damaged and ill have to buy another. fucking plebs.

>>323329983
ive had my gpu since 2012 you dumbass

>>323336493
you can't damage a CD unless you're retarded or a little kid
are you 12?

>>323336221
>fucking idiot what the fuck

thats how i feel. You're telling me that a 750ti wont maintain 30fps 1080p for 5 years unlike a console. But what kind of sense does that make? A consoles hardware isnt getting better as time goes on, the framerates either get worse, or the graphics are toned down to accommodate, its the same shit as having a budget GPU

>>323324690
Console gaming is not "cheaper" because your gaming pc replace your old pc. If you own a console you still need a laptop/desktop pc to be able to shitpost on /v/. With a gaming pc you can both play video games and post on /v/.

>>323336680
no but i have children, and animals, i guess you will never understand because you will be forever alone. also the sensor itslf can be easily dislodged and scratch a cd pretty descent

>>323328971
and a minimum of $250 for PSN/Live in that 5 years.

>>323336746
don't wanna meme on you but the whole "optimization" thing is an actual thing

You can see the hypocrisy on both fucking sides of the argument

Also who the fuck pays full price for psn or gold?

You can get a 12 months key from popular key sites for less than half price. I've been doing this for years. This year I got 12 months gold for even less because of black friday and picked up 12 months, elder scrolls online and farcry 4 for less than the regular price of a 12 months card and still had money left over

>>323336887
i like you anon

>>323336950
>no but i have children, and animals,
so you just leave all your CDs around the room?
shelves exist for a reason

>>323337052
ok? The graphics are toned down to accommodate weaker hardware. So when you have a budget GPU you start lowering settings to make the game run acceptably.

Its the same thing.

>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper ,
It's not

Games on console are flat out more expensive here in the UK

If I choose between retailers I can get a new/preordered pc title for £20
For that same game on console I can usually at best get it for £35

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>>323337154
no because i don't own any cd's you autistic fuck lol.

>>323336746
Consoles get optimization. The games only look marginally worse despite the difference in hardware. PC is a shit platform filled with entitled little faggots, developers don't give a shit about it,they'll just shit out an unoptimized glitchfest port and tell you to buy the lasted Nvidia card, and you'll happilly do it.

>>323337087
Thanks anon. What console warriors fail to understand is that the point of the gaming pc is to use your everyday PC to play video games as well. It's just practical. And cheap in itself because you NEED a pc nowadays. The only people who don't own a PC are elderly. And even then all my grandparents own a PC with internet nowadays.

>>323337279
>Consoles get optimization.

holy shit this board is dumb. optimization isnt some console exclusive concept

MGSV is a perfect example of why pc is better. look at the difference in graphics

>>323329401
>I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting, especially in any multiplayer game, moreso than stable 30 fps.
This is some bad bait.

>>323331934
what cooler are you using?

>>323337332
yep. i use mine for pretty much everything from work to fap

>>323337387
It's more effective on consoles though.

>>323337332
A laptop is better for general computing purpose. As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go.

>>323331934
>4 monitors
>6 HDDs
>An SSD
>Only an R9 290/290x
You for real nigger?

>>323337526
can you explain why?

On PC you lower graphical effects and you get better performance. That's what they're doing when they "optimize" your console games.

>>323337387
It almost is. I can't remeber any optimized game I played on PC from the last couple of years. Even traditionally PC franchises run like shit.

>>323337576
I have a desktop pc and play games on my sofa

I don't get your point

>>323337576
>As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go

then play your pc games on a big comfy couch with a big ass TV

>>323329317
>760
>implying it can max out any recent AAA game even @720p and 60fps

I'm all for PC gaming, but it's not for poorfags.
It's about the possibilities consoles don't have (mods and performance) and gaining the best results. You'd have to be retarded to think any of that is possible without spending some actual money on your rig.

>>323337683
Oh, I didn't know that driver updates actually just lowered my graphics settings.

>>323329401
>frame
Turn off the damn v-sync if your toaster can't keep up.

>>323337739
you must run a toaster then
>>323337576
my desktop is also positioned where i game on my sofa. gtfo with your craptop fuckery

>>323337824
what the fuck?

>>323337576
>a laptop is better
Eeeh? Really? Those things are way too fucking slow unless you buy an expensive one. Also that's retarded, you can be comfy on your PC too.

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>>323337526
Not really, in most cases they just lower resolution, texture quality, shader quality, model quality, etc. etc.
Not to mention they'll often tone down or outright disable things like tessellation (some examples of this are Tomb Raider Definitive and Metro Redux, which don't use tessellation on consoles).
An example of this would be Uncharted 4 MP vs SP.
MP looks much MUCH worse than SP and even then it still can't sustain a constant 60 FPS while running at 900p.

>>323337526
System requirments keep increasing on PC but the games look only marginally better than the console counterpart. How do you explain that?

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>used console
>it always reeks of ash and is stained by smokers tar
>no one ever checks that they work correctly

>used pc parts
>often still has lifetime warranty
>usually fully refurbished

its like not even close to comparable

>>323336680
Except you can. THe PS4was of such poor build quality that the first batch could actually scratch the disc while it was spinning in the drive.

the xbox 360 had the same problem

>>323337576
Nah, even for my finance schoolwork I prefer my desktop.
Laptops have shit for screen real estate, they don't have an actual mouse, and they're generally slower.
The mouse adds so much to my computing experience it's not even a fair comparison, even using Excel on my laptop is a pain in the ass since the trackpad is garbage.

>>323337983
And then there's games that look great and run great (max payne 3 and war thunder spring into mind)

How a nigga explain dat shiz

>>323338056
i actually stated that in the post he was replying to

>>323324690
>only mentioning PSN
Go back to neogaf. No one wants your here.

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>>323337983
>but the games look only marginally better than the console counterpart.
I love this meme.
Just so you know, the PC in this image is running on medium settings.

>>323329791
>Witcher 3 max settings
>better support than consoles
>760
This is why the PC community is doomed. You don't even notice how shit your hardware is right now.

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>>323333604
I thought I was the only guy on /v/ with a 2320.
I thought it was just a stop-gap until Ivy-Bridge came out, but it turned out there wasn't enough reason to upgrade. Now I wish I had got the 2500k but oh well, ~700mhz isn't the end of the world.

>>323331934
>waah I can't run recent AAA games at 60fps at 1080p on multiple monitors
>R9 290X

It's because you're a stupid piece of shit.

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>>323338252
thank you anon

>>323329317
This.

Fuck, my 280 still does almost every game I want to play at max.

>>323337798
>>323337808
>>323337920

How many people do you think play their PC in their living room? How do you play your daily 6 hours of assfaggots? On your TV? No, you sit at your shitty desk and destroy your eyes with a shitty 19" monitor while you destroy your prostate with a Gabe Newell dildo.

>>323337952
>>323338135
Too poor for a laptop heh? How's that mom's basement?

>>323338341
it runs great even now and overclocks at 3.2

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>>323334424
>"""owning""" proprietary softwares

>>323338210
this.
Go back to gaf OP. xbox live and nintendo eshop both have weekly sales also.

>>323338523
i play on my 72 inch flatscreen tv in my living room, get raped faggot. go back to your 17 inch screen with no mouse

>>323338252
Well, it does only marginally look better. If you were to play the PS4 version you wouldn't even notice.

You should have posted one of those modded skyrim picture.

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>>323338461
The 280/280x/7970/GHz are all great.
My 280x can even pull off 1440p60 and rarely 4k30 in some games.
>>323338523
>Too poor for a laptop heh?
Nah, I have a $110 netbook that I use for school, PSP emulation, and old games.
I prefer my desktop for gaming at home and my WiiU for gaming in bed.
Laptops are honestly garbage even for browsing the internet compared to a computer.

>>323338543
Yeah I had trouble with the original heatsink so I bought a 212 Evo and I've been running it at 3.7ghz for 3+ years without problem.

>>323326945
Really?

Because I originally bought space marine for consoles, never bought a DLC, then I bought it on PC with all the dlc included for half the price of a single DLC on console, even when discounted.

>>323338682
>Well, it does only marginally look better.
Yep, on medium settings.
So you agree that consoles are weak and can only pull off low settings?

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>>323337907
I don't use vsync ever, you dumb fuck. It's not my problem you can't notice when game goes below 60, 1 or 10 frames. It's especially noticeable in fast paced games, where you start to experience input disturbances.

>>323324690
If you want to get into PC gaming without making a big investment in the start you might as well get a console or get nothing at all and save up your money for a decent PC.

>>323338523
>too poor for a craptop
i just spat coffee all over my lap. i make 1500 dollars a week for penetration testing you dumbass, get a degree in information tech. and ethical hacking then attempt to insult me. lolol

>>323338523
So the fact that literally everyone doesn't use their pc in their lounge means that it's not possible?

What kind of argument is this? I thought we were discussing the benefits of pcs vs consoles not creating weird fucking accusations

>>323338894
>I would rather play at 30 FPS than 59-60 FPS
This is some advanced autism.

>>323338703
My Atom convertible works great any time I need something portable and it plays games about as well as my mid-2000s gaming pc did, which means there are tons of good games I can play on it.

>>323338854
Why do graphics matter so much to you? It's the same fucking game, and the game indeed looks only marginally better. What do you gain from making consoles look bad?

>>323338728
shit how much was ur heatsink i may switch over for 3.7,

>>323324690
>free games on psn
They aren't free, dingus

>>323339003
When I need something portable I just use my phone like a normal person.
Laptops are great for school, but I personally wouldn't recommend them for anything more than that.

>>323338523
>Too poor for a laptop heh?

Laptops are trash

>How's that mom's basement?

I live on the second floor faggot

>>323339058
About 30 bucks.

>>323338987
I said I find it disturbing, I won't play either. on PC1 I would lower the graphics till it becomes absolutely stable 65+. Call it a placebo, but my input feels much better at 100+ fps. I think some of the games have inputs depends on fps.

>>323339054
they matter because a blurred image will cause eye strain and after prolonged use, can cause you to start needing glasses

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>>323338854
Good luck with that framerate killing hair, pkucks

>>323339221
thanks anon will def look into that

>>323339195
You can't play a nice comfy game of Civilization on your couch with a phone.

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>>323339254
Not really. People have been playing Ocarina of Time at 340p 20fps and they loved it.

You're just and autistic faggot who cares more about some stupid number than the actual games. No wonder you have 1500 + hours on assfaggots.

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>>323339567
Tell me this doesn't make your eyes bleed.

>>323339567
actually my most played game has only 60 hours. i have a job and family to tend to. and i agree i am a huge loz fan, but when you have the choice of having better graphics why ignore it. btw i still emulate ocarina of time and majora's mask, i have no qualms with older platforms. It's the newer ones that promise the best in graphics and processing power but fail to deliver.

>>323339054
>Why do graphics matter so much to you?
If graphics didn't matter we wouldn't even have a new generation m8.
And yes, the game looks marginally better on medium settings.
On max settings it's almost a night-and-day difference thanks to the improved draw distance, better shading, better AO, improved shadows, etc. etc.

>>323326347
can you even get the same performance on PC of a ps4 for 300 dollars

>>323339502
You're right, I can play it in my comfy desk chair.

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>>323339054

The thread started with some console shitter acting like a defensive faggot about his inferior platform and trying to rip on PC gamers.

You really don't expect PC gamers to point out what a heap of shit all of that is?

>>323329401
>I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting
Those eagle eyes of yours are clearly activating your autism.

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>>323339362
>Consolefag talking about framerate killers
The ironing.

>>323339797
You discovered gaming last year? Let me guess it's reddit that told you video games are cool and you asked mom to buy you a prebuilt "master race pc" to be cool?

>>323339567
If graphics don't matter, why did we need this console generation?

>>323340019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH6FCgqQB_s

>>323339362

Now take a wide angle shot of an expansive terrain view on both and we can have some more laughs.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

Check out this list, how many PC exclusives are there on the first page compared to console exclusives.

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>>323340143
oh the nostalgia!

>>323339054
>Why do graphics matter so much to you?
I agree. Why is Sony making me pay for a minimal graphics upgrade while also charging for online?

>>323340019
i did. got a nice ass gaming pc for 250 on black friday that runs any and i mean any game at 60fps
maybe if you got a job you could afford it anyway faggot

>>323340143
Inferior in what sense? How is enjoying all the relevant video games the way they're meant to be played on a machine dedicated to play video games "inferior"?

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>>323340252
yep
PC is playing at true 1080p. Consoles are at 900p and 720p.

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>>323340421
>the way they're meant to be played
Silky smooth 20 FPS.
#thewayitsmeanttobeplayed

>>323339894
>It's the newer ones that promise the best in graphics and processing power
lmao
if you were older you would know these two things were ALWAYS arguments between consoles

>>323340341
Seriously, why do we need a new generation for anything other than graphics? Other than for Sony to sell another 50 million consoles of course.

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>>323340303
>Mfw anon proves once again that PC + Nintendo is the best pairing
Feels good.

>>323340571
lmao im 21 years old

I like to think of consoles as using a bus and PC as owning a car

also you have to remember that a PC isn't solely used for gaming

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>>323340421
>the way they're meant to be played

>>323324690
>free games on psn
>free
lol

>>323340267
Because console companies want more money.

>>323340524
How is Bloodborne running on your PC?

>>323340491
>if I spend $800 I'll have a better experience than when I spend $400

You must be some kind of genius.

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>>323340421

>how is paying yearly subs for worse graphics that run at worse framerates with no settings, no mods a problem? I like paying more over time and claiming it's cheaper because my shitbox was cheaper up front!

Gee, I guess it isn't inferior.

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>>323340524
Looks like its time for an """hd-remake"""
Why wouldn't we want to buy the same game three times simply for better resolution and framrate?
fucking consoles man.

>>323340614
Its true. The new console games arent pushing anything but visuals.
You dont see the power used for smarter AIs or anything.

Like a game like Street Fighter 5 could actually run on PS1 hardware, if you stripped away the titty physics and particle effects. Nothing the game does is particularly heavy for computing. The mechanics have all been done before decades ago.

Games dont even run better. Something like Bloodborne has just as many FPS dips as Dark Souls on the PS3.

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>>323340824
It's the same price, anon.

I don't understand why PC gamers/enthusiasts are trying to push the whole "it's cheaper" opinion. Both sides end up doing some pretty fucked up hollywood accounting to make their side cheaper. Hurrdurr Ubuntu is all you need therefore you save $100, hurrdurr if you have to pay for XBG you also have to take into account ISP charges...

Like it's also so fucking stupid, different needs for different folks.

>>323340824
You will spend 800$ thanks to PSN+ and XBL charging you monthly.

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>>323324690
>Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
The most popular, the Potato Masher, was $350 (the price of a used PS4 then).

>Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
It included M/KB in that price. OS can be gotten for 1/3 the price of PS+ ($20 from kinguin for a 7 key that can be upgraded for free to 10 just to make sure its legit). Pretty sure non-keyed 7's only drawback is a black desktop and a startup notification.

>Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
and >>323326619
..See pic. Good luck getting these prices on console, not to mention $1-5 games that predate the PS4 and that can now be played at 4k.

Even more.. original-gen i5s playing GTA V at 4k30-60 with a fucking 760 (resolution is GPU).
(>>323340287); and original-gen i7s are playing games at the same framerate as top-level i5s now, some games even better.

1/2

>>323340846
thats one of the best pictures ive seen

>>323340421
>the way they are meant to be played
>consoles use AMD grafics cards
does not compute

>>323340824
>FX 6300
>GTX 760
>$800
Sounds more like $600 actually.

>>323340793
How is Dwarf Fortress playing on your console?

>>323341089

Foreverial Tiedup Jake is classic.

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>>323341117

>why would you pay more when console gaming is cheaper?
>lmoa who cares about graphics and fps

>most of "next" gen games are ports and remakes in "HD"

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>>323341062

>>323341201

>inb4 ASCII LOL OMG THAT ANCIENT SHIT PBBT INDIESHIT

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>>323324690
>Oy vey PCs are so expensive
Good thing it's a hobby and that's where I dump my disposable income.
I hate to make this a rich fag vs poor fag thread but even poor fags who are employed should shell out an extra buck or two if they care about their fucking hobbies instead of being Jews and sucking corporate cock for halo and the order.

Secondly you need a computer, investing in a good computer is beneficial to both gaming as a hobby, as well as futureproofing your computer so it doesn't shit out like that piece of shit you bought on sale at frys for 150.

Third, if consoles are so fucking great, then why are you on your PC complaining on an anonymous image board to tell me about it?

>>323340984
How is that image realistic at all?

>no one ever buys things on sale
>steam users never pay over 40 for games
>dlc is non existent
>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC

>>323341013
Yeah , after 20 years you spend $800 combined

>>323341372
>>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC
I think the funny part is that the current consoles will see an upgrade this gen before someone with a GTX 760 has to upgrade.
There are already rumors that the new Xbone refresh will use an AMD Polaris APU.
Hope you goys are ready to upgrade to the Xbox One.1 so you'll be able to play the next few years worth of games.

>>323341354

Hell, I'm a poor wagecuck and used to own all 3 consoles and a proper gaming PC untill I sold all my consoles except Xbone cause I enjoy racing games, though I'd rather keep my Wii U than PS4

>>323341264
It hilarious because they spam the opposite parroting against Nintendo shit.

>>323341264
also it's amazing how much money potential consoles have

there are studios that spent money on one game ported it to ps3/360 and then ported it to ps4/bone

that's actually insane, I clearly understand why both consoles didn't include backwards compatibility and why next-gen won't have it either

>>323341372
So buy the games at 20 bucks and spend 800 on a new pc half way through.

>>323341223
is there more to it?

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>>323341354

>>323340984
>all games on console are $60
when will this meme end

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>>323324690
>console gaming is cheaper

nice bullshit,

now that'll be $59.99 + tax + tip

>>323341013
And your WoW subscription will cost you even more.

The monthly costs for features were irrelevant to the point. The point was that paying more for superior hardware would yield better results. Nobody's disputing that. It's just a useless argument to make. Consoles are appealing due to low costs, exclusives and "couch gaming". Naturally, if performance and extra features were important to an anon, PC would be the obvious choice. But they don't seem to be, since anon seems content with the quality consoles provide, so you might want to jump onto another argument.

>>323334847
How is that a shit argument? Every one of these "console killer PC" were made out of on-sale parts off neweggs. Those PC parts were already on sale.

>>323341581
In some dream world maybe.

>>323341583

>consoles actually upping their specs mid lifecycle

Imagine the asspain of the people who don't want to have to upgrade being told " lol your earlier iteration doesn't support Game™ "

>>323340657
Umm, No. There are 20 console exclusive games in the top 50 greatest games of all time. Not all of them Nintendo AND 0 exclusive PC games. So Consoles win 20-0.

>>323341583
I wouldn't be surprised ultimately. If only microsoft put as much attention on the xbox as they did the surfacebook and created a product with longevity.

>>323341647
There are a variety of routes one could take in 8 years of gaming, the point I was making is that the image has a very linear and false perception of how much gamers actually do spend. It would be great if someone actually made an infographic that wasn't as biased as trying to sell more consoles/pcs. Gamers spend a fuckload.

>>323341730
Again, you're putting up a new game price against a sale price. Why are mustards so retarded? You can get console games for 10 and under.

>>323341730
*implements denuvo*

That'll be 59.99 from you too, mr fedora. Do you want the Season Pass too?

>>323341779
>subscribing to MMOs
>playing MMOs
>paying for WoW when its literally free to play right now
>thinking that consoles are somehow better off when you would have to pay for a FF14 sub AND PSN+ if you want to continue playing other games online
>monthly costs are irrelevant because my shitty argument hinges on ignoring them
>consoles are appealing due to low cost, but only because I choose to ignore the hidden costs attached to them
0/10

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>>323341665

This one may have come first, I don't recall. There are a couple others you can find, but they're not related to the original creator about which I know nothing.

>>323341178
And a case. PCU. And keyboard. And mouse. Optional controller. Motherboard. RAM.

I highly doubt you could get all needed hardware to run BF4 @1080p and 60fps consistently only costs you $600. But if it does, I'm more than willing to withdraw the argument.

>>323341953
Yes, but you'll never get to play them online without coughing up a few hundred bucks for PSN.

>>323341914
>Super Mario Galaxy
>OoT
>Super Mario Galaxy 2
>SM64
>Metroid Prime
>Goldeneye
>Twilight Princess
>Perfect Dark
>Wind Waker

>The rest are multiplats, The Last of Us, Journey, Uncharted, Halo, and RDR
Kek, like I said, PC + Nintendo is the best combination.

A PC just enables a wider range of games
Something like Aurora would never work on a console

>>323341779
>hows pc gaming cheaper if I spent over 1000 dollars on league of legends
This is you.

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>>323341914
>mfw there's only six games on there that I can't emulate

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>>323332408
You're bullshitting, and you only have to be above 30FPS to be better than most relevant console games.

That $350 PC?
>DaSII at 4k60.
https://youtu.be/uZR-a35sxLg?t=12m56s
>GTA V at 4k30-60.
https://youtu.be/DH6FCgqQB_s?t=6m8s
>MGS V at 4k30.
https://youtu.be/hPq_nEskCiQ?t=4m56s

30 FPS on PS4:
>Ass Creed
>Batman
>Bloodborne
>Destiny
>Drive Club
>FO4
>Far Cry 4
>GTA V
>Infamous
>JC3
>Mad Max (a game known for its optimization)
>Need for Speed (a game on the Frostbite engine, known for its optimization as well)
>etc. (http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates)

An i3 and a fucking 750ti can play every multiplat at or above PS4 FPS.

1/2

>>323342056
>MY monthly costs are optional!
>YOURS are magically NOT!

>>323342074

http://rafe15.deviantart.com/gallery/

I found his deviantart. Have fun.

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>>323332457
>>323332967

> >>323342296
2/2

>>323342296
Speaking of PC -> specs videos, some are really fucked up. Like how the fuck are people playing shit at 4k 120fps with an Intel 4000?

>>323342181
>m, No. There are 20 console exclusive games in the top 50 greatest games of all time. Not all of them Nintendo AND 0 exclusive PC games. So Consoles win 20-0.

I said console exclusive games are 20, so 7 on Nintendo and 13 on Microsoft / Sony consoles, I didn't count duplicates. and 0 PC exclusives.

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PC has free online multiplayer.

>>323342341
>paid online for all games in 2016
>optional
-1/10

>>323333719
Could you please link the tool? Fuck windows 8

>>323342074
amazing amazing, how is a man like this made

>>323342420
>how the fuck are people playing shit at 4k 120fps with an Intel 4000?
>implying any videos claim this

>>323341914
>Super Mario Galaxy is the greatest game of all time
>Mount & Blade low 70s
You are a retard and doing the console side of this argument no favors

>>323342215
>consoles are only equally expensive if you pay the optional monthly subscription for years!
And here's you.

>>323342615
>optional
>for half of most games' functionality

>>323342412
thanks anon, stuff like this tickles me to no end

>>323324690
The parts in those build are not "used", they're brand new in box parts from an online retailer.

Are you retarded?

>>323341953
>You can get console games for 10 and under.

I'm not talking about shovelware and "free" psn titles.

I'm talking about the precious exclusives. When they come out you pay $59.99+.

No consolefag waits a year until the price drops with the level of shilling/circlejerking that goes on here.

>>323342215
who the fuck plays league. fuck mobas. making pc gamers look bad with your assfaggotry

>>323342262.

It is sad that a PC gamer has to emulate the good games because they don't have anything but undertale garbage.

>>323342480
Windows 8 is great
install classic shell and have your life set

>>323342550
anon the exaggeration is for comedic effect, but there are some videos that actually imply they can run certain games on shit hardware. It's fucked up.

If you care about graphics you are a casual faggot

>>323329983

I'm still using a 660ti and I'm able to play every game on mostly high settings/1080p, which still looks and runs better than anything on console.

And I don't plan on upgrading until the new generation of cards come out later this year even though I have the money.

>>323342685
>multiplayer games are literally the only thing that exists
>$30 a year is more than $200 every few years for a new gp

>>323342476
>playing online
>where performance and accuracy matters
>paying for it

I play online on PC, thanks.
Console is for comfy gaming on the couch with friends.

>>323342341
do u even pirate faggot

>>323342817
Like? As stated in the thread, an i3 and 750ti can play most games better than consoles.

>>323342615
Let's list pc games with monthly subscriptions
Wow
Final fantasy

Let's list ps4 games with monthly subscriptions
Literally all of them because Xbox live and psn

I don't play wow or final fantasy, but I play a lot of games online without paying an extra cent for it. I don't have to pay for the privilege of playing my game online.

Your argument is shit and you're shit for it. You know exactly what you are doing and should be ashamed of yourself.

>>323330935
This is the post of a poor sap unable to argue with cold, hard facts.

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>>323342686

>>323342864
>PS4
>couch coop
Good one. Sony made sure that everybody plays online only so that people buy more PS4s.

Only console left that actually has a couch coop focus is the WiiU, and nobody cares about that one.

>>323342137
You clearly don't know shit about building a PC family.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zqttP6
>>323342341
If you're not playing WoW you don't have to sub to it, and you can still play any non-sub games online.
If you don't pay for PS+ you can't even play GTAO.

>>323342818

>not caring about technological progression

eat shit

free games on psn
monthly sub is no free or are you talking about f2p games

face the reality consolebros
the PC is the better plaftorm and consoles are only useful when you want to play exclusives.

I don't know what people constantly compare PC to ps4, not only because of the price difference, the PS4 is like a regular car that everybody owns and drives, it offers reliable performance yet some elitist will always comes along with 600 cylinder ferriari super car boasting about performance then drives off and dose 20 in a school zone because there no fucken roads for the thing to even utilize it's power.

I guess performance automatically become the thing you have to fall back on after missing out on two generations of games. Whats the point of mad performance with no games? Since you obviously don't consider multiplats real games and I also agree, they typically are the exact bottom of the barrel type of software you would expect, so why are PC cucks so proud of maxing them I don't understand?

>>323343136
Don't bother. These are the niggers who get excited when they get "a free copy of [game] with every 50 dollar kickstarter donation"

>>323342954
like an FX 83 + R 6570

> As stated in the thread, an i3 and 750ti can play most games better than consoles.
I'm not arguing that point, I'm talking about some videos themselves that are actually retarded.

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>>323342832
>$30 a year
No.

>$200 every few years for a new GPU
Meanwhile.. >>323342413 (and >as if consoles get upgrades)

>>323342565
Mount & Blade, hahahahahahaha lmao

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>>323342137

>>323342990
I already stated I play the game I play online on PC. It's free, and the increased performance and KB+M feels essential.

So, the monthly costs for online play is as optional for me as monthly costs for MMOs I don't play. Consoles are for comfy. PC is for performance and online.

>>323343325
>ever buying a used GPU
mustard race, everyone

>>323343325
>Kepler
no thank you

>>323342413
my evga geforce gt740 superclocked edition 2gb gpu was around 80$

>>323343118
>caring about anything other than gameplay
>>>/lit/
>>>/mu/
>>>/tv/
>>>/sci/

>>323343305
A mid-tier PC still performs better than a PS4.

PS4 is like those hoverboards that niggers ride around on.

>>323343512
>comfy

here you faggots go

http://gpushack.com/

enjoy cheap video cards

>>323324690
>free psn games
>free

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>>323343530
>damage control
>8800s still on the market that would play just fine

>>323343537
IKR?

>>323343113
Enjoy a max of 35-40fps with that shit build, familia.
I thought you wanted a PC for better quality.

>>323343565
You got ripped off.
Word of advice, don't ever buy those shitty low-end GTX x40/x30 or AMD R5 x40/x30.
For just $40 more you could easily get double the performance from a GTX 950 or an R9 270/370.

Console gaming can be cheaper depending where you live.

>>323343696
>cheap
Nah.

>>323330810
I like that his meme is still going strong but not so strong that it's instantly called b8.

>>323343596
>how dare he enjoy himself on his couch

>>323343769
Are you retarded m8?
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>>323343829
Yeah I picked up a 730 for my brothers pc because it had a stock psu. Very disappointing performance for the price.

>>323343769

that's about 10 more fps than consoles, senpai :^)

>>323343980
>$200 more for 10 fps more
Seems fair.

I just spent 720 euro on a PC before even buying an operating system or a mouse. The fact of the matter is. You want to play games and enjoy them at an affordable price? Go console.
You want the best possible experience? Go PC.
You're going to pay almost twice as much before you start seeing any REAL benefits in terms of the experience you're having but once you do see it, there's just no going back.

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>>323324690
"pc exclusives"
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wew are all the assfaggots quarantined in here or what

>>323326347
Looks like babby discovered the word seldom today.

Good for you.

>>323343829
i know that now. i got it about 2 years ago. i have an amd radeon HD6770 now. it runs smoother even with 1gb less vram

>>323343768
You can get a used Krippler card for U$150 woah so amazing take that console users!

>>323343769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWtFSiVyjs
Literally double the framerate of PS4.

>>323343946
Why go Pc if you can't go max settings?

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Who here didn't let /v/ brainwash them into not enjoying things??

Still enjoying 30 fps, still not getting hurt ass at 30 frames, , all I'm doing is just playing and enjoying games. No idea why someone would internally embody the 60fp meme, we get 1080p 60fps games on PS4 too but for some reason we don't turn into elitist, pessimistic negative assholes, very strange that.

It's also weird that PC users don't think multiplats count on console yet they suddenly do on PC.

>>323344236
Because you can still do 60 FPS on high settings instead of 30 FPS on medium-high?

>>323343113
>>323343498

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFXtIQymtR8

>>323344242

>i like eating shit and it tastes better when it comes from sony.

ayy

>>323344242
They have to count something, there are no good PC exclusives. So they lie and cheat.

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>>323324690
I literally just have a costco prebuilt pc that I got for maybe 400 american, and shoved a 750 ti it and can play all the games I want at max 60 fps.
Im guessing its about 500 american? But Im canadian so there was some tax and inflation involved.