1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
2)Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
Nothing against you if you like pc exclusives like DOTA or Starcraft , but console gaming is cheaper ,
>1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
why's this retarded exactly? Consolecux seldom even want to think of building their own system, and you can create a total PS4-killer for less than 400 bucks nowadays, from brand new parts. Been possible for two years now.
>2)Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
As are most PCs, and a basic KB+M set costs you anything from NOTHING to 15 bucks tops. OS you can get absolutely free, both legally and with questionable means.
>3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
The difference with PSN sales is the fact that they seldom offer notable reductions in prices for the latest games, and just about never as huge price drops as Steam. Also there ARE still physical copies for PC games, and you can even trade or sell digital games of yours on PC.
Finally, the PC has the benefit of having superior multiplats, ways of customizing and modding your games, free online gaming, better multitasking capabilities, and near unlimited backwards compatibility with the 10k+ games available for it.
The PS4 killer PC you claim is so easy is straight up bullshit.
And I don't know if you've ever seen PSN flash sales but you're absolutely wrong. Couple-month-old games dio by 10-30% all the time and older games/Indies can go down by 75% easy.
>buy used console for less than 200 dollars
>comes with game and controller
>outperforms 200 dollar PC built with used parts
>alternatively steal everything and just play games on any platform
your money competition is useless
>have to pay for PSN
>"free" games are always bad now and have been since PS4 came out
>games are more expensive at launch
>sales only happen once a week with a handful of games meaning you'll have to wait possibly a year or more for a game you want to go on sale
>discounts aren't as deep as on PC games
Compare the same games fuckwit. Its always cheaper on PC.
Not to mention you can get any PC game at a discount on or before release if you just take 5 seconds to Google around. Got GTAV, Witches 3, Fallout 4 all for 30 bucks each on release.
I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting, especially in any multiplayer game, moreso than stable 30 fps. I honestly don't undestand how people can play on unstable framerete on any platform
Im idort. In my eyes, it's really fucking simple:
If my PC can run it and it exists on it, i'll play it on PC. If it's not on PC, my PC can't run it or the game overall is better to be played from couch, i'll have it on console.
As for prices i rarely buy anything at launch. Steam or Gamestop, i'll wait for discounts, sometimes buy console game used and then ship it back.
Funfact: Pc games cannot be sold after bought (at least not in Finland.) so in long run, console is very minorly cheaper.
For piratefags, it doesn't fucking matter what you play with.
>mfw once Denuvo becomes more used price of PC games will go up.
>tfw I dumped so much brit bongs into my PC that I get extremely triggered when I can't run a new game stable 60fps on Ultra
It's 2016 for Gods sake. This shouldn't be allowed.
you CANNOT build a PC that will run modern games for 400$. you can make a PC that is technically better than a PS4, but PC games are generally so unoptimized (probably on purpose) that you will not run them above 20fps on anything over 720p.
source: I tried
it doesn't work, a graphics card capable of running games from this gen on 1080+ is 200$ alone.
how can anyone deny that console gaming is far cheaper?
>free games on psn
Something you pay for is not free.
I bought 15 PC games + a shitload of DLC with the money I would have used to buy 3, maybe 4 console games.
I did the math too, would have been able to buy 44 PC games if I stuck with the cheapest stuff in my wishlist.
redditors who try to convince themselves that PC gaming is flawless and superior to console gaming in every way. This is coming from someone who built a $1400 PC, console gaming is cheaper but I wanted to be able to play the Witcher 3 Maxed out as do others and thats just the truth
Your argument is dumb because you are comparing shitty, ancient games to AAA releases though.
I bought AAA releases, including the Witcher 3, the Saints Row games, Sleeping Dogs, Battlefield 4 and Rocket League.
Probably on sale.
PC games and console games are usually the same price on release.
PS4/XB1 games usually drop in price pretty fast, you can get many games brand new for $20 which is pretty good considering its physical and not a steam rental.
ive had this pc for about 3 years now and can still run pretty much anything at max. havent tried fallout 4 for obvious reasons (its still 60 bucks on steam)
Both gaming plats (pc and console) have their own pros and cons, it is really just based on preference in my opinion. i mean i game on PC but i also have a ps4 and xbone.
The type of person who posts bait consolewar threads doesn't have a job
I would argue that PC gaming is better overall, particularily for the enthusiast but also that people that misrepresent facts to make their argument or fail to realize that consoles fit better for some people's lives they are doing nobody, certainly not themselves, any favors.
PC generally ends up fairly expensive and although some of the pre-builts are decent they partially defeat the point
Consoles are easier to transport unless you get a laptop which again partially defeats the point
I'll probably always play primarily on PC but it's worth looking at consoles always
name some examples because ive never heard of that lol either you are trolling or you dont use steam. Even if i have no internet i can still play all my games and i have about 900$ worth of games
I'm part of the TRUE master race,
the idort, but it's like four bucks a month. I'd pay that for just the convenience of automatic cloud backup. It's greedy, sure, but you actually get a quality product unlike other certain free but shoddy MP platforms which often get a pass on here.
Once a new console gen comes out, you need to shell out for a whole new console. Sure, you can sell your current one, but then you lose out on all of the games you had before. With PC you can keep running shit into the next gen by turning the settings down, or buying an upgrade that'll be cheaper than a whole new, release price console would be. You also have the benefit of not having to find space for each console you own because you only ever need one computer tower.
Long term, PC gaming is way better. Hell, thanks to emulation PCs can play more console games than consoles can.
I don't have anything against consoles or PC either way, but I don't see why there's this ongoing dick waving contest going on between the two.
People saying console gaming is cheaper obviously don't play online as that can add $500 to $1000 dollars on top due to the cost.
Having Xbox Live for the life of the console (around 8 years) if using the yearly cost ($120 dollars from M$) goes to $960, for the same money (~$1500) you can get a high end gaming rig which is a direct upgrade.
PS4 is cheaper but still the same cost as a high end gaming rig ($1000).
I used to buy single player games on my xbox 360. In the end you pay kinda lot for them.
Since I built my pc i just pirate single player and buy few multi. It ends cheaper this way for me.
lol what the fuck? yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.
besides, upgrading a GPU or CPU is a lot cheaper then buying a whole new system
consolefags i swear
False flag faggots operating on the "if steam goes down, you lose access to your games!" shit.
The terrible secret behind the idea is that services like PSN and Xbox live will disappear before Steam does.
>yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.
You'll have to settle for less.
Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps? a $400 build today will likely have a 750ti or equivalent, no fucking way will that hold it for years to come.
>You'll have to settle for less
By using a console you're settling for less anyway, and you can't upgrade it to make the experience better.
>Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps?
You fucking wish it was
Exclusives are horrible for arguments regarding the quality of the platform and they are bad for the health of the game industry. Theres literally no positives to a game being console exclusive
Console gaming is more expensive in the long run if you are an avid video games enthusiast. PC is the ultimate poorfag machine, there's a reason why sandinggers are all on PC.
>console gaming is cheaper
Get better at math you stupid fuck. the price you pay at the cash register is merely the down payment, and get ready to pay for your shit toy box FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRR
>valve takes VAC bans you
>can still play single player games
>can still play multiplayer games on unsecured servers
>ms bans you
>be publicly ridiculed on their forums while pretending to be your parents
>not only bans accounts but console too
At lest I own my games! Look at my pretty boxes and manuels.
>valve takes VAC bans you
maybe if you would git gud instead of cheating you wouldnt have to worry about it, oh i forgot you spend more time arguing over voice chat to ever git gud.
I'm not even a consolefag you fucking idiot what the fuck, I'm just being realistic
>Free games on PSN
That you pay a monthly fee on that doesn't exist on pc (nor should exist on consoles).
You can get an OS for free completely legally, Linux, and like a console OS it is also complete ass for gaming.
With a computer, you also get, well, a computer.
I don't know why anyone would want game boxes around anymore. They are not even unique like most old printed game boxes, they are generic plastic case with a sheet of paper stuck in them.
Game manuals stopped existing like 4 years ago too so why bother?
>more powerful as time goes
>fucking idiot what the fuck
thats how i feel. You're telling me that a 750ti wont maintain 30fps 1080p for 5 years unlike a console. But what kind of sense does that make? A consoles hardware isnt getting better as time goes on, the framerates either get worse, or the graphics are toned down to accommodate, its the same shit as having a budget GPU
Console gaming is not "cheaper" because your gaming pc replace your old pc. If you own a console you still need a laptop/desktop pc to be able to shitpost on /v/. With a gaming pc you can both play video games and post on /v/.
no but i have children, and animals, i guess you will never understand because you will be forever alone. also the sensor itslf can be easily dislodged and scratch a cd pretty descent
You can see the hypocrisy on both fucking sides of the argument
Also who the fuck pays full price for psn or gold?
You can get a 12 months key from popular key sites for less than half price. I've been doing this for years. This year I got 12 months gold for even less because of black friday and picked up 12 months, elder scrolls online and farcry 4 for less than the regular price of a 12 months card and still had money left over
>but console gaming is cheaper ,
Games on console are flat out more expensive here in the UK
If I choose between retailers I can get a new/preordered pc title for £20
For that same game on console I can usually at best get it for £35
no because i don't own any cd's you autistic fuck lol.
Consoles get optimization. The games only look marginally worse despite the difference in hardware. PC is a shit platform filled with entitled little faggots, developers don't give a shit about it,they'll just shit out an unoptimized glitchfest port and tell you to buy the lasted Nvidia card, and you'll happilly do it.
Thanks anon. What console warriors fail to understand is that the point of the gaming pc is to use your everyday PC to play video games as well. It's just practical. And cheap in itself because you NEED a pc nowadays. The only people who don't own a PC are elderly. And even then all my grandparents own a PC with internet nowadays.
A laptop is better for general computing purpose. As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go.
>As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go
then play your pc games on a big comfy couch with a big ass TV
>implying it can max out any recent AAA game even @720p and 60fps
I'm all for PC gaming, but it's not for poorfags.
It's about the possibilities consoles don't have (mods and performance) and gaining the best results. You'd have to be retarded to think any of that is possible without spending some actual money on your rig.
Not really, in most cases they just lower resolution, texture quality, shader quality, model quality, etc. etc.
Not to mention they'll often tone down or outright disable things like tessellation (some examples of this are Tomb Raider Definitive and Metro Redux, which don't use tessellation on consoles).
An example of this would be Uncharted 4 MP vs SP.
MP looks much MUCH worse than SP and even then it still can't sustain a constant 60 FPS while running at 900p.
>it always reeks of ash and is stained by smokers tar
>no one ever checks that they work correctly
>used pc parts
>often still has lifetime warranty
>usually fully refurbished
its like not even close to comparable
Except you can. THe PS4was of such poor build quality that the first batch could actually scratch the disc while it was spinning in the drive.
the xbox 360 had the same problem
Nah, even for my finance schoolwork I prefer my desktop.
Laptops have shit for screen real estate, they don't have an actual mouse, and they're generally slower.
The mouse adds so much to my computing experience it's not even a fair comparison, even using Excel on my laptop is a pain in the ass since the trackpad is garbage.
>but the games look only marginally better than the console counterpart.
I love this meme.
Just so you know, the PC in this image is running on medium settings.
I thought I was the only guy on /v/ with a 2320.
I thought it was just a stop-gap until Ivy-Bridge came out, but it turned out there wasn't enough reason to upgrade. Now I wish I had got the 2500k but oh well, ~700mhz isn't the end of the world.
How many people do you think play their PC in their living room? How do you play your daily 6 hours of assfaggots? On your TV? No, you sit at your shitty desk and destroy your eyes with a shitty 19" monitor while you destroy your prostate with a Gabe Newell dildo.
Too poor for a laptop heh? How's that mom's basement?
The 280/280x/7970/GHz are all great.
My 280x can even pull off 1440p60 and rarely 4k30 in some games.
>Too poor for a laptop heh?
Nah, I have a $110 netbook that I use for school, PSP emulation, and old games.
I prefer my desktop for gaming at home and my WiiU for gaming in bed.
Laptops are honestly garbage even for browsing the internet compared to a computer.
Because I originally bought space marine for consoles, never bought a DLC, then I bought it on PC with all the dlc included for half the price of a single DLC on console, even when discounted.
I don't use vsync ever, you dumb fuck. It's not my problem you can't notice when game goes below 60, 1 or 10 frames. It's especially noticeable in fast paced games, where you start to experience input disturbances.
>too poor for a craptop
i just spat coffee all over my lap. i make 1500 dollars a week for penetration testing you dumbass, get a degree in information tech. and ethical hacking then attempt to insult me. lolol
So the fact that literally everyone doesn't use their pc in their lounge means that it's not possible?
What kind of argument is this? I thought we were discussing the benefits of pcs vs consoles not creating weird fucking accusations
My Atom convertible works great any time I need something portable and it plays games about as well as my mid-2000s gaming pc did, which means there are tons of good games I can play on it.
I said I find it disturbing, I won't play either. on PC1 I would lower the graphics till it becomes absolutely stable 65+. Call it a placebo, but my input feels much better at 100+ fps. I think some of the games have inputs depends on fps.
Good luck with that framerate killing hair, pkucks
Not really. People have been playing Ocarina of Time at 340p 20fps and they loved it.
You're just and autistic faggot who cares more about some stupid number than the actual games. No wonder you have 1500 + hours on assfaggots.
Tell me this doesn't make your eyes bleed.
actually my most played game has only 60 hours. i have a job and family to tend to. and i agree i am a huge loz fan, but when you have the choice of having better graphics why ignore it. btw i still emulate ocarina of time and majora's mask, i have no qualms with older platforms. It's the newer ones that promise the best in graphics and processing power but fail to deliver.
>Why do graphics matter so much to you?
If graphics didn't matter we wouldn't even have a new generation m8.
And yes, the game looks marginally better
on medium settings.
On max settings it's almost a night-and-day difference thanks to the improved draw distance, better shading, better AO, improved shadows, etc. etc.
The thread started with some console shitter acting like a defensive faggot about his inferior platform and trying to rip on PC gamers.
You really don't expect PC gamers to point out what a heap of shit all of that is?
>Consolefag talking about framerate killers
oh the nostalgia!
PC is playing at true 1080p. Consoles are at 900p and 720p.
>the way they're meant to be played
Silky smooth 20 FPS.
>Mfw anon proves once again that PC + Nintendo is the best pairing
>how is paying yearly subs for worse graphics that run at worse framerates with no settings, no mods a problem? I like paying more over time and claiming it's cheaper because my shitbox was cheaper up front!
Gee, I guess it isn't inferior.
Looks like its time for an """hd-remake"""
Why wouldn't we want to buy the same game three times simply for better resolution and framrate?
fucking consoles man.
Its true. The new console games arent pushing anything but visuals.
You dont see the power used for smarter AIs or anything.
Like a game like Street Fighter 5 could actually run on PS1 hardware, if you stripped away the titty physics and particle effects. Nothing the game does is particularly heavy for computing. The mechanics have all been done before decades ago.
Games dont even run better. Something like Bloodborne has just as many FPS dips as Dark Souls on the PS3.
I don't understand why PC gamers/enthusiasts are trying to push the whole "it's cheaper" opinion. Both sides end up doing some pretty fucked up hollywood accounting to make their side cheaper. Hurrdurr Ubuntu is all you need therefore you save $100, hurrdurr if you have to pay for XBG you also have to take into account ISP charges...
Like it's also so fucking stupid, different needs for different folks.
>Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
The most popular, the Potato Masher, was $350 (the price of a used PS4 then).
>Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
It included M/KB in that price. OS can be gotten for 1/3 the price of PS+ ($20 from kinguin for a 7 key that can be upgraded for free to 10 just to make sure its legit).
Pretty sure non-keyed 7's only drawback is a black desktop and a startup notification.
>Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
..See pic. Good luck getting these prices on console, not to mention $1-5 games that predate the PS4 and that can now be played at 4k.
Even more.. original-gen i5s playing GTA V at 4k30-60 with a fucking 760 (resolution is GPU).
(>>323340287); and original-gen i7s are playing games at the same framerate as top-level i5s now, some games even better.
>Oy vey PCs are so expensive
Good thing it's a hobby and that's where I dump my disposable income.
I hate to make this a rich fag vs poor fag thread but even poor fags who are employed should shell out an extra buck or two if they care about their fucking hobbies instead of being Jews and sucking corporate cock for halo and the order.
Secondly you need a computer, investing in a good computer is beneficial to both gaming as a hobby, as well as futureproofing your computer so it doesn't shit out like that piece of shit you bought on sale at frys for 150.
Third, if consoles are so fucking great, then why are you on your PC complaining on an anonymous image board to tell me about it?
How is that image realistic at all?
>no one ever buys things on sale
>steam users never pay over 40 for games
>dlc is non existent
>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC
>>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC
I think the funny part is that the current consoles will see an upgrade this gen before someone with a GTX 760 has to upgrade.
There are already rumors that the new Xbone refresh will use an AMD Polaris APU.
Hope you goys are ready to upgrade to the Xbox One.1 so you'll be able to play the next few years worth of games.
Hell, I'm a poor wagecuck and used to own all 3 consoles and a proper gaming PC untill I sold all my consoles
except Xbone cause I enjoy racing games, though I'd rather keep my Wii U than PS4
also it's amazing how much money potential consoles have
there are studios that spent money on one game ported it to ps3/360 and then ported it to ps4/bone
that's actually insane, I clearly understand why both consoles didn't include backwards compatibility and why next-gen won't have it either
>console gaming is cheaper
now that'll be $59.99 + tax + tip
And your WoW subscription will cost you even more.
The monthly costs for features were irrelevant to the point. The point was that paying more for superior hardware would yield better results. Nobody's disputing that. It's just a useless argument to make. Consoles are appealing due to low costs, exclusives and "couch gaming". Naturally, if performance and extra features were important to an anon, PC would be the obvious choice. But they don't seem to be, since anon seems content with the quality consoles provide, so you might want to jump onto another argument.
>consoles actually upping their specs mid lifecycle
Imagine the asspain of the people who don't want to have to upgrade being told " lol your earlier iteration doesn't support Game™ "
I wouldn't be surprised ultimately. If only microsoft put as much attention on the xbox as they did the surfacebook and created a product with longevity.
There are a variety of routes one could take in 8 years of gaming, the point I was making is that the image has a very linear and false perception of how much gamers actually do spend. It would be great if someone actually made an infographic that wasn't as biased as trying to sell more consoles/pcs. Gamers spend a fuckload.
>subscribing to MMOs
>paying for WoW when its literally free to play right now
>thinking that consoles are somehow better off when you would have to pay for a FF14 sub AND PSN+ if you want to continue playing other games online
>monthly costs are irrelevant because my shitty argument hinges on ignoring them
>consoles are appealing due to low cost, but only because I choose to ignore the hidden costs attached to them
This one may have come first, I don't recall. There are a couple others you can find, but they're not related to the original creator about which I know nothing.
And a case. PCU. And keyboard. And mouse. Optional controller. Motherboard. RAM.
I highly doubt you could get all needed hardware to run BF4 @1080p and 60fps consistently only costs you $600. But if it does, I'm more than willing to withdraw the argument.
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Super Mario Galaxy 2
>The rest are multiplats, The Last of Us, Journey, Uncharted, Halo, and RDR
Kek, like I said, PC + Nintendo is the best combination.
>mfw there's only six games on there that I can't emulate
You're bullshitting, and you only have to be above 30FPS to be better than most relevant console games.
That $350 PC?
>DaSII at 4k60.
>GTA V at 4k30-60.
>MGS V at 4k30.
30 FPS on PS4:
>Far Cry 4
>Mad Max (a game known for its optimization)
>Need for Speed (a game on the Frostbite engine, known for its optimization as well)
An i3 and a fucking 750ti can play every multiplat at or above PS4 FPS.
>m, No. There are 20 console exclusive games in the top 50 greatest games of all time. Not all of them Nintendo AND 0 exclusive PC games. So Consoles win 20-0.
I said console exclusive games are 20, so 7 on Nintendo and 13 on Microsoft / Sony consoles, I didn't count duplicates. and 0 PC exclusives.
>You can get console games for 10 and under.
I'm not talking about shovelware and "free" psn titles.
I'm talking about the precious exclusives. When they come out you pay $59.99+.
No consolefag waits a year until the price drops with the level of shilling/circlejerking that goes on here.
Windows 8 is great
install classic shell and have your life set
anon the exaggeration is for comedic effect, but there are some videos that actually imply they can run certain games on shit hardware. It's fucked up.
I'm still using a 660ti and I'm able to play every game on mostly high settings/1080p, which still looks and runs better than anything on console.
And I don't plan on upgrading until the new generation of cards come out later this year even though I have the money.
Let's list pc games with monthly subscriptions
Let's list ps4 games with monthly subscriptions
Literally all of them because Xbox live and psn
I don't play wow or final fantasy, but I play a lot of games online without paying an extra cent for it. I don't have to pay for the privilege of playing my game online.
Your argument is shit and you're shit for it. You know exactly what you are doing and should be ashamed of yourself.
Good one. Sony made sure that everybody plays online only so that people buy more PS4s.
Only console left that actually has a couch coop focus is the WiiU, and nobody cares about that one.
You clearly don't know shit about building a PC family.
If you're not playing WoW you don't have to sub to it, and you can still play any non-sub games online.
If you don't pay for PS+ you can't even play GTAO.
free games on psn
monthly sub is no free or are you talking about f2p games
face the reality consolebros
the PC is the better plaftorm and consoles are only useful when you want to play exclusives.
I don't know what people constantly compare PC to ps4, not only because of the price difference, the PS4 is like a regular car that everybody owns and drives, it offers reliable performance yet some elitist will always comes along with 600 cylinder ferriari super car boasting about performance then drives off and dose 20 in a school zone because there no fucken roads for the thing to even utilize it's power.
I guess performance automatically become the thing you have to fall back on after missing out on two generations of games. Whats the point of mad performance with no games? Since you obviously don't consider multiplats real games and I also agree, they typically are the exact bottom of the barrel type of software you would expect, so why are PC cucks so proud of maxing them I don't understand?
like an FX 83 + R 6570
> As stated in the thread, an i3 and 750ti can play most games better than consoles.
I'm not arguing that point, I'm talking about some videos themselves that are actually retarded.
>$30 a year
>$200 every few years for a new GPU
Meanwhile.. >>323342413 (and >as if consoles get upgrades)
I already stated I play the game I play online on PC. It's free, and the increased performance and KB+M feels essential.
So, the monthly costs for online play is as optional for me as monthly costs for MMOs I don't play. Consoles are for comfy. PC is for performance and online.
>8800s still on the market that would play just fine
You got ripped off.
Word of advice, don't ever buy those shitty low-end GTX x40/x30 or AMD R5 x40/x30.
For just $40 more you could easily get double the performance from a GTX 950 or an R9 270/370.
I just spent 720 euro on a PC before even buying an operating system or a mouse. The fact of the matter is. You want to play games and enjoy them at an affordable price? Go console.
You want the best possible experience? Go PC.
You're going to pay almost twice as much before you start seeing any REAL benefits in terms of the experience you're having but once you do see it, there's just no going back.
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wew are all the assfaggots quarantined in here or what
Who here didn't let /v/ brainwash them into not enjoying things??
Still enjoying 30 fps, still not getting hurt ass at 30 frames, , all I'm doing is just playing and enjoying games. No idea why someone would internally embody the 60fp meme, we get 1080p 60fps games on PS4 too but for some reason we don't turn into elitist, pessimistic negative assholes, very strange that.
It's also weird that PC users don't think multiplats count on console yet they suddenly do on PC.
I literally just have a costco prebuilt pc that I got for maybe 400 american, and shoved a 750 ti it and can play all the games I want at max 60 fps.
Im guessing its about 500 american? But Im canadian so there was some tax and inflation involved.
>we get 1080p 60fps games on PS4 too but for some reason we don't turn into elitist, pessimistic negative assholes
>hey guys check out our $353.24 console-killer build!
>first up we're gonna be reusing an i5 2500k from an older build
>total so far is $0 :^)
Honestly, it's getting out of hand
Shit I just noticed that. I actually have 3 monitors don't know why that happened.
My only other option is buying another 290, which means buying a new PSU. I don't got that kind of money nigga
>playing on more than one monitor
>60fps stable on ULTRA
Are you fucking braindead or can you just not read?
I like consoles because I can play them from my couch, with my friends that are present, on my pretty nice TV, with a controller. It's a nice experience.
I also like gaming on my PC. Must drive you crazy.
What are the PC equivilents of these games?
What monster hunter dose PC have? Unique ip's like Gravity Rush? What souls game dose PC have? Modern jrps like persona? What about performers on the scale of RC, hell even tearaway?
What titles dose PC have to give these titles a run for their money?
PC has xcom 2.... and?
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Honest? I built it when I had more disposable income than brains. Wasted plenty of money, performance already seems to hava faded.
32G RAM 1600Mhz
Crosshair V Formula-Z
>why yes I regret my choices
>that's why I drive you to choose better
>PC has no exclusives
Yeah try again stupid sonycuck, we have emulation.
Are the builds here actually legit?
I have no idea what PC parts are good, I just want something for $600ish that can play all the older games I have, and also run racing games on, since my laptop can't do anything at all
>What monster hunter dose PC have?
logical incremenents to get you started
its actually not that hard to understand the power of PC components what you know what you're looking for. It will take you about 15-20 minutes of research to understand PC specs
>not just being poverty as fuck and playing shit games on a CRT sitting criss-cross on shitty hardwood
yall dont even know
>Batman Arkham Knight
>Assassins Creed Games
Tons more of these games had performance problems. Every recent release has seemed to get even worse with the porting. Even when you have enough power in your build to overcome this you still get marginally better performance for the amount of extra hardware needed. Just Cause 3 didn't even run on AMD cards at launch, and it was still spotty for both after being fixed.
>Literally nobody cares about PC anymore.
quick post yfw you can run 4k 60fps on integrated graphics alone
Fallout 4 ran fine.
And Ass Creed games run like absolute shit on consoles.
In fact, Fallout 4 runs like absolute shit on consoles as well.
Also, the issue with Just Cause 3 was performance related, not playing related.
I'll never understand these arguments, they're basically saying "Y-YEA, THE GAMES RUN LIKE SHIT FOR US, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALMOST AS BAD FOR YOU, TAKE THAT PCFUCKS!"
It's called tough love. I criticize so you take a second look at your rig. Drive you to buy better. Better than me.
I've wanted forever to get an i7, but new DirectX benchmarks and upcoming AMD Zen keep me weary and curious.
I'm a giant faggot who already spent too much for too little, so I'm patient before my next purchase.
Also, shit as the processor is, only the Witcher 3 kicked my rig's ass so far.
Idort here. The pc is the best and the cheapest. The only thing that it fucks up is a good chunk of games have god awful optimization or are just bad ports in general. A lot of devs don't care about PCfags for some reason. From recent memory, deus ex human revolution DC is fucking awful. Just awful. I had a few people message me while I'm playing it telling me the game is shit, while I'm agreeing yeah I fucked up by not researching whether it werks. A huge chunk of games you need to look up a fix by googling then messing with registry values or something of that nature. Squeenix PC ports are notoriously awful. Most games are fine though, it's not hard to fix, just very inconvenient. Another game that we all know that needs no mention is Batman Arkham Knight. Other things include annoying shit like Tales of Zestiria and FF13-2 just crashes on me when I plug in my external sound card because it only allows you to play in stereo.
But I think if I was on a tight budget and didn't give a shit about graphics or fps, the ps4 isn't a bad deal on black friday, if you don't care about playing online. Personally, I don't pay for ps plus.
>Ask what software PC equivalent has to console ip's
>Seeing as a pc can do all in addition to community and mod support, steam sales
PC really is one continuous back peddle, we're talking about games here but like clockwork, you incessantly deflect the argument and feel the need to showcase the side features PC offers. You do it because when we put spotlight on PC software your platform has fucking nothing. You don't build a rig just to emulate last-last gens games that $30 household computers can easily achieve. The only thing your platform offers despite being completely fucking submerged in low-effort indie games, is multiplats. Multiplats are the type of side games that you're suposed to pad a library with, not be the fucking focal point of your platform while also being the only software that even takes advantage of your hardware.
So you're basically admitting there is no point in building a high end rig?
>A lot of devs don't care about PCfags for some reason.
Because PC gaming enthusiasts (people who would buy AAA games requiring good hardware, not people who play League and a survival MMO with their irl friends on a shit laptop) are a fucking tiny market. You guys just spend so much time in these nerd hellholes that you begin to think otherwise.
At least 1/3 of this thread is probably legit high schoolers.
Go dig up your PS2 and play some of dat Ace Combat, anon. Stop refreshing this garbage collective twitter feed of misfit autistic teens.
As someone who wants to get into PC gaming, I have a budget of £450, can I get a pre-built PC that will perform roughly on-par with the PS4?
>Asks where the MonHun on PC is
>While posting a picture of PS4 games
As an idort, does anyone else think /v/ would be better if all Sony fans were banned on sight?
I feel like the board's quality would improve tenfold.
True, somewhat... Most of the people I add from /v/ play a lot of dota 2, tf2, csgo and not AAA titles. Kek.
Can't blame them, most PC gamers are poor if you look at steam hardware statistics. Not trying to make fun of them, it's just reality.
Was thinking about building a new computer since current is a toaster hunk of trash with a dying video card as wanting to know if I'd be able to run something like Arma 2 or 3 with a GTX 970 and an i5
This is more expensive than a console, but I liked being able to preform various other tasks while being able to play vidya. I can run everything on max settings and frames will be at 144, or above 100 if the game is very graphics demanding, but I plan on getting my GPU on an SLI bridge soon so it can hopefully stay at 144. This is not expensive, like most posts that show going above 10k, if anything it was about $2k~$3k. And this is an over exaggerated build, but I made it for more things than just gaming.
someday http://puu sh/mpLuJ/d3d005c148.jpg
You can find almost any PS3 game on ebay for $7 or less if it's over a year old. Don't need to wait for a sale either.
Not to mention blu-ray discs have a protective coating that protects from most mild-to-moderate scratches so they always play flawless unless someone to a pen to that shit or something. Gotta be choosier with used PS2/360 games though since they're naked DVDs.
for a grand total of $4.14 for one of the best shooters from last gen
i understand you didn't really pay attention to vidya until this decade however so you're forgiven for not really caring
I'm looking to upgrade my computer piece by piece and I'm not sure if I should get a new graphics card first or just get a new mobo/cpu first.
>one of the best shooters from last gen
The performance increase itself will still be incremental as fuck except for the absolute top-end. We're still 3 years away from getting mainstream cards that can do 4k/60fps in new games.
>teenager who was a brony 2 years ago before discovering moeshit and TF2 hats
i thought i was the only one who noticed this is a thing. why did it explode all of a sudden?
if anyone remembers grafics he's a huge fucking "weeb" now
Publishers are playing a silly game these days, they're taking advantage of consoles installbase and infrastructure and occasionally porting to PC to net a few more dollars but don't realize the fine line they're walking on.
Most publishers/developers pushing console IP's can't compete on the PC platform exclusively and they know this, they'll just get swamped by the competition and the many studios would go under immediately or be reduced to husks of their former selves making indie software for chips. Consoles need to exist for their financial security and thus software also needs to exists for console but they're they're getting careless now and PC is having a field day because of it.
If they continue porting to PC it'll become common sense to drop consoles all together and adopt a PC, it's that simple. However with that goes consoles market share and the very importance of it existing and when developers and publishers are forced to compete on PC platform, many won't even make the transition and just dissolve immediately, many that do will be faced with such fierce competition due to a much smaller and unstable installbase because half the console users won't migrate to PC or simply not quick enough and for them to remain profitable and stay afloat.
The partnerships and backing of first party games will also cease to exist so that means no Bloodborne, Horizon, Halo and what not. The industry would be reduced to that of mobile gaming within weeks. Even this is still an over-simplification on the importance of consoles and what console manufacturers do behind the scenes. For example Street Fighter wouldn't exist without Sony funding it and saving Capcom from near bankruptcy which also effects other industries and platforms like 3DS. Kojimas new studio also wouldn't have been possible without Sony if gaming was forced to go PC exclusively. Consoles support much more than just first party titles and AAA games.
While I am an avid PC user, consoles are actually cheaper if only used for games. If you do other shit, a PC is the way to go.
Not to mention a console killer is fucking stupid for $400. That's literally impossible unless you're buying old shit.
Nonetheless, I think publishers believe that by under-handing the PC platform behind the curtains with broken vita ports somehow redeems this shitty practice but mark my words once you piss away infrastructure of console support it'll be gone for every and everybody looses, including those on PC. An industry plagued by indies and AAA because we denied the importance of middle men, publishers and console manufactures is a bad industry.
Games are becoming more expensive to develop for and some games may very well need a bigger audience to break even this gen but it's a double sided coin. I honestly think this is the end of console gaming and will be the very last generation. Many have permanently left for mobile gaming, nobody understands why consoles are vitally important for both AAA multiplatform software, b-level developers and in general and will gladly but unknowing participate in the destruction of the industry if only to save a few dollars on steam, hell PC gaming is taking off like crazy now. It's already too late and there is nothing anybody can do.
Why waste your money on a new PC when you can have a new gaming experience altogether? Make the ULTIMATE UPGRADE to CONSOLE at Gamestop and tell them Anonymous sent you for a 10% discount.
If possible, try and get the GPU and Mobo together, so at least you can ensure they're compatible upon arrival and not have to worry about the new Mobo working with the old GPU, or the old Mobo working with the new GPU.
CPU's fine, I don't see any point in upgrading that.
>If they continue porting to PC it'll become common sense to drop consoles all together and adopt a PC
I think this is where your analysis falls flat. A huge, huge majority of games are already available on PC, to a level unthinkable in the PS2 days and prior. If multiplat availability was going to drive significant amounts of people to PC to the point of cannibalizing console sales, it definitely would've happened by now, especially considering the free online.
Instead, the PS4 is selling so much that even Sony struggles to explain it. Normies don't care about 60fps and don't mind paying for online and don't want to deal with building a PC, that's that.
my old i3 2100 and evga gtx 660 sc ran witcher 3 on high settings at above 30fps (i don't remember if it was 1080p or if it was on my old 1440x900 monitor though).
it can be done if you know what you're doing. you can do a lot more with a PC as well than just muh gaems. over all, it has more utility and can provide a better gaming experience.
aside from all i just said, i don't know why anyone fucking argues anymore. a light gaming pc, a ps4, or an xbone are all relatively affordable to anyone who isn't living on NEETbucks or in their parents' basement. quit fucking fighting like children and just play the games you want to play on your preferred platform.
Somebody is going to get on this, fuck the entire system up and make a shitload of money (i hope its Steam). While the rest of the incompetent retards employ people to keep making meme threads.
Evolve or die.
New consoles multi task just fine though other than that you made a lot of good points.
The only reason to get any console is because you want to play an exclusive or because you have friends with the system and have a bit of cash to spray on something you enjoy.
Can't believe I just contributed to such a crap thread.
>People actually think a toaster tier $450~ can compete
Face it. If you want to get into PC gaming, be prepared to spend at MINIMUM $700 for a decent machine if you want 1080p 60fps. For most people, a PC is just too expensive, and has too many risks.
Hm I plan on getting consoles when cracked to get the games free
I tend to buy all my games on pc since I consider it my archive where I can play games at their fullest whether it be resolution, better visuals or frames. Some old games even get complete remakes
In a few years my consoles will be purged by sony and ms and on to the next one anyways. Plus I don't enjoy paying to play my old games on a new system or for remasters
Though for niche console games I make exceptions.
Sure, he can just pirate the system while he as it too.
It's already easy to fuck up the steam economy at least as far as the community market goes. Last night some guy said said that the Mehndi skin for the P250 in CS:GO was made with stolen artwork and people frantically bought 10-20 copies of the skin thinking it would get pulled from the market forever and that they could sell the Mehndi skins later for a massive profit and of course the skin didn't use stolen artwork meaning it wouldn't be getting pulled from the market and apparently the whole thing was a ruse started by someone on reddit.
AMD already demoed a mobile card that performs like a desktop 950 but is only half the die size, so at least AMD isn't just focusing on the high end. They will probably release the midrange before the high end.
this is the most retarded shit i've ever seen
2.8k for monitors
1.2k for optical drives
exclujding those, let's calculate the price
that image has to be bait
aside from xcom most of these games look like trash. I am not sure why anybody would include these over the other exclusives that look much more promising
sounds like you could use a new job or some life changes anon
or be a console peasant until the day you die
We live in the 21st century and a computer is essentially a necessity for modern life. PC gaming means paying for both a computer and a gaming system at the same time. What this means is that some of your comparisons are ridiculous, for instance:
>Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
You're paying for the OS and the controller too, even if it isn't explicitly stated. I'm guessing you also need a computer in your life as well, which means that you paid for two OSs and two controllers (keyboard + mouse, game controller) instead of just one pair.
>1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
Better, compare the price of your new console and the computer you use for work/school to just one, slightly better computer.
>3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
Not so sure about this one, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Steam does more sales. On another note, lots of PC games are released on disk, which means that there's used copies floating around for those too. If there aren't, it probably wasn't released on consoles anyway.
at CES. They did a live demo with journalists.
>they are free, you are paying for online subscription, games are free
so not free since the subscription is a tollgate and not a real service
Uh. no, no it wouldn't
you've alternatives to goto for purchase
>Legitimate CD-Key vendors selling keys at 40% mark-down
>Due to currency buying strength, you can get games even cheaper then that at times.
Super Poor or not, the only games I've had trouble with using my "Peasant" 7870 and FX6350 have been Arma 3 & BlackOps 3
Other then that I've enjoyed HD gaming through and through.
>I'd use GTA5 as an example, but Rockstars got slav wizard or someshit optimizing that motherfucker
>It'd run on a spudd and a panel of LEDs.