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1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
2)Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.

Nothing against you if you like pc exclusives like DOTA or Starcraft , but console gaming is cheaper ,
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>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper
It's not. First you pay 450€ for the console, then 70€ for a single game, and probably as much for any DLC.
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>>323324690
>1)Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
why's this retarded exactly? Consolecux seldom even want to think of building their own system, and you can create a total PS4-killer for less than 400 bucks nowadays, from brand new parts. Been possible for two years now.
>2)Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
As are most PCs, and a basic KB+M set costs you anything from NOTHING to 15 bucks tops. OS you can get absolutely free, both legally and with questionable means.
>3)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
The difference with PSN sales is the fact that they seldom offer notable reductions in prices for the latest games, and just about never as huge price drops as Steam. Also there ARE still physical copies for PC games, and you can even trade or sell digital games of yours on PC.

Finally, the PC has the benefit of having superior multiplats, ways of customizing and modding your games, free online gaming, better multitasking capabilities, and near unlimited backwards compatibility with the 10k+ games available for it.
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>>323325470
PC does that as well.

>in b4 hurr durr I pirate everything
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>>323325470
The same game and dlc would be the same price on pc
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>>323325470
Plus the additional $50 a year if you want to use any online services.
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Low quality is cheaper than high quality, who fucking knew.
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>>323326347
The PS4 killer PC you claim is so easy is straight up bullshit.
And I don't know if you've ever seen PSN flash sales but you're absolutely wrong. Couple-month-old games dio by 10-30% all the time and older games/Indies can go down by 75% easy.
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No one considers that consoles also go on sale.

Sure you can build a console killer using discounted parts for $400, but you can get a console for like $240 on black Friday.
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>>323324690
>Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales
You lost credibility there. There is no way that you can compare them
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>buy used console for less than 200 dollars
>comes with game and controller
>outperforms 200 dollar PC built with used parts
>alternatively steal everything and just play games on any platform

checkmate atheist
your money competition is useless
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>have to pay for PSN
>"free" games are always bad now and have been since PS4 came out
>games are more expensive at launch
>sales only happen once a week with a handful of games meaning you'll have to wait possibly a year or more for a game you want to go on sale
>discounts aren't as deep as on PC games
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Most of these console killers sure can perform better than consoles, but it's still subpar gaming
I want to play 1080/60 fps, not 1080/50 with drops
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>>323327994
>psn sales
dogshit
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>>323328287
>discounts aren't as deep as on PC games
Yea when you compare a 7 year old game on sale for $5 to a 1 year old game on sale for $36, your outlook tends to get cloudy.
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>>323328602
>I want to play 1080/60 fps, not 1080/50 with drops
don't buy a console then
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>>323325470
Plus another $400 in 5 years on the next console
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>>323328754
Compare the same games fuckwit. Its always cheaper on PC.
Not to mention you can get any PC game at a discount on or before release if you just take 5 seconds to Google around. Got GTAV, Witches 3, Fallout 4 all for 30 bucks each on release.
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>>323328971
Yeah a $400 PC will totally last you for 5+ years without upgrades
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>>323329173
My 760 has lasted me since release and I'm still running games at max settings
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>>323328821
I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting, especially in any multiplayer game, moreso than stable 30 fps. I honestly don't undestand how people can play on unstable framerete on any platform
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>>323329317
Stop bullshitting
I have overclocked 670 and it's far from maxing out games now
Unless you play on 1999 resolution
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>>323329173

5 years go by
>trash console/no longer play it cause its no longer good
>replace gpu of pc and install drivers

which one is less retarded?
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>>323329317
700-series launched what, 2,5 years ago?

>recent games at max settings
at 1080p? sure. at 60fps? no.
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>>323329538
Mgs5, Witcher 3, and shadows of mordor all on max with better support than consoles by far
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>>323329559
>replace GPU twice a year

All pcfats do it whether they admit it or out. The only people who still rock HD7870s and other comparable examples are just super poor.
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>>323329559
a medium tier gpu is still $200+

and honestly after 5 years you might very well need to replace the mobo/cpu aswell if you went with a medium build to begin with
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>>323326347
>OS you can get absolutely free legally
care to spoonfeed?
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>>323324690
Im idort. In my eyes, it's really fucking simple:
If my PC can run it and it exists on it, i'll play it on PC. If it's not on PC, my PC can't run it or the game overall is better to be played from couch, i'll have it on console.

As for prices i rarely buy anything at launch. Steam or Gamestop, i'll wait for discounts, sometimes buy console game used and then ship it back.

Funfact: Pc games cannot be sold after bought (at least not in Finland.) so in long run, console is very minorly cheaper.

For piratefags, it doesn't fucking matter what you play with.
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>>323329104
Tell me how much bloodborne costs on Steam.
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>>323330191
Linux I guess.
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>>323324690
You are right.
Its a really bad comparison because it always ignores that you will waste hundreds of dollars on paid online with the PS4.
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>>323329317
Stop lying you little shit. Maybe if you play games at 720p. Below the fucking xbone.
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>>323329559
>trash console cause its no longer good
Who the fuck does that?
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>>323327351
Minus all the free games that gets you so we actually make money.
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>>323329104
>any PC game at a discount on or before release if you just take 5 seconds to Google around
If you're going that route just pirate the damn game.
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>>323326347
This is the post of a child who fell for the pc master race meme.
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>>323326619
there is nothing to hurr durr about
I pirate grand majority of my games
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>>323330191
win10 is free on microsoft website
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>>323331121
Isnt that just a free upgrade?
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>>323324690
People who think PC gaming is cheaper are legit retarded.
PC gaming costs double because it's thrice as good. You spend a bit more to have a lot more.
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>>323331453
This is pretty much what it all comes down to.
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>mfw once Denuvo becomes more used price of PC games will go up.
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>>323331453
Yeah, people seem to forget that a PC can do just about anything. That's what you're paying for, that just about anything.
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>>323330564
Let me guess, you bought a console...
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>tfw I dumped so much brit bongs into my PC that I get extremely triggered when I can't run a new game stable 60fps on Ultra
It's 2016 for Gods sake. This shouldn't be allowed.
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>>323331934
>4 monitors
>8 hard drives

for what purpose
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>>323324690
the thing is, you cant use a console for work, so if you are already buying both a console and a work pc, why not just upgrade the latter into a gaming pc?
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>>323329791
Oh fuck you. My 980 Ti barely manages 60fps on Witcher with max settings.
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>>323331736
Wont change a thing.
Piracy isnt why games are cheaper.
Steam devaluing the whole market is.
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>>323332108
For some people the small handful of exclusives makes a big enough difference.
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>>323331934
>6 hard drives
>4 screens
You shouldn't care about how much your paid for it, but your damn electircity bill.
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>>323332068
games & animes
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>>323324690
you CANNOT build a PC that will run modern games for 400$. you can make a PC that is technically better than a PS4, but PC games are generally so unoptimized (probably on purpose) that you will not run them above 20fps on anything over 720p.

source: I tried

it doesn't work, a graphics card capable of running games from this gen on 1080+ is 200$ alone.
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how can anyone deny that console gaming is far cheaper?
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>>323324690
>free games on psn

Something you pay for is not free.
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>>323331934
thats a lot of porn
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how poor do you have to be that you can't afford a ~1000€ PC once in a while? are you all fucking NEETs?
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>>323332625
>because something costs more money you should buy it

No
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I bought 15 PC games + a shitload of DLC with the money I would have used to buy 3, maybe 4 console games.

I did the math too, would have been able to buy 44 PC games if I stuck with the cheapest stuff in my wishlist.
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>>323332457
redditors who try to convince themselves that PC gaming is flawless and superior to console gaming in every way. This is coming from someone who built a $1400 PC, console gaming is cheaper but I wanted to be able to play the Witcher 3 Maxed out as do others and thats just the truth
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>>323332829
You can buy over 10 NES games on WiiU for the price of a full price PC game ($60)

See how retarded that sounds also?
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>>323332768
Well no, you shouldn't buy it just because it costs more money.

You should buy it for the benefits the added cost gives you.
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>>323333031
We are talking AAA games here, not indie garbage.
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Things that only sony ponies believe:

>PSN gives has free games!
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>>323333031
Your argument is dumb because you are comparing shitty, ancient games to AAA releases though.

I bought AAA releases, including the Witcher 3, the Saints Row games, Sleeping Dogs, Battlefield 4 and Rocket League.
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>>323333134
Probably on sale.

PC games and console games are usually the same price on release.

PS4/XB1 games usually drop in price pretty fast, you can get many games brand new for $20 which is pretty good considering its physical and not a steam rental.
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ive had this pc for about 3 years now and can still run pretty much anything at max. havent tried fallout 4 for obvious reasons (its still 60 bucks on steam)
Both gaming plats (pc and console) have their own pros and cons, it is really just based on preference in my opinion. i mean i game on PC but i also have a ps4 and xbone.
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>>323333507
>steam rental
wut? since when does steam rent games
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>>323331383
there is a media tool you can install on flashdrive and I've installed it on couple of PC's
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>>323332108
>/v/
>work
The type of person who posts bait consolewar threads doesn't have a job
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>>323333507
>steam rental

Games I buy on Steam for $5, some even multiple times to gift to friends, are rented.

Games you get with PSN that you can't access if you stop paying are FREE.
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>>323324690
I would argue that PC gaming is better overall, particularily for the enthusiast but also that people that misrepresent facts to make their argument or fail to realize that consoles fit better for some people's lives they are doing nobody, certainly not themselves, any favors.

PC generally ends up fairly expensive and although some of the pre-builts are decent they partially defeat the point

Consoles are easier to transport unless you get a laptop which again partially defeats the point

I'll probably always play primarily on PC but it's worth looking at consoles always
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>>323333840
Being better than PSN doesnt mean shit. That shit is fucking awful.
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>>323333840
name some examples because ive never heard of that lol either you are trolling or you dont use steam. Even if i have no internet i can still play all my games and i have about 900$ worth of games
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>>323332540
I'm part of the TRUE master race, the idort, but it's like four bucks a month. I'd pay that for just the convenience of automatic cloud backup. It's greedy, sure, but you actually get a quality product unlike other certain free but shoddy MP platforms which often get a pass on here.
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>>323324690

Once a new console gen comes out, you need to shell out for a whole new console. Sure, you can sell your current one, but then you lose out on all of the games you had before. With PC you can keep running shit into the next gen by turning the settings down, or buying an upgrade that'll be cheaper than a whole new, release price console would be. You also have the benefit of not having to find space for each console you own because you only ever need one computer tower.

Long term, PC gaming is way better. Hell, thanks to emulation PCs can play more console games than consoles can.

I don't have anything against consoles or PC either way, but I don't see why there's this ongoing dick waving contest going on between the two.
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>>323324690
People saying console gaming is cheaper obviously don't play online as that can add $500 to $1000 dollars on top due to the cost.

Having Xbox Live for the life of the console (around 8 years) if using the yearly cost ($120 dollars from M$) goes to $960, for the same money (~$1500) you can get a high end gaming rig which is a direct upgrade.

PS4 is cheaper but still the same cost as a high end gaming rig ($1000).
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I used to buy single player games on my xbox 360. In the end you pay kinda lot for them.
Since I built my pc i just pirate single player and buy few multi. It ends cheaper this way for me.
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>>323333840
if you buy games on steam you own them, a rental is temporary ownership
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>>323329173
lol what the fuck? yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.

besides, upgrading a GPU or CPU is a lot cheaper then buying a whole new system


consolefags i swear
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>>323334464
agreed
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>>323326619
I've pirated the last 20 games i played with the exception of black ops 3,on console i would've never played those games
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>>323333716
False flag faggots operating on the "if steam goes down, you lose access to your games!" shit.

The terrible secret behind the idea is that services like PSN and Xbox live will disappear before Steam does.
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>>323334092
That was my point, for all intents and purposes I own those games. I couldn't care less about plastic boxes, one page manuals or my games taken away from me.
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>>323324690
>call it "console killer"
>still get nothing but console ports from years ago

top fucking kek
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>>323324690
Who the hell buys their operating system?
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>>323334613
i pirated new vegas ultimate for the lulz and also mortal kombat komplete. was not dissappointed
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>>323327959
What a shit argument,one can assume that the pc parts can go on sale as well, thats like saying console gaming is cheaper because you got it for free as a gift
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>>323334635
bro im on steam's side. i said even if i had no internet i can still play all my games on steam, lol why the hostility friend?
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>but but but valve is going to take away all your games

no. theyre not.
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>>323334464
>yes a 400 dollar pc will last you 5 years if you're willing to settle for console graphics and framerates you fag.
You'll have to settle for less.

Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps? a $400 build today will likely have a 750ti or equivalent, no fucking way will that hold it for years to come.
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>>323334648
sorry i misunderstood lol
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>>323334964
>Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps

That would be nice, wouldn't it?
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>>323335036
kek. my pc still gets 60fps on most games. 30fps on new games recently released. all at 1080
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>>323334964
>You'll have to settle for less

By using a console you're settling for less anyway, and you can't upgrade it to make the experience better.

>Isn't the console norm 1080p / 30fps?

You fucking wish it was
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>>323330261
Exclusives are horrible for arguments regarding the quality of the platform and they are bad for the health of the game industry. Theres literally no positives to a game being console exclusive
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>>323334964
top kek
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>>323324690
Console gaming is more expensive in the long run if you are an avid video games enthusiast. PC is the ultimate poorfag machine, there's a reason why sandinggers are all on PC.
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>>323324690
>console gaming is cheaper
Get better at math you stupid fuck. the price you pay at the cash register is merely the down payment, and get ready to pay for your shit toy box FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>323335374
>750ti manages to hold about 30fps on gta 5 high settings today
>it will still manage it on new games 5 years from now
>I'm the retarded one
okay anon
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>>323334892
>valve takes VAC bans you
>can still play single player games
>can still play multiplayer games on unsecured servers

>ms bans you
>be publicly ridiculed on their forums while pretending to be your parents
>not only bans accounts but console too

At lest I own my games! Look at my pretty boxes and manuels.
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>>323335859
dont ever disrespect the 750ti pleb.
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one point of a pc is that you are allowed to spend more than $400 to get hardware that isn't complete ass.

you don't have that option with consoles.
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>>323335859
i dont understand? Is your console hardware becoming magically more powerful as time goes on?
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>>323324690
>free games on PSN
>paid subscription service

anon...
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>>323335943
>valve takes VAC bans you
maybe if you would git gud instead of cheating you wouldnt have to worry about it, oh i forgot you spend more time arguing over voice chat to ever git gud.
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>>323336136
I'm not even a consolefag you fucking idiot what the fuck, I'm just being realistic
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>>323330810
>Free
>get

i think you mean "paid for" and "rent"

>>323326945
Except they wouldnt be.
Games are always cheaper on PC.
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>>323324690
>Free games on PSN

That you pay a monthly fee on that doesn't exist on pc (nor should exist on consoles).

You can get an OS for free completely legally, Linux, and like a console OS it is also complete ass for gaming.

With a computer, you also get, well, a computer.
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I don't know why anyone would want game boxes around anymore. They are not even unique like most old printed game boxes, they are generic plastic case with a sheet of paper stuck in them.

Game manuals stopped existing like 4 years ago too so why bother?
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>>323336221
i like dat rig u got son lol
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>>323335675
>1 year membership
>49.99 usd

haha wtf, to use a consoles full functions you have to take on some payment plan? Why? It's worse than a PC
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>>323336136
>more powerful as time goes

Yes, actually.
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>>323329983

GPU generations aren't even that short, shitposter-kun.
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>>323325470
dont forget extra controllers
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yeah i want a cd that can be damaged and ill have to buy another. fucking plebs.
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>>323329983
ive had my gpu since 2012 you dumbass
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>>323336493
you can't damage a CD unless you're retarded or a little kid
are you 12?
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>>323336221
>fucking idiot what the fuck

thats how i feel. You're telling me that a 750ti wont maintain 30fps 1080p for 5 years unlike a console. But what kind of sense does that make? A consoles hardware isnt getting better as time goes on, the framerates either get worse, or the graphics are toned down to accommodate, its the same shit as having a budget GPU
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>>323324690
Console gaming is not "cheaper" because your gaming pc replace your old pc. If you own a console you still need a laptop/desktop pc to be able to shitpost on /v/. With a gaming pc you can both play video games and post on /v/.
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>>323336680
no but i have children, and animals, i guess you will never understand because you will be forever alone. also the sensor itslf can be easily dislodged and scratch a cd pretty descent
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>>323328971
and a minimum of $250 for PSN/Live in that 5 years.
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>>323336746
don't wanna meme on you but the whole "optimization" thing is an actual thing
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You can see the hypocrisy on both fucking sides of the argument

Also who the fuck pays full price for psn or gold?

You can get a 12 months key from popular key sites for less than half price. I've been doing this for years. This year I got 12 months gold for even less because of black friday and picked up 12 months, elder scrolls online and farcry 4 for less than the regular price of a 12 months card and still had money left over
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>>323336887
i like you anon
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>>323336950
>no but i have children, and animals,
so you just leave all your CDs around the room?
shelves exist for a reason
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>>323337052
ok? The graphics are toned down to accommodate weaker hardware. So when you have a budget GPU you start lowering settings to make the game run acceptably.

Its the same thing.
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>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper ,
It's not

Games on console are flat out more expensive here in the UK

If I choose between retailers I can get a new/preordered pc title for £20
For that same game on console I can usually at best get it for £35
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>>323337154
no because i don't own any cd's you autistic fuck lol.
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>>323336746
Consoles get optimization. The games only look marginally worse despite the difference in hardware. PC is a shit platform filled with entitled little faggots, developers don't give a shit about it,they'll just shit out an unoptimized glitchfest port and tell you to buy the lasted Nvidia card, and you'll happilly do it.
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>>323337087
Thanks anon. What console warriors fail to understand is that the point of the gaming pc is to use your everyday PC to play video games as well. It's just practical. And cheap in itself because you NEED a pc nowadays. The only people who don't own a PC are elderly. And even then all my grandparents own a PC with internet nowadays.
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>>323337279
>Consoles get optimization.

holy shit this board is dumb. optimization isnt some console exclusive concept
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MGSV is a perfect example of why pc is better. look at the difference in graphics
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>>323329401
>I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting, especially in any multiplayer game, moreso than stable 30 fps.
This is some bad bait.
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>>323331934
what cooler are you using?
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>>323337332
yep. i use mine for pretty much everything from work to fap
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>>323337387
It's more effective on consoles though.
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>>323337332
A laptop is better for general computing purpose. As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go.
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>>323331934
>4 monitors
>6 HDDs
>An SSD
>Only an R9 290/290x
You for real nigger?
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>>323337526
can you explain why?

On PC you lower graphical effects and you get better performance. That's what they're doing when they "optimize" your console games.
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>>323337387
It almost is. I can't remeber any optimized game I played on PC from the last couple of years. Even traditionally PC franchises run like shit.
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>>323337576
I have a desktop pc and play games on my sofa

I don't get your point
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>>323337576
>As for a desktop PC I'd fucking hate to play video games sitting at a desk. Big ass TV & maximum comfy couch is the way to go

then play your pc games on a big comfy couch with a big ass TV
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>>323329317
>760
>implying it can max out any recent AAA game even @720p and 60fps

I'm all for PC gaming, but it's not for poorfags.
It's about the possibilities consoles don't have (mods and performance) and gaining the best results. You'd have to be retarded to think any of that is possible without spending some actual money on your rig.
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>>323337683
Oh, I didn't know that driver updates actually just lowered my graphics settings.
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>>323329401
>frame
Turn off the damn v-sync if your toaster can't keep up.
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>>323337739
you must run a toaster then
>>323337576
my desktop is also positioned where i game on my sofa. gtfo with your craptop fuckery
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>>323337824
what the fuck?
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>>323337576
>a laptop is better
Eeeh? Really? Those things are way too fucking slow unless you buy an expensive one. Also that's retarded, you can be comfy on your PC too.
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>>323337526
Not really, in most cases they just lower resolution, texture quality, shader quality, model quality, etc. etc.
Not to mention they'll often tone down or outright disable things like tessellation (some examples of this are Tomb Raider Definitive and Metro Redux, which don't use tessellation on consoles).
An example of this would be Uncharted 4 MP vs SP.
MP looks much MUCH worse than SP and even then it still can't sustain a constant 60 FPS while running at 900p.
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>>323337526
System requirments keep increasing on PC but the games look only marginally better than the console counterpart. How do you explain that?
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>used console
>it always reeks of ash and is stained by smokers tar
>no one ever checks that they work correctly

>used pc parts
>often still has lifetime warranty
>usually fully refurbished

its like not even close to comparable
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>>323336680
Except you can. THe PS4was of such poor build quality that the first batch could actually scratch the disc while it was spinning in the drive.

the xbox 360 had the same problem
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>>323337576
Nah, even for my finance schoolwork I prefer my desktop.
Laptops have shit for screen real estate, they don't have an actual mouse, and they're generally slower.
The mouse adds so much to my computing experience it's not even a fair comparison, even using Excel on my laptop is a pain in the ass since the trackpad is garbage.
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>>323337983
And then there's games that look great and run great (max payne 3 and war thunder spring into mind)

How a nigga explain dat shiz
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>>323338056
i actually stated that in the post he was replying to
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>>323324690
>only mentioning PSN
Go back to neogaf. No one wants your here.
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>>323337983
>but the games look only marginally better than the console counterpart.
I love this meme.
Just so you know, the PC in this image is running on medium settings.
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>>323329791
>Witcher 3 max settings
>better support than consoles
>760
This is why the PC community is doomed. You don't even notice how shit your hardware is right now.
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>>323333604
I thought I was the only guy on /v/ with a 2320.
I thought it was just a stop-gap until Ivy-Bridge came out, but it turned out there wasn't enough reason to upgrade. Now I wish I had got the 2500k but oh well, ~700mhz isn't the end of the world.
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>>323331934
>waah I can't run recent AAA games at 60fps at 1080p on multiple monitors
>R9 290X

It's because you're a stupid piece of shit.
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>>323338252
thank you anon
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>>323329317
This.

Fuck, my 280 still does almost every game I want to play at max.
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>>323337798
>>323337808
>>323337920

How many people do you think play their PC in their living room? How do you play your daily 6 hours of assfaggots? On your TV? No, you sit at your shitty desk and destroy your eyes with a shitty 19" monitor while you destroy your prostate with a Gabe Newell dildo.

>>323337952
>>323338135
Too poor for a laptop heh? How's that mom's basement?
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>>323338341
it runs great even now and overclocks at 3.2
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>>323334424
>"""owning""" proprietary softwares
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>>323338210
this.
Go back to gaf OP. xbox live and nintendo eshop both have weekly sales also.
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>>323338523
i play on my 72 inch flatscreen tv in my living room, get raped faggot. go back to your 17 inch screen with no mouse
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>>323338252
Well, it does only marginally look better. If you were to play the PS4 version you wouldn't even notice.

You should have posted one of those modded skyrim picture.
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>>323338461
The 280/280x/7970/GHz are all great.
My 280x can even pull off 1440p60 and rarely 4k30 in some games.
>>323338523
>Too poor for a laptop heh?
Nah, I have a $110 netbook that I use for school, PSP emulation, and old games.
I prefer my desktop for gaming at home and my WiiU for gaming in bed.
Laptops are honestly garbage even for browsing the internet compared to a computer.
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>>323338543
Yeah I had trouble with the original heatsink so I bought a 212 Evo and I've been running it at 3.7ghz for 3+ years without problem.
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>>323326945
Really?

Because I originally bought space marine for consoles, never bought a DLC, then I bought it on PC with all the dlc included for half the price of a single DLC on console, even when discounted.
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>>323338682
>Well, it does only marginally look better.
Yep, on medium settings.
So you agree that consoles are weak and can only pull off low settings?
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>>323337907
I don't use vsync ever, you dumb fuck. It's not my problem you can't notice when game goes below 60, 1 or 10 frames. It's especially noticeable in fast paced games, where you start to experience input disturbances.
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>>323324690
If you want to get into PC gaming without making a big investment in the start you might as well get a console or get nothing at all and save up your money for a decent PC.
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>>323338523
>too poor for a craptop
i just spat coffee all over my lap. i make 1500 dollars a week for penetration testing you dumbass, get a degree in information tech. and ethical hacking then attempt to insult me. lolol
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>>323338523
So the fact that literally everyone doesn't use their pc in their lounge means that it's not possible?

What kind of argument is this? I thought we were discussing the benefits of pcs vs consoles not creating weird fucking accusations
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>>323338894
>I would rather play at 30 FPS than 59-60 FPS
This is some advanced autism.
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>>323338703
My Atom convertible works great any time I need something portable and it plays games about as well as my mid-2000s gaming pc did, which means there are tons of good games I can play on it.
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>>323338854
Why do graphics matter so much to you? It's the same fucking game, and the game indeed looks only marginally better. What do you gain from making consoles look bad?
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>>323338728
shit how much was ur heatsink i may switch over for 3.7,
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>>323324690
>free games on psn
They aren't free, dingus
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>>323339003
When I need something portable I just use my phone like a normal person.
Laptops are great for school, but I personally wouldn't recommend them for anything more than that.
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>>323338523
>Too poor for a laptop heh?

Laptops are trash

>How's that mom's basement?

I live on the second floor faggot
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>>323339058
About 30 bucks.
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>>323338987
I said I find it disturbing, I won't play either. on PC1 I would lower the graphics till it becomes absolutely stable 65+. Call it a placebo, but my input feels much better at 100+ fps. I think some of the games have inputs depends on fps.
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>>323339054
they matter because a blurred image will cause eye strain and after prolonged use, can cause you to start needing glasses
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>>323338854
Good luck with that framerate killing hair, pkucks
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>>323339221
thanks anon will def look into that
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>>323339195
You can't play a nice comfy game of Civilization on your couch with a phone.
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>>323339254
Not really. People have been playing Ocarina of Time at 340p 20fps and they loved it.

You're just and autistic faggot who cares more about some stupid number than the actual games. No wonder you have 1500 + hours on assfaggots.
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>>323339567
Tell me this doesn't make your eyes bleed.
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>>323339567
actually my most played game has only 60 hours. i have a job and family to tend to. and i agree i am a huge loz fan, but when you have the choice of having better graphics why ignore it. btw i still emulate ocarina of time and majora's mask, i have no qualms with older platforms. It's the newer ones that promise the best in graphics and processing power but fail to deliver.
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>>323339054
>Why do graphics matter so much to you?
If graphics didn't matter we wouldn't even have a new generation m8.
And yes, the game looks marginally better on medium settings.
On max settings it's almost a night-and-day difference thanks to the improved draw distance, better shading, better AO, improved shadows, etc. etc.
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>>323326347
can you even get the same performance on PC of a ps4 for 300 dollars
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>>323339502
You're right, I can play it in my comfy desk chair.
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>>323339054

The thread started with some console shitter acting like a defensive faggot about his inferior platform and trying to rip on PC gamers.

You really don't expect PC gamers to point out what a heap of shit all of that is?
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>>323329401
>I find the drop between 60 and 59 fps extremely distracting
Those eagle eyes of yours are clearly activating your autism.
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>>323339362
>Consolefag talking about framerate killers
The ironing.
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>>323339797
You discovered gaming last year? Let me guess it's reddit that told you video games are cool and you asked mom to buy you a prebuilt "master race pc" to be cool?
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>>323339567
If graphics don't matter, why did we need this console generation?
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>>323340019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH6FCgqQB_s
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>>323339362

Now take a wide angle shot of an expansive terrain view on both and we can have some more laughs.
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http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html

Check out this list, how many PC exclusives are there on the first page compared to console exclusives.
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>>323340143
oh the nostalgia!
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>>323339054
>Why do graphics matter so much to you?
I agree. Why is Sony making me pay for a minimal graphics upgrade while also charging for online?
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>>323340019
i did. got a nice ass gaming pc for 250 on black friday that runs any and i mean any game at 60fps
maybe if you got a job you could afford it anyway faggot
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>>323340143
Inferior in what sense? How is enjoying all the relevant video games the way they're meant to be played on a machine dedicated to play video games "inferior"?
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>>323340252
yep
PC is playing at true 1080p. Consoles are at 900p and 720p.
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>>323340421
>the way they're meant to be played
Silky smooth 20 FPS.
#thewayitsmeanttobeplayed
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>>323339894
>It's the newer ones that promise the best in graphics and processing power
lmao
if you were older you would know these two things were ALWAYS arguments between consoles
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>>323340341
Seriously, why do we need a new generation for anything other than graphics? Other than for Sony to sell another 50 million consoles of course.
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>>323340303
>Mfw anon proves once again that PC + Nintendo is the best pairing
Feels good.
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>>323340571
lmao im 21 years old
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I like to think of consoles as using a bus and PC as owning a car

also you have to remember that a PC isn't solely used for gaming
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>>323340421
>the way they're meant to be played
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>>323324690
>free games on psn
>free
lol
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>>323340267
Because console companies want more money.
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>>323340524
How is Bloodborne running on your PC?
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>>323340491
>if I spend $800 I'll have a better experience than when I spend $400

You must be some kind of genius.
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>>323340421

>how is paying yearly subs for worse graphics that run at worse framerates with no settings, no mods a problem? I like paying more over time and claiming it's cheaper because my shitbox was cheaper up front!

Gee, I guess it isn't inferior.
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>>323340524
Looks like its time for an """hd-remake"""
Why wouldn't we want to buy the same game three times simply for better resolution and framrate?
fucking consoles man.
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>>323340614
Its true. The new console games arent pushing anything but visuals.
You dont see the power used for smarter AIs or anything.

Like a game like Street Fighter 5 could actually run on PS1 hardware, if you stripped away the titty physics and particle effects. Nothing the game does is particularly heavy for computing. The mechanics have all been done before decades ago.

Games dont even run better. Something like Bloodborne has just as many FPS dips as Dark Souls on the PS3.
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>>323340824
It's the same price, anon.
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I don't understand why PC gamers/enthusiasts are trying to push the whole "it's cheaper" opinion. Both sides end up doing some pretty fucked up hollywood accounting to make their side cheaper. Hurrdurr Ubuntu is all you need therefore you save $100, hurrdurr if you have to pay for XBG you also have to take into account ISP charges...

Like it's also so fucking stupid, different needs for different folks.
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>>323340824
You will spend 800$ thanks to PSN+ and XBL charging you monthly.
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>>323324690
>Compare price of a new console to computer built out of used parts (as opposed to used console)
The most popular, the Potato Masher, was $350 (the price of a used PS4 then).

>Disregard fact consoles are pre-bundled with OS and controller
It included M/KB in that price. OS can be gotten for 1/3 the price of PS+ ($20 from kinguin for a 7 key that can be upgraded for free to 10 just to make sure its legit). Pretty sure non-keyed 7's only drawback is a black desktop and a startup notification.

>Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn and used game market and reselling games on consoles to save cash.
and >>323326619
..See pic. Good luck getting these prices on console, not to mention $1-5 games that predate the PS4 and that can now be played at 4k.

Even more.. original-gen i5s playing GTA V at 4k30-60 with a fucking 760 (resolution is GPU).
(>>323340287); and original-gen i7s are playing games at the same framerate as top-level i5s now, some games even better.

1/2
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>>323340846
thats one of the best pictures ive seen
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>>323340421
>the way they are meant to be played
>consoles use AMD grafics cards
does not compute
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>>323340824
>FX 6300
>GTX 760
>$800
Sounds more like $600 actually.
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>>323340793
How is Dwarf Fortress playing on your console?
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>>323341089

Foreverial Tiedup Jake is classic.
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>>323341117
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>why would you pay more when console gaming is cheaper?
>lmoa who cares about graphics and fps

>most of "next" gen games are ports and remakes in "HD"
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>>323341062
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>>323341201

>inb4 ASCII LOL OMG THAT ANCIENT SHIT PBBT INDIESHIT
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>>323324690
>Oy vey PCs are so expensive
Good thing it's a hobby and that's where I dump my disposable income.
I hate to make this a rich fag vs poor fag thread but even poor fags who are employed should shell out an extra buck or two if they care about their fucking hobbies instead of being Jews and sucking corporate cock for halo and the order.

Secondly you need a computer, investing in a good computer is beneficial to both gaming as a hobby, as well as futureproofing your computer so it doesn't shit out like that piece of shit you bought on sale at frys for 150.

Third, if consoles are so fucking great, then why are you on your PC complaining on an anonymous image board to tell me about it?
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>>323340984
How is that image realistic at all?

>no one ever buys things on sale
>steam users never pay over 40 for games
>dlc is non existent
>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC
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>>323341013
Yeah , after 20 years you spend $800 combined
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>>323341372
>>in 8 years no one is ever going to upgrade their PC
I think the funny part is that the current consoles will see an upgrade this gen before someone with a GTX 760 has to upgrade.
There are already rumors that the new Xbone refresh will use an AMD Polaris APU.
Hope you goys are ready to upgrade to the Xbox One.1 so you'll be able to play the next few years worth of games.
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>>323341354

Hell, I'm a poor wagecuck and used to own all 3 consoles and a proper gaming PC untill I sold all my consoles except Xbone cause I enjoy racing games, though I'd rather keep my Wii U than PS4
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>>323341264
It hilarious because they spam the opposite parroting against Nintendo shit.
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>>323341264
also it's amazing how much money potential consoles have

there are studios that spent money on one game ported it to ps3/360 and then ported it to ps4/bone

that's actually insane, I clearly understand why both consoles didn't include backwards compatibility and why next-gen won't have it either
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>>323341372
So buy the games at 20 bucks and spend 800 on a new pc half way through.
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>>323341223
is there more to it?
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>>323341354
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>>323340984
>all games on console are $60
when will this meme end
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>>323324690
>console gaming is cheaper

nice bullshit,

now that'll be $59.99 + tax + tip
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>>323341013
And your WoW subscription will cost you even more.

The monthly costs for features were irrelevant to the point. The point was that paying more for superior hardware would yield better results. Nobody's disputing that. It's just a useless argument to make. Consoles are appealing due to low costs, exclusives and "couch gaming". Naturally, if performance and extra features were important to an anon, PC would be the obvious choice. But they don't seem to be, since anon seems content with the quality consoles provide, so you might want to jump onto another argument.
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>>323334847
How is that a shit argument? Every one of these "console killer PC" were made out of on-sale parts off neweggs. Those PC parts were already on sale.
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>>323341581
In some dream world maybe.
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>>323341583

>consoles actually upping their specs mid lifecycle

Imagine the asspain of the people who don't want to have to upgrade being told " lol your earlier iteration doesn't support Game™ "
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>>323340657
Umm, No. There are 20 console exclusive games in the top 50 greatest games of all time. Not all of them Nintendo AND 0 exclusive PC games. So Consoles win 20-0.
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>>323341583
I wouldn't be surprised ultimately. If only microsoft put as much attention on the xbox as they did the surfacebook and created a product with longevity.

>>323341647
There are a variety of routes one could take in 8 years of gaming, the point I was making is that the image has a very linear and false perception of how much gamers actually do spend. It would be great if someone actually made an infographic that wasn't as biased as trying to sell more consoles/pcs. Gamers spend a fuckload.
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>>323341730
Again, you're putting up a new game price against a sale price. Why are mustards so retarded? You can get console games for 10 and under.
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>>323341730
*implements denuvo*

That'll be 59.99 from you too, mr fedora. Do you want the Season Pass too?
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>>323341779
>subscribing to MMOs
>playing MMOs
>paying for WoW when its literally free to play right now
>thinking that consoles are somehow better off when you would have to pay for a FF14 sub AND PSN+ if you want to continue playing other games online
>monthly costs are irrelevant because my shitty argument hinges on ignoring them
>consoles are appealing due to low cost, but only because I choose to ignore the hidden costs attached to them
0/10
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>>323341665

This one may have come first, I don't recall. There are a couple others you can find, but they're not related to the original creator about which I know nothing.
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>>323341178
And a case. PCU. And keyboard. And mouse. Optional controller. Motherboard. RAM.

I highly doubt you could get all needed hardware to run BF4 @1080p and 60fps consistently only costs you $600. But if it does, I'm more than willing to withdraw the argument.
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>>323341953
Yes, but you'll never get to play them online without coughing up a few hundred bucks for PSN.
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>>323341914
>Super Mario Galaxy
>OoT
>Super Mario Galaxy 2
>SM64
>Metroid Prime
>Goldeneye
>Twilight Princess
>Perfect Dark
>Wind Waker

>The rest are multiplats, The Last of Us, Journey, Uncharted, Halo, and RDR
Kek, like I said, PC + Nintendo is the best combination.
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A PC just enables a wider range of games
Something like Aurora would never work on a console
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>>323341779
>hows pc gaming cheaper if I spent over 1000 dollars on league of legends
This is you.
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>>323341914
>mfw there's only six games on there that I can't emulate
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>>323332408
You're bullshitting, and you only have to be above 30FPS to be better than most relevant console games.

That $350 PC?
>DaSII at 4k60.
https://youtu.be/uZR-a35sxLg?t=12m56s
>GTA V at 4k30-60.
https://youtu.be/DH6FCgqQB_s?t=6m8s
>MGS V at 4k30.
https://youtu.be/hPq_nEskCiQ?t=4m56s

30 FPS on PS4:
>Ass Creed
>Batman
>Bloodborne
>Destiny
>Drive Club
>FO4
>Far Cry 4
>GTA V
>Infamous
>JC3
>Mad Max (a game known for its optimization)
>Need for Speed (a game on the Frostbite engine, known for its optimization as well)
>etc. (http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates)

An i3 and a fucking 750ti can play every multiplat at or above PS4 FPS.

1/2
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>>323342056
>MY monthly costs are optional!
>YOURS are magically NOT!
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>>323342074

http://rafe15.deviantart.com/gallery/

I found his deviantart. Have fun.
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>>323332967

> >>323342296
2/2
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>>323342296
Speaking of PC -> specs videos, some are really fucked up. Like how the fuck are people playing shit at 4k 120fps with an Intel 4000?
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>>323342181
>m, No. There are 20 console exclusive games in the top 50 greatest games of all time. Not all of them Nintendo AND 0 exclusive PC games. So Consoles win 20-0.

I said console exclusive games are 20, so 7 on Nintendo and 13 on Microsoft / Sony consoles, I didn't count duplicates. and 0 PC exclusives.
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PC has free online multiplayer.
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>>323342341
>paid online for all games in 2016
>optional
-1/10
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>>323333719
Could you please link the tool? Fuck windows 8
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>>323342074
amazing amazing, how is a man like this made
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>>323342420
>how the fuck are people playing shit at 4k 120fps with an Intel 4000?
>implying any videos claim this
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>>323341914
>Super Mario Galaxy is the greatest game of all time
>Mount & Blade low 70s
You are a retard and doing the console side of this argument no favors
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>>323342215
>consoles are only equally expensive if you pay the optional monthly subscription for years!
And here's you.
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>>323342615
>optional
>for half of most games' functionality
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>>323342412
thanks anon, stuff like this tickles me to no end
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>>323324690
The parts in those build are not "used", they're brand new in box parts from an online retailer.

Are you retarded?
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>>323341953
>You can get console games for 10 and under.

I'm not talking about shovelware and "free" psn titles.

I'm talking about the precious exclusives. When they come out you pay $59.99+.

No consolefag waits a year until the price drops with the level of shilling/circlejerking that goes on here.
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>>323342215
who the fuck plays league. fuck mobas. making pc gamers look bad with your assfaggotry
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>>323342262.

It is sad that a PC gamer has to emulate the good games because they don't have anything but undertale garbage.
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>>323342480
Windows 8 is great
install classic shell and have your life set

>>323342550
anon the exaggeration is for comedic effect, but there are some videos that actually imply they can run certain games on shit hardware. It's fucked up.
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If you care about graphics you are a casual faggot
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>>323329983

I'm still using a 660ti and I'm able to play every game on mostly high settings/1080p, which still looks and runs better than anything on console.

And I don't plan on upgrading until the new generation of cards come out later this year even though I have the money.
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>>323342685
>multiplayer games are literally the only thing that exists
>$30 a year is more than $200 every few years for a new gp
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>>323342476
>playing online
>where performance and accuracy matters
>paying for it

I play online on PC, thanks.
Console is for comfy gaming on the couch with friends.
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>>323342341
do u even pirate faggot
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>>323342817
Like? As stated in the thread, an i3 and 750ti can play most games better than consoles.
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>>323342615
Let's list pc games with monthly subscriptions
Wow
Final fantasy

Let's list ps4 games with monthly subscriptions
Literally all of them because Xbox live and psn

I don't play wow or final fantasy, but I play a lot of games online without paying an extra cent for it. I don't have to pay for the privilege of playing my game online.

Your argument is shit and you're shit for it. You know exactly what you are doing and should be ashamed of yourself.
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>>323330935
This is the post of a poor sap unable to argue with cold, hard facts.
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>>323342686
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>>323342864
>PS4
>couch coop
Good one. Sony made sure that everybody plays online only so that people buy more PS4s.

Only console left that actually has a couch coop focus is the WiiU, and nobody cares about that one.
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>>323342137
You clearly don't know shit about building a PC family.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zqttP6
>>323342341
If you're not playing WoW you don't have to sub to it, and you can still play any non-sub games online.
If you don't pay for PS+ you can't even play GTAO.
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>>323342818

>not caring about technological progression

eat shit
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free games on psn
monthly sub is no free or are you talking about f2p games

face the reality consolebros
the PC is the better plaftorm and consoles are only useful when you want to play exclusives.
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I don't know what people constantly compare PC to ps4, not only because of the price difference, the PS4 is like a regular car that everybody owns and drives, it offers reliable performance yet some elitist will always comes along with 600 cylinder ferriari super car boasting about performance then drives off and dose 20 in a school zone because there no fucken roads for the thing to even utilize it's power.

I guess performance automatically become the thing you have to fall back on after missing out on two generations of games. Whats the point of mad performance with no games? Since you obviously don't consider multiplats real games and I also agree, they typically are the exact bottom of the barrel type of software you would expect, so why are PC cucks so proud of maxing them I don't understand?
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>>323343136
Don't bother. These are the niggers who get excited when they get "a free copy of [game] with every 50 dollar kickstarter donation"
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>>323342954
like an FX 83 + R 6570

> As stated in the thread, an i3 and 750ti can play most games better than consoles.
I'm not arguing that point, I'm talking about some videos themselves that are actually retarded.
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>>323342832
>$30 a year
No.

>$200 every few years for a new GPU
Meanwhile.. >>323342413 (and >as if consoles get upgrades)
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>>323342565
Mount & Blade, hahahahahahaha lmao
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>>323342137
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>>323342990
I already stated I play the game I play online on PC. It's free, and the increased performance and KB+M feels essential.

So, the monthly costs for online play is as optional for me as monthly costs for MMOs I don't play. Consoles are for comfy. PC is for performance and online.
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>>323343325
>ever buying a used GPU
mustard race, everyone
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>>323343325
>Kepler
no thank you
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>>323342413
my evga geforce gt740 superclocked edition 2gb gpu was around 80$
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>>323343118
>caring about anything other than gameplay
>>>/lit/
>>>/mu/
>>>/tv/
>>>/sci/
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>>323343305
A mid-tier PC still performs better than a PS4.

PS4 is like those hoverboards that niggers ride around on.
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>>323343512
>comfy
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here you faggots go

http://gpushack.com/

enjoy cheap video cards
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>>323324690
>free psn games
>free
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>>323343530
>damage control
>8800s still on the market that would play just fine

>>323343537
IKR?
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>>323343113
Enjoy a max of 35-40fps with that shit build, familia.
I thought you wanted a PC for better quality.
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>>323343565
You got ripped off.
Word of advice, don't ever buy those shitty low-end GTX x40/x30 or AMD R5 x40/x30.
For just $40 more you could easily get double the performance from a GTX 950 or an R9 270/370.
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Console gaming can be cheaper depending where you live.
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>>323343696
>cheap
Nah.
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>>323330810
I like that his meme is still going strong but not so strong that it's instantly called b8.
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>>323343596
>how dare he enjoy himself on his couch
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>>323343769
Are you retarded m8?
see
>>323340491
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>>323343829
Yeah I picked up a 730 for my brothers pc because it had a stock psu. Very disappointing performance for the price.
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>>323343769

that's about 10 more fps than consoles, senpai :^)
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>>323343980
>$200 more for 10 fps more
Seems fair.
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I just spent 720 euro on a PC before even buying an operating system or a mouse. The fact of the matter is. You want to play games and enjoy them at an affordable price? Go console.
You want the best possible experience? Go PC.
You're going to pay almost twice as much before you start seeing any REAL benefits in terms of the experience you're having but once you do see it, there's just no going back.
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>>323324690
"pc exclusives"
>285 replies and 47 images omitted. Click here to view.
wew are all the assfaggots quarantined in here or what
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>>323326347
Looks like babby discovered the word seldom today.

Good for you.
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>>323343829
i know that now. i got it about 2 years ago. i have an amd radeon HD6770 now. it runs smoother even with 1gb less vram
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>>323343768
You can get a used Krippler card for U$150 woah so amazing take that console users!
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>>323343769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJWtFSiVyjs
Literally double the framerate of PS4.
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>>323343946
Why go Pc if you can't go max settings?
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Who here didn't let /v/ brainwash them into not enjoying things??

Still enjoying 30 fps, still not getting hurt ass at 30 frames, , all I'm doing is just playing and enjoying games. No idea why someone would internally embody the 60fp meme, we get 1080p 60fps games on PS4 too but for some reason we don't turn into elitist, pessimistic negative assholes, very strange that.

It's also weird that PC users don't think multiplats count on console yet they suddenly do on PC.
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>>323344236
Because you can still do 60 FPS on high settings instead of 30 FPS on medium-high?
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>>323343113
>>323343498

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFXtIQymtR8
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>>323344242

>i like eating shit and it tastes better when it comes from sony.

ayy
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>>323344242
They have to count something, there are no good PC exclusives. So they lie and cheat.
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>>323324690
I literally just have a costco prebuilt pc that I got for maybe 400 american, and shoved a 750 ti it and can play all the games I want at max 60 fps.
Im guessing its about 500 american? But Im canadian so there was some tax and inflation involved.
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>>323344242
>we get 1080p 60fps games on PS4 too but for some reason we don't turn into elitist, pessimistic negative assholes
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>>323344213
>high settings

What's the point of getting a PC?
>paying more, and yet still don't get optimal experience
>ultra or bust faggots
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>>323344357
And you still settled for less, missing the entire point of PC.
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>>323343908
>i like consoles because I can play them on a couch
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>hey guys check out our $353.24 console-killer build!
>first up we're gonna be reusing an i5 2500k from an older build
>total so far is $0 :^)
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>>323332559
Honestly, it's getting out of hand
>>323337460
H100i GT
>>323337593
Shit I just noticed that. I actually have 3 monitors don't know why that happened.
My only other option is buying another 290, which means buying a new PSU. I don't got that kind of money nigga
>>323338373
>playing on more than one monitor
>60fps stable on ULTRA
Are you fucking braindead or can you just not read?
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>>323344648
>>323344787
Post speccy.
You'd better have at least an i7 5960x and 2 GTX 980 Tis.
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>>323344829
I like consoles because I can play them from my couch, with my friends that are present, on my pretty nice TV, with a controller. It's a nice experience.

I also like gaming on my PC. Must drive you crazy.
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>>323344787
indeed
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>>323324690
First and foremost they're retarded beacuse, why would you ever build a 400 bucks PC
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>>323345258
Greetings fellow babies...
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>all these 1080 resolutions

1200 all the way for me. Now and forever.
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What are the PC equivilents of these games?

What monster hunter dose PC have? Unique ip's like Gravity Rush? What souls game dose PC have? Modern jrps like persona? What about performers on the scale of RC, hell even tearaway?

What titles dose PC have to give these titles a run for their money?

PC has xcom 2.... and?
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HELLO I AM A PC AND I AM A MAC
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DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A PC
BUY MORE CONSOLES
BUY MORE CONSOLES NOWWWWWW
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>>323345000
Honest? I built it when I had more disposable income than brains. Wasted plenty of money, performance already seems to hava faded.

fx-9590
R9 295x2
32G RAM 1600Mhz
Crosshair V Formula-Z

>AMD
>why yes I regret my choices
>that's why I drive you to choose better
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>>323345423
>PC has no exclusives

Yeah try again stupid sonycuck, we have emulation.
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>>323345423

Why would you WILLINGLY humiliate yourself like that, anon?
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pc gaming is way too expensive. I just bought the 400 dollar ps4 and a 500 dollar laptop instead. That way i get a mediocre gaming machine along with a mediocre PC.
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>>323345550
>Xcom2 in with all that trash
Why are we hating on the popular thing because it's popular again?
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>>323345423
>3RD PERSON ACTION GAMES!!

Truly the genre of the plebiscite.
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>>323345493
>fx-9590
Disgusting.
To think you talk down on others.
Get outta here fgt.
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>>323344236
PC performance is still largely better than consoles even if not on max.
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Are the builds here actually legit?
I have no idea what PC parts are good, I just want something for $600ish that can play all the older games I have, and also run racing games on, since my laptop can't do anything at all
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>>323345423
We have mod community and support + emulation, PS4 hasn't got that.
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>>323345423
>What monster hunter dose PC have?
Uhhh....
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>>323345862
logical incremenents to get you started

its actually not that hard to understand the power of PC components what you know what you're looking for. It will take you about 15-20 minutes of research to understand PC specs
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>not just being poverty as fuck and playing shit games on a CRT sitting criss-cross on shitty hardwood

yall dont even know
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>>323326347
>Superior Multiplats
>Dark Souls
>FFXIII
>Batman Arkham Knight
>Fallout 4
>Assassins Creed Games
Tons more of these games had performance problems. Every recent release has seemed to get even worse with the porting. Even when you have enough power in your build to overcome this you still get marginally better performance for the amount of extra hardware needed. Just Cause 3 didn't even run on AMD cards at launch, and it was still spotty for both after being fixed.
>Literally nobody cares about PC anymore.
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quick post yfw you can run 4k 60fps on integrated graphics alone
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>>323346136
I don't think most people who'd be posting on /v/ nowadays would be old enough to have physical PS2 games around the house unless they had older siblings.
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>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper

not with paid online it isn't
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>>323346191
>>Fallout 4
Uwotm8?
Fallout 4 ran fine.
And Ass Creed games run like absolute shit on consoles.
In fact, Fallout 4 runs like absolute shit on consoles as well.
Also, the issue with Just Cause 3 was performance related, not playing related.
I'll never understand these arguments, they're basically saying "Y-YEA, THE GAMES RUN LIKE SHIT FOR US, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALMOST AS BAD FOR YOU, TAKE THAT PCFUCKS!"
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>>323345771
It's called tough love. I criticize so you take a second look at your rig. Drive you to buy better. Better than me.

I've wanted forever to get an i7, but new DirectX benchmarks and upcoming AMD Zen keep me weary and curious.
I'm a giant faggot who already spent too much for too little, so I'm patient before my next purchase.

Also, shit as the processor is, only the Witcher 3 kicked my rig's ass so far.
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>>323346340
Quake 3 doesn't count
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Idort here. The pc is the best and the cheapest. The only thing that it fucks up is a good chunk of games have god awful optimization or are just bad ports in general. A lot of devs don't care about PCfags for some reason. From recent memory, deus ex human revolution DC is fucking awful. Just awful. I had a few people message me while I'm playing it telling me the game is shit, while I'm agreeing yeah I fucked up by not researching whether it werks. A huge chunk of games you need to look up a fix by googling then messing with registry values or something of that nature. Squeenix PC ports are notoriously awful. Most games are fine though, it's not hard to fix, just very inconvenient. Another game that we all know that needs no mention is Batman Arkham Knight. Other things include annoying shit like Tales of Zestiria and FF13-2 just crashes on me when I plug in my external sound card because it only allows you to play in stereo.

But I think if I was on a tight budget and didn't give a shit about graphics or fps, the ps4 isn't a bad deal on black friday, if you don't care about playing online. Personally, I don't pay for ps plus.
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>>323346542
Considering I've already got a better CPU than you, I think I'm all set.
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>>323346340
but why?
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>>323345915
>Ask what software PC equivalent has to console ip's
>Seeing as a pc can do all in addition to community and mod support, steam sales

PC really is one continuous back peddle, we're talking about games here but like clockwork, you incessantly deflect the argument and feel the need to showcase the side features PC offers. You do it because when we put spotlight on PC software your platform has fucking nothing. You don't build a rig just to emulate last-last gens games that $30 household computers can easily achieve. The only thing your platform offers despite being completely fucking submerged in low-effort indie games, is multiplats. Multiplats are the type of side games that you're suposed to pad a library with, not be the fucking focal point of your platform while also being the only software that even takes advantage of your hardware.

>>323345757
So you're basically admitting there is no point in building a high end rig?
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>>323346391
What the fuck am I doing here
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>>323346652
GPU's pretty fucking shit, though m80.
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>>323346568
>A lot of devs don't care about PCfags for some reason.

Because PC gaming enthusiasts (people who would buy AAA games requiring good hardware, not people who play League and a survival MMO with their irl friends on a shit laptop) are a fucking tiny market. You guys just spend so much time in these nerd hellholes that you begin to think otherwise.
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>>323346738
At least 1/3 of this thread is probably legit high schoolers.

Go dig up your PS2 and play some of dat Ace Combat, anon. Stop refreshing this garbage collective twitter feed of misfit autistic teens.
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As someone who wants to get into PC gaming, I have a budget of £450, can I get a pre-built PC that will perform roughly on-par with the PS4?
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>>323334370

This paid 1k for my pc 6 years ago. Just popped out my vid card and put a new one in for 300. Cpus seldom need an upgrade if you're at 1200p
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>>323345423
>Asks where the MonHun on PC is
>While posting a picture of PS4 games
As an idort, does anyone else think /v/ would be better if all Sony fans were banned on sight?
I feel like the board's quality would improve tenfold.
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>>323324690
Ok.
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What kind of rig does it take to do dual screen on PC?
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>>323346940
You're right. Thank you.
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>>323324690
>)Claim steam sales , but disregard psn sales , free games on psn
You mean renting games and discounts on rented games?
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>>323346781
True, somewhat... Most of the people I add from /v/ play a lot of dota 2, tf2, csgo and not AAA titles. Kek.

Can't blame them, most PC gamers are poor if you look at steam hardware statistics. Not trying to make fun of them, it's just reality.
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>>323334370
>Bu buying a graphics card that costs more than the new console
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>>323347114
A PC with two outputs for monitors
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>>323346714
>>323346908

>Lovable nerd
>Smug douchebag

I vote PC
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>>323326619
nigga i never bought a PC game over 20 bucks and most of them are 5, Steam is ultra-cheap. even so you can pirate this shit out of vidya anyway on PC. So yeah.
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>>323346940
>garbage collective twitter feed of misfit autistic teens

this is the most beautiful summation of /v/ I've heard
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>>323344485
>what is fnaf
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>>323337982

Not only that but ps4 has a lower setting than low for npc count in witcher 3. 750 ti won't get those special downgrades
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>>323344504
nice one senpai.
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Was thinking about building a new computer since current is a toaster hunk of trash with a dying video card as wanting to know if I'd be able to run something like Arma 2 or 3 with a GTX 970 and an i5
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This is more expensive than a console, but I liked being able to preform various other tasks while being able to play vidya. I can run everything on max settings and frames will be at 144, or above 100 if the game is very graphics demanding, but I plan on getting my GPU on an SLI bridge soon so it can hopefully stay at 144. This is not expensive, like most posts that show going above 10k, if anything it was about $2k~$3k. And this is an over exaggerated build, but I made it for more things than just gaming. someday
http://puu sh/mpLuJ/d3d005c148.jpg
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>>323347518
You can find almost any PS3 game on ebay for $7 or less if it's over a year old. Don't need to wait for a sale either.

Not to mention blu-ray discs have a protective coating that protects from most mild-to-moderate scratches so they always play flawless unless someone to a pen to that shit or something. Gotta be choosier with used PS2/360 games though since they're naked DVDs.
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>>323347860
>+3 shipping
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>>323347860
>PS3 game
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>>323348045
for a grand total of $4.14 for one of the best shooters from last gen

i understand you didn't really pay attention to vidya until this decade however so you're forgiven for not really caring
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>>323347749

You're a retard if you buy now. Dx12 cards in 5 months with new architecture
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>>323347781
I'm looking to upgrade my computer piece by piece and I'm not sure if I should get a new graphics card first or just get a new mobo/cpu first.
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>>323348062
most pc games are ports anyway so why does it matter
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>>323348194
>Killzone 2
>one of the best shooters from last gen
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>>323348198
The performance increase itself will still be incremental as fuck except for the absolute top-end. We're still 3 years away from getting mainstream cards that can do 4k/60fps in new games.
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>>323348243
>PS3 game
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>>323348062
Give me one reason why it matters other than
>muh graffix
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>>323348274
It was. It was a fluke though, kinda like how Spiderman 2 was so good but the rest of the trilogy sucked and so did the reboot. Killzone's the exact same way.
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>>323348198
But I need to upgrade now because my current computer is dying and literally the only games I can run are STALKER SoC and CS:GO on low settings and 18fps
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>>323348198
>DON'T BUY NOW GUYS NEW STUFF IS COMING OUT REAL SOON I PROMISE!
>new stuff comes out
>LOL ONLY A RETARD WOULD BUY THIS NOW JUST WAIT FOR THE UPDATED VERSION
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>>323348274
>>323348415

It was mediocre and forgettable. Crysis 2 tier.
The only reason you guys liked it was because graphics+exclusive.
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>>323348415
>talking shit about PS3
>posting smug anime face

Behold ladies and gentlemen, some dumbass teenager who was a brony 2 years ago before discovering moeshit and TF2 hats.
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>>323348690
>M-MUH BOOGEYMAN
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>>323348690
>teenager who was a brony 2 years ago before discovering moeshit and TF2 hats

i thought i was the only one who noticed this is a thing. why did it explode all of a sudden?

if anyone remembers grafics he's a huge fucking "weeb" now
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>>323348242
That's still a pretty good setup, unless the gpu isn't giving you the performance you want that's the only thing really to upgrade
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Publishers are playing a silly game these days, they're taking advantage of consoles installbase and infrastructure and occasionally porting to PC to net a few more dollars but don't realize the fine line they're walking on.

Most publishers/developers pushing console IP's can't compete on the PC platform exclusively and they know this, they'll just get swamped by the competition and the many studios would go under immediately or be reduced to husks of their former selves making indie software for chips. Consoles need to exist for their financial security and thus software also needs to exists for console but they're they're getting careless now and PC is having a field day because of it.

If they continue porting to PC it'll become common sense to drop consoles all together and adopt a PC, it's that simple. However with that goes consoles market share and the very importance of it existing and when developers and publishers are forced to compete on PC platform, many won't even make the transition and just dissolve immediately, many that do will be faced with such fierce competition due to a much smaller and unstable installbase because half the console users won't migrate to PC or simply not quick enough and for them to remain profitable and stay afloat.

The partnerships and backing of first party games will also cease to exist so that means no Bloodborne, Horizon, Halo and what not. The industry would be reduced to that of mobile gaming within weeks. Even this is still an over-simplification on the importance of consoles and what console manufacturers do behind the scenes. For example Street Fighter wouldn't exist without Sony funding it and saving Capcom from near bankruptcy which also effects other industries and platforms like 3DS. Kojimas new studio also wouldn't have been possible without Sony if gaming was forced to go PC exclusively. Consoles support much more than just first party titles and AAA games.
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>>323347860
Killzone 2 gets so much shit but man. What a fucking game.
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While I am an avid PC user, consoles are actually cheaper if only used for games. If you do other shit, a PC is the way to go.

Not to mention a console killer is fucking stupid for $400. That's literally impossible unless you're buying old shit.
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>>323348830
>why did it explode all of a sudden?
Because MLP was literally K-on with horses
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>>323348901
Nonetheless, I think publishers believe that by under-handing the PC platform behind the curtains with broken vita ports somehow redeems this shitty practice but mark my words once you piss away infrastructure of console support it'll be gone for every and everybody looses, including those on PC. An industry plagued by indies and AAA because we denied the importance of middle men, publishers and console manufactures is a bad industry.

Games are becoming more expensive to develop for and some games may very well need a bigger audience to break even this gen but it's a double sided coin. I honestly think this is the end of console gaming and will be the very last generation. Many have permanently left for mobile gaming, nobody understands why consoles are vitally important for both AAA multiplatform software, b-level developers and in general and will gladly but unknowing participate in the destruction of the industry if only to save a few dollars on steam, hell PC gaming is taking off like crazy now. It's already too late and there is nothing anybody can do.
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Why waste your money on a new PC when you can have a new gaming experience altogether? Make the ULTIMATE UPGRADE to CONSOLE at Gamestop and tell them Anonymous sent you for a 10% discount.
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>>323348890
Okay. GPU is kind of falling behind now. I'll probably just get a new GPU then. I'll look into overclocking my CPU and maybe getting new ram as well.
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>>323348242

If possible, try and get the GPU and Mobo together, so at least you can ensure they're compatible upon arrival and not have to worry about the new Mobo working with the old GPU, or the old Mobo working with the new GPU.

CPU's fine, I don't see any point in upgrading that.
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>>323348901
>If they continue porting to PC it'll become common sense to drop consoles all together and adopt a PC

I think this is where your analysis falls flat. A huge, huge majority of games are already available on PC, to a level unthinkable in the PS2 days and prior. If multiplat availability was going to drive significant amounts of people to PC to the point of cannibalizing console sales, it definitely would've happened by now, especially considering the free online.

Instead, the PS4 is selling so much that even Sony struggles to explain it. Normies don't care about 60fps and don't mind paying for online and don't want to deal with building a PC, that's that.
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>>323324690
>but console gaming is cheaper

Retards actually believe this.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZZscJx

someone posted this earlier, is this build actually decent?
I don't know anything about PC parts
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>>323349085
FUCKING SOLD!!!!
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>>323349106
Ram would be pointless if you just game, but definitely overclock your cpu, you paid extra for that
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>>323348578

Then get a 390 if you must at least it will support dx12 better once nvidia drops the 900 series
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>>323349327
It's a decent build for $600, but you won't be maxing games out at 60 FPS.
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>>323349327
It's acceptable for somewhat better than console-tier gaming. Have fun with Linux/Steam OS though.
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>>323346959
No.
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>>323332408
my old i3 2100 and evga gtx 660 sc ran witcher 3 on high settings at above 30fps (i don't remember if it was 1080p or if it was on my old 1440x900 monitor though).

it can be done if you know what you're doing. you can do a lot more with a PC as well than just muh gaems. over all, it has more utility and can provide a better gaming experience.

aside from all i just said, i don't know why anyone fucking argues anymore. a light gaming pc, a ps4, or an xbone are all relatively affordable to anyone who isn't living on NEETbucks or in their parents' basement. quit fucking fighting like children and just play the games you want to play on your preferred platform.
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>>323348901
Somebody is going to get on this, fuck the entire system up and make a shitload of money (i hope its Steam). While the rest of the incompetent retards employ people to keep making meme threads.
Evolve or die.
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>>323349596
He can just pirate Windows like everyone else.
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>>323324690
>free games on psn
>free games
lmao wow
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>>323324690
The biggest selling-point on PC's over consoles is near-industry-wide backwards-compatibility through emulation.
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>>323349327
Get a 950 instead of a 760
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>>323349327
pay an extra $100 and get an 8320, an r9 380, and ignore the wireless card and go wired for internet to save $20.

also, why 2x4gb instead of 2x8gb? it's like $30-40 more.
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>>323346959
Sorry poorfags don't "get into PC gaming"

lol retard
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>>323349327
My OG build as similar but had an 8320 and a 280x and was only like 50$ more at the time.
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>>323337428
it's because of screen tearing, it makes a giant ass line run across your screen like a nigger on pcp.
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Poorfags are killing PC gaming
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>>323326347
New consoles multi task just fine though other than that you made a lot of good points.

The only reason to get any console is because you want to play an exclusive or because you have friends with the system and have a bit of cash to spray on something you enjoy.

Can't believe I just contributed to such a crap thread.
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>>323327864
Steam goes down to 75% on a regular basis. Steam isn't even necessary. G2play.net got me Black Ops 3 for $40
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>People actually think a toaster tier $450~ can compete

Face it. If you want to get into PC gaming, be prepared to spend at MINIMUM $700 for a decent machine if you want 1080p 60fps. For most people, a PC is just too expensive, and has too many risks.
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>>323346959
yeah, but I would not reconend it, since the ps4 is a poor benchmark to begin with
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>>323349085
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>>323349661

Hm I plan on getting consoles when cracked to get the games free

I tend to buy all my games on pc since I consider it my archive where I can play games at their fullest whether it be resolution, better visuals or frames. Some old games even get complete remakes

In a few years my consoles will be purged by sony and ms and on to the next one anyways. Plus I don't enjoy paying to play my old games on a new system or for remasters

Though for niche console games I make exceptions.
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>>323349845
Sure, he can just pirate the system while he as it too.
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>>323340524
god damn it, that almost gave me a stroke
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>>323350235
why do people buy the ps4 then?

there are several budget pc builds that beat the ps4
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>>323350226
Black ops 3 was about that for physical copies on both consoles just this month though.
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>>323349668
It's already easy to fuck up the steam economy at least as far as the community market goes. Last night some guy said said that the Mehndi skin for the P250 in CS:GO was made with stolen artwork and people frantically bought 10-20 copies of the skin thinking it would get pulled from the market forever and that they could sell the Mehndi skins later for a massive profit and of course the skin didn't use stolen artwork meaning it wouldn't be getting pulled from the market and apparently the whole thing was a ruse started by someone on reddit.
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>>323348368
AMD already demoed a mobile card that performs like a desktop 950 but is only half the die size, so at least AMD isn't just focusing on the high end. They will probably release the midrange before the high end.
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>>323324690
>starcraft
>free
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>>323345258
this is the most retarded shit i've ever seen
2.8k for monitors
1.2k for optical drives
2 os
0.5k speakers
soundcard
4 hdds

exclujding those, let's calculate the price
6520$
11,595-6520=5075$
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>>323350451
It was also $30 on G2A.
In fact, I think it still is.
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>>323332126

On what res? I have your card and I get around 30 in 4k and 80+ in HD.
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>>323346191
>>Assassins Creed Games
they actually fixed unity which was really surprising
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>>323350487
>AMD already demoed a mobile card that performs like a desktop 950
Really?
Where?
Still waiting on them to release that "PS4-tier APU" they were hyping up in 2013.
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>>323331934
>only i5
>only 4.2ghz
>only 16gb of ram
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>>323345423
nier 2 isnt exclusive and are you really including vita ports?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-lists-20-ps4-exclusives-set-for-2016-release/1100-6433490/
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>>323350235
>I'm too poor for a PC
Ok we know just STFU already and accept you'll never be master race pleb
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>>323345550
that image has to be bait
aside from xcom most of these games look like trash. I am not sure why anybody would include these over the other exclusives that look much more promising
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>>323324690
>, free games on psn
if you pay for something it is by definition not free you idiot
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>>323324690
>free games on psn

>Free after paying for them
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>>323351160
>needing more than 8GB of RAM
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>>323351271
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>>323350235
stupid frogposter that image invalidates everything you just said
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>>323350930
sounds like you could use a new job or some life changes anon
or be a console peasant until the day you die
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>>323351434
>>323351394
they are free, you are paying for online subscription, games are free
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>>323346959
depends do you have a toaster that you can modify if so you can
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>>323324690
We live in the 21st century and a computer is essentially a necessity for modern life. PC gaming means paying for both a computer and a gaming system at the same time. What this means is that some of your comparisons are ridiculous, for instance:

>Disregard fact consoles