>>323130030 That's because most people are retarded and can't put together a fucking table from IKEA, let alone a computer. Many people are completely unable to follow instructions and are unwilling to learn anything new as soon as they're out of high school.
>>323129810 This. What else is a "normal person" going to do with a computer with the specs to run a Rift that they couldn't already do on their laptop? If the bundle is $1500, that ostensibly means the Rift costs $1500 to 99% of the population.
>599 US DOLLARS >doesn't include the controllers, which will likely be another $300+ >need a brand new rig/$900 in upgrades to actually utilize it LITERALLY blunder of the millennium. And I fucking couldn't be happier since Zuckerbergstein bought it out.
>>323130030 I never understood this. People act like you're a wizard for building your own computer but treat car mechanics like they are fucking janitors. I can barely fucking check my fluids in my car and I have respect for people who are mechanically inclined
>>323130668 Most of /v/ sadly. Looking through the 3DS hacking threads the past 2 days has been hilarious. Everything you need to do is there in retard language in guides and people are still fucking it up and asking dumb questions that is already answered in the guides.
>>323131014 I got one of the free Star Wars Cardboards from Google and it was actually much cooler than I thought. What the fuck is the difference between the Gear and the Cardboard though, other than one isn't made out of cardboard?
>>323131906 Look man, I understand we all need to be contrarian here and pretend everyone is a NEET, but how in the fuck do you not own a phone in 2016? That's like not owning a computer or having never worn pants.
I remember a few years ago I started a thread on /v/ to let people netplay Capcom vs SNK 2, I put very clearly in the OP "IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE THIS ONE SETTING, YOU WILL GET THIS EXTREMELY SPECIFIC ERROR, FOLLOW EXACTLY ONE STEP NOT TO GET THIS ERROR", and half the fucking thread was people bitching about that error
>>323131305 I have a few free cardboards, latest being the Star Wars one from Google as well. My lenses on the Star Wars one have either chips or shit stuck to the surface. It was free, but can see black specs all over the place.
>>323132959 You don't even need to bring up examples that old anon. Even in this past week when it came to the 3DS downgrade happening. All those fucking bricks because people couldn't follow instructions.
HTC already has their own manufacturing setup, on top of the fact it's not all custom made shit. The controllers for either Rift and Vive won't be expensive. I need to go finda a source but I thought I remember them saying Lighthouse wasn't actually expensive.
>>323128639 These bundles likely won't go 50% off. But unlike with consoles, this happens with PCs multiple times a year.
So my advice. Be patient and scour after deals for a period of time of around at least 8~ or so months give or take. When you find a really good(s) deal of around 40-60% off. Be it on individual components or pre-built computers(that you can fix where needed with separate components that you also get when on sale).
And you spend approximately $500 give or take. The final price is obviously heavily reliant on what sales you managed to catch over the course of the year. But the above should have a good chance of landing you with hardware that will enable you to play games at the highest settings, but more importantly last for approximately two console generations while still having potential modification uses even after having ultimately become dated.
I guess this rant really doesn't have much to do with VR. But if there is one thing I have learned from /v/ it's that /v/ really has no idea of how to properly buy a computer. Now I love consoles myself and have mosty of them in addition to my PCs. But seriously, learn how to acquire PCs and PC hardware. The market doesn't behave like the console market. So learn.
>>323136412 Look you fucking dewwb, let me inlighten you on some fun facts of life ok? People have these things called.... colloquial sayings, maybe if you left that dumpster you call a home and actually fuck some chicks(or guys because obviously your a faggot) maybe we can stay on topic.
>>323129929 Daily reminder that 2buck chuck won an international wine tasting competition against the fanciest most expensive wine out there. Winos are faggots who don't even know what makes a "good wine"
Don't waste your money on inflated price tags with preinstalled bloatware and budget parts. These builds always skimp out somewhere and mark up the price in favor of showing off with unnecessary brandwanking and a gay case with faggotty LEDs'
Literally just buy a 970 and put it in your moms desktop
>letting staff freely converse with customers This is such a bad idea, no respectable company allows people to do this, why do video games developers get away with this?
Seriously it's like the first fucking rule don't discuss the business on social media because you will inevitably get one employee who is racist or starts a fight with a customer or whatever who gives you a PR problem
Yet no vidya companies seem to have this rule, why?
>>323130668 Do people still set up RAIDs? I've never considered one since hard disks started coming out in 1 TB, but now that I think about it I'm wondering if people are doing it with SSD's or something.
I just built a PC that was i5 4690 / 8GB RAM / 500W / 1TB HDD / cheapest case on Amazon & my old graphics card for free.
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011EDFLNW Can anyone explain how this prebuilt has the same or better parts plus an SD reader and Windows, for cheaper than I could have built it? How the hell are they making money?
>Can anyone explain how this prebuilt has the same or better parts plus an SD reader and Windows, for cheaper than I could have built it? How the hell are they making money? because parts bought in bulk are cheaper than bought individually, and businesses can purchase at a cost lower than retail
Bought a pre-built PC on sale for like 800 bucks, regularly 1099 or something. Don't even care. Too nervewracking to build together myself and now I have a good PC on which I can study about parts and shit.
>>323145368 >It defeats the entire point of building PCs myself, though. cost isn't everything was it fun building it? did you learn anything? did you get a sense of accomplishment and personal satisfaction?
Palmer Luckey is young and stupid when it comes to business and PR and the price of the Rift has really highlighted his inexperience.
First of all he shot himself in the foot many months ago as soon as he started giving ballpark figures for the cost of the Rift. Ballpark of $350, great! $400, maybe $500 at an absolute max. But $600? Fuck off, that's approaching double your ballpark figure.
Luckey's post on his AMA tried to explain this fuck up. He had some dumb bullshit about how he was contrasting $350 with $1500 because the $1500 number was stuck in his mind because apparently media outlets were running stories saying the Rift costs $1500. I don't remember any site doing this, from what I recall most sites were fine in reporting that Luckey had stated that a $1500 PC is recommended for Rift users. Seems like total bullshit to me and I don't know why people are falling for his lies.
Just remember this guy had a neat idea, had his project explode into something he would have never expected where he's gotten his hand on some serious cash. He's just excited as fuck with the sense of importance he has now. Let him dig his own grave. A lot of us knew that as soon as Facebook got involved this thing was a lost cause.
This thing is fucking years off from having any chance of making it big. $600 is already a lot to ask for, but on top of that users need $1500 PCs? Does Palmer Luckey realize how shit the average PC is?
It's kinda strange, somehow that extra $100 really pushed me over the edge to not buy it. I would've been fine at $500, really, and relative to everyone else my shipping and taxes only bring it up to ~$680. But it's kinda weird, for years I was prepared to pay $350 or so plus the price of a new GPU (putting off the upgrade because I wanted to buy something at the last moment, so I could get my money's worth) and then I read all those interviews where he said the ballpark was off and I was actually willing to get it for $500 without much hesitation.
Something about that last $100 and the way he's acting on Twitter really puts me off, though. I try to rationalize it with "it's just $100 more, a fraction of what you were gonna spend anyway", but that shit isn't flying. I got my preorder in, and I know I'm not gonna not buy an HMD, but I'm probably gonna cancel the Rift, and only have it preordered on the off chance that the Vive starts catching fire on people's heads or some crazy shit.
>>323149689 Man just wait for a couple months after release date. They'll release a version without all that extra shit bundled in and you can probably get it for that 500 dollary doos. Alternatively wait and see how the competition handles their tech and jump ship if necessary.
>>323150124 My preorder ships in May (I think?) which was somewhat intentional, because it'll let me see what happens with people who get theirs earlier and with all the Vive stuff. I was actually able to preorder as soon as they went up, I just decided not to. I'm like 99% sure that I'm gonna cancel, though, because even if the Vive is a couple hundred more, it would be worth it for the included controllers, plus the AR stuff is kinda neat.
I was actually planning to sell the controller to recoup some of the cost (and because I already have a wired 360 pad, and Windows 7), and I really don't mind the headphones, but I realize I'm in a minority on that front.
In the end, buying one wouldn't be the end of the world for me, not because I'm super affluent, but just because I'd be willing to take a little loss on reselling if I wasn't satisfied.
>>323150470 It is not, it is absolutely not. Not because I'm impatient but just because I've already been holding back this long. Every time a DK came out I seriously considered purchasing one, and the only thing that kept me from doing so was the thought that "the CV will be a lot better, and for a similar price, you would be wasting your money you dumbass". Even without a huge selection of software I would've had a lot of fun just fucking around with it and making stuff (not for actual deving, more like a new hardware toy). I somewhat regret not buying a DK, to be honest, because I imagine I would've had a lot of fun.
But yeah, at this point I consider any extra I have to pay a premium for getting it early, and honestly I'm fine with it, I just don't want to end up with an expensive brick relative to the competition, so I guess I'll wait.
>>323130643 actually putting everything together is fairly easy,having a panic attack when it doesnt boot is fucking awful considering so many things could've unknowingly fucked up and some cant even be trouble shooted
>>323152409 Ehhhh, I dunno about that, there are a good chunk of them that save up to get Macs because of the "luxury" appeal and whatever, I'd say the primary barrier of entry for them is just the price, which is ironically the only reason they would want one.
I mean, I'm sure if you asked a normalfag whether they'd prefer a Windows laptop or a Macbook, they'd probably go for the latter. People who choose Windows usually have pretty specific reasons, the primary one being "I want to play games", I imagine.
So, yeah, you're right that they usually have shitty laptops or netbooks or whatever the fuck they're calling them, but I'm sure most would go for a Mac if they could.
Why is it so god damn much? Not only Oculus, but from the looks of it, it seems other VR sets will be in that range.
Idea seemed cool to me, I've never tried it. I was hoping to try one at a kiosk somewhere when they were out and if i liked it, I would buy one. I legitimately estimated they'd be around $200
I don't think a price drop will be a thing either. If it actually gets popular, it'll probably be similar to damn phones, constantly releasing newer versions, so what you have is outdated shit, and every time a new game comes out, your GPU won't be able to handle both, but the new version would certainly be optimized.
>price announced >599 >instant vietnamlike flashbacks to FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS >FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS >FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS >GENJI 2 IS AN ASHUN GAME >ONE MIRRION TROOPS >WOW >I HEARD THE GRAPHICS ON IT WAS CRAZY >IM GONNA BEAT YOU, AND ITS GONNA HURT BECAUSE...I DON'T KNOW they really did pick the absolute worst fucking price. Maybe il buy one when it's half the asking price
>>323152828 In the case of the CV1, it's the custom parts. Some anons argue that the headphones and Xbone controller add something significant to the price, but I actually believe Palmer on them being inconsequential.
Ultimately, the devkits were cheaper because they were made from off the shelf components (the DK2 literally has the screen from a Note 3 in it, digitizer and all). I think Oculus got a little carried away with trying to provide "the best experience", because their future relies entirely on VR being seen as something other than a gimmick. Damned if they do damned if they don't, kinda. The price is still too damn high, though.
By all estimates PSVR could be expensive because they have to include the extra hardware for timewarping, and nobody really knows where the Vive is gonna land, but they really have a good chance to pull the rug out from under Oculus if their price is right.
Ran out of room for the last point, but phones from 2 years ago are really affordable.
>>323143841 It's been a recent problem with film creators lately too. Some people just don't seem to understand the concept of public relations, or the significant voice things like twitter give some people.
>>323154785 His age shouldn't give him a pass. I am younger than him and I immediately saw, without any external feedback, that his Twitter responses were a potential problem, and I guarantee you that there are plenty of people his age or younger on here that feel the same way. In the past he has been good with interviews and whatnot, but it seems like that was only because there wasn't that much criticism/pressure at the time. The backlash put him in a defensive posture and the best thing to do in that situation is shut up and think.
>>323155371 Oculus really wanted to pull out all the stops for this, which meant no compromises. They could've gone with already existing smartphone screens (like they did with the DKs), but decided that they wanted the CV to be better, so everything is custom. Whether it is worth it or not is to be seen, since the Vive is going to be using less custom components, which will give us a good comparison.
That is if Palmer is to be believed, of course.
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