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Im playing this for the first time whats special about it v
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It kinda reminds me of zelda
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It's fun
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it's comfy
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>>323068568
Feels comfy I haven't gotten use escorting the girl yet but besides that it seems alright I'm attempting to beat this tonight how long is it
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cool OP, I'm playing shadow of the colossus for the first time myself, did you get the HD collection?

it's a very short and easy game but it's so cool that I don't mind. I am hoping there turn out to be more colossus's after this final one though because this will have turned out to be just over six hours long
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>>323068789
3-4 in average. 6 if you're retarded.
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>>323070425
Beat SotC a few weeks ago, shit was intense.
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>>323070425
I did get the hd collection sadly I Spoiled some of SoC for myself a long time ago hopefully that doesn't kill the experience to much
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>>323068445
desu i never understood why people like it that much.
SotC seemed way waaay bettee, While ico felt kinda clunky and not very fun to play.
but then again protecting ashley was the worst part of RE4 and Ico is that taken to the extreme
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>>323074014
it's very pretty and the castle design is super cool
the animations make the characters seem very realistic and makes you care about the girl
the story is simple and memorable
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>>323071573
>I Spoiled some of SoC for myself
Like, did you accidentally read up on how to beat certain colossi or something?
The game is ONLY about figuring out how to kill them. The bits and pieces of story really aren't all that important if they got spoiled.
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It's just got a nice mood to it, it's very well crafted. It's not exactly exciting, but there's a lot to appreciate about the design.
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I like to think of it as the unseen part of the princess rescue story. Normally, in things like Mario, you save the princess and roll credits. Instead, you're in the castle, and get the princess within 3 minutes, then you have to fight your way out against immense odds.
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It's a boring ass platformer only loved by lonely hearts who get to live out their white knight fantasies with a stand-in waifu.

Shadow of the Collosus is basically the same premise with marginally more gameplay. If they were one game they might have as much content as a rushed to production indie title.

Maybe that's the reason their new game isn't out yet. Team Ico realized no one cares about a giant dog beast if they can't sublimate their >tfw when no gf
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>>323068445
>please tell me what to think /v/
Play the game and fuck off.
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>>323076543

Nice projections, friendo
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>>323068445

I never minded the American cover too much, but it really is astounding uninspired the thing was compared to the one Ueda would make shortly after.
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Can't wait to see how the level design works out in TLG. I loved how the castle had a similar layout to things you in the Souls games, where locations are visible from different areas and align perfectly instead of just being all magically jammed within some small dimension
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>>323070538
I finished it in 10 hours.
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>>323079489

What'd you get stuck on? The game is quite short, so it's hard to imagine it taking all that long even for first timers
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>>323079328
>I loved how the castle had a similar layout to things you in the Souls games
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>>323079793
>Ha ha, I've got him now! He made a typo on an anonymous malaysian waterpainting board and thought he could get away with it, now his whole family will be ashamed of his mistake!
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>>323079793

Oh no. A typo. Whatever shall I do? Oh dear. Oh my.
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It's paintamatic.
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Anybody ever read the book? What did you think of it?

Personally, I felt it was ok, but felt like it was fleshing out things too much to the point it might as well has been an entirely unrelated story with the amount of new characters and changes in the plot.
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>>323068445
It simulates holding hands. Something autists never have the courage to do. That's probably why so many fucking weirdos like this shit game.
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>>323082807
>>323076543

>le friendless virgin meme
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>>323068445
Not the US cover art, that's for sure.
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>>323083212

It's not like you play a game for its cover art
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>>323083740
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>>323084618

Well you don't.
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>A Japanese made character that actually looks Asian
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>>323082616
Eh, it's ok. It is a story that doesn't need to be told but if for whatever reason you're craving more of Ico I don't see why not.
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>>323088006

Had I not a considerably better fan novelization, I'd have probably enjoyed the book a bit better. But as it stands, it did feel a bit overhyped by the many people who kept bringing up its existence in the early days when even getting rare artwork for the game was a trialing ordeal
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>>323079328
Yeah, I wasn't surprised at all to see that Ico was what got Miyazaki back into games.
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>>323090470

He had left gaming before?
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>>323091393
>Miyazaki describes himself as a difficult child. “Unlike most kids in Japan, I didn’t have a dream,” he says. “I wasn’t ambitious.” He eventually found himself aimlessly pursuing a degree in social science at the well-respected Keio University. As he approached graduation, he considered applying to a game development studio, but drifted into a job at the US IT company Oracle Corporation.

>Several years later, he started thinking about video games again. He met up with some former college friends who suggested new titles to play. One was Ico, a mystical fairytale in which players assume the role of a boy who must lead a waif-like girl by the hand along a castle’s craggy ramparts, pursued by their ghoulish captors. “That game awoke me to the possibilities of the medium,” says Miyazaki. “I wanted to make one myself.”

>But Miyazaki had a problem: at 29, he was too old to apply for graduate positions and too inexperienced for anything else. “Not a lot of places would take me,” he says. “From Software was one of the few.” Ema Kodaka, who edits Miyazaki’s scripts, believes this career change, which resulted in a considerable drop in pay, might be why he is held in such regard by his staff. “He is a unique talent,” she says. “In Japan, even today, people usually join a company as a graduate and stay for life. For Miyazaki to change career and, within 10 years, become company president – that’s unprecedented in Japan. It’s inspiring.”
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A villain that did nothing wrong.
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>>323068445
Nothing. It's literally escort: the game. Enjoy hitting black spirits with a 2x4 until you don't want to finish it.
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>>323091868

She literally made a child just to be her proxy and treated her like an animal. That's pretty wrong.
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>>323091868

>Killing innocent shotas to make yourself immortal
>Not wrong
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>>323083212
If you like the PAL art, check out Giorgio di Chirico - his style massively influenced it
http://www.moma.org/collection/artists/1106
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>>323092091
>yfw you realized the queen is literally Mono from SoC
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Damn The Last Guardian better not suck. Any speculation? I figure they're hunting down the griffins because they believe (and may be right due to some aspects of their design) they contain fragments of dormin (much less than those in the colossi), and part of the purge includes people (as the kid gets caught up, and dormin clearly passed on to Ico as seen in the horns). The kid uses the griffin to bail from jail and the two try to escape, in the process we see that though the griffin has some dormin in it it's not inherently evil (so the theme of the sins of the father passing down might be subverted, which seems to be part of the theme in Ico, albeit modified).

The kid or griffin dying seems like a pretty cliche direction to go, and based on prior games the endings are bittersweet and loss manifests itself in pretty surreal ways (Yorda turning into a creature like her mother, maybe living in an afterlife, Wander becoming a baby) so maybe the two return to the villiage only to be exiled by their own.
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>>323092764

MIGHT be. Personally, I don't think so since a lot of things wouldn't add up. But hey, game is vague, so to each their own with the theories
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>>323092764

I was thinking that

Dormin even loses the queen sounding side of his voice when gets revived.
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>>323093134

I'm more privy to the idea that it wont' be hugely related to SotC or Ico. Like how those two games only have a minor, though tangible link, I like to imagine TLG will wind up being inconsequential to either stories, if it's even meant to be the same world at all.

One fun idea I had, would be for the fortress/kingdom being what the castle in Ico originally looked like before whatever happens in the game destroyed all but what you see in Ico.
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>>323079489
took me about the same

>>323079710
i got stuck on the part where theres a hole you keep dropping through...i can't really remember but yorda wouldn't follow and i had to open a different door or something in the end.

Literally took 3 hours of trial and error to get past it and felt stupid afterwards.
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>>323093694
That's definitely a possibility. I'm kinda hoping it'll be a sequel to Ico in order to wrap up the story in some way, but the idea that it's the castle pre-destruction might hold up, considering both locations seem to serve as a prison of sorts.

If there are still Emerald Idols (I forgot what they're called, the ones Yorda opens) in the prison, then that'll lend itself to establishing the game as a prequel to Ico
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>>323094195

The garden? Because there is that little waterway you have to both be in, and then get Yorda to climb out of so she's with you on the topside. Really, only problem with that part was how the shadows could respawn and try to nab her while you're opening the gate to let her in.

Didn't help her AI was incomplete in the original US release
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>>323070538
>tfw getting the Castle Guide trophy
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>>323094568

Not really much to followup with in Ico's case, outside of what Yorda and he do after escaping the castle. Even then, many debate if they ever did meet up for real given the divide on the post-credits sequence and if it were real or not
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>>323094624
yeah that's it

>her AI was incomplete in the original US release
explain? because that would help me understand why I originally thought she was blind
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>>323068445
A slow start but one of the best third acts in video games, stick with it

>it gets good after [x] hours

no seriously it does
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>>323094882

Sony pushed the game out the door a little bit early, for the fall market or whatever since the US release like early fall of 01. Meanwhile, Japan didn't get until early December, a good 3 months later. For that, and the PAL release, the game saw a number of improvements. Chief among them being Yorda not wandering off just after letting go of her hand, as well as her being helpful in puzzles by either looking at something you had to interact with to outright pointing at them
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>>323091868
the final boss was great. pretty simple gameplay wise but still a "puzzle" of sorts
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>>323071573
i watched a let's play of it about 1 year and a half before i got it and it didn't ruin it for me but thankfully i forgot just about everything in the lets play
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>>323095750

Could have been a bit more involved, personally speaking. But I liked how you had to play with the statues to avoid her attacks when the sword was knocked away
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>>323079328
this
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>>323082616
do you know where i can download it?
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It's a great game.
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>>323082616
is the book complety different of something?
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>>323085508
i play some games because of the cover art
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>>323091712
and here I was feeling sorry for myself for not accomplishing anything at 24. God bless you Miyazaki, fucking champion
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>>323090470
Miyazaki likes Ico?
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>yfw the fight with the ghost Icos
Ico ramped up surprisingly near the end
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>>323068568
>>323068789
Comfy? I'm also playing through it now and it's inspired a pretty constant sensation of tension and unease in me.
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>>323096883

Probably on some digital book service. As for something like a PDF of it, can't say I know.

>>323097097

Way different. There's even an origin for the Horned statue on the bridge and a whole new motivation for the queen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orAFndiwlng

A beautiful game
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>>323091712
Ico Shadow of The Colossus And Dark Souls are my favorite games
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>>323082616
Is that what tells you that The Queen is Wander's girlfriend
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>>323097227

Kind of shallow to then turn down a game if the artwork is somewhat bad
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>>323097351
see
>>323091712
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>>323097351
Read >>323091712
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>>323092764
how?
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>>323097802

No, nothing ever says or implies that anywhere.

Though the Queen is in cahoots with a dark god that she needs Yorda as a sacrifice to bring darkness across the world
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>>323093134
>Yorda turning into a creature like her mother, maybe living in an afterlife
What? They lived happily ever after on that beach.
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>>323068445
>adventures in babysitting the game
enjoy
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>>323098143

A common theory is that Mono received a portion of the Dormin's power/soul. Of course, the Dormin are implied to be many, like legion many, not just two beings
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>>323092764
I didn't buy this until someone pointed out how the female half of Dormin's voice gradually fades over the course of the game, while "Mono" gets stronger and stronger. By the end, Dormin's voice is 100% male and Mono coincidentally comes back to life, grabs the horned kid, and fucks off. It was literally all according to keikaku. Dormin funneled some of its essence into Mono and her new power source is the horned kids she herself is responsible for creating.

it's like pottery
it rines

and also makes this entire franchise a degree more depressing
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>>323098301

Even without that theory, it's still pretty depressing since Wander might not be himself anymore. Sure, a baby takes his place in the pool, but how do we know it's still him? Because having your mind while stuck as a babe is pretty scary.
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>>323093134
What happend at the end of Ico was it a dream or did they both survive?
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>There will never be a comfy Lost In Blue type game with Ico and Yorda
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>>323093449
Dormin and the Queen are different beings
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>>323098592
Yes
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Yorda is a qt and awakened me to many of my fetishes.
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>>323097767

Start listening around 30 seconds in your video and compare it to this:
https://youtu.be/R0aoqbDNKaA?t=29s
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>>323097227
Speaking of it's very disappointing that Shadow's cover wasn't art like Ico's
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>>323098687

How do you know that?
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>>323098552
I'm pretty sure he just reverted straight back to a baby with horns. I doubt it's another person, not that it would matter because he lost all of his memories and turned into a baby.
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>>323094802
i think it was real
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Anyone else still can't quite believe TLG is actually happening?
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>>323098592

It's up to interpretation. Some say it's real. Some say it's a dream. Some even say it's the afterlife and BOTH are dead.

>>323098702

Of all the various female characters in game and anime, I can't find myself sexually attracted to Yorda. At least not in the "I need upskirts of her" kind of way
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>>323068445
These days? Not much. It was one of the forerunners of the entire artsy action/platformer game, only it was actually a good game while at it. But I can understand that given today's oversaturated market in that genre it doesn't look like anything special though.
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>>323098915

Losing your memories and turning into a baby is pretty much the same as becoming a whole other person.

>>323098861

Well, how do you know they have to be the same?
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Ico is the most relieved I've ever been playing a game. The whole game is in this desolate and decaying castle and you're being chased by shadow creatures. There's nothing to do there and the queen is trying to kill you and keep Yorda locked up. You even get a glimpse of the bridge leading out to freedom. In many places in the game you can look over the chasm and see the forest which represents freedom and possibility. Even when you leave the castle you still have to go back for Yorda and it doesn't look like you make it out but in the end you do (possibly). When I was on that beach I was very sad but when I saw Yorda I was ecstatic. Freedom!
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Do you think TLG will tie back into the other two games? There was obvious continuity between them even if you don't buy any Dormin/Mono body possession theories.
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>>323099134
>Well, how do you know they have to be the same?

I don't, it's just a theory.

Calm down, man.
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>>323099052

It is quite sad how everyone is aping Ico and/or Shadow of the Colossus and failing to realize that there was more to them than just vague, artsy tones. Hell, even Miyazaki realized this with the Souls games given how he always wanted completing his games to feel like an accomplishment.
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>>323068445
Mary Sue graphics kinda ruin it.
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>>323099134
>Losing your memories and turning into a baby is pretty much the same as becoming a whole other person.
I know, which is why I said so but it's still the same human. His experiences are different growing up so he is technically a different person.

I wonder what Ico's life was like as a child. Was he in the village before the village elder decided to take him to the castle? Was he just wandering? What happened to Mono? Questions.
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>>323098301
well that kinda ruined Shadow of the Colossus for me i don't believe that
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>>323099549
Not to come across as a weeb, but Japanese devs clearly didn't get too caught up in the games-r-art fad and never forgot to actually make their games fun. The artsy side of all those games never felt like it was detracting from the game itself by shining way too large a spotlight on themselves.
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>>323099438
I think and hope so. As soon as we see what the enemies look like it will probably become apparent when it's set.
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>>323099485

I am calm.
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>>323098692
yes to what?
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>>323099608

Hard to say. The manual for the original PS2 game seemed to sound like Ico had a bit of a shit life growing up, since he was blamed for everything.

The book at least implies he was somewhat respected, but only because the villagers didn't want to be petrified if they got uppity and killed him themselves.
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>>323098993
I guess I shouldn't say fetish, it's more like that I like on girls.
Short hair, bare feet I'm not a footfag, I swear, see-through white dresses, and knife-ears.
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>>323099872

We have seen then, the armors. Though whether they're tied to the queen or something unrelated, it's hard to say.

It is pretty cool how they're based on the original PS1 Ico enemy concepts.
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>>323098861
they just seem different
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>>323098915
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are depressing
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>>323098915
Losing all of your memories is just awful it's one of my biggest fears
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>>323100431

Ico's a little more upbeat, if only because the conclusion is still more hopeful than SotC, which has an uncertain feel since the lands are now entirely cut off from the rest of the world (at least until Mono and Wander can build a raft), and how life there may be uncertain now that the curse keeping it in a perpetual state is gone
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>>323100036
exactly
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>>323098993
I prefer it being real or the afterlife i hate to think it's a dream
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>>323100583

Guess you're not much for games that have amnesia as the big focus then, huh?
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>>323098702
what kind?
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>>323100662
>Ico's a little more upbeat, if only because the conclusion is still more hopeful than SotC

If it's not all a dream
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>>323096883
You can get it off amazon if you're a paying guy,but it shouldn't be that hard to find using less reputable sources.

>>323098592
Like others have said, it is implied Yorda stays behind and dies. Ico dies at sea or something, or from the blood loss/infection the broken horns are likely to cause, though some refute it considering Yorda seems to have inherited the powers from her mother upon her mum's death, no reason why couldn't have moved herself to Ico. Also, countering Ico's injuries many cite he was tougher than most due to the curse, and may have survived as a result.

Regardless, I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless, I saw the literal end as a bittersweet "at least we're together" ending.

>>323098702
? Like hand holding and being easily startled? Or being chased by black creatures ?
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>>323100331

Dormin is multiple beings, it refers to itself as "We"
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>>323100887

Eh, even a dream would still a bit more uplifting if only because it means Ico managed to do something in his life that wasn't expected of him.

Now, whether people will accept him or think he's still a threat is a scary thought
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>>323098993
I'm attracted to yorda in the way that i would want to marry her i don't want her sexualized
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>>323100583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwigmktix2Y
You know what's worse? Losing your short term memory.
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>>323099134
i don't want them to be the same
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>>323101041
>>323100861
>>323100104
Medium-sized breasts as well.
Hand-holding was too lewd to list.
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>>323101041

Well there's also the fact that the idols are shown glowing in the credits that lends itself to Yorda somehow surviving. Possibly, the spirits once more lent their powers to return Yorda to normal and send her adrift to wind up on the beach.

Though how her pale butt wasn't munched on by a shark is anyone's guess
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>>323101041
>Regardless, I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless

They have enough watermelon to survive
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>>323101123

That's what I always remember whenever people pull the whole "female voice disappears" thing. While it's a fun theory, some who hold it do seem to forget the Dormin are numerous, possibly hundreds. And they say "We" after hijacking Wander's broken body
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>>323101041
>I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless
The beach is up against a sheer cliff with no easy way to get up but I'm sure Ico could climb up there or he could swim around the side and find a new entrance or Yorda could use her powers or something if she still has them. There's lots they could do. Compared to the rest of the game a peaceful beach ain't nothing.
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>>323101453

And could eventually find their way off the beach, they're clearly on some landmass, so it stands to reason they'd probably just have to swim/sail a ways around and find civilization. Or at least a road to some place
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>>323101041
>I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless

At least Ico isn't strangling Yorda
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>>323100104
oh i had all of those before also i love pale skin yorda is perfect
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>>323101041
i usualy like digital books better because i keep my house dark but i don't like kindle is i'll buy it if it's under $20
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>>323101123
yes but the queen seems to be a single being like maybe a part of dormin
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>>323101342
yes medium is the best
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>>323101453
>>323101041
Watermelon? Black creatures chasing a pure white girl? Somebody call pol I think we're onto some subtext here. Joking aside, I don't think survival is relevant to the story but the optimist in me sees them living on

>>323101715
That's another argument for surviving I suppose. All in all though, like mentioned, the end of the story is that they're together in some capacity so I think survival was secondary to the point the devs were trying to make, though it makes the ending sweet/bittersweet depending on how you view it.

>>323102475
I feel ya. Kindle version is like 9 bucks and you can get a used for like 6 with shipping.

>>323102734
The queen clearly commands some kind of power similar to dormin (black substance around her, turns the boys into black substance, which has been in practice for at least 3000 years considering 1 horned boy per 100 years, resulting in 300 coffins assuming that was the only coffin space prior to the other parts of the castle being destroyed. My guess is she's trying to at the very least, gather the very dilluded parts of dormin for her power. She may be some kind of sorceress that was able to harness dormin's power over time to sustain herself, and once she gets all of him she'll have all his power (which seems pretty dangerous considering the prior civilizations had to make collossi to house just 1/16 of his power.
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>>323068445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqRf7ZON-gg

I could just listen to this all day.
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Is the ico&sotc hd collection any good or should I just emulate instead?
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>>323068445
It's all about WHEN you play something.
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How the fuck did these games get away with being worth $60 back in the day? /v/ would absolutely shit on them as being these pretentious style-over-substance "art games" if they came out more recently.
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>>323103492

>>323103468
It's well worth the price. For one, it's the PAL version of both games, which had some extra features added that the original US versions didn't get
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>>323103468
It is however it uses the European controls for Shadow which some say are inferior (I've never played the America version) but it has some extras apparently.
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>>323103445

I can't be the only one who hears guinea pigs squeaking when this plays.

I love guinea pigs
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>>323103615
>>323103685
Cool I wont have to go through the trouble of emulating then

Cheers mates
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>>323103590
ICO was new. It had a different mindset than all the other games. It came from Sony itself, not a indie studio. It had no agenda. It didn't try to push any political views in your face. It was just a cute little story.

And the handholding technology was pretty cool.
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>a game with a hand holding mechanic
>and it wasn't even censored

What a time to have been alive.
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>>323105319

>you have to actively hold the button to keep holding hands in the JAP/PAL/HD versions
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Aggdo
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>original concepts of Ico had robots
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It's a handholding simulator.
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>>323106364
Can you post them? I can't find anything reliable.
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>>323107006

If you look up the trailers for Ico, one of them shows some kind of mechanical thing in them. The game had quite a lengthy development
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>>323095329
It's good from the start.
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>>323068445
It's a game based entirely on the worst mechanic in video games. That's pretty special.
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>>323108830

Yet it does it so well. RE4 is probably the only other game that does escort missions perfectly
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>>323109685
I wouldn't know, I quit playing the moment it became an escort mission.
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>>323110375
Shit, me too. I hated that shit.
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>>323110375

In RE4? The game is still very much the same. Even with Ashley, she's able to be stuck in boxes or otherwise easy to keep an eye on without too much trouble
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I like escort missions. I love having buddies in video games.
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>>323103445
same
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>>323103590
Life was better back then.
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>>323103590
it's well worth the price i replay them all the time
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>>323106364
glad the robots where not put in the game
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>>323108159
It's good but it's pretty bland for a bit.
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>>323068445
It's the best game of all time
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It's not really that good but it seems retroactively good when you know it's by the same guys as SotC
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>>323079328
I wish they would do some kind of ico souls game
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>>323113176

Still, it would have been interesting to see how some of the scrapped ideas would have panned out.

>The shadows were originally knights that Ico had to knock down from below or from above
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point
>Yorda was originally meant to be escorted back to her room.

The last one is particularly interesting, if only because it makes me wonder what would happen should you failed. Was there something tying her life force?

Though I can bet one reason for the change was the unintentionally perverted nature of the goal
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>>323113773
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point

i wish this had made it
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>>323113582

Considering Miyazaki is a confirmed fan of Ueda, it could happen. As said, Ico certainly shows off the level designs that would inspire the Souls games. Though it is funny how some people still miss the detail about Yorda's cage and the mechanisms related to it.
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>>323113970

Only thing I can see not working with that is it would have either meant having to create a cast of NPCs, or finding some contrived excuse for it being empty. And let's face it, empty towns only work in the case of the world being a shithole like the Souls games where everyone normal and sane are tucked away from the player's sight to wallow in fear.
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>>323113773
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point
Does not fit with how we see these games now but that would have been very interesting.
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>>323114273
>And let's face it, empty towns only work in the case of the world being a shithole like the Souls games
Or Ico
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>>323114432

But the world in Ico isn't completely shit. We barely know about it beyond two games, and it usually seems the locations where the action takes place are shitty, though the forbidden lands was certainly more habitable looking than the castle which was clearly going to collapse sooner or later.
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>>323068445
It kinda sucks. It's somewhat novel because you are really underpowered and the puzzles/obstacles show a higher level of creativity than your average game.

But SotC is way better.
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>>323068445
>playing sjw shit
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>>323113970
this
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>>323114894

Geez, at least the earlier bait was trying. At least show some effort.
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Still a shame they didn't just do a full on remake for SotC, even sadder that Ueda decided to no restore some of the completed, but removed colossi.
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>>323115146
i'm all about minimum effort, maximum impact but it looks like i arrived to late

next time
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>>323115582

Doesn't really work with these games since nobody ever found them pretentious or try hard
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>>323113316
This picture is cruel and should not exist.
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I got tears in my eyes when yorda got sepperated from Ico on the bridge i thought that was the end of the game
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Ico hits a more visceral part of my psyche that SoTC doesn't. SoTC is about wonders, the wonders of beasts and lands of old. It most definitely has the theme of companionship twofolkd: The horse and Wander doing all this shit for Mono. But Ico man, I dunno. I just don't know why it tugs at me. Maybe it's the whole "youth" thing the game has going for it. The queen yearning for eternal youth at the cost of others, meanwhile Ico and Yorda exploring the castle as if they were the only beings in the world, an adolescent's paradise that the queen can never capture.
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>>323115836

How so?
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>>323113582
>ico souls

just end yourself
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>>323115836
Why? TLG is confirmed not dead for now.
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>>323068445
Be careful, if you have a short attention span or is bored easily, you're gonna get bored.

That aside, play it, it's a good game.
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>>323115836

You do know TLG is back on track, right?
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>>323116134
It offends me that there will never be a game about the seven of them trying to survive amidst the ruins of Icoland, hated and outcast by literally their entire world
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>>323095578
She does it in the ps3 version though, so everything's cool now.
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I love how pressing R1 felt like holding her hand
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>>323117164

That's pretty much what I was saying
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>>323095578

Nah the biggest differences were things like foliage, grass, and placement of save couches. I remember playing the PAL version via emulator last year and being like "what the fuck where did all this grass come from? Isn't there a save couch supposed to be here?"

And is it just me, or on the RAREST of occasions does Yorda sometimes say "Ico?"
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>>323117341
>that subtle controller vibration
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>>323117538

Foliage doesn't really mean much for gameplay, though. As for the couches, they were more or less the same, with a few tweaks. But Yorda's AI is the biggest thing that was changed since the original American version had her as a borderline retard who practically jumped into the arms of your enemies.

Not sure if she does say his name, but she does certainly say a few things outsides the cutscenes. Before, it was just her startled yelps when you struck a wall.
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>>323118209

Naw it don't, but a game like Ico it does a LOT for atmosphere. Plants can determine the age of something, they can be a serene sight.

>Select all images of grass
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>>323118563

Not like the original was all that barren, it still had some really grassy areas, even where you normally wouldn't have it. Though it was cool how they completed that bridge near the area with the giant crate. Especially since it allowed for a less convoluted way of getting Yorda to the grand hall instead of that long roundabout with the rails and having to climb on the box at least 3 times
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>>323116269
I was like "JUST GET IN THE BOAT WITH HIM WHAT THE FUCK"
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>>323068445
It's fun.
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>>323116329
souls is great you cunt
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>>323114051
What do you mean?
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>>323121318

The room where the cage is found connects to the queen's throne room. Look at the wall where you lower the cage, there's a steel door big enough for it.

Then go into the queen's throne room and move the camera up, you'll see the exact same door high up on the wall, above the throne.
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>>323079328
Last guardian seems more a spiritual succesor to ICO than SOTC
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>>323068445
What's special is Team Ico, they're magical. They only made two games and they're the coolest two games ever.
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>>323123020
they are
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>>323068445
How good is it to emulate? I hear it has broken shadows or something on the pcsx2 page and needs software mode. anyone have any experience?
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>>323122739

Never said it wasn't
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>>323123020
SotC is overrated garbage, honestly. It's literally just a glorified puzzle boss rush that you can beat in like 5 hours and never look back on.
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>>323097581
Come on man, the shadow monsters aren't THAT spooky. Let the windy isolation calm you.
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>>323123980
I mean, let's be honest here. What else is there to the game?
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>>323124184
Literally any game can be boiled down and classified as shit in that same way.

You aren't proving anything by doing it here.
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>>323123609
You're not entirely wrong, but it's pretty fantastically presented, it's pretty unique without being le obscure hipster shit, and a lot of love was clearly put into it, i think that's why it was so well recieved
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>>323124184

Great soundtrack. Creative monster design. A surprisingly thoughtful story that makes you question the morality of its characters.
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>>323123020
I love how intense the endings to both games are. The stories are so light-on with barely any cutscenes, then they just go all out in the final moments
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>>323124498
Yeah, but it's like all style, no substance. And this was pretty late in the apex of the 6th gen, when ridiculously good games were coming out left and right - many of which had way more content and work put into them.
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>>323124560
More like a pretentious, overblown orchestral soundtrack, goofy-looking earth and stone monsters, and a cliche fantasy plot about some dumbass resurrecting an evil god to try and revive his girlfriend. What a great game. Whoopee.
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>>323124819

It had plenty of substance though. Far more than any other games after that have aped it. Titan Souls? Oh sure, it's challenging, but it's pretty much a gimmick with the "one life, one arrow" thing.
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>>323068445
That version of the cover doesn't really do the game justice.
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I wish Shadow had more stuff to look at in the environment. I like traversing large distances but if there were maybe something more interesting to look at, excluding the lizards. If there was another thing like the lizards. I dunno.
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>>323125239

The fact that you misused the word pretentious tells me you're either not as serious as your post implies, or you're an idiot
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>>323125328

I'm not big on the East vs West shitposting, but I really do dislike some of the older Jap games getting nonsensical, crap boxart because apparently we can't handle a simple, aesthetically pleasing bit of art on our boxes.

We need mondo radical turbo tubular shit.
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>>323125448

Only reason we didn't get the Jap boxart originally was because it hadn't been made yet
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>>323125239
>More like a pretentious, overblown orchestral soundtrack

Of all the orchestral video game soundtracks in existence SotC has one of the least 'pretentious' or 'overblown' (not even sure how to quantify that to begin with). It's the perfect amount of 'blown' considering what you actually do in the game. It's literally perfectly fitting.
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>>323124819
I wouldn't say it has no substance. it does have a solid idea, bring back the soul of Dormin to save Mono. it cuts the bullshit and lets you get to each colossus without issue, which makes you feel even more bad for killing the creatures that are so easy to get to and kill.
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>>323125747

Not to mention Dormin is hardly "evil", they're ambiguous at best. They uphold the deal from the start, and clearly don't imply any kind of deceit when they hijack Wander's body. Likewise, Lord Emon isn't some dick for the sake of being a dick, he's somebody wholly dedicated to whatever religion Wander's country and he follow
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>>323125394
He's completely right though. The game is garbage.
It's just another case of /v/ having shit taste in everything.
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>>323125693
I don't need an epic orchestral score backing my slow, wonky climb up some giant, silly looking rock monster. It's corny as all hell.
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>>323125984

No, he's not. The word was misused. And the game is hardly garbage.
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>>323124819
>no substance

Sorry there weren't a bunch of pointless side quests with waypoints or epic combat finishing moves. The great thing about games like SotC is that they don't fuck around and get straight to the point. Maybe a small tutorial and then no bullshit, you go out and do your thing. I think you need to not be a teenager to appreciate that.
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>>323125239
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>>323126012

Calling it "corny" is a matter of opinion there, bub
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>>323126012
okay dude
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>>323125239
/v/ is such a shit place. Fucking hell.
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>>323126012
>corny

i'm going to guess you regularly play western AAA games and think they're totally gnarly and badass
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>>323126012
When thinking how hard it must be to do the physics for a game like SotC, I think they did a pretty good job. I only had a few times where it was wonky like climbing the beard of the whichever colossus. it being corny is debatable.
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>>323126937

That would be #6, forget what his nicknames were.
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>>323126643
Coincidentally, I guess I am right now? I don't know if Unreal and Deus Ex quite count as AAA, but I recently finished and replayed a bunch of other old school shooters and was impressed enough by the latter to start Human Revolution, which was collecting dust in my Steam library. Make of that what you will.
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>>323125239

>Contrarian: the post
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>>323127139
reddit games
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>>323068445
>Its shit for weebs
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>>323127948

Deus Ex is not a reddit game
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>>323125239
>pretentious
pretentious implies that it tried to do something but failed at it. I don't think team ico failed at all with the game they were trying to make.
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>>323125448
You get that box art with the collection but Shadow has a 3D cover too. It's a shame because in the start menu of the game both of them have their art and it would look really good on the cover but oh well.
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>>323126782
>you werw there
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>>323123421
post processing is broken similar to mgs3 but it emulates fine otherwise.

only a few areas look worse than the original, most areas look better desu.
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>>323128457
Well, I guess if they weren't trying to make a good game in the first place, then yeah! I guess they did!
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>>323128924

>it's bad because I say so

It's cute how you think your shitposts are the least bit meaningful
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Yorda is a big girl.
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>>323129971

Not that big
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>>323129971
>>323130075
they're both really cute. I might as well emulate it.
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>>323128786
do you have to change framelimit like with SoTC? and do you need skipdraw set to 3?
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>>323129971
4u
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>>323130297

What exactly is going on? Is she meant to be a giant in these?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTrm4Yie4ow
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>>323131941
fucking kek

why haven't i seen this
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>>323068445
you dont like it. move the fuck on, no need to shit post on /v/ to try and rustle jimmies you faggot
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>>323126782
>You werw there
How cute.
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>>323131941

That has to be an interesting sight; watching a fat white guy smack up someone in black with a stick
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I'm really glad I read this thread, listening to the OST right now. One of my favorite games ever.

I really hope TLG will be as good as Ico and SotC, but I fear the troubled development will be an issue
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>>323068445
ICO was "indie shit" before indie shit got big.
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>>323129971
Yeah that's way bigger than she is in the game.
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>>323134650
When is it supposed to release?
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>>323134685

How so? If it weren't for that game, many of the advances in gaming wouldn't have come to be, such as the lighting and world structure
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>>323135185

Sometime this year. Though one can assume probably not until the summer since we're already in the start of 2016 and there's not even any new news on it.

I'm figuring maybe like June or August at the latest. MAYBE November or December if anything else occurs
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>>323135273
Wasn't it also a pioneer in contextual leg placement?
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>>323135435

One of them, for sure. Given Sands of Time only about a year or so later also would include such little details
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>>323098301
But thats just a theory.
A game theory.
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>>323068445
I don't know, I didn't bother to find out what was "special" about this turd. It was still in the escort mission phase an hour in.
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>>323135435
the engine that team ico had was pretty advance for its time. it did help the ball rolling for what video games will be in the future.
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>>323068445
Got bored of ICO less than 2 hrs in the game. Shadow of the collossus was much better overall and the lore was pretty deep.
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>>323135742
you don't fucking say
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>>323135934
forgot my pic
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>>323134650
Doesn't have much of a legacy to live up to.
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Just started Ico on pcsx2. lets see if I hate it, but probably not since I love Shadow of the Colossus
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>>323136692

Better than most.
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Is there a way to play Ico and SoTC on ps4?
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>>323082616
>it was fleshing out things too much to the point it might as well has been an entirely unrelated story

It's been years since I last read it, but I at least remember thinking the book went too far with the backstory. ICO is meant to be open ended, so the fact that it drags on about Yorda's past makes it feel more like a retelling than a novelization.
Not a bad book by any means, but it should've focused more on the exploration of the castle and interactions between Ico and Yorda.
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>>323135375
hopefully it doesn't get canceled again
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>>323135934
pleb
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>>323138227
ps now you get the first week free but you need really good internet
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>>323139395

Doubtful. Given the amount of attention it's gotten, Sony would probably destroy themselves for good if they canned the game.
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>>323139751
why was it canceled in the first place?
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>>323139273

I wouldn't say there's anything too wrong with giving a defined backstory, but what hurts the book in a lot of ways is explaining a bunch of things that really didn't matter. Like, we didn't need a backstory for the horned statue, or a full on reason why the queen has powers (which we could have assumed were just the result of ripping open a horned boy).
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>>323139582
so it isn't a download to your hardware, it's a stream like the dead onlive?
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>>323139917
the book isn't really canon it's fan made
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>>323103590
did games actually cost $60 in america when ico was released? i thought that was a (somewhat) recent markup. where i live games used to cost like €45
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>>323139896

It never was canceled, just had a lot of development issues. Ueda, like many other game makers, tends to be really ambitious. And the PS3 version was going to be one of the most intensive the system would have had. Ttrico was meant to have EVERY feather individually rendered, not unlike how Sully in Monsters Inc. had many patches of his fur uniquely rendered. But the biggest issue was getting the gameplay to a satisfying level, which apparently they didn't even hit until like 2011, THEN they started on the story elements.

Obviously, they came to a similar decision like Ico years ago; either go through with the current version of the game or hop up to the newest system so they could take advantage of the power.
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>>323140073

Who said anything about canon?
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>>323140121

It was somewhat cheaper, somewhat
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>>323068445
>ICO and SotC are my favorite games of all time
>owned them on PS2
>skipped PS3
>want to own them on PS4
>games are locked behind shitty PS Now service and will never likely be available for individual sale again
>don't want to buy a PS3 just for the HD collection
Life is suffering.
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>>323121612
What does that imply?
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>>323122739
it's honestly part of the same series, takes place in the same universe at a different time period, and lore is directly connected. i don't think it's a spiritual successor
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>>323068445
It's special because it makes some people feel special to like a conceptual, pretentious game
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this game is sexist. not only is the girl completely submissive to a little weak ass boy, but she never even wanted to leave. she was forced to leave against her will
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>>323139917
I guess it's just my preference for the game's vagueness that makes the book feel cluttered. Exposition is nice, but just skimming through some chapters shows a lot of new names and places that seem excessive for a backstory.
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>>323140948
just get a ps3 at a pawn shop for a $100 they are much better on the ps3 than on the ps2 and the ps4
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>>323141271

Anita actually complained about this game, didn't she?
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>>323141203
le pretentious may may XD
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>>323141501
Well, everytime this game is brought up in a discussion at a party, or something, it always is by cinema students who go on and on about the perfection of godard or hou siao sien, sooooo...
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>>323140995

That the queen would have brought the cage to her throne room when she was ready to swap bodies with Yorda.
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>>323141371
I don't want to have a PS3 just to play those games, no matter how much I enjoy them.
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>>323141487

Don't think so. At least not to such a baitingly obvious way
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>>323141958

But the PS3 versions are the definitive ones. Besides, there's plenty of other games to enjoy, even a few somewhat like Ico and SotC
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>>323141870
it is perfection
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>>323141870
found the pretentious shit trying to call out other pretentious shits
>durrr i go the le parties with cinema students
>i'm not like le hip hop drowd!
fuck off
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>>323141958
why? the ps3 is great
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anyone else feel the HD version was a little too pristine? the ps2 versions were a little hazy and you couldn't even fully see yorda's face. i actually liked that
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>>323142060
Yes, I know this. You're missing the point. I don't want to buy an entire console just for the games. That, and I shouldn't have to because Sony wants to sell them as cloud rentals only for outrageous prices.
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>>323142370
what even...
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>>323142265
you sound lonely, uncultured, and jealous
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>>323142370
what would you buy a gaming system for if not for the games?
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>>323142334
he's poor and/or stupid
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>>323142451
>cultured
>going to parties where faggots talk about ico
heh
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>>323142370
what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>323092764
My theory is that the Queen is some unrelated character trying to become more than human by draining Dormin's power that was left in Wander and later passed down to his descendants, the Horned Children
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>>323142517
>>323142334
>>323142415
Because I don't want a PS3 just for one game? How difficult is this to understand. There's no other reason that I would buy a PS3.
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>>323142646
All I want to do is play Ico and SotC, both Sony-exclusive series, on my PS4. You know, the latest console. I'd like to be able to go onto the PS Store, spend some money, download the game, own it, and play it.

However, I can't because Sony thinks that's a silly idea. They want me to pay to rent it instead. Not only that, but they want me to pay money to stream it online to play it. What the fuck were they thinking with this PS Now crap?
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>>323142581
Nah, dawg. More like:
>going to parties with decent people
>being too shy
>people who happen to be cinema students try to break ice with me
>sperg out and say video games
>they actually know about ICO
>instead of discussing it with them, i think they are pretentious
>post on /v/ about it

You're lucky if to even find someone who knows about ICO in the first place.
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>>323142581
>posting in a thread where faggots talk about Ico
what's it like not having real friends?
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>>323142759
there is demons souls and if you don't have a pc theres dragons dogma
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>>323142981
just get a PS3
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>>323142759
there is catherine
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>>323143068
So cultured, you are.
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>>323143035
BTFO
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>>323142981
>doesn't want to buy a system for only two games
>bought the system with only one game

>doesn't want to pay for online functionality
>doesn't buy the system that has free online
>bought the system that charges you for online

your logic is flawless

>What the fuck were they thinking with this PS Now crap?
they were thinking that retards like you exist in the millions
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>>323143269
so triggered, you are
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NA PS2 version was rushed for release and is missing content and Yordas AI is fucked

play either the PS3 or the JP/PAL version for PS2
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>>323091712
>unambitious
>aimlessly pursuing a degree
>inspired by a very beautiful game to risk a huge turn in his life at fucking 29 that leads to making 2 of my favorite games

God damn, call me a faggot all you want I almost teared up reading that.
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>>323143608
>risk a huge turn in his life at fucking 29
dude that's young
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>>323143608
Miyazaki,Ueda, And Satoshi Kon are my 4 favorite people
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>>323143976
*3
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>>323123421
Beat the game emulating about 5 years ago on a shitbox PC. Ran really well, perhaps a little too well in some spots. I'd never recommend the PS2 version over playing this on PC.
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>>323143704

Not in Japan
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>>323143704
i consider 30 middle aged
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He's not exactly wrong about the PS NOW thing being ridiculous. If Sony weren't so against proper backwards compatibility, they wouldn't have nearly as much flak as they get
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Most of the hate for this game comes from the rushed NA version, where Yorda isnt much more than a sack of potatoes.

All the other versions she is an actual character who interacts with the player and the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_3CqCYOlXQ
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>>323068445
Memes.
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>>323143704
As that guy explained you are already supposed to have your desk job that you will die doing by that point. Everything should be figured out and rolling by then. That's a part of why the Christmas Cake thing exists.
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>>323144879
>Most of the hate
What hate?
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>>323144879
So I have to get the japanese version of Ico to get the full experience?
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>>323144512
>>323145175
yep, I suck cocks, forgot about Japanese slave culture

>>323144573
you're wrong and getting more wrong by the year, life expectancy is rising
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>>323068445
You protect a white lady from a pack of darkies.
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>>323068445
you're supposed to enjoy it not to be pleb
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>>323145309
No just any other version.
>>323144879
I cannot believe I never realized she was saying Ico.
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>>323076543
SotC is all boss fights, no middle bits
Ico is all normal enemies and puzzles, almost no boss fights.

They fit together to make the perfect game. SotC is better but Ico fills a different niche.
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>>323145309
just get the PS3 remaster, it's fine
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>>323145482
sucks cause I don't have a ps3 and I was planning on getting a ps4. if only it had backwards compatibility.
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>>323145576
PS3 has such an amazing catalog of games and the online is free. Just get a PS3 if you can get one cheap. It's currently a better system than PS4.
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>>323145351
how long is it now?
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>>323145765
also if you like dark souls the ps3 online community is much better and more active
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>>323145480

You probably know this already, but SotC was originally supposed to have minor enemies scattered around the map as well but they cut it due to time constraints. I don't remember if he actually mentioned a more specific reason.

I'm kinda curious about what it would've been like though. I think the empty feeling of SotC's world really adds to the atmosphere of the game - it taking place in the Forgotten Lands after all, but at the same time it could've been fun
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>>323146381
i like it being empty a lot more
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>>323146381

Don't recall that ever being the case. Pretty sure they wanted it to be bosses all throughout, but more open ended. In that, you could have chosen which colossus to go after at any time, and even have to really hunt around for some.
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>>323068445
>That boxart

Every single time
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Its atmosphere.
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>>323144879
if I got the ntsc-j for the pcsx2, is there a way I can switch the language to english so I can understand the subtitles?
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>>323147076

Why not just get the PS3 version?
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>>323147076
Ico has subtiteles? i thought you could not understand Ico and yorda
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>>323147435
Ico's subtitles are in english
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>>323131408
its basically a "what if yorda was really big?" and the situation that would arise from it
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>>323068445
>whats special about it
In its time it was beautiful and "intelligent". But even in its time people complained it was a short escort mission with little substance.
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>>323147338
because I don't have a ps3 or ps4. I paid for a gaming pc so I'm wondering if there's a way to switch subtitles in the ntsc-j version.
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>the secret lightsaber in the PAL version
>the way it suddenly gets HUGE when Ico touches Yorda's hand

It was very useful, but always felt a bit too lewd to be in such a nice and comfy game.
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>>323148127
Yorda is magic remember? She can move those idol doors

Nothing lewd going on there, she is just channeling some energy to Ico
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>>323148127
is the framerate noticeably different on pal? I'm downloading the pal version right now for pcsx2
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>>323148127

Not any stranger than the fact that a ball is stuck in the tree in the garden outside the room you play what basically amounts to hoops with and some magic force throws you either a mace or the lightsaber
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>>323149539

Not that I know of. Though the JAP or PAl version did have a weird option to fiddle with the gravity or some such, practically letting you hop like the hulk
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>>323151458
sweet it lets me choose language and the framerate. now there's no reason to get a ps3 for now.
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>>323151663

Except for better textures and cleaner details
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I don't know how you could hate Ico. it's such a cute game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3WmyJokl5w
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This turned out to be a pretty decent thread.
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