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This will be the best Final Fantasy game since 7 and quite possibly the best Final Fantasy game ever.
you can't prove me wrong
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>>323016145
>you can't prove me wrong
And you can't prove that it will be. Let's wait until the game is released, and see how well it holds up?
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>>323016145
Have you even played the demo? It's boring.
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>>323016145
So you're just inviting shitposting eh?

This is why we can't have nice FFXV threads
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So is that why they're finally remaking 7? Because they know they finally made another Final Fantasy as good or better?
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>>323016145
>you can't prove me wrong
>likes FF7
I can tell you like ATB trash
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>>323016145
>This will be the best Final Fantasy game since 7 and quite possibly the best Final Fantasy game ever.

>you can't prove me wrong

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/04/final-fantasy-15-draws-storytelling-inspiration-from-the-last-of-us
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>>323016145
kek 2/10

shit bait
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>>323016145
bad characters and weird combat system, i really don't think so. might be a good stepping stone though
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>best ever
>since x game
How does it feel to still have the mind of a 7 year old?
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>>323016975
We haven't been able to for months anyway.
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dead on arrival
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>>323017589
autism on arrival
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>>323017589
>what's up with all these ridiculous hairstyles
kek
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>>323016145
dumb j-pop group faggot weeaboo shit.
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>>323016145
I agree.
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>>323017064
Yes it has seamless story and gameplay integration which it has had since it was Versus and which the director then named another recent and well known game that does something similar for story and gameplay integration, he didn't fucking say they are basing it on tlou you illiterate fuck
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>>323017881
Every other FF is j-pop, XV has literally none of that

>>323017365
Easily the best characters we've had in an FF
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>>323017064
you don't like TLOU? I played through it recently and thought it was really good
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>>323018719
>Easily the best characters we've had in an FF
what do we even know about these guys as of yet?
There is the prospect of some interesting character interactions and development, but to go as far as to say the best at this point is dumb.
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>>323016145
DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE
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Reminder to ignore the shills.
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>>323017589
>youtube comments
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>>323016145
>This will be the best Final Fantasy game since 7

You say that like it's actually hard to accomplish.
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>>323016975
You can't have nice threads on /v/, period.
The only civil threads are the ones that aren't vidya and end up getting deleted.
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>>323016145

>you can't prove me wrong

I played the demo, and I'm not sure how to feel about it. The FPS wasn't stable, camera is sort of weird, and the combat is kind of slow. Although I did like how realistic it felt compared to Kingdom Hearts. I ended up deleting it because the area got very boring after spending so much time in it.

I really want this game to be good, but I get an odd vibe from it for some reason.
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>>323022483
yeah same here. It felt like they didn't know how to make an action game.
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>>323019115

>I played through it recently and thought it was really good

Last of Us is fine. /v/ just doesn't like western games.
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>>323022650
This
Especially strange considering one of the lead battle designers worked for KHII, which had awesome combat.

Tabata's old hands ruin everything.
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>>323016145
What happened with their designs? All black,fuck,i remember old FF characters,they were colorful and different...now this.
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>>323022650

This is being made by the same team that did Crisis Core. So yeah, they know what they're doing.
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>>323022801
>implying Crisis Core had good gameplay.

Just stop existing.
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>>323022801
If Crisis Core itself is anything to go by, no hey don't.
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Final Fantasy X is the best one.
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>>323016145
>the best Final Fantasy game since 7
>implying that's the gold standard for FF
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>>323022781
>"hey we're members of a royal family based on the japanese mafia who come from a kingdom named after the night that worships a death goddess"

I would be surprised if they didnt wear black.
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>>323023251
It's the last good mainline FF so it may as well be.

Get that 9 furfaggotry out of my face.
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>>323022753
the 1.0 version of the demo ran at a shit framerate, had you hold down one button to attack repeatedly with recovery animations your couldn't cancel out of.

in the 2.0 version, they fixed the framerate a bit, so now it runs at a semi solid 25-30 fps, and they made a dodge animation you can use to cancel out of your attacks (this little thing in itself already improves the fighting a shit ton).

I read recently that the full game has a weapon switching feature instead of just holding down the button, so that you can use the weapons you want at any given situation. You can also tap the attack button to get different attacks than if you hold it down.
>source: http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/09/final-fantasy-xv-automatic-battle-system-removed-more/

So all of this just leaves me baffled as to why the fuck they decided to push out that 1.0 Episode Duscae demo. From reading more articles about this game, it appears that they just change major parts of the game all the time.
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>>323023492
Two words:

Ravage
Animations.

The fact that they pushed them in their recent tech-demo showcase makes me mad as fuck.

I just want the game to look and play like it did during the TGS2014 presentation.

If the next ATR won't deliver, then fuck my hype for this game
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>>323023435

>implying XII wasn't the last good mainline

I am so fucking done with you tasteless, nostalgia babies. I might even need to stay far away from the internet when XV comes out.
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>>323022781
>real reason
Pic related

>lore reason as stated by the development team
Black is the color of the royal family and all of their retainers wear it too.

I'm surprised at the lack of belt and zippers desu
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>>323023708
they'll finally show us how magic works in the game.
I would love it if you could use it mid combo to enhance attacks, apart from casting it normally as a ranged attack
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>>323023492
>leaves me baffled as to why the fuck they decided to push out that 1.0 Episode Duscae demo

1.Because they didnt want to keep fans waiting any longer without giving them something.
2. They wanted fan feedback and that was implemented in 2.0
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>>323023715
> ff without a world map
> good

Who really has the shit tastes
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>>323023715
Oh noes what have I done I made some 12faggot hipster stay off the internet surely this will negatively affect me :(
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>>323019596
No him, but I'd say the group had better and more nuanced character dynamics in the short, plotless demo than most JRPGs accomplish in their whole games. Every member seems to have layered and unique relationship with every other member, which is fairly rare.
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>>323023715
Good riddance, you Ivalicefags are a bigger cancer on the FF fandom than the FF7 weeaboos.
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>>323023979
Considering the game had more exploration and more expansive environments than any FF with a wold map, I don't see the problem. If he said FFX or XIII, then you'd have a point.
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>>323016145
The only good mainline FF is 2. FF fanbase hates it.

How can any new mainline FF be good in this case?
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>>323024648
Because you have the worst taste imaginable if you actually think this.
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>>323023708
I hope they fix a ton of smaller things too.

>play the demo
>enemy magitek soldier is doing a kicking combo
>have an idea of how quick my initial attack is with the Avenger sword
>time it so that I will hit him in a safe spot during his combo
>as I press the X button, Noctis takes a step forward to get in better range BEFORE he starts his attack, although I had spaced it properly
>miss the moment due to this and get hit in the face because i tried doing something slightly advanced
This isn't an irredeemable thing for an action game, but when the character has a mind of his own it feels really annoying to try to pull off some cool shit and git gud
It doesn't have to be Devil May Cry, but fuck.
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>>323024345
Thanks for agreeing that XII is the last good FF game. :^)
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>>323023708
are the ravage animations special? What makes you mad as fuck? I cannot remember it since i played the demo so long ago
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>>323016145
You're so ridiculously deluded, nobody could, so kill yourself, please.
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>>323025048
That's only because when compared to the unmitigated catastrophe that is FF13 even diarrhea on a plate is acceptable.
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>>323024956
Retarded FF fanboy detected.

Or more likely - a parrot that never played this game.
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>>323025207
Explain to me why the game which encourages you to attack your own party members to raise your stats is the only good game in the series.
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Is this the best battle theme in the series so far?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8
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>>323025462
I thought we all agreed this is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jho-peCAKs
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>>323025056
It's the weapons attack slot for the actual combos - instead of being like it was before - Noctis chaining together crush attacks, now he's doing an awkward, slow and unresponsive shit-tier animation for comboing his attacks
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It really just needs a good story and some impressive set pieces. That's it really.

I don't think there's ever been a Final Fantasy battle system other than 5 that is enjoyable and comes with a bit of depth. Accessible depth, don't fucking bring junctions into this.
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>>323025462
no, this one is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVls2heTbU
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>>323025462
I fucking hated playing it, but FF8's battle theme was good.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHMMDz27hw
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>>323025453
It's the only one FF where battle rows were implemented well.

The character/progression system is flawed but gives more interesting options and versatility than(again) any other FF

It's one of the few where the story goes somewhere.

It isn't a tunnel(which is big problem for many FF fans).
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>>323025462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me4gI1eBoa4

also, special shoutout to FFXIII's battle theme for being the only good thing I took away from that dreadful experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xznpr3AEFDY
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>>323025940
That's not Man with the Machine Gun
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>>323026115
The only good thing from FF13 was the models and art design. Vanille is made for the penis.
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>>323025462
FFXIV has this one really good boss song that plays when you attack a FATE boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9yKegOT02g

it is way too hype for a MMORPG
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When in january are we going to here more about this game.
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>>323026524
23rd.

FF Ex Vee day.
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>>323026367
after playing it for over 40 hours, none of the characters had any appeal left. Except for maybe Sazh because he was just a dad that was too old for this shit and didn't want to be there, which i could relate to, because neither did I.

>>323026524
"near the end of januray 2016"
I dont think we have heard anything new since this post
>http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/12/final-fantasy-xvs-next-active-time-report-is-in-january-2016/
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>>323026367
My nigger
The only reason I started playing this game
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Its got no grills in the party
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>>323025462
It's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJZeucmtURQ

I wonder how it will sound in the Remake. Will Nobuo do it right?
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Are we ever going to have a modern Final Fantasy with a proper job system? The most iconic thing about the franchise? Because fuck
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>>323027669
This is why Bravely Default exists.
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>>323028013

I meant like with the production vales and scope of something like XV. A full on modern Final Fantasy built around a V-esq job system
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>>323022801
If anything that only confirms that it will suck ass.
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>since 7
Ayyyylmao
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>>323028219
He's right though, every mainline FF after 7 sucked shitdick except 12, which I haven't played.
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>>323027669
>Job system

Here's a job.
Get a sword, get a lance, wear black, use Curaga and summons.

Done.
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>>323027324
which is surprisingly refreshing from a modern JRPG, dont you think?
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>>323016145
>since 7
Haha
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>>323027669
Ever going to get a Final Fantasy (non-MMO) that lets you create a character? Dragon Quest already did it, whats your excuse FF? Is DQ better than you?
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>>323025462
Muh niggggaaaa
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>>323028524
No, its unsurprisingly bad.
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w h e n t h o
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>>323025462

Not even kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2Z7ZZUyMY

It's either this or IX's main battle theme.
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>>323028925
Are they still changing the battle system?
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>>323029174

Look at the UI. Tabata confirmed manual weapon switching and "faster paced combat".
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>>323029174
they haven't even showcased the magic system which is a huge part of any FF game, so yeah, I guess they are
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>>323028925
These ATR videos suck.
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>>323028689
Which DQ did that?
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>>323028925
In 2 weeks.
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>>323028837
FF X-2 would be your game, m10
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>>323029673
9
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>>323029564

Last ATR was cool. Marlboro looked badass.

Of prefer ATRs to Atlus blue balling fans over P5.
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>People still get excited over Squarepenis games

This is just sad and btw it will be shit.
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>>323029781
>>323029673
DQ9, granted your character wasn't a bastion of commentary but it worked out pretty well and still has a simple, moving story.
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>>323029783
I think Atlus are marketing P5 much smarter. Any P5 trailer beomes an internet phenomenon while Tabata keeps showing incomplete and rough footage. Just look at how many views P5 trailers have on Youtube.
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>>323017064
That's pretty clever actually.
Witcher 3 was a mess of a story-telling, pacing is awful.
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>>323016145
Had this come out four or five years ago I would have been ready to rob a bank just to be able to play it. Now I couldn't give less of a fuck; I'm much more hyped for KH3, SO5, P5, ToB etc. than I am this game or the FF7 remake.
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>>323030002
>I think Atlus are marketing P5 much smarter

They're being way too tight in my opinion.

The reason Tabata keeps showing shit is to keep peoples' interest. Considering how fucking long it's been. The ATRs are a great idea IMO.
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>>323017676
to think how many times hes been posting that before you even thought of starting to screencap them
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>>323030163
But Tabata is also pissing people off with short meaningless trailers like the "Dawn" trailer. Make lesser more meaningful trailers instead.
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>>323016145

It's looking more rushed by the day OP.

They were so desperate for it to be the next big thing that their long winded production efforts back fired on them and they're just throwing it out the door next year.

Every single announcement or drastic change from character playability to roles changing in the story is just another continuous step down in sequence from what was originally intended.
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>>323030497

That's not his call though, it's marketing's..
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>>323030625

Nomura came up with Versus with sequels in mind. When denied those sequels, severe changes had to be made.
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>>323016891
i played FF8 demo and it was boring too..only good thing was killing a ifrit and a t-rex, rest was just dull with sleepy music and squall the autist

turns out it was amazing, i even like it more than 7
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the only good thing about FF is triple triad
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>>323016891

>judging a whole game by a demo made for feedback
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>>323030785
>only good thing was killing a ifrit and a t-rex, rest was just dull with sleepy music and squall the autist

But that's true for the full game too, the only difference being you get some annoying hyperactive slut as a love interest, and everybody is trying to force you two together instead of, you know, letting your relationship develop naturally like it did in literally any other FF with romance.
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>>323030850
the only good thing about this post is triple triad
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>>323030625
>this game is dead because it takes too long
>this game is rushed because they're releasing it
No pleasing some people.
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>>323016145
god damn why is that herbivore so fucking spiky
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>>323030898
that is usually what consumers do when given a "demo", yeah
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>>323031121
to fend off attacking predators and boy bands
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>>323030137
>2011+5
>being hyped for Tales of DLC
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>>323031286
That thing is not built for head-on combat at all. Look at that damn neck.
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>>323016145
>you can't prove me wrong
There's a demo out. You've already been proven wrong. Game is shit.
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>>323025580
This is the best FF soundtrack, even if you didn't like VIII you have to agree.
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>>323031360
it can just stomp on things. Look how huge it is
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>>323031203

Yeah a demo released weeks before a game's release.

Not a demo released for a game with no release date, and where the devs were upfront about how it's just a representation of where they are.

Especially a paid demo.

Be less retarded.
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>>323031428
No I don't.
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>control one guy
>most of the combat is automated

JRPGS dead in the water.
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>>323031428
Indeed. VIII is easily my second least favorite of the mainline franchise but it has some of the best music.
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>>323031468
you just reminded me that i actually paid money for that demo.
fuck.
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>>323031463
Still doesn't explain the spikes. I know they're just there for the design, but I get so bothered by shitty design where you just make animals over-designed, and "woah fantasy"
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>>323031006
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>>323031591
>you just reminded me that i actually paid money for that demo

I bought a PS4 for the demo.

No joke. Money ain't a problem, but I still feel a little dirty. Luckily Second Son turned out to be a great game, and Yakuza Ishin and Yakuza Zero in 60 FPS made it worth it.
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>>323028013
Too bad bravely second was awful
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>>323031790
Where can I get hold of the demo for cheapest?
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>>323031635
i dunno man, imagine that thing jogging at a quick pace and ramming into anything with those spikes. It doesn't even need to run all that fast since its weight will crush anything anyway

>>323031790
you did? Well I hope you enjoyed it more than I did. I had hoped that Type-0 HD was good, but that was a janky mess on top of a lot of other small things i really didn't like about it. music was stellar though
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Say what you want about XIV, but I'd say it consistently has the best fucking battle themes in the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAkiP4WE-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9F0tU7-wbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Av8flSjmMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02dgGFhkLQ
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>>323032153
XIV has good fucking music
>Final Fantasy II boss batlle remix plays while you are in a chaotic street fight
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>>323032036
The spikes on its back and under its neck are useless, and the spikes on its face are just in the way. Precisely as you say, its weight is sufficient, and the spikes are just extra luggage
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>>323017049
>So is that why they're finally remaking 7?

No. They are remaking 7 to destroy it in the minds of nostalgia tards. That's why they went with all the bad choices like making it episodic and changing the combat.
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>>323030137
I honestly hope the remake sucks, just to spite the "muh graffix" shitters.
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>>323032331
can't argue with that.
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They don't even look like a boyband

They have a yankii, delinquent and yakuza style

That guy cracked me up from the thread, maximum autism
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>>323032451

Episodic is a good thing because we can play some of the game earlier. Definitely worth paying 3 times as much money
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>>323016145
They are remaking FF7 and releasing it in Episodes to make more money off it.
This just shows that they have no fucking
confidence in FF15
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>>323032616
I know I've only been awake for a few minutes but this has got to be sarcasm.
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>>323017049
It was so good it took them over a decade to make. You know, like Boyhood.

>>323032451
I'm glad the remake is fucked, I hope all you faggots crying and begging for remakes instead of new games continue to be shat upon by the companies you claim to love.
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>>323032617
People were throwing a massive shitstorm when Konami did it with Ground Zeroes. Now we have people actually defending Square doing that shit? Give me a break.
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>>323032617
>This just shows that they have no fucking
>confidence in FF15

If they had no confidence in FF15 they would just release more Kingdom Hearts games. KH fans always buy new games regardless.
Releasing an FF7 remake (and poorly) shows that they want fans to shut the fuck up about an FF7 remake.
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VII honestly wasn't that great, so any remake would be good IMO. Just wait for the whole thing to be out then buy the inevitable discount pack and get the whole experience proper
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>>323016145
I am god.
You can't prove me wrong.
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>>323032929
Yes good goy, buy our remake! All 12 parts of it for $59.99 each!
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>>323032984
Actually I can.
You are posting on /v/.
God is perfect.
Perfect by definition means it has taste.
People with taste don't post on /v/.
Therefore you cannot be God.
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>>323033170
If God was as perfect as you say he is then why did he create us miserable humans?
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>>323033151
>buy the inevitable discount pack and get the whole experience proper

It's like you didn't even read it
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>>323032929
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>>323033262
Because everyone wants to have children.
Even God. We are His children. He gave us free will so we could be totally happy. We CHOSE to be miserable piles of shit posting on 4chan all day.
Its not His fault.
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>>323033378

>Feels unfulfilled and needs children

That sounds like a flaw to me
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>>323033304
I can already get the whole experience proper any time I want, and I don't need shiny graphics or shitty voice acting to do so.

>>323033378
It is His fault, he should have made us better.
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Is FFXV-kun here?
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>>323033480
Nope. You don't understand human nature at all.
That's not the reason people want children.

>>323033503
He made us perfect. We threw away that perfection.
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>>323033592
If we were perfect then we wouldn't have thrown away our perfection.
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>>323033567
I haven't seen him.
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>>323033662
You can blame Adam and Eve on that. Or just Eve. Since she's the one that fucked it up for all of humanity to follow.
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>>323033758
If they were perfect they wouldn't have fucked up.
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>>323033567
>>323033682
Yeah he's right here >>323032929
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>>323033917
No. That's not him. You'll notice him when he posts cherrypicked images edited in Paint comparing Noctics to Japanese biker gangs.
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>>323016145
it will be worse than FF13 which was the worst 3D FF.
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>>323033567
>>323033682

don't know. He could be.

there are some people in this thread who write posts like him though.

You know, like this. There have also been a couple of name callings etc, but that is normal.
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>>323033841
Nigger why are you trying to debate me on God. I'm not even christian. I'm just proving that anon isn't God.
Go away.
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>>323033567

what do you want retard?
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>>323034003
I thought you were referring to the general Squaredrone?
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>>323016145
>best Final Fantasy game s
>wanting Fujobait Fantasy 15

The fact you have to bend towards female gamers is a new low
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man fuck persona 5. It just looks so fucking trashy i cant believe anyone would want to play that shit

anyone who defends it are fucking retarded
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>>323016145
Well yeah obviously, it has all the trappings to be one of the best FFs yet.
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>>323034087
>>323034232
wew lad
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>>323034028
But he IS God, anon. We are all part of Him.
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>>323034232

I know right. Fucking idiots.
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>>323016145
I'm just getting this for Cidney and Genitalia.
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>>323032929
>VII honestly wasn't that great, so any remake would be good IMO.

A remake would only make VII's flaws even more obvious, thus would be much worse.
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>>323034741
Flawless logic.
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>>323022801
No it isn't, it's being made by people who made KH2
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>>323033682

I heard he got banned
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>>323023708
Manual weapon switching means you can have unlimited Crush
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>>323016145
Final Fantasy 7 isn't by any means the best unless we are talking popularity, and IF we are talking popularity then don't delude yourself into thinking this new game will be as popular considering it is vastly different from FF7 and FF as a whole. The character design in this game is also one of the least inspired I ever saw, and I'm not alone in this. The gameplay is alright for what it is, but gameplay alone doesn't carry a FF game. The story looks like it will be garbage: a snowflake prince with his bland boy band going in a journey to save the world in his daddy's expensive car fighting against some obligatory shitty evil empire chasing your party with their army of stupid soldiers and shitty villains who aren't real characters at all and will be there just to be defeated by the party to make them appear good. Even in the trailers it feels like forced drama is going to be the rule, and if interviews are any clue it looks like they are literally desperate to sell this game for the people, always saying things to hype their game while showing little gameplay because they realized the gameplay isn't anything special. This game has been a bag of mixed reactions ever since it was changed from Versus XIII to XV. If you think it will ever manage to be as popular as FF7 even considering it alienates the kind of people FF7 attracted then you are delusional.
Besides, we have the FF7 remake to look forward now, another reason this game will never reach the same popularity.
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>>323035180
That almost makes me sad. Now there isn't anyone here to post until bump limits are reached. No wonder this thread is so quiet compared to a usual day.
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>>323022781
It's almost as if they were designed purposely to contrast with the rest of the world who are colorful and varied while they are supposed to be from an isolated modern city from an organization that operates like a yakuza business
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>>323025462
Omnis Lacrima is better, also Veiled in Black is the best regular FF battle theme.
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>>323035348
HE'S HERE
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>>323035196
>Besides, we have the FF7 remake to look forward now, another reason this game will never reach the same popularity.

I'll gladly take FF15 over a remake that's already confirmed to be fucked.
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>>323017589
>le youtube comments
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>>323027669
The weapon system in FFXV effective acts as a makeshift job system, you basically shape Noctis however you want based on the weapons you equip him with because they then has a playstyle for that weapon
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>>323029564
Only one ATR was shit.

The ones from 2014 were really good because we got a lot of meaningful new stuff from them, in 2015 they were mostly focussing on the demo and just teasing story stuff

This year they will be going all out, showing new combat stuff, major reveals and all that
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>>323032903
It just seems like a logical choice for a big ass, big budget game. No fucking way they could make an adequate remake of a game like final fantasy 7 without chopping it up to pieces. Even my little brother understood that, and he isn't even nearly as knowing of the facts of how much making multi-a games costs nowadays.

I can't understand how you guys don't get it, and you seem to have a wider understanding on these things than your average consumer, most of the times.
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>>323035620
instead of them going all out with their ATR marketing, I would rather have them release the game some time soon.
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>>323030625
One character changed into a slightly differnet character, which only impacted one aspect of the intro, the rest of the story, setting, world and characters are still the same as we knew them, and only some have had minor adjustments to their design like bigger beard or hair.

As for gameplay it still plays as it did in the 2013 trailer, the demo purposely left a fuck ton of features out, but we already got reconfirmation that manual weapon switching, aerial combat and fast combat is still in as well as the things we saw in the 2013 trailer

It's not being "rushed" at all, it's been in full development since 2012 and is coming out in 2016, that date was set back in 2012 and they are on schedule
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>>323032617
Except XV is a bigger game than FF7R will be
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>>323035194
No it doesn't
Unless you mean by switching weapons constantly just in order to do so, which still restrictive and sucks.
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>>323035878
wait, aerial combat? They got other stuff than that ½meter jump button and the Descent attack? (and the Dragoon Jump, but that isn't really aerial)
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>>323016145
Pretty salty it's not coming to PC.
I was thinking about buying a PS4 to play it but I can't bare the 900p 30fps.
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We had a decent thread and now FFXV-coon arrived.
See y'all next time, folks.
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>>323036085
>30fps
a bit optimistic are we?
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>>323035863
They have one ATR this month showing off Magic combat and other combat, the latest build of the game and Niflheim stuff

Then nothing until March where they give out the release date, major reveals,

Then we probably won't get anything until E3 with a final trailer, or maybe at Gamescom for the final trailer
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>>323035847
That's bullshit. FFXV is already going to be bigger than FFVII was. They already have the script, scenario and story. It's obvious they're just making this as a quick cash grab because making a full-fledged remake would've taken too long for modern businesses.
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>>323036140
it is clear as day when he arrives. The entire first part of the thread suddenly gets replies all at once as to why they were wrong about the game, and the rest of the thread is just rampant name calling, unless the thread turns into the echochamber he wants it to be
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>>323036084
Yes Tabata specifically stated that aerial combat was left out of the demo on purpose, and that was because he said they were leaving the aerial combat till last because it's the easiest thing to do

He said they tackled the hardest bits first which was Summons and then went on from there
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>>323035847
There's already confirmed to be much more wrong with the remake than chopping it up into pieces. What's worse is that shitters who never played the original game will play this "reimagining" first and treat it like the official canon. Square could fuck FF7's shit up six ways to Sunday and newfags will STILL defend it (like they did with the rest of the compilation).
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>>323016145
>ffxv runs at a lower framerate than a game that came out 20 years ago
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>>323016145
Actually I can.
>that shit tier combat system
There.
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>>323036392
so no details? hmph
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>>323016145
anyone else notice the blatant copying of XCX in the more recent game advertisement ever since XCX was a big hit?
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>>323035863
The ATRs are fine, aside from the Gamescom one last year. Sure some of them are clearly padded with minor stuff to pass time, but it's certainly better than nothing.
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>>323036505
the last one I remember seeing had fishing and that nothing "Dawn 2.0" trailer

The chocobo riding looked cool, but they should have showed off a place where you actually use the dashes and the drifting. Like, a quick little time trial event or something. that should be quick to set up for a live presentation like this.
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>>323036054
Yes it does

You can set each weapon to be either a Crush, Ravage or Vanquish type weapon, it doesn't automatically string between a CRV thing in the full game, that was just a demo mockup

How it works is you set up any of the four weapons to be either a Crush, Ravage or Vanquish type, and each of the four weapons have their own Counter and Descend too

So you can set up four weapons to be just Crush weapons, and so everytime you attack with say weapon 1 that you set as Crush, you will always do Crush attacks with weapon 1, repeated Crushes, switch to weapon 2 which you also made Crush and you can do repeated Crushes with that, etc

That is why in the 2014 footage we see multiple Crush hits being done consecutively with multiple differnet weapons by Noctis, because that was the actual combo system

What we got in the demo was not that, it was a mocked up version which automated the Crush to Ravage to Vanquish

The full game system has already been said that the CRV system is actually a sub system
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>>323036474
Tabata mentioned back in February that Noctis can jump higher than bird height, and then said oops that is a spoiler.

So it sounds like we can upgrade jumps
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>>323036403
Every single piece of FFXV footage since August 2015 has been 30FPS at 1080p.
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Where can I get a demo key? I want to take this for a spin.
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>>323037063
must have been referring to the Dragoon Jump ability. Can't see what we'll need that high of a jump for in the game. Or it might be in a cutscene or something anime like that
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>>323036486
XCX was not only a blunder, but FFXV was revealed before XCX was and was also stated to be an open world game before Xenoblade came out on Wii

XCX did not fucking invent open world RPGs
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>>323016145
>you can't prove me wrong
No, but the demo and everything we've seen about it has already proved you wrong
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>>323037258
No he was talking about actual jumping.

He wouldn't have talked about Dragoon Jump because we already saw them using Dragoon Jump when they played it live during the stream.

Aerial combat works like how we see it in the 2013 gameplay trailer and October 2014 gameplay footage, Tabata had already mentioned multiple times that is still in the game, it just wasn't in the demo
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>>323032451

>changing the combat was a bad choice
*tips nostalgia goggles*
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>>323037356
The demo which got worldwide praise and everything about the game looking exceptionally good? Ok
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>>323034232

This but unironically.
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>>323037443
I dunno, XV-kun, I find it hard to believe that his normal jump will become that high, unless birds fly pretty low to the ground in this game. And by the "2013 gameplay trailer" do you mean where he warps around on the tower? I hope that wont be clunky.
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>>323036176
No I just didn't want the sonyggers to attack me with
"ITS DAH POWER OF DAH PS4"
"ITS IN ALPHA NOT DUN YET"
"WILL RUN AT 120FPS"
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What if Noctis looked like this?
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Why isn't this coming to PC again? Geniunely wondering since the game seems to be pushing consoles to their limit. And also because SE is putting everything on PC these days. Why not their biggest, heaviest game of the decade?
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>>323037985
that will happen no matter what you say when you talk about PC and Playstation exclusives.
I hope it comes out for PC some time later down the line, but I really fucking hope it runs at a solid 30fps at least, because if it dips in the fast paced combat it will become almost unplayable.
30fps is already pretty low for an action game where quick reactions are necessary...
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>>323038157

It will after a few years. They've just said there are no plans at the moment because they're focusing on consoles. I'd buy it again on PC/
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>>323037745
Bird height is around Ramuh eye level, I can see some sort of Warp jump, separate from warp itself.
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>>323038157
SE Japan always put their games on console first then they only consider PC later
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>>323038279
t-that sounds pretty cool
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>>323016145
1, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 13 are all better than 7 and all better than 15's demo.
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>>323038391
How can you "consider" a PC release? Seems like a no-brainer. FFVII sold a million on PC. Yes, that old ass game from '96 that was put on Steam almost two decades after release. That one sold a million.
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>>323038126
I hope when Noctis is king that he wears that cloak.
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>>323036797
That's all your imagination and prediction, not the actual facts. The only thing that Tabata said is that Crush, Ravange, Counter, etc. will be implemented as a sub-system for each weapon. It could equally mean that all the weapon will have their Crush-Ravage-Vanquish part, like it was in the demo but without switching the weapons automatically. Nothing was ever said about "attack modes"
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>>323038557
It's just how it is.

First and foremost their games sell most on consoles so that is where their efforts are mostly put, they only do PC stuff later because some people would want to double dip or maybe some people were waiting to see if they would put it on PC
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>>323038519
>either 10 or 13
>better than 7
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>>323038519
>13

Fuck off Lightningfag
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>>323038580
All this talk of Noctis being king makes me think there will be a time skip at some point in the game.
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Why is this fanbase full of insufferable, nostalgia babies?
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>>323038519
>10, 12, 13 are all better than 7
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>>323039240
It's old.
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>>323039240
Because every FF is basically like a new IP but within a single franchise so it just breeds cancer and arguments over kids saying their toy is better than the other
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>>323038519
>bait was already shit
>better include a demo in a list of complete games

come on son
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>>323039240
If you're talking about the FF7 remake it's because we all know it will suck just like the rest of the compilation. If you're talking about FF15, autists hate change and just want the same game over and over again.
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>>323038519
But the demo is better than all those games.
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>>323016145
>nomnomnom
>luv all dis dick
>slurpslurrp
>yum
>;^)

This is you OP
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>>323039365

I've played a few Final Fantasy games, but I'm glad I didn't play them as I was growing up.
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>>323039509
You are the only one thinking about cock slurping, nice projection.
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>>323039509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-T511uNMk

This is you anon.
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I'm hoping other FF games use the engine to their full advantage. I suppose FFVII and KHIII are being built around more enclosed areas so that's why they're using unreal I suppose.

I'd love it if the series took a break from advancing past XV, and remade some of the older games - but with XV's scope. I'd love to see IV, V and VI with huge, living fantasy worlds.
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>>323017064
Lots of publishers and devs love Uncharted/Last of Us' presentation - seamless gameplay/cutscene transitions with movie like quality.

I hate LoU/Uncharted for the gameplay, but I can see this working in say - an RPG pretty well.
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>>323040307
First, let's see if they can get it to work with FFXV.
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>>323040307
>wanting SE to waste time on remakes instead of new experiences
This is the retard mentality that enables movies like Star Wars Ep 7.
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>>323040983
Why is it okay for people to be clamoring for a remake of FF7 then? The original game is fine as it is, no remake is going to correct everything wrong with it.
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>>323016145
You can't prove yourself correct either.
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>>323041272
Personally, I don't think there is a point in the remake. I would rather if SE made a new game instead. I never understood why nostalgiafags wanted a remake so badly when their unreasonable expectations are just going to turn them down.
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>>323041521
>I never understood why nostalgiafags wanted a remake so badly when their unreasonable expectations are just going to turn them down.

They don't. The only people who want the remake are those who hated the original game and somehow believe a remake will magically fix everything wrong with the story and characters, and those who never played the original game because "muh graffix". I didn't like FF7 growing up and thus have no nostalgia towards it, but now I think it's a perfectly fine and well-made game that's still enjoyable for any JRPG fan even in this day and age.
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>>323040983
You mean a good movie similar in some aspect to good past movies but at the same time a new experience with new elements? Heaven forbid a franchise keeps its identity.
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>>323041914
But that's not true. Those that screamed for a remake for all these years were the die-hard VII fans. Those that hated it just ignored it. It makes no sense why people who hate a game would beg publishers to remake it.

>>323041990
No. It's a copypaste meant to please nostalgiafags by playing it safe to the point where the movie becomes a hollow shell of its past.

This is the generation of manchildren. Refusing to grow up but instead cling unto childhood as an utopian way of living. People think that by consuming the same products they consumed as kids, they can attain that precious sense of childhood long lost to them. But that's not true since we're not children and we require something more to reach that same sense of fulfillment kids easily reach. People can't let go of the past. You see that in FF threads all the time.
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>>323016145
>Gay walking and running simulator
>The best FF to date

Ok.
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>>323042467
Yeah, the "fans" who never actually played the original game and only know of Cloud and co. thanks to Kingdom Hearts and the compilation faggotry.

>Those that hated it just ignored it.

More like they went above and beyond the call of duty to shit on it everywhere and anywhere they could. I've seen people like >>323032929 shit on the original FF7 while saying that the remake will fix everything wrong with FF7 and the original game is no longer worth bothering with.

As a die-hard VII fan I wish this remake never happened, I wish all the so-called "fans" crying non-stop could just fuck off already and take the haters with them.
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>>323042901
>hurr le meme!?!
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>>323043196
Well to be fair the greatest appeal of final fantasy since the ps1 era has always been the fact that it had a higher budget (better gfx, orchestrated soundtracks, FMVs etc.) than most other rpgs at the time. It's only natural that its fans would grow up into people that demand a remake because the graphics are not up to par anymore.
Once you take out the high budget presentation all final fantasy games are pretty standard rpgs, not bad but nowhere near the best
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>>323026367
I've never seen this image before, and it made me think of an FFXIII-2 where, instead of the crap we got, the group + Serah and Dajh explore Gran Pulse.

Why couldn't we get something like that? Why couldn't they have built on the first game like Uncharted 2 did, rather than scrapping everything that was good, dooming the entire series to mediocrity?
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>>323032331
It's a catoblepas, senpai
>(from the Greek expression kαταβλέπω katablépō meaning "to look downwards") is a legendary creature from Ethiopia, described first by Pliny the Elder and later by Claudius Aelianus. It is said to have the body of a buffalo and the head of a wild boar. Its back has scales that protect the beast, and its head is always pointing downwards due to its head being heavy. Its stare or breath could either turn people into stone, or kill them.
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>>323034362
Come ooooon fundoshi costumes.
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graphics suck. camera is awful. locking on to enemies is cumbersome

combat is convoluted. At once being too easy with almost automated attacks and at the same time blocking, dodging, warping and other attacks don't feel natural. What little strategy FF had in its combat before seems gone due to the "hold square and point in direction" approach. Basic combat has no depth

Although the game is open world and you can see your enemies and choose to fight them or not - this simply isn't the case. Almost wherever you are annoying airships will drop robots to fight you. Like real time random battles.

I've played the game only a little but i'm not impressed.
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>>323043214
You see, this looks cool. But in practice it's a lot of

>what the fuck is going
>who am i attacking
>where am i

especially since you didn't even lock on.
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>>323017049
They said they didn't wanna make 7 again until a final Fantasy game topped the hype that 7 made. Also waited until people actually wanted it
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>>323048926
basically this is my main issue with battle system. very pretty unreadable mess.
hell, even mmo raids look simplier to figure out that ffxv shit
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>>323037063
>bird Height

That sounds cartoony as all fuck
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>>323016145
What are the chances that this will be good when it's supposed to be xbox huge open world?

We've seen how japanese devs do open world ala MGSV.
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>>323017061
turn based combat in final fantasy was never good 7 is the best because it had an enjoyable story world and characters
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>>323051220
Don't forget music
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>>323050637
literally every final fantasy has an open world
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>since 7
You mean 12?
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>>323050637
XVs open world is not like MGSV

XVs open world is basically just FF1-9 style world map just in 1:1 scale.
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>>323051330
that too
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>>323016145
>game coming out right after FF13

>not having a 90% chance of being fucking garbage like 13

I'm hoping for the best too, OP, but let us not be delusional now. Back to school with you.
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>>323051373
An overworld is not the same as openworld senpai
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>>323051546
FF14 already came out you fucking faggot.
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>>323051565
its the same thing with less detail open worlds and overworlds were made to do the same thing
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>>323051546
FF14 2.0 main/side stories make for the best FF plot since 7
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fanart of FFXV-kun banging Kagari, when while Tabata fapping to them, when?
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>>323051728
>MMO shit

>>323051859
I highly doubt that, sorry.
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>>323052042
did someone save the script for it?
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>>323051546
XV is already better than anything in FF13, and the entire design philosophy from the beginning was that it is the opposite of FF13.

There is more freedom and better gameplay etc in the FF15 demo than anything in FF13, and everything we know about the story, world, characters, setting, lore etc, only prove it will be good and among the best FFs

FF13 has nothing to do with this game, it's not being made by the FF13 dev team, when will you fucks learn this shit already? Different FFs are made by different dev teams.
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>>323052408
Hi, FFXV-kun.
How it's going? How many people you managed to convince of preordering of game which SURELY comes in 2016?
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>>323052519
not him but how is he wrong? 13 was complete dogshit anything is better
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>>323052408
I hope you are right anon. Only time will tell.

At least it can't be worse than 13.
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>>323052519
>It won't come out in 2016 for some reason!?
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>>323052106
Their first MMO is the most profitable Final Fantasy game for SE. Hell, FFXI has been around for 14 years now and is still pretty strong.

>>323051859
XI's stories are way better.
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>>323052703
He is not wrong, yet he is not right cause all his "facts" build on PR speak.
"they said" has no power at all, cause PR will say anything to get people to preorder and hype game which they didn't played.
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>>323016145
No.

Although I am moderately excited to get this.
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>>323016145
>you can't prove me wrong
If the demo didn't, it's your problem at this point.
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>>323053170
this.
XV-kun keeps stating facts about the game and then says "Tabata said this", and then believes it to be 100% true.
>Tabata mentioned back in February that Noctis can jump higher than bird height
>believes this is actually for the normal jump
If he can achieve that and you can go back to earlier zones, which you will be able to since it is a seamless open world, because Tabata said so , you would be able to completely break those zones. All the zones that are carefully crafted to have loading blocks between them will have to be designed to take into account that Noctis will be able to jump 10 meters or more directly up into the air.
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I can't get over their retarded idol-tier hair.
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>>323054152
>seamless open world,
really can't believe this bit after seeing all invisible walls and whole idea that you can ride only on a road with a car as far I'm aware.
Probably just big locations connected to themselves, that's about it.
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>>323054623
What invisible walls?
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>>323051546
>7 years later
>right after
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>>323054241

ok
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>>323037268
i see you missed the point entirely

FFXV is also not open world

holy fuck you're retarded
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>>323054682
MMO trash doesn't count, so yeah.
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>>323054623
The car isn't the only way to get around. So far they've confirmed chocobos, trains and boats. The Just Cause devs are helping them with airships too.
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>start up the demo for the first time
>my literal homosexual brother is watching me play
>opening cutscene
>he says "this is gay"
>leaves the room

I kekd
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>>323054681
You can't go further into the lake (in a middle I think? with huge animal in a middle) and to any interesting location in demo, just constrained in small area surrounded by wood.
Sure that is made probably cause it's demo, but I starting to think that they'll limit that "openworld" as much as possible.
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>>323016145
Fun Fact: The vast majority of people's favorite Final Fantasy's also happen to be the first one they played.

This is why most of the Internet's favorite FF is either 6 or 7. I don't think we'll see anyone claim 13 is their favorite FF, however. Instead we've gotten to the point where someone lived through their entire lifetime without a FF game releasing that wasn't a complete pile of shit.
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>>323054907
Even if you ignore the MMOs X and XII are totally different even if one came out "right after" the other.
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>>323055239
he is right tho
game is literally fujoshi pandering
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>>323054623
There is no "invisible walls" and you can drive off road, we've already seen them driving off road.

Swimming was only locked out of the demo, it's in the full game as already stated
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>>323016145
I like your style, dude.
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>>323054623

*connected seamlessly!

it is a big seamless open world!! It is a lot of huge open zones, all of which are bigger and better than the one in Witcher 3! Tabata said this!

As you drive from one zone to the next, the next zone will be loaded while you are in smaller transitionary zones. A programmer on the team said this but Tabata didn't want to say it!

So yeah! It is a big completely open world made up of a lot of closed zones that you can travel between you fucking retard. When will you guys learn!
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Why did they have to use a mary sue graphics engine
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>>323055393
>they said so, but never shoved any gameplay to back it up, longer than 2-3 seconds
ok, FFXV-kun
>>323055515
You forgot
>it's in a full game as already stated
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>>323054849
FFXV is factually open world you underage fuck.

>Tabata told 4Gamer that the game can be considered an open world RPG since areas are seamlessly connected. This is related to the narrative focus of travelling by car, which is meant to evoke road movies and the appeal of travelling by road.

>The open world aspects will not be at expense of character growth and plot progression, though. While the design documents call it an “open world-style Final Fantasy,” it is not purely such because the point isn’t to just wander off to wherever aimlessly, Tabata said.

>The world is essentially fully explorable, according to Tabata, but there is still a specific path to go down for the narrative to progress. Tabata cites Skyrim as the sort of game Final Fantasy XV isn’t. You don’t just wander into a place, go get a random quest, and away you go into the ether. It’s more like Red Dead Redemption in that there are clear objective markers on the map to help players remain cognizant of how to keep progressing core storyline without getting lost on tangential stuff.

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-development-open-world-combat-demo

>>323054152
Except jumping high has nothing to do with loads, as Tabata already stated that they could already even do airships at that same height too which is why it got mentioned and he accidentally let slip that Noctis can jump that high which was a spoiler.
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>>323055515
[citation needed]
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>>323055515
We've already seen the fucking maps which show it is more than 10x bigger than Witcher 3 you cuck.
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>>323016145
I can't prove you right either
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>>323055668
Except we've literally seen them driving off road, multiple times.
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>>323056038
>few seconds of footage
>what are cutscenes
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>>323055393
>swimming in the full game
SOURCE. I NEED IT.
Last I heard Tabata said they couldn't do swimming since it would've been too costly and time consuming to, at this point, retool their combat system to work underwater as all the animations/scripting they would have to build from the ground up would simply set their development schedule back tremendously.
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>>323056243
Don't quote me on this but I think that was talking about combat underwater and not just swimming.
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>>323056137
Nigger do you even fucking know what a cutscene is? That is literally them driving the car off road and then getting out of the car right in the same fucking area as the demo grasslands

https://youtu.be/4zqxNNkSPa0
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I've been wondering, will this game have more than 4 party members? shit, i want my comfy 8 characters to select
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>>323056243
Nah he said that about underwater combat, not swimming.

He later stated that there is swimming and there are also quests that involve swimming to get rare weapons
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>>323056489
>symbol to park a car
>special place to park damn car
ok, I was wrong on chocobo part, maybe, but that video only proves that car is basically was travel from point A to point B with no direct control over it.
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>>323056427
I remembered reading it as swimming being taken out completely since they couldn't get combat working. I do so hope they allow us the ability to swim since they showed Noctis doing as much during the XV re-reveal when he encountered Leviathan. Swimming is sick shit and creeps me out.

>>323056601
Fuck, really? I haven't been keeping up on the Active Time Reports for awhile, so this honestly warms my heart if it's true.
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>>323028351
>implying FFX wasn't godtier
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>>323056585
Yes but Noctis, Ignis, Gladio and Prompto are always in the party, anyone else joining the party is temporary and at different points in the game.
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>>323025462
Not even close. FFXIV blows all others out of the water in the boss theme department:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZHfOs2XOc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_3hRm7K8g
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>>323056585
You're gonna get your four party boyband and you will like it.

With the odd guest member now and then.
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>>323056585
what the point, you can't control them anyway. there is no even equipment system aside of weapons.
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>>323056764
>symbol to park a car
Those symbols are fucking everywhere

It's already confirmed you can manually drive it you dumb fuck, you can even see in that video that they are swerving when going to park

Are you seriously this fucking stupid?

Both manual and auto matic driving is how the car works, you can manually drive off and on road, and if you don't want to do that you set destinations and Ignis drives there

Manual driving is literally 100% confirmed
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>>323028351
>VIIfag here
VIII was great
IX was arguably better than VII
X was linear hallways before it was cool but had one of my favorite battle systems
XI was a treasure
and XII was nearly as Godtier as VII.

So I disagree.
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>>323056996
>Manual driving is literally 100% confirmed
you keep telling that to yourself
maybe with enough effort your words will came true
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>>323057115
but it is confirmed you fucking idiot
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>>323056889
Except you can, you give them commands from a menu

>there is no even equipment
Yes there fucking is, there is equipement, armor gear, weapons and accessories, this has all been confirmed, why the fuck are you lying?

The demo even has the fucking equipment menu in it, just because it was greyed out in the demo does not mean there is no equipment, it means it wasn't in the fucking demo

Jesus fucking christ you people are such cunting retards incapable of any critical thought or common sense
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>>323056870
Heavensward saved this game's soundtrack.
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>>323057239
of course it is confirmed
everything is confirmed.
why anyone would lie to people who want to preorder their videogame?
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>>323051431
Hmm I like the sound of that
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>>323057115
>>323057386

Nigger why the fuck are you in denial? Manual driving was literally confirmed multiple times.

Do some basic fucking research instead of being an ignorant cunt

https://youtu.be/JMRuQMJ8OPs?t=40m38s
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>>323016145
>those fucking names
I just can't take it seriously.
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Guys. GUYS.

What's the status on a pilotable airship? Last I heard Tabata said they were trying to get a working module up and running, and that the team was even collaborating with the Just Cause development staff to look further into making such a thing a reality.

Will I finally get my airships back, /v/?
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>>323057386
>hurr the devs are lying
I'm sorry MGSV was so disappointing but you can't just assume everyone's lying about everything.
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>>323055393
>Swimming was only locked out of the demo, it's in the full game as already stated

Basically there are a lot of other things competing to be implemented in the game, so we need to set priorities for everything, that is one of the concerns here, and underwater action really is quite labor intensive to get right. Going for that would instantly create an enormous amount of work. For example, if we take just moving around, even just for Noctis on his own, we would need to customize the physics programming to account for water resistance, as well as set up new movement motions and so on. If we needed to him to be able to dive underwater, we would need to add a special control system.
That said I think it could be done.

https://youtu.be/6u3jd4IyMso?t=9m50s
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>>323057873
why I can't assume when that's their work?
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>>323057386
>We've literally seen the HUD options stating manual or auto driving options where the in game text itself says you can take the wheel and manually drive

>HURR THEY ARE LE LYIN!?!?!?!?
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>>323057869
I want airships too dude, i really hope

ANd not only airship, maybe planes too, like, we are in a modern era for fuck sake!

OR BETTER
FLY ON A BLACK CHOCOBO
HOLY SHIT THE POSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS
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>>323057757
Yes because Cloud, Squall, Xexat, Ffamran "Balthier" mied Bunansa, Basch fon Ronsenburg, Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca, Vossler York Azelas, Larsa Ferrinas Solidor, Foris "Reddas" Zech are the epitome of good names.
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>>323058313
he didn't compare it to the other FF games. Why are you doing it?
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>>323058212
I would -love- to see black chocobos make an appearance, man. I feel like they'd be less of a strain on the engine to boot since you can justify lowering their max altitude and speed.
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>>323057869
Yes there is a pilotable airship.

Tabata stated there is a sidequest where you obtain one

Airships are confirmed, whethere they will be done by the time the game is out is another question, that is why Tabata has said if they don't get it done by the time the game is out then they will just be a free download as a patch, otherwise if they do get them done then they will be in the game like normal.


You can already warp into enemy airships by the way
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>>323058313
They're all ridicolous, but those four use words pulled straight from a latin dictionary. its the non plus ultra of cheesy, a middle schooler on Deviantart would be embarassed to use them
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>>323058642
>Tabata stated
ok
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>>323058642
you have already lied once about swimming, post sources or gtfo xvkun
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>>323058538
Black chocobo's are already in the game, they are running around in the demo.

Tabata hinted that there is something special about them compared to normal yellow chocobos you rent
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>>323058642
I heard him mentioning airships as possible DLC, but don't remember hearing the word 'free.'

If that were the case that'd be pretty hype. I'm honestly considering going on media blackout with this game at this point and just letting whatever be, be. Airships or not, and swimming or not, just from what I played from Duscae I'm completely sold on the title. I know it's super shill, but having waited a literal decade for this game, it'd have to look absolutely abysmal for me to not buy it day one.
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>>323030058
Witcher 3 is one of Tabato favourite games.
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>>323058968
and even if he isn't lying, we still can't 100% trust what Tabata is saying because it is marketing.
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>>323059127
of course it's just a meme
great creators never lie to us!
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>>323058823
Nigger all the names of the characters are latin in XV

It's not any fucking different in concept than any other character named with a theme to their name, like Cloud Strife being named that way because his life is full of turmoil like a cloud sky and that was to contrast with Zack Fair who's life is more easy going like clear skies

Noctis's full name basically means the light of the night sky which a reference to Romeo and Juliet, Juliet refers to Romeo as a light which illuminates the night sky, and that is to do with Luna's full name basically means moon shining in the night, which had Romeo refer to Juliet as the jewel which shines in the night

There is a heavy Shakespeare theme in FFXV, taking aspects from Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet for the story elements.

Every Promptos full name bascially means Quick silver which is another name for Mercury, Mercutio is Romeo's playful friend much like Prompto is to Noctis, and Mercutio comes from Mercury, so it's clear where the connections are

Spout "le deviantart" memes all you want, you will still be a fucking retard
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>>323059052
I think he did mention he would want it to be free DLC later down the line if they decided on doing it. We'll see if that will be true, or if Square Enix sees a chance to earn some extra money.
I think it was said during TGS 2015 ATR, but I can't remember exactly where in it. I'll link ya to it if you wanna see if you can find it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnzfHBVJvo
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>>323058968
No Tabata literally said that there is swimming and also that there is a sidequest that involves swimming to get a rare weapon too
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>>323059846
>>323059114
>>323059071
>>323058642
Y'know, it's wishful thinking, but considering how good Yoshi-P has been about listening to fan feedback for FFXIV, and in extension seeing how well-received that fan-to-dev-discussion has been to SE as a whole, I don't think it's totally unlikely that Tabata would try to take a Witcher 3 approach with adding free content to FFXV through patches. And I don't think it's totally unlikely that SE would be against such a thing.

I feel like SE's big thing over the past year or two has been about regaining consumer trust since the massive failure that was XIV 1.0 and the lukewarm critical reception of the XIII series.

Between ARR, Type-0's localization, and XV's constant attempts to stay transparent with its development, I really feel like SE is trying hard to win us back. So this idea that we might get these features as patch updates isn't the craziest thing. Especially when you think how much consumer trust SE outright NEEDS for us to truly believe they can pull off something so insanely ambitious as a FFVII Multi-Part Remake.
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>>323016145
The game is literally made for fujoshits. Even if it's good, I can't fap to it. Reminds me of Vagrant Story, actually.
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>>323059538
>this one guy lied so everyone is lying meme?!
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>>323059846
I'll be sure to take a look later on.
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>>323059851
right. Of course he did. And while he said that, he also gestured with his eyebrows which in ancient japanese means that all of the lakes and seas of the game will be divable. Who needs to citate what they state.
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>>323060041
Yeah, screw western bullshit. Japanese devs won't let us down!
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>>323016145
nah

they fucked up by trying to make it so realistic, those anime outfits only look good when the character is a fucking cartoon. in real life they just look like retarded faggots.

just look at the fucking mc lmao, he is the type of fag i would point and laugh at if i ever saw them in person
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>>323060008
> I can't fap to it
Yes you can, more grills are confirmed to be revealed in future showings too.
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>>323060008
Vagrant Story had girls anon.

Granted you were staring at a chaplass ass pretty much. So I guess you have a point.
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>>323030625

It's crazy to think 10 years ago when FF12 released, they announced Versus. 10 .... fucking .... years.

I still remember the original trailer and the god tier music, the game looks like it's in a very different setting now or maybe that's because i haven't followed development for so long.

Is a demo still up for this shit?
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>>323059932
Not to mention that they straight up paid for Nier 2, which (and I love Nier), almost certainly is a big risk for them.
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>>323060184
MN9 has made me lose faith in Kickstarter campaigns more than anything else.
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>>323060074
Nigger you were already BTFO about driving, now you are clinging to him somehow not confirming this despite it being a fact.

He outright stated that there is swimming and that there is a sidequest involving swimming

And we've already fucking seen Noctis swimming in Altissia during the Levithan battle which is still confirmed to be in the game
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>>323060184
>hurr this literal business man lied about shit that means every game dev lies!?
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FF has been shit for years now, and this looks like another turd
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>>323060428
Same, also made me stop actually believing anything before I see a LOT of gameplay. No matter how well it pitched and how good track record creator has.
>>323060541
so did you invested into Psychonauts 2, anon? Seems like great value proposition!
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>>323060449
This was a sequence shown while Nomura was still on board as primary director though. There's a chance it may be altered to some degree. Though I will say a Leviathan fight where you don't once hit the water does sound pretty underwhelming.

I think the only smart thing to do here is temper our expectations and just be very pleasantly surprised if any degree of swimming makes it into the game.

>>323060365
That is pretty nuts, ain't it? Hopefully they aren't shy about shelling out the money to recruit God Tier VAs again.

>>323060603
BELIEVE WITH US
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>>323016145
>since
XII exists, nigger. whole ivalice alliance is great. i feel terrible because they canned fortress
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>>323060449
don't confuse me with the other guy. I only talked about swimming.

Post the source to where he says that then. Just post it.

That could easily have been a custom animation in the 2013 trailer. In fact I would rather believe they made that one custom animation for that trailer than they spent the resources and built an entire swimming mechanic AND THEN not include it in the demo later on. Besides, Tabata said in ATR 6.0 (back in May?) all this shit >>323058037
indicating that they weren't anywhere near a usable swimming mechanic, so how the goddamn fuck would they have made one specifically for the 2013 trailere? Don't come here and smack your dicksucking lips at me you lying faggot.
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tfw I'm a whore for anything Final Fantasy and I absolutely love it
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>>323016321
No. You're a bitch. Fuck off if you don't like it. This is the mighty 4chan-/v/. We're the asshole of the internet and proud of it. We do not forgive. Fuck off if you don't like it
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>>323060210
>those anime outfits only look good when the character is a fucking cartoon

Nigger what? Those are real fucking outfits, designed by a real high end expensive clothes designer in Japan.

>just look at the fucking mc lmao
Yes the most normal and grounded looking FF MC to date?

>he is the type of fag i would point and laugh at if i ever saw them in person
You mean he is the type you would look at and then when he see's you looking at him he starts laughing his ass off at how fat and autistic you are carrying your dakimakura in public
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>>323016145
>This will be the best Final Fantasy game since 7

but anon every FF after 7 was better then 7, well up to XIII series
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This game is literally what ive been waiting for.

i am going to fap so hard and so often. It is the opposite of SoL waifu games.
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>>323060931
>This was a sequence shown while Nomura was still on board as primary director though.

Nothing from 2013s story sequences has changed from what we are seeing now, the entire Altissia and Levithan bit is still in the game.

The story changes from Versus to XV happened in 2012 before we saw the E3 2013 trailer, the Levithan battle in Altissia is confirmed by TABATA just 5 months ago to still be in the game and he literally went on to show concept art of the Leviathan and Altissia and talked about how the Levithan battle is one of the most key parts of the entire game
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>>323060931
I don't know m8 too many years of development
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>>323061454
I'm just saying man, go in with tempered expectations and dial your mind back to a place where you would enjoy the game without swimming, and then, in the event that swimming is actually in there, the game will only be that much better.
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>>323060931
>BELIEVE WITH US
LISTEN AND BELIEVE
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Why do people hype up games and movies that aren't even out yet? Just let the damn thing come out first and then see how it is.
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>>323060931
That entire top row was PS3.
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>>323061974
It's just one guy.
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>>323062192
One guy hypes up all those games and movies which aren't even out yet? Where does he find the time to do that?
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are you forced to have an all-dude party or are there female characters?
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>>323061505
I understand. We'll dive in for you and let you know what we find.
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>>323062393
He has a lot of free time to put it lightly.
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>>323016145
Is it that the jpg compression or does the game really look that blurry ?
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>>323062628
>PS4
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I would have an opinion if I could play duscae. I'd pay 10 bucks for it, but I'm not spending 20+ on a game I'd never play for a demo.
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>>323061057
Nigger countless fucking things were not in the demo

Swimming, magic, aerial combat, manual weapon switching, the actual summon system, the actual combo system, equipment, growth systems etc,

Not being in the demo means fuck all, we already know that the demo is outdated and was mocked up with shit that isn't how the final game works, they have stated so many fucking times that things would be in the full game, just not in the demo.

And in the ATR 6.0 he is talking about underwater combat, not swimming
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>>323063173
those swords look fucking retarded
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>>323063173
why they wield mufflers?
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>>323063326
Not as retarded as our mom
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>>323063378
Because their swords simply have too much horsepower.
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>>323063437
ok
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>>323063378
Engine swords, there looks to be an "Engine" or "Motor" variety of weapons of each type, Noctis's default weapon itself is a engine Falchion
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>>323063203
Speaking of summons.
How hype is this motherfucker going to be?
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>>323016145
It will at least be better than the shitpile called XIII. I recently played a little of that. Huge mistake.
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Why the fuck, EVERY fucking FF XV thread has to become a fucking wankfest between Autist-kun and some people who know nothing about this game?

Hopefully, this won't be like that when the game fucking releases.
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>>323063173
here are the boys dropping
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>>323063203
Its fine that a lot of things weren't in the demo, but the context of my post was that you used a trailer from 2013 to prove that they had swimming in the game, which I refuted by saying it could have been in the 2014, whereafter I said that Tabata said in an ATR in 2014 that EVEN THINKING about implementing underwater movement would be a pretty huge undertaking, leaving me to believe that what you used to prove your point with was nothing more than an 3D model animation of Noctis swimming up to the surface and looking at Leviathan.

Where did they state that swimming would be in the final game then? Still waiting on that source.

>And in the ATR 6.0 he is talking about underwater combat, not swimming
The first part of the underwater question answering, which was linked to and even transcribed in a later post, was only about underwater movements. Right after all of that is said, he starts talking about combat. I would understand why that was absent from the full game.
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>>323063871
so till 2018 then?
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all this bitch does it eat
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>>323063871
Because it's not out.

And because what else to do other then not have threads about the game until it comes out or talk about other FF games?
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>>323063995
The game might end up being total shite, but it's confirmed that it's releasing this year. S-E isn't very trustworthy, but they seem very sure of that date.
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>>323064116
>>323064116
I used to eat hot wings everyday just like her. Ended up with Crohn's Disease. No joke.

She needs a more substantial and varied diet or she's gonna develop some serious intestinal issues.
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>>323064335
>I used to eat hot wings everyday
for what purpose
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>>323063662
Judging by Ramuh, Titan and Leviathan it will be hype as fuck, but they will probably show Bahamut off last.
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>>323064156
Man, it's the same arguments over and over, with FFXV-kun always saying things like "nigger you got BTFO" or "fuck you Kagari" like a paranoid and, even if most things he says are true, he makes up or assumes quite a lot about this game.

Autismo at its finest.
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>>323016145
>XV
>best since VII
You have shit taste and should kill yourself
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>>323064230
good then, my ps4 starving for some games.
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>>323063953
Tabata was saying underwater COMBAT is what would a huge undertaking
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>>323016145
>Final Fantasy 7
>Good

Nice job showing you're a faggot.
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>>323064461
I wonder how FFXV-Kun will act when the game actually comes out..
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>>323064335
why? they're not even good. someone told me hot wings were really unhealthy. is this even true?
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>>323064424
For the purpose of putting delicious things in my gob and having addictive tendencies that rival Elvis Presley.
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>>323064653
he'll move onto FFVII remake.
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>>323064757
pls no
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>>323064757
Nah. I really can't see that happen.
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>>323064690
>>323064819
Jesus. This lady is my spirit animal.
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>>323064472
Even the creators of FF7 consider XV to have surpassed 7
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>>323064556
please just shut up and watch that clip again. First part is about Noctis general movement in the water, which would need a new system compared to walking around, as the water introduces an extra dimension of movement.
Right after that they start talking about how difficult it would be to do underwater combat for Noctis and his friends.

https://youtu.be/6u3jd4IyMso?t=9m56s

Right from "Thoughts on moving in the water"
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>>323064807
>>323064895
well either he'll see FFXV as best game ever and will shill it for eternity.
or game will become shit so he end himself.
or, realistically, his contract with PR firm will finally end and he'll be hired for Undertale 2
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>>323065029
He brought up underwater combat even though no one ever said anything about it before and that was the first time underwater combat was ever mentioned in regards to the game

He started talking about only the implementation of underwater combat would be a massive undertaking, he said nothing about swimming itself
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Another game wasted on limited hardware. Whenever I see FFXV gameplay, I just want to enter the settings, insert 4x MSAA and have it run at 60 fps. Instead we get an aliased game that can barely keep 30 fps and the demo not even running 1080p.

Thanks 1,6 Ghz consoles!
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>>323065378

Better than zero FPS on PC.
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>>323063662
IT'LL BE OVERDESIGNED GARBAGE
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>>323065141
>Spoiler
Now that's just horrifying.
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>>323065378
np
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>>323065378

Who the fuck is Cindy?

Also we get it, you can edit settings on a PC.
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>>323065528
It won't

See >>323064429


All FFXV monsters are using the classic Amano and Nomura designs from FF1-7
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>>323065341
>he said nothing about swimming itself
>"If we needed to him to be able to dive underwater, we would need to add a special control system. That said I think it could be done."
He said that there were other components that were competing to be in the game and things should be prioritised accordingly. That he says that it could be done (even on PS1 and PS2) it isn't confirmation that the game will have underwater movement at all, especially if other things are competing for it, and if they don't want to do water combat, why the fuck implement swimming in the first place then.
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>>323065341
>>323065029
From what I'm hearing, it sounds like swimming will very likely be in the game, and even diving is probable, but when it comes to underwater combat, we probably shouldn't get our hopes up.

The way he describes having us move throughout the water, he says it's something that's been implemented in every generation of games since the PS1, and didn't seem at all to say we wouldn't be getting it in FFXV. I'm still tempering my expectations, but I'd say it's a more than good chance that we'll get swimming and even diving in XV.
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>>323065562
I can only imagine how many details are on Cidney that you can't see on its native res. FF12 was a completely different game in HD. I can already spot some freckles on her nose.
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>>323066138
He later said they could put in stuff like underwater combat as dlc or something
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>>323066138

They brought in Avalanche Studios to help with vertical movement.
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>>323025157
>unmitigated catastrophe that is FF13
Oh come on it wasn't that bad.
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>>323066178
Probably something like this
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>>323066174
Bro I don't care if it is in the final game or not, I'm just tired of XV-kun stating "facts" all the time without them being able to back them up.
There are a lot of things that I hope are in the game, and I hope it will be a cool game.

>>323066272
all i heard was the airship thing as DLC

>>323066282
I couldn't find anything about that. Most I heard was about the driving.
>http://www.usgamer.net/articles/just-cause-dev-avalanche-to-pitch-in-on-final-fantasy-xv
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>>323066561
All those pores damn.
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>>323016145
>group of edgelords jocks going around in a convertible
This game is the fujoshits wet dream made reality. You are right to say it will be the most loved FF in tumblr. It will also have the most fanart of all games.
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>>323066681

It's mainly for the airship and underwater.
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>>323066878
yeah but where did you hear that? I can confirm the stuff about the airship, which sounds neat.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/08/07/final-fantasy-xv-are-collaborating-with-just-cause-developers-for-flight-capabilities/
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>>323066138
Yeah, I see what you're saying, Tabata might be hesitant do any water movement whatsoever based on the sheer fact that it might not simply not have a justifiable place in the game. As I believe you(>>323066681) say here, ultimately it isn't the biggest deal if it's in the game or not. I'll just be happy to finally play the game in full after waiting more than ten years to do so. More than that, I'm just amped to be genuinely looking forward to a mainline FF that isn't an MMO.

>>323066681
They mention the possibility of water combat as DLC at about 13:10 in the linked video. But take that as what you will.
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>>323066814
>group of bros from a royal gang going on a quest so that their liege can reclaim his lost kingdom, avenge his father and take back his crystal and birthright

>le egdgy XD
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BOYBAND ROADTRIIIIIIIP!! xD
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>>323067756
huh thats the first time we've seen actual kid npcs
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>>323067241
yep those are all me you are referring to.

I realize that i have been coming off as a bit antagonistic towards the game while i was out to prove XV-kuns bullshit, and i would like to apologize to you for that - I am really excited for it too.
If they ever implement the swimming thing, I really hope they do it right. If they do it as DLC, it would be cool if it was something like a underwater temple or something. Oh shit, imagine if you had to escape from Leviathan while under water
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>>323016321
I know exactly how it will turn out
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>>323067756
>That NPC headtracking Noctis and stepping out of his way.
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>>323068025
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>>323067172

Tabata mentioned it after pax atr.
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Okay.

But has FFX HD for the PS4 been patched yet?
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>>323068460
of course he did
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>>323065378
It'll be on PC.
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>>323068460
it's fine I don't care anymore
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>>323067875
>>323067875
We've all dealt with our fair share of unreasonables, dude, don't sweat it.

But gosh, that'd be sick. I'm hesitant to believe anything Tabata and crew say about DLC at this point, just because Final Fantasy has never really done DLC in a decent or meaningful way, and part of it feels like they might just be saying these things to appease die-hards who want underwater navigation/airships. Things like the article about XV's dev team collaborating with Just Cause's honestly gets me more hyped than anything.

That said, it would make sense for SE to finally get on the train of doing things right when it comes to DLC(and as I stated here:>>323059932, with free patches). Things like full-blown new features and ways to navigate along with completely new areas and dungeons would be absolute insanity.

But it feels like jumping the gun to look that far ahead at this point. I just want my release date, man.
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>>323068682
what was wrong with it on PS4? I was considering getting it
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>>323068691

watch it for yourself

he also mentions vertical element here

http://gematsu.com/2015/08/final-fantasy-xv-team-talks-borrow-tech-from-just-cause-3
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>>323069050
RNG problems, they fixed it

>>323068682
yeah they patched it


by the way FFX/X-2HD has been leaked for coming to Steam
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>>323016145
>j-hipster, boy band/Belieber characters
>muh modern fantasy faggotry, instead of based medieval fantasy
>car faggotry
>action gameplay faggotry, instead of god-tier ATB turn-based
>muh feels game, brought to you by Life is Strange/Tumblr

I just did. At least they didn't make the ridable/drivable mecha summons of FF13. Whoever thought of that mecha summon bullshit should be exiled to the Middle East to be with shit-tier mudslimes, because that was an act of terror.
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>>323068682
I believe it finally was, yeah.

>>323069050
It was something like the random battle scripting was fucked up and it'd be outright impossible to come across certain enemies in the game.
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>>323016145
Does the UI/HUD still look like that or have they changed it?
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>>323069273
>>323069370
cool, thanks. yeah that seems like an important part, seeing as so much of the late game content revolves around finding certain enemies
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