They're going to fuck this game up so bad, or it's just going to be mediocre as fuck. How is this possible?
64 was fucking amazing. Why is it so hard to improve upon it?
Looked at the very least better than everything else they've done since 64, and it was delayed to improve and polish it apparently, so I don't see much chance of it being bad.
Also, 64 was arguably not even better than the SNES game.
It has less levels, less bosses, less difficulty, worse music, etc.
Will Nintendo ever bounce back bros? Seems like 2015 onward has just been blunder after blunder
It's hard to improve on when you'r just remaking Star Fox 64 with the only motivation being to retcon Andross's death. That's also the reason behind the utter absence of OC like fan art and memes for this game, despite how popular the Star Fox series is-- it's basically just Star Fox 64 again, and people have been making OC of Star Fox 64 for 20 years. What does this game bring to the Star Fox canon that's new, aside from the chicken walker gimmick?
This game was just plain ill-conceived. If they were going to reboot Star Fox they would have had to wildly update the series' look in order to distinguish it from the original and make people curious. With the way it is, they might as well have just slapped an HD remaster over Star Fox 64 3D and called it a day, because it's the same story, and the world and characters look the same.
The whole game reeks of just plain being a boring stopgap until they give us a "real" new Star Fox game that moves the franchise forward, rather than retreating back to its safe space like a triggered college student. We did this whole song and dance 20 years ago and we were hoping to see something a bit newer and fresher than Star Fox 64 with gimmicky new controls.
Piratefags have ruined everything
We can only hope for a miracle with the NX
Star Fox Zero comes out a month after Disney's Zootopia. If Nintendo can't sell it in that market, then the game's problems run really, really deep.
I've lost faith in them.
SFZ looks unimpressive.
Zelda will probably be mediocre (remember that SS had a long development period, and is arguably the worst).
And the majority of their WiiU releases have been underwhelming.
XCX was mediocre as fuck.
MK8 was meh.
FFV was shit.
My WiiU is literally a Smash and Splatoon machine. And the fact that two players can't hop online to play Splatoon really ruins the game. As the best part about Smash is me and my buddy hopping online and wrecking scrubs in FG.
>make Star Fox Assault
b-but it's too different, give us a Star Fox 64 sequel
>make Star Fox 64 sequel
b-but lack of innovation
Assault was good, it just lacked polish and more flying sections.
Literally do that with Zero and it's top tier.
Take Assault, make it bigger, and polish the fuck out of it. Replace that stupid chicken walker and the other stupid vehicles with On Foot characters, and you're good.
Hell, take a page from the SW Rouge Squadron games and add a couple other Starfighters, like a bomber and an Interceptor and shit to add more variety to play.
>hurr you can find secrets with the chopper
>hurr, we replaced the on foot characters from Assault with a dumb chicken.
Are both retarded ideas.
Did that stop Splatoon or Smash Bros?
Nintendo loves memes. When they see memes, they see it as a game being a popular topic amongst the internet and a measure of its brand recognition. Star Fox Zero failed to generate any buzz at all after E3-- in fact, I have not seen a single piece of fan art that is specifically based on Star Fox Zero, anywhere-- not even on the "weird" websites.
I can't help but suspect that this is part of why Nintendo pushed it to 2016. If memes and fan art are Nintendo's measure of a successfully promoted game, then Star Fox Zero has been an utter failure right out the gate. They were so worried that the game was going to bomb that they actually went into Christmas 2015 without a tentpole game, which is a decision I doubt they took at all lightly.
The game looks outdated to people who are too young to remember Star Fox 64, and it's not new enough to excite people who have already played SF64 a hundred times. Star Fox Zero was a conceptually bad idea for a game. It's the third time Miyamoto has used this same damn story / scenario since 1993, and Star Fox 64 should have been the last we saw of it.
64 was amazing for it's time, if it came out now it would be ignored, this is the problem that zero has
Also how can you meaningfully progress a series about talking animals in space. If you make it too silly it seems childish and insignificant, and if you make it too serious you're accused of pandering to furfags. There's no future for star fox
It's not a sequel or even a midquel. It's a rehash in the truest sense of the term. They could have at least mixed up the level order and pretended it was a sequel with a new story, but they had to go back to do Star Fox 64 all over again, because when Miyamoto runs out of ideas he just goes back and re-uses his old ones with a new controller.
You do know the chicken walker is an idea from star fox 2 right? no ofcourse you dont because your just parroting opinions you hear on /v/ posted by jaded neets and shitposters. I bet you havent ever played starfox 1, hell I doubt you played 64 or even have the systems to play them on
>More isn't always better
That's a nice platitude and all, but Star Fox's greater number of levels also happen to be higher quality overall than Star Fox 64's levels.
If Star Fox 64 were nothing but levels on par with Area 6 and Macbeth, it would be the better game, even with less content and challenge and worse music, but unfortunately it has dogshit levels like Sector Z and Solar that seriously drag it down.
I know the Chicken Walker is from 2. That doesn't make it a good idea though.
The on foot sections of Assault was moving the game forward. The multiplayer in that was top tier. If you expanded on that, the game would be gold.
Did YOU know the on foot play came from 64?
Shut the fuck up then.
More and better on rails, with more plished and balanced on foot segments, and you hot a winning combo.
Add different starfighters a la RS, and we've got a WiiU classic.
Instead, we're gonna rehash SF64.
It's a pity too, cause witg PG on board, SFZ vould have been an insaneoballs Arcade shooter that took legit skill, but with Miyamoto on the scene, it's guaranteed to be slow paced casual shit.
>My WiiU is a Smash machine
>MK8 was meh...
Nigga you are so wrong its not even funny. MK8 is the second best Mario Kart, only topped by DS, and yet here you come playing Smash 4 like a motherfucker
Holy hell get a hold of yourself and have some self-respect
>it's a miyamoto hypes up new controller while sakurai hypes up old controller episode
Sadly I feel like Star Fox is in better hands when it's kept away from Miyamoto. He was more closely involved with Command than he was with Assault, and look how it turned out. It's one of those series where the creator may have had a brilliant idea, but it should have been handed off to younger, more excited hands to keep the series going.
Miyamoto ran out of ideas after Star Fox 64 which is why he stopped overseeing the series directly. The only reason he's doing Zero is because he feels like it's been long enough since Star Fox 64 came out that he can make it again without it feeling old and recycled, but he wasn't entirely correct.
Star Fox 64 was Miyamoto's ultimate Star Fox game, which is why when pressed to make another one, the best he can come up with is to just make the first game again except on another console with a different controller. If they'd given the series to Namco again, we probably would have gotten something in the vein of Assault except bigger, better, and more polished with a new story, and that would have sat just fine with me.
I can't really say I'm excited for Star Fox Zero, because talking about it just makes me feel nostalgic for the old games that I actually had fun with.
>Seems like 2015 onward has just been blunder after blunder
>Splatoon and Super Mario Maker extremely well recieved
>blunder after blunder
I know this is a Sonygger thread but at least do SOME research.
1% of the world is degenerate pedophiles, if that.
Unless you include Muslims, but they probably didn't buy Splatoon anyway.The only reason Splatoon reached such memetic levels is because of how autistic and perverted Nintendo's fans are. I guess that Star Fox Zero would be a bigger success if it had more macro, vore and diapers in it.
>Also how can you meaningfully progress a series about talking animals in space.
2 would have done just that way back in 1995 had they bothered to release it. A lot of the ideas it brought to the table feel fairly unique and fresh even today.
I don't know of any other games that combine air combat and real time tactics, and it even has some roguelite elements, which are very "in" right now.
>Splatoon was a fluke
*This statement was sponsored by NeoGAF.
Even Platinum had no faith in the project once Miyamoto started sharing his ideas for the game. They couldn't even be assed to put their C team to work on it, so they created a D team of new employees just to make the game. This game is getting Platinum's sloppy seconds because Miyamoto's vision failed to inspire Platinum to put their best effort into it.
We know for a fact that Platinum can do better than this if their heart was in it, but they did not have a free hand so none of their top talent wanted to work on it. To them, this is just another hired-gun licensed project that they're doing for a paycheck, because it's Miyamoto's game and not theirs.
Look at their track record for licensed games. Legend of Korra was shit, and Transformers was pretty much "meh it doesn't suck I guess." Star Fox Zero is basically a licensed game with Miyamoto barking orders at them from Nintendo about how the gameplay has to be. They're not into it, and they put their least skilled developers to work on it.
SMM was mediocre as fuck.
Only reason I still have it is cause it's the LE and can get a lot of cash for it in the future.
Splatoon is an alright game. Good game in fact, but very flawed, such as:
Map rotations every two (?) hours (it really kills the game for me, makes it boring after a while - how much fun I'll have depends on what maps are on rotation)
Inability for two local players to go online (I actually have friends, and despite Splatoon being fun, we never play it cause one would have to sit out, you'd think that Nintendo, who always pushed for local over online would understand that gaming with a friend makes a game 10x more fun)
Limited campaign mode (bosses and challenges were a lot of fun, but it was very short)
Lack of singleplayer content, like challenges, a stadium mode, and more (the very first Smash did it, why can't Splatoon? Here's to hoping the sequel becomes the Melee of the franchise)
Regardless of all this, it's still good, however, like I said, it's the ONLY good game amid the sea of mediocrity.
I always imagined Starfox's natural evolution would have turned into something like AC Assault Horizon, where it blends open air dogfighting with on rails cinematic stuff seamlessly.
It didn't work for AC because its always been about realistic dogfights and such, but I think it would be great for SF.
Speak of the devil and he shall appear.
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a game before throwing it into stores.
I expect effort, love and care being put into a beloved franchise. I don't think that's too much to ask for. If Platinum couldn't put their best into Star Fox Zero, Nintendo should have went to a studio who could, or offered Platinum working conditions and a deal where they would want to put their best people to work on the game. I am guessing that Miyamoto's close involvement is part of why their more experienced developers wanted no part of it, because they wanted more creative control.
>take a photo of my WiiU games but speak my opinion on SMM
>clearly he must be a Sony fanboy
Keep on sucking Nintendo's cock then. I'm still not getting an NX. WiiU is the end of it for me. They proved they couldn't live up to their promises when their fans backed them up.
This game would have been better on a real console: the Sony Playstation 4.
Hopefully this game bombs and stupid nintendo goes second party to us epic Sonybros. Let's face it, we deserve it.
arwing transformation has many things over assault's on-foot gameplay
>much less like a generic tps, keeps the star fox series distinct
>don't have to search for wherever you left your arwing or landmaster or whatever, instead you are more or less both at all times
>switching between walker and arwing for shooting shit and speeding around the level, or to change strategies, is satisfying, instead of moving slowly and fighting everything the same way on foot all the time
>allows for more verticality and freedom in level design
I'm just going to make my own Star Fox game, with blackjack and hookers. Then I'll replace all the characters with OC Donut Steels so I can sell it on Steam and PSN. Mark my words.
No, far inferior to all the Mario Ronhack makers Nintendo shut down
It's a remake of a fantastic game, and it's been dumbed down. Doesn't count.
Hahahahahahaha, no. FFV was better, and FFV was mediocre as fuck.
This was the game I was most hyped for this year, and the biggest let down.
-combat was good
-world feels shallow despite it's size
-Skells ruin combat and exploration
I got to chapter 10, and still haven't bothered to finish. I expected Xenogears WiiU... the first Xenoblade was way better
>Mario Luigi Paper Jam
Hahahahahahahaha. I hope you're not being serious.
Foot missions were not conceptually bad, they just weren't well implemented. They weren't really any worse than any other average TPS at the time, but they were just that-- average. Unless it's Max Payne, Psy-Ops or Mercenaries, a 6th generation TPS is not going to age well. The controls were alright (if you chose the twin stick option), but the level designs were bland and empty, and usually involved wandering around until you found the enemies you missed after a certain point.
That picture is definitely mine, and no, it's not the SE. They sell the regular version on store shelves here too. When I tried to cash it in, the guy at Game told me I'd get a lot more for it on Amazon, as he was just gonna take the plastic case inside, and none of the extra stuff.
>and the biggest let down
HOL' UP SONYFRIEND
what the fuck is that contraption in the bottom right corner?
The Last major Platinum effort with Kamiya involved on WIi-U ended up one of my favorite games of all time, so I'm sure this'll be fine.
You people look too hard for failure where it isn't there.
I know there's a TF2 mod for Star Fox, but I'm not sure if it ever came out, or if it's at all related to what you're thinking of.
I'm thinking more of a single-player focused game with a narrative. There would be a split-screen co-op mode and maybe online modes for co-op and dogfights with competetive and horde mode if we were to put it on Kickstarter, and had enough money to hire someone to develop the netplay and make it not suck. The main focus though would be to make a narrative-based game with on-rails scripted missions that can be replayed with new challenges and objectives.
Kill yourselves Nintenbabies.
Cocksucking retards like you are the reason Nintendo sucks these days.
This is not a major effort by Platinum-- in fact, they're putting so little effort into it that they had to hire and assemble a new team because no-one wanted to work on it. And Kamiya is not involved, either. It probably won't be fine.
>They're going to fuck this game up so bad, or it's just going to be mediocre as fuck. How is this possible?
>64 was fucking amazing. Why is it so hard to improve upon it?
OP. Stop. Read what you wrote.
Are you asking a question expecting an answer?
Are you seeking vindication for a question you think is an answer? Or vice versa?
What the fuck are you asking about something you haven't played?
Resident Evil 4 was good. Metal Arms was entertaining but more in a Ratchet & Clank way than as a third person shooter. Gunvalkyrie is a very cool game but if you're coming at it as a new player, the controls can be very frustrating to learn. It definitely doesn't control at all like a modern TPS.
Hmm, maybe cause it's the same person being told to timestamp each time.
>trying to refute a timestime
Just stop dude. You've been proven wrong. Yes, not all Nintendo fans are console-warring retards who blindly defend a company that sunk into mediocrity.
>Later on I spoke with Kamiya, who told me that he has always wanted to make a Star Fox game, but when Nintendo came knocking he was too busy.
Nice aviators fag. Do you pretend to be tom cruise while you suck dick?
>samefagging THIS hard
Just admit you got BTFO and give up already. I can post more timestamped photos if it'll get you to shut the fuck up already.
If you really are so underage that "winning" an internet argument means so much to you, the perhaps consider relocating. This site is 18+
>this game will be bad because I said it will
>waah why will this game be bad
I've never seen anyone this petty and desperate to prove that someone doesn't own a game console after being shown photographic proof. You should probably go 9gag, it's probably more your speed.
>implying post delay looks any better
They didnt improve what needed improvement(horrible low res textures, everything is low poly early PS tier models and the massive jaggies) and instead added even more issues like lighting popins.
>Hmm, maybe cause it's the same person being told to timestamp each time.
I knew it was you ACfag, now I am going to call you a sonygger before you can claim someone did when in fact they didn't
only1 of them is me
Just fucking kill yourself ACfag, metroid Other M is the best game ever and Armored core and Dark souls is for literal casual babies.
There, you can kindly fuck off now.
Also, idk who ACfag is, but if you people are defending Other M, you seriously need to reconsider your lives.
>It's "bully a sonygger" day
Napoleon complex much?
OP is wrong because
>Pigma is not fucking dead for no reason
There, StarFox is fucking Ok.
It's my living room fuckface.
My sister is staying at mine till she finds ger own place to live.
And I don't know who this ACfag you keep bringing up is.
You got BTFO, now find something better to do.
>Also, idk who ACfag is
It's clearly you, an autistic piece of shit.
Go play babbies casual games like armored faggots and Dark casaul babysoul, instead of crying on /v/ about Nintendo you fucking faglet.
>but if you people are defending Other M
Oh I am it's a 10/10 game not surpased by anything since it's conception. It's way better than Super metroid or any other game in the series, a literal fucking masterpiece.
Funnily even the PS3 could do rail shooters at 1080p(more pixels than SF0's 720p+480p) with 2xAA and high quality textures and models.
>Sonyggers have no games
I still dunno who this ACfag is, and here I am hoping someone links me to his posts so I can watch you autists trying to defend the horrible piece of shit that is OM, just to be contrarian.
This is getting sad now sonygger.
Just end it ACfag, OM will reign supreme and your casual bay games will be forgotten as the trash they are.
Also, good job creeping on your sister. Do you sniff her panties and masturbate to the stench of her pussy? Please tell me my dick is diamonds here and I just want to penetrate your anus.
This pathetic anon... just stop.
You clearly got BTFO, and are resorting to samefagging and moving goalposts.
Are you that lonely?
SMM was shit
XCX was mediocre
And Other M is garbage.
Prime is way better, and sadly, I've never played AC nor Souls, but since you're parroting these terrible opinions, I think I'll try them now. Thanks.
Anyways, we're done here.
Enjoy being a shitposting retard and shitting up the thread with your samefagging.
>And Other M is garbage.
Still being salty about having your casual baby games being blown the fuck out by this historically important moment in gaming history.
>Prime is way better,
Keep deluding yourself
>Anyways, we're done here.
Running away already ACfag? Leaving me all blue balled here, I want to fuck your boipussy so bad! I can literally feel your tears on my dick.
>Enjoy being a shitposting retard and shitting up the thread with your samefagging.
So you finally went to your room ACfag, did your sister caught you creeping in her room smelling her panties? Tell me, I wanna know? Furiously masturbating here to the tought of you crying there.
Also Other M is the best game ever and Prime is literal abortion tier games that should be wiped of the face of the planet.
Hahahaha, I'm so glad I didn't leave.
ACfag, you seem like a bro.
>ACfag, you seem like a bro.
It has finally come to this. This is some epic shit, ACfag has reached a new low.
But before you "two" go please could you just show answer my guestion about how your sisters pussy smells like sweet tuna and how are you going to lube up so I can put my throbbing cock inside you.
You are so fucking full of shit, but this is /v/ so please carry on.
She didn't catch me until she saw me mailing them to Japan, and by then it was already too late because I'd already sniffed them and they were in the mailbox.
You only think Prime is the worst game in the series because your intense autism makes it impossible to navigate correctly through 3D spaces, and that is why your mom had to put colored lights on the floor leading from your bedroom to the toilet in hopes that you would eventually stop wetting the bed.
It didn't work though, which is why she kept you in diapers for the last 22 years.It's also why your two favorite non-Nintendo 3D game is Minecraft.
(I should also probably mention that I'm masturbating furiously to furry porn right now, but we can still talk.)
>Bro, you got two different timestamped posts.
posted by the same person known as ACfag.
Now fucking answer my guestion what do your sisters pussy smell like. Do you wank you tiny weewee to the smell of it? Please tell me I just want to penetrate you with my cock lubed up by your tears ACfag.
>(I should also probably mention that I'm masturbating furiously to furry porn right now, but we can still talk.)
Describe to me how you stroke your tiny cock thinking your sister is a pikachu while smelling her panties? Describe it to me ACfag
Also Prime is for literal retards who play Armored baby core. OM shit all over your shitty taste which is entirely composed of toddler games like Casual souls
>SMM was mediocre as fuck.
Any game that involves creativity from the user fails if the user is not creative.
Are you mentally challenged? Maybe try taking off your tinfoil hat and going out for once.
Other M is literally mash buttons to win: the game. It requires an IQ of less than 100 to beat (which is probably why you like it.) You probably played Dark Souls for about 5 minutes and then punched a hole in the wall during a spergfit.
Also, I don't fap to Pikachu. Renamon is the superior yellow monster for fapping. As for how I fap to furry porn, usually I'll grab a few tissues and wrap them around the tip to catch the mess when it comes out, and it also feels really nice. Typically I'll also move the mouse to the left side of the desk so that I can click through pictures on e621 quicker and avoid getting any mess on my mouse.
I just think Nintendo are at their end when it comes to console software.
Iwata the great has passed, Miyamoto obviously is far, far out of touch
None of the other executives have enough say to make take them in a strong direction for software
Ever since this guy came in he just said that he's taking the actual Nintendo EAD teams and putting them on mobile games like what the fuck, no wonder we have spin off shit games
They should have been making partnership and acquisitions like Sony did, now they have Miyazaki and Kojima along with Ueda and Nintendo haven't been expanding at all, and fucking RUINED SMT for us.
Their focus on amiibo was just the biggest sign but I wouuldn't believe it, but now I do. I am afraid that if they release the NX this 2016 people who only just bought the Wii U and going to be AVERSE to it because they JUST bought the system.
>Nintendo loves memes. When they see memes, they see it as a game being a popular topic amongst the internet and a measure of its brand recognition.
And this is totally fucking retarded they will always be regarded as childrens garbage that manchildren regurgitate and not something good, this is why they will remain at 10 million sold because their software is always aimed at the same autismal fanbase and can never expand
>Thinking Adventures or Assault are good Starfox games
It is like you are on a mission to get your opinion discarded.
Considering your shit taste, you just got me extra hyped for Zero by how much you irrationally hate it.
>people bitching about my canon wah
It's a video game. You're not here for the story or lore or whatever in the first place you retards. Read LOTR or even Harry Potter or something if you want that shit.
Except yes now describe to me how you wank your tiny peepee to your sisters pussy
>Other M is literally mash buttons to win: the game. It requires an IQ of less than 100
That's several digits more than anyone who plays Casual souls, the sonyggers delight.
>Renamon is the superior yellow monster for fapping
Okay describe to me how your sisters pussy smells like sweet tuna and how you wish you were inside of here right now as I penetrate your tight boipussy from behind.
I can't believe how easily rused some of you faggots are. That's obviously not the real ACfag, and you're all being taken for a ride by a garden variety shitposter who isn't afraid to take pictures with his phone.
What? When did that happen?
There's plenty of people complaining about the game basically being 64 again, but that's more than just story, it means you're going to be playing the same levels and seeing a lot of the same scenarios and shit for the second time, rather than getting totally new content.
Who's to say I am even a person? A person can be trolled, but an idea can infect every corner of reality like a delicious caramel-flavored cancer. If you kill one ACfag, 3 more of me will sprout up in my place like a many-headed shitposting hydra until it is impossible to unironically like Other M.
>SMM is not shit
>Sonynigger, I bet you don't even own a WiiU
>t-that picture is fake
>uhh, y-you're clearly ACfag, haha, BTFO
>uhh uhh, w-what's y-your sister's pussy smell like faggot
Holy shit, I've never seen someone get BTFO so hard. Nintendo fans really have sunk very low. Pathetic.