UNDERRAIL

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>>322999438

Should I even use a backup weapon as a psi character? I don't find my pistol/smg very useful, but that could change once I play more of the game

Stuck anon are you still around? Think I might found how you can proceed.

>>323000192
A pure psi? Nah. You'll be fine without any weapons. Only thing I keep in my hands is the jackknife.

>>323000228
Which stuck anon? I'm the one with the eternal 2 canisters in Tchort's gate, lost all hope already.

>>323000324
welp guess i am restarting to remove guns and min/max
which crafting skills do I need as a pure psi character?

>>323000464
Not you breh,sorry. I mean an anon that did his CC, Rail Crossing & Foundry quests but never got the go ahead for the Tchort institute.

>>323000519
Electronics mostly, with a bit of biology for your headband, and some Mechanics and tailoring for your armor.

Yes, basically everything. Mostly electronics and mechanics though.

>>323000464
there's supposedly more than three canisters you can find, i know another anon in an older thread found that out when he had your same problem.

<--- Hex Editing anon here, i wish i knew how to modify item stack sizes for ya. Upload your save at the door and ill take a look?

>>323000464
>>323000841
Acshually... I've never done that bit so don't quote me BUT I remember someone mentioning a bug with what you seem to be describing, where if you don't put all 3 canisters at the same time, you get locked out.

underrail sounds like undertale

>>323000915
>i wish i knew how to modify item stack sizes for ya
I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but that shit's easy with CE, is it not? Unless you mean modifying the item limit in the stack.

>>323000915
>>323001147
Thanks for the offer, but it`s hopeless. I`ve already found the fourth canister and used cheat engine to change its stack size to 3, but there`s stiĺ only 2 canistwers after I place them all.

>>323001572
Try sending your save file to Styg. He's pretty cool about these things, and he's helped fix issues in the past.

I'm trying to stay friendly with the faceless this time around, but I can't figure out where this trap door I'm supposed to go through is.

>>323001836
Trap door that leads to Buzzer's? It's 2 maps south of Rail Crossing. Stick to the eastern part of the map and you'll come across a sentry or 2. Trap door itself is in a small shack all the way south of the 2nd map.

>>323000850
I think I finally have a good grip on the game mechanics but I'm still debating including perception purely to see secrets
are any of them good or do they just skip a locked door here and there?

so how long until we hate this game

>>323002084
I can't say for certain myself, as I haven't gotten too far with higher per builds, but I'm pretty sure it's as you say, with extra loot here and there. Feel free to get some other opinions on that though.

>>323002084
If all you care about is the secrets, just get Snooping. A loss of a feat is less important than the loss of 3 Stat points.

Gonna start new character for second full playthrough.

>Psi-Monk?
>>Heavily-armoured, full metal gear + power fists, strength perks
or...
>>Light-as-a-feather, leather gear + probably fucking power fists, speedy perks
... or maybe...
>Sniper + pistol side-arm?
>>Stealth-focus sniper, light riot-gear, traps, speed focus
or...
>>Psionic-soldier sniper, medium riot-gear, little/no stealth, thought-control, grenades

I CAN'T FUCKING DECIDE! Too many options, man. But I love it.
Last run was with a pure thought-control + psychokinesis psyker. Was interesting but dodgy.

that feel when you find the bunker at the foundry, seems like a sweet place to call home

I'm wondering if the previous owner goes to jail and you can see him there or if I should just kill him to take his key?

>Trying to grab the Undertale(tm) hype
>ame your game Underrail

Epic. Simple and really epic.

>>323002084
16 per here, perception seemed neat, but ultimately there's fuck all secrets. Early game there's one secret every 3 screens. mid game every 5, late game every 10

>>323002581
Everything is fun.

Sniper with pistol is my favorite, but I use tac vests instead.

>>323001964
Ah, found it. Totally forgot about this shack. Cheers.

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>>323003247
Look how stylish this overcoat is. Come on, how can you choose tac vests over that, for a sniper?

>>323002581
Try pistols only.

10 DEX at char creation, all pistol feats (especially gunslinger, rapid fire and point shot) and every other point in DEX, rapid reloader mod.

You should be able to hit the 4 AP per shot floor with 7.62, or get 8 shots with 9mm (or 10 with rapid fire and point shot, or even 13 with adrenaline on top of that)

>>323002928
would you recommend taking it down to 3 and adding the points somewhere else?

>>323003421
Tac vest with overcoat has night vision goggles, and if you don't wear those you ain't a sniper.

Muh immersion.

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I dare you to post a better bow

>>323003632
>implying I don't have goggles in my helmet

>>323003553
Not him, but as a pure Psi, I went 10 cont, 10 will, 8 int.

>>323003810
Doesn't match the sprite then.

I can't do with this.

>>323003965
Sprite mods when?

>>323004027
Sprites are expenisve to make, both in money/time, so not soon, if ever.

Not to mention riot gear penalty is a little too high for my liking. Remember, every point less in stealth is less damage from Snipe.

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oi jacks
i cant fucking decide on what offensive skill i should go for
help me out here

>>323003730
>30-61 damage for 25 AP
>can't use armor piercing ammo
>incurs 125% mech resistance
Damn, crossbows are suffering.

My spearhead sniper does around 55-120 for 24 AP, abd has 50% more damage on special attacks. Only 150% crit damage but it's enough to one shot everything anyway.

>make character
>stealth build
>can't stealth past robot in tutorial
>refund game
I feel bad

>>323005135
What've you done before?

>>323005465
tried out some melee and psi

>>323005704
Try guns then. Sniper or AR.

>>323005135
WAKE UP

>>322999438
Fuck off with your stupid tumblr meme game. Toby Fox is a worthless fucking hack and even Touhou is a better bullet hell.

>>323006118

I think you should reread that post anon.

So I just got the ability to clear rubble with TNT, and I decided to go check out the sewers north of SGS. There is a big fuckin lurker base down there, i'm assuming i'm not strong enough to fight these guys off? I keep thinking i'm doing ok against this huge cluster of them, then suddenly I get oneshot by what i'm assuming is a sniper from out of my field of view.

Lv9, pure psi build.

>>323006476
Snipers will be obe shoting you regardless, that's what they are all about, you need to have a good energy shield/anti rifle tac vest/tanky build to survive.

Or kill them first.

>>323006476
nope, avoid them

I could kill them by dropping a molotov on them or setting up traps that enabled me to shoot around a corner but I'm a stealth crossbow

should I have high constitution as a psi build or should I just tough it out and wait for force fields/energy shields?

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>Beds are interact-able items
What is the meaning of this? And how the fuck have I just figured this out after like 80 hours?

>>323007168
high const is very very useful

7 is a good mark

>>323007308
>He hasn't visited the whorehouse in Core City.

Where can I get bottles early game? Nobody is selling them or mushroom brew and I need to burn Depot A to the ground.

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>>323005947

>>323007023
>>323007063
Right now i'm slowly killing my way through the base, as long as I avoid the huge cluster of dudes in the middle I think i'll be ok. Just fucked up some butcher guy and got some nice loot for my trouble. I'm not fucking up some quest by doing this am I?

>>323007483
>implying "no prostitutes" isn't the biggest complaint everyone has with the game
And to be fair I find being able to mess with the covers more out there than having text "sex".

>>323007873
Nope, doing one actually.

>>323007735
Check in dumpsters and barrels. Theres probably at least a half dozen in the slums of junkyard.

>$15 for a game that looks like it came out in 2001
Maaaaaaaan

>Tfw Psionic Mania only takes 14% of my hp, leaving me just within the threshold to naturally regen
Aww yis
Is it meant to do this or am I just at a perfect amount of hp to not fall to 85% when I cast it?

>>323008795
Its graphics style is charming in its own way.

Haven't played yet. Should I go Oddity or Classic modo? Oddity sounds gimmicky and unfun but I wonder if Classic is somehow more of a grind?

>>323009060
Oddity, fag. Says right there it's what the game was designed for.

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>>323009203
no it doesn't

>>323009304
He must've changed it fairly recently then. What patch are you on? 1.0.0.7?

>>323009304
It defaults to normal and oddity, this is because this is what the game is balanced around

play oddity, it is i suppose somewhat gimmicky but its also fun

>>323009862
>>323009829
newest patch, and okay

i don't know what the fuck i'm even doing with all these skill options but i just maxed all psi shit and biology to do psi shit

wish me luck

i hope Snooping and Fast Metabolism aren't awful feats

where do i pirate this indie pixel game?

>>323010012
snooping is ok, fast metabolism is gud for psi builds which you are because dat full psi restore

honestly most of the starting talents are kinda shitty for psi, as soon as you actually get the ability to cast psi spells you unlock a range of good talents you couldn't take at chargen

>>323010082
google.com

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Good thing I don't have autism. Otherwise, these inefficient choices would kill me.

>>323010365
>stats spread to hell
>stacking dodge/ evasion when infused leather can get you max

>>323010596
metagaming is for the second playthrough

>>323010365
You know what I'm most impressed by? Your inventory. Mines a fucking mess,

>>323010596
>>stacking dodge/ evasion when infused leather can get you max
The hell do you mean, "max".

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>>323010725
Just press the sort button

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>>323010891
That's not what I mean.

>>323011006
Drop excess shit off at SGS. In games with STR dependent carry weight and related perks, home trips always the best option.

>that equipment
Shouldn't you be using a utility belt or something?

>>323011006
Dude, everything from you last bolt until your first battery needs to be in a locker. As well as those grenades you aren't going to use. Also those grenades on your belt stack up to 10, why on earth did you split the stack?

>>323011189
I've got crap stashed everywhere, I just never know when I'll need x or y. Been meaning to go through my keys at least, but who knows when I'll do that.

As for by belt, I only use grenades once in a blue moon, so I just take the lifting belt for that 10% mech damage reduction.

>>323011286
The bolts could probably do with being in a locker too. As well as all the keys. And basically everything else. It's not because I keep them on me in case a merchant wants them or whatever. As for the gernades, I really have no idea why they're like that. I didn't split them myself, I'll say that much.

>>323011642
>grenades
You just picked up new ones. They don't add to the stack on your belt, you have to put them there manually.

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>>323011719
And since I'm talking I might as well submit mine for inspection. Why the hell couldn't money stack higher than 999??

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>>323011927
Styg

Is it possible to burn multiple targets when using Burst with the 8.6 special ammo?

how do i rotate the isometric view friends

>>323011927
>All those keys
Buying key ring, 1k stygian.

>>322999438
so underrail is another one of them meme games like undertale?

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>>323012243
>rotate
no

>>323012123
If you really lucky since the chance is only 35%.

I prefer tommy gun bursts with explosive ammo. It's basically a grenade launcher.

>>323012243
You don't.

I'm sorry.

>>323012243
you can't and its the worst thing about the game

>>323012017
>>323011927
>you get 1000 charons
>999 and 1 stack
STTYYYYYG

>>323012392
>>323012457
>>323012405
i'm only in the tutorial and this is a huge glaring flaw

>>323012520
:^)

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>"flimsy" shack
how the fuck do I break this down

>>323012650
TNT?

>>323012650
No idea. Maybe TNT or a jackhammer.

>that area
save

>>323012601
then how the fuck am i supposed to figure out how to avoid a camera's line of sight?

>>323012990
just don't stand in front of it?

>>323012990
Go when it looks the other way?

It isn't rocket science.

>>323012990
>camera spots you
>enter combat
>get out of LoS
>end combat
Problem solved. Next.

>>323012782
>>323012861

Yeah that worked. There was also a locked door nearby that I could open instead so I did that, fuck wasting TNT

>>323013217
Actually scratch that. It only works before the camera spots you.

how long is the game? are there other hubs the size of the first one?

>>323013486
LONG. Yes, several.

>>323013217
>>323013151
>>323013128
So LoS is just a straight line? i figured it would be a cone

>>323013620
It's a cone, similar to your own sight, except not 360 degs. It works by tiles. You'll notice this when you go exploring and find out how your view is obscured by random columns and shit.

RIP Knife builds
RIP Sledge builds
Dev only cares about unarmed.

>Trying this hard to bank on Undertale's success
shameless

>>323014121
What happened?

So what are the builds you can do? It seems like this:

Pure psi (Psychosis)
Pure psi (Tranquility)
Psi/SMG
Psi monk
SMG/Pistol
Crossbow sneak
Sniper
Sledge
Unarmed
Knife

I heard sledge and knife falls off HARD after midgame, is that true? What are the other options? How would you rate these builds in terms of performance?

>>323014231
They found out that tanky sledge characters drop like a rock in terms of viability around the end of core city, and that sneaky knife characters are gimped by dodge and evasion having a hard cap of like 66% dodge rate, which also gimps them about the same time as sledge builds.

>>323014836
Assault rifle/whatever is certainly a viable build

>>323014836
Psi/pistol with execute should be viable as fuck.
Especially with chem pistols as they have shit range anyway and you won't be gimped that much by leaving your per at just 6.

>>323014836
>I heard sledge and knife falls off HARD after midgame

I can't speak for knife builds, but I have a well built sledge guy who is struggling in the mid game after feeling immortal during the early game.

I'm not getting the feeling that it's just a slight hiccup either, I think it's all downhill for the build from here on out. Enemies just start using too many different damage types other than mechanical, so you can't mitigate it efficiently at all.
Psi users become a very real problem and even with 10 Con, I'm having a hard time reaching them before they shit out damage. I have a high throwing skill too, to compliment my Sledge, but even with MK V grenades, it doesn't help as much as you would think.

If the whole dodge & evasion thing that >>323014905 says is true, then knife builds are probably in the same predicament. Maybe they even have it worse off.

>>323015438
One thing I think is a serious problem that I haven't seen a way to help so far and that you touch on is psi damage. Having it simply tied to resolve (apart from metathermics who can be somewhat mitigated by shields and elemental armor) and giving you no options to improve it other than leveling is... meh? Are psi-enemies even supposed to be that dangerous? I reckon there's something wrong when an advanced bowman/gunner can miss/get tangled up in your shield/not miss and still not do enough damage whereas an advanced psi-user can just combine mental breakdown and overload to 1HKO you and there's fuck all you can do except kill him first.

>>323015438
Are you DRUGGED UP anon? I'd wager a high level in Biology to make crazy drugs would probably be extremely useful to a melee build.

When is this coming to Linux?

>>323016317
Nigga, I have like 85 biology.
Actually, I have all of the crafting skills.

I've got my own custom made armor, weapon, grenades and energy shield.

I've got enough drugs on me to open up my own drug store.

>>323016420
>an obscure indie getting a linux port
>gaming with linux at all
I wouldn't hold your breath anon

Can you get an electrician's bench for your core city home?

I will try a knife build, but I don't understand how a knife build is supposed to not get fucked up in the early game, nevermind the mid game.

How do you deal with a group of enemies as a knife user? I mean sure, you stealth up, kill one, and then...? Deal with the rest how?

>>323016515
Hmm. Thats concerning then. It'd be kinda dissapointing if Sledge/knife builds were completely unviable.

>Walking through the Tchort temple electronics lab
>the generator sparks with the electricity noise and I jump irl
I've got fucking PSTD from the bloody Gauntlet. God damn.

How's the dialog in this game?

When do we start hating this game

Ok so I was here>>323012650 an hour ago
Now i'm out of the tunnels (I didn't finish exploring it so i'll have to go back) and into a giant system of caves after crossing a railroad? Holy shit I don't have a FUCKING clue where I am or where I'm going, there are crawlers falling out of my ass, and i've got no room for new loot. But I don't want to backtrack, this has to have a fucking end somewhere.

>>323016936
Pretty fuckin solid for a serbian to english translation. There is a large amount of descriptive text which I like.

>>323016986
It's no where near popular enough for /v/ to hate on instinct, and it probably never will be.

>>323015438
why not flashbang everybody before closing in? As for psi users, shouldn't your energy shield be eating most of that?

>>323017438
Psi users tend to resist flashbangs 80% of the time, but of course, I'm utilizing my throwing in every encounter. I didn't make all of these flashbangs, grenades and molotovs for nothing after all.

>As for psi users, shouldn't your energy shield be eating most of that?

Operative word being "should". Besides, it's the Thought Control Psi users (which are the more plentiful in the game too) who are causing the most issues, and Neural Overload bypasses shields and hits like a truck.

How do you get to Foundry?

>>323018258
Take the train or keep heading East from Core City until you see it.

So if I'm going to make a knife build, should I take the crafting skills to make my own knives, or are the unique ones you find good enough?

>>323018625
crafted shit >> shit you find

this is an almost universal rule

Does having your Strength at 3 reduce the damage you do in melee? I mean is there actually a penalty to it?

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>>322999438

snibbedysnipe

>>323015438
that feel when I'm slaughtering ironheads at the warehouses with my crossbow trapper and they don't even know what's happening

1 shotting everyone all day long and then hiding in the shadows, so far only 1 guy in a group of 3 managed to use a hypo, rest were all mine

>>323019151

oh, only at level 18. didn't notice that got cropped out.

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>>323019151

>>323015438
My sledge is great
>sneak near enemies and pick them off 1 by 1
>smash their heads in easy
>every 3rd attack is some form of a stun
>that special attack that lowers enemy dodge by 100%
>kick them in the balls to stun them if needed
>if enemy a bit tough, charge sledge up and kill most of the shit in 2 hits
I play sneaky sledge build, have 0% armor penalty and use overcoat. Picked that trait that decreases armor penalty by 15% + gives you a bonus to dodge and evasion if it's at 0%.

>>323019286

absolute overkill, one critical shot from my spearhead killed him

>>323019319
Post build and where you're at in the game. This I got to see.

>>323019319
Sounds like every sledge build in the early game, minus the stealth part.
Where you at, nigga?

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>Get this game
>First quest with the generators
>Also get a quest to deliver a package
>Need to go through the tunnel
>Immediately killed by the bandits
>"Alright, I'll just go to the other way"
>Immediately killed by 5 rats

What the fuck? What am I supposed to do?

>>323019579

put a combat skill to 15 so you can actually kill the rats?

>>323019286
Surgeon was an absolute pushover, weakest arena enemy by far. I killed him with like 5 SMG shots in one round.

I am level 12, should I try to kill Balor? or is that too low. The Ironheads are all wrecking my shit with 5 shots a turn + grenades

>>323019795

if you can kill him quickly it's easy, he patrols a path so you can set a trap for him and kill him without a bunch of enemies bumrushing you.

fuck guys i just stealthed through the tchort base and activated the elevator without getting detected, i dont even know what the fuck the elevator is or what it does and im not even supposed to be here

but now the faceless are attacking, and i still haven't been detected at the elevator, and i feel like a boss but i feel like i fucked EVERYTHING UP; there was a vent over in the western wing that was hidden with a perception check that let me get into the investigation wing i guess?

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>>323019286

>>323012650
You can just go around. No lurkers there or anything like that (^:

>>323019953
yea, tahts the shit right now, the ironheads are piling up on me and fucking my asshole in a group

>>323012650
>>323020117
This was, to me, the most fun bits of Underrail, btw. Exploring the tunnels slowly and methodically getting raped by Lurkers and using your utilities smartly to rape them back, finding good loot and interesting shit.
The difficulty is the essential part: you really feel like you're moving forward, even if you're not bombarded with XP and phat lewt for every single fight. Clearing out and mapping the tunnels is fun by itself, not due to some Skinner box shit.

>>323018258
There's a lady at a desk at the train station of sgs. You can ask her for directions to many places.

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>>323019473
>>323019576
Im doing Foundry quests atm, I have no idea what part of the game that is but the only problem I had so far was with those mutants at Junkyard. I did the quest with killing the Ironhead leader no problem.

>>323020012
Guys, guys seriously, i need some anon who knows what the fuck is going on to hold my hand and tell me this is all going to be ok.

>Join Tchort base because i found the statue beforehand somehow
>i like exploring, don't judge
>Hit up west wing without doing any tchort quests at all
>Clear out west wing, find everybody insane or dead
>at very last part of west wing, i find a secret perception check ventilation shaft that lets me skip right over to another part of tchort
>Neat im free! I talk to a guy
>HE SHOOTS ME FULL OF BULLETS
>i must be in restricted section.jpeg
>reload save, sneak mode enabled
>Sneak through the ENTIRE AREA without being detected, which is insane.
>Get to elevator that goes down i guess? 120 hack check to unlock it
>Do it all in stealth, never detected
>CUTSCENE
>FACELESS ARE ATTACKING
>WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO

>>323016515
Post your build. Dodge+Evasion, Melee+Throwing, and all crafting skills? Sound like you're spread kinda thin.

>>323019146
Stats below 4 tend to incur penalties, I think

>>323020734
Tchortists took a cube
Faceless want this cube
dirka dirka faceless jihad

Reload and go do their quests first, they're fun.

>>323019319
Which overcoat only gives 15% penalty? I'm still rocking the ratking regalia and I'm like inches from the DC.

>>323020734
Same thing I did
>"Remember, answer honestly!"
>Well, honestly, I'm here to get the cube you assholes stole
>"W-what? GUARDS!"
>Wipe out whole base
>Find locked elevator
>Kill Tchortmeister, get key
>Somehow jumpstart the endgame, never even doing the tchort missions or even cans/FD questline
>Suddenly mushrooms
Such is life in the Under-Underrail.

>>323020734
I did the same(except I went through the offices, and found the perception vent from the other side). Faceless are scripted to attack as soon as you call the elevator, regardless of how you do it.
Better reload and do all of the Tchortists' quests, they're fun and should net you like a whole level's worth of XP, at least.

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>>323021085
With the perk it boosts my evasion/dodge to around 110 from the "real" 75, but desu I dont get hit much that often anyway because of sneak, get close to enemy, smash ENTER to initiate combat, smash them with sledge 3 times and restart stealth
With groups its just some patience with flashbangs+traps

>>323020647
>Level 12

Yeah nigga you're gonna get fucked up real soon. My sledge guy is level 16 now and he's just started getting the shit kicked out of him, especially against faceless and lurkers.

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>doing tchort mission
>open some shutters via a computer
>tons of lunatics
>have a blast (literally, bless grenades) at their expense
>like, 10 dead or something
>use computer in the room I was holed in again
>turns out I coulda gassed the fuckers
>get one-shot by the Electro Imprint I'd left blocking the door on the way out

aaaaaand that's enough Underrail for one day.

>>323016767
I had Though Control as a utility skill and the crowd control helps.

Which stats determine the amount of AP? How can you get more AP as a psi user?

>>323021560
>lurkers
Are those the stealth scorpions? Killed a few in some cave but they didnt seem that tough. Faceless on the other hand I fought at Rail Crossing and it wasn't too hard.

>>323021878
Nah, those are Crawlers, jack. Lurkers are people (too).

>>323021878
No, those are Crawlers. They're easy as hell for a sledge build.

>>323021734
>Find institute of Tchort
>Guy hates me, tries to send me away on a suicide mission for a silly statue
>"Oh This statue" as i pull it out of my pocket
>Explore Institute , Cool secret areas, stealth around past guards, ect.
>Finally find Samuel
>I want you to kill the lunatics in that collasped station
>"I already did that sir"
>...oh... ok, heres your reward then
>"Now i want you to clean out the west wing"
>"I already did that sir"
>"And here's the head of your lost platoon mate"
>.....

These fuckers must be terrified of me by this point

Are Ancient Rathounds in finite amounts or do they respawn?

>>323022175
I've got 50+ hours in the game and i've found two in total. Im not sure if they spawn in deep caverns or what.

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>that satisfying feeling when you force a melee enemy to walk into your psitrap

Coretech, Praetorian or JKK?

So far I am leaning for Praet

>>323023163
It doesn't really matter, although Coretech has be best electronics shop.

>>322999438
>One shotting fuckers in arena with proxy punch

Fuck me I love this, about to fight Dread Lord but that faggot wants me to rest, how long til I can go back and whipe the floor with him?

>>323021878
Have you went against Coil Spiders yet?
If not, enjoy getting destroyed.

>>323023163
fuck, why can't Core and Praet be together like buddies, I need a weapon/armour and electronics shop

Is it possible to get stealth high enough that nothing notices you ever?

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what the frog is this

>>323023686
a strange decice :^)

>>323023686
Take it. Take it, take it, take it!

Then hide in the air vent.

>>323021981
Those stealth dickheads that do 40 damage with fists? There's a pair of 2 just before you get to the small protectorate station?
Yeah those guys are fucking retarded with their -6 stealth cripple shit but since my stealth is high I managed to detect them and initiate then stunned them to death.

>>323023396
Nope never seen one of those

>>323023686
Rail Crossing quest, if you take it out unpleasant stuff will happen

>>323023380
going outside and talking to the guy in cloak lets you start the next arena fight, thats the only trigger

>>323020104
>2804 damage
>3111 resisted
Impossibru.

>>323024076

WAN PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCH

>>323023686
Ever played Hearthstone and come up against Dr Boom?

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>>323024076
>>323024347

its not, there's no point in using fist though when neural overload cant be resisted

>>323022150
Continued
>"Hey we need you to test this gun
>Your high mechanics skill lets you spot a serious problem with the weapon and you hand it back and explain it to him
>"Oh thanks, here's your reward"
>We also need you to get this data from a lab upstairs
>"You hand him the data"
>"Oh Thanks... here's your reward"

>>323020949
>>323021386
>Tchort Quests
>Fun
Niggas im dying of laughter at how many i've already somehow completed

>>323024536
Seriously, how? I've never critted about 1,000 with psionics.
Got as high as 900.

My crit bonus, at that time, was about 230%, I think. Trance drug + neural overclocking.

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>>323024946
-Mental Breakdown doubles neural overload damage on targets.
-You can get +30% Crit Damage on a Feat for Psi Abilities
-Psi Headbands can boost your crit damage by 60% on a good craft
-Theres a special melee weapon that gives you +crit damage that doesn't only work on melee damage
-Trance gives +100% Crit Damage

>>323024347
Now I want to play my psi-monk.

I'm never going to finish this game.

>>323025396
iktf

I'm at 55 hours played and my furthest is just past junkyard

I keep fucking restarting because i want to try other shit

>>323025396
Psi unarmed monk with powerfist teleproxy emission build is literally infuckingsane. I'm a full psi build with no unarmed talents, and i can punch a nigga and hit him seven+ times with different damage types on each one, its accidentally my backup damage spec when i feel like punching things.

>getting to the point where you mruder people so fast you can't even use up all the ammo you find

FUCK

>>323021734
>you can't set the lunatics in the west against the mutants to the east and watch the ensuing chaos, because they're in different load zones
Underrail's one major flaw

>>323022150
>These fuckers must be terrified of me by this point
Fucking lost my sides anon

>>323023657
Anyone know the answer to this?

>>323021794
AP's always at 50 regardless of stats, I think.

>>323023657
Got around 250 here, answer's no. They still make you out real quick if you're next to them, it just lowers the detection radius and slows down the detection time.

>That last fight in Arena

OOOOOHH FUCK

Was not expecting that, Arena has to be my favourite part of this game already.
The one on one aspect and figuring out how to handle your enemy is unreal.

>>323025348
That settles it then. Next playthrough I'm going full Psi.

I've never heard of this game and then suddenly there's a shitton of threads about this all the time. what is it? kinda makes me think of shadowrun

>>323027035
>tfw taking him on as a stealthy knife wielder
send help

>>323027205
Remember to go psychosis not tranquility. It's for the real big dick damage.

>>323027316
There are similarities, but this is more combat focused then Shadowrun. Pirate it if you like it buy it etc

>>323027316
It's what those Shadowrun games should have been.

>>323027449
>>323027453
would I like it if I didn't like shadowrun?

>>323027490
depends, why didn't you like shadowrun?

>>323027527
I... honestly can't recall now. It's been 3 years. well maybe I'll look at some gameplay of this and see if it interests me

>>323027449
>>323027205

To be fair, I'm Tranquility.

Psychosis doesn't really give you more damage , just more crit chance. For a full psi spec i would suggest tranquility

you can only pick one, and the other becomes locked

>>323027818
>an on demand crit
>not more damage
bruh

>>323027883
fuck you i never found a doctor's belt okay

>>323027818
>For a full psi spec i would suggest tranquility

Then you're slightly retarded. I'd call you full retarded but Tranquility isn't actually bad either, it's just slightly inferior.

I'd actually recommend Psychosis for a pure Psi build, and Tranquility for a hybrid one.

How the fuck do I deal with crawlers? They stab me, I cacoon myself in forcefields so they can't take advantage of the stun, then after the field wears away combat just stops and they do the same to me a few seconds later.

JUST
STAND STILL AND LET ME HIT YOU

>overloaded
>don't know why
>not many guns in inventory
>armour light
>bullets not weighing much
>26 hearts
>i've been lugging around 65 universal weight units of raw, bloody animal hearts

>>323027818
I like Tranquility. It lets me play around with so many situational weapons, combine them, look for combo opportunities. Sure in some cases I die a lot and the dice roll can fuck me in the ass, but I have a feeling if I went Psychosis I would be just tossing Cryo-orbs at everything which sounds rather boring.

>>323028041
>I'd actually recommend Psychosis for a pure Psi build, and Tranquility for a hybrid one.
Agreed, that seems to be the most optimal path to take.

On a scale from 1 to timed underwater escort mission with bethesda tier AI how hard will massacring faceless fuck me over in the rape caverns?

Can I save the institute from them?

>>323028048
It's ok I figured it out, the forcefield was unnecessary I just needed to place a trap where they are going to land after I get stunned.

>Carnifex
>Always goes first
>End of his turn either dazed, crippled, intimidated
>Or even fucking all
>Oh and he entangles you

Fuck this nigger so much

>>323028041
>>323027883
>>323027818
>>323028257


I REGRET MY DECISION AND IM TOO DEEP TO REROLL PSYCHOSIS ALRIGHT

>>323028113
^^^ Honestly Tranquility technically is a 10-30% flat out psi point cost reduction for the first turn, and every turn you have full health.

That + Meditation +25 Psi means you can literally cast 30% more spells without recharging your psi points.

This logistically is nearly identical in value to an on-demand crit. Just utilized differently. If you're going Tranquility i would almost demand you get stealth so you can manually initiate fights (or have high initiative).

>>323028332
Get locus of control, or Psudo Spacial Projection (have it active while running around crawler caves).

>>323028421
>Locus of control the stun
>Set myself on fire
>Rape him with biolocation and fire

>>323028541
The Breakpoint between the paths is two turns. If you can keep your character at full HP for at-least two out of the four turns it takes Psionic Mania to cooldown, Tranquility beats the crit path out in damage.

>>323028541
There there anon, it's okay.
No but seriously, Tranquility is fine, I actually think the dev did a decent job on making the Tranquility and Psychosis line fairly balanced.

The main benefit to the Psychosis line though, other than Psionic Mania of course, is it incentivises going the crit route.
I know on my other Psi character, I never wanted to take any crit related things like Neural Overclocking due to it feeling like a waste.

On this character though, I'm critting quite often (Way more often that I expected) even without Psionic Mania activated, so I'm very happy with my choices.

>>323029172
debatable. crit path gives you more inherent crit chance.

>>323028541
>or have high initiative
I'm not sure how realistic that is on a pure psi build. I went with 8 agi thinking the initiative would help me but I still lose most of the rolls since my dex is 3.

>>323029857
>>323028541
I just quicksave often so that I can always get the jump on enemies, because i'll always know where they are. Quicksave before going around corners or into rooms, too ez.

fuck finally managed to kill Barlor, he wasn't even that hard, but those goddamn grenadiers

>>323029628
Non Debatable, Tranquility gives you an additional spell cast per turn period.

Psychosis Takes away a spell cast per turn, and adds +15% Crit chance, which is a net loss overall by purely mathematical standards. (15% Crit Chance with a +100% Damage chance = 15% damage boost average. You would need at-least +260% Critical damage modifier to make Psychosis result in more base damage than tranquility just letting you cast another psionic overload each turn.)

Psionic Mania gives an assured crit though, which bumps it up to the 2 Turn breaking point.

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>>323030073

>>323030073
>You would need at-least +260% Critical damage modifier to make Psychosis result in more base damage than tranquility just letting you cast another psionic overload each turn.)

That is very doable. My build right now has a 120% crit damage boost and it's in its early stages. Add Trance which adds another 100% crit damage. The other 40% can be made up from better gear.

Also there is a drug that increases your crit chance by an additional 15%

The one thing in my build that I wish I had would be Survival Instincts.

Get low health and you'd be running around with a near enough 90% crit rate at all times.

>>323030059
I run psi/machinegunner and found that area to be a right pain in the ass.
The best option I found was to work my way in through the north, gets behind the main shack and whack the couple of guys at the south, then skirt the south taking out the other few there to thin them out.
Then I stuck mines next to Bear traps around corners leading to the back door in the south, filled that tiny room with beartraps and caltrops, then started the fight through the doorway into the room with the pool table.
It was a goddamn murder spree. With the front door blocked by stunned/incapacitated enemies, they would go flooding around the back. Every other turn you would hear a snap, then a boom. It was glorious.
There's like 12-13 guys including Balor plus 2 or so dogs on that map that all come running at the sound of an explosion, or if someone gets to an alarm.

>>323030564
I am running Meta/Pistol and I basically did the same, but with flashbangs and fire.

the only problem was when bombardiers and grenadiers would throw double grenades at me.

Barlor himself was easy, freeze and then unload AP ammo. Rinse and Repeat

>>323002581
Reminder that dodge and evade cap hard at 60%, making all pure-dodge no-tank builds worthless.

>>323030809
I had the feats for 2 less AP for SMGs, Pistols, etc, the 2 additional shots per burst, plus an SMG with a muzzlebreak on it granting 2 more shots per burst, plus the burst again for free on a kill with a burst once per turn feat, loaded with AP rounds.
I was doing 3 bursts of 7 rounds per turn. 4 with Adrenaline shots.
Everything dies so fast, but there are just so many of them there.
And I run out of ammo so frequently its horrible.

>>323028063
Kek.

>>322999438
What GUNS are you using, friend?

>>322999438

I want to do a Psi build, but I also want to be stealthy if possible.

Is there any way to make that happen in an effective manner?

>>323030056
May as well just play with a trainer at that point save scummer

Why aren't there any torches in this game? Surely a simple pocket torch would make life so much easier.

Yes, it would make you easier to shoot but you could also see better.
If it were bright enough, you might even blind your enemy.

>>323031535
there are flares you can throw

>>323031512
>not playing as Nicholas Cage from the movie Next

just starting, what are the dump stats/best stats in character creation? Don't want to have to restart later cause it turns out i built everything like shit.

>>323031493
Stealth works just fine with pure psi. Just remember the noisier stuff will attract more attention.

>>323031750
depends entirely on what you want to do

>>323031893

Cool. Now I just need to figure out where to sacrifice points for stealth.

>Searching caves for hours
>Come across a few places of note
>Find a two Mentors
>Neither of them are for Metathermics, aka the Psi school which I'm using
>Find tons of unique weapons, again, which I cannot use

Fuck this game.

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I'm starting to get the feeling that my aimless wandering since clearing junkyard may have gotten me deep into something I wasn't quite prepared for

I've seen you guys mention this guy, I have a feeling I'm in over my head right now.

>>323033042
RIP.
I tried that door a number of times. No thanks. They always get the alarm and swarm you.

>>323033042
That hammer is going to go right up your ass.

>>323033042
>no incendiaries, emps or caltrops

you dun goofed

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>>323033428
>>323033465
>>323033718
Balor more like Gaylor

I dedicate this victory to Electrokinetic Imprint, special mention to forcefield so I could hide like a bitch and fully heal my hp/psi

Still have no idea who this guy is or what his red eye is about

>>323033918
nice one, keep the red eye its a quest item

I was gifted this game from a friend of mine. Anything I should know before starting?

FUCK
THIS
GAME

STOP GIVING ME FUCKING THOUGHT CONTROL MENTORS. WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY METATHERMICS ONES?

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Can anyone link me good psi-monk or good monk build (pic related), I don't know if I should invest heavily into DEX or STR

>>323034304
There are infographics floating around that help new players

someone post the infographics i haven't saved them

>>323033918
>not using the fire psi to set everything on fire

>reviewers slag on underrails graphics
>undertale gets a free pass in this department

isn't that weird?

>>323034926
but anon its the best game ever graphics don't matter it was made in like 1998 shut up

>>323035081
Wat?
You know you can use "," and "."?

Shame the game doesn't give you anything for literally murdering everyone in SGS at the beginning of the game.

>>323034926
>videogame critics
>anything but stupid faggots

Going by the amount of damage the enemy does, I'm guessing crossbows are the best ranged weapons?

>>323032141
Don't. Put those points in crafting instead and get some decent black leather shit and a cloaking device.

Does Thick Skull prevent incapacitation, or just stun? There seems to be conflicting info about this on the net.

>>323035464
they shine really agressivly early on, but generally speaking all the guns (except pistols maybe? I dunno that execute ability is crazy) are on a pretty even playing field. Build balance in this game is for the most part good, provided you aren't playing knife or hammer melee which apparently fall of quickly near the midgame.

>Hotfix 1.0.0.7
>Roman will no longer die of a heart attack at the start of Junkyard battle
>patch notes fail to mention that this is achieved by Roman being a no show when the raid goes down

Thanks, Styg.

>>323035959
Top lel. Does this means he still dies?

>>323002928
I'm planning on going full PER as well, mainly for the accuracy and bonus to weapon skills. I was wondering how much of an impact would a single point really have at endgame? Because I'm thinking of putting 5 into PER instead and putting that 1 other point into CON so I'd have 10 and be able to pick up Thick Skull.

>>323036086

He dies of a heart attack on the way to the battle.

>>323035959
Can we all agree that the junkyard battle was pretty crappy

>takes like 3 minutes before you get a turn, all your soldiers are really powerful and they could almost certainly deal with the enemy faction without you.

I sided with the protectorate and the Eels against the Scrappers, and they just got fucking steamrolled. Only one Eel died, and no protectorate died.

>>323036237
its really dependant on the inititaive rolls early on.
for one Silas must not die, so if you are unlucky the sniper and grenadier from the Scrappers will fuck you up in turn 1 or 2

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>playing crossbow/traps/stealth build
>want to be the poison king and use a lot of poison darts
>also want to use poisoned caltrops
>tranquilizing and shock bolts too
>w-what about flashbangs
>3 utility slots with the trapper's belt

fug i could have so much fun

>>323036086
Nah, he just chills at SGS while you do all the work like always.

>>323036237
Yep. I could hardly do anything because every time I got to my turn someone moved in my path. Got to fire a Cryo Orb once that took care of half of the enemies, after that I was just spamming space until someone finally managed to hit some poor worker that got cornered in a shack.

And I didn't even get my SGS embassy. What the fuck, I was promised one. Fucking liar cunts. We have the three SGS soldiers that took part in the raid standing at the docks, and that's it. Eels are all like "fucking southgaters fuck off" and SGS folks are like "eeehhh what are we doing there anyway, we should have just stayed home". And the Protectorate doesn't give a flying fuck.

>early game
>run into enemy with a THUNDERHAMMER
Instant, unavoidable death.

It's a shame that two endings of Underrail are so sudden.

>finish game with psi-only character
>start new character
>go guns
>guy couldn't hit the side of a barn if was standing 3' from it, it was well-lit and he had a gun fixed on rails pointing directly at the barn
Psionics does exactly what you need it to, when you need it to.

>>323037026
Pure throwing is the poison build with throwing knives and caltrops.

It's also hilariously strong later on, you just throw a nade and then chain fatal throw knives on everything. Early game is a bitch though.

>>323028554
But what do I do if I'm not playing a cheesy faggot babby mode char?

>>323037718
then you take your useless fucking sledgehammer and shove it up your shitty builds ass

>>323037692

yeah, i'm leveling melee too until throwing can get stronk enough to carry me.

i also want the sneaky backstab ability though.

>>323037819
At least my build is challenging, you casualfag.

>>323038645
>challenging
I think you misspelt "challenged"
Good luck in Deep Caverns f u k k b o i

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>>323003730
>that damage

GO TO VG U FUCKIGN KEKS

>>323038971
§§§No§§§
we tried and it didnt work
like we kept saying, there isn't enough interest in the game for a general

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>mfw paying the new guy a mere 250 to raid Depot A for me

what a chump

>>323039191
I know right? What a cunt. I mean its 250 Stygians so thats like 1500 SGS credits in value but still Tanner come on.

>>323039191
Well, he wanted you to BUY one. That's why he gave you the money. Just be glad he didn't want it back when you told him you just had to kill a couple of mutants to get it.

I have lots of psionics and heavy armor, and sledge hammer, should I restart and go for a better build or ditch the sledge for unarmed or something.

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WHERE DO I FIND MICRO SHRAPNEL/ACID BULLETS BLUEPRINT

I'M FUCKING READY TO CRAFT HUNDREDS, WHERE

Sledge/metal armor guy here. How on earth do you deal with all the psi using lunatics near the tchort church? Every fight is about eight of them with at least three different powers that screw you up

I am about to start this game. I want to pure psi. What should I know?

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>Make myself a suit of supersteel armor finally.
>Put it on
>Same sprite as regular steel armor

Styg...please.

>>323042479
Sprites are a lot of work, especially when you need to make all 8 angles. Fallout 1/2 had 6 from what I remember.

>having to transport impure chromium in the foundry

fuck my life

>>323042879
You are using the cart, right?

>>323042947
I am trying but for some reason it doesn't work

>>323042879

use the cart ya mong

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My current build. I'm wearing bladed Heavy Armor and using the Power Fist currently. Wrecking face everywhere. Any suggestions on feats to take?

>>323043148

I should also probably mention I totally friggin rekt Carnifex. Power fist is just insanely strong.

>>323043035
Lever's you mongoloid, Levers. Put all your heavy shit in cart. Go to a room you want cart to come to, pull lever. You can just use the levers at the ends of the track if you want. You only need 30 of those blade things and dont forget to take your other shit out of the cart before you burn it up.

>Dan's a total bro.

Where do I buy an image intensifier tube? No-one is selling and I desperately need nightvision goggles.

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>Lurkers are in stealth even when taking a piss
For what purpose

How does that even work

>>323044262
>not enjoying secret shit

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>>323044262

>He's never aimed for the bowl instead of the water to avoid making loud piss noises.

>>323044262
While you're off sleeping, the lurkers are in stealth
While you're off doing pretty tasks for the SGS, the lurkers are in stealth
While you're off saving the world,
THE LURKERS
ARE IN
STEALTH

>>323044262
Maybe he doesn't want some fag to sneak up on him and take a peek at his peenie weenie.

do possible Mods for equipment get more avaible with main story progression?

>once you kill all the lurkers there will be no more lurkers to kill

:(

>>323044731

yep

These little Borers are adorable. Captured one since the guy at SGS mentioned bringing something back alive, but I sure hope he won't cut the little guy up.

>>323045470

well he won't, however...

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>>323045470

>MFW you need Borer Gizzards for the best chems in the game

I think I overskilled lockpicking. with the mk3 lockpick I am at 95. whats the highest locks you can find?

Making my first char, need some advice. Is Thick Skull worth maxing out CON for? Is stun something that happens often and is a serious problem? Are there other ways to mitigate stun? Am I going to get completely fucked by dumping any stat that isn't related to brute force to 3?

Also, I remember seeing some sort of "beginner's guide" infographic around here, anyone mind reposting that?

>>323046116

Stun is absolutely fucking awful, but 10 in con means your other stats might be spread quite a bit thin. What sort of build are you considering doing?

>>323046108
Keep going. Locks go way past 100. I've seen a screenshot with a 135 lock in it.

>>323046108
Locks go up to 130 in the Deep Caverns. Maybe even beyond...

>>323046261
>What sort of build are you considering doing?
Full retard. Maximum strength and constitution, a bit of agility and dexterity, everything else at 3. Then pick up a sledgehammer and go to town on everything, or maybe rip-n-tear with my bare hands. I haven't decided on that last part.

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I have, objectively, the best character ever.
How does that make you feel, pseudo-Underrail general?

My Metathermics character is god mode, plain and simple.

>B-b-but my sniper one hit kills an enemy
Yeah? Well I one hit kill ALL the enemies. As in groups of the fuckers.

The fuck out of here niggers, all of your builds are weak.

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The game is quite amazing so far. I'm listening to Amiga chiptune while playing instead of the OST.
Though, is there no map? I'm on the second mission, where I have to go to the Mushroom cove. Where is it already? I know it was on the right just after something.

>>323046443
How essential is hacking/lockpicking in the Caverns? I still have some time to level one of them up from zero. Probably hacking, since I have high Int and piss poor Dex.

About to go to Foundry and then Rail Crossing...or maybe I'll do it the other way around. Is there any electric damaging enemies there? I wanna know if I should use this Galvanic Vest or the Sturdy one for my new armor

>>323046582
unless the enemy wins initiative, then you have to reload

>>323046804
>Is there any electric damaging enemies there?

Not at those two locations, but there are some nearby.

>>323046983
This is why you always sneak up on your enemy. With Premeditation you don't even need to get particularly close.

>>323046582
>I have, objectively, the best character ever.
My trainer'd demigod with 20 in all stats and every skill maxed out would argue with that. I can do both super space magic and shooting people in the dick for overkill damage, and then finish up with some *nothin personnell* sneaky-ass shit. You got one way to kill enemies, I got them all.

>b-b-but dat's unfair and doesn't count
Yeah? Well it's my fucking game, and I play however I want to.

>>323046983
Sneak, although I don't even need to sneak. My range is so enormous that I can shoot shit as soon as they show up on the screen and besides my armor and health are pretty decent too, I don't die in 1 hit like all of those 3 CON psi builds

>>323047112
how many times did you have to reload carnifex to not get fucked up in the first turn? or did you just mash enter before the fight started?

>>323046498
>Full retard

If you are wearing heavy armor and are melee thick skull is kind of useless imo because you get dazed anyway which means you get less Ap and even less movement points (which would be already shit because of armor penalty). If you are going ancient rathound + evasion/dodge it's really good because you will have decent movement points and still be extremely tank thanks to 10 CON + RNG miss + Ancient Rathound high treshold.

Also full retardo is better with sledgehammer, fist needs ton of dex to be viable imo. It's all about going full hokuto on your enemies and you need lightning fists, high dex and tabis to do that.

>>323046498
I'm doing a RIPNTEAR build and it's working pretty well ( >>323043049 )

If you're going full heavy armor and sledge your armor penalty is going to be so fucking high you might as well have 0 movement points. This means that IF you take Thick Skull and they daze you it's really no huge loss. You will need a way to close in on fuckers or you're gonna have a bad time.

I'd say if you dump agility to get con to 10 it might be worth it, but you might want to up int a bit and pick up Chemistry, Mechanics, and Thrown. Get the Grenadier feat so you can use Flashbangs to hold guys in place so you can punch them. Make yourself a metal helmet with a shaded visor so you're immune to your own Flashbangs. Wear metal boots so you can put Caltrops everywhere. Also consider getting Electronics to 25 so you can make yourself a taser for another way to hold guys in place.

Don't dump Dex either if you're going unarmed. Combo is a staple Unarmed skill, and it requires 8 Dex. If you're gonna sledgehammer it might be better to dump Dex and get agility to at least 6 just for Sprint.

>>323046773
>Though, is there no map?
No, there is no map.

>I know it was on the right just after something.
The guy meant your character's right, since he was giving directions to your character. Meaning you need to go left from your perspective. Also, it's the only fucking place south of SGS you can go to at that moment. It's literally impossible to miss unless you're a retard.

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>Oculus
I fucking KNEW there's something fishy about that place.

>>323047585
the junkyard actually is aviable.

>>323047751
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Though you've got some higher-tier enemies on the way there, if I recall, which is a pretty good sign that you're not supposed to head there right at the start of the game. Anyway, my point was that it's pretty fucking hard to miss the shroom cove.

>>323045616
At least he went out peacefully. ;_;

>>323047376

Heavy Fist is quite viable. You still need loadsadex but you bust through mechanical resistances like nobody's business. You can land a dirty kick then two normal punches and a heavy and destroy pretty much anything.

okay I murdered the beast, fuck yea. anything I can do with its head?

>>323047557

Sorry meant to link to >>323043148

Why are there so many locked containers that are empty in this game? So annoying.

>>323048545

You get a home later and can mount it on your wall

>>323047376
>>323047557
Thanks for the input. Guess I'll go with a hammer then, because unarmed apparently needs serious dex and good agility and my char is pretty much the opposite. So it'll be heavy armor plus a heavy hammer, and I'm just hoping that my 10 con will be enough to get me close to fags so I could hammer the shit out of them. Also I'm obviously going to put all the extra stat points into STR, because you can never have too much of that. Or should I maybe split it with CON?

Also, the wiki mentions that INT plays part in conversations? Is it like Fallout and I'll get some special retard options because mine's at 3?

>>323036237
>takes like 3 minutes before you get a turn, all your soldiers are really powerful and they could almost certainly deal with the enemy faction without you.
Reminiscent of Fallout's Boneyard fight then. It's pottery.

>>323048719
bummer, I thought I could show it Quinton and brag

>>323048762

I would say if you're going sledge it is worth it to get Agi to 6 for Sprint. Then just dump everything into Strength and drop the hammer.