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No more pirated games in two years, according to hacking group.

>The founder of notorious Chinese cracking forum 3DM is warning that given the current state of anti-piracy technology, in two years there might be no more pirate games to play. The claims come after attempts to breach the Denuvo security protecting Just Cause 3 pushed the group's cracking expert to breaking point.

https://torrentfreak.com/no-more-pirate-games-in-two-years-group-warns-160106/

Looks like you'll finally have to get a job, son.
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>>322987949
>pushed the group's cracking expert to breaking point
sensationalist bullshit
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He brings disgrace upon his family. He will work harder to crack the games.
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Good thing all I play is f2p online shit, I couldn't give a fuck about single player shit unless it's porn.
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Based Denuvo saving PC gaming
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Good thing I hardly play any games made post 2010.
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>>322987949
This is something interesting to talk about but the last thread of this was just nonstop infinite shitposting.

Is there a monetary reason why all games don't use denuvo? Or is it just devs waiting for proven effectiveness before everyone decides to use it?
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>>322987949
I bet 3DM didn't even say that at all.
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>>322988839

>Is there a monetary reason why all games don't use denuvo?

Yeah, it's expensive. Notice that with maybe a small handful of exceptions, all the games using Denuvo were AAA big time releases. Anyone who isn't a huge AAA publisher isn't going to spend big bucks on a Denuvo.
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>>322988839
It's a new tech, so developers are only starting to use now. I can see it becoming more popular in the coming years
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I think pirating is a meme on /v/

every single one of you use steam and buy all your games.
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Sellouts, the people who make this software are ex-crackers. Kids better than them will rise up, same as they did against the older corporate stooges that tried to prevent things with securom, etc.
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>>322989504
Of course they said that, what did you expect? "THEY'LL NEVER CRACK OUR SHIT HAHAHAHAHHA"
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>>322989862
People are literally saying that though. They are retarded, not even the team itself says they are impervious.
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>>322989930
It should be bad for PR if they actually said that and someone manage to crack their games, so of course they're gonna be modest. I'm still pessimistic, though, since I'm not gonna buy JC3
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>>322989862

Considering the shills on /v/, they apparently expect that.

Piracy has always and will always exist. Every time some new "invincible" solution comes along, some group steps up and blows it wide open. Sometimes it takes a while (Chaos Theory wasn't cracked for an entire 12 months), but it always happens to games that aren't entirely server-side.

Denuvo is merely the latest spectacle.
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>>322990068
>someone manage to crack their games
Newsflash, with one exception ALL of their things have been cracked.

What is with this retarded idea in the first place?

Are you people stooges or just ignorant?
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Whatever I'm posting gore, don't care if I get banned we've had this thread too many times today.
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>>322989045
>mfw devs start pirating anti-piracy software.
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>>322990179
Patched Arkham Knight is not cracked and MGSV is not fully cracked also
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>>322988183
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>>322990337

They're both still playable, so the point is moot.
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>>322989620

A brutha's gotta eat, son.
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>>322990220
I warned you all
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>>322988561
Oh wow that's so cool bro, I bet you're just drowning in pussy explicitly because you don't play games made after 2010.
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Thats good, why do pc cucks think theyre entitled to free games? Buy the game or dont play it, simple as that.
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In our great immersive history of videogames and consoles, piracy has never died. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.

So what makes you think this is something new? At one point they said DRM will kill piracy, it did not.
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>>322990438
WHAT THE FK
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>>322987949

holy fallacy batman!


Given an infinite frame of time, any encryption algorithm can be brute forced. Its especially easy given the nature of DRM, since the attacker has access to basically all the information they want, its just a matter of being a good code breaker.
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I wonder who will Crack Just Cause 3
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>>322990496
because it's digital media

back in the day os cartridges you could finish a game, lent it to a friend, and then sell it for some dosh, get new games

Nowadays you can't do that anymore, pirating isn't worse than lending games to your friends, it's just that digital distribution gets a bit crazy, but in the long run it doesn't hurt the industry.
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>>322990438
You expect me to believe her thumb just cleanly came off, without blood, without bone, without flesh?
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>>322990438

WHAT THE FUCK NO
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>>322989862
I kind of wish they'd go cartoon super villain just for entertainment value, but that's just me.
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>>322990496
Why do consolecucks think they're entitled to used games? Buy new or don't play it. Both cause the same amount of harm to the industry.
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>>322990696
That doesn't at all justify it being completely free.
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>>322990438
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>>322990783

Actually, they cause more harm.

A pirate might go buy a copy of a game he pirated. Discounted maybe, but still a new copy that sends some money to the developers. A used game purchaser is only giving money to the middleman, and none of it goes to the developers. And because the used version has all the features of the new one, they'll never buy a new copy of the game.
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>>322990783
>Why do consolecucks think they're entitled to used games?
Because it's literally legal
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DIABLO 3 REMAINS UNCRACKED

If devs want their games to be uncrackable they just need to do what blizzard did with Diablo 3, yeah it's online only, but hey it's uncrackable, everyone should do that if they want their game to be pirate free.
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>>322989195
>using Steam
Bzzt.

Try again.
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>>322990783
>Both cause the same amount of harm to the industry.
I'd say "this is piratefags actually think" but I honestly struggle with the idea of you being this retarded.
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>>322991071
>a game with constant online remains uncracked!
well no shit
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>>322990618
>Given an infinite frame of time, any encryption algorithm can be brute forced.
Well we don't exactly have an infinite amount of time.

The real fallacy of DRM is giving a machine that you have no control over, both the program and the key to that program, and expecting that it's pirate-proof. You can't do it. It's like taping the key to the back side of a lock and thinking that defeats piracy because you've only told legitimate buyers where the key is hidden. Everyone else will figure it out too, it's just a matter of time.
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>>322990405
>They're both still playable
Not exactly, people are using steam share to play Batman nowadays because the crack fucking sucks
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So a bunch of chinks throw in the towel. There will ALWAYS be someone who will pick up the slack.
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>>322991049
lmao

Pirates never buy a game that took for free. They either pirate it and play it for 5 minutes and never touch it again or fully complete it and never buy it. Used games = giving money to retail = retail can order more shipments of games = publisher gets paid

Pirate scum are degenerate and you and your buttfucking buddies have never bought something you already got for free.
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i havent pirated a game in soooooo long. can't even remember the last one.
does Artificial Academy count?
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>>322991134
Publishers and devs do not see money from used sales, that's why for awhile they had codes that unlocked on disc content if you bought new, if you bought used you had to buy that code yourself. They got rid of that but now they have dlc, pre-order bonuses, and micro transactions now. Thanks used game buyers for killing the industry.
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I always get cracked up with how long some people are willing to wait for a game to be cracked.

>"Its ok, I can wait to get the game free"
>"ONLY TOOK A WEEK, PC GAMING WINS AGAIN!"
>"ONLY TOOK A MONTH, PC GAMING WINS AGAIN!"
>"ONLY TOOK A YEAR, PC GAMING WINS AGAIN!"
>"ONLY TOOK FIVE YEARS, PC GAMING WINS AGAIN!"

At this rate, these people will be long dead before they finish what, 1/10th of their actual backlog?

>Old pirate anon, dying in hospital due to natural causes
>"My only wish, was that I could live just 10 more years to see Just Cause 3 cracked so I could play it."
>He dies.
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>>322991272
>Implying the chinks aren't the best at this autistic shit
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>>322991212

Right, thats what I said. The attacker has the algorithm, the cipher, the key, and the plaintext (since cracked games are obviously reverse-engineered from a genuine copy)
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>>322991246

All I know is that I played the full game to completion without paying or using steam share, so I could actually care less. The patch didn't save the game from the tank sections.

>>322991330

>Pirates never buy a game that took for free
I could post all the evidence that proves you wrong, but at this point you aren't even trying
>Used games = giving money to retail = retail can order more shipments of games = publisher gets paid
Retail orders based on demand for new games, not what the usedfags are buying. Your buying of used games only fuels greater shipments of Call of Duty and FIFA.
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>>322991408
I gotta admit people are getting really good at baiting here
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>>322990648
I cracked the case open after buying it and finished the whole thing in less than a week. It is piss easy, and the story isn't even fun. It tries way to hard to be serious, but quirky at the same time and it just makes all the characters completely unlikable the only guy that was funny was David Tennant. It isn't worth downloading. I just saved you money and bandwidth. I promptly returned it to the store. A real shame since I had tons of fun with Mad Max.
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>>322991330
I bought Crysis 2 after they patched it so the pirated version couldn't play multiplayer as I quite enjoyed the multiplayer.
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>>322987949
Programmers don't just up and stop programming. Bragging rights, thrill of the challenge, demonstration of skill.
>governments, corporations, hacked constantly.

It's a piece of shit toy, video games are bottom rung. Ignore this tripe.
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>>322991564
So it's basically Just Cause 2.1?
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>>322991408
Recycling at Gamespot will cause that one game to reach an extra one, maybe two players. How many extra players do you think that torrented ISO will reach?
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>>322991421
There's over a billion of them.
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Rip in peace consoles.
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The question is "if" a Denuvo game can be cracked. The question is "when".
If that timespan were to grow bigger and bigger overtime, that is a problem regardless of some people that might believe its not.
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>>322988561
this tbqh, 0 fucks given
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>>322991734
Better than the dudes who already rose to the top? Naw you know what Poorfag PCuck, you're right. Everything will be just fine.
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>>322991574
So you bought the game only because they forced you into buying it, not because you actually had any intention to

Piratefags everyone
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>>322991419
Who really wanted to play Just cause 3 that bad?

If someone was willing to play it that badly, they would buy it. One way or another.
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Why do people pretend that piracy doesnt exist on consoles?

I pirated way more games on my flashed 360, than I ever have on my PC.
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>>322991419
Sometimes, if I don't see torrents, I just skip the game. Nothing to do with pirating. Just a filter, indicator of on the games quality. If no one is talking/playing it. At least among the type of people I like, it means the game was shit.

I know this isn't the logical conclusion you're are suppose to come to, but it works. Turns out, most of those games not getting pirated are pretty shit. (because again, they weren't 'cool' enough to get cracked in the first place. Why buy it?)
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>>322991653
Yep! It is that exactly. I like the idea of taking over bases and making them mine, but Christ the game is piss easy. You can use your default weapons and to take everything. The fun factor dies pretty damn early.
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>>322991932
So, you are saying that, if cracking Denuvo games ends up taking longer and longer, then evenutally, people are going to either just give up on the game becoming free, or just go out and buy it already?

Good for jews, bad for actual people.
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>>322991690
Yeah but multiple copies of the same game get sold used, not just one. So those used games reach just as many, if not more people since it is legal and that eliminates any fear of going to jail. Used games are literally more harmful then pirating.
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>>322992119

>Why do people pretend that piracy doesnt exist on consoles?

Because piracy on consoles takes slightly more effort, and the average consolefag is still convinced that every torrent is a chinese bitcoin mining virus.
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>>322992119
Because console piracy only matters if its for free Nintendo games.
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>>322992173
More like they'll just stop caring about playing the game at all.

You don't have to play every shitty AAA game that comes out, anon-chan. You won't lose your gamer badge, we promise.
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>>322987949
How does Denuvo even work? Is it just some really long number you have to guess or something?
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>>322991871
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_warez_groups

Gee, I wonder if anyone will step up at all.
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>>322992161
That's my problem with JC2, it gets boring so fucking fast and the missions are terrible. It surprises me how this game is so beloved here, same thing with Saints Row 2
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>>322992119
I did the same when the sweat shop kids didn't know how to properly solder anything. Keep in mind this was the premium one, and I babied it, like I do all game machines. My disk tray had a fucking wire just fall off of it. It looked like someone just spit solder on it. So I had to do surgery in there, so I said "Fuck it", and I flashed it. You think that they could properly train the people to avoid that kind of thing.
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>>322992546
It's like an open invitation, a challenge. Pretty fucking cool. I like Denova. Simply for offering the opportunity. All the drama with these crack/programming groups is great.
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>>322992119
It takes a lot more effort but hey I got a fuck load of games to run on my PSP and Wii.

Also how the fuck did the Wii and PSP get cracked so easily?
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why is 3dm the only group doing denuvo cracks anyway?
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How horrible if the dreamcast clusterfuck happened on the next PS or xbox
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>>322992927
Magical gook samurai powers.
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>>322991142

Well, sc2 was cracked, and it required always online.
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>>322993203

The files were client-side though.

Diablo 3 was just a small client to access files stored server-side, which is why it hasn't been cracked yet.
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>>322993203
D3 runs on Blizard's servers, much like an MMO. SC2 runs on your computer. Big difference.
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At worst, no game will be unpiratable when quantum computers become commonplace.

So even if no one is able to crack denuovo anymore, the first cracking team that gets hold of a quantum computer would break every single DRM there is and there will ever be.
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>>322992768

PSP took a couple of years IIRC.

I think it was a leak from a official support or something like that. Or was that the Ps2?

I remember one of sony consoles got pirated due to a factory leak or something like that.
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>>322990337
MGSV is most assuredly fully cracked. I know because I've played it start to finish.
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>>322990473
>I bet you're just drowning in pussy explicitly because you don't play games made after 2010.

He's way too busy playing good games to worry about bitches.
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we all know the only reason devs would use DRM is because they are incompetent about their games Port.
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>>322987949
>technology now is going to stop hackers 2 years from now

Anybody with a head on their shoulders can tell you that sort of prediction is absolutely worthless. If that dude thinks there aren't hundreds of people better at what he does that just don't care enough to try until nobody else does he's delusional.
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>>322991886
>shifting the goal posts

You claimed no-one bought the game after they pirated it. You are wrong.
Besides, the fact that they patched the game is irrelevant as I wouldn't have bothered with the game in the first place. It was only after I had pirated it that I had any intention of buying it.
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I really don't care, everything these days is total garbage and all i play is old shit.
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>>322993784
You're correct, this is a solid 'fact'. Not an opinion.
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>>322987949
>Denuvo Games that aren't MGSV
>Successful
Pick one and only one.
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>>322991330
I pirated dishonored. Favorite game in a long time. Bought it about 8 months later so I can always dl it fast if my computer shits itself
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>>322993492
the pandora battery was a leak, I think.
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>implying I pirate games

ha ha, i win, trible A gaming developers. I already don't see your SJW-ified AAA shovelware shit with absurd system requirements because you're too stupid and cheap to properly port them from the weestation-1
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>>322989045

Surely Bethesda could have afforded it for FO4? Why wouldn't they want to?
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>>322994716
Denuvo prevents modding.
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If it have to run on a CPU you control, its already dead.

And if you can't control the CPU but still have access to itr, you still can crack the fucker with reset glitch and similars, which is how the horribly well protected Cell and xenon CPUs fell.
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>>322991071
>calculating everything in an fps/open world tps/strategy/etc on a remote server
that's why /v/ sucks dick, it's filled with retards with no technical education who just shitpost for no apparent reason
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>>322995076
it doesnt calculate everything remotely, educate yourself.
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>>322995203
It doesn't matter, nobody will play a single-player always online game, what if your fucking internet stops? It happened to me with some ubisoft game, it's fucking retarded, thank god I don't buy games, otherwise I would've beat the shit out of the store clerk.
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>>322995374
Diablo 3 was considered a success.
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>>322995502
Yeah, because it relied on previous glory, not on proper gameplay.
What is the current diablo 3 concurrent players? Where are the mods for diablo3? People didn't even continue to try making a private server, because it's a shit game.
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>>322995706
>make shit games
>nobody wants to play them anymore by the time cracks are out

what now pirate fag ?
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>>322995706
What the hell were they thinking when the ported it on consoles? The fucking dumb idiots.
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>>322995502
yeah blizzard jewed me out of my money, if you consider that a success. d3 was fucking horrible.
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>>322995841
Heh, I guess that's what companies are trying to do. Imagine that, big game devs are making the games shit on purpose so the crackers would lose their incentive to crack them.

Actually it's nothing like that, they just make shit games and blame their shit sales on piracy.
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Whatever the chinese can't do, the russians will do.
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>>322995203
>It doesn't calculate everything.
Of course it doesn't, but the less communication with the server, the easier is to crack it. If d3 for example had a fog system similar to dota, you wouldn't be able to maphack at all, especially if the map generation is always random and it can't be predicted. Just an example.
Or for example if you are playing an "always online" fps and you just need to signal the server, that's easily crackable.
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>>322987949

Sensationalism, its probably true that the crackers are not getting much fresh blood into their groups, at least not competent people.
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>>322996083
They Beta tested the PC gamers for the console market.
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>>322995997
>What the hell were they thinking when the ported it on consoles?
It's where it belongs now.
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>>322997509
Yeah but the sales on pc outweigh the one on the consoles by miles.
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What about nosteam, codex, r.g mechanics etc..?

Aren't they also attempting a crack? If so, that means there's quite a few people working on it so I'm not too worried. There'll be a crack by the end of next week.
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>>322997895
That doesn't invalidate my post.
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>>322998027
they only crack games that dont have DRM
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>>322987949
I can play the last 20+ years of games for free. And I don't have to be all r/masterrace about it. I'm happy.
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>>322992927
because you don't actually crack it, you have to emulate it. it's better to think of denuvo not as DRM, but more like DRM for the DRM you already slapped onto the product, and apparently the gooks are the only ones with the mental fortitude to touch that kind of mindfuck
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>>322987949

Oh well. If I can't pirate games and see if they're worth a shit, I'll just buy less.
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>>322998441
or wait for steam sales.
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I'm fairly confident that if worst case scenario happens and all AAA games become uncrackable, unmoddable nightmares, there will be a backlash in the form of small teams making DRM-free and moddable games, and they'll get the profits AAA publishers will lose with their shitty practices.
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Valve is gonna buy them up
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Well time to put this brain to good use. Don't worry /v/ and the world, I promise cracked games will still be possible in the future, you have my word. Nothing personnel game developers.
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>>322988359
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Where were you when Denuvo made PC a valid gaming platform?
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>>322990885
It doesn't need justifying anymore than sharing physical games did. Literally no one is losing anything they inherently had. Pubs don't inherently deserve money just because someone played their game. If they can sell it, cool. If not, tough cookie.
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>>322988535
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>>322994972
It's literally fucking nothing, one of the main draws of PC gaming is modding and without that I'll have no interest in future games

There are already tens of thousands of worthwhile games out there with many thousands more mods for them, I think we're pretty well set on quality content
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>>322987949
Except Denuvo has massive CPU, drive access and memory overheads and isn't practical to implement in games with already high system specs, quite a few games, most notably the new Batman and Just Cause 3 were utterly ruined by it.
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>>322989195
>>322991082
The only reason I still use Steam is because so many games I've bought in the past are tied to it
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>the games will get better when they have to buy them!
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>>322987949
I wonder if Denuvo has anything to do with the fact that Just Cause 3 runs like hot garbage because any game with Denuvo basically requires the PC to be able to run two copies of the game at once?
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>>322993834
This guy gets it.
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>>322994476
This is something I find kind of funny. It'll be funny if they actually see less sales down the road when people decide they aren't going to pay for new games that they can't play first to test it. Then denuvo might die just off the fact that no one wants to play denuvo's CPU and harddrive eating ass.
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>>322990473
>assigning value based on female attention

beta detected

men don't give a shit what women think, which upsets women and makes them want the D

stay mad tbqh sempai
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>>323001550
Yeah they'll likely get worse. Assuming it never gets cracked (which is dreaming honestly) pubs will see the opportunity to do whatever they fucking want.

That is assuming people won't already go ballistic over the no mods thing.
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>>323001631
Basically. Most denuvo games require way higher specs than should be necessary. Its been a consistent theme that games with denuvo run like shit on all but the most powerful PCs.

So ironically most users (which don't have super PCs) won't even be playing games with denuvo. And steam has refunds now so go figure.
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>>323002103
So thats why mgs5 runs so bad right?
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Eh, MGS5 was made by a competent asian developer team.

The SJW hambeasts making shit like Bamham Knight, Asscreed: Transyndicate, Dragon Age 3 and Just Cuz or whatever other AAA shit is using Denuvo were only hired because they have vaginas not because they have any legitimate technical skill. Add their ineptitude on top of Denuvo demanding resources then you have a bad recipe.
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>>323002180
MGS5 has such low requirements that the added overhead doesn't matter, this is not true of most other games.
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>OMG PIRATED GAMES WILL BE NO MORE
Uh definitely not. People act like it has become impossible now lmao, which is definitely never going to be the case.

Nothing is feasibly impossible.
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>>322987949
My PC can't run anything made after 2002 for the most part so I give no fucks.
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>>323002180
MGS5 is on last gen consoles anon... Clearly anyone can run it.
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>>323002948
But are there impossibly feasible things ?
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>>323002180
the engine runs on cheetah blood
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