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So i started dragon age origins today, i'm playing as a elf mage.
Pretty good so far, some grey warden recruited me to kill some zombie monsters and shit, now at i'm some fort full of wardens.

/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?

General tips would be nice too.
AoE spells damaging my party is kinda shit desu
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>>322783634
>/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?
It's neo-biowEAre trash. You got memed
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It's great but I'm not giving you tips
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>>322783634
It's good, try Inquisition if you like this one, then give DA II a go if you're really invested in the lore and all. DA II is like a 5/10 game, but you still might get a kick out of it. Inquisition is 8/10 game

Me, I don't know I recognize that this game is good but it seemed too generic for me, I would rather play any fantasy MMO whenever I try to replay it
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>>322783889
Nah. It was one of the last couple games (ME1 being the other) that wasn't affected by the EA take over. Thats why you see such a massive change in the sequels (same as ME series).

As for advice. I suggest doing the mages college quest line first as i believe it sends u into the Fade where you gain a bunch of upgrades and its also regarded as the least liked area so its best to get done and out of the way.
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>>322783634
Get the arcane warrior class as soon as possible and become a living, magical weapon of asskickery.
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It's probably the best one. DA2 was rushed as shit and didn't even have half the development time as DAO and it shows in just about every area although playing a sarcastic femHawke can be enjoyable. Inquisition is alright and has some decent ideas but has its own problems like making bigger zones but forgetting to put enough interesting things in them.
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>>322785534
Arcane warrior is that good?
I was thinking about getting blood magic, seems way cooler.
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>>322785535
At least 2 had the balls to innovate. DA:O was such a throwback to traditional fantasy, I'm surprised the manuals don't come with Tolkein's wank stain on it. The entire game is so mired in old school CRPG that I'd swear I could hear the old dial-up tune as the game loaded. All the animations are slow as shit and combat for anything other than mages feel like you're waiting in line so your friends can ride a roller coaster you're too short for. And let's not forget the cheeky self-aware characters for the "us gamers" crowd. At least DA:2 was a fresh take on the genre. Ten minutes into DA:O, I'd spent the last eight of it in a stupor from my deja vu.
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>>322785535
> DA:O Click on enemy
> Run towards him and attack
> DA2: Click on enemy
> Run towards enemy and go CURAZEEE
> DA:Inq Click on enemy
> Stand in place
> Have to manually run up to enemy
> Have to hold down auto-attack button in ranged/melee
Ranged is the only way to go in Inq
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>>322785106
I honestly liked DA2 more than Inquisition. Inquisition was fine, and had a great start, but the world felt so much emptier than the other two games.

DA2's environments were extremely repetitive, and the interactions were fewer than Origins, but there was still a stronger sense of variance in writing the quests and how the companions tied into the main story.
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>>322783634
Mages are op and you are playing on ez mode
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>>322783634
Origins is the only decent game in the series and even then it's only a strong 7 I'd say, although I don't know how well it's held up. Think I replayed it back in '11 with all the polished mods. Being a 7 doesn't mean its a bad game though, in fact its def worth a playthrough and i'm sure you'll enjoy it. The mage tower gets old after a couple playthroughs and I think the dwarf section is the best part of the game but I'm partial to dwarves.

Also look for a mod to fix the friendly fire shit I'm sure there's one out there for it. And get the respec mod their tooltips are shit and don't explain the abilities thoroughly.
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>>322785768
Blood mage is like being a sorcerer on magic steroids. It does kick a lot of ass.

Arcane warrior is a beast though and probably the easiest way to solo the game.
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>>322786743
I don't disagree and somehow have a soft spot for 2 despite the respawning waves of enemies and reused areas. The story could've been good too if that whole last part was done differently.

>>322787013
Who the fuck knows what they were thinking when they came up with that auto-attack shit in Inquisition.
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>>322787216
He's playing on hard mode if his spells are damaging his own team.
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>>322787496
> Blood mage is like being a sorcerer on magic steroids. It does kick a lot of ass.
> All being a blood made entails is using hp instead of mana pool for spells
> being a sorcerer on magic steroids
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>>322786743
Origins was clearly straight up Tolkien in its roots, but it does it in a solid enough way and had enough fun characters that I didn't mind.

I do think that people are too quick to write off DA2 though. I actually really liked the idea of following a family's personal conflict in the middle of something bigger, just a shame they weren't given more time to polish things up.
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>>322786743
"At least DA2 had the balls to be narrow and inconsequential" is what I read. Yeah, take THAT, convention!
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>>322786743
I don't mind the idea of a fantasy concept "going smaller", but that doesn't mean the geography also had to be that tiny, and shitty character cast and cut-and-paste dungeons were unforgivable. DA2 was an unfinished game and I'm not enough of a doormat to apologize for that.
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>>322783634
It has a great combat system, assuming you play on nightmare and have to actually think about it.
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>>322787739
>blood magic allows you to do more at the cost of your own health
>steroids not being a good simile
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>>322787910
> Have Anders Breivik whole game in party
> Try to convince him that his extremist views are close minded
> Go through trials and tribulations
> Show him that theres insane fucking people on both sides
> He begins to understand
> "Thank you for showing me theres two sides to a coin"
> Still blows up the Chantry
> I wasn't me It was Justice all along
> You can kill me now pls
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>>322788330
The cast was better than DA:O.
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Something I'll give DA2, is that the companion arcs felt like they had a legitimate start and end in the main plot.

In Inquisition there were only a few characters that I thought had solid conclusions with their stories. But characters like Blackwall, Vivienne, and Serra made me think they were building up to something more that never came.
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>>322788420
Really? Is that all that blood magic does?
I was thinking you had some forbidden powerful spells to fuck shit up.

Meh, guess i'll go arcane nigger.
I WANT TO SHOOT ENERGY SHIT FROM MY HAND, I WANNA BE DARTH SIDIOUS.
I want to play the game like a sith lord from KOTOR 2.
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>>322787713
That's not what I meant Anon
I mean that playing the game as a mage makes it super easy
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>>322787739
Well, because of how sustained spells work in DA:O doubling you mana pool seems like a pretty big deal.
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>>322788782
You do get one really good spell from what i remember, but its mostly good for for the extra mana.
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>>322783634
This game was great. I've must have played through it at least four times and exhausted just about every ounce of content within it. Could never go back to it anymore, but I do remember the butterflies of enjoying it the first time.
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>>322788420
DYEL ?
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>>322788712
Yeah man, Anders, Carver, Fenris and Merril were all fucking fantastic characters. You're right. Silly me.
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>>322783634
DA:O is really good, enjoy it, anon.

DA2 was rushed as hell because of EA (Bioware wanted it to be a DLC for DA:O, but EA forced them to make a completely new game), but if you ignore the reused areas and the graphic, it can be an enjoyable experience. It also prepares the scene for Inquisition.

I enjoyed Inquisition a lot, to be honest. The gameplay isn't the best, but the characters are nice (even Sera, once you know her better) and I think they all had good stories/personal quests. The lore is fantastic.

>>322788770
Not all companions quests have to influence the main plot: for example, you played matchmaker with Aveline and that Templar in DA2, but that didn't have much to do with the main storyline, while Merrill's was quite important.

Blackwall's story is actually brought up in Trespasser (which is the real ending of Inquisition): his name in the menu is even changed to Thom Ranier.

Also, Solas', Bull's or Cassandra's companion arcs directly influence the game: Solas can either respect or despise you in Trespasser depending on how you treated him/if you killed his spirit friend or not, influencing the future game; Bull can betray you or stay with you depending on your choice during his quest; Cassandra can reform the Seekers of Truth or disband them forever; Varric's quest even lets you discover that red lyrium is alive and Tainted
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>>322785768
Get both.
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>>322783634
>/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?
Yes.

Arcane Warriors are fun. If you take healer or bloodmage as the secondary specialisation, you become invincible.
Buy any and all backpacks and skill books you can get, there are some missable opportunities to buy them effectively twice.
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Cone of cold
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>>322783634
>>/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?
Inquisition was on the low end of of "good", so no.
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>>322791508
Aveline's date wasn't her only story though. There was also the development with her becoming guard captain, and how the role was affected by everything else going on.

For all the shite that the linearity of DA2's plot gets, I liked how the characters all reflected a certain aspect of the city's conflict, and how you dealt with them changed each of their fates in the final conflict.

The DLC was a fine epilogue for most of the characters, but I would have liked a little more time to develop them before that. Blackwall's crime is revealed, and it's just kind of brushed aside after his quest until he finds redemption somewhere in-between Inquisition and Trespasser.
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>>322788782
You get two good spells an aoe stun and a single target control. Along with arcane prison nothing will be moving on the battlefield.
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>>322793034
Shattering frozen/petrified enemies, as well as all the fun spell combos were what made the game for me.
Of course both were utterly removed from 2 onwards.
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>>322791508
>DA2 was rushed as hell because of EA (Bioware wanted it to be a DLC for DA:O, but EA forced them to make a completely new game), but if you ignore the reused areas and the graphic, it can be an enjoyable experience. It also prepares the scene for Inquisition.

DA2 tried to do too much, especially considering how its development went.
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>>322793589
might not have been the most effective use of my mana or the most party member friendly but god dammit nuking an entire room with storm of the century was fucking fun

also felt very appropriate in a "this is why the setting has templars" way
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>>322794208
>templars
>when mages are the best mage-killers with that mana-exploding spell, also removed in the later games on account of too much fun

Also I've never bothered to do it, but
>trap a group of enemies with paralysis or earthquake
>summon a lake of grease around them
>set the whole thing on fire
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>>322794648
templars are pretty good against early and midgame mages though, those templars in the mages tower can and will oneshot your mages if given the opportunity
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>>322783634
Fucking magic knife ears
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>>322794948
its kinda fun to go elf mage
nobody anywhere even remotely likes you
even the other elves go "oh shit its a mage"
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>>322794163
Nigga part 2 was the only good part of that game.
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>>322793265
I agree that Blackwall's crime is a bit brushed aside, but that also depends on how you chose to free him from prison - if you switch him with the criminal that has to be hanged anyway, all Thedas believes that Thom Ranier is dead. In fact Leliana says that only the Inquisition knows what really happened and they must keep things secret.

If you ask Orlais to release him or forcefully free him instead, then you can hear NPCs complain about it in the streets and the banters and some missions on the War Table change.

You can affect the characters' life and their final fate in Inquisition too, maybe even more than in DA2, where all your companions remain with you until the end, even if you have been an asshole for the majority of the game (except for Isabela, who can permanently live). They only become rivals, but never leave you.

In Inquisition, you can

>help Cullen with his lyrium addiction. If you don't, he progressively get crazier and crazier and dies at the end of Trespasser

>Leliana can be hardened and become a bloodthirsty Divine or have her faith restored

>pirates attack Josephine's ships if you completed her personal quest with diplomacy, she hires them if you used violence

>Bull betrays you if you kill the Chargers

>Cole gets with Maryden if you made him human or he returns to the Fade to assist you from there if you made him spirit

>Vivienne influences the mages' life and the Circles a lot in different ways depending on your choices

>Solas' arc is the most important because he either hates you and refuses to be redeemed or he admires/loves you and hopes you will find a way to stop him, influencing the outcome of the next game.

I think that the companion arcs of Inquisition influence Thedas even more than those of DA2, which were restricted to Kirkwall only and changed only things inside the city and in your group of friends. I liked DA2 story arcs, but Inquisition's were much better in my opinion.
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>>322797692
does Leliana's character change notably depending on if she was hardened during origins or not?
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>>322788782

Well here is the thing. Blood magic is great if specced right. When spec right you can be the tankiest motherfucker in the game, par none.
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>>322798001
absolutely nothing changes because bioware are hacks and DA2 and beyond are utter shit except for waifu potential.
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>>322798782
oh well, guess I'm not missing to much by not playing Inquisition
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Dragon Age 2 is my favorite

>mages feel OP as fuck, those ice spells
>that mage/templar dynamic
>that condensed area
>those actually decent sidequests
>varric

There wasn't really apoint I was bored playing DA2 again like a month ago

I recognize Origins is a better game but I like 2 more

Inquisition is alright too, especially the Trespasser DLC is fucking fantastic
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>>322799253
>mages feel OP as fuck, those ice spells
mages felt fucking weak in 2 compared to a properly build mage in origins
only fun spec was gravity
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>>322799343
Can i re-specc my spells at some point?
I think i have made some mistakes, i'm not liking that much that energy powers.
FUCK FRIENDLY FIRE
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>>322799721
Didn't you install the mod?
I'm pretty sure you can get a respec at the black emporium as well
>playing with FF
lmao
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>Somewhat civil conversation about DA
>on /v/
Neat
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>>322783634
I'm also playing through this game for the first time, though I'm like 40 hours in, as a human mage. Pounded the Morrigan pussy and kind of wishing I had gone blood mage or arcane warrior instead of shapeshifter.

This game has been a pleasant surprise though, I kind of just bought it on a whim and it really is up there with one of the greats of Bioware's old canon. Really loving it so far.

What's the best order to play the DLC in m8s?

And are the other games even worth it?
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>>322791508
DA2 did handle companions very well. They were more fleshed out than Origins and had more depth.

Origins was like your typical older fantasy where it focuses more on the plot than your characters where DA2 was more modernized, focusing on characters over plot.

Inquisition tries to do both but doesn't really excel at either. The characters in Inquisition weren't bad but I couldn't get the same connection to them. Even Varric lost something in transition.

And fuck Inquisition for not portraying the full level of sarcasm my Hawke possessed. I went out of my way to make him super blasé and facetious and he was fucking serious and grimdark in Inquisition.
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How am i supposed to build an arcane warrior? It feels like i either just build an auto attacker who can cast like 1 spell because of fatigue costs, or just kinda ignore everything except the first talent so i can use any armor.
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>>322799721
elemental AoE's are so powerful that without FF they'd be completely and utterly unbalanced, especially when you start to combo them

learn how not to hit your allies or if you can't deal with it get the antimagic glyph spell
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>>322799343
>firestorm with that AoE gravity slow

Still I couldn't help but feel that my Warden could fucking waltz through and kill everything in Kirkwall without giving a single shit.
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Anybody else kinda wish you could ditch the main character? Everybody else is interesting and talkative. The main character just sits there and stares at people.
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>>322800721
compare to say dragon ago origin's combo of paralysis/repulsing glyph and say storm of the century combo move
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>>322799343
The enemies were better. That one spell that sucks you in and explodes that results in a one shot was bullshit. Worse than that curse of mortality bullshit in the first one.
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>>322800721
Pic related was my favourite spell in DA:O but felt terrible in 2 for some reason
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>>322801159
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>>322800338
You take all the talents in Arcane Warrior along with Rock Armor/Arcane Shield/Miasma.

Wear heavy armor and anything that gives stamina/mana regen.

Take Blood Mage and respec all points in willpower to constitution. And dump any excess points into Dexterity to up your dodge/hit ratings.

Then take any goddamn spell you want because you'll never take damage and can drain health from your tank if you do.
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>>322801102
never got oneshot in 2 the same way a curse of mortality/crushing prison one two punch did
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>>322783634
>already started playing
>"/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?"

Quit being such a fickle little shit, why don't you form your own opinion for once. "/v/ told me" get the fuck out of here, if you weren't so new you'd already know anything "/v/" tells you needs to be taken with not just a grain of salt, but a heaping bag of it.
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>>322800270
My biggest gripe with Inquisition is that the protag voice actors are all terrible and unfitting, femhawke for example just was perfect
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>>322801360
I did when I didn't realize what was going on. It was easy to avoid if you saw the mage. If not you'd just be controlling your character, only to have half your group die out of no where. No one ever did crushing prison on me in Origins.
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>>322801425
I loved the British female. It was cute and sweet when it needed to be, angry when things got serious, flustered and timid during the romance scenes
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>>322800270
>DA2 did handle companions very well.
Rivalry thing was great too
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>>322801598
mages used to spam crushing prison on me all the time in origins
can get nasty if you willingly not abuse mana explosions
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>>322801368
More salt means to take it more seriously. How are you not familiar with this phrase?
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>>322801646
I thought this scene in particular was not so good because of my characters voice
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>>322801714
Guess we just had different luck. Also, only the darkspawn mages would use the curse. It changed the battle plan in the beginning of the fights.
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>>322801425
Agreed. The faggy British accent for the male was just awful. Way too posh. The other male voice was alright, so I used it. I played a good-guy Qunari who was like the too-friendly uncle to everyone on the team, and his voice was perfect for that kind of chauvinistic almost-sexual harassment whenever I flirted with the sexy dwarf scout.
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>>322801814
Josephine was boring as shit
Too bad she's the only reasonable /u/ option
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>>322801919
The faggy British accent is why I started playing lawful evil and turned my Inquisition in to an army of faith.

The character seemed more like a villain anyway.
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>>322783634

It's the same as pretty much every other Bioware game, in that buffs are incredibly overpowered. So if you want easy mode, roll an Arcane Warrior, turn on your passives, and watch as you become an invincible slaughterhouse.
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>>322801996
All /u/ is shit. Piss off faggot.
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>>322800270
Inquisition fucked over Hawke so hard. I wanted to play as him/her so badly and have them join the team in some bigger capacity. Barely even had a chance to chill with Varric.

And now that she/he's possibly dead, we'll never get another chance.
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>>322801996
boring?
>that quest where you murder her fiancée
>that qt sister of hers
>that accent

She's best next to Dorian who just can't be topped
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>>322794948
This. Dwarf Age is the only way to play. Fuck em.
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>>322802348
Did you play Trespasser?
I'm far more hype for the Tevinter setting with slaves and blood magic, it's like a sjw dream
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>>322802570
Haven't played any DLC yet, still occupied with Witcher 3 at the moment. I'm glad we're getting more of the 'Vints, it's about time.
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>>322802370
Dorian is shit too. Only Varric is decent in that game.
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>>322802795
I'd strongly suggest getting at least Trespasser, the other 2 are so-so

The Descent is fucking hilarious
>david hayter as a dwarf
My god

>>322803201
>dorian is shit
Ill fight u fucking homo nigger
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>>322800338
you mix it with the bloodmage specialization and break the game. You're the only one who can do so because Morrigan and Wynne come with a specialization(though both make great Arcane Warriors, especially Wynne as a pseudo Paladin.) Max out both trees and then pick one branch of damaging spells you really enjoy, walk in, kill everything, beat game.
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>>322783634
Inquisition is really, really empty. Big and empty.

But it does have some interesting stuff regarding the Fade and the ancient elves at least.

Also best origins are City Elf, Dwarf Noble, and Human Noble.
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>>322802370
I'm pretty sure my Qunari topped Dorian
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>>322783634
>elf mage
Mah nigga. There are cool spell combinations (don't remember any, played long time ago) and you learn new classes from npcs.

If there is something I remember:
>you get blood mage from a titty demon in a castle
>there's a really cool spell that turns dudes into bombs
>if party members are happy they get a boost
>if an item looks like it belongs on a certain party member, use it on them
>you can pause combat
>the witch and the barbarian want you to be an asshole
>cool tank dude and rouge priest can be turned evil
>if it can be reasoned with, you can talk your way out of fights
>nobody is an enemy in absolute terms
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Which game added the best stuff to the lore? I'd say 3 was really great with the expansion on the fade and spirits.
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>>322783634
While we're at this
http://strawpoll.me/6427535
http://strawpoll.me/6427535

Vote for best elf
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>>322783634
3 mages 1 tank best party setup.
Do circle tower first.
You can live without a rogue
Warden's Keep DLC has some good armor.
Have somebody always keep haste on, even if it's just for traveling's sake.
Don't spoil yourself with the Dwarf quest.

Enjoy the lack of morality bar and feel free to act like a blood knight if you wish.
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>>322804692
While that is true a Rogue can be very valuable and if you have them go bard/archery/animal friends you get a 5th party member and a great buff machine.
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>>322804692
>3 mages 1 tank best party setup.

If he is a mage he can become an arcane warrior
at that point he won't need a fucking party.
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>>322804691
I fucking despise Merril but she's still the best, by virtue of breaking her will and spirit being that amusing, likely despite the intentions of the devs. It's one of the few fun parts of DA2.
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>>322804691
>Fenris so low
>Sera ahead of him

It's kinda sad. I really kinda liked him, even if he was pretty edgey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCq7jTL7tQ

I really hope we can see him in the next game, if only because of Solas being an asshole and trying to get rid of the Veil to bring magic back. Even if every other elf somehow goes along with Solas, I know for a fact Fenris will not stand for that shit

I really hope Bioware will let me play as muh City elf in the next game. Dallish are just not that interesting to play as.
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>>322804556
I'm playing 2 right now and it seems like there's several books or lore objects in each room which add a good amount.
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>>322804979
It's viable, I hear Leliana is pretty good later in the game. I guess I should change it to "plot wise" you will be fine without a rogue. In the few points where you NEED to unlock something you can switch her in.

AND I JUST REMEMBERED. Minor spoiler
Lothering gets rekt after you finish a main quest like the mage tower. Do all you can before if you actually care.
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>>322804691
Zevran is best elf followed by Fenris

Solas gets a consolation prize for at least being somewhat interesting.
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>>322805495
I hope they have more involved origins.

Tevinter Noble, Elf Slave, Qunari soldier
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LYRIUM
GHOSTS
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>>322804691
>4chan voting for JRPG wannabe characters like Fenris and Merril
That figures I guess.
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Anyone else feel like the actually canonical way to play each game is as a mage? I feel like that's what Bioware bases the games around.

Part of Origins is delving into ancient, forgotten places and gathering legendary items and learning old powerful types of magic. It feels weird to get all that shit and just hand it off to another party member. It also feels weird to be a normal warrior/rogue and be the sole hero in a war where you had to chop through thousands of darkspawn and kill a corrupted god. I know Female/Rogue/City Elf is supposed to be the default for Origins but it doesn't seem it. If you play a human mage your last name is Amell. And guess what? Hawke's mother is an Amell, which is a neat connection if you go down that route, even Cullen comments on it.

Hawke is obviously meant to be a mage from all the promo shit for DA2.

And the Inquisitor still seems like he/she should be a mage.
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>>322806169
Nah, DA:O canon character is human warrior and DA2 canon character is male mage hawke, I don't know about the inquisitor though.
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>>322805854
>Tevinter City Elf
>Leading against the shitshow free for all that's gonna start if/when the veil gets torn down

Calling it now. Tevinter Patriots vs Thedas/Common folk vs Solas vs Qunari vs Chantry vs Darkspawn free for all.

Whatever happened in the Fade when the Tevinter magisters broke through the Veil to make them Darkspawn is probably still there. Something that Solas may not actually know about. Are you cautiously hyped for absolute hell to go down when Solas opens the prison of the old Elven Mage rulers to find they're all hyper powerful Darkspawn?

Not quite a slave, but just shy of being one

PLEASE
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>>322806169
>Hawke is obviously meant to be a mage from all the promo shit for DA2.
I don't know man playing a mage in DA2 felt retarded as fuck. You go around the city with a robes and a glowing staff while casting spells left and right and no one gives a fuck
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>>322805962
Fenris only has one vote and Zevran is rightfully leading.

A shame, because Fenris is a fun character, despite being jrpg trash
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>>322806664
All designs in DA2 were somewhat JRPG-ish yet only Fenris gets shit for it. At least his look has backstory, most JRPGs do it "just because".
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>>322807083
>All designs in DA2 were somewhat JRPG-ish
Is that why the girls look almost attractive.
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>>322807083
I just hate his voice so much I don't know why it just sounds terrible and that voice actor is super common
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>>322806407
Canon as far as Inquisition goes is a female Dalish elf that sacrificed herself to kill the Archdemon.

Which is retarded because Morrigan's god baby still exists regardless.

It should have been a male mage or a male warrior since both lead to a lot more interesting points in the story. Like being a Cousland and not only killing Howe but taking back your home and using it as the seat of power for the Fereldan Wardens.
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>>322806664
Fun to antagonize, but that doesn't make him a good character. For both him and Merril you could just feel how fat and unwashed their writers were.
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>>322806569
They know you're a mage though, the head templar girl mentions it several times that even tho you're not in the Circle she tolerates you because you're a good influence on Kirkwall and stuff
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I am currently playing through inquisition and it is by far the best game I've played in years.
I never played 2 so I can't comment on that.
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>>322805962
All of the elves are shit. The only one worth voting for is the bitch because she's at least waifuable. Zevran is sex at most.
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>>322807251
Weird, the voice was his only redeeming quality for me.
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>>322807083
Avelyne was too mannish for Japan, Isabelle was too slutty. I've never seen a gay jihadist in a JRPG. There are shitheads and boring characters in JRPGs so I guess Carver and Bethany could be respectively, but nor do they jump out as such. Varric not really.
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>>322807493
I'm more of a fan of masculine voices, I get that he's this twinky little elf but I figured being a scarred warrior he'd sound a bit husky. Instead we got 'slightly annoyed bookworm' which makes any scene where he tries to be tough come off as super cheesy.
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>>322807414
Does gameplay/story proportion not bother you? I abandoned my first playthrough because I couldn't remember what I was supposed to be doing.
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>>322807426
I hate elves but honestly had little to no issues with Solas.
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>>322807685
Are we talking about the same elf? Fenris' voice is pretty deep.
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>>322807741
I tend to get crazy with the sidequests and put off doing anything major until I clean up the wartable. That usually leads to the story just disappearing for a couple hours before I side with the mages or templars and get dorian. Then I tend to stop playing...no clue why usually something less grindy grabs my attention.
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>>322807668
Sluttines and jihadism is a substance. I was talking about artstyle.
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>>322807917
2hander with the kinky tattoos from DA2? I dunno that didn't seem deep to me, deep is the arishok. or iron bull, or blackwall. Fenris had a boyish voice like Alistair but without the charm to carry it.
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>>322807957
And that's the best game you(ve played in years?
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>>322807414
Really? I played 2 and it was super shit and i was dissapointed with the direction mass effect went so i just gave up on bioware. If its anywhere close to origins i might pick it up.
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>>322807957
Oh sorry I wasn't the original Anon, it was definitely not the best game I've played in years. Yet it was a solid title, fills in the western rpg gap really nicely (I don't enjoy the witcher games).
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>>322808174
It's an offlline MMO with big zone filled with shitty fetch quest and a check list to complete
>inb4 leave the Hinterlands
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>>322808174
It's not, does not have the same depth, and your race doesn't feel like it matters much
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>>322808174
I originally also disliked 2 at lot as I played it on release but in hindsight it does so many things right, I can't help but love it

You should play it as a female mage however, anything else is flat out wrong
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>>322808727
>not female rogue
You're the wrongest pal
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>>322808837
>not playing a mage
>not having constant arguments with your faggot, eternally butthurt brother
>not understanding the PLIGHT OF MAGES

no u
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>>322808174
There is a lot to do you just won't enjoy doing it. The game plays the same on replays basically.
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>>322804691
Zevran is the best elf by so far it isn't even funny.
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So I played Inquistion when it first came out, almost to the end. Think the mission I stopped after was when Kieran went through the Eluvian.

Contemplating getting the DLC and restarting with a fresh character since I didn't like a lot of the decisions I made. Only thing that stops me are the incessant, shallow side-quests.

Is the DLC really good or not? I basically know what happens in each but that's not the same as playing it.
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We all agree that some form of The Circle is necessary right? Mages cannot be trusted to manage themselves. I always thought Vivienne had the right Idea on how to handle mages. Where do you all fall on the mage issue?
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>>322808993
>PLIGHT OF MAGES
Fuck mages, they're the reason everything is shit
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>>322808993
>eternally arguing with your brother
>not letting the fuck get infected in the deep roads and shipping him off to the Wardens for a better life
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>>322809086
Which Dlc?
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>>322809086
The only thing that stops you is shit you don't have to do?
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>>322809208
I think while Vivienne is broadly correct, she is a a bit too much of a Chantry apologist.
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>>322809086
The DLC for Inquisition is suprisingly great
>descent has cool deep roads again, also david hayter
>jaws of hakkon basically main game area in good
>Trespasser is absolutely fantastic, great story, actually great and interesting gear to equip and it adds some more time with the characters i guess
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So why else is hype for Tevinter?
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>>322809219
fuck non-mages, they ruin everything with their weak frail shitty selves

>>322809267
I did that on one playthrough, I found it neat he came back later on
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>>322809532
Will we still play the Inquisitor? Nigger was bland as fuck
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>>322809414
The Chantry is a great organization though they help so many people. It just needs a good leader, like Cass.
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>>322809639
Considering they lost an arm, probably not
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>>322804691
>Solas not being best elf
I agree that Zevran is super good, but Inquisition made me prefer Solas over him. Ancient elven mythological figure that wasn't really a god, but just a poor guy who wanted to make things right and made a mess - I loved that.

I never could stand Merrill, she is just too selfish and becomes even a bigger asshole if you try to make her understand that what she's doing is too dangerous and not worth it. Fenris was a solid character, I liked his development.
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>>322809532
>Hyped for anything Dragon Age after 2 and Inquisition, the former which was so bad that the lead designer left the company mid-production.
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>>322809639
He's fucked, but knowing Bioware and their current lack of writing talent, I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow brought him back.
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>>322809391
Jaws of Hakkon/Descent/Trespasser, so all of them

>>322809405
You need the power from side quests to progress through the main game. Even hunting down the fucking rifts all over the maps is a pain in the ass. Besides I typically play RPGs as a completionist and it is annoying that there are that many quest markers on the map but none of them are interesting.
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>>322809694
If it's like in my Chinese cartoon it will make him stronger
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>>322809995
>Jaws of Hakkon/Descent/Trespasser, so all of them
Thought you were talking about Origins for some reason. I wouldn't bother desu
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>>322804556
Inquisition, without a doubt. All the codex entries were really interesting and intrigued me A LOT.

>that codex entry where a magister speaks with an intelligent darkspawn
>that codex entry about the true meaning of Fen'Harel's name
>all those dates and historical figures, timelines, details about monarchies, priesthood, and nations, descriptions of the various holidays, diary pages etc.

Say what you want about Bioware, but the DA team put tons of effort into the lore of the series - I didn't see the same kind of attention and love for details in ME
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>tfw they will bring back the inquisitor as a non-playable character in DA4
>rather than retain the personality you gave him, he will be an edgy, stoic blob
>he will have a mechanical arm
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>>322809639
It seems hinted that the Inquisitor will come back, even without one arm (a problem that could be solved by giving them a prostethic/magical arm).

Trespasser gave me the idea that they will still be involved deeply in the future ("We will save our friend from himself", "We have what we truly need to continue"). Solas is their responsibility after all and I can't really see a new character getting thrown into this whole mess out of the blue.
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>>322810324
Me1 had pretty good codex and some of it was even voiced.
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>>322810916
Yeah, but everything went downhill from ME2. They even got some things wrong because the number of writers had decreased dramatically and they couldn't remember what they had established in the first game.

DA has always been monitored by the same team who created it, more or less, so it has a more refined codex.
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>>322785245
>its also regarded as the least liked area

The fucks wrong with you?
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>>322810630
>punished "venom" inquisitor
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The hell?
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>>322813237
You're surprised /v/ is full of idiots?
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>DA: 2
>Blood+Force mage
>mfw
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>>322813237
It has a few votes from /dag/, who've been shitposted by Zevran, Fenris, Solas lovers into oblivion.

Zevran is MOASTE
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>>322810630
>Inquisitor
>personality

>>322813237
Sera is actually fun, especially if you don't like ordinary elves. And you shouldn't.
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>mfw playing human noble womyn
>mfw murdering cuck anora and her shitty uncle
>mfw making myself queen by marrying alistair

It's the only way to play t b h


>>322814201
I agree, she has some nice bants with Dorian about magic, and her voice acting is semi decent desu, it's just the god awful writing
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>>322814201
the only fun thing about sera is agreeing with that dude she hates who killed her friends or something and see her go boo hoo before kicking her out
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>>322783634
>/v/ told me in various occasions that this is the only good Dragon Age game, is that true?
Yes.
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>>322816062
>force him to work for the inquisition
>Sera approves and you get another slave
It was fun, yeah.
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>>322814201
>>Sera is actually fun, especially if you don't like ordinary elves. And you shouldn't
Na man, I approached Sera with a charitable attitude and she still pissed me off. I remember that one side mission she wants to make some drop off and it goes to shit. I tell her afterwards, in a reasonable fashion, that this inquisition stuff is important and to stop with the Mickey Mouse shit, and she was just all REEEE FUCK YOU FASCIST. I was like aight, fuck you too bitch.
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