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I feel kinda cheated.

EVERYONE insisted artorias was difficult/amazing boss to fight, but
I literally just walked into his boss fog and bashed his face in with my Demon Great Machete.


SL90. fastrolling pigknight. Was I overlevelled?

Maybe I pvp too much
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oh well, I hope manus is more of a challenge.
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No, learning to dodge and roll through attacks and retaliate with massive ultra weapon damage shits on everything in the game.

Greatshield and heavy armor also makes him trivial, as Arty relies mainly on strong single hits to do damage, none of which have enough oomph to get through the stability of a decent greatshield such as Black Iron or Havel's shields. Then you retaliate with some R2 or a couple of R1s and melt his HP
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>>322736728
I never use a shield.
It seems the same technique I use in pvp still applies to pvp, considering I staggerlocked artorias.

Cant use r2s on demon great machete, just jumping R2s.

Oh well, dodgeroll 4lyfe
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holy fuck, just got invaded 4 times in a row before I could light the bonfire after artorias.
3 reds, and 1 blue.

I think the blue was overlevelled, since he dropped 43000 souls when I killed him.

reds all seemed average levels though, since they dropped like 3000-10k a piece

finally lit the bonfire.
holy fuck
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>DLC at SL90
You did this to yourself, lol.

You might still be able to salvage the challenge by going there again in NG+3
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I can't even beat the two guys at Anor Londo
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>>322739391
summon me t b h f a m
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>>322739530
I got invaded twice by some asshole while trying to get to them, even.
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>>322739583
Summon me if on PEECEE

what level
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>>322739642
level 53
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>>322736485
>SL90
I think yeah
I felt like I was over leveled and I beat the DLC at SL60
But really it's about what kinda challenge you want and how you feel like playing the game
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>>322736485
>I literally just walked into his boss fog and bashed his face in with my Demon Great Machete.
Typical melee baby. When are you going to grow up and unlock the game's hidden hard mode by rolling a caster class?
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>>322739838
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>>322739675
sorry, I forgot. I was actually 61 when I dropped this game a few days ago. lol

where's your sign
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>>322739937
one minute
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>>322736683
Manus was like 3x as hard for me.
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>>322736485
>Maybe I pvp too much
>oh jeez maybe i am getting too good at the game for this challenge to seem hard
Wow, really? You think?
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>>322739937
OKAY
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I had to play it on console because
i literally failed to put a controller in my pc, it was too hard for me
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>>322740405
where's this. I meant the Dragonslayer and the fatty
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>>322736485
Most of his attacks are straightforward and have obvious timings making it not that hard.

Its still a fun fight but fume knight and sir alonne from das2 are similar fights but better.
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>>322740513
THE BONFIRE
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High stability shields destroy EVERYTHING in Souls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoBVlBE_Gc
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SHOULD I MOVE TO THE BOSS DOOR?
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>>322740803
I'm not sure which bonfire that is, yeah just go to the boss door. I might not even be able to see you anyway.
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>>322736485
Did you play Bloodborne first? Artorias will be piss then, since he's just every human BB boss but slowly, does less damage, has less health and doesn't have as large a moveset.
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>>322740868
DO YOU SEE ANY SIGNS AT THE DOOR?
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>>322739583
god damn I miss twinking in Dark Souls

I'll install it right now and invade in the undead berg and surrounding areas.
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The only tip for artorias is rolling and dodging his attacks. If that's the first approach you tried, then with some luck and skill, no wonder you beat him
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>>322741035
I'm not at the door yet, hold on
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>>322741035
>>322741142
all I see are orange message signs lol
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>>322741039
>god damn I miss twinking in Dark Souls
>twinking

Can we please think of a better name for this? Thinking is not only extremely gay sounding, it is literally fucking gay.

You may have some gay tendencies for using the word as well.
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>>322740617
>Dark Souls is hard
kek
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>>322741039
All that will happen is that you will get twinked on instead
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>>322741243
WAIT FOR IT SHOW UP I DUNNO
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>>322741245
nah it's OK. i'm downloading it now.


gonna get my twink on soon
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>>322741278
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>>322741254
>Maxed stamina
>Good shield
>Clorianthy ring
>The other ring that boosts everything
It's not like he didn't put thought into it, buddy
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>>322741430
>the most basic items everyone who's ever played the game will equip within 5 hours of playtime
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>>322736683
Manus is one of the easier bosses if you have the item from Oolacile which blocks those dark orb attacks. His melee shit is all easily avoidable.
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>>322741386
The way it works is weird.

You're standing right where it would be, so go back to the main menu and load back in until you see it.

Wait a few minutes each time though they don't show up right away.
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>>322741507
>Everyone
These are the rings you and I will probably go for and we will probably level stamina until level 40 at least but that's not everyone, let alone in 5h.
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>>322741254
>dark souls is easy
zozzle
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>>322741386
>That spear
Well there's your problem.
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>>322741629
I've spent a lot of time trying to get the Demon Spear, it hasn't dropped for me yet
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>>322741585
Stamina ring and Favour ring are within like the first 2 hours of the game, and even when I played DaS for te first time I was aware END was more important than VIT straight off the bat.

The only time DaS is hard is if you purposely go out of your way not to use the items that are thrown at you, and if you're too dumb to realise you can upgrade your weapons to do more damage.
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>>322741797
Then try harder. Using lightning against Hammersmith and Apollo is not a good idea.
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>>322741797
One of Smough/Ornstein is weak to lightning but the other is resistant. Cannot remember which although the opposite is true with fire so if you figure it out maybe upgrade a fire weapon to swap out.
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>>322741816
>Ring of Favour and Protection
>First two hours
Maybe on NG+ or speed running.
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>>322741963
I mean the one who is weak to fire resists lightning and vice-versa, holy fuck I cannot into English today
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>>322736485
If that is the case, the only real challenge left in PvE is rolling SL1 and not using pyromancy.

Do what I did. Do that, clear everyone but Gwyn, then have fun seeing just how many people you can kill anywhere you please. Not just fishing for unskilled lowbies, but catching people off guard on a run deep in the game. It is satisfying killing someone who blatantly outgears / outlevels you with nothing but skill.

Here is what I run. The "Help me! Carving" and "I'm Sorry Carving" are the other two items I have on me at all times, but they weren't on the list.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=cHlyb21hbmNlciwxMCwxMiwxMSwxMiw5LDEyLDEwLDgsMCw1MSw1MSw0OCw1MSwzLDMxLDcyLDExMywxNTMsMCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsMCw0Miw3MSwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDksd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLDEsMCwwLDM3LDEwLDI3LDAsMA==
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>>322741993
Wat, it took you more than 2 hours to get to the Gargoyles on your first playthrough?

No wonder you're think the game is hard.
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man, forget it. I died and lost humanity lmao
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>>322742082
Wait, nevermind I realise how you got it now.

I'm used to both instances for getting it being in Anor Londo.
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>>322741245
That has been the term for this very thing for at least 20 years. Time to get the fuck over it.
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>>322742046
>not using pyromancy
>has pyromancy flame in his build

ISHYGDDT
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>>322742196
Sheeit nigga no wonder, I killed that motherfucker straight off the bat after he did that hilariously villainous laugh after I let him free.

Was pretty pissed I didn't get his armour first playthrough cause of it though.
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>>322742124
I'm just gonna keep farming for that Demon Spear.

I got summoned and i died with the 2nd form at half hp lol. hope that guy pulled through
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>>322740520
Fume Knight was designed to be a literal casual filter though.
>mixes up his combos
>most shields are useless because his swings consume too much stamina and deal a lot of elemental damage
>heals during the fight if you're too dumb to not de-activate the ashen idols
>sidestrafing and hugging his butt is useless cause he has moves to punish that
>staying too far is useless since he will just spam plunge attacks
>summoning phantoms is risky since he gets a bazillion of bonus HP, damage and resistances
>will always target the person who heals
Like, everything about him was made to punish retards
Alonne is pretty good as well, but his difficulty comes from the fact that he randomizes the delay between his swings.
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>>322742365
>Killing someone based on their evil laugh.
Was everyone dead by the end of your play through?
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>>322742532
Nah, he was the only one I killed
>in prison
>maniacal laugh
>edgy armour
I knew that nigga was Yurt 2.0.
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>>322742350
The PvE part without pyromancy. I didn't say I do not use it in PvP. Take 3 secodns to look at contextual clues. You think I run around with Red Eye Orb and carvings for PvE?

My main focus is to try to toxic people for fun first, hence the Toxic Mist and Dung Pie. If that doesn't work, time to try to kill them the normal way. Black Flame is more of an "Oh shit!" backup plan rather than my go to "Shut Up And Spam" strategy.
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>>322741963
Smough is weak to lightning, fire, poison, toxic, bleed, and loses that lightning weakness in phase 2.
Ornstein has no weaknesses, but fire does okay damage.
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>>322739391
Just beat them on my SL1 character for the first time yesterday. Shit was gold.
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>>322741278
i've been reading this chain of communications as if the participants are engaging in coded ERP
i find it hilarious
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>>322743605
how much damage do you do
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>>322742519

>dodge centered boss in the game where you can do a perfect dodge with 99 adaptability towards the attack and still take full damage while the animation is going and the sword is miles away
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>>322743947
I didn't even get to summon him and I died to some fucking silver knight.

I literally hate this game
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>>322743986
Can't remember right now but when i beat them yesterday i had a +15 normal pyro glove and a +11 battle axe.
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>SL1 run
>Pull hair out at Biggie Smalls
>Pull hair out at 4kids
>Pull hair out at Artorias
>Currently at Kalameet
I just can't do it
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>>322744298
what's the point of being SL1? you can't wear heavy armor, right?
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>>322739391
Equip Havels Ring and the Stone Armor. Kill the one with the spear first and the one with the hammer second. If you really have problems summon Solaire and fight whoever Solaire isn't fighting.
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>>322739838
>Caster
>hard

Master bait
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>>322744298
Make a +14 weapon. Elemental weapons will do fucking nothing to him.
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>>322739838
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I played the dlc at SL10, Kalameet was the worst that fucker took hours while the guardian and Artorias when down on the third try and Manus took 6.
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you should be in the DLC at ~SL50 but I mean, whatever

no reason you can't go back to the golem anyway
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>>322744539
why not +15?
darkwraiths at new londo drop slabs
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>>322744685
Slab drop rate is 0.5%. Not worth it.
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>>322744539
For Sl1 wouldn't a Raw weapon be better.

No need for scaling if you barely have any stats.
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>>322745208
humanity 10+
Gold covetous ring.

I got a couple after an hour or so
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>>322745341
I thought Humanity and Serpent Ring didn't work together.

Or does the wiki lie?
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>>322745217
Raw is equivalent to +12 normal and only lowers scaling by 17% or so.
Scaling still matters on raw weapons.
Raw is just trash in DaS1.
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>>322745341
>An hour of farming

Might as well use CE for that shit.
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coming in from the drake valley side lets you farm dragon scales as well, so thats a good idea too
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>>322744298
Just cleared biggie smalls and 4 kings yesterday.
For biggie smalls, use pyro for ornstein and take your time baiting. When it's just smough left, shit gets easy.

For 4 kings, just run there from firelink shrine, equip havels with 20 estus and tank the fight
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>>322745443
the wiki is fucking run by kids.
Your drop rate increases very much by combining the two together

I have 210 Item discovery at 99 humanity, and 410 with gold ring and 99 humanity.

>>322745457
how impatient are you? is this bait?
At least you can use darkwraiths to practice your parrying.
PcMustards are embarassing.
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>>322745678
>Killing Hammersmith last
It's like you don't want to collect the four rings and the best weapon.
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>>322745821
But he did get the best weapon.
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>>322745821
Why have the best weapons when you cant even equip them?
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>>322745443
the wiki lies.

hell, you can even check your "item discovery stat" in your stats page.
Item discovery goes up, as humanity and the ring both contribute around 200 something item discovery
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>>322744298
Here's a tip: lightning works on him and a good strategy I found useful is to cast chaos storm when he goes for the grab attack. It will hit him numerous times and make the fight a lot easier.
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>>322745457
>disingenuous fucks want to be handed shit even when the game allows you to subvert grinding.
Pc mustards, huh.
lets not play the actual video game and be handed things on a silver platter
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>>322745815

Well excuse me for not being a NEET
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>>322745821
but lightning reinforced club +5 is the best weapon
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>>322746361
Currently playing SL1 build with +15 battle axe. Am i missing out?
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>join Forestfags on new character the other day
>use cat ring just to get the ring of fog despite the fact that I never use it
>only one guy available to invade, clearly has set up an honor duel system
>I'm like SL45 with middling gear, haven't even gone to Sen's yet, while he and his duel buddies have demon weapons and other lategame shit
>can't cut it in a one on one battle so I wait until he's done with a duel and then try to gank his remaining health, which works a couple times
>he actually begins to summon a dude he'd been dueling with just to kill me when I invade
>I decide to hang way back and wait for someone to kill him, which never happens because he's god
>gets to buttmad that after coming back from getting a drink I find he's unequipped himself and began trying to punch me off a ledge while his buddy watches; I backstab him but he doesn't go off the ledge so I roll over it and die
>just keep going back and hiding until he dies so I can get my dumb ring
I don't know if I should feel bad or not.
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i dont see how people liked this game it was boring with its bullshit hitboxes and slow gameplay, shitty muh humanity lore and clunky mary sue combat
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>>322744396
Depends how well you wanna roll. You CAN roll anything, you just can't level up.
Point is "because you can".
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>>322746261
no, excuse you for not getting good.
the "grind" is hardly a "grind"
plus, you literally 1shot all the darkwraiths on a BS or Parry counter.

you are literal shit, if you think its tough to get a slab.

The covetous gold ring is shit easy to get and
most people have 99 humanity lying around from pvp anyway.

youre literally "that guy", anon. the lazy, entitled fuck that doesnt want to play the actual video game to make progress.
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I have my summon sign down in that Anor Londo room if anyone needs a summon. I'm the one with the great scythe. SL55
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>>322746594
PLEASE STOP FORCING THIS MEME
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>>322744024
>spreading lies on the internet
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>>322736485
Maybe you should just realize that Dark Souls is not as hard as everyone says it is

Artorias is meant to be fun and cool. He's not the hardest boss in the game
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>>322746440
+15 reinforced club got me through a bit better.
them jump attacks saved my ass many a time

>>322746471
nah, dont feel bad.
Forest covenant players get abused waaaay too much by everyone else. do anything you can to win.
I know I did.
Ring of fog is nice, it cuts peoples lock range by a vast amount
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>>322746440
You tell me
http://mmdks.com/7vkp

At least you have something for Kalameet
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>>322746594
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8
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Artorias was by far the hardest boss in my bow only run. He took literal chip damage from me. I stopped playing for like a month after dying to him so many times.

Then I decided to start up the game and go for another shot at him. Right before a fog gate, I read a message, "Weakness: left" and that was all I needed to beat him in one go.
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>>322746636

No, it's an hour of my time that I could spend actually playing the game, not repeating the same act over and over again. But then again this is what video games are.
Not everyone has the prestige to pour time exclusively for vidya, I do it when I can, as much as I can because I fucking love playing games.

Also, it has nothing to do with 'git gud'
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>>322746836
OP here.

I dont enforce or believe in "dark souls is hard/easy"
Personally, I feel its fair.

But everyone had hyped this up for me, including some friends, who died to him multiple times while co-oping.

I was just expecting more.
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>>322745815
>>322746186
>consolefags make fun of PCfats for grinding in videogames
>and make fun of PCfats for skipping grinding in videogames
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>>322745443
The wikia and the fextralife are garbage, the wikidot is amazing.
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>>322746993
if you really loved it, you'd just spend a single session, or multiple sessions getting those chunks.

I know I have,
and Im a wagecuck that works >50 hours a week. I look forward to getting that slab
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>>322736485
>difficult/amazing
>Artorias

He's just amazing.
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>>322747418
I don't know man, I farmed it before. All I need is 1.
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>>322747208
because you suck at both.
youre an overtly meme-obsessed community that kills/poisons every franchise's community on PC release.

Souls is an example of this.
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>>322742519
>Raime had to git gud and stop using his shield like a scrub
>to beat him you have to git gud and stop using your shield like a scrub
It's like pottery
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>>322747517
max item discovery is 410 with humanity and gold ring.

That +15 aint gonna make itself.

plus imagine all the fuckers you could kill with that weapon. thats what keeps me going, Im a huge pvpfag.
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>>322747637
>DaS wasn't memester before the PC release
>MGR wasn't memester before the PC release

infuckingplying

also
>because you suck at both.
what do you even mean by that?
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>>322747517
Stray Demon has one
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>>322747646
aaaahhhhh my sides.
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>>322747646
He still blocks with his UGS though, and thats also one of the things that sets him apart from other bosses.
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>>322738207
why is there no third piece per arm?
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>>322745938
>Reach
>Decent damage
>Lightning damage
>B DEX scaling
>B FTH scaling
>Belongs to the knight-captian
>Not the best weapon.

You tried.
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>>322747802
DaS at least wasnt full of casualfucks blowing the "meta" gaming trend out their arse.
when Im talking about memes, I mean overusing the shit out of context.
Steam forums is a good example.

As for sucking at both,

A. your complaining is an example of sucking at grinding
and
B. Cheat engine has been getting people softbanned/put in low prio queus more and more frequently as of late.
I personally dont recommend CE as you run risk of being stuck with fuck ton of hacks in low-priority servers.
And you dont ever get OUT of those.
Game has been tightening up its item flagging, even offline yo.

Cases of softban so far:
-person had a friend drop slab for him
-person actually completed game without dying or levelling in DaS
-Person attained both the rings for not dying and not lighting bonfires in DaS2 at the same time

none of these people were even using CE.
But it shows how volatile the servers are. dont tempt it, anon.
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>>322747948
That's 'cause the Fume UGS is the best pvp shield in the game for people good with it
Master those instant block cancels + roll blocks and you're a god
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>>322748454
>DaS at least wasnt full of casualfucks blowing the "meta" gaming trend out their arse.
can you elaborate on that? how can they be casuals while exploiting the meta?
>when Im talking about memes, I mean overusing the shit out of context.
>Steam forums is a good example.
I'm talking about /v/, I barely visit other websites that involve videogame discussion.

>A. your complaining is an example of sucking at grinding
it wasn't me complaining about grinding, but regardless, you can't 'suck' at grinding, it takes time, not skill

unless it involves doing something very hard of course, but usually grinding is made on a section that requires little to no skill, otherwise you'll fuck up eventually and that'll slow down the grinding... unless of course the reward is huge, but that's a specific case

>B. Cheat engine has been getting people softbanned/put in low prio queus more and more frequently as of late.
I personally dont recommend CE as you run risk of being stuck with fuck ton of hacks in low-priority servers.
cheat engine does bring issues with online ban systems fucking innocent people over, yeah, but that's not the cheat engine's fault, it's the ban system's fault (or rather, whoever created and implemented it)
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>tfw probably died more to slippery surfaces and platforming than anything else on my first playthrough
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>>322749395
Those are THE worst anon THE WORST!
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>>322736485
Why do people create threads to brag? We don't care what you did, bruh. You think a virtual accomplishment makes you special? Fuck off.
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>played DS with a shield most of the time
>played DS2 without one and found it fun
>decide to try to do the same on DS
>NG++
>get to Smough and Ornstein
>Die 30 times
>quit
The game beat me. I can't do it.
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>>322749849
It's just a thinly veiled excuse for us to have Souls thread.
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>>322749061
>DaS at least wasnt full of casualfucks blowing the "meta" gaming trend out their arse.
can you elaborate on that? how can they be casuals while exploiting the meta?

Because 90% of the time, there isnt actually a "Meta"
its the fault of a very vocal minority that whines about non-issues that gets things removed from the game
See
-golf-club swings on greatswords DaS2
people whining about it have obviously never played DeS and its stormruler sword pvp
-Black wood grain ring nerf, DaS
-all-around dagger nerfs, DaS2
-nerfs to greatshield jump attack tracking, DaS2

etc. the list goes on, but more towards DaS2, which is heavily played/populated by PC players. especially since DaS is a pain to get working, and other titles just arent available

things being broken was never an issue for demons souls, and the pvp in that game is remarkably fun, no matter what build you are playing, simply BECAUSE everything was broken.

Lastly, the reward for the grind IS huge.
A titanite slab is very important. especially since the last upgrade gets you over that last breakpoint for damage, in most cases.

DaS2 subverts the grind and makes it shit easy though imo.
>I'm talking about /v/, I barely visit other websites that involve videogame discussion.
Personally, I say keep it that way, lately this place seems to be the last bastion of sane discussion of vidya, without cringey 9gag or doge crap, upvotes, facebook links, and normalfags.

thank moot for anonymous imageboards, where you dont have to be an entitled poweruser to state your god honest opinion.
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>>322749395
THIS MOTHERFUCKING THING
literally my worst nightmares.

4kings went down easier than this, legitimately.
I killed biggie smalls 1st try.
BUT THIS TREE BRANCH.....
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>>322749395
Holy shit tought I was the only one in the world
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>>322749849
no, OP legitimately was wondering if he spoiled the fun for himself
also, last souls thread hit bump limit.

I did. Not my fault I forgot to buy the dlc until I was at endgame though.
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>>322750192
that's all the dev's fault in my opinion, listening to your fanbase can be very dangerous

example: Hoth changes in Battlefront, from open Beta to Release, Hoth was infinitely more fun on the Beta
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i know you can get a softban in dark souls 2 for using CE but what about this one?
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>Dark Souls boss looks cool but is a great disappointment gameplay wise
Gee boss, that never happened before.
Souls game have garbage bossfights, there is not a single good one in DaS1 or 2.
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>>322749395
Fromsoft had a huge issue with surface angle in DaS.
Anything at or above 45 degrees, and you slip to your doom.
this is the worst on any organic path, like tree branches where the edges are rounded and have massive fall zones that you cant see.

Crystal cave also has a couple paths that are at precisely 45 degrees that look safe, but really arent.

DeS had the issue too, especially since there was 0 gravity, so your fall angle was huuuuuge you were like to slip off a platform you DID land correctly on. at least Dex reduced fall damage, DaS2 avoided this entirely, plus equips that reduced fall damage.
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>>322749395
>this entire area
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>>322750758
you take that back
I love co-opping biggie smalls almost as much as I love pvp
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>oh hey, this game is pretty cool
>some bullshit here and there, but it's still great, lovin' the game
>platforming sections begin

who thought this was a good idea? jesus christ
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>>322744594
>>322744505
>>322739893
>dude is clearly being ironic
>BAIT BAIT BAIT
Do you faggots not understand irony anymore or do you just post your meme pictures every time someone tries to make a joke?

Also anyone who uses magic as their main way of attacking instead of as a sidearm/support is a literal baby.
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>>322750535
I hope from just does what they do and never listens to people ever again, except for literal game-breaking bugs.
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>>322750990
That exact spot is 100% cancer. It's the same in the 360 version. At least you don't die there easily, even if it catches you off guard. You can just hold towards the platform and walk left, like you did.
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>>322737285
Oolacile is a PvP hotspot.
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>>322751197
I think they should look into what people mention, but not just go ahead and try to normalize everything. Both extremes are equally as bad. If I could choose I'd rather have them make everything unique strong instead of nerfing what's already unique and strong.
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>>322751134
the meta meme is to make the joke about the joke that has already been overjoked.

I know people IRL who think magic actually makes the game harder.
Its Poes Law in action
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

with this in, people tend to weed out shit posts more and more, to protect the integrity of a community.
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>>322736485
>ever being above sl60

Only reason to go further is new game + and above
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>>322750990
I fucking hate the Great Hollow. Worst area in the game for me, even worse than Izalith because at least you can turn your brain off and it's over quickly, with the Great Hollow you actually have to plan ahead and be careful with a system not built for platforming.
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>>322751461
Int builds are so much harder.
Magic doesn't do enough damage per hit and is a limited resource with each spell locking you into an animation. All while your character is squishy

The easiest way to play dark souls by far is fast rolling while two handing a greatsword
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>>322751595
>ever being above SL 30
only reason to go further is if you're bad
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>>322751852
you're full of shit, ever get out of the undead burg and into seaths archives?
http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Hyper+mage
also, not using SOME form of scaling int weaponry is just gimping yourself.
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>>322750319
you'll slip from those branches if you aren't running. Stupid artificially difficult mechanic.
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>>322752036
>going above SL 1
>going above SL 1 in pvp
wow, its as if you cant get good.
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>>322746781
What the fuck does mary sue combat mean?
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>>322752394
>using anything but the broken straight sword
scrublords
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>>322752838
>Broken Straight Sword
When you're ready to join the adults ditch that weapon and get to punching.
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>>322752838
>tfw they nerfed the pain train build in ds2
sad feels
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>>322753412
>punching
Give the real adults a call when you can use your big boy words and do a diplomacy run.
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>>322752324
There are no good int weapons until you reach the painted world or cut off Seefs tail. And good luck with that as an int build only way to do it is crystal soul weapon on a crystal helbard and hope to get lucky

Int builds are harder and less fun because of how finicky they are.

I could spend hours setting up the ideal int build all while being squishy and dealing with locked spell animations, or I can pick up a big stick and deal more damage, get in more hits and have a way easier time dodging
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>>322736485

Artorias has the most telegraphed moves in the game.

The only one that's hard to see coming is POCKET DARKNESS.

People love him so much because of his look and lore.
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>>322755342
Magic/enchant improved weapons make for good int weapons
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>>322755342
Nah m8. Int build are easier than str/dex builds. Almost as good melee damage with infused weapons, better with weapon enchantments and utterly broken spells that enemies have no way of countering
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