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Which is butter?
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I like them both.
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This one
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>>322709234
At the time of release? Vll
Now? X
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>>322709234
Tbh
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X desu, best turn based battle system in the series plus fuck loads of content
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>>322709402
This shit is fucking good.

>>322709321
This shit is candle wax.
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>>322709402
>irishfags thinking that butter is top shit
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>>322709402
>>322709904
my nigga
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>>322709234
I believe neither of them.
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Pa k kieres saber jaja saludos
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>>322709321
>eating the processed fluid extracted from a cows tit that is meant for baby cows

Human biology is not designed to process and digest that shit and it is better if you cut it out completely, same with bread
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>>322710832
but i just digested some yesterday
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>>322711097
You're full of shit
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>>322710832
>designed
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>>322710832
>designed
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I like X more, although it probably has more problems than VII.

Overall though, the tropical feel is comfy as hell and the game itself feels like it has a fairly unique aesthetic, where-as the grimy tech fantasy of VII feels fairly generic.

I like both of them though.
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VII. X is where the series started going downhill.
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X had slightly better combat.

VII had better everything else.
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>>322709234

10 has the better battle system.

7 has better customization for the inferior battle system.

7 has a better atmosphere, but 10's is more immersive.

Opinions opinions, but 10 is probably "objectively" better.
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whichever one you played first
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>>322711854
>X is where the series started going downhill

Considering XII feels nothing like X and XIII's only resemblance is linearity (Something the games have had since the PS1 era, sure there was an overworld, but it wasn't like you could actually go to that many places) I think that's a pretty dumb opinion senpai.

I want this meme to die
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>>322712319

You're right, there series went downhill with 12.
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>>322712445
But 12 was good anon.
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VII is butter
X is margarine
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>>322712519

lmao
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>>322712519

You might have liked it, but it was in no way a good game.
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7 is superior by a million miles.

Only people born after 7's release will disagree.
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>>322712519
The combat in 12 was bad enough to ruin everything else that was good about that game. I play regular RPGs specifically to fucking avoid the garbage battle systems that make up MMOs.
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>>322712868
I was born before 7, played 7 first, and disagree. They're both good games, though.
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>>322713080

You're full of shit.
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>>322709234
What's the best way to play FFX? The original or HD remaster?
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>>322709234
7 > 10
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>>322712974
The combat is the same shit as the other games just in a 3d plane. I don't see what's not to like.
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>>322709234
VII
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CRISIS CORE
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>>322709234
I've played every single main-series FF entry and liked them all except 10 and 13 which I absolutely loathed.

4, 5, 6, and 7 are the best in no particular order.
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>>322713080

I find it hard to believe anyone born in the 80s would prefer linear fantasy over 7's world map with weapons flying and swimming around.
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>>322709234
7. It's not even a competition. Might as well ask if I want to eat pizza or diarrhea covered in vomit.
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>>322713615
but how would you rate the Dragon Quest games?
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>>322713209
Hd remaster is better in every way.
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>>322713615
But what is the best of those?
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>>322713948
Thanks, I'm thinkin' you're right.
May pick it up whenever I get a ps4
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>>322709234
FFX has a pretty great endgame that requires plenty of exploration and overpowering your favorite characters. The level up system is also pretty nice.

Besides that, it's a boring, shitty, and annoying game overall. I hated the characters, very few of the bosses were challenging at all, the story was insanely fucking obnoxious IT'S NOT A SURPRISE THAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PILGRIMAGE IS TO SACRIFICE YUNA! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO """""HINT""""" AT IT FOR THE WHOLE GAME AND THEN HAVE TIDUS BREAK DOWN IN TEARS! FUCK YOU! And goddamn, did Tales of Symphonia love the plot so much that they had to rip it off? Give me a fucking break.

FF7 had it's absurdly stupid moments (everything leading up to Areith's sacrifice was always iffy to me) but, for the most part, it handled its story arcs and plot twists far more effectively. The endgame isn't nearly as good (Chocobo breeding takes for fucking ever and Ruby and Emerald are on some other shit, fucking hell) and the characters being pretty much interchangeable, thanks to the materia system, was a major fault to me. That said, despite being interchangeable, the characters themselves were much more memorable than in FFX, as were the environments.

FFX is better at the very end, with all the optional shit, but FF7 is better throughout.
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>>322713786
I have only played the first 3 so I can't really say, but I have very fond memories of them.

Especially Dragon Quest 1 which was my first console RPG and one of the first NES games I owned.
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>>322713980
6 is my personal favorite.
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>>322713153
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night bud.

>>322713678
I do, how does my age predict what kind of games I'm gonna like? Do you think shit like Astrology works too?
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>>322714191
>FF7 had it's absurdly stupid moments (everything leading up to Areith's sacrifice was always iffy to me
what's wrong with that? Just got past that point and I thought it was a lot better than when I played it as a kid
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>>322713693

Hyperbole aside, 7 is better.

X is still fun though. You guys really go way too far with your negative opinions. I used to as well, but I think I'm like, getting older or something.
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>>322714203
I'm playing through Dragon Quest 1 (super famicom remake) now and enjoying it a lot even by todays standards. Glad to see someone with fond memories.
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>>322714364

this deflection further proves you're full of shit
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I prefer 10, but both are good.
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>>322714203

Dude, play 5 next time you feel the itch for that type of game. You'll probably at the very least like it.
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X was my first FF and VII was my 2nd or 3rd

VII is better
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>>322712445
I never got very far in 12. Fran had just gone berserk and I think the heroes fought a Judge, oh and I think the heroes found some big deal of a sword in an ancient temple or something. I also remember Fran's village in the trees.

Anyway, I liked what I played a lot and I've been meaning to give it another try sometime. Can anyone explain to me why it's such an awful game, without spoiling it please? I think I remember super moves being overpowered and too easy to do (a similar issue I had with Skies of Arcadia) and I can see the indirect control over the party being annoying at times, but not as bad as Persona 3 though. Did the game just not appeal with most players? Was it too far off from what fans expected?
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7.

Only people who would think X is better as a whole were underage when X was released.
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>>322714658
Cry about it, manchild
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>>322713532
GOAT
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>>322714753

The story grinds to a halt after the first 10 or so hours in and turns into a hunt for magic rocks and other plot coupons that don't end up doing anything. You travel across empty terrain after empty terrain, accomplishing nothing, and your party members don't even banter with each other.
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>>322713948
Fuck off. Tidus looks like a retarded baby in the HD version.
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>>322714738
Sounds like a plan, I'll add it to my list. Thanks.
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>>322709234
X has a better leveling system, better combat, better music, and better graphics. Both have decentish world plots (relative to other FFs), and both have annoying characters.
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>>322714903

Crying about what?

Your bullshit claims?

kek
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>>322715156
Lel, that wasn't even me faggot. your asspain is just THAT obvious.
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>>322709234
The one you play first
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>>322714386
Cloud gets possessed by Sephiroth (mysterious possesion is a cliche I've always found to be lazy in stories) and Aerith is like "fuck that I'm not hanging around this bozo BUT I'm gonna see if I can do something about this Sephiroth guy A.K.A. the licensed Cetra hunter." The plot very quickly and very suddenly writes Aerith into a corner where she becomes this great sacrifice that grants everyone a chance at stopping Meteor, which, by the way, wasn't even summoned yet and it's Cloud's fault that a bunch of shit went down the way it did anyway.

To me, it sounds way more convoluted than it needs to be and I feel like a lot of shit could've been easily avoided, so the writers came up with some plot points out of their ass and shoved it in there. I feel like it could've been handled better.
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>>322715292

right..
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>>322709234
X is my favorite game in the series and VII comes in 2nd.

I've yet to play IX though.
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>>322715008
Oh that sounds like it fucking sucks. I feel like I must've stopped playing right before it would've started going downhill. I'll still play through it sometimes but I can understand if the middle of the game turns into a never ending drag.
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>>322715008
I wish the magic rocks were at least useful in terms of gameplay so it'd be worthwhile to go through all of that bother.
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>>322712319
>(Something the games have had since the PS1 era, sure there was an overworld, but it wasn't like you could actually go to that many places) I think that's a pretty dumb opinion senpai.
That's true of the SNES games as well though. X is just corridors and you don't even get the airship until the very end of the game.
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>>322715468
9 is kind of like a cross between 10 and 7. It's got the massive, open world of 7 and the unique and customizable party members of 10. The plot gets pretty wonky towards the end but, by then, you're already a bit too invested to quit. Also, by far, the best minigames and, arguably, the best optional bosses.
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>>322715661
Even when you get the airship, the game turns the "world map" into a fucking drop down list. That shit was a major bummer for me. I mean, I know that the way FFX's areas were constructed, a traditional world map wouldn't make much sense but a Final Fantasy game without a world map felt like betrayal.
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>>322715457
Cry harder, faggot.
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>>322715562
In terms of side quests, XII was pretty cool though, especially in the international version.

Trial Mode Stage 100 was pretty fun, for example. It's also the first game I've played where making your own map is very, very helpful (and not tedious to make) in one area.
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>>322715863
I was planning on emulating it, but I'll probably just wait till the PC release now.

The only thing that makes me apprehensive is that in Final Fantasy threads, the people who dickride IX also tend to praise V and XII which I wasn't too crazy about and bash X which I loved.
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>>322716112

this doesn't even mean anything

you're still a faggot born in the 90s
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>>322715863
>IX
>best minigames
>Tetra Master
Triple Triad was a million times better and VII has the Golden Saucer.
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>>322716247
You're projecting pretty hard faggot.
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>>322716247
>I'm older than you so I'm right.

Why do people on the internet think this is a good argument?
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>>322716401
Because it sure beats "I've got a higher post count than you so I'm right."
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>>322716460
How the fuck do you measure post count?

I mean, shit, I've been here since like 2008, but I have no idea how many times I've posted.
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>>322709234
IX
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>>322716460
rekt
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>>322716230
I hardly see people who dickride IX praising V and people are mostly too ashamed to admit to liking 12 here because of the mixed reception. But to clarify, did you dislike V and XII or just XII?
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>>322716401

he claimed to be an X fan born before 7's release and I called him out on it

he's yet to prove it

people born in the 90s should have their opinions automatically discarded nonetheless
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10 for sure is my favorite
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>>322716546
I doubt you can here, I was just referring to how it is on every other forum. There's always gonna be some terrible arguments like that here, it's just harder to pin them down because of the anonymity.
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>>322710832
It's pretty much the same proteins, fats, sugars and vitamins that you got from your mom's milkers.
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>>322709402
>>322709904

>Good milk based products
>USA

Where did this meme com from?
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>>322716230
I feel like a lot of FF games tend to have fans dedicated to certain fans. For example, 8's a game I'll never understand but it's got a lot of diehards who love it.

I'll say this; if you don't like it by the time you leave Lindbulm (the second major city in the game, still early in Disc 1) then feel free to give up. It gets better but if you're not convinced by then, then it's probably not for you.

Also, if you do get far enough, play the Chocobo Hot & Cold minigame enough times to at least get a handful of Chocographs. The game doesn't really make it a point that you have to replay the minigame quite a few time until you actually start getting anything good, including Chocobo upgrades to cross impassable terrain.
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I refuse to believe people consider X a good game, much less their favorite.

Holy fuck.
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7 by a lot.

7's scope is huge even by modern standards.

X was just a series of hallways with shitty puzzles, and terrible dialgoue.
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>>322716784
>Yet to prove it
Lel, what do you think I'm gonna do? Post my fucking ID on 4chan?
You don't have to believe me, you can feel free to just live in your own echo-chamber. I am gonna call you out on being a huge faggot though.
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>>322716343
Motorcycle got old quick.
Submarine got old quicker.
Snowboarding is great, I'll give you that.
Rollcoaster is neat but not much lasting appeal.
Of course, the Battle Square is awesome but that's not really a minigame, per se.

I'll give you Triple Triad though, that's the fucking tits.

I found 9's minigames to be far more rewarding though, and it actually gave you a bit of a reason to play through them, whereas 7's were merely for fun and 8... did 8 have anything other than the card game? Well, not that it needed anything else.
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>>322716680
I didn't like XII mostly due to the mmo battle system.

I thought V was decent but I didn't think the job system was as amazing as /v/ thinks it is. If anything, I tend to prefer simpler stat growth systems that don't need as much micromanagement and decrease the chances I'll gimp my characters by making the wrong choices. VIII kind of annoyed me in this regard.
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>>322717284
Triple Triad and Blitzball were my favorite minigames.
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>>322713532
I S S H I T
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>>322716965
many agree it has the best turn based combat in the series

the music is awesome

the setting is good

a fuck ton of content, probably more than any other non-mmo FF game, despite what you think of the overall cast there are some god tier characters like lulu, auron and jecht
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>>322717031

go away kid
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>>322717812
NO IT ISN'T
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>>322716836
[citation needed]
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>>322717996

>X
>more content than VII

kek
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>>322717996

I really like X but felt that it needed more polish.

Werent they working on 8 9 10 and 11 practically with no breaks in between games and some development overlapping?

What the fuck was wrong with them?
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>>322710832


>designed

spotted the creationist
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>>322718108
end game stuff alone justifies my statement

>>322718165
my main problem with X is that the story is good with the setting and world building but the writing is so bad. This is true for most FF games though
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>>322710832
>not designed
Lactose intolerant Asian detected.
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>>322718291

It really doesn't.
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>>322718108
Blitzball by itself has enough to content to make another fully fledged game. Sucks that so many people hate it. I think it's a great little game.
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Anyone who thinks X is the better game has the worst taste.
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>>322718556

It's shit.

>make a sport in sphere of water
>flat horizontal movement
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>>322718673
>Combat takes place in a three dimensional space
>Characters only attack from one angle

That's a dumb criticism.
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>>322718845

It really isn't. One is a minigame with greater posibilities, and the other is grounded combat.

If anything that was a dumb comparison.
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>>322719085
>A minigame has greater possibilities than the bulk of the gameplay
That's a dumb comment.
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>>322718845

thats a prety stupid analogy bruh
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>>322719236

The ninigame takes less effort to make it 3 dimensional. The point that blitzball plays like shit still stands.
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>>322718556
I didn't like Blitzball that much but I give it credit for it's ambition.

It felt more like a videogame within a videogame than any other FF minigame. With some more polish Square could have easily made it into it's own spinoff series.
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>>322719236

Well it takes place entirely in water so why not?

The combat is fixed so comparing it with the combat system is just goalpost shifting.
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>>322709234
FF8
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>>322719416
>The minigame takes less effort to make it 3 dimensional

Except the entire game revolves around it being 2 dimensional. It's a game about spacing and stat comparing, if you change the number of dimensions then you have to revamp the entire system.

And Blitzball is fun in 2 dimensions.
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>>322719527
Because the entire game is about spacing. And combat is only "fixed" because you're appealing to tradition. There are tons of RPGs that have characters attacking from different angles.
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I shan't lie, X is a good game. It has good plot, though the twists are not all that twisty. The music is excellent, see pic related. The combat is very well done, the summons make a good strong feature in the game, rather than being a spell with a funky animation, and the characters are rather likeable (Wakka being the exception.) Blitzball was a fun minigame, though slightly over the top with it's depth. Not much Post-Game though, or freeroam. Not that the content wasn't there, but it felt shallow. "Go out and kill one of everything." "Play in the lightning for 3 years" "Xatu Butterfly Collection"

IX will still always be my favourite however. The characters were all loveable in their own way with their own personal struggles and mini-stories, the combat wasn't far from X, the story was great, with loads of twists and turns and arse-fuckery popping up out of nowhere, yet still making sense once the sense was revealed. The music was top-tier, earning extra kudos from the complimenting it did with cutscenes, what with there being no spoken word.
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>>322719609

Blitzball being 2 dimensional is retarded. You might as well be playing a soccer minigame, which is basically what it's ripping off.
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>>322714560
>Anything I don't like is irredeemable shit.

That's why I ignore all posts that use the word shit, any ridiculous hyperbole, or post smug anime faces.

They can't be reasoned with and it's a complete waste of time to try and discuss vidya with them.

Giving shitposters a (You) encourages them.
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>>322719748

this has nothing to do with blitzball taking place entirely underwater yet being 2 dimensional

don't change the fucking subject
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>>322712445
11
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>>322719793

>shan't

Kill yourself.
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>>322719872
It's a minigame dude. If it were 3-dimensional you would need to add a way to show off characters in a 3 dimensional space, account for angles in shots and passing, and make a swimming system that feels good enough for a sports minigame.

I'm not saying Blitzball wouldn't have been cool in 3D, but it would've been more effort than there's ever been in any minigame in Final Fantasy. Blitzball in 2D is less shiny, but its still a fun game. "It's not X" isn't a good criticism.
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They're both good, but not the best of the series.
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FFX had a great plot and world, mired by shit characters and pacing.

FFVII was slightly more generic, but the cast was fun, and more importantly, you could go both left AND right.
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VII because I was 13 when I first played it, and it had so much to offer it was almost unending.

I played X in my teens and it was good, but pretty boring at the same time. Those fucking temple puzzles holy fucking shit. zzzzzzz
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>>322720019
It absolutely does. The way Blitzball works, you have two main factors, strategy based on stat comparisons and using spacing to tilt the scales when the states aren't to your advantage. Making the game 3 dimensional complete changes the second part. In essence, you would need to make it a completely different game, with much more complex rules. Consider this, people have enough trouble understanding blitzball in 2D, can you imagine how fucking confused the unwashed masses would've been with a 3D version?
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>>322720402

tl;dr - blitzball is a shitty soccer clone and you're reaching like a motherfucker


>people have enough trouble understanding blitzball in 2D

What?
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X has a better battle system, better story, better setting, better customization through sphere grid.

VII has better characters and world map.

So X.
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FFX is considered the most popular in Japan. That says something
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>>322720701

>X
>better story
>better setting

Wrong.
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>>322709234
X had better combat, minigames and (obviously) graphics, but was hampered by the worst level design I've ever seen in a JRPG barring FFXIII, way too many unskippable cutscenes, bosses that ranged from joke easy to bullshit hard, and more than half the cast lacked any personality (read: pretty much everyone except Tidus, Wakka and Rikku). Where as VII certainly had its faults including the shitty main villain, it's overall the better game.

That being said they're both great and among the top tier JRPGs for their respective systems.

>>322713532
Is one of the worst ARPGs I've ever played which also took a steaming shit on FF7's legacy just like the rest of the compilation.
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>>322720698
You're just a shitposter. You're complaining about what a game isn't, which is just shitposting.

Blitzball is fun, and comparing a game with full tackling to soccer is dumb as shit fa-m.
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>>322720783

Japan has shit taste.
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>>322720783
Which means nothing since the Final Fantasy franchise as a whole is still dwarfed by Dragon Quest in moonland.
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>>322709234
X.

I played them both for the first time somewhat recently though.
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>>322720783
and FFVII is the second most popular.

Well at least they're both in the top two that's fine with me.
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>>322720792
FFVII has an incredibly generic world.
Say what you will about X, but Spira's interesting, which is way more than you can say about Midgar and the surroundings.
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>>322720847

Blitzball is still retarded for being 2-dimensional, deal with it.
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>>322709234
Both are pretty dope. Im dogging on 10 hard right now. But im taking a break to play through ff1 and xenogears
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>>322721009
You're retarded for complaining about what a game isn't when it's plenty fun as it is.

>Being unable to enjoy games that aren't exactly what you expect
Autistic af.
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>>322721000

>anything in Spira
>better than Midgar

lolwut

midgar's aesthetic alone blows X's generic temple ruins shit out of the water
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>>322709234

X just for the high five Jecht gives Tidus at the end of game. Easily the best moment in video game history right there.
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>>322721114

Keep crying. Blitzball will always be shit for not allowing vertical movement.
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>>322721129
the concept with the pyreflies is better than materia
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>>322721000
Midgar was a pretty cool city. Every other location was incredibly generic though.
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>>322720147
Shan't desu.
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This thread proves all X fans are 90s babbies.
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>>322721129
>Technofantasy not probably the most generic thing after basic high-fantasy
>Thinking Tropical fantasy is generic

You're blinded by fanboyism. Midgar looks like any number of similar 90s RPGs that were obsessed with that aesthetic.
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>>322721235
You should get that crippling autism checked out tbqh.
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>>322721270

>generic

compared to X's bla d locales, that's hilarious

modern Zanerkand was the only interesting place and you're there for roughly 10 minutes.

then you're left to explore generic towns and ruins and empty fields
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>>322720701
>sphere grid
>good
It was a glorified progression wall.
The license board was better.
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>>322721342

what the fuck is tropical fantasy
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>>322721617

Never said it was good said it was better than materia dipshit
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>>322721342
>Midgar looks like any number of similar 90s RPGs that were obsessed with that aesthetic.

name them you full faggot

name any pre 97 rpg that looked anything like 7
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>>322709234
FFX
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>>322721471
>Bevele
>thunderplains
>macalania woods
>zanarkand
>guadosalam
>luca

all awesome
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>>322709234
So basically PS1babbies vs. PS2babbies: the thread?
I can get behind this.
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>>322721786
Eberron, faggot. Grimy technologically advanced cities were literally the 90s aesthetic in a fucking nutshell.

>>322721650
It's not a thing, that's my point. Fantasy games don't tend to have tropical environments at the forefront.
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>>322721876

>>322721978

That's post 97 you stupid fuck.

all been done a million times before
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>>322722236
what
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>>322721876

all been done before
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>>322722361
I don't know what you're talking about but I think you're confusing me with the other guy
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>>322721747
No it wasn't, actually. It suffered from the same flaws yet was worse due to encouraging grinding even more.
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>>322722236
Fine, Blade Runner. 12 Monkeys, the original Ghost in the Shell. It's not an original setting, especially in the fucking 90s
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Just ask yourself this.

is it linear?
Yes?
Then any non-linear FF literally shits on it.
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It's all a matter of opinion.

These threads are absolutely pointless.
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>>322722528

Those aren't vidya. Kill yourself.
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>>322722236
Not Eberron, Shadowrun. My bad. Eberron's a good example of a continuation of the trend though.

You're defending one of the most generic types of fantasy out there.

FF7 has a lot of cool things, it's setting is not one of them.
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>>322722595
Every Final Fantasy since fucking IV has been incredibly linear.

The least linear Final Fantasy was the first one, and even then you could only really change a couple of things.
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>>322722735

Tropical fantasy is just some bullshit you made up to try to defend X's bland setting. That resort in 7 is tropical fantasy then.
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>>322722970
It's not a real thing, I literally said that. But that's a good thing, aquatic themed settings are rare, especially for an RPG like this. The fact that it doesn't fall into a predefined conception of what kind of a setting should be means it isn't just the same old shit. Besaid feels like something completely different from what you would expect a starting town to look like. The ceramic look of the ruins makes it so that there isn't rust everywhere to clog up the color palette.
Meanwhile, you're trying to defend one of the worst aesthetics to grace entertainment. Rust and steel work well in Noir, they look overindulgent in fantasy.
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>>322722970
Incase you need a third party to tell you FFVII is nothing new, and is in-fact just the same old shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cyberpunk_works#Video_games
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>>322723249
>Besaid

generic shanty town with a beach

wew so original
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turneded based games are fucking shit and so are all of you

i hate this board
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>>322723529

look at all those jrpgs

...oh wait
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>>322723249
>one of the worst aesthetics to grace entertainment

>yet praises generic beaches and tress

hurr durr waterworld did it
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>>322723674
There are more than 10 JRPGs, more than 20 RPGs in total.
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>>322711883
This tbqh. Once the remake hits it should make 7 win provided that it doesn't get fucked up too bad, none of that crisis core shit
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>>322723854
>Thinking Cyberpunk is anything but trash in fantasy
>>322723580
What part of this looks like a shanty? Do you know what that word means?
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>>322723945
>episodic

no thanks [email protected]
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>>322724090
Hopefully they'll make a cheaper season pass thing for all of them
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>>322724062

>thinking Midgar is cyberpunk

>what part of this looks shanty

Maybe those shanty tents.
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>FF7
>Color Palette of Blacks, Browns, and Greys inside Midgar
>Basic fields outside Midgar

>FF10
>Color Pallete of Orange, Blue and Green
>Guadosalam and Macalania have Blues, whites, and Bevelle has White and Reds
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>>322723945
Now that Square is under new management I hope that's the case. Just keep that faggot Tabata away from the project then I only have Nojima to worry about.
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>>322724295

they wont because they'll be individual games like XIII trilogy

episodic was never once used in the interview - it was just thrown out as clickbait
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>>322724310
>Common themes include advanced science and technology like artificial intelligence and cybernetics, powerful megacorporations, and a decay of or radical change in the social order.[3]

Midgar is Cyberpunk to a fucking T.

And the key feature of shanties is corrugated metal, which there is none of in Besaid. If you really think Besaid looks like this, then you're retarded.
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>>322724439

What's worng with Tabata?
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>>322724492
Like the 13 trilogy? Wtf, how can they make 3 games out of one? I mean I know 7 is pretty big but unless they're adding stuff they had planned and didn't make it in the original, I can't see there being enough content/a good stopping point in order to stop one game and release another
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>>322724609
>advanced science and tech

Midgar has none of this.
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>>322724865

>Midgar has none of this

It does. We only really get to see the slums though.
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>>322724609

The only thing there that fits Midgar is the evil corporation.
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>>322724782
In 13's case both 13-2 and LR were pretty much made from leftover 13 assets.

Though how they'll do 7's remake like that well I don't really know.
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>>322724865
You mean besides the fucking robotic spiders that attack you in the first fucking level, the cybernetically enhanced guards, Barett's gun-hand, the entire science of building a plate on-top of another city and the containers we see that contain Jenova?

Are you actually that stupid? There are giant robots in literally the first two missions of the game. Have you even played Final Fantasy VII?
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>>322724995
>Cybernetics
Barett's Arm
>Advanced Tech
Giant robots, Shinra guards have high-tech headsets
>Radical decay of social order
There's literally a caste system

I see what's happening here. FF7 babbys haven't actually played the game, they're just defending it because they heard it was good on gamefaqs.
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>>322725291

either that or you're being trolled
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>>322725010
It feels like they're trying to split one of the original lotr movies (fellowship, towers, return) and remake them into 3 movies each. It can't be done and if it was only going to be 2 segments it might be able to be done, but in that case why say episodic? If they don't add more plot, like make an actual remake of the game then release the game during crisis core/AC time as other separate "episodes" then I'm not sure, and even then, it can be terrible
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>>322725519
Shit, you're right.
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>>322724738
He directed the atrocity that was Crisis Core and is currently fucking up FF15. He also directed Type-0 which I've never played, but doesn't look very good.
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>>322718315
My sides
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>>322725913
Is that the dumb cunt who completely misinterpreted a tweet from the NFL or some shit?
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>>322725798

Crisis Core isn't bad, and Type-0 is great.

Also how is listening to fan feedback "ruining" XV?

He actually inplimented manual weapon switching and less qte shit due to feedback, and even asked for Avalanche Studio's help on the player's airship.

If it wasn't for him Versus would've been scrapped completely, and XV would've been XIII-4.
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>>322723529
>metal gear
shit list
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>>322724865
Can't tell if you're retarded or if this is bait.
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>>322726117
I disagree with that one too, but FFVII is undeniably Cyberpunk.
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>>322709918
>Not posting the .gif
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>>322726247
Judging by the lack of response, I think he's retarded.
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>>322709234
Both of them are extremely overrated, but if I had to choose one it would be X.
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>>322726094
Crisis Core is fucking atrocious, no ifs or buts about it. Be it the story or the gameplay it was a complete and utter failure at everything it set out to do, even when judged on its own merits.

But I'll take your word on Type-0 and FFXV then.
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>>322726004
No, it was some random girl on FB that got pissed over this image. I checked her page like the creepy fuck that I am and found this huge rant.
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>>322724865
You've obviously never even played the fucking game if you think this.
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>>322725798

>and is currently fucking up FF15

He was before the demo feedback, but the new UI and TGS combat footage shows manual weapon switching, so I think he's doing the right thing.
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>>322726578

Cool opinion.
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>>322726601
Context of that pic?
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>>322726601
That is a bit rude desu.
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>>322726601
i need to see that casting couch now
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>>322726601
Eh, just put a paper bag over her head and she's fuckable.
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>>322726854
>>322726801
>>322726749
>>322726743
>Not knowing FacialAbuse

Not that guy, but damn. You guys new to Porn?
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This is a trick question because they're both shit just like every other final fantasy game.
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>>322726951
I mostly jerk off to watersports, of both the 2D and 3D kind.
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>>322726951
Im no into abuse porn.
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>>322727160
>>322727119
They're famous for being dicks to the women they bring on. They talk shit to them. There was a video comp of them on Efukt that used to be pretty famous.
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>>322726962
Are you a N4S or CoD boy?
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>>322727297
Interesting, I might check it out. You know, for research purposes only.
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>>322727429
The porn isn't great unless you're into ugly chicks that deepthroat dicks until they literally vomit.
I'm not judging though.

http://efukt.com/21244_Trolling_Wannabe_Pornstars_2K15.html

Here's the vid comp.
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>>322727349
I'm a fan of this, actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-T511uNMk
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>>322727659
I supposed it'll be fun watching them cry anyway, right?
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>>322727924
Most of them take it on the chin desu, it's pretty rare they get a girl that cries or stops doing the vid.

That does happen though.
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>>322728118
It's legit though, right? They're not like "Okay we're going to say some mean things to you but we don't really mean it, you just have to be pretend upset for all the sick fucks jerking off in their basements okay?" or some shit.
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>>322728256
watch that vid I posted, see for yourself.

They've had girls legimitately walk off the set before though and just say fuck it.
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>>322728375
Will do. Thanks anyway though.
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>>322727659
>you sound like fucking Batman

I don't even care that there isn't any fucking going on this is officially my favorite porn video ever.
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>>322728660
Enjoy, you'll notice there are 5 parts to this series.
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>>322728781
Even better, thanks anon.
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7 easily
Japan needs to learn that the J-pop junk doesn't fly outside of their country.
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>>322709234
They both fucking suck. FFX revolves a whinny bitch with daddy issues. The other one is so fucking wrought with melodrama it's fucking nauseating
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>>322725751

I laughed pretty hard. reading this thread drunk as fuck. Thank you for this one bright moment.

Also FFX is better if you're talking about game-i-want-to-play-right-now. I would pick FFX over FF7 right now.
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>>322727659
>Jesus Christ that asshole looks like the Batman symbol
>*Batman music starts playing*

Oh my fucking god my sides, I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. How come I haven't heard of this shit before?
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>>322729054
>J-pop
>FFX

If you said FFX-2 then I would have believed you. Also all the weebs around the world proves your statement wrong.
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>>322729147
I like the simplicity in this comment. Not in a bad way. I like your style anon.
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>>322729345
Thanks dude. What would you pick? both such great games. My favorite is 9 though. and 12 is second.
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>>322729182
I dunno man, FacialAbuse is a fucking staple of porn comedy.
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>>322727659
LOL wtf, what did they expect porn to be ha
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>>322729809
I'd say 10, my favorite is 5 though. I always liked the games that had changeable classes.
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>>322726313
Certainly Midgar, but once you leave the city you also leave every trace of it.
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>>322730098
But then it just becomes generic fantasy world.
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>>322729961
Indeed. The ending to the first video was pretty heartwarming though.
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>>322727349
>n4s or COD
No those are shit, like final faggasy.
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>>322730043
Exdeath is fuckin cool
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>>322730220
Games 1 through 5 are generic fantasy for the most part. 7 is in no way generic fantasy, it's just that Midgar is the only real cyberpunk of the game.
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The OFFICIAL Final Fantasy Tier List

>God Tier:
7

>Good Tier:
6


>Allright Tier:
5
4


>Mediocre tier:
12
3
1


>Bad Tier:
8
2


>Shit Tier:
9
10
10-2
13
13-2
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>>322730739
>2 above anything

Opinion instantly discarded. 2 is the worst Final Fantasy.
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>>322730739
wow you suck shit.
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>>322709234

I enjoyed X a lot more than 7. Hell X has a better combat system than most FF games anyway, if not the best.
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>>322730739
>bad tier
>8

Yup it's a faggot
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>>322730739
Very accurate list
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>>322730739
Correct list incoming!

5>6=9>7>4>10>12>1>8>3>aggresively inhaling your own farts>being trapped in an infinate loop of drinking orange juice after brushing your teeth>2>13
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>>322730739
Perfect
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>>322733671
Your top 6 are all the right games, but I'd change the order a bit. Good job recognizing 5 as the best game though.
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>>322733671
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>>322733671
I only speak the objective truth
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>>322730739

9 isnt shit though.

The three playstation FFs are the best you pleb. 5 and 6 are also legit.

I dont get why FF fans hate this series as much as they love it.
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>>322734020
You should kill yourself right now. Please, please do it.
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>>322734127
>9 isnt shit though.
Yes it is
>>
I like every FF game that I've played so far.
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>>322734368
You have good taste.
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>>322734292

Not really. I love the setting, characters, music, the way you learn abilities, etc.

Hyperbole doesnt make your opinion fact.
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>>322734368
Excellent taste right there nigga.
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>>322734127
Im sorry but you are wrong 9 was fucking SHIT.
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>>322734435
The setting is boring garbage
The characters are bland and unlikable
The music is terrible
The way you learned abilities for the most part was simply level up
Combat is probably the worst it has ever been since the nes games
The plot and story was abysmal

the game was pure ass
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>>322734435
>suplex being an action to choose from instead of a set of inputs
Nothing but accuracy from Zac Gorman.
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>>322734682
>>322734881

All opinions being presented as facts.

I love the game. Bite me.
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>>322716965
the battle system in X was bretty good, with X-2's combat being the best out of the entire series. it's like finding a diamond among shit. it's like yea that's a diamond but it's covered in shit and i just touched it.
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>>322735104
>getting this assmad
You know the story is objectively subpar when the main character is Goku in all but name.
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>>322735215
Im mad because i told you to bite me?

Kek. You didnt really pay attention to the story if you think hes goku, anon.
>>
While Blitzball and Triple Triad will always be the best Minigames despite Golden Saucer in 7 and Serendipity in 13-2 having actual dedicated locations for them

Won't give a best story, cause each one I've played has been either bland or over convoluted

Better combat: 10-2 had better combat than 10, but was just a grimace worthy WHY? Fest everywhere else

Better graphics can't be compared, they reflect the times they were released. Both are dated

Best customisation: do you like the strategy involved in equipping a specific number of materia to get the job done? Or just walk around with a blue Cat man who can poke holes in tanks as well as melt them with flare
Should be a toss up, but I guess 7 wins on account of actually BEING customisable without every character turning into reskins of the same Gary Stu
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>>322735104
Except he's right, you have shit taste.
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>>322735372

Nah. Eat shit.
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>>322735349
>blitzball
>good

pick one. the stat degredation was so massive that having higher stats amounted to very little. this is even worse when the stats themselves can be randomized anywhere from 50% to 150% (or whatever the real % are). that means the better you get, the less consistent you will be. also having 1 HP does nothing to stop you from actually playing, leaving the question why bother having a drain skill? oh and worst of all, there's no way to pass the time quicker and time stops when actions are taken. so in order to get the sigil for wakka (who for some reason has one of the strongest moves in the entire series) you have to sit there for literal hours watching time go by. that or watch the AI do completely stupid shit.

worst of all, they stick on a flat plane instead of letting you use the entire sphere. in addition, you can't knock anyone out the sphere like the intro video shows tidus doing with a shit eating grin on his face.
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>>322735331
>from another planet
>is suppsed to wipe out all life on the planet
>hits his head and gets amnesia
>turns into a nice guy
>his brother is also set on killing everyone
>has a tail
The only difference is that Zidane is as lecherous as Roshi and Kuja doesn't job like Radditz.
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>>322735843
would that make steiner krillin since he's always getting his ass beat? amarant as a shittier version of piccolo.
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>>322709234
It's not pic related, I can tell you that.
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>>322735104
>Setting has almost no variety
FACT

>Characters have very little depth and are not very fleshed out
FACT

>Music is comprised of mostly remixes
FACT

>abilities are for the most part are learned simply leveingl up
FACT

>Combat is slow, most of the attacks/spells in the game are color or animation swaps as well as load times being horrendous

>The story is a convoluted mess and the main stopy is dropped multiple times while various other side parts are left completely unfinished
FACT

You have objectly shit taste, FACT.

FACT
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>>322735798
Cry me a river fag, stats matter as much as a grain of sand stops the tides

I've min-maxed with "strongest" blitzers, stayed with original Aurochs, and even traded for Luca Goers players

14 shoot can score on a 16 catch goalie, and as long as there's 1 shoot left invisible shot still has its 66% chance to score

HP is there to limit skill useage. Not playability otherwise Jecht Shot 2 everything

Wah! They don't let me do something I saw in a FMV in this minigame, so must be shit

You only need to play 2 games to get Wakkas Attack reels... Each game is like 8 minutes. Just save, enter the tournament and save scum if its not the prize and/or you didn't get seeded or other easy grabbables


Hint to anyone else reading this: Keepa kept practicing
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>>322736969
>sigil
>2 games

nigga can you read?
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>>322736537
>setting has no variety
So how's Cosmo Canyon the same as Cetran Ruins or sector 7 slums?

Killika Luca be said all tropical themed ports like fucken Hoenn so much water
>characters
The non essentials maybe, Vincent Yuffie Barret. Red13 has hidden scenes for back story Cait Sith is a fuckin puppet and Tifa Cloud and Aerith are so chocked full of back story it overflows into extra media like new games (crisis core)
>music
You'll find most of those same remixes in 10 as well, think Victory Fanfare is new or anything? Some tunes are just as much staples to the franchise as the mechanics or enemies are
>skills
Lie.
You gain no skills by leveling if you equipped no materia from start to end you would finish the game with just your attack and item commands. All skills are granted through materia
>attacks
A palmate swap is Mass Effect 3 ending, a lightning bolt from the sky, a hunk of ice falling on them and a fire ball from your hands are not pallate swaps
>story
This is true
>FACT
Opinion =/= Fact
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>>322737179
Nigga they give you prizes for both winning tournament and highest scorer

Highest scorer never higher than 3-4

You can get auroch reels AND the sigil

Save scum, bitch! Two games is two games
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>>322736473
Plus Steiner gets with Beatrix who is a total babe and way out of his league.
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>>322709234
X is a great game with a proper sequel. I'd say its better because of that, in that it can still stand strong after having a continuation. Everything was good and fine but then they released the novel and 2.5. That's the only negative.

7 I feel, not so much. Remember the FF7 anime, then compilation like Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children?

I found 7's stuff to be more of a mixed bag. So X is butter for me.
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>>322738553
Hes talking about FF9 not FF7 you retard.
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