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>GOD TIER (Masterpiece. Must play) 10/10
Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix

>GREAT TIER (Amazing but has minor flaws) 8 or 9/10
Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix
Re:Coded

>GOOD TIER (Has noticeable flaws but overall a fun experience) 6 or 7/10
Birth by Sleep Final Mix
Dream Drop Distance
Chain of Memories (GBA)

>AVERAGE TIER (Mediocre. Not bad, not great.) 5/10
Re:Chain of Memories

>SHIT TIER (Garbage. Avoid like aids) 1/10
358/2 Days

What do you think /v/? Accurate?
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>>322686319
I don't think there's enough of a difference between re:COM and COM to justify separating them, making it 3D didn't change it that much.
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Finally somebody who doesn't circle jerk BBS. It's so fucking overrated
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I really wish kh3 would come out already
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>>322686319
>GOD TIER (Masterpiece. Must play) 10/10
Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix
Birth by Sleep Final Mix

>GREAT TIER (Amazing but has minor flaws) 8 or 9/10
Kingdom Hearts 1 Final Mix


>GOOD TIER (Has noticeable flaws but overall a fun experience) 6 or 7/10
Re:Chain of Memories
Chain of Memories (GBA)

>AVERAGE TIER (Mediocre. Not bad, not great.) 5/10
Dream Drop Distance

>SHIT TIER (Garbage. Avoid like aids) 1/10
358/2 Days
Re:Coded

I fixed it for you
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>>322687087

It's actually a different experience for me. I can't explain it but COM was so much more satisfying than Re:COM. I can't explain it. Re:COM just felt so flat in comparsion
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>>322686319
Agreed
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>>322687503
>he thinks BbS is a masterpiece
>thinks DDD is worse than BbS
>thinks Re:coded is shit
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>>322687294

MAYBE 2017 if Nomura doesn't fuck something up
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>>322686319

I just looked and saw Re:Coded was anything above a 3.

Shit tier list mate
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>>322687503

>BBS
>Masterpiece

Fuck right off
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>>322687503

Good list.

358/2 Days is even above Re:Hashed the Game. Good placement.
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>>322686319
Anyway I can play these on my Vita? Don't have a console.
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>>322687991

Not unless you've hacked the Vita, in which case you can only play Chain of Memories.
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>>322687695
Flow-Motion and shitty mons-based abilities ruined DDD. Command deck and story made BBS god tier.

I would argue about Re:coded being shit, but I don't know what anyone would even like about it in the first place.
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>>322688167

There's nothing about Re:Coded to like.

Anything it did even acceptably, Kingdom Hearts I did better.

Everything else it did is shit on a fucking shit plate.
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>>322688416

>There's nothing about Re:Coded to like.

The fucking gameplay
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>>322688167
>Command deck and story made BBS god tier
But the gameplay is slow and the scaling is bad and many bosses are poorly designed.

These are all things that DDD improved. But Re:coded has them both beat

>I don't know what anyone would even like about it in the first place.
The combat, seeing as it's the best among the Command Deck games
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>>322688512

You mean the boring command deck gameplay which amounts to nothing since mashing a and rolling give you the same results?

Or you mean the simple, bland platforming?

Or you mean the mini-game boss fights?

How bout all the fetch quest based progression?

What about the shitty, gridlocked camera?
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>>322688554

DDD improved the bosses drastically, but it sacrificed control for faster gameplay. They only sped it up by putting half the game on-rails with the flow system. Not that anon though, so I don't know whether I'd put DDD above BBS or not (neither belong anywhere near the top though).

>Re:Coded has them both beat

Fuck no it does. Gameplay is slow as fucking molasses with little meaningful variety, and every boss except roxas sucks and is just a minigame. If every boss was as awesome as Roxas, I'd like the game more. Instead, roxas was the cherry on the shit cake that is Re:Coded
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Are the PS3 collections available on PS+ for PS4?
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Birth By Sleep and KH1 are by far better than 2 unless you are a gameplay only faggot in which case go back to the n64 you manchild piece of shit
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>>322689948
Yes. I just checked the PlayStation store.
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>>322689948

No and it never will be. KH never have digital releases
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>>322690000
Shit taste but checked
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>>322689253
Not him but I like mini game boss fights.
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>Just started to play 1.5&2.5
>beat KH final mix, good game but has heavy flaws, aged just ok
>started RE:CoM
>already don't want to play it

fuck, I want to play through this shit in order, but chain of memories doesn't have a good hook.
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>>322687503
This is correct
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>>322690185

Just watch the cutscenes on Youtube. Chain of Memories isn't that good
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>>322686319
Birth by Sleep is good tier?
And 2 is above it? Are you fucking mad?
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>>322690185
You're right, it doesn't. The story is good and important though, so watch the cutscenes or a no commentary playthrough.
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>>322690138

Here's a good minigame game.

We don't fucking play Kingdom Hearts for minigame bosses.
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Why is 358/2 days hated so much ?
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Would I be enjoying the series by playing the hd collection for the ps3 only?

I've put off playing kingdom hearts ever since I saw the trailers for the games a decade ago
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But KH1 has aged like milk and is pretty weak due to its platforming segments, repetitive combos, weaker music, and shitty camera.
>GOD TIER 10/10
Kingdom Hearts II FM
>GREAT TIER 8 or 9/10
Birth By Sleep FM
>GOOD TIER
Chain of Memories/RE
Dream Drop Distance
Kingdom Hearts 1 FM
>AVERAGE TIER (Mediocre. Not bad, not great. 5/10)
Re:Coded
>SHIT TIER
358/2 Days
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>>322689708
>Gameplay is slow as fucking molasses with little meaningful variety
Did you even play the game? Because that's wrong as hell.

It's faster than both BbS and DDD (especially BbS, holy shit), had all kinds of varuety with commands (and how they could combo into normal attacks), Keyblades, Finish Commands, the Clock gauge

Come on man
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>>322690312
>>322690464

I guess I could do that too. I want to try the Riku parts though.

Also watching kingdom hearts is not fun, started to watch 358/2 days cutscenes in 1.5. It's like a dating sim with no ~lewd scenes
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>>322690000
>a gameplay only faggot
Well, it is a GAME.
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>>322687087
>making it 3D didn't change it that much.
>Triple the amount of enemies or more so the EXP rate is decimated, there's like three to four waves of six or more enemies every battle, and it takes upwards of four minutes to just get through normal enemy encounters come endgame if you're not warping everything.
>Can't stack enemies anymore, it's strictly focusing one one or two enemies because you can't throw them on top of each other.
>Smallest areas are triple the size of even the biggest rooms of GBA which means way more enemy encounters.
>Some cards have become outright worthless like Cloud because of the perspective change.
>Bosses are completely different, especially when you fight Marluxia where he actually sleights at twice the speed, and Repliku is made trivial at best.
>Tons more grinding for MP needed to even rival the GBA version.
Re:CoM is a complete downgrade in every way, they sapped the fun out of it.
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>>322690635
The HD collections are the best way to get into the series. Start with the 1.5 collection and try 1, however if you don't like it I'd still recommend at the very least trying 2 in the 2.5 collection since its radically improved gameplay wise.
>>322690326
Of course 2 is above it. Birth By Sleep has balancing issues where there's no reason not to use surge attacks once you get them to win fights. Plus attacks don't have enough weight to them in most cases, as they tend to not push back/stun enemies.
>>322690597
Days' story wise is completely pointless to the overarching plot of the series, for one. Nothing important happens in it, and it introduced a useless character that hogged all the screen time that should have went to other organization members.
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>>322690185
Power through it. It's not very long anyway. It gets better, and Reverse/Rebirth is great
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>>322690000
KH1 is worse than 2 in all ways. The story was much simpler and tried to do less and the enemies were not threatening. All of the antagonists were jokes. Also the music in 1 isn't as good as in 2.
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>>322691029
hence the "only" part
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>>322691145
>Reverse/Rebirth is great

what the fuck is that
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>>322690597
The gameplay is rancid garbage
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>>322691242
The second half of the game
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>>322691242
The part where you play Riku. Its different in that your card set is permanent so instead of worrying about getting better cards you just power through areas beating shit up.
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>>322691358
Just read up on it, it seems it's just the same levels and bosses but only with Riku?
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>>322691242
Once you beat the game you unlock Riku's side of the story and they give you fixed decks instead of letting you build your own.
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>>322691617
Kinda but not really.
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>>322691617
Sort of. But Riku plays completely differently, fights different Org members, and has a pretty good story as well.

Personally it's my favorite part of the game
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Just got the two HD collections for PS3. Do I just play em in collection order?
I heard I should play 358/2 days after KH2
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>>322691969
Days goes after KHII yes. Otherwise the order on the menus is fine.
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>>322691897
>fights different Org members

Ok, kinda want to finish playing it then
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>>322691969
Days is flipped in the collection order, release wise it goes after KH2. But you can play it the way it is in the collection.
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>>322692023
>>322691969
>Days goes after KHII

It doesn't though, Days plays parallel to Chain of Memories, which is after KH 1 and before KH 2
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>>322692153
In play order, dingus.
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>>322692153
In release order it goes after 2 which is what we're talking about about. Not chronological order.
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>>322692257
>>322692278

my bad
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The only acceptable game is the first one. Everything else is trash tier.
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Whats the correct order to play this series in? Im thinking about buying a PS4 to play this.

Are the DS games included in the remaster bundles?
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>>322692379
Release order
>Are the DS games included in the remaster bundles?
Yes, but only as movies.
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>>322692379
Release and they're in as movies.
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>>322690013
>>322690052

????

>>322692379
collections are PS3 exclusive

2.8 is PS4 exclusive
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>>322690597
So many reasons.
>Story doesn't go anywhere at all until Riku pops in which is day 300 something and even when they skip 10+ days at a time it feels like it takes forever.
>Magic system tries to be different based on the level of the spell but ends up making -ra and -ga spells complete garbage while the base spell is pretty much the same damage give or take a tiny sliver of health while having way better effects like homing into enemies for instance.
>Limited magic casts for the entire level.
>Do you like Agrabah? No? Well that's great, half the game takes place there.
>Sigil collecting missions that are not only timed, but expect you to get crazy amounts for the best rank.
>EMERALD SERENADES
>EMERALD SERENADES IN NEVERLAND
>Game is about the Organization but you get no insight into anyone at all except for Roxas, Axel, and Xion, and an extremely tiny bit with Luxord and Saix.
>Enemies are not only damage sponges, but even when you've got the Mystery Gear with 4x Crit Chance on it and critting every single hit you're still taking 5+ hits to kill anything on Standard.
>Half the enemies are just recolors with most of the cast just being Serenades.
>"Secret boss" is just an oversized Wyvern that one-shots you and has quadruple health and stays in the background while recolored enemies attack you on ground.
>Stealth missions where the guy you're following turns around instantly without any tell.
>Multiplayer is awful.
The panel system is the only good part of 358/2.
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>>322692750
Isn't that thanks to the stupid DS4 touchpad?
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>>322693047
That and BbS 0.2 is practically a KH3 demo.
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>>322692826
>EMERALD SERENADES
>EMERALD SERENADES IN NEVERLAND
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>>322692826
>Secret boss" is just an oversized Wyvern that one-shots you and has quadruple health and stays in the background while recolored enemies attack you on ground.
Don't forget that it resists every single attack type so you do literal chip damage even with Zero Gear with full Power Units

Crits being the only way to do meaningful damage at all, and even then it isn't much.
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>>322686319
Is it wrong that I like KHI more than KHII?
For some reason it just feels more interesting for me, more magical, so to speak. Like the journey of a child towards adulthood, the loss of inocence and such

Also that Traverse Town battle theme
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>>322692826
>>322693495
You don't know pain unless you played the Japanese version.
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>>322692826
>extremely tiny bit with Luxord and Saix
Really? I don't even remember Luxord appearing in the game
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>>322694728
How could it possibly get any worse?
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>>322687175
BBS is only praised because Blue Haired Waifu Cancerous Worst Thing To Happen to KH.
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>>322694923
You team up with him in like three or four missions where he chats with Roxas. Lexaeus does once or twice as well. I believe one of them was in Agrabah, might have been during the Pete stealth mission?
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>>322686319
Will anyone else besides me ever acknowledge how autistic all those title names are?
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>>322695075
Oh hey Redpill-kun. How have you been?
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>>322695185
>Lexaeus slaps the ever loving shit out of Roxas
I'm surprised he still had a jaw after that.
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>>322692826
God, Days is without a doubt the worst game I've ever played to completion.

Just thinking about it makes me feel a mixture of disgust and anger.
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>>322686319
Wait why is Re:CoM worse?
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>>322686319
>Re:Coded
>great tier
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358/2 Days is worth playing just for those cool bits where it does spooky shit with the bottom screen.
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>>322696094
>358/2 Days is worth playing
No, just no.
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Unchained χ gets really hard guys.
Trying to kill Cerberus in one turn is an exercize in futility

Good news for those of you who may have been afraid the game would be way casual. It's significantly harder than its browser counterpart.
I hope they don't expect me to beat Ava in one turn

>>322696094
Even though I can't stand Days, I was asad to see that part go in 1.5
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>>322687503
>GOD TIER
>Birth by Sleep Final Mix

Gee Anon, did you have fun grinding every single fucking command, ability, finisher, and collecting all of the treasures, shotlocks, and stickers, playing all of those mini-games, and fighting all of the wonderfully balanced and well-designed superbosses, right? What about when you had to do it three times over, or six times because you didn't start on Critical? After attempting to 100% this shitshow, you begin to realize how awful Osaka's version of KH combat truly is. Birth by Sleep is a great KH game, but nowhere near the polish of 1 or 2.
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I'll never understand the appeal of this series. I'm a huge FF fan, but I just cannot get into KH. It's not bad, just not for me I guess.
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>>322698848
FF and KH have little in common besides the dev and characters so it makes sense, personally I enjoy both, but I haven't been all that engaged by FF recently.
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>>322696782
Yes, but literally no one sane cares about anything in χ except for the plot outside of the various Disney worlds. Daybreak Town update when? Also this gameplay is shit.
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>>322700693
I think it's pretty fun. Both versions.

Willing to bet the next update will be more Beast's Castle, but I think Unchained is getting to the search for Ephemera? Can't quite remember.

Regardless, should be this Thursday
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>>322700991
Is there a release schedule up for view? Or is it all just "the next update will be out when we feel like releasing it"?
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>>322701319
The browser version undergoes maintenance every Thursday, and story updates on the first Thursday of the month.
Sometimes they go off-schedule for events and stuff.

Unchained is a little less scheduled, but typically it's the second and last Thursdays.
I think this month is the last one with two story updates.
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