Why does Call of Duty get shit on about no real changes when Pokemon is just as guilty?
>all these losers with no friends who don't play CoD online together
I always knew most of you were weab watching beta faggots but jesus christ get some friends.
Pokemon actually improves on its mechanics every new entry. Call of Duty has had the same problems plaguing the game since MW and they either get ignored or any attempt to fix it makes it worse. Pokemon also isn't a yearly release going by main title games.
Call of Duty gets new modes, new classes and guns, new maps with each entry
Nigga if you can play one pokemon game, you can play them all. The changes are just as minimal as CoD; those seem like big changes to you, but to non fans it hitting the same notes. CoD chaning era from WWII o Modern day was a huge shift, but regions in Pokemon feel largely interchangable.
Why does CoD get shit for releasing the "same" game with different weapons, equipment, perks, and maps, when in 15 fucking years Counter Strike has gotten barely a handful of new guns and maps and is considered the height of competitive FPS.
Because Pokemon is good
Don't be mad, my little 12-year-old. Both series' are made for youngsters your age, and both are criticized for being recycled each year.
But it doesn't matter anyway as long as you're having fun, right? :^)
It's been yearly since Platinum, not counting spin-offs.
X/Y are complete garbage, and obvious cashgrabs(70 new Pokemon, no postgame, gen 1 pandering out the ass), and almost made me drop the series. ORAS have to be some good shit, or Pokemon can kiss my ass.
What are you talking about, Pokemon gets tons of spin off games that have varied mechanics. Even then the main pokemon games change enough between games beyond a simple retexture and tweeking of gun mechanics.
>Why does Call of Duty get shit on about no real changes when Pokemon is just as guilty?
Because the complaints about Pokémon are always about the aim of the game being the same rather than the game mechanics.
I've yet to hear why for example adding to the types and combinations which barely had any Pokémon(Ghost, Dragon) isn't a real change.
OP you are asking nintendogaf forums. 90% of the homosexual dick riders that frequent this board will funnel shit from nintendo's ass straight into their mouth and gladly ask for second with shit eating grin.
Nintendo can do no wrong. It is okay when nintendo does DLC. It is okay when nintendo consoles are underpowered. It is okay when nintendo re-released a game as an HD port.
>Spawning is still shit
>Maps are still bad
>IW and Treyarch still can't understand not all gametypes work on all maps
>A lot of gametypes like CTF and HQ are fucking horrid
>Only Assault Rifles and SMGs are worth a damn
>Ever since MW2, explosives have been nerfed to shit and barely do any damage even if a grenade lands right in front of someone. C4 is the only thing worth using
>Any perk that doesn't hide you from uavs and helps you aim faster is shit
>Lag is fucking ridiculous at times
The list goes on and and on
Those are all optional as the original entries of each gen are compatible can be used to play against the remakes and sequels and you can trade to get anything you're missing.
I can understand an adult playing COD because it is a flavor of the month and all their friends play. But when I see these weaboo faggots running around a university campus with their fisher price 3ds and pokemon I cant help but just laugh to myself at how fucking retarded they are. I stole my current 3ds xl from one of said faggots. FEELS GOOD MANG.
I wouldn't care if COD games were just rehashes, but they've actively gotten WORSE. At least the Infinity Ward games have,
I love the Treyarch games. IW haven't been able to design multiplayer maps for shit since everybody left after MW2. MW3 and Ghosts were fucking atrocious.
I hear this is one of the most purchased skin packs, which is probably good as it gives you a reason to make fun of the player, much like if they have a MLP emblem or avatar on their profile
A game mode that has been in 3 games, not new.
Literally just playing against bots, that's been a thing for years.
Something that has literally been in every COD game
>Spec Ops Mode
Hasn't that been in COD since COD4?
Gen 2: Dark and Steel-types, Special Split.
Gen 3: Abilities.
Gen 4: Physical/Special Split.
Gen 5: Hidden Abilities, metagame is fucked by giving Politoed and Ninetales Drizzle and Drought.
Gen 6: Steel no longer resists Dark and Ghost, Fairy-type, Mega Evolutions, Drizzle and Drought were nerfed to only last five turns.
If you mean how people regard each here than you're fucking blind.
I will say that Pokemon is more easily liked though because it's colorful, is about collecting, you have tons of cute animals that you're encouraged to pick favorites out of and it produces an enormous amount of wank material. Plus there's nostalgia, really Pokemon has been more important to people from the start so it will get shit on less.
gens 2, 3, and 4 made HUGE changes to battle mechanics. 5, i dont remember what really changed besides the new pokemon, new moves and such, but 6's new type mixed things up in a big way for the core mechanics as well.
New guns and maps dont change mechanics
>Nigga if you can play one pokemon game, you can play them all.
Holy fucking shit, this is not true at all. I trusted you guys when you said "hurr, Pokemon hasn't changed in the last 20 years!", so I thought I'd pick up X/Y since I had a bit of nostalgia for the old games, after only playing Red when I was 8.
Holy fucking shit the game was a clusterfuck. I did not understand half of the new shit at all. Seems like it was just padded out with useless features that don't make any sense. I would have liked it better if they did rehash shit instead of changing it so much it's virtually retarded and an unrecognizable clusterfuck. This is what I expected that Digimon shit to be like.
Also WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T TACKLE DO SHIT AGAINST MAGNETON ANYMORE, FUCK?
X and Y are still compatible with ORAS, it's just limited so that you can't use any of the new Mega Evos, new moves, or new abilities.
That's more than can be said of CoD.
>CoD chaning era from WWII o Modern day was a huge shift, but regions in Pokemon feel largely interchangable.
So if Pokémon went to the far future but didn't introduce any new mechanics and just gave all the Pokémon, characters and buildings a futuristic look it would be a huge shift?
These are games you know?
I've played every COD game past 3.
Combat Training is literally going against bots, nothing special.
Spec Ops mode was a shit mode introduced in MW2, sorry mister shiteater.
Zombies is nothing new, introduced in WaW. Try again.
Sympathy. People who like pokemon are the equivalent of special needs kids. CoD players are low IQ, still looked down upon, but with no real redeeming features (they're at least playing a 'mature' game for 'mature' people)
Because you are posting on fucking Nintendogaf
inb4 I get banned because I said the naughty word
This so fucking much
>"Hurr hurr guys we took out last stand!"
>Next game adds in shit like final stand and dead mans hand
>"Hurk hurk quickscoping is gone for good!"
And Ghosts is literally hide and seek with guns. If someone sees you you're fucked since you go down in less than an attosecond now.
Both games are shit however pokemon is specifically designed for children, even though a lot of retarded autistic manchildren play it. If you seriously follow and play pokemon as an adult you really need to rethink your life choices.
That's almost as retarded as that Fairy shit. At least types in the old games made sense.
Pokemon at least TRIES to be fucking creative and some imaginative.
Yeah, suck it. I know thats a bait statement but this is bait thread.
>WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T TACKLE DO SHIT AGAINST MAGNETON ANYMORE, FUCK?
oh my god is this real, steel type was added in fucking gen 2. that's just like 3 or so years away from the original game.
What a cunt.
Why do people like anime?
Why do people like CoD?
Why does fucking /mlp/ still exsist?
Why are we on fucking 4chan?
>i don't count the literal rehashes to make my point about how pokemon has no rehashes
Except they are now as someone already stated? That's not even counting spinoffs and how there are three games you're supposed to count as one every time which would really shoot up the average.
Some things are out of order but i'm too tired to fix it.
Why do you keep making this thread?
I think its because there are more visible changes to Pokemon than there are to CoD, and people who aren't interested in either series will see that six Pokemon out in battle is a bit different than the normal two. But with CoD, what sort of changes are made in each game? Different campaigns and guns? Unless the gun looks vastly different, your average person who has no knowledge of guns is going to think "what's different about that? Aren't there already guns in this?".
CS takes plenty more skill than CoD
CS also isn't a yearly release
The only reason new CS are made is because in 8 years they say "Oh boy, we haven't done anything with that for awhile, lets release on a new engine", they fix up the graphics, throw in some balance changes and release it for $15, not $60
Steel and dark are from gen 2. I understand you stopped playing after gen 1, but surely you've seen images of Steelix and Umbreon and thought "wow, neither of those look like they could fit into the types which I'm familiar with, maybe they added some".
>and other things to do.
Yeah when I was in elementary school I was extremely busy with all that homework and cartoons I had to watch holy shit. I guess I'm lucky I had a caring middle-class family, and I didn't have to work on a sweatshop, unlike you.
The sad part is, this is probably correct. Half of /v/ is probably composed of waifufags that migranted from /a/ not to long ago.
If anything is "neo" /v/, it's this current, sad state of affairs we call "/v/" now where it's nothing but shitty weeaboo games and otaku ponder shit like Neptunia.
Really it's almost as bad that a car is such a status symbol. You can get by without owning a car, especially if you live in the right places.
Those are hard to come by nowadays if you haven't heard.
>regular sex life
That always has been and always will be a petty point to make, you're supposed to be rewarded with sex for being great, not be great because you have a lot of sex. Some people hold it with a higher meaning or just aren't stupid and save themselves and other people just decide not to have it for other reasons. What do you care if somebody made such a claim?
For the record I at least have a job.
>You even have to buy two versions each year that are nearly identical
You have never been expected to buy both versions. You're supposed to trade with someone who has the other.
The only excuse you had for buying both was that was not knowing anyone else who played Pokemon.
And online battling/trading eliminates that excuse.
Even though the core gameplay never changes much in pokemon, it's still a whole new adventure, in a whole new world, with many new hours of content and stuff. Call of Duty is the exact same thing, absolutely no changes, unless you think that the single player is worth something, but even then it's still not much. Also gets released every single year on every system known to man.
No, it's really not. CoD getting more guns would be like Pokemon getting more creatures. The thing is, Pokemon gets that AND all those other features listed. CoD just gets the guns and rehashed Nuketown.
>That's almost as retarded as that Fairy shit. At least types in the old games made sense.
Yeah how can this metallic magnet Pokémon possibly make sense as a steel type?
>it's still a whole new adventure,
>collect 8 badges
>Team Whateverthefuck wants to use the cover Pokemon to do some semi-evil (but not to evil) thing
You have to subside on a diet of pure, liquid Nintedo-cock to actually believe this
You're retarded. People can rack up dozens or hundreds of hours per Call of Duty. There are new maps, guns, perks, campaigns, and bonus levels in each cod. The gameplay is the exact same but the content is new.
Pokemon and cod are the same shit you stupid fucking nintendrone.
"neo /v/" has been thrown around since forever. I've been visiting this place intermitently for the last 7 years, and I assure you, that the only time where it was noticeably different is during the gamergate shit, when this board was /pol/-lite.
Also there were pokemon and mh generals too.
You're not wrong in saying they both do similar things, but at least Pokemon has a consistent increase in quality as time goes on. Even if not by much. But CoD generally gets worse. After WaW, it was all downhill from there. Black Ops' single player was pretty fucking great, but the multiplayer was still littered with the same issues of MW2.
EVERYTHING on that chart is the equivalent to CoD's amount of guns?
Assuming you're terrible at saying what you mean and you meant how many Pokemon each new game is the same as how many new guns CoD has each new game not even that is true. Pokemon is centered around collecting all the creatures or at least using the regions new ones to become the champ. You do not collect guns in CoD and you must use guns already used in previous games for each playthrough. If you wanted to ask me what a FPS is supposed to strive for I wouldn't know what to tell you, but it sure isn't new guns that have roughly the same effect unlike say Halo.
You don't understand the impact of the change, when a new type of Pokémon is introduced it massively changes the landscape of the game.
Old types now have new weaknesses or something that is immune or resists them, in conjunction with the 70-150 new Pokémon added each generation, new type combinations and new moves and abilities the metagame shifts significantly every new generation.
Does CoD really not get any new features each game it is that just a meme people like to shout? I'm sure there's SOME innovation while also staying true to the original gameplay like Pokemon. Just because a series releases yearly doesn't mean it's bad
>The gameplay is the exact same
Yeah but being turn based, leveling up, and a pokemon having 4 moves each is the only thing that has remained constant throughout each release. Team battles, realtime night cycles, realtime weekdays, ultra evolutions, new types, physical/special split, breeding, etc... are core gameplays features that get added or changed with each new entry. So no, the gameplay is not the exact same between pokemon entries. Unlike CoD.
>Even though the core gameplay never changes much in pokemon
You're wrong though. If you compare gen 2 to gen 1, two new types (dark and steel) were added and the special stat was split into specially attack and special defense. Gen 3 added double battles, natures and abilities, gen 4 added the physical/special split (pretty important addition, it makes the older games much harder to play now). Gen 5 added wild double battles, triple and rotation battles, and gen 6 added the new type fairy and horde battles.
Unless you're talking about turn-based gameplay in Japanese games. It's all the same shit, but when you boil most games in the same genre down to their core mechanics, its all the same shit anyway. There isn't much to complain about there.
Can someone make a list of comparisons between the CoD games please? I'm not familiar with the series but would like to learn more about it and the changes that have been made over the years.
> Pokemon has a consistent increase in quality as time goes on.
The quality of Pokemon games is erratic after gen 2
We can all agree that X and Y were absolute garbage right?
Gold and Silver were by far the worst
>Johto is small and empty
>Kanto is bastardized
>Can't find Johto Pokemon in Johto
>Johto Gym Leaders mostly use Kanto Pokemon
>no post-game content
6 is even worse
> only the most beautiful and stylish may survive in my world. I'll just fucking NUKE the rest.
If the PC wasn't around in X/Y, Lysandre woud have nuked everyone because.....I can't even remember. People weren't stylish enough or something.
Motherfucker is insane.
Same with Cyrus. That guy was a fucking sociopath. And Ghetsis was evil as fuck.
At least Archie and Maxie, while idiots, have good intentions at heart. And even then, only Maxie's plan makes "sense"
Not absolute garbage. There were a lot of good ideas in there, unfinished is the best description. I blame it on being the first 3DS games. DP were pretty crappy too. Z should be a marked improvement and Gen VII will probably be back to form.
>play one of the first pokemon games on an emulator
>play one of the latest
>notice 0 difference aside from slight graphical tweaks
>rinse and repeat for every single pokemon game
>play CoD 2
>play CoD 4: MW, huge difference
>play CoD 5: MW2, noticeable difference between this and MW
None of that shit matters because all the fights boil down to switching to a right element pokemon and then just mashing A while watching slow animations. The AI is retarded and weak as shit and you can never die.
>>play CoD 5: MW2, noticeable difference between this and MW
I don't even know where to begin with this.
That's because beating the game is only scratching the surface of pokemon. Breeding your team to balance type and stat deficiencies and going online is all the fuzz, and that changes with every fucking game. Look, it's fine if you don't like pokemon, but criticizing it without playing it is just plain stupid and it makes you look like a moron.
Years later, these threads still get 200+ replies.
/v/ will forever be a bunch of fucking retards knowingly responding to obvious bait, simply because they're so bored and miserable it's actually ideal for them.
1 was just a generic mobster.
2 was just a much less dangerous incarnation of the generic mobsters team (possibly the least threatening evil team in the franchise)
3 was a pair of eco terrorist teams that actually had legitimate motives and sympathies
4 was a lunatic with a god complex that wanted to re create the world in his image
5 was a pure evil old coot bent on domination even if it ment mind-breaking his own son and using him as a cover up plot to not only sway the masses, but rid the world of its primary defense through PETA tier sympathy
6 was a balls nuts swag fag that was willing to destroy everything that didn't live to his standards
Pokemon teams got fucking crazy as hell after gen 3, to the point that the world was potentially compromised several times on a global, galactic, and time-space scale in different locations. Shits deep as fuck, yo.
I'm primarily implying that COD5 isn't MW2 you dense cunt. But no, there isn't much of a difference between MW and MW2, and I say this as someone who loves those games and hates what COD has become.
X&Y was so shitty I didn't even finish it, shame the best bird pokemon ever was put to waste
Let me show you the truth about your "50 to 100 new Pokemon".
Most of them are just pre-evolved states that amount to nothing more then different artwork, since keeping a Pokemon in a pre-evolved state has absolutely no benefit you will evolve every single one. This drastically cuts down the number of actual Pokemon in any given game.
That's not even taking into account the fact that some of them are so garbage you would never even think about using them.
Yes that is what I'm implying
I haven't played Red\Blue
>I'm primarily implying that COD5 isn't MW2 you dense cunt.
wut, I thought it went MW1 (CoD4) -> MW2 (CoD 5, technically) -> BO (CoD 6, technically)
People only call things rehashes when they don't like them.
You never see anyone calling Megaman a rehash, even though it has like a million games with the same general formula. But, that's because generally people like Megaman, they want/wanted more of it.
Is it bad that a series has tons of games that don't play too differently, when the games are good/you enjoy playing them?
Gen 3 removed night and day
Gen 4 removed clubhouses
Gen 5 removed rematches and pokemon following
Gen 6 removed move tutors
Now that ORAS is adding most of that back (sans the new customization) pokefans are creaming themselves over what appears to be innovation and new content
>Wah I can't compare two things without it being a flamewar how dare someone insult nintendo!
They are both guilty.
MW1 was the highest point, but lacked good single player. MW2 had both good multi and single player. The only thing it was missing was Juggernaut
>inb4 Juggernaut was op.
If every faggot is using Stopping power it negates each other. And that makes the only REAL problem damage related to headshots/body, which makes it a flaw no one felt like correcting. Which is why HARDCORE was the best.
Pokemon G/S/C was highest point. Due to Day/Night/Morning cycle and both regions. It felt like a sequel that improved on every nano-inch of the previous game.
R/S/E made it bad, and D/P brought it back. Only to be destroyed by, well never played Black and White 1/2 so I can't really judge them .
That feel of fighting Red for the first time.
>the lastest COD lets you do some shit when you are close to a cover
wow you don't see many games covering defecation, i guess having to take a shit must be really pressing on a real-life battle situation with no nanomachines.
CoD had massive changes to how classes were set up between MW2 to Blops to MW3 to Blops 2, as well as changes to gametypes, unlocks, weapons and their slots, perks, what-the fuck ever
but it's all basically inconsequential because they crank out so goddamn many it's all a blur
same with pokemon
>Can someone make a list of comparisons between the CoD games please? I'm not familiar with the series but would like to learn more about it and the changes that have been made over the years.
I think it's really just the people.
Back then, everyone was like "Yeah, one additional instalment of my favourite video game franchise! Wicked!"
The again, maybe the general hostility towards franchises with more than three games to them is just a prevalent phenomenon in the social ecosystems I partake in.
Kanto was shit and you know it.
RS was ok,but Emerald blew them outta the water.
Same with Plat and DP.
BW and BW2 are great games,try them.
XY is pretty good with all of the new shit to EV Training and Megas.
>take out the story in a story driven game.
I only got MW3 for the campaign because I wanted to find out what happened after MW2's ending. Same with BO1 and 2. Also zombies is GOAT. CoD has just as much as innovation as Pokemon, but pokebabbies dont wanna own up to the fact that their games are just as casual.
What are you talking about? RSE had day/night, it just wasn't visible. By clubhouse I'm going to assume you mean secret bases, and the reason why that, the Underground, whatever was unique to Unova and trainer customization won't be in any other region is because
>"It's really meant to give unique traits of personalities to the different regions. So with the secret bases, for example, they're really popular in the Hoenn region," Masuda says.
It's bullshit, I know, but I'm guessing they're doing that so the games don't all feel exactly the same. I'm not too sure why they added Pokemon following you in HGSS in the first place as that was unique to Yellow before, but whatever. And what do you mean gen 6 removed move tutors? There are bound to be move tutors in ORAS and Z/XY2. Move tutors have never been in the games that start new generations, always the second version and remakes.
Doesn't matter when they're both shit, and put together, they're still smaller than any of the later regions.
They should have fleshed Johto out more instead of trying to cram Kanto on the cart.
>Kanto was shit and you know it.
Kanto was all bonus content, it didn't matter if it was almost completely deserted, the only point of traveling to Kanto was defeating the old gym leaders and Red. Seeing your old avatar being transformed into a ugely successful trainer, challenging him and defeating it was some legit mind blowing shit.
Introduced EV values.
If there was one thing that fucking pissed me off, it was that. Why the fuck should training my pokemon against certain low level ones count towards a hidden stat, that is near impossible to figure out, outside Natures.
Removal of Day/Night cycle.
Sure it had 'time' events, but they burnt out after 120-ish hours of playing.
I enjoyed Fire Red and Leaf Green more.
It also had more post-E4 content.
>inb4 Battle Frontier.
Not to fun, great for cloning pokemon but thats about it.
Not really, being able to go to the original region is what made the game great. It made it a SEQUEL, due to it actually having a timeline.
Emerald was a step in the right direction.
I'll take your word for BW/XY. Megas imo didn't seem fully useful. I would like alot more.
Imagine if there were 3 Dragon Quest 5 versions where your wife was predetermined
That's pretty comparable to the smogon meta
Did you leave the EXP.Share on?
Hunting for Mega stones
Mewtwo and Birds
Prepping for Online
And the bonus content was terrible.
>Trainer levels was in the 30's
>Gym leaders was in the 40's with the exception of Blue
>Absolutely nothing to do in Kanto
>Implying Red was a tough trainer with his shitty team.
God damn it, so much fucking potential.
>Everything to combat and moving was slow as shit
>Forgettable as fuck legendaries
>Unnecessary evolutions to pokemon like Magmar and Tangela
>Worst starters next to B/W
At least the music was good
Locations, setting, motivations, characters, and even adding fucking choice to the narrative in BO2.
BO2 had gameplay innovation as well. It had those TBS strike missions which nobody liked. Doing those affected the outcome of the story and all in all BO2 had more choice than Mass Effect but nobody cares because I'm the only in this thread that plays for CoD for other reasons than multiplayer
Play it on Veteran buddy.
Not being able to transfer Pokemon from the GBC to GBA games.
I enjoyed R/S/E yeah, but it wasn't as good as the previous.
I did like base building though.
Boring easy as fuck anime shit
>hunting for mega stones
are you serious
looking for items is what you consider a post game? Even then it takes fucking 20 minutes
barebones Battle Frontier
though I will commend them on the AI at times
>mewtwo and the birds
legendary hunting is in every game, this game has had the least in a while
>Prepping for online
also in every game
but I will commend them for introducing Super Training and Horde Flushing
>Seeing your old avatar being transformed into a ugely successful trainer
He was up in a goddamn mountain by himself. I don't know about you but that makes him sound like a failure to me.
EV values were a very good idea, since they allow you to gear your Pokemon towards a specific style. They just shouldn't have made them some secret thing that you only find out about via the internet, but that isn't the case anymore anyway.
How exactly is requiring players to interact with each other fucking them over?
Pokemon is a community-driven game. Without the social elements, I guarantee that it wouldn't have lasted as long as it has.
I dont understand how playing it on Veteran changes things? CoD is straight up bullshit on veteran, but the action movie narrative and cinematics of CoD 4 were really well executed.
cause their fanbase is bigger and cancerous
you dont agree? well, then tell me why moot created a whole board for those obseced manchilds?
Pokemon is MLP of gaming
I tried to play the first one, fucking easy cake, then I moved like a normal person would
>gym leaders and elite 4 still only have 3-4 pokemon
>that awful team flare story
>that boring anime inspired rival shit
>no move tutors
how did they fuck up so badly
>XY was pretty damn good.
What was pretty good about it?
Gym leaders STILL only carrying 3 pokemon
No pokemon that needed megas actually got it?
>God Pokemon, Demon Pokemon and Pokemon that control space and time are more forgettable than chicken-wing fire dragon thing with a small head or a fire dog
>Torterra , Empoleon and Infernape worse than Meganium
insulting nintendo is "starting a flamewar" if people had legit complaints it'd be fine but lately the new meme is "nintendo hate thread" and when people call out your bullshit you go "ITS OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT! NINTENDOGAF"
Great Starters, better than BW's
450 Pokemon in it.
Most of Kalos Pokemon are cool
Made EV training a fucking breeze thanks to EXP.Share+Horde Battles
Megas helped many Pokemon and ORAS looks to be continuing that trend.
What the fuck where they even thinking
I can see how the spirits could be forgettable.
What's wrong with Phione, though?
>>Implying Red was a tough trainer with his shitty team.
Didn't Red manages to get a uber-team at some point in Crystal?
And there's also night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass that made gen 1 feel like legit rock paper scissors in comparison, all that in just the span of a few years.
>anti CoD thread
>anime and japanese game images
>Imagine if there were 3 Dragon Quest 5 versions where your wife was predetermined
that'd suck but every game in a pair has all it's content. the point, even from red and blue, is socialization
>Loses argument, implies Anons are the same person.
Not saying that XY are the best in the series, just pretty good games.
Personally, I don't really like HGSS for still having that terrible level curve and hardly any Johto Pokemon to get. The Gym leaders are still shit for many don't have any Johto Pokemon. The Starters are my 2nd least favs as well after BW's.
Emerald and BW2 are pretty good and I still play them to this day.
>night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass
and they were all implemented like shit, and took almost 8 years to actually see their potential.
GSC is the DMC2 of the Pokemon franchise and it's only "critically acclaimed" because of Nostalgia Goggles.
Why are you surprised that Pokemon fans are using anime and Japanese game images? People who like Japanese games tend to stick with Japanese games, people who like western games stick with western comics and games.
>Didn't Red manages to get a uber-team at some point in Crystal?
His team is still the same in it.
>And there's also night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass that made gen 1 feel like legit rock paper scissors in comparison, all that in just the span of a few years.
Day cycles and Hold Items along with Breeding are the only worthy additions.Weather and BP didn't kick off until later gens and no one use Future Sight.
STAB and 2X weakness was with us from RBY.
>tfw your favorite Pokemon games, region, and music were Diamond, Pearl and Platinum
>the only thing people say about them were "they're too slow," even though Platinum fixed this.
>people ignore them for HGSS
?this retarded assumption that everyone only likes one thing.
fuck you. posting anime images doesnt mean you hate western and vice versa. everyone goes apeshit and goes "ANIMU PICTURE OPINION INVALID"
What does it matter if feautres were improved on later releases? There was an ocean of improvements between gen 1 and 2. It's only not outstanding in retrospect, but that's not being exactly fair, is it?
No, I'm implying the only people on /v/ who hate CoD are weebs. I've never seen any thread against good games like CoD and Bioshock Infinite that aren't spammed with girly weeb shit.
GSC is basically handing you a bunch of new toys, but most of the toys are missing parts or don't even work like they are suppose to.
I'd much prefer 3 useful addition improvements than 20 broken and shoddy additions.
>posting anime pictures makes you a weeb
so my posting this means i have a doll fetish, by your retarded logic
Are people who are buying sex dolls also havin a doll fetish?
If so, do people who own dakimakura have a pillow fetish?
>Pikachu STILL can't do shit against Ground Pokemon
>Venusaur STILL having nothing but STAB
>Starters having Elemental Beams
>Blastoise having Flash Cannon and Focus Blast when Fighting>Steel
>Snorlax having Shadow Ball when it have Crunch and fucking Giga Impact
Only good thing is 3 Pokemon having Blizzard for Hail.
Red is overrated as fuck.
>don't even work like they are suppose to.
But they worked like they were supposed to. They just got even better later on.
I don't get the DMC2 comparison either, that game was a stepdown in many ways compared to the first game, weheras G/S/C is all improvements wherever you looked. Hell, even the stupid exp bar was a big stepup.
Again, I don't think you are being fair.
>its alright when capcom does it
Same shit, no one cares they both suck,
Johto didn't have it better either
>A Pidgey and a Pidgeotto
>A Scyther,Kakuna,and Metapod
>2 Gastly,A Haunter and A Gengar
>Primeape and Poliwrath...No Heracross or Hitmontop
>2 Magnemites and Steelix
>3 Dragonairs and Kingdra.
Well, considering you can beat the Elite 4 at like level 50, and Kanto gym leaders have Pokemon between 50 and 60 and Red's average pokemon level is like 75 and leveling on HG/SS is extremely tedious, then yeah, he's pretty overleveled.
Is there something wrong with saving an image because you like how the reaction is shown in it? That's exactly the point in reaction images, to show how you're feeling. If its exaggerated in an anime screencap and you post it because it works with your post, that doesn't make you a weeb at all.
IVs never change and are generated with the Pokemon, there's values that range from 0 to 31 for each stat, representing one extra stat point each by Lv100. Yes, your Pokemon can have shit genes.
EVs are points you can dump into different stats, the cap for each Pokemon is enough to max out two stats. What EVs you get are determined by the Pokemon you knock out, and you always get them if you get any kind of exp until you hit the cap.
Both have been a staple of Pokemon stats since Gen 3, and Gamefreak has been more open about them overtime.
IVs are decided when you catch a pokemon/hatch it and stay the same no matter what, the only way to get good ones is to find good ones and breed them with other good ones while holding specific items to influence what IVs go where.
EVs are gotten by fighting other pokemon, each pokemon has a certain amount of EVs in certain stats that you get from defeating it. They can be easily decided, as you can just find and battle that one pokemon with the EVs for that specific stat
>people shitting on Gold and Silver
By your logic of why it's shit does that mean X and Y are worse because it's a more recent addition and added a lot less features compared to Gold and Silver despite a botched region
The ironic thing is Cawadooty's intended userbase are 20-something dudebros, while Pokemon's intended userbase are little kids, while Cawadooty's actual userbase are little kids, and Pokemon's are autistic 20-somethings.
Both GSC and XY gave us great additions for the series.
Problem is that GSC's level curve is shit,Gym leaders are shit for having more Kanto pokemon than Johto Pokemon(Not like XY's are good however...)And XY have better selection of Pokemon,
I just have more fun with XY than GSC/HGSS.
Well no I mean
Two bland empty unfinished regions (Kalos and Johto)
Johto introduced breeding, gender, Move tutor, pokerus, a post game battle tower
X and Y introduced
Both of them don't use their respective regional pokemon, etc.
X and Y is a relatively new game you'd think they wouldn't have these issues rifht?
To be honest, at least 100 hours of the 200+ hours of game time in GSC were spent assembling teams for Stadium 2, but still.
After GSC, RBY became literally unplayable to me. That game was so broken and the battles themselves were so barebones it's not funny.
I still dislike Gen 4(Specifically Diamond and Pearl, not Platinum) the most. X and Y had some good ideas(Mega Evolutions, clothes customization, Battle Chateau, Super Training) but it dropped the ball hard after you unlock the full Lumiose City. Everything after that is like a blur of no fun at all and areas being really short. Hell, the reasons they railroad you at times were completely idiotic.
>Lass just stops you from going to Route 22 until you pass a part of the story because "The Pokemon ahead are too strong for you" when you talk to her with level 70+ Pokemon.
>Can't go to parts of Lumiose City before story reasons because "There's a blackout" even though it doesn't matter in the slightest and there's a TV screen on the skyscraper right behind the guy showing Pikachu ads as he tells you that.
These are the two bits that stick out in my mind the most. You could even see who the big bad was the instant he appeared on screen, and when he turns evil and everyone goes "WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS EVIL" was just silly.
The post-game was a bit lacking too. Friend Safari is all well and good, and hunting for Mega Stones was alright, but the Legendary Bird event required you to encounter the damn thing like ten times, and Mewtwo and Zygarde just wait for you in short dungeons so that's no trouble at all.
My biggest problem was not being able to buy Mega Stones. Yeah, I'll just give my friend my exclusive stone that I can't ever get again without starting a new game.
Anyone else hate the idea of EVs and IVs in the first place? I know EVs/IVs have always existed since the beginning but the fact that you have to spend a gorrilion hours oneshotting hordes of shitmons and putting a piece of cardboard in your analog stick to breed pokemon like an autist really discourages me from playing online. Like fuck I just beat the game but I can't even play multiplayer without getting cut a new asshole. It doesn't take any skill to do this, it's just tedious and makes you have to do a shit ton of research if you want to even consider playing the meta.
I liked it when I first played it, but whevnever I choose which to replay I absolutely dread trying to replay HGSS but lookf orward to replaying GSC.
I compare the feeling to that Shiny Gold hack, sure it remade the game, but it added some stuff that I don't always want to deal with.
Just get good.
Despite all of X and Y's faults, it makes it incredibly easy to do that shit.
EVs I can live with. IVs however are much more frustrating, especially when it comes to species you can't breed
I'm pretty sure there could be a better way of handling stat variation and Hidden Power's type.
IVs are dumb and I've always been 100% okay with their removal.
EVs are fine, I'd be totally okay with making them even easier, though. Maybe use that chart for just sliding the stats up or down as you see fit; for specific numbers, maybe they could have manual number input as well. EVs are cool because customizing them lets you do different things; IVs are pretty much always gonna wanna be maxed out unless you're in Trick Room, have a Hidden Power (could have its system changed) or want to minimize confusion/Foul Play damage. Small sacrifices for a bigger return, I think.
IV's i'm fine with. finding a prime specimen is always a treat. it should be less though, perhaps the max IV is 16 instead of 31
EV i'm fine with as well, but needs to be done differently then 'kill X of Y'
You're fucking retarded. Pokemon is always the same concept, because god forbid they created a totally different game messing up what's already good. They add new features all the time. Call of Duty just adds new maps and guns.