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Why does Call of Duty get shit on about no real changes when Pokemon is just as guilty?
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>it's ok when nintendo does it
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It gets shit on all the time you dummy.
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Pokemon gets called out for that all the time. Are you dense?
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Because one is a children's game and the other is Pokemon.
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>>268464470
Pokemon gets it too, but in way less amounts.
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>>268464624
>I only go on /V/
Fuck off loser
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Pokemon is actually good, no need to fix what's not broken, and it isn't released yearly
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>>268464542
This sounds about right. Mario, Zelda, Mario Party, and Mario Kart are all just as guilty. The difference is while they don't change anything, at least the games are fun.
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>>268464594
Because one's a game and the other's Call of Duty.
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>>268464470
Cause cute girls
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>pokemon
>no real change

mechanics introduced/changed in generation 3:

abilities
natures
IV/EV system
contests
double battles
battle frontier
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Because I enjoy pokemon
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The side series are way better than the main series. I honestly can't understand how /vp/ can tolerate the mainline games.
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>>268464470
pokemon gets it every generation it gets the same reactions "what they still make this lol" "i stopped caring the first gen" etc
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>>268464756
What?
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>all these losers with no friends who don't play CoD online together

I always knew most of you were weab watching beta faggots but jesus christ get some friends.
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>>268464470

Because Pokemon has more changes than Call of Duty.

Duh. /v/ really needs to use common sense instead of shitposting for the sake of shitposting.
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>>268464470
Pokemon actually improves on its mechanics every new entry. Call of Duty has had the same problems plaguing the game since MW and they either get ignored or any attempt to fix it makes it worse. Pokemon also isn't a yearly release going by main title games.
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>>268464470

Pokemon completely overhauls it's mechanics every new gen.
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>>268464892
And?
Call of Duty gets new modes, new classes and guns, new maps with each entry
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Why do you get called out on by being a faggot all the time, and you haven't killed yourself yet?
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>>268464892
Nigga if you can play one pokemon game, you can play them all. The changes are just as minimal as CoD; those seem like big changes to you, but to non fans it hitting the same notes. CoD chaning era from WWII o Modern day was a huge shift, but regions in Pokemon feel largely interchangable.
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Because Pokemon changes slightly more and is actually a superb turn-based RPG whereas CoD is a mediocre fps for casuals.
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>>268465183
that changes none of the mechanics
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>>268464470
pokemon hasn't been relying on the (not including bugfixes) same unaltered engine for 90% of its games.
/thread
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Why does CoD get shit for releasing the "same" game with different weapons, equipment, perks, and maps, when in 15 fucking years Counter Strike has gotten barely a handful of new guns and maps and is considered the height of competitive FPS.
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>>268465183

Because abilities and natures and IV/EV system is a mechanical change

guns, maps and modes are just add ons to the existing mechanics.
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>>268464470
Because Pokemon is good
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>>268464470
Don't be mad, my little 12-year-old. Both series' are made for youngsters your age, and both are criticized for being recycled each year.

But it doesn't matter anyway as long as you're having fun, right? :^)
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>pokemon gets new things every game
you mean new gimmicks
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>>268465286
Why should this get reported
It's a perfectly fine vidya thread
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>>268465316
because counter strike is one game
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>>268465081
Does it still have HMs?
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>>268464774
>Pokemon
>not yearly
It's been yearly since Platinum, not counting spin-offs.

X/Y are complete garbage, and obvious cashgrabs(70 new Pokemon, no postgame, gen 1 pandering out the ass), and almost made me drop the series. ORAS have to be some good shit, or Pokemon can kiss my ass.
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>>268464892
But Battle Frontier and Contests are gone

Has CoD ever taken out one of its shit?
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>>268464470

What are you talking about, Pokemon gets tons of spin off games that have varied mechanics. Even then the main pokemon games change enough between games beyond a simple retexture and tweeking of gun mechanics.
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>>268464470
>Why does Call of Duty get shit on about no real changes when Pokemon is just as guilty?

Because the complaints about Pokémon are always about the aim of the game being the same rather than the game mechanics.

I've yet to hear why for example adding to the types and combinations which barely had any Pokémon(Ghost, Dragon) isn't a real change.
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>>268464470
Pokemon gets shit on because it's not exactly like Gen 1 and 2. What are you talking about?
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>>268465441
Counter Strike is three games.
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OP you are asking nintendogaf forums. 90% of the homosexual dick riders that frequent this board will funnel shit from nintendo's ass straight into their mouth and gladly ask for second with shit eating grin.

Nintendo can do no wrong. It is okay when nintendo does DLC. It is okay when nintendo consoles are underpowered. It is okay when nintendo re-released a game as an HD port.
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>>268465472
balanced for lean[/spoilers]

also, neither of those are "gone", they just transformed into another variant I.E. battle subway

surprise, another change
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>>268465363
The answer, right here.
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>>268465462

Red and Blue: 1996
Gold and Silver: 1999
Ruby and Sapphire: 2002
Diamond and Pearl: 2006
Black and White: 2010
X and Y: 2013
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>>268464470
X&Y Gen
>being this gay
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>>268465437
because /v/ is nintendogaf
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>>268465081
Was there corn in today's helping of nintendo shit? You better not be over the age of 12 you fucking homo.
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>>268465647
Oh I dont play it so whatever then. But being competitive is why it changes so little. Tourneyfags hate changing meta game
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>>268464470
Pokemon introduces a lot of new mechanics
COD has been the same for the past 4 games, yes I've played them.
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>>268465183
>Spawning is still shit
>Maps are still bad
>IW and Treyarch still can't understand not all gametypes work on all maps
>A lot of gametypes like CTF and HQ are fucking horrid
>Only Assault Rifles and SMGs are worth a damn
>Ever since MW2, explosives have been nerfed to shit and barely do any damage even if a grenade lands right in front of someone. C4 is the only thing worth using
>Garbage matchmaking
>Any perk that doesn't hide you from uavs and helps you aim faster is shit
>Lag is fucking ridiculous at times
The list goes on and and on
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>>268465817
you left out a couple games mate
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>>268465817
>not counting remakes and sequels
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>>268465259
Pokemon has tons of mechanic changes between each game. Of course you wouldn't notice them if you just run through the main story and don't do any of the other shit.
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Because Pokemon is not just as guilty.
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>>268465817
you forgot
Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver 2009
Pokémon Black and White 2 2012
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>>268465259
>mechanical changes
>as minimal as CoD

u wot
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>>268465437

The sole purpose of this thread is to start a flamewar
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>>268465259
>Nigga if you can play one pokemon game, you can play them all

Sure, if you're only talking about the main story.

The actual battles change every gen.
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>>268465443
HM usage was toned down a lot in X/Y
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I love how the faggots who frequent this nintendo propaganda forum try to justify their shit rock paper scissor rpg being a fucking rehash every year.
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>>268466046

Those are all optional as the original entries of each gen are compatible can be used to play against the remakes and sequels and you can trade to get anything you're missing.
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>>268464470

because only children play pokemon and many adults play CoD. adults expect more and are more assertive with their expectations.
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>>268466072
>>268465983
I don't see the point in counting remakes.
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>>268464823
>Zelda
Maybe the 2D games, but if you think there are no changes between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess you are fucking retarded.
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Pokemon gets shit on all the time. Even Pokemon fans shit on their games more than Call of Duty ones.
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>>268465183
>new maps
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>>268466056
So does CoD.

wut is zombies


wut is Combat Training


Wut is BO2 campaign


Wut is Spec Ops mode


Face it kiddo, CoD and Pokemon rehash just as much.
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>>268466232
NOT ANYMORE THEY'RE NOT
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/pokemon_x_and_y_wont_be_patched_to_accommodate_new_mega_evolutions
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>Pokemon is the same every game
D/P's battling is completely different from B/W
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>>268466281
>remakes
>have more content
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>>268466198

>Rock paper scissors

try again
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I can understand an adult playing COD because it is a flavor of the month and all their friends play. But when I see these weaboo faggots running around a university campus with their fisher price 3ds and pokemon I cant help but just laugh to myself at how fucking retarded they are. I stole my current 3ds xl from one of said faggots. FEELS GOOD MANG.
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>>268466439
this is the only thing I disagree with, B&W didn't bring any mechanical changes other than the stupid triple/rotation battles
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>>268466568
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I wouldn't care if COD games were just rehashes, but they've actively gotten WORSE. At least the Infinity Ward games have, I love the Treyarch games. IW haven't been able to design multiplayer maps for shit since everybody left after MW2. MW3 and Ghosts were fucking atrocious.
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>>268466436
Can't wait for Pokemon Z!
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>>268466515
The nintentard is upset.
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>>268464823
>while they don't change anything,
yeah, you're just shit posting. fuck off
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>>268466586
oh and I guess you can see your opponent's team before battle

good in some ways, fucks over many pokemon though
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>>268466436

Though you can still play OR/AS players with your copy of X/Y that's more than you can say for any CoD entry.
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>>268466424
Mechanical Changes != Additional game modes
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>>268466646
>in an age where patching to accommodate updated content, we have to buy a completely new game rather than get a patch

This is Capcom-tier.
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>>268465363

I hear this is one of the most purchased skin packs, which is probably good as it gives you a reason to make fun of the player, much like if they have a MLP emblem or avatar on their profile
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>>268466424
>Zombies
A game mode that has been in 3 games, not new.
>Combat Training
Literally just playing against bots, that's been a thing for years.
>Campaign
Something that has literally been in every COD game
>Spec Ops Mode
Hasn't that been in COD since COD4?
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>>268466782
Hey bro, don't you DARE call out nintendo for doing anything wrong bitch.
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Gen 2: Dark and Steel-types, Special Split.
Gen 3: Abilities.
Gen 4: Physical/Special Split.
Gen 5: Hidden Abilities, metagame is fucked by giving Politoed and Ninetales Drizzle and Drought.
Gen 6: Steel no longer resists Dark and Ghost, Fairy-type, Mega Evolutions, Drizzle and Drought were nerfed to only last five turns.
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>>268466853
>I havent played the games
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Was it BW2 or Ghosts that literally took MW2's ending and used it?
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>>268464470
If you mean how people regard each here than you're fucking blind.

I will say that Pokemon is more easily liked though because it's colorful, is about collecting, you have tons of cute animals that you're encouraged to pick favorites out of and it produces an enormous amount of wank material. Plus there's nostalgia, really Pokemon has been more important to people from the start so it will get shit on less.
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>>268465259
gens 2, 3, and 4 made HUGE changes to battle mechanics. 5, i dont remember what really changed besides the new pokemon, new moves and such, but 6's new type mixed things up in a big way for the core mechanics as well.

New guns and maps dont change mechanics
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Pokemon has more hentai material.
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>>268465462
>no postgame

so, you didn't play the game ?
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>>268465259
>Nigga if you can play one pokemon game, you can play them all.
Holy fucking shit, this is not true at all. I trusted you guys when you said "hurr, Pokemon hasn't changed in the last 20 years!", so I thought I'd pick up X/Y since I had a bit of nostalgia for the old games, after only playing Red when I was 8.

Holy fucking shit the game was a clusterfuck. I did not understand half of the new shit at all. Seems like it was just padded out with useless features that don't make any sense. I would have liked it better if they did rehash shit instead of changing it so much it's virtually retarded and an unrecognizable clusterfuck. This is what I expected that Digimon shit to be like.

Also WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T TACKLE DO SHIT AGAINST MAGNETON ANYMORE, FUCK?
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>>268466782

X and Y are still compatible with ORAS, it's just limited so that you can't use any of the new Mega Evos, new moves, or new abilities.

That's more than can be said of CoD.
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>>268465259
>CoD chaning era from WWII o Modern day was a huge shift, but regions in Pokemon feel largely interchangable.

So if Pokémon went to the far future but didn't introduce any new mechanics and just gave all the Pokémon, characters and buildings a futuristic look it would be a huge shift?

These are games you know?
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>>268467053
>CoD only has multiplayer

I only get them for co-op and the Treyarch ones for campaign, but the games are just as diverse Pokemon
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>>268467265
poe's law is a wonderful thing
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>>268467209
>Battle Tower
>20 minute sidequest
That's literally it.
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>>268467265
>Also WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T TACKLE DO SHIT AGAINST MAGNETON ANYMORE, FUCK?

Because Magnemite is part Steel-type now, and Steel resists Normal?
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>>268466975
>making assumptions
I've played every COD game past 3.

Combat Training is literally going against bots, nothing special.

Spec Ops mode was a shit mode introduced in MW2, sorry mister shiteater.

Zombies is nothing new, introduced in WaW. Try again.
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Sympathy. People who like pokemon are the equivalent of special needs kids. CoD players are low IQ, still looked down upon, but with no real redeeming features (they're at least playing a 'mature' game for 'mature' people)
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both peaked at their fourth game
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>>268464470
Because you are posting on fucking Nintendogaf

inb4 I get banned because I said the naughty word
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>>268467265
Steel type resists normal type attacks. That's like using Ember on a Blastoise and bitching that nothing happens.
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>>268467426
>I have better taste
>plays pokemon
lol
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>>268465932
This so fucking much
>"Hurr hurr guys we took out last stand!"
>Next game adds in shit like final stand and dead mans hand
>"Hurk hurk quickscoping is gone for good!"
>QUICKZOOMING!
And Ghosts is literally hide and seek with guns. If someone sees you you're fucked since you go down in less than an attosecond now.
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Both games are shit however pokemon is specifically designed for children, even though a lot of retarded autistic manchildren play it. If you seriously follow and play pokemon as an adult you really need to rethink your life choices.
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>>268467421
>Steel
That's almost as retarded as that Fairy shit. At least types in the old games made sense.
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Pokemon at least TRIES to be fucking creative and some imaginative.

Yeah, suck it. I know thats a bait statement but this is bait thread.
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>>268467535
this is a joke right

diamond and pearl are trash, platinum salvaged what it could and made them much better, but is still lacking
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>>268467636

here's your reply, master baiter
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>>268467265
>WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T TACKLE DO SHIT AGAINST MAGNETON ANYMORE, FUCK?
oh my god is this real, steel type was added in fucking gen 2. that's just like 3 or so years away from the original game.
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>>268465276
>superb

So that's why even my 4 year old niece can beat it.
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>>268467653
rock and ground make sense but steel doesn't?

take off your goggles
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Mainline Pokemon games aren't an annualized release.
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>>268464756
lol wat
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>>268467761
as opposed to what came after them? fucking gen 5 and 6 are trash
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>>268467849
4 year olds can learn chess too, doesn't mean it's not a deep game.
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>>268467389
>20 minute sidequest

are you talking about the looker quests because its a lot fucking longer than 20 mins.

also
>not battling online
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>>268467636
What a cunt.
Why do people like anime?
Why do people like CoD?
Why does fucking /mlp/ still exsist?
Why are we on fucking 4chan?
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>>268467849
but can your 4 year old niece beat me off?
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>>268467653
>At least types in the old games made sense.
magneton has been steel since the second game
pretty sure that still counts as old
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>>268467653

>Rock
>Ghost
>Bug
>Dragon
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>>268467770
I bet you play pokemon. I also bet you don't have a driver's license, a job, or have sex on the regular.
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>>268467653
Steel type is from an old games
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>>268466281
>i don't count the literal rehashes to make my point about how pokemon has no rehashes
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>>268467887
Except they are now as someone already stated? That's not even counting spinoffs and how there are three games you're supposed to count as one every time which would really shoot up the average.
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>>268468021

The majority of /v/ doesn't have any of those things, what's your point?
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>>268468021
I do but I'm not that guy and I'm cool with Pokemon. Its fun.
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>>268467453
>one of the best selling vidya franchises of all time
>everyone who likes it is literally retarded!

shitpost hardrer
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>>268467761
>diamond and pearl
>4th game
There were a fuck ton of games before that man.
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>>268467790
I never played the second games. I only had Red and grew out of it before the other games came out. I had other games to play and other things to do.
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>>268464470
Because CoD releases a new game every year whereas pokemon only releases every 3 or 4 years
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Some things are out of order but i'm too tired to fix it.
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>>268467653
did you only play the first game. were you the original genwunner back in college
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>>268468131
that the majority of /v/ is full of nintendo cock suckers.
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>>268468174
And yet, here we are, both on /v/.
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Why do you keep making this thread?

I think its because there are more visible changes to Pokemon than there are to CoD, and people who aren't interested in either series will see that six Pokemon out in battle is a bit different than the normal two. But with CoD, what sort of changes are made in each game? Different campaigns and guns? Unless the gun looks vastly different, your average person who has no knowledge of guns is going to think "what's different about that? Aren't there already guns in this?".
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>>268468009
Yes.

>>268467982
Yes, but does that mean that they can beat an experienced adult at it? It's two different scenarios.
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>>268468079
The point was that Pokemon was a yearly release. Going by the main series it isn't. I guess any game that has spinoff shit between the main titles are rehashes too right?
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>>268465316
CS takes plenty more skill than CoD
CS also isn't a yearly release
The only reason new CS are made is because in 8 years they say "Oh boy, we haven't done anything with that for awhile, lets release on a new engine", they fix up the graphics, throw in some balance changes and release it for $15, not $60
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>>268468321
New co op modes and stories in the campaign.
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>>268468224
The majority of /v/ is filled with cocksuckers for Sony and Nintendo. They get more vocal than each other depending on the day.
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>>268464470

Because pokegirls.
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Most people grew up with Pokemon and not CoD.
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>>268468185
low quality b8
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>>268467653
Steel and dark are from gen 2. I understand you stopped playing after gen 1, but surely you've seen images of Steelix and Umbreon and thought "wow, neither of those look like they could fit into the types which I'm familiar with, maybe they added some".
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>>268467602
Not him, but you're really avoiding the argument here
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>>268468187
>8 directional walking
awwwwww shit nigga
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>>268468174
>and other things to do.
Yeah when I was in elementary school I was extremely busy with all that homework and cartoons I had to watch holy shit. I guess I'm lucky I had a caring middle-class family, and I didn't have to work on a sweatshop, unlike you.
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>>268468341
Dude it's a yearly rehash. You even have to buy two versions each year that are nearly identical.
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>>268468620
Pokemon meet the future.
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>>268468187
This is the equivalent of saying each CoD has more guns, it's a change but ultimately an irrelevant change
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>>268468473

The sad part is, this is probably correct. Half of /v/ is probably composed of waifufags that migranted from /a/ not to long ago.

If anything is "neo" /v/, it's this current, sad state of affairs we call "/v/" now where it's nothing but shitty weeaboo games and otaku ponder shit like Neptunia.
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>>268468697
You don't have to buy both versions if you have a friend to trade with.
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>>268468021
>driver's license
Really it's almost as bad that a car is such a status symbol. You can get by without owning a car, especially if you live in the right places.
>job
Those are hard to come by nowadays if you haven't heard.
>regular sex life
That always has been and always will be a petty point to make, you're supposed to be rewarded with sex for being great, not be great because you have a lot of sex. Some people hold it with a higher meaning or just aren't stupid and save themselves and other people just decide not to have it for other reasons. What do you care if somebody made such a claim?

For the record I at least have a job.
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>>268468785
>anyone migrating to /v/

You can't be fucking serious.
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>>268468697
>You even have to buy two versions each year that are nearly identical

You have never been expected to buy both versions. You're supposed to trade with someone who has the other.

The only excuse you had for buying both was that was not knowing anyone else who played Pokemon.

And online battling/trading eliminates that excuse.
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>>268464470
Even though the core gameplay never changes much in pokemon, it's still a whole new adventure, in a whole new world, with many new hours of content and stuff. Call of Duty is the exact same thing, absolutely no changes, unless you think that the single player is worth something, but even then it's still not much. Also gets released every single year on every system known to man.
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>>268468821
You don't even need a friend, you can use the GTS.
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>>268468821
That's rendered irrelevant since you can trade online and stuff.
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>>268468778

No, it's really not. CoD getting more guns would be like Pokemon getting more creatures. The thing is, Pokemon gets that AND all those other features listed. CoD just gets the guns and rehashed Nuketown.
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>>268468785
Do you feel like you fit in yet?
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>>268468980
This nigga gets it
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>>268468070
>posting saionji
i bet you like nonon too and shitpost on facebook while crying about having no gf
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>>268467653
>Steel
>That's almost as retarded as that Fairy shit. At least types in the old games made sense.

Yeah how can this metallic magnet Pokémon possibly make sense as a steel type?
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>>268468697
>You even have to buy two versions

The last time that was even remotely true was Gen 3, and that was only if you didn't know anyone that had the other version.
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>>268468867
>it's still a whole new adventure,
>collect 8 badges
>Team Whateverthefuck wants to use the cover Pokemon to do some semi-evil (but not to evil) thing

You have to subside on a diet of pure, liquid Nintedo-cock to actually believe this
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>>268468785

>Not liking Neptunia

Faggot.
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>>268468778
Adding a new type and altering a load of the existing type matchups is not an irrelevant change. Mega Evolutions are not an irrelevant change.
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>>268469147
>same formula = same thing

We would've gotten bored of math way long ago if that was true
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>>268469090
Saionji a shit. She just has some good facial expressions.
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>>268468980
Half of those features are new moves and new Pokemon. Which is the equivalent of more guns and more perks.
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>>268468785
Holy fuck is this your first month on /v/? /v/ had Pokegirl threads all the time before /vp/ was added.
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>>268469235
>We would've gotten bored of math

Every non-autist is bored of math after the first year in elementary school, you cretin
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>>268469290
I'm sure some autist on /vp/ who sets on Smogon all day can tell you in greater detail the changes between each game.
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>>268468867
You're retarded. People can rack up dozens or hundreds of hours per Call of Duty. There are new maps, guns, perks, campaigns, and bonus levels in each cod. The gameplay is the exact same but the content is new.

Pokemon and cod are the same shit you stupid fucking nintendrone.
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>>268468785
"neo /v/" has been thrown around since forever. I've been visiting this place intermitently for the last 7 years, and I assure you, that the only time where it was noticeably different is during the gamergate shit, when this board was /pol/-lite.
Also there were pokemon and mh generals too.
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>>268469147

That's like saying that every Mario game is the same because Mario rescues Peach from Bowser
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I bet you all are upset they removed Pokemon following you on the overworld.
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>>268469175
>Liking CH Kusoge
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You're not wrong in saying they both do similar things, but at least Pokemon has a consistent increase in quality as time goes on. Even if not by much. But CoD generally gets worse. After WaW, it was all downhill from there. Black Ops' single player was pretty fucking great, but the multiplayer was still littered with the same issues of MW2.
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>>268469537
>That's like saying that every Mario game is the same

It is.
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>>268469415
>There are new maps, guns, perks, campaigns, and bonus levels in each cod

Those are all superficial. It's literally the equivalent of achievements.
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>>268469415
I could play Ground Zeroes again and again and again. That doesn't mean that it has hundreds of hours of content.
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>>268468778
EVERYTHING on that chart is the equivalent to CoD's amount of guns?

Assuming you're terrible at saying what you mean and you meant how many Pokemon each new game is the same as how many new guns CoD has each new game not even that is true. Pokemon is centered around collecting all the creatures or at least using the regions new ones to become the champ. You do not collect guns in CoD and you must use guns already used in previous games for each playthrough. If you wanted to ask me what a FPS is supposed to strive for I wouldn't know what to tell you, but it sure isn't new guns that have roughly the same effect unlike say Halo.
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>>268468778

You don't understand the impact of the change, when a new type of Pokémon is introduced it massively changes the landscape of the game.

Old types now have new weaknesses or something that is immune or resists them, in conjunction with the 70-150 new Pokémon added each generation, new type combinations and new moves and abilities the metagame shifts significantly every new generation.
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>>268469673
Getting 70 new Pokemon that are all garbage, with 50 of them being pre-evolution is also fucking nothing.
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>>268468187
Put Pokémon-Amie on Gen 6
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>>268464470
Does CoD really not get any new features each game it is that just a meme people like to shout? I'm sure there's SOME innovation while also staying true to the original gameplay like Pokemon. Just because a series releases yearly doesn't mean it's bad
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>>268469147
>semi-evil (but not too evil) thing
Explain gen 4 and gen 5's evil teams then. Those moteherfuckers were doing deranged shit, 4's much more so than 5's.
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Pokemon has been shit ever since Gold and Silver.
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>>268469415
>The gameplay is the exact same
Yeah but being turn based, leveling up, and a pokemon having 4 moves each is the only thing that has remained constant throughout each release. Team battles, realtime night cycles, realtime weekdays, ultra evolutions, new types, physical/special split, breeding, etc... are core gameplays features that get added or changed with each new entry. So no, the gameplay is not the exact same between pokemon entries. Unlike CoD.
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>>268469814
>Getting 70 new Pokemon that are all garbage
Opinions

>with 50 of them being pre-evolution
Wrong
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>>268468867
>Even though the core gameplay never changes much in pokemon
You're wrong though. If you compare gen 2 to gen 1, two new types (dark and steel) were added and the special stat was split into specially attack and special defense. Gen 3 added double battles, natures and abilities, gen 4 added the physical/special split (pretty important addition, it makes the older games much harder to play now). Gen 5 added wild double battles, triple and rotation battles, and gen 6 added the new type fairy and horde battles.

Unless you're talking about turn-based gameplay in Japanese games. It's all the same shit, but when you boil most games in the same genre down to their core mechanics, its all the same shit anyway. There isn't much to complain about there.

Can someone make a list of comparisons between the CoD games please? I'm not familiar with the series but would like to learn more about it and the changes that have been made over the years.
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>>268469626
> Pokemon has a consistent increase in quality as time goes on.
>consistent

The quality of Pokemon games is erratic after gen 2
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>>268469651
You're a cunt, Mario games didn't become incredibly samey until the DS and even then there's games like Galaxy.
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>>268469856
Here is your reply
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>>268469651

cool story bro
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>>268469607
I am actually.
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We can all agree that X and Y were absolute garbage right?
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>>268464470
People have nostalgia for Pokemon. Call of Duty doesn't have that yet
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>>268469856

Gold and Silver were by far the worst

>Johto is small and empty
>Kanto is bastardized
>Can't find Johto Pokemon in Johto
>Johto Gym Leaders mostly use Kanto Pokemon
>no post-game content
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>>268469147
>Semi-evil (but not to [sic] evil) thing
Confirmed retarded.
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>>268464914
Because the most recent Mystery Dungeon is shit and I never really cared for Ranger
I also like the main series because I get to venture with new bros every time
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>>268464878
pls tell me you have more around
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>>268469834
6 is even worse

> only the most beautiful and stylish may survive in my world. I'll just fucking NUKE the rest.

If the PC wasn't around in X/Y, Lysandre woud have nuked everyone because.....I can't even remember. People weren't stylish enough or something.


Motherfucker is insane.
Same with Cyrus. That guy was a fucking sociopath. And Ghetsis was evil as fuck.


At least Archie and Maxie, while idiots, have good intentions at heart. And even then, only Maxie's plan makes "sense"
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>>268469814
It's also fucking untrue, but regardless, Pokemon actually introduces new features which have legitimate effects on the game's combat mechanics. Not like "lolnewguns"
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you know, every game is the fucking same, you press buttons to react to whatever's on your screen, fucking rehashes wake up sheeple you are being fed the same shit for years and years.
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3 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 1
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At least Call of Duty doesn't remove features each time to force a game to be unique
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>>268469090
When would he need to go to Facebook for that when it's normal here?
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>>268469834
Gen 6's leader wanted to commit fucking genocide.
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>>268470260
5 > 2 > 6 = 3 > 1 > 4
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>>268470121
Not absolute garbage. There were a lot of good ideas in there, unfinished is the best description. I blame it on being the first 3DS games. DP were pretty crappy too. Z should be a marked improvement and Gen VII will probably be back to form.
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>>268470121
No.
They are "okay".
Better than D\P
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>>268470260
I literally agree with this 100%.
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>>268470260
3 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 1 >>> 4

Pretending remakes don't exist.
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>>268470215
>lolnewguns

New guns and perks have a much bigger impact on the game then 50 pre-evolved Pokemon with a base stat total of 100
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>>268469814
>50 of them being pre-evolution

none of XY's new Pokemon are related to old Pokemon, except Sylveon

bait confirmed, gtfo
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>>268470187
...Kanto is the post-game you stupid idiot, oh my god i just got baited super hard.
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>>268470187
This. Currently Nuzlocking HG. I have 5 Pokemon in my party and only my fucking starter is a Gen2 mon.

And offcourse, with my luck I only run into Rattatas and no Hoothoots..
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>>268470260
Not counting remakes
5>3>6>2>4>1
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>play one of the first pokemon games on an emulator
>play one of the latest
>notice 0 difference aside from slight graphical tweaks
>rinse and repeat for every single pokemon game

>play CoD 2
>play CoD 4: MW, huge difference
>play CoD 5: MW2, noticeable difference between this and MW
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>>268470213
Lysandre wanted to kill all pokemon because people kept fighting over them or something along the lines of that.
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>>268470384
They really don't, and you've clearly haven't played Pokemon since you were a kid, but whatever, if trolling really makes you happy.
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>>268469881
None of that shit matters because all the fights boil down to switching to a right element pokemon and then just mashing A while watching slow animations. The AI is retarded and weak as shit and you can never die.
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>>268468821
Still, it's a bad business practice.

>>268468864
I used to not have reliable internet, but this was years ago.
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>>268470384
> what is Mega Evolution?
> What is the Fairy type?
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>>268470518
:^)
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>>268470519

No, his goal was population reduction.

Limited resources and all that jazz.
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>>268470518
>B&W
>full color, completely new art style, 3D, "3D"

>slight graphical tweaks
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>>268470647
>mega evolution
a new gun
>fairy type
a new perk
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>>268470518
>>play CoD 5: MW2, noticeable difference between this and MW
I don't even know where to begin with this.
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>>268470590
That's why online exists. Oh wait I forgot that anyone that puts enough time on a game is an autist.
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>>268470590

>using the AI as part of his argument
>in a multiplayer game

LOOK AT HIM

LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
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>>268470649
Great retort

>>268470760
Are you really implying you couldn't be able to tell the difference between MW2 and the original MW?
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>>268470590
That's because beating the game is only scratching the surface of pokemon. Breeding your team to balance type and stat deficiencies and going online is all the fuzz, and that changes with every fucking game. Look, it's fine if you don't like pokemon, but criticizing it without playing it is just plain stupid and it makes you look like a moron.
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I just played Y last year and I've already forgotten everything about the game except for the girls.

Is there something wrong with me?
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Years later, these threads still get 200+ replies.

/v/ will forever be a bunch of fucking retards knowingly responding to obvious bait, simply because they're so bored and miserable it's actually ideal for them.
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>>268470745
>A new gun
A new pokémon
>A new perk
A new ability

You can't use "a new gun and a new perk" for every single thing that they add, you know.
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>>268470260
5>6>3>4>1>2
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>>268470213
Exactly.

1 was just a generic mobster.
2 was just a much less dangerous incarnation of the generic mobsters team (possibly the least threatening evil team in the franchise)
3 was a pair of eco terrorist teams that actually had legitimate motives and sympathies

4 was a lunatic with a god complex that wanted to re create the world in his image
5 was a pure evil old coot bent on domination even if it ment mind-breaking his own son and using him as a cover up plot to not only sway the masses, but rid the world of its primary defense through PETA tier sympathy
6 was a balls nuts swag fag that was willing to destroy everything that didn't live to his standards


Pokemon teams got fucking crazy as hell after gen 3, to the point that the world was potentially compromised several times on a global, galactic, and time-space scale in different locations. Shits deep as fuck, yo.
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>>268470847
I'm primarily implying that COD5 isn't MW2 you dense cunt. But no, there isn't much of a difference between MW and MW2, and I say this as someone who loves those games and hates what COD has become.
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>>268470847
Are you really implying you couldn't be able to tell the difference between X\Y and the original Red\Blue?
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>>268470518
Can you list those CoD differences? In the style of >>268469972. I want to make an image comparing the two franchises and listing the differences and additions in each game.
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>>268471058
I await the batshit insane Villain for Gen 7.
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Why do so many pokemon fans defend removed customization and backwards compatability?
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>>268471293
>removed customization
u wot
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>>268464470
X&Y was so shitty I didn't even finish it, shame the best bird pokemon ever was put to waste
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>>268471264
More like on this style >>268468187
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>>268471293
>removed customization

Huh?
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Let me show you the truth about your "50 to 100 new Pokemon".

Most of them are just pre-evolved states that amount to nothing more then different artwork, since keeping a Pokemon in a pre-evolved state has absolutely no benefit you will evolve every single one. This drastically cuts down the number of actual Pokemon in any given game.

That's not even taking into account the fact that some of them are so garbage you would never even think about using them.
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>>268471109
Yes that is what I'm implying I haven't played Red\Blue

>>268471094
>I'm primarily implying that COD5 isn't MW2 you dense cunt.
wut, I thought it went MW1 (CoD4) -> MW2 (CoD 5, technically) -> BO (CoD 6, technically)
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>>268471293

Backwards compatibility wasn't removed, it's just limited

See >>268467310
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People only call things rehashes when they don't like them.
You never see anyone calling Megaman a rehash, even though it has like a million games with the same general formula. But, that's because generally people like Megaman, they want/wanted more of it.
Is it bad that a series has tons of games that don't play too differently, when the games are good/you enjoy playing them?
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>>268469972
Gen 3 removed night and day
Gen 4 removed clubhouses
Gen 5 removed rematches and pokemon following
Gen 6 removed move tutors
Now that ORAS is adding most of that back (sans the new customization) pokefans are creaming themselves over what appears to be innovation and new content
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>>268471461
Eviolite exists for that.
Shame it doesn't work that well
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>>268471412
Oh hell I didn't even see that. Thanks anon.
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>>268471293
Customization doesn't make the game for me. Especially for male trainers. And no backwards compatibility has always been with us.
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>>268466148
>Wah I can't compare two things without it being a flamewar how dare someone insult nintendo!
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>>268471556
>You never see anyone calling Megaman a rehash

Because the games are dead and so is the fanbase.
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>>268471526
>Yes that is what I'm implying
Okay here are the changes:
>>268468187
Besides story and shit. Could you show me COD changes not counting the story?
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>>268471556
>You never see anyone calling Megaman a rehash
EGM totally did back in the day. And it was.
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>>268471461
So your opinions are the only reason pokemon is the same as cod
good to know
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>>268471526
World at War is COD5.
MW2 is COD6.
Black Ops is COD7.
It's rather telling that you're completely unfamiliar with the series that you're trying to defend.
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>>268465301
the lastest COD lets you do some shit when you are close to a cover, and you can swap between scopes now.
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>>268471578
>Gen 6 removed move tutors
u wut m8
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>>268471690
>And no backwards compatibility has always been with us
Yeah
ON A NEW GENERATION
NOT THE SAME FUCKING GEN
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>>268471461
Wow you're a faggot, it's amazing how good those pokemon and how much value they all hold compared to now
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>>268471889
>What is Platinum?
>What is Black 2\White 2 ?
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>>268464470
They are both guilty.
MW1 was the highest point, but lacked good single player. MW2 had both good multi and single player. The only thing it was missing was Juggernaut
>inb4 Juggernaut was op.
If every faggot is using Stopping power it negates each other. And that makes the only REAL problem damage related to headshots/body, which makes it a flaw no one felt like correcting. Which is why HARDCORE was the best.
Pokemon G/S/C was highest point. Due to Day/Night/Morning cycle and both regions. It felt like a sequel that improved on every nano-inch of the previous game.
R/S/E made it bad, and D/P brought it back. Only to be destroyed by, well never played Black and White 1/2 so I can't really judge them .
That feel of fighting Red for the first time.
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>>268466853
>Something that has literally been in every COD game
He is talking that BLOPS 2 have more than ?? endings.
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>>268471836
>the lastest COD lets you do some shit when you are close to a cover
wow you don't see many games covering defecation, i guess having to take a shit must be really pressing on a real-life battle situation with no nanomachines.
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>>268466121
CoD had massive changes to how classes were set up between MW2 to Blops to MW3 to Blops 2, as well as changes to gametypes, unlocks, weapons and their slots, perks, what-the fuck ever

but it's all basically inconsequential because they crank out so goddamn many it's all a blur

same with pokemon
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>>268472045
what did R/S/E do?
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>>268471889
You couldn't get Giratina-Origin in DP along with Sky Shaymin and Rotom's forms.

Always been with us.
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Pokemon X is the worst game I own for 3DS and X and Y are probably the worst Pokemon games ever made
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>>268471385
>>268471414
You can't change how your trainer looks anymore
For a whole year I expected GF to improve upon the barebones introduced in X/Y
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>>268469972
>Can someone make a list of comparisons between the CoD games please? I'm not familiar with the series but would like to learn more about it and the changes that have been made over the years.
see
>>268465932
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>>268471556
I think it's really just the people.
Back then, everyone was like "Yeah, one additional instalment of my favourite video game franchise! Wicked!"
The again, maybe the general hostility towards franchises with more than three games to them is just a prevalent phenomenon in the social ecosystems I partake in.
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>>268472045
>both regions
Kanto was shit and you know it.
RS was ok,but Emerald blew them outta the water.
Same with Plat and DP.
BW and BW2 are great games,try them.
XY is pretty good with all of the new shit to EV Training and Megas.
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>>268471734
>take out the story in a story driven game.

I only got MW3 for the campaign because I wanted to find out what happened after MW2's ending. Same with BO1 and 2. Also zombies is GOAT. CoD has just as much as innovation as Pokemon, but pokebabbies dont wanna own up to the fact that their games are just as casual.
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>>268472229
>X and Y are probably the worst Pokemon games ever made
Why?
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>>268472215
double battles, forme changes (deoxys), abilities, natures, contests, trumpets meme
unless he really fucking hates trumpets i don't see the problem
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>>268472229
I bought a 3DS for that
What a fool I was
I had to wait so long for a good game like Kirby and Shovel Knight
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>>268471578
What are you talking about? RSE had day/night, it just wasn't visible. By clubhouse I'm going to assume you mean secret bases, and the reason why that, the Underground, whatever was unique to Unova and trainer customization won't be in any other region is because
>"It's really meant to give unique traits of personalities to the different regions. So with the secret bases, for example, they're really popular in the Hoenn region," Masuda says.
It's bullshit, I know, but I'm guessing they're doing that so the games don't all feel exactly the same. I'm not too sure why they added Pokemon following you in HGSS in the first place as that was unique to Yellow before, but whatever. And what do you mean gen 6 removed move tutors? There are bound to be move tutors in ORAS and Z/XY2. Move tutors have never been in the games that start new generations, always the second version and remakes.
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>>268472045
>both regions

Doesn't matter when they're both shit, and put together, they're still smaller than any of the later regions.

They should have fleshed Johto out more instead of trying to cram Kanto on the cart.
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>>268472562
too easy, zero postgame
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>>268472045
>Best Singleplayer
Black 2\White 2 for me

>Best Online
Platinum. No Weather or priority shit
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>>268472045
>CoD4 lacked good single player
wut
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>>268472429
>Kanto was shit and you know it.
Kanto was all bonus content, it didn't matter if it was almost completely deserted, the only point of traveling to Kanto was defeating the old gym leaders and Red. Seeing your old avatar being transformed into a ugely successful trainer, challenging him and defeating it was some legit mind blowing shit.
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>>268472229
That's not Diamond\Pearl
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>>268470595
>>268470595
>Still, it's a bad business practice.
why?
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>>268472814
i love dis meem xD
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>>268470384
>New guns
>Only 1 or 2 ARs and SMGs are useful
>New perks
>Only the ones that hide your presence and make you faster are worth shit
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>>268464470
Because Pokemon does change, it just changes for the worse every time, so the only people who even bother anymore have shitty taste.
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>>268472553
Then where are the changes?
Story driven games change too, you know.
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>>268470212
Maybe.
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>>268472045
GSC was only Pokemon's highest point because the kids who played RBY didn't grow out of it yet and it was still popular. That's pretty much it.
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>>268472215
Introduced EV values.
If there was one thing that fucking pissed me off, it was that. Why the fuck should training my pokemon against certain low level ones count towards a hidden stat, that is near impossible to figure out, outside Natures.
Removal of Day/Night cycle.
Sure it had 'time' events, but they burnt out after 120-ish hours of playing.
I enjoyed Fire Red and Leaf Green more.
It also had more post-E4 content.
>inb4 Battle Frontier.
Not to fun, great for cloning pokemon but thats about it.
>>268472429
Not really, being able to go to the original region is what made the game great. It made it a SEQUEL, due to it actually having a timeline.
Emerald was a step in the right direction.
I'll take your word for BW/XY. Megas imo didn't seem fully useful. I would like alot more.
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>>268472821
Imagine if there were 3 Dragon Quest 5 versions where your wife was predetermined
>>268472894
That's pretty comparable to the smogon meta
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>>268472778
>defeating the old gym leaders

They're so fucking easy that it doesn't even matter.

None of them have a single Pokemon over level 50, allowing you to easily steamroll them.
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>>268472702
>Too easy
Did you leave the EXP.Share on?
>Zero Postgame
Looker Quest
Hunting for Mega stones
Battle Maison
Mewtwo and Birds
Prepping for Online

>>268472778
And the bonus content was terrible.
>No dungeons
>Trainer levels was in the 30's
>Gym leaders was in the 40's with the exception of Blue
>Absolutely nothing to do in Kanto
>Implying Red was a tough trainer with his shitty team.
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>>268472229
God damn it, so much fucking potential.
WASTED.
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>>268472821
You're fucking over your customers.
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>>268465286

Even though OP is retarded it doesn't mean the thread should get reported, it's not breaking any rules.
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>>268464470
Because new pokemon and different levels/combinations make a bigger difference than military shooter guns. One is also "mature" while the other is made for kids.
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>>268472892
>Everything to combat and moving was slow as shit
>Forgettable as fuck legendaries
>Unnecessary evolutions to pokemon like Magmar and Tangela
>Worst starters next to B/W
At least the music was good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIpIHtFhQI
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>>268472702
Wait until XY2. There's no post-E4 content in the starting gen games.
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>>268472984
Locations, setting, motivations, characters, and even adding fucking choice to the narrative in BO2.

BO2 had gameplay innovation as well. It had those TBS strike missions which nobody liked. Doing those affected the outcome of the story and all in all BO2 had more choice than Mass Effect but nobody cares because I'm the only in this thread that plays for CoD for other reasons than multiplayer
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>>268473072
thanks, but that no mayxshauna
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>>268472718
Play it on Veteran buddy.
>>268473139
Not being able to transfer Pokemon from the GBC to GBA games.
I enjoyed R/S/E yeah, but it wasn't as good as the previous.
I did like base building though.
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>>268473317

>fucking over your customers
>bad business practices

it is pretty much the best business practice considering every successful company in the world does it.
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>>268473167
No one on /vp/ takes Smogon seriously.
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>>268473167
>That's pretty comparable to the smogon meta
No. You have way more choice in every tier (even in UBERS)
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>>268473184
>Looker Quest
Boring easy as fuck anime shit
>hunting for mega stones
are you serious
looking for items is what you consider a post game? Even then it takes fucking 20 minutes
>Battle Maison
barebones Battle Frontier
though I will commend them on the AI at times
>mewtwo and the birds
legendary hunting is in every game, this game has had the least in a while
>Prepping for online
also in every game
but I will commend them for introducing Super Training and Horde Flushing
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>>268472778
>Seeing your old avatar being transformed into a ugely successful trainer
He was up in a goddamn mountain by himself. I don't know about you but that makes him sound like a failure to me.
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>>268473151
1st off, EV Values was with us from the beginning in RBY. You're thinking of IVs which was in 1st gen as well.
For Kanto, see>>268473172and>>268473184
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>>268473459
Oh boy, now the enemies have aimbot and instant reaction to everything!
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>>268473151
Fire Red and Leaf Green had all that same shit though
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>>268473151
EV values were a very good idea, since they allow you to gear your Pokemon towards a specific style. They just shouldn't have made them some secret thing that you only find out about via the internet, but that isn't the case anymore anyway.
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>>268473317

How exactly is requiring players to interact with each other fucking them over?

Pokemon is a community-driven game. Without the social elements, I guarantee that it wouldn't have lasted as long as it has.
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>>268473485
>Implying
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>>268464470
cause "le 90's kids xDD" are the ones who spout the most shit on the internet, and they love pokyman

COD aims to more mature audience but it ends up being bought it by kids
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>>268473184
Red was 1000x harder than anything in X&Y are you serious, if you went straight to him without extra training you would probably lose
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>>268473459
I dont understand how playing it on Veteran changes things? CoD is straight up bullshit on veteran, but the action movie narrative and cinematics of CoD 4 were really well executed.
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>>268473151
Evs existed in GSC too. And they don't really affect playing through the main game.
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>>268473534
SO XY do have postgame, it's just not as big.
Wait for ORAS and the sequels or Remake for more Kalos Postgame.

Besides that, XY was pretty damn good.
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>>268473151
FRLG didn't have day/night (probably because the originals didn't), but RSE did. That's why you had to transfer Eevee over to one of them if you wanted Espeon or Umbreon.
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Ways to make Pokemon singleplayer better
>Give ai better pokemon and movesets
>Let exp share stay in, but reduce the amount of exp it shares
>Get rid of HMs
What else?
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>>268473367
>Worst starters
>Not gen 2 and gen 5
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cause their fanbase is bigger and cancerous
you dont agree? well, then tell me why moot created a whole board for those obseced manchilds?

Pokemon is MLP of gaming
I tried to play the first one, fucking easy cake, then I moved like a normal person would
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>>268473193
>sky battles
>pokemon riding
>gym leaders and elite 4 still only have 3-4 pokemon
>that awful team flare story
>that boring anime inspired rival shit
>that handholding
>no move tutors
how did they fuck up so badly
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>>268473151
>Introduced EV values.

EVs have existed since Red and Blue.

All RSE did was introduce a limit.

Previously, you could max out all of your stats.

RSE just imposed a 510 EV limit.
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>>268473640
I went on /vp/ and they would shit on smogon for every little thing. Even if once in a blue moon they banned a reasonable move like swagger.
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>>268473686
>Red was 1000x harder than anything in X&Y are you serious
He was only harder because you were a kid. Try fighting him now. Shit's easy, just like all other NPCs in the game.
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>>268473901
>Gen 2
>Mother fucking Totodile and Cyndaquil
Chikorita can eat shit though.
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>>268473686
>Red
>All of his Pokemon have nothing but STAB
>Except for Espeon's Mud Slap and Blastoise's Blizzard
>Implying this fucker is hard
Maybe if you was bad.
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>>268473837
>XY was pretty damn good.
How?
What was pretty good about it?
Sky battles?
Riding pokemon?
Gym leaders STILL only carrying 3 pokemon
No pokemon that needed megas actually got it?
Team Flare?
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>>268473870
>Receive the old exp share normally
>The new exp share is a post game item
>get rid of HMs
>Make a hard mode where grinding doesn't help at all (Trainers level up with you)
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>>268473367
>God Pokemon, Demon Pokemon and Pokemon that control space and time are more forgettable than chicken-wing fire dragon thing with a small head or a fire dog
Stop.
>Torterra , Empoleon and Infernape worse than Meganium
Stop now.
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>>268473962
>no move tutors
>>268472667
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>>268473686
Are you kidding me?
The fucking trainer's in the battle maison shit all over Red's garbage ass team.
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>>268473686
>Red was 1000x harder than anything in X&Y

LOLNO

Red's team is shit. He's only hard if you're underleveled.
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>>268473978
Things changed. And why would anyone care, really? If you don't want to follow fan made rules you don't have to.
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>>268464470
But people always complain that pokemans isn't like Gen 1 and 2?
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>>268471727
insulting nintendo is "starting a flamewar" if people had legit complaints it'd be fine but lately the new meme is "nintendo hate thread" and when people call out your bullshit you go "ITS OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT! NINTENDOGAF"
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>>268465183
that's the equivalent of new pokemon/ moves/ areas to explore

none of that is mechanical
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>>268474162
I think he was talking about legendaries like the three spirits and Cresselia. Also shit like Phione.
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>>268474117
Great Starters, better than BW's
450 Pokemon in it.
Most of Kalos Pokemon are cool
Made EV training a fucking breeze thanks to EXP.Share+Horde Battles
Megas helped many Pokemon and ORAS looks to be continuing that trend.
Inverse Battle
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>>268473686

Red is piss easy, Pokemon in general is piss easy outside of ROM hacks and Hax Frontier nonsense.

I beat him multiple times with a 6 man team of mid 50's.
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>>268464470
you can tell which pokemon game you're looking at with a glance
you can't do the same for CoD
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>>268474362
What the fuck where they even thinking
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>>268474530
But you aren't
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>>268474362
I can see how the spirits could be forgettable.
What's wrong with Phione, though?
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>>268474530
You forgot someone
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>>268473184
>>Implying Red was a tough trainer with his shitty team.
Didn't Red manages to get a uber-team at some point in Crystal?

And there's also night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass that made gen 1 feel like legit rock paper scissors in comparison, all that in just the span of a few years.
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>>268474362
Cresselia and Darkrai were great. Phione isn't really a legendary, it's just...a thing. I don't really understand why it exists, but classing as a legendary seems a bit much.
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>>268473167
>Imagine if there were 3 Dragon Quest 5 versions where your wife was predetermined
that'd suck but every game in a pair has all it's content. the point, even from red and blue, is socialization
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>>268474785
>Loses argument, implies Anons are the same person.
kek
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>>268474785
This is actually a bait thread.
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>>268474530
Not saying that XY are the best in the series, just pretty good games.

Personally, I don't really like HGSS for still having that terrible level curve and hardly any Johto Pokemon to get. The Gym leaders are still shit for many don't have any Johto Pokemon. The Starters are my 2nd least favs as well after BW's.

Emerald and BW2 are pretty good and I still play them to this day.
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>>268474730
>night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass

and they were all implemented like shit, and took almost 8 years to actually see their potential.

GSC is the DMC2 of the Pokemon franchise and it's only "critically acclaimed" because of Nostalgia Goggles.
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>>268474785
>Implying I don't play western games
I was playing Rock Band 3 5 minutes ago
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>>268474785
Why are you surprised that Pokemon fans are using anime and Japanese game images? People who like Japanese games tend to stick with Japanese games, people who like western games stick with western comics and games.
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>>268474785
Anon pls, everybody knows /v/ is for shitposting.
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>>268470260
5>4>3>6>2>1
Crystal was my first Pokemon game, yet I really enjoyed B2/W2
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>>268468330
If your 4 year old niece can beat you at pokemon than the problem is with you, not the game.
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>>268474957
They're implying that the overwhelming majority of shitposters are weebs.
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>>268474730
>Didn't Red manages to get a uber-team at some point in Crystal?
His team is still the same in it.

>And there's also night/day cycles, breeding, holdable items, STAB, 2x weaknesses, weird meta moves like future sight, perish song and baton pass that made gen 1 feel like legit rock paper scissors in comparison, all that in just the span of a few years.
Day cycles and Hold Items along with Breeding are the only worthy additions.Weather and BP didn't kick off until later gens and no one use Future Sight.

STAB and 2X weakness was with us from RBY.
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>>268474785
i'm >>268467053
and i never stated that i was anti cod
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>tfw your favorite Pokemon games, region, and music were Diamond, Pearl and Platinum
>the only thing people say about them were "they're too slow," even though Platinum fixed this.
>people ignore them for HGSS
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Their effect on the games industry.

Everyone wants the CoD audience, but with the exception of Youkai Watch, new Pokemon clones died out a few years after Red/Blue.
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>>268475352
Platinum is fucking great. Don't let those faggots get to you.
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>>268475193
someone should make a banner with your post
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>>268475187
?this retarded assumption that everyone only likes one thing.

fuck you. posting anime images doesnt mean you hate western and vice versa. everyone goes apeshit and goes "ANIMU PICTURE OPINION INVALID"
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>>268475028
What does it matter if feautres were improved on later releases? There was an ocean of improvements between gen 1 and 2. It's only not outstanding in retrospect, but that's not being exactly fair, is it?
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>>268474019
>>268474087
>>268474217
>>268474246


Red was harder in HG/SS than anything in X&Y too
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>>268475274
No, I'm implying the only people on /v/ who hate CoD are weebs. I've never seen any thread against good games like CoD and Bioshock Infinite that aren't spammed with girly weeb shit.
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>>268475352
Platinum is what every pokemon game should be.
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>>268475352
What? I hear lots of accolades for BW2 and Platinum as the best games, with HGSS picking up the third just for its shitty level scaling.
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>>268475747

Because More=/=Better

GSC is basically handing you a bunch of new toys, but most of the toys are missing parts or don't even work like they are suppose to.

I'd much prefer 3 useful addition improvements than 20 broken and shoddy additions.
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>>268475187
What?
I like japanse games but of course I like western games too.
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>>268475274
>posting anime pictures makes you a weeb

so my posting this means i have a doll fetish, by your retarded logic
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>>268475887
No he wasn't, the super versions of battles in the Maison for X/Y actually require you to think about your moves since you'd get fucked at a moments notice.
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Because COD is shit.
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>>268476068
Only weebs post anime pics seriously though
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>>268476125
Maison is artificial difficulty though.
>MISSED
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>YOU GOT FROZEN
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>>268476068
Are people who are buying sex dolls also havin a doll fetish?
If so, do people who own dakimakura have a pillow fetish?
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>>268476125
Nah X&Y is fucking baby shit where gym leaders have 2 pokemon, they're bad games get over it
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>>268475887
>Pikachu STILL can't do shit against Ground Pokemon
>Venusaur STILL having nothing but STAB
>Starters having Elemental Beams
>Blastoise having Flash Cannon and Focus Blast when Fighting>Steel
>Snorlax having Shadow Ball when it have Crunch and fucking Giga Impact
Only good thing is 3 Pokemon having Blizzard for Hail.

Red is overrated as fuck.
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>>268476215
please be joking
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>>268475352
Nigga I loved DPP
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>>268476013
>don't even work like they are suppose to.
But they worked like they were supposed to. They just got even better later on.
I don't get the DMC2 comparison either, that game was a stepdown in many ways compared to the first game, weheras G/S/C is all improvements wherever you looked. Hell, even the stupid exp bar was a big stepup.

Again, I don't think you are being fair.
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>>268464470
>its alright when capcom does it
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>>268464470
Same shit, no one cares they both suck,
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>>268476456
I'm not joking you fucking homo, I even watch some anime myself but I don't post faggy anime pics and only weebs/otaku shits do this
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>>268475887
Are you bad at Pokemon or something? If you understand the basic mechanics of the game he's really easy unless you're underlevelled, in which case anything can be hard.
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If you're over the age of 25 and still playing Pokemon, you're a fucking loser.
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What's the difference between IVs and EVs?
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>>268476340
Johto didn't have it better either
>A Pidgey and a Pidgeotto
>A Scyther,Kakuna,and Metapod
>Clefairy
>2 Gastly,A Haunter and A Gengar
>Primeape and Poliwrath...No Heracross or Hitmontop
>2 Magnemites and Steelix
>Seel,Dewgong,and Piloswine
>3 Dragonairs and Kingdra.
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>>268476302
by /v/ logic, yes. just like i know you're a pedo and a weeb
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>>268476215
>>268474785
>>268475274
>>268475925
>>268476215
>>268476643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpaYTSdmWfY

This is you.
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>>268476657
Well, considering you can beat the Elite 4 at like level 50, and Kanto gym leaders have Pokemon between 50 and 60 and Red's average pokemon level is like 75 and leveling on HG/SS is extremely tedious, then yeah, he's pretty overleveled.
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>>268476768
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Effort_values
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values
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>>268476215
Is there something wrong with saving an image because you like how the reaction is shown in it? That's exactly the point in reaction images, to show how you're feeling. If its exaggerated in an anime screencap and you post it because it works with your post, that doesn't make you a weeb at all.
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>>268476768
One your poke is born with and the other is acquired depending on which opponent pokes you level up your own poke with.
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>>268476768
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>>268476937

>50

try 35
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>>268476657
His pokemon are all in the 80s, If you go straight there after your done with things he will kick your shit
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>>268477035
>weeb posts one smug anime pic
>follows up every other response with more smug anime pics
>more anime pics..

Sure whatever you say
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>>268476768
IVs never change and are generated with the Pokemon, there's values that range from 0 to 31 for each stat, representing one extra stat point each by Lv100. Yes, your Pokemon can have shit genes.

EVs are points you can dump into different stats, the cap for each Pokemon is enough to max out two stats. What EVs you get are determined by the Pokemon you knock out, and you always get them if you get any kind of exp until you hit the cap.

Both have been a staple of Pokemon stats since Gen 3, and Gamefreak has been more open about them overtime.
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>>268477148
By the time you're done with Kanto, your Pokemon should be in the 60's with Hold Items and Moves from TMs.

Red is shit.
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>>268477119
Holy shit thanks, that's real helpful.
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The new COD looks pretty cool
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>>268476768
Don't do it anon. You will never look at pokemon the same again.
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>>268477148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-Unj6xFYk
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>>268476768
IVs are decided when you catch a pokemon/hatch it and stay the same no matter what, the only way to get good ones is to find good ones and breed them with other good ones while holding specific items to influence what IVs go where.

EVs are gotten by fighting other pokemon, each pokemon has a certain amount of EVs in certain stats that you get from defeating it. They can be easily decided, as you can just find and battle that one pokemon with the EVs for that specific stat
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>>268477126
I guess. If you only have a main party, your party will average at 50 by the Elite Four though.
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>>268476862
Oooh. Okay!
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>people shitting on Gold and Silver
By your logic of why it's shit does that mean X and Y are worse because it's a more recent addition and added a lot less features compared to Gold and Silver despite a botched region
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>>268464594
The ironic thing is Cawadooty's intended userbase are 20-something dudebros, while Pokemon's intended userbase are little kids, while Cawadooty's actual userbase are little kids, and Pokemon's are autistic 20-somethings.
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>>268465462
Giving them too much of a chance. I dropped the series at B&W2 and never looked back.
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>>268477945
Black2 and White 2 are the best games made to date though
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>>268477730
Both GSC and XY gave us great additions for the series.

Problem is that GSC's level curve is shit,Gym leaders are shit for having more Kanto pokemon than Johto Pokemon(Not like XY's are good however...)And XY have better selection of Pokemon,

I just have more fun with XY than GSC/HGSS.
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>>268477824
Older players did get a shoutout on HG/SS though. Game Freak definitely has them in mind for every new entry.
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>>268477508
Which was way better than anything in X&Y, why are pokefags so fucking delusional?
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>>268478293

Too bad it wasn't better than anything in BW2
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>>268478239
I had more fun in GSC than I did in HGSS
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>>268478239
Well no I mean

Two bland empty unfinished regions (Kalos and Johto)

Johto introduced breeding, gender, Move tutor, pokerus, a post game battle tower

X and Y introduced

Megas, fairy

Both of them don't use their respective regional pokemon, etc.

X and Y is a relatively new game you'd think they wouldn't have these issues rifht?
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>>268478621
Ok? I don't see how the remake is worse than the orginal when HGSS fixed a lot of things in GSC.
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>>268478239
To be honest, at least 100 hours of the 200+ hours of game time in GSC were spent assembling teams for Stadium 2, but still.
After GSC, RBY became literally unplayable to me. That game was so broken and the battles themselves were so barebones it's not funny.
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>>268470121
I still dislike Gen 4(Specifically Diamond and Pearl, not Platinum) the most. X and Y had some good ideas(Mega Evolutions, clothes customization, Battle Chateau, Super Training) but it dropped the ball hard after you unlock the full Lumiose City. Everything after that is like a blur of no fun at all and areas being really short. Hell, the reasons they railroad you at times were completely idiotic.
>Lass just stops you from going to Route 22 until you pass a part of the story because "The Pokemon ahead are too strong for you" when you talk to her with level 70+ Pokemon.
>Can't go to parts of Lumiose City before story reasons because "There's a blackout" even though it doesn't matter in the slightest and there's a TV screen on the skyscraper right behind the guy showing Pikachu ads as he tells you that.
These are the two bits that stick out in my mind the most. You could even see who the big bad was the instant he appeared on screen, and when he turns evil and everyone goes "WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS EVIL" was just silly.
The post-game was a bit lacking too. Friend Safari is all well and good, and hunting for Mega Stones was alright, but the Legendary Bird event required you to encounter the damn thing like ten times, and Mewtwo and Zygarde just wait for you in short dungeons so that's no trouble at all.
My biggest problem was not being able to buy Mega Stones. Yeah, I'll just give my friend my exclusive stone that I can't ever get again without starting a new game.
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>>268479002
It's the atmosphere and feeling of starting the game and part nostalgia as well.

the only game that captures that feeling for me is Black, White, Gen 4 and black2 white2
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>>268478876

You also gotta remember that Gamefreak is an incompetent company.

Pokemon could be so much better if Gamefreak wasn't in charge of the main series.
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>>268478876
>Megas, fairy
And a better way to EV Train with Horde training.
Steel take neutral damage from Dark and Ghost.
Battle Maison
Friend Safari.
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>>268479097
>Yeah, I'll just give my friend my exclusive stone that I can't ever get again without starting a new game.
>not being a bro
Shame on you, anon.
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Anyone else hate the idea of EVs and IVs in the first place? I know EVs/IVs have always existed since the beginning but the fact that you have to spend a gorrilion hours oneshotting hordes of shitmons and putting a piece of cardboard in your analog stick to breed pokemon like an autist really discourages me from playing online. Like fuck I just beat the game but I can't even play multiplayer without getting cut a new asshole. It doesn't take any skill to do this, it's just tedious and makes you have to do a shit ton of research if you want to even consider playing the meta.
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>>268479002
I liked it when I first played it, but whevnever I choose which to replay I absolutely dread trying to replay HGSS but lookf orward to replaying GSC.
I compare the feeling to that Shiny Gold hack, sure it remade the game, but it added some stuff that I don't always want to deal with.
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nostalgia
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>>268479360
I'm a hoarder in games. I'll give him Pokemon I can freely catch from my version, but no way is he getting my exclusive rocks.
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>>268479413
Just get good.
Despite all of X and Y's faults, it makes it incredibly easy to do that shit.
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>>268479141
Nostalgia can cloud a person's eyes from a game's many faults you know?
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>>268479413
EVs I can live with. IVs however are much more frustrating, especially when it comes to species you can't breed

I'm pretty sure there could be a better way of handling stat variation and Hidden Power's type.
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>>268479413
five minutes to breed one pokémon (after you get all set up and you will never have to set up ever again)
30 minutes to make one team.
Is that too much time?
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>>268479413
IVs are dumb and I've always been 100% okay with their removal.
EVs are fine, I'd be totally okay with making them even easier, though. Maybe use that chart for just sliding the stats up or down as you see fit; for specific numbers, maybe they could have manual number input as well. EVs are cool because customizing them lets you do different things; IVs are pretty much always gonna wanna be maxed out unless you're in Trick Room, have a Hidden Power (could have its system changed) or want to minimize confusion/Foul Play damage. Small sacrifices for a bigger return, I think.
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>>268479413

IV's i'm fine with. finding a prime specimen is always a treat. it should be less though, perhaps the max IV is 16 instead of 31

EV i'm fine with as well, but needs to be done differently then 'kill X of Y'
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>>268479459
What new things in HGSS that you don't like?
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>all of these people saying Pokemon isn't a rehash series
Jesus Christ, I like pokemon too, but at least I can admit it's almost as bad as CoD.
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>>268464470
You're fucking retarded. Pokemon is always the same concept, because god forbid they created a totally different game messing up what's already good. They add new features all the time. Call of Duty just adds new maps and guns.
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>>268479778
>>268468187
Please show me what changes COD got
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>>268479342
Using your logic then Day care breeder improvement should be one for Gold and Silver.

Battle Maison is a worse one off battle tower clone.

X and Y is painfully mediocre.
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