Reminder that if you don't buy a Wii U just to play Bayonetta 2, you don't care about gameplay. You might as well be a casual.
Just a reminder Kamiya thinks your internet war is retarded
No, her voice is awful and everything is just so hamfisted.
I'd rather go fap to a black lilith VN than stare shitty attempts at sexuality during my fighting games.
Gonna buy Bayo 2 though
>Everything about Bayonetta's design, mechanics and characterization is created specifically for the sexual pleasure of straight male gamers.
I think you guys need to help me here, but I've got no clue on how to derive sexual pleasure from a game's mechanics.
>It's okay when nintendo does it.
The other way around, it's only NOT OKAY when nintendo does it. Nintendo can't be allowed to get a game like Bayonetta, they should continue to only publish Mario and Zelda games so that people can continue the shitposting routine of "nintendo only makes zelda and mario, kiddy, etc, etc". Nintendo having Bayonetta is unfair!
I'm buying a Wii U for Bayo2/W101, and a PS4 for Bloodborne. I also just got a Playstation TV for Persona 4G
and Zero Escape 2.
Currently replaying through Bayo on 360 to prepare for 2. Hadn't played since 2010. I'm at Jeanne 3 right now. Damn she's hard. Well, back to it.
She's cute. I want to tell her I'm looking forward to her game but I don't want to oppress her with my privilege.
I love how Anita doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about.
>flagrant use of the male gaze
"male gaze" isn't something you use.
The male gaze is just the natural occurence of men looking at women.
Fuck me for finding women attractive, right Anita?
Not really. She's just a stylized action chick. Real pro-women feminists would look past the physical portrayal and be happy of the fact that the protagonist of a good game is a female. Knee-jerk reactionists are just trying to get page views; it's a shame so many people have the wrong idea about what feminism is
I got a Wii U for TW101 and Bayo 2, I'll get a PS4 for Bloodborne and Uncharted 4, and an Xbone for D4, Scalebound and Quantum Break.
>Gazing at stuff is bad
Seriously, fucking why? Why not just close your eyes and imagine something if a visual medium is that terrible for you? I feel people understand that in visual mediums, you have to see something. Not be told or implied something.
Gamergate didn't ruin /v/. It kept to a single thread, so I didn't mind it (nor did I read or post in it). moot ruined it because his gawker employee girlfriend has him on a leash.
Bayo 2 is gonna be the game of the year regardless of what click baiting journalists say
That would be why not a single post you quoted mentioned gamergate and is instead just /v/ being mad at Antia's bullshit.
Like it was for YEARS before gamergate started.
I don't know if you could call me GG since I haven't done anything for the movement at all though I agree that journalism is shit and corrupt. But it has always being that way.
I don't find her something to fap to but I kinda like the ridiculous design. Rather than sexy she's just overly feminine to the point of parody and is just a really capable character. Basically she's the strong independent womyn who needs no man but feminists still hate her because they're idiots.
astronomically shit taste from /v/ as is expected.
if you don't find long legs, massive butt, huge boobs, that voice and those glasses sexy you are a complete and utter bum-pirate.
and I say that as a guy whose waifu is Armin.
what the fuck do you all fap to then
If in the US, you can claim it's a parody and be fine.
He's not really shitting on it so to speak (gave it 7.5/10 iirc, which is a good score), but his only complaints are retarded MUH OBJECTIFIED SEXUALIMISATIONISM MALE GAZE shit.
So it's not the fact that they had a creepy fixation on feminists that was offensive, it was being called a gamersgater because of it?
As a girl I never got this train of thought, yeah she's sexualized but the males in video games tend to be ridiculously buff.
I don't get it, just play the game and stop complaining, at least she's a powerful female lead. Lots of games make women strong
It's hard, it's really hard to shitpost on WiiU threads because they are so rare and in between.
Thre really aint to much to talk about.
Anyway, now that we finished Bayoo2, what should we do?
What is the next big waiting game?
>creepy fixation on feminists
We are just pointing and laughing at stupid people, like we always do here.
Again, stop chasing the demons inside your mind.
Fuck, only 4 days left. I am so fucking excited to play this GOTY
Cuhrazy games are my favorite but I don't have the disposable income to buy a Will U. If I did I so fucking would buy one for Bayo 2. I so fucking would...
>you post every tweet
lol hyerbole much?
I have this thing that I can't fap to characters I respect. Bayonetta falls into that category. She's still hot, though her disproportionate head/body/leg ratio really rustles my artist jimmies.
>She's still hot, though her disproportionate head/body/leg ratio really rustles my artist jimmies.
as a fellow artfag you're being silly.
how can you be an artist yourself and then get annoyed by a strong stylised design.
unless you traditional art or realism as a speciality in which cause I'd understand.
>Got Friday and Sat off
>Took a vacation day on Sunday
>Three straight days of Bayo 2
>Shop I pick up games from is open until 1am everyday.
It's actually Male Gaze theory. Like they actually think it's a theory not even hypothesis or conjecture.
Google it and you find definitions like it's when "Female characters are sexualized, and the camera may zero in on female body parts considered sexual."
>Real pro-women feminists would look past the physical portrayal and be happy of the fact that the protagonist of a good game is a female.
that's a pretty dumb argument. what about lara croft which feminists have been complaining about since she existed? or lolipop chainsaw?
feminists don't just care about women being in games, they care about what the women then do in the games.
The old 70s-80s intepretation is that the female gaze relied upon the existence of the male gaze to exist. You have to be desired as an object and then intend with your gaze to be the object of the male gaze, so the female gaze is always in response to a male looking.
Of course, this is outdated as fuck with the advent of trangendered/intersex movies and texts, but people still rely upon it because it's easy to pidgeonhole media with male protagonists (aka most media) as the enactor of everything.
hmm proportions are obviously the foundation of learning to draw and figure drawing is one of the basics of being a good artist.
but it sounds like he took it a bit too far if you find even the most standard of stylised designs annoying.
>ugly as HELL hairy skin cancer mole
How to ruin a character: give her a mole.
> first print edition is Europe exclusive
> tfw I didn't buy a first print edition in time
> they'll be worth $500 soon
> living in burger land
>bitches about sexulization of girlies in vidya
>first thing she did with kickstarter money was get plastic surgery to appear more attractive and feminine
>that purple screen
>all enemies slow down
Son, you must be a faggot.
So Women aren't allowed to sexual for their own sake? Isn't that slut-shaming and thus anti-Feminist?
There's another 100+ hours for you Jimmy
Actually, the rumor is that the first thing she did was go out and buy herself a pair of thousand-dollar shoes. Maybe hundred-dollar shoes; either way, they were expensive and the purchase was made after the fact.
>everything about that game is a straight male fantasy
And Sims are the game where everything is about girl fantasies ...
So what ??
Since when fufilling fantasies trough game is a bad thing ??
Nope. Because then it becomes a power fantasy.
> Stare at sexy men being macho
> You want to be them
> Stare at sexy women being feminine
> You want to fuck and / or oppress them
bayonetta raised herself. she became who she is today because she taught her younger self to be strong.
also survived being stabbed because bayo put a ribbon around her pocket watch and hung it around her neck.
>hunting games are shit
>didn't find returns all that wow so not really hyped for that, it's the sort of game I'd get if there was nothing else interesting on the sys-oh wait
>cautious about it since I don't really like the pad as a controller
so that's 4 maybe 5 games if I get W101 and I tend to demand at least 7 must have games when buying a system.
great generalization m8, you'd sure win the logical fallacy award of this thread.
it is slut shamey, yes
anita just hasn't played bayonetta and it shows by judging a book by its cover.
She's not the queen of femenists like al sharpton isn't the president of black people, and so she says a lot of dumb non-feminist shit all the time
I dont even have a wii2 but I genuinely like the idea of buying this game just to get its sales up and piss off that raging mega cunt sarkeesian. Maybe ill buy B2 for a nintenbro and theyll buy me a xboner game.
>they don't realize I want to
no. she's a game character. These sexists should have more respect. By sexists I mean feminists.
A hundred for decent shoes is normal price where I'm from. I just wonder why the new face if not to enhance her own beauty. I don't think she is as separated from sexism as she thinks.
TF is a good deal better than Returns.
As for the gamepad as a controller? It's pretty comfy in my opinion, but that's just an opinion. If you're concerned about having to draw out the shapes on the touchscreen, you can do it with the right joystick, which is how you should do it anyways.
Also there are some pretty good 3rd party games like Shovel Knight worth checking out.
NOTHING caters to lesbians
As far as the mainstream is concerned they don't exist
They certainly aren't being considered as a target audience
You're just trying to muddy up the argument with 'b-but some women like the male gaze stuff! Bayonetta was designed by a girl!' As if that cancels out all the deserved complaints from women who are tired of the constant lack of non-sexualized female characters to play as
(which DO exist, don't whip out REMEMBER ME or the dragon's crown elf and go hurr your argument is now invalid, the point is that unless your game is directed by kojima men have countless options to play as non-objectified dude characters whereas through sheer numbers women have far less options in general)
I was on the edge on buying this game. Then I saw this lady talk about how discriminating and sexualised it is. And she is right and decided right then I am going to buy this game and have a huge wank over it
but like black people and al sharpton, they let it get way out of hand by letting a conniving, mean spirited figurehead talk for them by exploiting there cause for profits. When a white male stands up talks for white people and says "oh wow things are so tough for us and unfair" we have the good decency to call him a fascist nazi and to GTFO.
The same just isnt true for the collective minorities and women. most of them revel in the blatant sympathy/power grab.
here is the kicker, the girl developer behind the game thought bayonetta is a strong woman character and likes her
so isnt bashing the game for being overly sexual and misogynistic just bashing female game developers
This is a microcosm of the state of /v/, I hate games but I hate SJWs more so I'm going to buy games I never would have touched if they didn't complain about said games just to spite them
what's not to like ??
No it isn't because women are not a hive mind. And it's some contrived shit that you're acting like since the lead artist is a girl that detaches all the other male involvement in the character's conception.
one woman (though there are no doubt more than just her, obviously) holding the opinion that bayonetta is a good role model does not delegitimize all the other women who don't hold that opinion because WOMEN ARE NOT A HIVE MIND and are allowed to disagree with eachother
Are you all ready for Anita's new video?! Hopefully she doesn't release it after 5 years since she's so busy receiving death threats.
I don't think minorities are responsible for the fucked up things activists do.
That's something I hope everyone can understand, whether you dislike feminists or sexist gamer males.
Seeing her so ass blasted was hilarious
Both of those characters are pretty solid female protagonists
>Lara is confident, intelligent, worldly and a badass
>Juliet is bubbly, kind, caring and makes up for what she lacks in book smarts with physical prowess and lateral thinking
Both are fantastic female protagonists- they're physical appearances should mean nothing.
you are right, but like how moderate muslims are criticized for not voicing their opinions enough against extremist Muslims, there is a clear issue with both the number of minorities vocalizing against forced victimization by their activist counterparts,and the media outlets which refuse to broadcast the voices of reasonably thinking, moderate, and educated women and black people. Because they make more money by like I said...cause for profit activists.
I think her design is fantastic and really appealing, but it's not something I find particularly sexy. Then again, everyone finds different things sexy, so there's bound to be at least a few folks out there who get all hot and bothered about her.
The way she says "so close!" and "almost!" when Witch Time dodging in the Bayo 2 demo certainly makes me feel that way, at least.
>they're physical appearances should mean nothing.
the problem for most of these people is not that they're attractive it's that they have sex appeal. the two are different. lara doesn't need massive boobs which is why places like kotaku like her current form so much.
>Sexually frustrated women get aroused by a game
>She's letting out her frustration by blaming the said game
>Not by getting laid with a sexy whore
She's like Dante or Snake. Girls think they're sexy, guys think they're badass, and the camera has a "female gaze", especially in MGS.
It's the same reason Metroid fans have an issue with ZSS: Their minds will not allow them to see an attractive woman as capable, even if she is overwhelmingly capable. Fuck.
When you do good and beat a Boss you're rewarded with a wicked weave sequence where her hair clothes fly off of her body and kill the enemy while she poses sexily?
At least that's how it worked when I played the first one
ow the edge.
anyway she's not as harmless as she is. She's been debunked millions of times by everyone but she still has a following including developers like Schaffer, people from Ubisoft, Naughty Dog leads
Her editor, Jon Mcintosh or whatever, said that Wicked Weaves are sexist in that they reward the player for getting high combos by showing more of her skin. Despite the fact you can get a WW really easily with PKP.
So a character can't have sex appeal? I agree that too much is one thing, but neither of those go too far
Bayonetta does, but that's because she's satire. I mean, it's one thing for creepy sexualization, where the game revolves entirely around said sexual elements, but a lot of games with sexy elements don't
Considering the new Tomb Raider is Uncharted, and bayonetta would still be fucking amazing to play if she was a guy, I think a lot of people refuse to look past the sexual elements ( or make them out to be much worse then they are) rather than think for two minutes
>DA MALE GAZE
>Lesbians can't enjoy bayonetta
>Gays can't enjoy the fashionista that is Bayonetta
>Blacks can't enjoy Bayonetta's big ass
>Asians can't enjoy Bayonetta despite being designed by them
>Straight men can't enjoy Bayonetta
>MFW liking Bayonetta is literally rape
>mad you can't contribute to youtube comments, possibly the lowest most literally degenerate form of human communication ever conceived
Just tweet at her or blog about it. It'll accomplish so much more than fucking youtube comments
first of all, I never even said anything REMOTELY close to that quite obvious conclusion you must have reached in your head by having an argument with me that I wasn't even aware of.
Second of all, you're getting completely beyond the point of the claim I responded to, which went like this:
>bashing the game for being overly sexual and misogynistic just bashing female game developers
>No it isn't
>When you criticize the artist intentions, you are criticizing the artist.
stay focused at the argument at hand. You said criticizing the game for dressing her up that way wasn't criticizing the creator of that content, which is hoo-ey.
>playing Bayonetta 2
>sister walks in
"Um, is that what you're playing now? *laughs*"
I think there's a certain fear of disagreeing with her, or at least the core of the message she's using. Most people DO want equal opportunity in the industry, and I suppose the perception is that by not agreeing with her, you're very easily labelled as a sexist.
The problem is, her videos are just accusations of sexism and misogyny, and they're not really doing anything to support women getting into the industry or any kind of positive change. It's just snark and negativity, which seems to be a particularly common thread in gaming media.
Well the third wave seems to hate her, but the second wave seem to really love her. Something to the extent that she owns her sexuality. She strikes a pose, kicks ass, and does what she wants and shares the same type of ego of someone like Dante and not letting anyone us tell them otherwise.
I dont tweet.
And i dont have a blog.
YT comment is the way to be seen and to be heard by many people.
Not that i give a fuck because for every her shitty video there are dozens of dedicated gamers calling her on her bullshit.
>wanna play with me ??
>caring about women taste in vidya
Come on man
>Most people DO want equal opportunity in the industry
I do ( for example i would like to see GTA with female protag or one of them like in GTA 5 ) but what Anita is doing is not about equality but female superiority .. just like evry feminazi today.
This actually gets me alittle holy fucking shit. You have to be a real stupid bitch to think i have time to get a boner well Bayonetta does a flip in 1/4 of a second well dodging and fighting hordes of fucks who want me dead. As well as any other combat mechanic that might make her look attractive in 1 frame or two. Like fuck this is some grade A stupid shit. To masturbate to Bayonetta combat you'd have to upload it then slow it down to the point of a halt.
So, can we all meet up at her next faux-hitler rally and just use our words and freedom of speech and start yelling irrelevant hack? No violence, no cursing, just free speech. I mean, its worked wonders for feminist.
People aren't going to agree with 'debunking' because it comes from types who would look for any reason to disagrees with and criticize Anita.
You're lumped in with people whose disdain for women far outstrips any disapproval of corruption or poor ethics, so nothing you say is seen with any legitimacy.
It's like. Trying to hold a reasonable debate with someone while waving around a burning cross and a GOD HATES FAGS sign. The hate purveyed by the side you chose drowns out any logic you might bring forth
So as a gay man I shouldn't get anything from this game at all, yet Bayonetta is one of my favourite games and one of my favourite character in vidya in general.
What the fuck is wrong with this woman? That statement closes down the debate, because to disagree must make you a straight white male or a straight white male sympathiser.
If your argument can't hold water without resorting to incitement you're shit out of luck and your views are wrong.
>2015 - 1
>buying a toaster to play a single game
Also metal gear characters were designed by guy who said "I design my characters sexy" - This was on point about raiden in MGS2 interview DVD.
When guys are designed to be sexy nobody cares, even if it is flat out said, same goes for snake, guy who designed snake said he designed him to be sexy, Vamp, absolutely, from his female origin to his male end product.
There is some double standards from "critics" when japanese devs blatantly design everything they design in sexy way. And there is nothing wrong with it, I especially like a character that is both sexy, and cool, be it male or female.
But this shit gets ignored and only female character's "woes" are seen by "critics"
Just the same he doesn't care what Journos think either. He's taking the stance of, "None of this effects me and I'm going to keep making the games I feel like making. All of you take your arguments else where and fuck off."
Also here is my favorite male character
NOT SEXUALIZED MALE POWER FANTASY
Because he's blissfully away from western "progressives". Japan only cares about Japan. If this SJW nonsense ever takes hold there, THEN we'll see Jap devs commenting on it.
Until then, gamergate may as well be happening on the moon as far as they're concerned.
So when are they going to give a video game a lower score for objectifying a man?
This. It only spilled over when butthurt mods were closing threads left and right. Other than that it was self-contained.
Of course, now it'll spring up anywhere it wants and beta cucks can't stop it.
I still am not sure who coined SJW or Social Justice Warrior. The SJW's themselves are to blame for two thirds of that because all they would talk is social justice this social justice that social justice everythang until someone just called them fucking fantasy warriors or something.
White knights are not same thing, they are just man cunts who think women can do no wrong and whiteknight them just for virtue of being the sex that can do no wrong. Or even in lighter cases just defending a girl if she gets even slight pressure like in server mic talk and guys go all "Hurr grl" etc.
SJW's on other hand are just insane people with insane idelogies. We call them that distinctively because they hold and fight for insane ideology they believe in themselves, not even fighting it for anyone. Heck it even is reverse that given some SJW's really think volunteering for teaching job in african village is self centered and self fulfilling which actually hurts the africans. The amount of projecting they can do to shit talk on actual help people they claim to help and protect is just mind boggling.
That is why we do not call them white knights, I personally just would call them insanity itself but that is just me.
>You said criticizing the game for dressing her up that way wasn't criticizing the creator of that content, which is hoo-ey.
That's not what I said.
>stay focused at the argument at hand.
My point is that the 'SJWs are the real misogynists, because they're criticizing bayonetta's female designer' argument is inherently flawed because it assumes having a woman on one side of the argument is all it takes to delegitimize the other side of the argument.
It's a cheap, easy debating stunt intended to stump rookie feminists with a conundrum of logic, assuming that the other side arbitrarily agrees with women and will fold when faced with the idea of women being present on opposed sides.
It's just a more articulate way to say 'shut up'.
I always thought Bayonetta was about as good a compromise as you can get.
I mean, yeah, she's ultra-hot, but she's also just among the strongest characters in video game history. And why is it so wrong that she's very sexual?
But what happens if the game sells as expected are better and I'm just happy for them since that prospect means we might get a third one or they might fund for a similar game?
the only difference is that when sharpton started he was actually fighting injustice and then when things got better just complained about nothing
Anita from day one was all about complaining about nothing.
That's a total bullshit strawman though.
GG fags can actually have a legit conversation and debate, because they have facts and logic backing up their points. Whereas the feminist MUST use dramatization and lies because they have no actual points.
The problem, anon, is that you see gender equality AS female superiority. You see it as weakening the man. You see women gaining all the advantages men have but keeping the ones they had before, not realizing that part of feminism is eliminating double standards like that, because your definition of feminism is a bunch of bitter castration-obsessed harpies complaining about a society that you think they already have the upper hand in.
>Lara doesn't need massive boobs
Nobody needs to have massive boobs. But different people have different cup sizes. Saying "SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BE SEXY" is just as stupid as saying "SHE NEEDS TO BE SEXY."
>buy games that SJWs hate
>companies realize which titles people are voting for via their wallets
>make these games
>SJWs continue to be irrelevant
>gaming continues as it always has
If we don't have idiots paying for games out of spite, companies might think that SJWs are actually making a major influence on games. Frankly, I think Bayo 2 looks pretty fun too so why not?
I said Patriarchy theory subscribing feminists to just seal off the insane part of the movement. Too bad they are also from year 2010 and onward the only visible, heard, seen and media exposed part of feminism. They even shoot down others as not true scotsmen and are just generally insane.
There is still patriarchy theory negative feminists, who all have the em arr ay mentality of "there is still issues, but they need to be critically examined, seen through and sought to be fixed only if there actually is an issue" - Much like based mom, or whoever in pic of >>268453340
And if you want nutshell of Patriarchy theory it is the assertion without evidence that men oppressed women throughout times as te illuminardi and are reaping the benefits daily for just being men. Therefore every man is fundamentally evil and priveleged and shit, the modern day original sin that works even on atheists.
>After today, all game reviews need a "would I be embrassed to play this in front of my wife/daughter/in public" rating
lol. I wonder what this guy would think about Salo: The 120 Days of Sodom.
But SJW males are all whiteknights, I know that for sure. Theyre not in it for the ideology, they're in it for pussy and became pussies themselves for letting the pussy influence what they'll fight for(even if its contrary to male equality)
part of the reason I say I miss just calling them whiteknights is because there are NO females on this website, so any person here advocating SJ(and I hate calling it this because im not against social justice just their warped, unfair brand of SJ)must also be a whiteknight.
Most women like playing or creating sexy female characters.
>But SJW males are all whiteknights, I know that for sure.
No, they do a lot of white knighting but they are way more aggressive on that, see bob chipman versus that random guy who says "guys do not go on hitting on her just because she is a girl"
>Theyre not in it for the ideology,
And you know this by your asserion because..?
>they're in it for pussy and became pussies themselves for letting the pussy influence what they'll fight for(even if its contrary to male equality)
And you absolutely know this as an definitive fact in the light of the evidence of...
No, I am not saying that is not possible but SJW males at worst are just as bad as women spewing out ideologically loaded bullshit. Japanese have a saying that the room defines the man. And others say The actions define a man. Bob chipman is not white knightin anyone when his very first episode out right claims bungie were making halo 3 characters resemble german idea of "master race" by purpose. Or that "link should be absolutely be girl because girls can then identify to become stronger" and so many other shits.
There is so much Juice warrior males just outputting this shit, especially on journo sites that it goes to hilarious and exceeds the heap and dives into absolute despair when hopes for humanity are being lost.
You probably have not seen half the shit I seen.
And yes, one ugly thing about their ideology is self label of "Pro Social Justice". While being fucking narsissistic bigots themselves.
>they have no actual points
>every thread about Sarkeesian is bursting at the seams with slut-shaming, shopping their heads onto pornography, violence / death threats, character assassinations, faked tweets, false flags
>and that's just on /v/ alone
Feminists wouldn't have a leg to stand on if so many gaming communities didn't actually have such a glaringly obvious problem dealing with women.
Anita came out and said 'video games is a hostile environment for girls' and the only thing gamers ever did in response was to utterly prove her point.
Other reasons is that most of the time we are talking about the collective of all SJW's, even the ones outside our site.
and it takes less characters to type out SJW than White Knight. Some men are absolutely insane and embedded in the same ideology. Given that it not only encompasses women, it also holds ideas like white privelege, that white people inheritly have priveleg because they are white, fat opression and other insanity not gender bound like that.
Also yes, There should be a good word for SJW's. The ugly, absolutely disgusting thing is their label of Pro Justice, so whoever who has disagreement with them must be against social justice automatically. It absolves them easily from most people looking at them really critically. Like said, meanwhile they practice some really self centered views veiled as "pro social justice" - projecting really nasty things onto people, taking part in harassment and doxxing way more than anyone against them does. And when you go and try call it out you are against social justice, you hate niggers, you hate black people and women, misogynist, racist everything for calling bullshit on SJW's.
That is why people probably try to just rope and bring down the current popular notions of social justice. Most of them stem from deeply self centered views of middle class americans anyway. Sure there may be social issue or twelve around still, but SJWism is not goddamn fixing it in any way and only causing shitfests and trouble.
Pfffhahahaha. SJWs are great, just lying and spinning shit so they can pretend they are right.
You just did a literal "No TRUE Scotsman" logical fallacy.
The best part of all this SJW nonsense is how Japan will never, ever give a fuck. Gotta love how huge that cultural divide is. In the west, Anita can make mainstream news, in the east, they have lewd 2D girls plastered all over store fronts and billboards throughout the most populated cities.
You only think that because you can't trust women. You can never see them as allies, never on your side.
You're incapable of seeing empathy in others, to you everyone is only out to benefit themselves. They must have an ulterior motive, they'll throw you under the bus because why would anyone act any different.
The only woman you can trust is defanged, disarmed and docile. Anyone else is a threat. Any gain for women is a net loss for men.
You're the one who sees the world as 'men vs women', not the feminists.
Are you a misogynist enough to say a female with worldview not yours has just taken into herself to hate other women - somehow?
How fucking misogynist are you? I could never even from a fictional character thing she would be brain damaged to that extent just for being sexy, sex positive and shit.
Stop slut shaming olevly Bayo-chan.
>No, they do a lot of white knighting
cool, so you disagree then you immediately agree.
>And you know this by your asserion because..?
>And you absolutely know this as an definitive fact in the light of the evidence of...
no bub, those are called generalizations, just like
>SJW males at worst are just as bad as women spewing out ideologically loaded bullshit
>The SJW's themselves are to blame for two thirds of that
>SJW's on other hand are just insane people
and dont forget that condescending shit you put in for no reason to insult a person who is having a civil discussion with you
>You probably have not seen half the shit I seen.
wtf is your problem dude
You don't understand. Japan has taken sex and sexuality and turned it into a commodity in every respect. Every single thing that's linked to sex, every possible facet of a relationship, has been turned into a product for sale over there, and all of it is heavily advertised. That shit is not going to change. It'll only get weirder.
And that's great.
You are misogynist because you believe you know better than women. You think you should be making their decisions for them, telling them what's okay for them to like.
Hardly. Japan isn't going to shutter a billion-yen business just because feminists in America are pissed off. The worst that could happen is a ban on sales in America, which ultimately won't work in the short run thanks to piracy and in the long run due to economic codependency.
There are lady vidya characters that aren't misogynstic like Bayo. Take the new Tomb Raider. She's a self suficcient capable lady protagonist who isn't needlessly sexualized. Or Elizabeth from BI
>cool, so you disagree then you immediately agree.
To white knight as verb and being a white knight as subject, is two different things.
You want to replace their very output SJW mentalist label under the label of White Knights that are not really a problem. A white knights is not a SJW until proven otherwise, a SJW male is probably also a whiteknight because of the SJW idelogies, white knight harder and stronger because of this mentality if it comes down to this, but are not 100% cases even white knights.
>no bub, those are called generalizations, just like
Like I said, backed by evidence of.
For whatever three things I said about SJW males I can say "watch movie bob in action" or "Watch the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpy_SEeDZ4Y"
Like I said, I seen some shit. Sure I did not link anything, I link that now.
>and dont forget that condescending shit you put in for no reason to insult a person who is having a civil discussion with you
If I ever did that, sorry, 1500 was hell of a character limit which is why I gave two posts to you.
I stated you probably have not seen half the shit I seen, because that is the impression I have for you saying SJW males are just white knights, and only thing they do is to white knight, while I have seen them do shit spewing beyond just basic white knighting.
I even edited the sentence to be as little condescending as I could put it to be. I am not being hostile, just scattered in thought and 1500 is litt
It's so frustrating that those, poor, helpless, strong, independent, womyn just don't know what's best for themselves. Luckily they have us feminists to tell them what they can and cannot like.
Also tag climax, secret unlockables and ranking system.
Also you get two games. The first one having at least three quarters the content of the second one.
I've put 200 hours in W101, already unlocked everything and I'm still having fun.
Because it doesn't matter to him. GG only effects pretty much indie devs and shitty journalism sites that everyone knew were already shitty. Why would some bald Japanese man who calls Americans idiots all day on twitter give a shit?
Also just to add, given the 1500 character limit:
PERSONALLY I see white knigting as active act of defending woman, or women, or to defend someone in general.
What SJW males - and there is a lot, do is not only defend, but promote same ideologies as SJW women do, spoke abou robert case him being misogynist MRA and other bullshit misinformation with others. And it was not one, two, five, TEN, even more. Different males not even actively white knighting anyone, just joining in to bash men, MRA movement and shit.
In case you see this way of acting as extension of white knighting, it may be why we have this difference in view. I do not see it as white knighting when it is not actively in defence - in knighting someone or some group.
Are you admitting that you guys have been falseflagging since you were banned in order to force people to move to eitochan?
Becuase it won't work. That place has no rule against ponyshit.
You had your chance to influence the industry by voting with your purse dollars in the 1970s, when video games weren't about male or female protagonists and were just blocks of 1x2 pixels or triangles.
You CHOSE not to support that, and boys did. So video games are made generally for boys, the bulk of the spending market. And I say "you" collectively. There's not much you can do to force your gender to buy more games, so become a dev and make girly shit for girls, or please shut the fuck up. Preferably the later.
Sorry lezbo/trans/mexican/club-footed/midgets, you only get to have a say when you participate in the market. Either spend the money collective so you're worth pandering to or make it yourself. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my skimpy weeb fan service because we as a community fund it as an interest.
>become a dev and make girly shit for girls, or please shut the fuck up.
This is what pisses me off. Feminists do not want to make female friendly dev studios, they want to fuck up existing studios and IPs.
Dragging men down, not pulling women up.
>It's wrong for men to like those games, they shouldn't exist because I want the attention and /or developer focus
>it's wrong for these games to exist despite the free market determining their worth
>it's wrong for the industry to ignore a non-spending fringe interest group I belong to
Women in vidya journalism and blogging, everyone
That outfit she's in at the start of 2, that white coat and stockings. She looks pretty sexy. Could be the leggings, I just love 'em. Other than that, not really, I mean her new short hair style is cute, but I just like her because she's fun, hilarious, and interesting.
Also the way how they cry how fields Y X Z do not have enough women.
Yet they show zero interest in becoming a worker in Y X or Z fields. They fail outright from seeing that they themselves explain why the fuck women are not more represented in some fields; women in general choose other fields for career, that is just side effect of freedom of choice and shit.
Only way to fix it is feminist gestapo to force women work on certain fields until quotas are at 50/50 or heck, even just 100% for women or something.
Hahahaha. I don't have a Wii U, but I'm buying that game now. Fuck me, these people are hilarious.
How fucking misogynist must one be to think that for being a good looking, she instantly revokes every positive trait she has, and the one immediately seen positive trait, is actually negative one?
That is like, what I would think as misogyny yo.
It's sexist because the player controls her instead of Bayo controlling herself.
Yeah that's the level of argument we're dealing with.
Nevermind when you're actually playing, you choose your combos based on how best to deal with the enemies, not based on how you want to see Bayonetta get naked.
I really wish I could hear some legitimate complaints from SJWs, but it never happens. It's just constant ridiculous bullshit.
ARE they any legitimate complaints, not even related to just bayo? Any? At all?
Idort master race. Riding the wave of fun games without anger, never being salty about exclusives, and laughing at retarded console wars.
There aren't a lot of female protags because the suits think they make people "uncomfortable", which sucks, because I'm all for them. Stuff like Remember Me doesn't help either.
>The game's plot focuses on Nilin, a memory hunter working for an underground resistance called the Errorists. When the game starts, she has been stripped of nearly all her memories by mega-corporation Memorize. With the help of a mysterious man named Edge, she goes on a quest to bring down Memorize and recover her lost memories.
Hahaha, what the FUCK is this shit.
And I'm not sure what you mean by uncomfortable.
The funny thing is prior to Anita breaking out and becoming big I can't remember it happening all that often. Sure "girl gamers" were mocked for seeking attention, but on the scale things are now? It did not seem anywhere near as bad. My gaming tastes where shaped by my older sister and her female friends, by my mom and my aunts, I played games just as much with my girl friends as I did my boy friends, and I can't remember a single instance of a girl being told she couldn't play video games. And I'm a gayguy that didn't feel comfortable at all around boys. I had almost exclusively female friends growing up...
When you enter a group and start saying "I don't like you. You're doing this wrong. You should all be ashamed of yourself." isn't a good idea at all, especially the way Anita presents it. She's a negatively charged person and her feminist views are all focused on negatives. She ignores the games where Peach is a positive character, she feels GTA should punish you in a harsher way when you get arrested even though it's a video game and not real, she's stated that NPCs victims should have story arcs and we should see them go through their recovery, she's claimed things that reward you negatively do not affecte the game... She's not good for feminism or any kind of cause. She's negative, crotchety, and bitter. She once implied that the idea of Katniss being involved in a love triangle is sexist without even knowing what direction the female writer was going to take it. She isn't an idol, she does not deserve attention, she should not be respected or revered.
I agree that video games can do some sexist shit but I can not get behind Anita as a person or a proponent for feminism even when I ignore the shady things she's done. The community has felt so hostile in the last few years. It's really just not been fun on either side...
Does this faggot realize that Bayonetta has a single button combo mode? There is literally a mode where the game plays itself
But I suppose we would have had to play the game to know this
That's not the point. The point is that people think they are entitled to be able to purchase certain kinds of products. It's not a human right to be able to play as a certain kind of character in a privately funded and developed video game.
>we should see them go through their recovery
Lel. Run over a guy in GTA, break his body, then watch him go through rehab and struggle to walk again.
Then the day he finally walks out of the hospital, you run him over again.
It's funny actually, that Mcintosh guy recently tweeted that Mari Shimazaki being a woman doesn't exempt her from criticism. I have a funny feeling that would suddenly be out the window if Sarkeesian were to be disagreed with.
Also, considering what the producer of Bayonetta 2 said about Bayo being a role model, what right does anyone have to dictate what should and should not be a good female character? Just because she's outwardly sexy in her demeanour, that makes her bad? That negates why anyone should like her?
Paraphrasing her words were along the lines of by leaving these female victims shaken and disturbed we're not able to connect emotionally to their struggles and grasp why them getting nearly raped was bad and why it should be stopped.
They're an NPC. You do not need to see them again Anita. You don't need to connect with them. They're a nameless generic body.
What, the fuck. are you talking about?
Jill Valentine has a big ass compared with bayonetta and it's not massive.
And big boobs?? come on!
I think she is really sexy, but because of how she is, not how she looks. however her design really help those moves to shine the most
>"How come there aren't more women programmers in this studio hmmmm? I smell sexism in this place!"
>You're free to become a programmer if you like. With just a few classes and some cash you can bring some females to learn how to program. Our studio will be glad to hire them.
>"WHOA HOLD ON, I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT NERD SHIT"
What i mean is that, sure Lara was always female, But has the traits of many male action heros, like Indiana Jones. So it was inspired by male characters. Basically taking a male character and make it female would be the same.
>Roberta williams Is basically a legend today
>BUT THERE ARE NOT WOMEN IN GAME DEVELOPMENT!!
We should just lurk and start posting every female lead developer that worked in successful franchises and make a list.
It's worse when you can be rich enough to be a member of the Glorious PC Gaming® Master Race™ and every console has one game you want, so they all have about 5 hours playtime each to finish it.
(worst)parts of that are how indignant she was, despite her question being moronic and all the white knights clapping for her moronic question.
Because Anita is sex-negative feminist. She views sex as a tool of oppression rather than something that all woman and men should be open and honest about. So a woman being sexy at all is bad. She needs to be conservative and reserved in her mannerism. A character like Bayonetta isn't her thing.
Japan is a more sex-positive country so her being open like that isn't viewed as bad or oppressive by Shimazaki-san. She views Bayonetta being free as a positive trait.
A lot of modern American feminists seem to flipflop and act hypocritical about this subject. Its not okay to slutshame, it is okay to say Bayonetta is sexist for not being ashamed of body. You should defend Taylor Swift for having a lot of boyfriends, you should call out any fictional character that acts in a similar way as being sexist because she's a vehicle for male power fantasies.
If there are two things most modern feminists have a shitty grasp on it's media and sex...
The idea of even having a racist of sexist villain isn't allowed without being strictly and vehemently called out. Example: Catwoman being called a bitch in Arkham City.
The REAL best part is that his answer is basically perfect: great PR-wise, entirely logical, and answers her question. He didn't even seem mad.
you should call out any fictional character that acts in a similar way as being sexist because she's a vehicle for male power fantasies.
I suppose the line of thought would be that most characters are assumed to be designed and written mostly by guys, but if that's the case, why not look at the core of the issue; why are there proportionally less women in the industry, and what correlation does that have with women playing videogames? How do you change it, what effect would it have if it did change? It's an issue that requires sober thought, not accusations.
>implying SRS isn't with GamerGate
Remove Reddit, Gaia, NeoGAF, and Tumblr
Remove /pol/ and /lgbt/
/v/ is /v/, not your battlefield about shitty personal politics and platform/forum wars.
8ch-n is right around the corner, better and open place to argue stupid shit.
The Joys are sex incarnate though.