Myths

that your favourite game is good

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That devs care about what tumblr chicks say.
They'll put all the tits they like in their games.

"Artificial fun"

Op isn't a fag is a good one.

>>267754617
no u

>>267753936
>Sheik is a guy
Why would anyone even believe this. Sheik is Zelda, thus, Sheik = Grill. Not that hard.

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>>267753936

I know it's b8 but... please report to pic presented.
Official artwork for OoT 64.

>>267755351
what of it?

>>267755329
Keeping in mind she uses magic to transform, it's entirely possible that she could indeed have a male body while under the Sheik persona. Hell, her body looks extremely masculine as >>267755351 shows, and even smaller details such as her eyes changing colour could indicate that she is actually altering her body instead of just throwing on a different pair of clothes.
After all, Zelda did turn into Sheik so that she could stay hidden from Ganondorf. If changing your gender through magic isn't a sure-fire way of keeping yourself off the radar, then not much else will.

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>Sheik
>was once glorious brown elf masterrace
>was depicted as lighter and lighter as years went by
>now completely whitewashed
life is suffering

>>267755728
she uses magic to change costumes, that's all
it's all costuming to disguise herself

>>267755728
Nigga that's just gay headcanon shit

>>267755351
She's not flatchested, she's got a sarashi/breast binder. Still a girl.

>>267755728
>what are contacts

>>267756063
Also referred to as "She" by Nintendo IIRC

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>Ocarina of Time came out 16 years ago
>to this day there are folk who refuse to believe they were rused
gj nintendo

People actually think Sheik being female isn't a massive retcon.

>>267753936
SJWs have an influence on vidya game industry.

>>267755728
>Hell, her body looks extremely masculine
She's been in hiding as a secret service ninja for 7 years. Of course she's going to get a body to leave humanity behind in.

>>267756183
Yeah totally man. It's not like she had a female voice in Ocarina of Time.

she did

>>267756183
how is it/

>>267756183
That implies it was canon that Sheik was a man. Protip: it wasn't.

>>267756282
Whether she is or not, that evidence means nothing. Male characters often have female voice actors, especially in Japanese media.

>Sheik will never fuck you with his humongous fucking cock

;_;

If Zelda could transform into sheik and leave the castle, why didn't she just transform, leave the castle, and not go back

>>267756496
Because she's a stupid bitch. Or she was there to talk to Link, I don't know. Probably would have been nice if she would call him with her magic cellphone to schedule the meetings very far away from the castle, I guess.

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Alright, let's get down to the real business. Should Link go with Zelda or stay true ot his fiancée.

>>267756462
It's either
>they used Zelda's voice actress because it is Zelda in a costume
>they made the deliberate choice of having a male character not have a masculine voice for no particular reason

Japan may be fucked but anybody who thinks Sheik was a bona fide dude is just being silly. She covered her face because she is Zelda, if she could change herself so drastically she probably wouldn't need such a disguise, It's Zelda in a costume wearing some magic make-up.

>>267757265
You're probably right about her gender and the reason for the costume, but
>they made the deliberate choice of having a male character not have a masculine voice for no particular reason

This is exactly what they would do. Same reason why Goku still had the same (female) voice actor from when he was a kid in Dragonball. They just didn't want to change it.

>>267753936
It's no myth

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>>267756878
Why not bo__?

>>267756462
>Male characters often have female voice actors, especially in Japanese media.
Except they don't usually end up sounding like females. Also if you were to argue a retarded case like that, you'd be saying that Huey / Riley (Boondocks) aren't male because they're voiced by a female. Not only that but aside from a few grunts, Sheik's scream is essentially identical to Zelda. Why go through the trouble to make a male character, who is seen by the player as male through context clues, then make them have essentially the same voice as Zelda?

People keep saying "it's gotta be a guy, it's obvious" but what would that change? You can't even see Sheik's face at any point, and half of the theories are plain retard.
>Sheik has different eye color, that must mean they've got a dick!
as >>267756005 said it's just borderline gay headcanon shit that really doesn't matter, and has no real reason to be true even if it was.

>>267758725
fuck

>>267758491
But Sheik is Zelda.

>>267758809
>Also if you were to argue a retarded case like that, you'd be saying that Huey / Riley (Boondocks) aren't male because they're voiced by a female.

...No, that actually supports my point even more. That females voice male characters, even in non Japanese media, so it wouldn't be weird at all that they didn't bother changing her voice clips. I'm not even saying Sheik is a guy, but the voice isn't a strong point.

>>267755351
Literally every depiction of Sheik since then has had her more feminine, including the 3DS remake, for the sole purpose of clearing up this misunderstanding.
But faggots love like you refuse to take a hint.

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>>267755351
I've come to accept that this picture is solely responsible for the misunderstanding (as it would understandably be), and that since then, as >>267759569 says, this has been corrected. The artist also drew the oot cows like this...

How come nobody ever suggests that Ganondorf is a girl?

>big girly earrings and jewelry
>frilly crown-hair thing
>painted nails

>>267761438
When you're the sole male born in a tribe of women of course you're gonna have painted nails.

>>267761438
Though in older times those weren't particularly feminine things.

Sheik was Zelda in disguise. Sheik is a male disguise. Sheik presents as male but is really female. Well in OOT at least, maybe in Smash Sheik doesn't bother pretending to be a man.

Women dressing up as men is a common fiction trope

>>267762296
yeah but sheik's not a person

>>267760190
but the cow still has tits.

3DS remodel is a ret-con. Period.
Probably because Nintendo wouldn't want a main protagonist of one of their big series in the West to be a magical transgender shoujo lol

>>267765138
it's not a retcon, it's just a refinement
Sheik was always female

>>267753936
The industry isn't sexist

>>267756175

>Retarded people

Fixed that for you.
Sheik is still a female.
Removing her clothes would reveal a hylian hairy pussy from zelda and her tits would jiggle .
No dick , no hairy chest it would a a female Nintendo confirmed it.

>>267765691

why you assume male = having a dick?

Sheik is a male persona. per-so-na.

>>267765767
Male is a characteristic of a biological organism.

Also you're insistence upon this "male persona" shit is like those people say they believe in God if you define God as the universe. It's just playing with semantics.

>>267766242
>Male is a characteristic of a biological organism.

you mean sex.
male is a gender, which is not-biological.

but even so, I'm with you. Here: Sheik is refered as "he" in-game, right? So it doesn't really matter if Zelda just binded her chest and did some minor magic to change her eye's color (ignoring the difference between her in-game models as Sheik and Zelda for the sake of the argument) OR if she did a full gender-bender-magic.

Sheik IS "he"
Zelda IS "she".

the whole debate is kinda useless, actually.

>>267767109
Sheik is only a she pretending to be a he

>>267767210
dis

>>267767210

my point exactly. The "persona" bomb is meant to nuke the debate.

I understand both sides of it.

Sheik, physically, is still a woman. Zelda clearly doesn't dedicate the magical energy that sprouting a dick would require, especially since it's entirely unnecessary.

However, her intention behind taking on the Sheik persona is to pretend to be a guy who is *not princess zelda.* And so "Sheik" is a guy, but Zelda, who is pretending to be "Sheik" is a girl.

It's like both sides of this argument are intentionally pretending they don't understand the other side just so they can continue arguing.

BUT NOBODY DOES THAT ON 4CHAN AMIRITE?

>>267755728
Her voice doesn't change, no point in magically getting a penis if your voice is still the same

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>>267767518
This has nothing to do with the stupid level of semantics you're stooping to to appease both sides while still insulting them. This has to do with one side saying that Sheik was physically a male with a magic cock.

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>Shiek is Zelda
Yeah just like how Snake was Plissken right?

>>267753936
You do realize the Shiek disguise was meant to look like a guy right? A pretty guy but a guy.

She was in hiding ya dingus.

>>267767863

unrelated but.... source?

>>267767863
I addressed that. Those people are stupid.

>>267768105
>girl disguises as guy
>suddenly is a guy

>>267768650
That's debatable but the disguise was obviously supposed to be a dude. I think that's what she was going for.

>>267768089
>apples are bandanas

>>267767109
Male is a sex. It is absolutely biological. The typical "non-biological" thing they do is say "man or woman" but male is absolutely a biological identifier.

>>267755351
no bulge

you can see she taped her A cups flat

>>267768240

It's an edit, dumbass

>>267769017

nope, male is a gender. Please report to your local antropology library (not cultural, mind you, but the etnography of several Polinese people)

>>267769307 I know, I want the original, if possible

>>267761438
>Sand-niggers allowing woman to be their kings/emperors.

>>267769439
Male is a sex. This is a fact. It's basic biology.

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>Video games can age.

>>267773028
>implying scientific facts don't change over time with new discoveries, experiments, etc

ok, I give up. /v/ ain't the place to educate oneself on these matters anyway.

go read some Thomas Kuhn and learn about scientific progress, will you?

Why did Ruto call Sheik a "he"?

>>267773609
mistranslation

>>267753936

Sheik is a guy, he was a girl before but now in that form is a guy.

If you ask why, well it´s very simple... a wizard did it.

>>267773925
>headcanon

>Wii U has games

>>267761842
How is any born in a tribe of only women?

>>267774605
they kidnap Hylian men

>>267755913
>everything i care about is skincolour

>>267753936
Haven't you ever wondered if maybe it isn't shiek that is a guy, but Zelda in OOC; period.
That the Zelda in Ocarina of Time is literally just a cross-dressing boy.

>>267776605
she isn't

>>267755351
And Master Tigress looks like a guy since she tapes up her tits to not be problematic, doesn't mean she's not a girl.

>>267776605
fuck you, Zelda is a girl

>>267754246
Who is this cutie

>>267779630
none of your business

>>267755913
>no longer a delicious chocolately twink/petite girl

y even live