badcompany 2 vs battlefield 3/4 ?

Bad Company 2 is actually a decent game while BF3 and 4 are garbage

>>267622234
why

>>267623156
BC2 is a very simple game on the surface. You have to sacrifice perks for weapon attachments and this leads to greater balance. It also has nearly complete destructible environment. The explosions were huge and fun to cause. And the game didn't take itself seriously, and this led to nice dialogue in the game. I also enjoy shooting the weapons in BC2 as they all feel fun and powerful in their own way.

>console shit vs console shit

>>267623156
SP is a joke in both games. BC2 wasn't good either, but far better than those.

The MP has better maps, a more natural destruction level than BF3 and 4.

Better gun handling, though it still have that stupid thing of getting hits registered after you go behind cover.

The only thing 3 and 4 have better than BC2 is going prone, I can't understand why you couldn't, and jets.

Do people still play the vietnam expansion? Shits rad

>>267623974
Imagine how bad of a wookie problem we would have had if you could prone

>>267623838
But all of them are on BC and battlefield originally got popular because of its PC release of BF2.

>>267624149
I wanted to get them vietnam expansion, but as a faggot who can't keep track of my backlog, I always forget. I hope there is people inwhen I get it.

I'm still not entirely sure why, but I much prefer BC2 to BF4. Maybe it has something to do with the gunplay.

>>267624732
The game isn't a sell out , rushed piece of shit which took a step back for the franchise is why you prefer it

BC2 all the way.
a big chunk of the buildings and vegetation in maps can be destroyed.
Carl Gustav was the best portable anti-air weapon, had the speed I needed to match my predictions when I shot down a Heli also I liked the challenge of hit-and-run against tanks given ya needed extra rockets to take it out vs RPG
The maps werent unnecessarily huge like in BF3 where at times some part of the map were never used to a big extent, maybe some in 64 players but other times not so much.
destruction on BF3 was drawn back and most of the map cant be destroyed.
Recon can't help much in taking out a tank, they can equip c4 in BF3, no mortar, not much help vs tanks

BC 1 sniping was the fucking best thing ever

>>267625658
cant* equip c4

>>267622158
Bad Company 2 was the last good Battlefield game.

I got better memories from BC2 than BF3
DICE admitted they dont know what was the ''IT' factor that made BC2 so grand.

AK-74u, Grach, Carl G. all day every day
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Man me and my buddy had so much fun getting drunk then playing BC2 together. BC2 is for sure better, best battlefield game since 2.

>>267627078
>grach
>not 1911
But why?

BF3 because jets.

>>267628869
jets in bf3 are absolutely disgusting compared to bf2

I liked Bad Company 2, it was fun.
BF3 was fun, too. Spent a lot of time playing it. Expansions were fun.
BF4 is exactly the same but I still do not understand why it is such a boring game.

>>267628683
More bullets in the magazine, I wasnt a bad shot but in some cases I could shoot 2 guys with the same mag

>tfw I seem to be the only person that likes 3 better than BC2

that's not to say I didn't love BC2, I played the shit out of it and had really great times.

I've even tried to go back to BC2 after 3 came out but 3 is more balanced.

BC2 changed for the worse when most everyone transisitioned to 3. The only people left are people thst "main" helicopters for circle strafing. It's practically impossible to circle strafe in 3, and that's good.

>>267629443
reading my thought anon, what's your opinion on bf4?

>Engineer
>AS-VAL
>Tracer
>RPG
>Tagging helicopters every day
>Swatting down the flies like they were nothing

Those feels.

>tfw bf4 is actually playable thanks to the last patch

Of all the casualshit FPS games, BC2 is the best one.

>>267630163
Half of sounds still do not load. Most textures are lowres for the half of the match. The game loads for 3-5 minutes.

>32 players max
>Maps are literal corridors
>Rush is the main game mode
>No prone
>No jets
>Medic with infinite health and an LMG that doesn't even need to be deployed
>Engineer with a rocket designed specifically to kill infantry
>Assault with infinite 40mm grenades

BC2 didn't even pretend to be a Battlefield game.

>>267629853

Played the demo on PS3, hated it. And that's not even taking into account the skinner box psychology of the battle pack system.

I was tempted to buy BF4 for my brother, but I'm glad I didnt. As a matter of principle I don't buy Ea games anymore.

>>267630365
>having a toaster

I don't have any of those problems m8, tell your PC to git gud

BC2 was better because the individual soldier couldn't become as strong and people relied on teams instead. Atleast much more than BF3.

In BF3/BF4 you have all those powerhouse weapons with far higher DPS than others and far more attachments and upgrades that eliminate all disadvantages of those weapons.

Vehicles are even worse and become far too strong.

Look at how onesided the matches often become. They went way overboard with the unlockables and customization.

This is just the same shit that Call of Duty is doing. Any individual can destroy all others with killstreaks etc.

Ofcourse magnum ammo existed and it was fucking shit, but the game was still better because it was simpler, or rather ... more limited - thus you had to rely on actual skill instead of gimmicks.

The game wasn't fucking The Sims like BF3 and 4 and didn't bait people with with rpg shit gratification (unlocks) that much.

>>267628683
Grach is easily the best pistol in the game. 17 bullets, deadly accurate, potentially really high rate of fire if you're fast Abe pretty deadly too even more so with magnum ammo

>>267630436
Because it's not supposed to be,idiot

I like BC2 by far, still play it from time to time

I moved on to 4 simply because it gets tiring playing the same few maps over and over again, especially when I don't have friends to play it with anymore, but If say a map pack came out for bc2 I'd actually buy it

Which is another thing I hate about bf3/4, you get maybe 4-5 maps to play, and than 15-20 more you have to buy, not to count all the weapons and shit you can't have unless you buy

>tfw spas-12 w/slug ammo

>>267631217
Tfw you always miss with slugs even though you're always on point

>>267630948

I once ran the numbers for the expansions/DLC that BF2 had vs the post-release content for 3 and they come out roughly evenly. If you didn't think Armored Fury was a rip-off then neither are the 3/4 DLC.

>>267631298
Slugs were nerfed pretty hard iirc, before that happened you could snipe with shotguns.

I think the "x" factor that made BC2 feel so good is that the maps were much better at forcing engagements, so that even with the smaller player counts, the maps felt full, yet the engagements still felt focused, because you had a rough idea where the enemies were and where the fight was going to be, you could sort of make plans and take up defensive positions or make offensive maneuvers.

The problem with BF3 and BF4 with the the larger playercounts is that the maps either feel empty, or the combat zones are almost always utter fucking clusterfucks where you can get killed from any direction with people just spawning in or disembarking from any number of vehicles, and that's not really a good feel in a game that is supposed to more closely match the feeling of a team shooter and not a twitch shooter.

I suppose that might just be a criticism of rush vs. conquest, but even then it's fair because rush was the go-to mode in BC2 while conquest is the main mode for BF3 and BF4

>>267630746
mah nigga

>>267631830

To be fair though that exact criticism can be applied to the classic Battlefield games as well, that the maps were so big the matches would consist of playing control-point tag and isolated skirmishes instead of huge-feeling battles.

If anything 3 and 4 are an improvement in terms of making you feel like you're in a Michael Bay movie, as much as I loved 1942 and 2 half of my memories from those games involved driving to an empty enemy CP on a dune buggy or motorcycle or whatever, capping it with no enemies in sight and then zooming off to cap another point before the enemy players show up.

>love to play bc2
>start up today
>in menu 5 fps ingame 10 fps
What the fuck happened? Anyone knows how to fix this?

>>267622158
>graphics
bf4
>music
bad company
>gameplay
bad company

>>267632112
Oh absolutely, there's certainly something to be said about the absolute mayhem that can occur in any number of the 64 player BF games, and it's not impossible for a single player (or a coordinated squad) to turn the game around. I'm just trying to offer up a possible explanation as to why the Bad Company games, feel different than the ones in the main series, and I think a lot of that has to do with the slower pace engendered by the map design and game modes.

I think BC2 is generally more fun, but I liked the more serious tone of BF3 as the character models didn't look like cartoon caricatures. Vehicular combat was definitely more satisfying in BC2.

>>267632437

Sure.

But the argument here is that the slower pace and larger scale is an absolutely obligatory part of Battlefield since its what defined the series from the start. Smaller maps and faster gameplay is found in tons of other games, if you find Battlefield too spread out for your liking then look elsewhere.

>>267632608
>bc2 characters looked like cartoon caricatures
>look at OP pic

what are you talking about?

>>267624620
There won't be too many servers left, you should be able to find at least one playable server though. I played a few months ago and there were still a decent number up.

BF4 = BC2 > BF3

What is the best shotgun in BC2? I've only tried the 870 & Saiga, and they're both great (though I like the saiga slightly better).

>>267631830
And those afterbattle animations. Man, it's so simple, yet so endearing to see them. They never get old.

>>267632845
I like the 870 just because of how powerful each shot feels

>>267632217
Runs okay in my rig, and it's an average build.
OS?

I had 60fps everytime i played just today it fucks up and i don't know why.
Only in this game too.

>>267632796
b8

>>267632674
I never said it wasn't to my liking, I'm just saying part of the reason BC2 feels different from the other games is precisely because it isn't as spread out as the other games, leading to more focused, consistent engagements while still within the framework of combined arms combat in relatively large maps. Of course that's not an across the board thing, as having the map pick where the fights are going to be robs players of the opportunity of making those tactical decisions.

>>267633343

BC2 is a spin-off plain and simple.

>>267633450
I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make with that statement.

>we will likely never see BC3 set in WW2

I'm sick to death of this modern warfare bullshit,time to go back to the classic

>>267633278
Actually not b8. BF4 is excellent now after the new patch. It's basically BF3 with a vast amount of improvements that make it, well, fun. Battlelog and Origin still bring it down though.

BC2 is fantastic, obviously. The only real flaw that I can think of is the inability to strafe while sprinting, so the movement basically locks itself. Oh well.

>>267633631

I'm saying it's not directly comparable to the main series because they weren't trying to make a main-series game

>>267633698

What did the patch change and is worth getting back into the game if I haven't played since January?

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Where are you going to be when Hardline flops like a pancake?

is hardline the new BC?

>>267633698
>the inability to strafe while sprinting
i had to get used to this as well

>>267633724
I disagree. I think you're right, it was definitely trying to go in a different direction as the main series, but I don't believe that somehow makes it an apples to oranges comparison. If anything, it's quite a fertile ground for comparison, identify the relevant points of departure from the main game and determining how they impact the way the game plays.

Bad Company 2 was only ass because of no prone.

>>267624262
1942 and vietnam were popular also, 1942 mainly because of desert combat.

>>267633901
All the changes that made the CTE better than the actual game got implemented.

Read the blog to have an idea.

>>267634063
Invisible snipers would have added NOTHING to the game.

>>267634084
And Forgotten Hope.

>>267633698
so is the net code up to snuff yet, to me that is the biggest thing that holds BF back, even COD has better netcode (yes I know hitscans make detection easier)

>>267634158
>A class that relies on low profile shouldn't be low profile.

Are you daft? I admit that without that lenses reflection, I would hate the shit out of them, but using lmg and not going prone is also frustrating.

You don't balance removing stuff that worked in the first place.

>>267633901
Fixed up the movement system, shooting, added customizable HUD, and a slew of other changes.

Totally worth giving it another try.

>>267634495

Ok.

Next question. Are the DLC any good?

>>267634584
ehh...

They're not bad, but I wouldn't call them must-haves either. If you're a fan they're probably worth it, but I don't think you're missing anything with just the base game

Is BC2 ded? I reinstalled BF4 this morning thinking, why did I uninstall this, but holy shit is wobbly.
I miss bad company.

>>267634795
it's not dead

just lots of laggy BRs

I loved the shit out of BC1 but none of my friends would get it because "muh cod"

>>267634584
I don't feel like getting them if it happens the same thing that happened with BF3.
>Pay Premium
>All populated servers are Vanilla only.

>>267634916
Par for the course is one of the greatest maps of all time.

>>267634584
A lot of them are hit and miss, but overall they're pretty fun. Naval Strike and Dragon's Teeth are probably the best of the bunch, and Final Stand looks promising.

>>267634325
The netcode is much improved. I'll still have some occasional bullshit moments, but it isn't nearly as bad as it was a few months ago.

>>267624262
Wut. Battlefield has always been popular

>>267624262
Where were you in 2002?

I like both and spent many hours on both. I might be one of the only ones to say this but BF3 > BC2.

My reasoning for this is first, in OP's pic even, Medics shouldn't carry LMGs. Dumbest class choice I've ever seen. The cover is pretty dumb in this game too. Everything is usually lower or higher than you are when you stand or crouch. Someone mentioned before, no strafing while sprinting. That's very annoying. I didn't like bullet damage either. Felt like it took too many shots to get someone down. Too much snow/dust blowing around. Course that was replaced with the sun in BF3. I also like the sound design more in BF3. BC2's is good but it just feels weird after playing 3. Also, though BF3 had some crappy maps, it's better maps are better than BC2's, I feel. Both are good games though.

Bad Company 2 was a fun game, but it tried hard to copy call of duty modern warfare 2. The first bad company was like bf2 and bf2mc had a love child with destroy able buildings.

>>267623156
Ingame server browser

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>always been a COD guy
>damn COD you so tight
>muh arena shooter
>crazy killstreaks
>friends trick me to get BF4
>it's all so fucking slow

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>>267622158

bf4 literally improved on everything from BC2, was this like your first fucking battlefield game?

1942 > BF2 > BC2 >>>>> BF3 >>>>> BF4

>>267630082
man I loved VSS Snaiperskaya Special with red dot
that thing was so powerful only downside was to run out of ammo way to soon

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How is the PS3 community in BC2 recently? I miss this game so much

>>267635420
/thread

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>>267622158
>Buy the pc version of BC2 on a sale after playing the xbox version when it came out
>No onslaught mode
>most servers have one team that's all max rank that steamrolls the other team that's all lower levels

Jesus

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>>267635505
The more things change...

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>>267635505
>that fucking picture

>>267632796
BC2=Vanilla BF3>BF3 DLC>BF4

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dat feelin of shooting down a chopper thats trying to evade with an AT-4

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>>267635824
>most servers have one team that's all max rank that steamrolls the other team that's all lower levels

this is literally every fucking game I've been in on the 360 in the last two weeks.

>Mfw get invites to play/chat with other team but too assburgers to even reply

I will never understand how to use the choppers. Never, ever.

I try to use one, I kill myself in matter of 10 seconds.

Also BC2 all day everyday.

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>>267633698
BC2 has Infinite sprint though bruv

>>267637559
I'm gonna pretend I didn't read this shit.

>>267637521
I was a fucking chopper wizard in BF3, but can't fly anything in BC2 apart from when I'm raping shit with the UAV.

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>>267635472
>git gud

>>267634475
The game was about being fast paced and action oriented. Recons can still play like snipers without laying prone in a bush 500 yards from an objective you know.

>>267637856
I find choppers similar in all the newer BF games

I love using choppers but for some reason my game lags more than usual with them so it's hard as fuck

>>267638372
I'm not at home now, but I have a doubt, is there a way to switch prone to toggle/hold?
I haven't played it in a month or so, and I forgot. I know there's a toggle hold for ADS, but is there for crouching?

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this rifle >>>

>>267626709
It wasn't. It was a okay spin-off for consoles, but in no way was it a proper Battlefield game/experience.

>consolized and casualized battlefield vs consolized and casualized battlefield
consolized and casualized battlefield.

>>267624149
don't give snipers camo suits and it would've been fine

>>267622158
Desert Combat

Sniping in BC was GOAT

>dat bullet drop and travel time

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>>267634063
>Bad Company 2 was only ass because of no prone.

It was a fundamental part of the BC2 experience, there's already way, way too many wookies camping, letting them go prone would just fuel the flames.

If you wanna camp like a bitch and add absolutely nothing substantial to the team (apart from the odd useful suppressing mortar strike) then play something else.

>>267622234
THIS

I played this and killzone 2 religiously.

Alot of fun was had with those 2 gems

>>267630436
It was disputably a worse Battlefield game, but it was a better game overall.

>>267622158
BF2>4>3>Free2play>BC12

>>267644969
Your Mustard Shill is showing.

>playing shitty brownbloom fps cancer
Fuck off CoD/BF kiddies.

Play a real game like
>Counter-Strike
>ArmA
>Operation Flashpoint
>Quake

/thread hidden, eat shit

All three are shit.

BC2 > BF4 > BF3
Old Battlefield > Modern Battlefield
2142 > All

>>267622158
Haven't played BC2 in more than a year, are those 24/7 Squad Deathmatch servers still up? Had lots of fun with my crappy HD5670.

>Fun
BC2>BF3

>Mechanics
BF3>BC2

>Maps
Tie

Skipped BF4.

>>267635472
>CoD
>Arena
>Fast

HA

HAHAHA

If only you knew.

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>>267635472
This is obviously bait, but I will never understand how in the fuck someone can prefer CoD over battlefield.

>>267646408

Some people like the batshit pace in which things happen in CoD. That, and the weapons and customization.

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>>267645646
>Play a real game like
>Counter-Strike

You mean the game where the only 'skill' involved is determined by how much the game's mechanics hate you on any given day?

>BC2 runs akwardly even on my PC
>BF3 runs pretty smooth

Still, BF3 is a shit game.

>>267646408
They are (or at least were) very different games. Battlefield was slower for sure.

They're both pretty fast paced now but I still give Battlefield the edge because vehicles are fun.

>>267633698
I heard from a friend that medic trains are not possible in bf4 is that true?

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>>What makes this game fun

Classes

>self sufficient
Assault gets ammo for _assaulting_
Recon gets motion balls
Secondaries are decent (last game for this)

More of this, probably -- teams always feel pretty coherent on decent maps. So..

Maps

>Almost always designed with paths for Rush and Conquest; so no random encounters, per se, and even though Conquest has the tendency of hallway design - at least flow and progression seem controlled and coherent.

>Everything can be flattened
Trees, buildings: strategy. This is probably a lot of the reason teams feel so synchronous. >Just gotta hold this position for reinforcements. >Walls are coming down, gotta move.

Oh, check it out; moving improves gameplay.

>Maps are pretty
Lush greens, jungles, harbors..

>>267646828
There was a guide to optimize BC2 on PC, you had to do it on a txt config file. I couldn't play it without it, I'd get dizzy with that shit FOV and retarded effects.

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>>267646832
That's what I mean though. CoD only does one thing on tiny ass maps with a dozen people.

Meanwhile in battlefield, upwards of 64 people are fighting over large to huge maps with tanks, jeeps, jets, helicopters and the occasional boat.
And with recent additions, they've been leveling said maps to the ground in the process.

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>>267633698
>BF3 with a vast amount of improvements that make it, well, fun.

So... can you toss C4 charges/tank mines like in BC2?

>>267646851
You can only be resurrected once, and you have to charge the Defib to revive at full health, so I guess it's bonked.

>>267647646
Welp, good to know I'm never getting bf4 then.
Medic 4 lyfe

>>267631395
>you could snipe with shotguns.

The butthurt you would cause was glorious.

This last patch for BF4 and the inclusion of classic mode has restored some of my faith in DICE. Classic mode should have been in the game since the beginning, and the fact that it took so long for them to fix so many of the issues is really shitty.

>>267647236
Classes being overly self sufficient discourages teamplay. That fact that everything could be destroyed sounds cool but led to some serious bullshit. Such as being able to sit back in a tank and just blowing up a house a mcom is in to destroy it. BF3/4 could definitely use more destruction, but I would prefer have less of it then losing rounds because of game mechanics that heavily tilted to one sides favor.

>VSS and C4 recon taking objectives and popping niggas down by myself
>playing as a medic when I knew my team would be up for teamwork
>playing with nothing but the 1911
>sniping a heli pilot with a shotgun
>forgetting to swap inverted controls after using the UAV

I miss this shit.

I miss how satisfying is was to take down a helicopter.

In bc2 they would spin while plummeting to the ground then explode in the air.

In BF3/4 they just explode instantly.

This is talking about destroying them not heavily damaging.

I liked battlefield 3/4 more than BC2.

-Bigger maps
-More well rounded class options and weapons
-More options for vehicle loadouts leading to vastly different gameplay styles in them
-The maps are fun, unique, and stylish
-Commander

For the record I like BF4 too, in the above cases for class and vehicle options and flexibility. The new "classic" mode for BF4 is the best fun in battlefield i've had since BF2142.

The levels are hit and miss, every urban map in bf4 is garbage, whereas every map thats predominantly rural or lacking in buildings is always great.

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>>267649439
>Strategy
Class sufficiency is the only requirement for decent play. If it discourages teamplay, that's made up for with the complete strategy supplied by leveling objects, and that one mechanic causes movement and juxtaposes the idea of structure min-maxing and decent cover - which raises the skill ceiling.

The default class also having healthpacks is junk.

The only based criticism, then, is that MCOMs being taken out by building collapses seems awful -- and it probably does, mostly. Though, teamplay wins -- even if the MCOM situation isn't just from the quite obsolete mobility.

>>267650382
>more well rounded class options

they were shit

the classes in bc2 were perfectly setup

>>267650592
>Medics with LMGs
>Recon gets 1 weapon that isn't garbage in CQB

Yeah, no.

>>267623974
noone except airchavs missed jets in bc2, they were fucking stupid in 2, and they're still dumb in 3/4.

>>267622158
>BF3 > BF4 > BC2
BF3 improved on what BC had and it felt good.

>>267650879
Sidearms are decent which is the main benefit of the game

Bad Company 1 da best

Math:
Most fun game=best
BC1=most fun
BC1=best

>>267651124
>BF3 > anything
>glare, filters, suppression, no leveling mechanics for actual strategy
It's nothing

>>267627891

>this is how I defend the patriarchy.

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>>267630436

>literal corridors
>yfw

>>267651407
>BF3
>No shitty pers that make up under powered if you're new to the game
BF3 was the last good BF. BC2 was alright but Multiplayer lacked things.

>>267651632
But it's trash.

>>267651632
Perks*

>>267651724
>Hurr durr I was so shit at the game I thought it was shit.

BC2. Vietnam in particular.

>>267651632
>>267651907
>Implying
>Jets and other vehicle perks and subracting from squad play

>>267650509
The MCOMMs being destroyed by building destruction is the most frustrating part of BC2. On some maps, the attacking team literally does not have to leave their spawn for the first MCOMM set. They can just commandeer a tank and destroy the MCOMM/building around it.

>>267622158
BC2 is really good, I got BF3 but couldn't really get into it for various
BC2 just feels right in every way

>>267635790
I still play regularly and have good times.

>>267652006
>He doesn't know 1 RPG in the back of a tank disabled it straight away.
>Strapping 2-3 C4 on the tank will destroy it
>Laser Lock a tank and use Javelin to fire a rocket = Instant destroy
If you want Squad play ask a squad member to get on Recon class and start SOFLAM'in things and then ask another squad member to drop some ammo on you whilst your engineer class with the javelin
Wow you didn't play the game did you? You didn't play with team mates did you?

Post your stats.


Maybe BFBC2 is not the best Battlefield (that is without a question BF2142), but I had the most fun playing it, compared to others.

>motion sensor+USAS+extended ammo = carnage in CQC
>ragequit inducing combination M95+red dot
>heli huntin with AT4
>C4 throwing
Throwing a C4 through the window on the second floor never gets old. Or a mine in that matter.
>tagging sniper with a dart, then watching as the Rudolf tries to outrun the rocket.


BC2 >> BF3
I did't buy BF4.

>>267622158
BC2 so much fin killing everyone with the shotty

fuck usas fags though, i'll take your tags and piss on them

>>267652401
>No VOIP
>"Asking" squad members anything
>Implying tanks are the main problems in Jetfield

>>267622158
It's funny how not letting characters go prone can improve a game so much.

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>>267652473
Forgot pic

Also:
>hunting for dogtags.

>>267652547
There was an option in squad settings to change your VOIP you fucking idiot.
>Not playing with friends
>Jets
Simple to take down with a SOFLAM + Javelin, one shot destroy.
Ask another squadmate to spam stinger missiles so my Javelin hit every time.
Try again fggt

>play recon all the time
>constantly take out flags with close range onehits and pistol kills
>blow up approaching tanks and cars with c4
>snipe really far away enemies with the SV98 and no 12x
>snipe people out of moving cars
>always first of scoreboard by a large margin
Recon best class
Harvest day best map

>>267651907
Not the guy you were responding to, but BF3 was trash. I played it for a while, made it to rank 60.

My SPM was 569, not OMGAMAZING, but not utter shit.

I thought BF3 was trash. It didn't have the spirit of BF. It felt more like CoD.

>>267652841
>He didn't play conquests
Literally the best gamemode and actually felt like BF

>>267652791
>Recon best class
Yes, motion sensor is invaluable.
>Harvest day best map
That's not Oasis

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>>267652783
SOFLAM and all that shit is so annoying. Even just the sounds.

Quit the game, though, because medic trains are broken, and recon not getting motion mines or balanced backups without playing campaign

>Battlefield after 2142
>DICEA ever again

>>267635472
>always been a cod guy
>make the transition to bf because friends
>dominate everyone in infantry combat because of all those hours in cod
>now prefer bf over cod
you just have to learn the maps and where to position and all of a sudden it doesn't feel so slow anymore when u aren't running around the huge ass map finding people to shoot

>>267650509
Having the class that specializes in infantry killing and mobility being to able to refill it's own ammo at any time causes the only hindrance to it be health, which you can counteract with more skill then your opponents or numbers. That sounds fine expect for the fact that health would come back and the class synergy was tipped in Assault's favor. BF3 fixed that by changing classes roles to better reflect how the classes moved and played ingame or changing how certain weapons worked to force certain roles and better class synergy.

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>>267653205
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the motion sensor which is just OP
Oasis is where I go shotgun but I prefer the bigger mix of urban and open warfare of harvest day
Stats

>>267653232
Soflam was amazing as fuck.
I remember my mate getting the Tank perk for SOFLAM that gave the tank 3 slots instead of 2. Camped in a tank on the top of the hill with a guided shell and just laser destroyed everything.

>Oh no I have to play the campaign to get some drops.
Let me guess you're a COD baby and you prefer to just go on multiplayer and have everything handed to you.
What a casual

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>>267653512
>medic trains
Idea invalidated. A lot of the mechanics are broken, like 32 squad-spawning on 8; but assault can't then drive tanks effectively or have motion balls or real range. >Balance

>>267653638
>Here are some objective annoyances
>>It's amazing!
Post disregarded as saying nothing.

>>267642254
Camping wookies can be helpful if, AND ONLY IF, they do nothing but spot and drop mortar strikes. That isn't to say mobile wookie with Shotgun + Motion Sensor isn't better, but at least we can all agree that snipers are fucking useless cunts.

>>267653586
recon+USAS+extended mags+fast running is THE lodaout for me.

It's great combination, as you can see on this gameplay footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_f0UKwCNwg#t=20

>>267654095
>Being this buttblasted

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>>267654095
>>267654284
Also, 32 slots is a lot less chance for random spawnjunk. 64 requires decent map design, which the games don't supply (or decent spawn mechanisms)

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>>267654374
>BC2 wins best game just for having balanced slot count
It's true.

Bad company 2 had great Rush mode, but most of the conquest maps were flat out shitty. At least in Conquest BF4 does a far better job, although there are still turboshit conquest maps like Metro and Locker, plus overall quality of Rush is far worse.
Destruction was fucking amazing in BC and really lacks in BF3-4 too.

>>267622234
Agreed. I hit over 300 hours in BFBC2 with my bros, but we couldn't stand BF3 for more than 20 hours... and none of us picked up 4.

>>267635472
Fuck me, you dont even like video games
>cod is fast
jesus christ

>>267654578
Metro and Locker should be erased from rotation. Explosives Spam, camping galore, so sick of them.

>>267630365
>>Half of sounds still do not load. Most textures are lowres for the half of the match.
Honestly sounds like a toaster issue. It takes my game 15 seconds to catch up with shit textures at the start of the map. People with better PCs that I play with have same thing but it only takes them like 5-10

>>267654893
>Metro
>Im so sick of it
Sounds like you need to git gud

>>267645369
No not mustard shill, i just like good games not shitty ports.

Is BF4 really that bad? I need something to play on PS4

>>267655028
>Map rehashes are OK

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>>267631217
>agressive recon
>tfw saiga with a buckshot
>tfw dragonballs

That was an experience.

>>267645646
>Arma
But anon i want to play with smooth 60FPS not a slideshow.

>>267654578
>Metro
Oh god. Oh my fucking god.
Most populated servers are running this abomination.

Why? Whyyyy?

I heard that they ported it to BF4. Another quality decision.

>>267655170
Metro was an original map in BF3 m8.
What the fuck are you on about.

>>267633981
Hardline is the new mod for BF4, for only 60 dollars.
Don't you like paid mods anon?

>>267655251
>as if there isn't another game
>even asking about this
Still playing BC2 over these games, though

>>267622158
Bad company 2 was pretty damn fun.

Early BF3 was fun in a more serious way. I was trying to more tactical and serious to win, whereas bad company 2 was just good however I played it.

Late BF3 was a joke though. Fucking hated it. It kinda changed in the same way EA started to change from being decent to starting to publish loads of shit.

BF4 I never played but it looked like late BF3 but worse.

Bf 1942/1943 is where it's at

>>267654256
Yeah it's great on maps like that. Two other maps I like are African Harbor and Laguna Presa. The latter can turn into an one-sided stomp, but usually it's a constant circle-capturing of flags and good squad movements. Too bad I never find servers still regularly hosting it

I've played BC2 and BF3 with DLCs.

Honestly, it's all about plying with bros via voice chat. With that it didn't really matter which installment I've played.

Come about it however, I think both of these installments got its own valors to consider. At the beginning in BF3 I favored BC2, but I've got used to it. Number of the DLCs did present number of concepts which on regular cycle did make a great experience (close quarters mixed with big ass armored warfare).

However I did not play BF4. Is it good? I forgot about bros with which I was playing it on regular basis. I wonder if they are still playing it...

>>267654095
Oh I agree that medics are still to strong and would personally prefer if they were split off into a 5 class using PDWs or carbines. But giving healing and rezzing ablities to the class best suited to run around on the front lines works better then giving it a class that uses weapons designed for entrenched useage.


>>267654374
A lot of shitty spawn stuff is just the result of DICE not bothering to add line of sight breaks in front of spawn areas or checking enemy proximity when players are about to spawn. You know BF3/4 have 32 and 48 player servers, with scaled down conquest maps to fit the player count right?

BC2 was so fucking shit and basic.

>>267651210
I've never understood peoples complaints about sidearms in bf3/4 every time my mag is empty or I need a backup for CQB when I have a DMR as my primary its never been a bad experience.

>>267655508
>implying medics everywhere and as the forward class is OK
Trenches at least are about strategy and movement

Options doesn't detract from the idea that 64 is overfilled; and strategy there is without design

>>267655170
I admit I didn't play them yet, and I hope so, because, it's boring the explosives spam Metro used to be in BF3, whichever side you're on.
>>267655028
>git gud.
Metro is the prime example of gittin' gud makes no difference, I spent a round on the winning side sitting in a corner, doing nothing and saw my team obliberate the enemy defending only B.

I like Metro in Rush though.

>>267655948
>playing anything besides rush

>>267656102
Conquest is glorious, i don't know what are you talking about.

Besides, there are 1 server of Rush per 4 of Conquest big. Can't precisely choose.

>>267632792

That Vietnam add-on was the best DLC I've ever paid for

(actually it's the only one)

>>267625658
>Carl Gustav was the best portable anti-air weapon
That would be the AT4.

>>267655784
How are medics supposed to keep a team healed and revived if they aren't at the front? They need to be mobile to function well as a class. 64 players being too many depends entirely on the map, game mode, and how they were designed.

>>267656338
Oh I'm on 360 for BFBC2. Conquest is so boring compared to Rush. Rush is where it's at.
>tfw you get the bomb with 5 lives left

>>267648110

>HE'S CHEATING HE KILLED ME ACROSS THE MAP WITH A SHOTGUN

every time

>>267656412
IMHO Vietnam DLC has really bad maps. Lack of cover and limited destruction compared to vanilia ones. Overall the whole DLC feels like it was created by the team which was behind MoH.

>>267652991
I played mostly conquest.

It still didn't feel right. The game felt like an empty shell that had its soul ripped out.

>>267656505
Healing is support; if the standardized class that pushes also has heals, it's trash meta

>>267656412
Getting my ass lit up by NVA only to have a tank roll by and clear them out, all while blasting beach tunes is something of a surreal experience.

>>267655206
Why? It's linear. Children and casuals love FPS games that don't require much effort or thought.

>>267650509
>>267652085
It was also one of the most beneficial parts of BC2.
Indestructible MCOMs are creating some really wacky balance. Now everyone is forced into desperate super close range encounters on top of mcom and the team that has more machineguns and grenades can just lock down the whole place. (which usually happens to be a defending team since they have to run less)
A lot of Rush games basically play out like Metro/Locker right now - if you got the right position and got into the spot first, you are wining by spamming. Way too often i seen either of the teams making it past the first set of points and the map never advances.

DICE really should have considered some alternative ways to take out MCOMs to fix the balance.

Also, I personally that on maps like Arica the combat during first stages provide a nice, different experience and mixed things up.

>>267633961
Playing Splatoon.

>>267649439
Did they actually fix the netcode like they claim?

BFBC2 was so fucking boring online. It was just infantry only there was hardly any vehicle combat which BF is known for. BF3 got it right with the vehicle combat and infantry combat.

>>267622158
didnt we have this same thread yesterday, with the exact same picture
>>267647236
didnt you post this exact same thing in the last thread

>>267652085

If you're in an area that's off limits to the enemy and you damage an mcom, you immediately suicide.

Bam fixed your broken game.

>>267657339
actually people seem to be posting the exact same pictures too

is this a thread simulation?

>>267657119
>Way too often i seen either of the teams
Neither
>Also, I personally
feel

Goddamnit. Why do I never notice this shit before posting.

>>267657339
>>267657650
>Reposting isn't OK

>>267656523
Oh yeah, BC2 is absolutely for Rush.
I meant Metro (BF3) In conquest sucks.
And it's BF3 that I play in conquest Big.
BC2 it's all about Rush.

>>267622158
Battlefield Vietnam > Battlefield 2 > Rest

>>267658186
Nothing like going Rambo with the M60 and an AT4 in Flaming Dart.

do people still play battlefield 2 on pc?

was thinking about reinstalling if anyone was still on

>>267658616
Last time I checked, yes. They also keep spamming spot messages.

>>267658616
There's project Reality for one thing, but BF2 is officially over I think. Gamespy no longer gives any support, and I'm not sure there are custom servers.

>that one xbot friend who never played BF2 and keeps calling BFBC2 "battlefield 2"

>>267645646
Quake is kill
Op and arma are shit and riddled with kids respectively
Cs is kill after source.

Is Vietnam still alive on PS3?

>>267659372
I wish I knew, for one thing, 1943 is alive and kicking, so that one must also be alive.
Though I hardly know.

>>267651123
Take that shit back. Jets and big maps are awesome.

No other game does it that well in a similar manner.

I thought the infantry combat and guns felt a lot better in BC2. The maps were good too.

Fuck, BC3 when?

>>267656102
>rush

Console plebs like you is what are trying to ruin BF.

Proper BF is a big ass map with jets and tanks, infantry fight areas and the freedom to go capture whatever you want.

Not a clusterfuck concentrated on 2 spots.

>>267659476
Not sure, isn't 1943 free though? Don't know if it's still worth getting Vietnam for PS3 anymore

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Am I the only one that's loving Classic mode to death on the new BF4 patch?

It made the game almost as good as BF2, if not better!

>>267658941

whats project reality?

>>267660765
What does that do?

>>267660637
It's not free, it's digital only.

I can't help you with Nam, but I'm also interested in knowing.

>>267660513
Shut your elitist shitposting asshole.

>tfw no qt 3.14 2142 titan mode

>>267660765
Combined with the other CTE changes it's amazing.

>>267660843
BF2 Mod, aimed for realism (duh) with better weaponry and 120 players.

But if you don't find joy in 5 minutes of anticipation before 1 minute top of shooting, then it may not be your cup of tea.

Good thing is, it doesn't overwrite anything in Vanilla game, so you can have both with no issues.

>>267660513
>Proper BF is a big ass map with jets
never gave two shits about the planes, especially when their counter part, AA, was always weak and lackluster to give even the shitties of pilots a chance to survive

>>267624149
The Vietnam explosion is pretty badly balanced.
I mean, it's accurate, but pretty realistic in terms of maps giving huge advantages to one side.

>>267660862
No 3D spotting (that means no doritos, you can only see spots on the minimap)
Full mag reload (never got why they removed this from BF)
Friendly fire
Only squad leader spawn
No retarded 3P cam
No retarded killcam
No fucking auto-heal/auto-repair (never got why this Halo/COD shit was added either)

It's been glorious since this last patch!

>>267661475
is the netcode any better?

>>267661235
AA is very powerful now.

>>267661475
Never really got much problems with the netcode, but they say it's much improved, yes.

>>267661604
A fucking lot, trust me on that one.

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>>267622158

BF4 > BF3 > BFBC2 = BF2 > BFBC > BF1942 > BF1943

>>267661797
i'll fire up BF4 and if I find that you're lying, im coming for you ass

>>267625658
I think that's why I never played Recon in BF3, no c4. It was crucial to being a good recon.

Blowing up buildings with people in after sniping one of them, taking out a tank while sniping someone on the other side of the map.

There was a few recons that played the game fast, actually doing recon and taking out people everywhere.

I miss BC2.

>>267661323

>explosion

>>267627078
Fuck you, CG user

>>267632038
>>267630746
>>267628683
Personally, I loved the m9.

>>267661887
Make sure you play classic mode only.

Otherwise go play some fast paced arena shooter.

>>267662058
M9 was good, I found the rate of fire of the Mp443 better tho

>tfw BC1 was the last battlefield game with the MEC faction

Why did they remove them anyway?

>>267661921
You know snipers have C4 on BF4, right?

Even thought I feel it's retarded for a sniper to have C4.

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>mfw there is never going to be another battlefield game with the Karl Gustav in it

>>267662239
Oh yeah, I platinumed both I think.

>>267661979
Haha, oh man. I'm kind of depressed and on some new pills and these are fucking up my mind.

I meant maps, I have no fucking idea where explosion came from.

>>267662341
Oh really...? Interesting.

Probably a stupid question but is Premium worth getting for BF4?

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>>267661475
That does sound tempting, I'm not gonna lie. Still, that something that would attract only old BF players, right? Do people actually play it? BF3 was filled with teenagers.

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>>267661887
Tickrates:

CSS: 128
CS:GO: 64
Cawwadooty: 30
BF3: 20
BF4: 10

>BF4 will never be good

>>267652085
See, and I enjoy that (except for the ones where you don't have to leave the spawn).

It gives another way to complete the objective, it makes it more fun

>>267662939
Yes, that only attracts BF players. That's why it's amazing.

There are quite a few full servers, so all's good.

Man, even those Metro and Lockers retarded maps become acceptable with those rules because people can't grenade and bullet spam as much anymore.

>>267662212
maybe its because im playing on a 42 player server, but im enjoying this way more then regular or hardcore

bad company 2, bf3 and bf4 are much much much better games in hardcore mode, no faggot killcam, no faggot health regen, no faggot map, its amazing, people actually die with 3 shots from a assault rifle, everyone should at least try a few rounds, it shits all over the casual shit the normal made has turned into since bf2

>>267662949
Tickrate isn't everything considering quake 3 arena ran at 20 and quake live at 40.

That game had godly netcode though.

Still disappointing to see csgo competative tickrate is not at 128.

is the game populated on pc?

I'm fed up with battlelog, and with bf3 lagging like shit every day on burgerland servers.

>>267662949
I play CS:GO with 256 tick servers, this is neat.

>>267663325
>im enjoying this way more then regular or hardcore
Naturally, it's the ruleset that made Battlefield so good back then.

>>267663362
Go give Classic mode a try too. It's my fav.

bc2 was alot better, and also had the vietnam dlc which didn't actually suck dick
>bf4/3
>premium
>good idea
i spilled my keks

>>267661887
My body is ready!

Now, in all seriousness, I don't get killed behind cover anymore, I heard it still happens though, and there's that thing of having a tickrate of 30 within a certain range, so snipers will get 10 updates per second like always.

Still, more playable than ever, but this comes from a guy who doesn't have Premium, and hence no CTE experience.

Fucking loved slugs in BC2. I was showing my friends who never tried battlefield. We saw a guy running about 40 meters away and I said "Watch this" and dropped him. My friends lost their shit about the longer ranged fighting that even shotguns had.

VSS was king. It did everything.

>garand engineer hit squads

man I miss it

>>267645646
>awp: the game
>silky smooth 15 fps
>actually a good game
>LOOK AT ME RAILGUNNING THIS GUY OVER THERE IM SO SKILLED FUCK YOUR CS LEL :DDDDDD
yeah no, bc2 all the way

I miss playing BC 2 with friends. I would always be the dedicated medic and mow people down with the grossly over powered LMGs.

I want to like BF4, but it just feels kind of bland and I can't go one game without sperglords who spam chat every time I kill them.

Quick question about BF4, did they nerf the LMG bipods? I remember that being one the worse things about BF3.

>>267664354
>awp: the game
git gud

>silky smooth 15 fps
you cannot possibly be serious

>actually a good game
git gud

>LOOK AT ME RAILGUNNING THIS GUY OVER THERE IM SO SKILLED FUCK YOUR CS LEL :DDDDDD

And, git gud

Anything else?

>>267647525
Oh shit anon. I forgot about how much fun AT mines were. Hiding a massive pile of them in non-obvious places was awesome. Almost as much fun as killing people with smoke grenades.

Recon in BC2 could actually provide support from afar and take out tanks that were shooting at the squad.

>>267655206
If you ever felt a need, go there.

It was a cluster though. I would just claim a hallway and encourage my teammates to flank. LMG or explosive shotty wrecks

>>267665120
Way more fun to go shotgun/sensor recon

the rifles were pretty great though. I absolutely adored the GOL

>>267665348
>GOL
My favorite too, although the M24 was used a lot too.

>>267665348
>tfw I'm shotgunning recon right now

>>267664793
>sperglords who spam chat every time I kill them

Am I the only one that doesn't even notice the chat exists 99% of the time?

>>267661879
2bait4me

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>>267665576
feels good

what do you roll? I usually roll saiga because I love the saiga

>>267663420

Anyone?

I'm starving for some battlefield action and fed up with lens glare supernova simulator

>Grab C4 and buggy
>Ram into enemy tank
>Enemy flips his shit

Admiral Ackbar!

>>267665576
>>267665848
People who say recon has weak CQC don't know shit.

Dragonballs are OP, and C4's are like super nades.

>>267661475

>Full mag reload (never got why they removed this from BF)

I felt this way too but honestly there are so many support ammo bags around you rarely actually run out of ammo. If ammo was in shorter supply then the full mag reload would make sense.

>>267659003
It's too bad that never happens.

>>267665848
Just started playing again because it got free on xbox live. Had to start over because of a new gamertag. Using the 870MCS. I like pump actions.

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>mfw 2142 servers are dead

>>267622158
loved BC2

>>267666154
People who say recon have weak cqc are people that play support and have no idea how positioning works when you run and gun. They also cannot aim for shit.

>>267666256
870 is great so it's not really a bad thing. I loved using the spas as well.

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>>267666328
>they will never make another 2142
>even if they do it will be shit

I actually think a part of me has died forever

>>267666220
With full mag reload I've run out of ammo a few times already.

It really makes you think twice and look at your remaining bullets before a reload, but are usually enough, yes.

>>267666557
It's pretty much sure they're making a 2143, after all those teasers in the last DLC.

>>267666557
>>267666328
>see the trailer of 2142 for the first time
>you raid enemy's base, kaboom shit, there are robots and things
you've got no idea how hyped i was for first time
i mean, seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM

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>>267666852
The first time I played a titan match was the last time I'd ever be fully satisfied with any gamemode ever again.

>>267666831
They're going to fuck it up. I can't get hyped man. They are just going to let me down and I'll feel even worse then before

>>267653509
>you just have to learn the maps and where to position yourself and all of a sudden it doesn't feel so slow anymore when u aren't running around the huge ass map finding people to shoot.

true dat, knowledge is power my friends.

>bc2
>can rockclimb like crazy
>bf4
>have trouble jumping over a fucking fallen tree

for all the "good" this reactive cover jumping bullshit is suppose to be, id take just regular jump over it anytime.
the amount of times I've either died or failed on a good change to sneak up on someone repairing their tank thanks to the jumping system in bf4 is staggering

>>267665576
what are you playing on?

>>267667096
>They're going to fuck it up

Gotta agree. But looking on the bright side, with the classic mode of the last BF4 patch, they made it almost as good as BF2, so there is hope.

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>>267667096
>mfw they'll probably add premium and ten gorillion dlcs to 2143
something is dying inside of me when i think about that
it hurts

>>267667305
360

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>>267667383
>they are going to make a future version of metro because it's so popular and put a shitload of work into that shitty map instead of making more titan maps

Remember the patch that made the Carl Gustav the best weapon to kill anything? Matches just became Gustav slinging fights.

BFBC2 and I can give you a bunch of reason's but every reason I give still doesn't give an accurate discription of why I liked it more

>less perks
>less attachments
>maps felt better sized for console's except for heavy metal
>no hallway shooter maps, most of the maps are pretty expansive

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>>267667096
>Carrier Assault
>this could be good
>the game just ends when you shoot bullets at the core
>none of the 2142 soul
How fucking lazy can you get

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>>267654174
yeah when there's like 2-3 per team, not per squad.

>>267668020
It's because the titans were actually designed really well even though they had the most obvious choke points of all time.

It usually came down to you spraying at a black window for 10 minutes and chucking grenades up there but it really felt like an actual struggle.

BC2 vs BF3 and 4 is a perfect case of less is more. The newer battlefield games are so crammed with attachments and vehicle upgrades that it becomes a huge clusterfuck to play.

>>267668009
>maps felt better sized for console's

Yes, it was a console game. They shouldn't even name it Battlefield. They could've made a new franchise.

>>267668154
>hardcore
>saiga, explosive upgrade, shotgun ammo upgrade, c4
>runnin and gunnin
>action action time
>if getting fucked by snipers, play sniper sniper class

Its funny when so many people have gotten bc2 for free and I see there one gold star on snipers. Got killed as a defender on innocetas, grabbed a rifle, found and killed 3 snipers on the island in less then 2 minutes.

>>267668009
>console's

Too bad they don't have a single map designer worth a shit. All this level design technology but the fundamentals are dogshit. ANY BF2 map and most 2142 maps blow all BF3/4 maps out of the water.

All three are shit, play BC1.

>>267622158
Bad company 2 was the last great battlefield

3 and 4 are just call of duty in big maps

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>Based raifu

>>267668530
>>267668669
I ain't gonna lie I haven't invested a whole lot of time in bc2 for pc. Have played it a couple times back when computer-lan place was still open. Thought it was fun, I just guess my pleb enjoyed bc2 more.

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>>267668737
Even the smaller more rudamentary 2142 maps were still amazing

>>267623974
I honestly believe prone is one of the things that didnt belong.
Prone in a video game for me is like adding press square to jason. It just doesnt belong unless you are playing a hardcore sim like arma or red orchestra

>>267668842

Yeah no. first bad company was the last great battlefield. BC2 was the first big step in the wrong direction.

>>267655358
>BF 1943

Not very many maps but tons of fun to play, even if aeroplanes are op

>>267667096
>The difference between 2143 and the Star Wars game is lightsabers.

>>267668842
>3 and 4 are just call of duty in big maps

That's ironic, since it was BC2 that introduced all the COD and console bullshit in Battlefield.

BF2 and 2142 were the best BFs.

>>267661921
Motion censors, close combat weapons, c4, bc2 recon was best without a sniper rifle.

>>267665594
>I disagree, so this must be a troll
How pathetic, you must be from Twitter

BF2