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Is Dedede even really a bad guy?
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Is Dedede even really a bad guy?
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He did try to have a boxing match against Kirby when he is clearly in a higher weight class
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He's just kind of a dick.
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No, he's like Wario: greedy and egotistical, but not evil.
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>>267157767
Only in Dreamland.
Every other game you fight him he's possessed or actually the good guy.
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>>267158289
Pretty much this. He's never done anything completely evil of his own free will, the worst he did was steal all the food in Dream Land, and that was only once. After that, the only times he fought Kirby was if he was possessed, Kirby falsely accused him of something, or if he actually had good intentions.
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>>267158235
With all Kirby eats I'm sure he's in his own weight class.
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When can we finally get some diversity in Kirby games?
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Meta Knight legitimately looks like something a deviantard would draw

>le edgy kirby
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>>267159104
Will the next Kirby have the first black waddle dee?
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>>267159104
Play mass attack or canvas cruise or epic yarn if you want something different.
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>>267159290
I just hope they have at least a gay character
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>>267158362
>implying
Wario is actually evil, and also greddy and egotistical
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>>267159194
know my power..........
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>>267159104
Meta Knights pretty much a nigger Kirby, the color palette in smash more or less confirms it.
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>>267159397
Well there's kirby.
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>>267159339
>canvas cruise
Ayyy
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>>267159549
They should show him getting in bed with Meta Knight in a respectable relationship and raising a baby
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Who is objectively the most powerful Nintendo "villain"? Where would Dedede rank?
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>>267159548
>the color palette
>not breaking his fucking mask in Super Star
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>>267159657
Stop posting.
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>>267159627
http://youtu.be/jpkeAQG6kQw
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I think, he like princess bubblegu. but he is not smart.
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>>267159770
probably ganondorf or medusa

maybe mewtwo if he really counts as a villain
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>>267159549
He's not really kissing his partner. He's puking pre-chewed food into their mouths for their own health.

come to think of it that might be worse
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>>267159770

Zanza
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>>267159419
>Wario
>Evil

Pick one. He's just greedy and selfish. He puts money and garlic above all things, including women. If he's evil then everyone who works with him at his microgames company is evil.
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>>267159829
Wasn't he more of a blueish color in the kirby games with sprites? Honestly can't remember.
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>>267159534
I love that line so much and I love hearing it as the screen goes dark, it's just so fucking cool.
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>>267160039
>big man corporate businesses
>NOT evil
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>>267159290
Waddle Doo
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come on guys, 25 years, is pretty clear he is an anti hero.
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>>267157767
To the casual Nintendo enthusiast, he can be easily classified as a villain.

Note the word "casual".
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>>267160062
In pretty much every appearance metaknight is very blue. In Kirby's adventure, his first appearance, he's black as knight.
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>>267159770
Gygas

Dedede would probably rank pretty high if he can get his ass kicked by motherfucking Kirby that many times and not die.
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>>267159770
jerginga
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>>267159627
I loved that line when I first read it. Kirby characters are great
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>>267157767
Is Dedede even a big guy?
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>>267160039
Putting money above the lives of others is what most people would consider evil. Just because he doesn't come up with schemes to take over the world doesn't mean he isn't evil if he'd even steal from his "friends".
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>>267160039
http://youtu.be/VUu0hy8Aa6E

He and Waluigi get pissed because they lost a game of TENNIS, team up with Bowser, lose again, and then they try to bomb the shit out of Mario and company. He's tOTALLY not evil, not at all.
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>>267160728
For Waddle Doo.
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>>267159989
I thought Samurai confirmed that it was a kiss
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>>267160573

If we're going that route isn't Wario canon immortal since Wario Land 2 or some shit?
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>>267159770
hades
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He is the Daffy Duck of Popstar.
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>>267159770

Can someone tell me who is the:

Woman on the left?
Wolf on the right?
Medusa I guess is from Kid Icarus 'cause it's the same theme?
The thing in the red coat on the left?
Is the toad king supposed to be the one from SMB2? What's up with the eyes?
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>>267161019
>Wolf on the right?
You literally just said his name.
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>>267160774
So he goes to extremes for revenge. Plenty of heroes do the same. Bowser may have put the toads in blocks, but mario is the one who smashed them.
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>>267159770
> Mewtwo
> Villain

The Anime is non canon.
The real Mewtwo is just a highly intelligent ferocious beast who just keeps to himself.
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>>267160106
>Actually believing this
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>>267161019
>The thing in the red coat on the left?

Are you stupid?
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>>267161019
>Woman on the left?
Captain Syrup.

>Wolf on the right?
Anon.. you just said his fucking name I don't need to describe that.

>Medusa I guess is from Kid Icarus 'cause it's the same theme?
Bing bong.

>The thing in the red coat on the left?
HOLY SHIT SCROLL UP TO THE OP

>Is the toad king supposed to be the one from SMB2? What's up with the eyes?
Wart. Yes. muh art style.
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>>267161019
>Woman on the left?
I believe that's a pirate from one of the Wario games

>Is the toad king supposed to be the one from SMB2? What's up with the eyes?

That's King K. Rool from Donkey Kong Country
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>>267161019
>Woman on the left?
Pious Agustus

>Wolf on the right?
Star Wolf

>Medusa I guess is from Kid Icarus 'cause it's the same theme?
Yes

>The thing in the red coat on the left?
Dedede.

>Is the toad king supposed to be the one from SMB2? What's up with the eyes?
Those are bubbles.
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>>267161019
>Wolf on the right?
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>>267161208
He's swearing revenge over a game of tennis, and tries to kill everyone over it.
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>>267160863
He got a life bar back in WL4, actually.
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He was trying to stop Kirby from getting that Star Rod to prevent evil shit (thus protecting people and Kirby) so I think he's good at heart but like someone else said kind of a little bit of a dick, almost like he's oblivious to it
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>>267158436
The fuck did you just say? He didn't "steal" anything. When the king decrees that the taxes shall be raised the taxes SHALL be raised. He was simply taking his rightful dues as ruler of Dreamland.
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>>267157767
HOW CAN I HELP YOU, KING DEDEDE?
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>>267159104
I'm getting so fucking tired of the 2.5D man

I haven't even bought Triple Deluxe because of it, it's a series that just needs to have a unique artstyle for me, Epic Yarn looked nice but even that I don't think captured the look somehow. Too different
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>>267159770
Bowser or Hades, both are apparently immortal
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>>267162220
I NEED A MONSTAH TO CLOBBAH DAT KIRBY
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>>267161801

Welp. I still need to play that actually.
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>>267160039
>I only played WarioWare!
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>>267159770
Honestly? Probably Bowser. He's played for jokes a lot, but that guy got punched through the center of the universe and survived with not so much as a scratch.

Hades, Medusa, and Giygas would all be in the running too, I'd think. Maybe Andross too.
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>>267159770
What a twist
Who is objectively the most powerful Nintendo hero? Where would Kirby rank?
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>>267158387
In Dreamland he was just trying to save all the food from Kirby so his people wouldn't starve.
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>>267162617
Please name a Wario game post-Wario Land where he actually does something evil.
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>>267162617
>I'm still a virgin!

This is what your post says. Kek. This is exactly the problem with "gamers" and why this demographic needs to die.
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>>267163005
This one time in Mario Kart wario bumped me off the track for no reason man.
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Is Waluigi more of a "villain" than Wario at this point?
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>>267163049
>not being a virgin
Just look at this casual.
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>>267163093
Shit, I guess that settles it, Wario is worse than Hitler and Stalin combined.
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>>267163126
Waluigi isn't canon, so his moral compass is irrelevant.
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>>267163049

>2014
>having contact with women
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>>267162998
Pit would probably be the strongest, or possibly fully-powered Samus.

Kirby would be up there, but he's not as strong as people on this site make out in my opinion.

Young Hero of Time Link (Majora's Mask) is pretty strong too, especially if he has access to FD Mask.

Also I don't know if Wario counts as a hero or not, but that guys fucking strong. Like, Popeye levels of strong.
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>>267159339
>canvas curse or epic yarn
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>>267163365
Wario is officially an anti-hero, he could count for either side.
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>>267163260
I don't think any Mario game is canon. I think it just is.
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>>267163126
Maybe if he was in an actual game and not just an extra for Mario spin-offs
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>>267163578
>not knowing about the mario lore
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>Smash makes him sound like some retarded dinosaur for some reason
>it doesn't use the voice actor for the american Kirby anime dub

WHY
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>>267160774
in a land where 1-Up mushrooms exist and death for those two is at worst an inconvenience is it really that bad
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>>267163861
Sakurai voices Dedede himself, so that probably tells you a lot about what he thinks of the Kirby dub.
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>>267163861
I thought those were just whoosh sound effects.
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>>267158289
Accuracy at its finest.
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>>267163861
Except the voice is more than good for him, way better than the voice actor in the anime.
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>>267158289
He doesn't have one, he gotta make up for it
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>>267163861

Same reason DK and Diddy don't have their DKC cartoon voices
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>>267164000
>way better than the voice actor in the anime.

I NEED A REPLY TO CLOBBAH DAT DAIR SHITPOSTER
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>>267163823
Lore can be lore without being canon

All of Metroid's lore is proof of that thanks to Other M
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>>267159770
Either Hades or Jerginga (TW101) are the stongest
Dedede gets props for having the courage to face Kirby.
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>>267163861
Which is especially bad since Meta Knight and Kirby had their Jap voices in the past games.
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>>267157767
Nobody in Kirby is evil. Not even the crazy archdemon monsters are really evil.
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>>267164747
Then why do they fight?
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>>267164876
Kirby hits first and asks questions later.
Kirby is a little shit.
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>>267163861
Imagine spamming "SURELY YER JESTIN"
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>>267163861
I would hate this
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>>267164876
Kirby's fucking pissed, that's why.
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>>267159290
Dedede is black, check out those big nigger lips.
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>>267163861
It's almost like you don't like the demonic sounds Dedede makes.
It's one of the only good things Sakurai makes.
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>tfw we will never get Air Ride 2
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Isn't Meta Knight a beaner?
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Victory............
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>>267158387
In dreamland he wanted to stop kirby because an ancient evil awakens

he helps in towards the en
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>>267159962
I dunno, in every anime he shows up in, he's an escaped super mutant bent on wiping out something or other. In the games he really just sits tight in a cave and waits to be captured. Fucking Drifloon is more of a villainous pokemon than Mewtwo.
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>>267164219
they turned a big tough creature character into like some weird western fucker with a snail friend it has no place in his actual video game character
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>>267158436
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Return of the King from KSSU the one exception to the "possessed, accusation, good intention" rule?
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>>267165864
>Triple D
>tough
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>>267165773
uh, no
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>>267165905
ye, that and kirby's dreamland
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>>267166128
he has the balls to fight Kirby and a big hammer
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>>267165905
That one I'd say is just a little bout with kirby, rivalry as supposed to trying to be mean
i mean, its his revenge since Dedede is self centered, but he didn't steal or kill anyone, just sent his people at kirby then fought him himself
Same for fighters deluxe, poor guy just wants to win once to feel like he's worth a shit
>Energized by the Fountain of Dreams, the original king is here with his team in tow, ready to cause some ruckus! He's hoping his royal pride and some solid teamwork will help him feel like a final boss once again!
>The king is back, looking for a last shot at revenge. His team members may be miniature, but they sure mean business! "Hey! You pesky pink puffball! Are you ready for a team battle? Then let's go!"

>>267166298
Return of the king is separate form dream land/spring breeze, arguably Dedede's revenge for those events
Even has a little story about his revenge and nothing to do with stealing food
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>>267166298
Don't forget about Revenge of the King in Super Star Ultra.
Spring Breeze doesn't count, since it's just a retelling of Dreamland.
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>>267166461
>>267166298
woops ignore my comment, I read
>that's kirby's dreamland

>>267166481
he said "that", as in RotK, and dream land
all sorts of confusion, we need to learn to read
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>>267166587
"Return" of The King had me confused, sorry.
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is meta knight more evil than dedede, even if he regularly fights for good? basing this off of revenge of meta knight
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>>267166948
Meta Knight is the actual anti-hero
People don't even know what anti-hero means.
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>>267166948
Meta Knight was looking to control Dream Land for the better, as some sort of martial law thing. But outside of that one scenario, he's been nothing but a hero towards Kirby aside from the few rivalry battles.
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I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabby-

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Why is Dedede so evil in the anime and so different in the games if Sakurai worked for them both?
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>>267167506
Obviously the anime takes place before the games.
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>>267167219
He didn't want everyone to be fat lazy slobs so he sought to take over.
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>>267167506
The ddd in the anime is actually dark dedede
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>>267166948
Revenge of meta knight just fucks his character up since its the only time he ever deliberately acts evil like that with no honor or knight intentions, okay maybe dream land was lazy, but sending a warship at a peaceful place sure ain't gonna help. Any other time he's good or trying to test kirby or himself.

I really wonder what sakurai was thinking when he made RoMK's story, considering the character he sets him up as, specially in the anime
At least he's still decent enough to give you a sword, but not decent enough to accept defeat and not chase you as you try to escape
Did someone shove a stick up his ass that morning?
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>>267167845
Wasn't it like MK's first appearance in the games? Maybe he was set up to be a villain but Sakurai thought that having him as a cool mentor would be better.
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WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET SOME MORE KIRBY REPS
>NO BANDANA DEE
>NO SAILOR DEE
>NO PARASOL DEE
>NO WHISPY WOODS
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>>267167845
Kirby Super Star destroyed everyone's character.
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>>267168040
KSS was his second appearance.
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>>267167845
He just really really hates lazy people.
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>>267168040
Nah, he showed up in adventure first, where he's helping Dedede protect the fountian of dreams, and gives you a sword for a fair challenge, then runs away after his face is exposed
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>>267168396
Maybe that's what gave him the power to defeat Galacta Knight, fucker was sleeping in a rock for countless years on his fat lazy ass, needed to be put in his place
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>>267168415
He also randomly shows up and gives you an invincibility lollipop a few times and gets his knights to attack you.

I think he may have a split personality or something
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>>267168794
Nintendo confirmed for shit writers
>BREAKING NEWS
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>>267159770
Good god that artwork is awful.
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>>267159104
>>267162325
Next title is back to Canavas Curse.
Kirby has normal plataforming, Canavas Curse, Air Race, Mass Attack, Epic Yarn, Pinball and fucking Tilt 'n' Rumble. It varies a whole fucking lot.
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>>267170351
all old games and yarn is shit
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>>267170436
That's not true
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Is there a better piece of Nintendo music than Dedede's theme? I think not.
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>>267167845
I though meta knight was enacting a coup against dedede in revenge of meta knight.
Dedede is a fucking hedonist lazy shit, but he does have an army and total control over dreamland
Meta Knight probably was trying to take over, because he thought he could do it better.
Kirby whips his ass because he doesnt know better, and thinks Dedede is his friend.
After that, Meta Knight relegates himself to training and keeping an eye on Kirby because he is a force to be reckoned with.
He gives up trying to over throw the king because Dedede is mostly harmless.
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>>267170351
No, not really. Adventure is probably the most impressive NES title, shit is absolutely crazy and aged like the best of wines.
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>>267170531
With Adventure and Dream Land's soundtracks, the series has got some of the best songs of any franchise under its belt
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>>267170841
Oops, meant to >>267170436.
Yarn is also not shit, amazing asthetics, graphics, art direction, soundtrack and gameplay/pacing in general. It's not a regular plataformer in the sense where you must play with skill, it's only about exploring.
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>>267163384

u talkin shit bout canvas curse and epic yarn m8?
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>>267159194
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>>267170531
yes, masked dedede's theme
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>>267159548
>blue
>nigger

what?
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Press L when selecting the Dream Land stage to have it in black and white
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>>267163005
Wario once stuck a magic bucket on Mario's head and tossed him in the woods to fend for himself, blind and alone.
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>>267157767
no
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>>267162617

There's actually something in the first WarioWare that kinda contradicts one of his sentences in a way when you consider the order it was put in in his last stage.
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>>267174276
Wait a second. Is he eating that?
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>>267174775
yes
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>>267174775

Fuck, who knows, but Nintendo is awfully fond of throwing hints. At the very least, not involved in that way but do have feelings for each other.
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>>267172271
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Sakurai seems to have a really unique approach to villains...

You can see this in SSE (where every Nintendo villain ends up going good) and even Kid Icarus, where the characters seem to have a fluid level of morality. Even Hades comes across as a "good guy" at times.
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>>267163861
because 4kids voice actors are unionized? I don't know if that's the proper term. All I know is that if they're with 4kids they can't voice in non 4kids stuff I'm not sure about Sean Schemmel and Mike Pollock though. Maybe they just do 4kids stuff on the side
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I wish Kirby would actually do something interesting with its main series in the near future.
I like the games but I'm getting sick of them either being a retread of Kirby's Adventure, with practically no changes despite the game being over 20 years old, or just slapping the brand onto an IP idea that Nintendo didn't have confidence in like Epic Yarn or Mass Attack. It's been moving sideways or just not at all for the past 3 or 4 console generations instead of moving forward.

I know the series really doesn't have a bad game, but that's not hard to accomplish when it's as unambitious as it is right now.
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He's not a bad guy
He's JUST DESIGNED THAT WAY
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>>267159770
Zanza or Hades
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Dedede is a jerk, there's no questioning that, but why exactly is Dedede such a jerk?
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>>267179523
his father never hugged him
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>>267179523

he's the king
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>>267165656
>smash has all those elements from air ride in it
im still hoping
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>>267180006
Yeah and I'm still hoping for a TWEWY sequel and localized Dragon Quest, and worst of all, localized Super Robot Wars, but that doesn't mean it'll happen any time this century.
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>>267172498
I must've missed that one...
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>>267180532
>localized Super Robot Wars

You could learn enough Japanese to understand it before that ever happens.
That actually doesn't sound like a bad idea anymore.
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Brawl in the Family got me to like the guy.
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