TES Lore Thread

>>263629196
>Bretons
>worst race

Are you sure you didn't want to type Bosmer?

>>263629342
No, that was pretty deliberate. Bosmer are at least interesting.

>Favorite NPC
Divayth Fyr
>Favorite book
Silence
>Lorkhan or are you a bitch-ass nigga?
Of course Lorkhan
>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
Trying to kill me is fucking wrong if nothing else.

>>263629610
Tree niggers are interesting?
sure thing, mate.

But back to topic.

>NPC
Sheo (TES 4)

>Book
Lusty Argonian Maid

>Lorkhan
no, i'm a bitch-ass nigga

Miraak was a cool guy, yes.

>>263630026
I don't mer, but they're kind of cute with their inquisitiveness and politeness. The Green Pact is also kind of intriguing, if not disturbing.

Bretons are gay and have mer blood and want to be considered mer but are men too so the mer don't like them and so neither do other humans.

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>>263629196
>Favorite NPC
Pelinal.
>Favorite book
Can't remember any others by name, so Song of Pelinal.
>Lorkhan or are you a bitch-ass nigga?
Lorkhan of course.
>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
Never got around to buying it because I didn't want to reinstall all ~30gb of my mods.

>>263630026
>Tree niggers are interesting?
>sure thing, mate.
Everyone are interesting in the lore. (Except the Bretons).

>>263630546
>>263630740

Bretons are the French of TES.
Want to be loved so hard that everyone hates them instead.

Ask a self-proclaimed loremaster anything
I'll do my best to answer, I think I just figured out the Anuad

>>263629196
Haven't played TESO but anything from it canon or is it still shitting all over the lore?

>>263630964
What's Amaranth again?

>>263630964
Where did Felldir get the Elder Scroll?

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>>263631003
TESO has been confirmed to be completely non-canon by Howard himself.

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>>263630740
>>Favorite NPC
>Pelinal.
Yeah brah.

>>263631003
Not canon, disregard.

>>263630964
Why can't the player loot the Emperor in TES 4?
Is his corpes cursed?

>>263631003
TES:O devs say it is canon, Bethesda is trying to ignore that this game even exists.
Do the same thing Bethesda does, and everything will be fine.

>>263629196
Reminder that Redguards are the masterrace.

>>263631023
Becoming a new dreamer for a whole new universe to take place in your head.

>>263631084
Never stated. What is known, though, is that almost all Elder Scrolls are copies of copies of copies of three original Elder Scrolls that were stored in White-Gold Tower at some point. One of them is broken for some reason.

Since he fought Alduin in the Merethic era, maybe those scrolls were easier to come by when time and space were just stabilised from their chaos before that.

>>263631326
>>263631150
Fortunately or unfortunately, Kirkbride says he has no problems with TESO lore, he's contributed some himself. And he's still in cahoots with Todd.

>>263631518
It's a power to surpass CHIM
Lazy devs

>>263631620
This raga gets it.

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>>263631620
>>263631839
Odd way to spell Nord/Khajiit/Argonian.

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>>263631150
>yfw TESO has more lorebooks than all previous games

>>263630740
Good luck, Pelinal!

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>>263632242
But are they any good?

>>263632081
>Nords
>Khajiits
>master race in any capacity

Argonians get respect however for dominating the Daedra however.

>>263632242
>implying any TES player cares about books

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>>263632535
The Khajit are fine, atleast inside their desert region.

>>263632081
Racists, Gypsie Cats and Lizards?
No, the master races are the black ones (Dunmer and Redguards)

>>263629196

>Favorite NPC
Talen-Jei

>Favourite book
>I don't know, I like them all

>>263631625
>Kirkbride has no problem witb TESO lore

Does he take into account the theory it is some Daedric prince's nightmare or mental prison or whatever that theory was?

>>263631150
When?

>>263632529
They're pretty good
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Book_of_Circles
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:The_Eight_Steps_of_Mummification

There's been a lot of Redguard stuff

>>263632854
I haven't seen him comment on that.
What is known though is that Online states that all memory on Nirn is stored in water, and later he confirmed he contributed that.

>>263632854
>Does he take into account the theory it is some Daedric prince's nightmare or mental prison or whatever that theory was?
That actually sounds like something he himself would write on a day when he's only slightly high.

>>263633052
>all memory in Nirn is stored in water

See, it is shit like that that makes TES interesting
TESO lore, if Kirkbride contributed a fair bit, sounds like it'd be Morrowind tier.
What we just need to do is have Bethesda fund another Kirkbride venture, and make him the lead writer of the next Elder Scrolls

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>>263632789
>Racists
I don't understand, this is a negative? How can master race exist then?

>Gypsie Cats
They do travel a lot yes, through time even.

>Lizards
The Hist chooses, it didn't choose the Dark Ones.

I'd take Throats & Blood Of All Apex Predators, space and time traveling cats and meta lizards over atomic swords anyday, as cool as that is.

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>>263630026
>Lusty Argonian Maid

>>263633343

>TESO lore, if Kirkbride contributed a fair bit, sounds like it'd be Morrowind tier.

Come the fuck on. Now TESO is Morrowind tier? Are you motherfuckers serious? After all the bashing and hating, now this?

>>263629196
CHIM is basically being aware of being part of a dream, right?
Being a CHIMer grants you access to all kind of powers, am i right?
Doesn't that mean that all gods achieved CHIM, whether Deadra or Aedra?

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>>263629196
I've read/watched a bunch on TESO and I don't care about it anymore, but out of the factions EBONHEART PACT is definitely the best.

That combo hooly dooly.

>>263633874
CHIM is basically a way of making the fact that you are playing a video game part of the lore
when you're using the console you're using CHIM

Bretons basically are a perfect race. They have no flaws of men or elfs. Who else can shower in dragon breath or swim in lava?

>>263633828
Things change, man. Gotta embrace that change. You're not a filthy stasis-loving Mer, are you?

>>263634242
So it's like being Neo in the Matrix movies?

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>>263634289
+ Pelinal + will correct your kind.

>>263634320
3spoopy5me

>>263634323

>Things change, man. Gotta embrace that change.

Ok where the fuck am I? Is this opposite day?

In one thread the Morrowind purists foam at the mouth whenever someone even mentions anything else and now this?

>>263634242
No, it has nothing to do with that.

>>263633874
CHIM is realising you're part of a dream, and thus everything and you are one and the same, but yet still being able to hold onto your identity and force yourself to exist. Usually if you try and attain CHIM you zero-sum because you can't handle the truth and just vanish out of reality, since you no longer believe you exist anymore. CHIM is when you love yourself enough to deny it and keep chugging on.

It's partly why all the people known to have CHIM are massive ducks. Vivec, Tiber Septim, possibly Lorkhan

>still haven't read C0DA
Am I going to be a lore retard forever now

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>>263634589
>massive ducks

>>263633828
>TESO lore
>lore

The game is shit. But if Kirkbride contributed even a tenth of what he did to Morrowind I'd be interested in reading TESO lore.
And no one changed their mind you ginormous niglet

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>>263629196
Guys order and crystals and order guys.
Guys.

You must become a fanatic of a god, aedra or daedra.
You get their blessings and power and immortality if you wish but can never leave their service.
Who do you choose?

>>263633874

CHIM is realizing you don't exist and yet you still exist by force of will. The tradeoff is that you stop giving a fuck. About anything. Since it isn't real.

It's an OK concept but people take it waaaay too seriously and expand it when it isn't needed.

>>263634769
i haven't either.
And i probably won't ever do it.
I enjoy the mundane part of lore (wars, rulers, invasions, political stuff, races, daedra).
The crazy Kirkbabby stuff never interested me.

>>263634462
Pelinal aint nuffin, also hes gay.
Regards, the Thalmor

>>263634969
Not really, there's a step beyond CHIM, finding the Amaranth. Vivec only got CHIM because he tried to get that and failed.

I always figured using CHIM required you to love whatever you're doing enough to do itfor its own sake. Hence why Vivec can't slap Dagoth Ur's shit but can trap and skullfuck Azura for revenge

>>263634769
Going to be a long while before it really becomes relevant.

>>263630740
I'm in love with Pelinal!

>>263635269
Say that to his face ELF not online see what happens

>>263635114

I'm kinda in the same boat.

I love the ES universe. I love the mystery and ambiguity of events and I love the fact that I can draw my own conclusions.

What Kirkbride wrote so long ago was great. But I hate him for what he's doing to the series. And not even the series, mostly the fans since what he writes is fanfiction. Too much of his writing is just 2deep4u and 2smart4u without real substance. It's just complicated for the sake of being complicated.

>>263635347
How do you find the Amaranth and what happens when you do?

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>>263635269
>>263635269
>>263635269
>also hes gay.
T-THAT IS A MISINTERPRETATION AND YOU KNOW IT FUCKING ELF SCUM THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NORDIC LORE GETS INTO THE HANDS OF S-STUPID SEXY IMPERIALS.

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>>263634320
Man, fuck that mod.

>>263634904
Dibella

Considering all the Pelinal -jerking, did you play KotN: Revelation?
How was it?
I'm considering reinstalling Oblivion for that mod.

>>263635586
That mod doesn't do anything special, m8.

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>>263634904
Daedra: Sanguine
Aedra: Akatosh

But if I had my way I'd be dedicated to the Mane instead of anybody else. Now there's a god with ideas!

>>263635347

Now see, this is why I accept my own version of things. Amaranth is part of the Kirkbride fanfiction that I don't accept as canon.

As far as I'm concerned, CHIM is the final step. Beyond that would be becoming the godhead itself, or rather a second one.

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>>263635594
Does Dibella allow men?.

>>263633418
Being racist is a negative when you're the most generic race and one of the weakest ones.

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>>263634904
Jyggalag, i choose you!
Now the day has come, when roots of madness will be cleaned up from Shivering Isles to reveal crystal surface underneath.

>>263635886
It's not a farfetched concept. Ever heard of turtles all the way down?

It's a dream in a dream in a dream in a dream, ad infinitum.

>>263635561
It's described in C0DA and sort of in the Anuad, but I can't recall the details. It's sort of like achieving CHIM but without having to be a douche to do it.

>>263634904
hermaeus mora

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>>263636068
>the most generic race and one of the weakest ones
>elder scroll nords
I'msuchalorefag/10.

Favorite top 3 races?
Mine are Dunmer, Orc and Argonian

>>263634904
In this order:

1.Sheo
2.Jyggalag
3.Meridia
4.Azura
5.Malacath
.
.
.
6.-17.The rest

>Favorite NPC
Kud-ei in oblivion. Something about her was just really down-to-earth in a good way.

>Favorite book
Cabin in the Woods. Really wish there was random spooky like that in the games.

>Lorkhan or are you a bitch-ass nigga?
Mantle my dick, nigga!

>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
Except trying to become god...if mantling works the way I understand it to.

>>263629196
vagina helmet

>>263635683
I tried to look up video of it but the instant it turned on
>YOOO! WHAT IS UP GUYS-
Had to turn it off. Marihaus model looks funny though.

>>263635870
Redacting Akatosh, put me down for Dibella. Totally forgot about her.

>>263636068
Nords are really only generic at face value and I don't think it's even possible to think of the Khajiit or Argonians as generic. None of them weak. The Nords are historically bullshit strong and produce shezzarines by the fucking dozen. Khajiit are usually too chill to be bothered with doing anything but remember that they went to moon BY STANDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. Argonians are (in my opinion) the strongest race on Tamriel. When Black Marsh was invaded by Mehrunes Dagon the Argonians weren't on the defensive; the fucking invaded Oblivion and wiped the floor with the daedra. Dagon had to shut down his Gates there because the Argonians were so full of piss from the Hist.

>>263636383
Imperial
Redguard
Altmer

>>263636351
>m-muh shouts
>m-muh first conquerors

nords are a shit, they we're boring before, and they're even more boring now that skyrim changed the way shouts we're supposed to work

>>263636548
>now that skyrim changed
Lore takes presedence over the games.

>>263636383
Imperial
Redguard
Khajiit

I like all of them though

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Bretons are objectively the best TES race.
Don't even try to prove me wrong

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>>263634904
Hircine

>>263636487
> The Nords are historically bullshit strong

No they're not.

They're worst warriors than orcs and redguards, and since skyrim shouts aren't exclusive to them so they have nothing special

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>>263636548
>>m-muh shouts
>>m-muh first conquerors

>actually proving the stereotype of 'Skyrim is my first and only TES game'

Holy shit.

>>263636507
AFAIK, the mod sends you back in time, where you have to help, Alessia, Morihaus, and Pelinal defeating the Ayleids.
Sounds good, might try it out.

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>>263636383
Khajiit
Bretons
Redguards

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Have you done your part and killed some Mer today /v/?

>>263636647
My first Skyrim character was a Breton, they are okay but I never finished the main questline with her.

>>263636706
they have literally nothing else though.
the shouts aren't even a nord thing anymore

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>>263636703
>>263636548

I hate it when faggy teenagers with their powerlevels come into lore threads. Insecurity is annoying for everyone witnessing it.

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>>263636647
Nords have the greatest swag.

>>263634904
Molag Bal.

>>263636383
Dwemer
Dunmer
Imperial

>>263636703
I think you meant to reply to me and yes the Nords are very strong. Why did you think the Empire was so keen on keeping them around? Nord warriors are hardy as fuck and very powerful when they get to shouting. Despite the gameplay concessions made in Skyrim (be honest, did you only play Skyrim?) lorewise the ability to Shout is solidly a Nordic and Dragonborn ability. Dwemer and Redguards do some similar stuff but it's not Shouting. Even without shouting you are ignoring that sufficiently powerful Nords are basically walking elementals. Check your lore brah, Nords are ancient and tough as fuck. I'm not even a big fan of them but you need to know this stuff for context.

>>263636913
Well why don't you prove me wrong instead of posting a funny image and a condescending one-liner.

>>263629196

Hi skyrim casual. Do you even breton racial? They have had consistently some of the best racials in the series along with redguard.

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Reyda will be back any day now.

>>263636913
>powerlevels
Oh boy here we go

>Dwemer Tier
Dwemer

>Guardian deity tier
Imperials, Redguards, Hist, Nords

>Dawn Magic tier
Altmer

>Wild Hunt tier
Bosmer

>Space colony tier
Khajiit

>Magic mongrel tier
Bretons

>Nothing tier
Dunmer

>Literal Shit tier
Orsimer

>>263637206
Nigga this is a lore thread, we aint talking about no racial stats here you filthy Breton scum.

>>263637298
And by Hist I mean Argonians

>>263637101
Nope, Skyrim retconned all of that.

It's okay if you want to ignore it because you don't like it, but all that stuff about nords becoming stronger the higher you go in skyrim and them having destructive voice is now not canon.

They would be fine if all that was true, they're now another boring men race together with Imperials.

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>>263637112
>prove
Odd word choice.
Three other guys have replied to you with four different explanations.

I take it you're going to post yokudan_warrior_fucks_up_caveman.jpg next?

You've been attacking people the past three lore threads because they don't share your Redguard fetish.

>>263637473
I haven't even posted in the past three lore threads anon.

I just don't like nords, they're savages and uncivilized scum.

>>263637440
>but all that stuff about nords becoming stronger the higher you go in skyrim and them having destructive voice is now not canon.
Gonna need some citations.

> they're now another boring men race together with Imperials.
>imperials
>roman space hedonists that had a cosmic threesome with Ayieds and the Ming Dynasty
>boring
GONNA NEED SOME CITATIONS.

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>>263637440
>Nope, Skyrim retconned all of that.
Oh shit we got a loremaster on our hands. I bet you think it's canon that Solitude has 30 people in it. The games are always a tiny snapshot of the region they look at. The closest I think they got to actually capturing the entirety of the province was Morrowind and even then it was just Vvardenfell and still had stuff missing.

>>263637440
But they still do
There are books in-game about how Nord armies regularly used Tongues to destroy walls. And every nord can just do a Battle Cry, which seems to be a very basic Shout.

You can attribute it to the Oblivion crisis fucking everything up, I guess, or Beth's laziness. Either way, anyone can still learn Shouts if they want, the Ebony warrior is a Redguard.

>>263637101
>sufficiently powerful Nords are basically walking ice elementals
>sufficiently powerful Bretons are basically immune to magic and elements

>>263637818
That is also correct. You can have both at the same time. I fucking love Bretons as well but let's not forget that they will never, ever unite. They don't even really think of themselves as Bretons. Just a bunch of "co-existing" cultures. At least in High Rock. I'd assume the Breton identity only matters when they're in foreign lands.

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>>263637621
>I just don't like nords, they're savages and uncivilized scum.

>first historians
>only oceanmasters
>said "move over Arkay, apotheosis coming through."

I want to be a savage and uncivilized scum.

>>263629196
Altmer> Argonians/Dunmer> Khajiit/Bretons/Redguard>Bosmer> Imperials/Orismer>Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nords

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>>263638186
>only oceanmasters

But that's wrong you filthy Sep lover

>>263629196
>Reminder that Hammerfell is the best and very probably the next choice

But I don't want to play in a land of niggers.

>>263637704
By size Vvardenfell was not any closer than Skyrim. In fact if you put them on a map of Tamriel they match up almost exactly.

>>263638312
>Tries to look cool and writes Orsimer
>He can't even write it right
Just say Orc faglord

>>263638349
Two people have said check your lore.

I will be the lucky third: Check your lore. You are entering Mary Sue territory even for TES standards.

>>263638475
>everyone is the same person

>>263638475
If you think I'm the Redguard guy, then fuck off

You check your lore, Redgaurds sailed from Yokuda and regularly raid as pirates.

>>263638583
>CHIM

>>263638625
>You check your lore, Redgaurds sailed from Yokuda and regularly raid as pirates.
Very nice, but they're not Nord-tier seamen. This is just a thing.
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord

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>>263638312
Fucking elves

>>263638432
I didn't mean by size. I meant culture and population, for that game at least. They got close to all of the culture but had to skimp on some stuff to get the game out.

>>263638475
To be fair man, Nords and Redguards are both sailor races. However I'd argue the Nords are superior sailors for handling the frozen coasts of Skyrim.

>540 hours in Skyrim
>1000+ hours in oblivion
>3 hours in Morrowind

I really try to like MW, but how can i motivate myself to play it?
The lack off voice acting turned me off.

>>263639068
Wait for OpenMW, it's coming soon__.

>>263638845
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Redguard

What you attribute to the Nords are the same for the Redguards. Hell, they even still sail to what's left of Yokuda and back for trade.

Face it, Nords have cool shit going for them but you're wrong about what they're good at.

man theres a lot of fighting in here

>>263638432
I can't believe that. Vvardenfell is fucking small, Skyrim feels much bigger.

>Favorite NPC
High Pockets
>Favorite book
Filament and Filigree
>Lorkhan or are you a bitch-ass nigga?
Shor's beard...
>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
His dragon was more phallic than mine.

What I like best about TES games is that there's no faggy orientals in the games (weeabo modder virgins aside).

>>263639381
It's what the Imperials were supposed to be
You can thank Oblivion's lorerape for that being gone

>>263636383
Altmer,
Dunmer,
Argonian

>>263639252
...what the fuck did i just read

>>263639381
There are katanas, tantos and dai-katanas though.

>>263639381
Akavir is like that.

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>>263637473

It's WRECKING caveman anon

>>263639524
>open console
>click katana
>disable
>close console

>>263639252
>Vvardenfell is fucking small, Skyrim feels much bigger.
If you count empty plains, sure.

>>263638473
I actually forgot orcs and hastily went back.

>>263639673
look at that proud nord warrior getting obliterated by a superior redguard fighter using the Way of the Sword.

nordfags btfo

>>263639165
>What you attribute to the Nords are the same for the Redguards.
This is false.

Redguards:
Super warriors that can cut through atoms with enough discipline, they detest most magics and are capable sailors. Weaknesses are disorganization and lack of discipline as a whole, fail a rank-and-file soldiers, best used as shock attack and scouts.

Nords:
Forged in death-zone Atmora and granted the dragon speech, with enough training can shout through time. Most trusted race to manage the Imperial trade routes through any sea. Weaknesses include stubbornness and Dunmer-tier tradition-stagnation.

>>263639521
Vvardenfell really is small, it just seems big at the start because of how slow you move. If you ran around in Morrowind at the same speed you do in Skyrim, you'd immediately notice. Not to mention much more of Skyrim's landscape is traversable, whereas many of Morrowind's mountains and hills were designed to be barriers.

>>263639753
Real life has empty plains in it too.

>>263637298
>Dwemer Tier
Orsimer

>Chim Tier
Chimer

>Fargoth Tier
Bosmer

>>263639143
What does the mod actually do?

>>263639753
It's not like Molag Amur, the Grazelands or the Ashlands are much more interesting than tundra/plains.

>>263639842
Video games aren't supposed to be like real life. They're supposed to be more interesting.

>>263639908
Which is why their being small is a good thing.

Reminder that IF Bethesda choose to do the next game in Elsweyr they wont That only 1 race of Khajiit will live there and no other will be included in the game

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>tfw the game didn't look like this
Fucking grass mods.

>>263639940
I don't think open world games would be very open with stuff every 5 meters.

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>>263638845

Redguards are actually the fiercest at sea, the Imperial Navy had to bring in a dragon to overcome them in battle

>

They are a highly disciplined and enterprising people, having centuries of experience with warfare in their homeland before arriving on Tamriel's shores. Their warriors are acknowledged to be among the best in the world. The Redguards are also known for their naval prowess, and their fleets have proved a match for the Empire's best armadas, as seen during the Stros M'Kai revolt.[26] Stros M'Kai and some parts of mainland Hammerfell hold many Dwemer ruins, and some young Redguards seeking to enter military service must brave the dangers of these ruins.[1] Most of their holidays and traditions seem to revolve around either the celebration of natural phenomena or the commemoration of great battles and warriors.[3][4][27]

>>263640079
They better fucking not, the furries will be too much to contain.

>>263640096
What is that castle near the bottom of the front of the world?

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>>263639252

>>263640135
Due to their swift and decisive conquering of the province of Hammerfell, the Redguards are renowned as arguably the most fierce, versatile and naturally gifted warriors in all of Tamriel. Their ferocity and versatility is also manifested in their personality, which lends itself to why they are most effective as scouts and in small units as opposed to being deployed as rank and file soldiers.[1][2]

Does uesp have anything regarding Redguard and their swordplay (splitting atoms and shaving bones)

>>263640135
>>263640313
Nah they're just coons.

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>>263639793

>Now these were the days after the Tiber War had come to Hammerfell with its banners and phalanxes and its skill at sea, which came to nothing except for treaty, for no empire of men may rule the sons and daughters of Yokuda. We are superior in every way to all the other races of this world and they know it. The Hoon Ding guides us; all others can Make Way.

>>263640096
It did look like that.

>>263640280
It was great until the bottom.

>>263640249
Probably Helgen.

>>263639879
It's not a mod, it's an open source engine designed to run Morrowind. Think of it like someone trying to code their own version of Morrowind from scratch, but instead of scratch they have access to all of its assets.

Because of the goal of the project and its open source nature, it will run as if it were a modern game and take advantage of modern graphics standards without the need for special extenders or other things. This means better compatibility, less hassle running the game, improved graphics right out of the starting gate, and the ability for anyone to go in and make improvements to it. On top of that, since the entire engine is accessible, changes can be made to anything at all, such as reprogramming the UI or overhauling the animation system. Old mods will work, but new mods can be much more diverse.

It's exciting for Morrowind fans because it will respark interest in the modding community and make the game more accessible to fans of Oblivion/Skyrim.

Why are there so many Morrowind fags?
It's not better than Skyrim in any way.
Oblivion is shit and has not a SINGLE positive aspect.
Skyrim is the best ES game, deal with it.

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>>263640581
Sounds like a waste of time unless they fix the shitty combat system.

>>263640623
Why would you do that.

Entering a lore thread, and trying to stir shit up about the games.

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>>263640280
>watermark
>those memes used

>>263640079
This is precisely why they won't do an Elsweyr game. Bethesda couldn't even be bothered to make the beast races different after Morrowind, they certainly aren't going to put effort into rigging 20+ different types of Khajiit models and skeletons. TESO has some minor representation of the other subtypes, but they are disappointing. Generic tigers, seriously?

>>263640487
>Cyrus actually had Vivec BTFO

It's a pity that story of him fighting Tiber Septim on the moon isn't done yet

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>Redguards are actually master race I'm totally not a cuckfag
>Guys Nords are master race look at this mirroring with the Third Reich

Yet they jump at the Imperial and Altmer command.

>>263640340

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/lord-vivecs-sword-meeting-cyrus-restless

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Book_of_Circles

>>263640371

They're more like old tales of Atlanteans than anything else

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>>263640712
Well that's the idea, with OpenMW someone could completely change the combat system in any way they want. If someone really wanted to, they could implement Dark Messiah combat, for example. Granted, that would be a hell of a project, but OpenMW will make shit like that possible.

>>263641017
>Dark Messiah combat

This needs to fucking happen.

>>263640683
>Not being an Altmer master race

What it like eating mammoth shit everyday?

>>263640830

>Empire abandons Hammerfell to the high elves because they took too many losses to contest the issue

>Redguards go ape shit on the Thalmor, constant guerilla warfare in the Alik'r desert, lone blademasters ambushing Altmer columns and butchering them before disappearing into the dunes

>Single handedly reach an independent treaty with elf scum, they flee from Hammerfell

>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
It is hinted that he tortured and killed anyone who didn't instantly bow down to him. He was also big on slavery.

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>>263640926
Altmerfags are the worst

>>263641017
>implying that's not going to happen

>>263641213
>big on slavery

everyone was big on slavery until the fucking Empire came with their moralfaggotry

>>263640280
It makes sense that the regions are to scale, we know that Bethesda traditionally maps out all of Tamriel in-game specifically for that purpose.

>>263641193
I-its all part of our p-plan. Just you wait you h-human scum!

>>263641082
It's easy to sit there and make demands.

Why don't YOU do it?

>>263641296
Except I think the Argonians and Khajiit. But I could be wrong on that.

quick, you have 10 seconds to tell what's your favourite Great House

>>263641219
It's okay, success breeds jealousy.

>>263641381
Because OpenMW isn't out yet

>>263641429
dunno about the khajiit but the argonians actually traded slaves with dunmer

thats why only the lowest of the low argonians end up as slaves

>>263641464
Telvanni, anything less wouldn't be worth of my pure Altmer bloodline.

>>263641193
And yet after 4000 years only two races still dictate the future, and that's the Altmer and Imperials.

I guess swords are useless when you succumb to words.

>>263641501
That explains why Elves hate Men so much

>>263641429
I think I read once that Argonians traded away weaker tribes to Dunmer similarly how African warlords traded with Europeans and Arabs

>>263641464
Telvanni. All other answers are invalid.

>Open thread

Ctrl-f "Barenziah" - no results
Ctrl-f "n'gasta kvata" - no results

Disappointing.

>>263641557
Excuses.

>>263640749
Morrowind and Oblivion even have inferior lore.
It's on tpic to say those games are shit.
Skyrim:
Old Norse god gets send into the future and is about to destroy the world.

Showdown between an ancient Vampire Cult and an organisation of Vampire Hunters, superior Falmer lore.

Miraak, a truly tragical person, enslaves the people of Solstheim to return to Nirn.

Oblivion:
Red Devil faggot attacks the capital.
You become a mad god.
You defeat a stupid Ayleid Warlord.

Morrowind:
Some faggot starts creating ash monsters.
Political intrigue in the capital, which no one actually cares about.
Werewolves on a snowy island.

I know what i'd pick.

>>263641742
I like the real Baranziah for spiked Khajiiti dick and hinting to Talos' true nature

>>263641825
The only thing I agree with you is that Skyrim lore is great, but Morrowind and Oblivion are also very good, maybe Oblivion is a bit worse.

I know it's a bait post but in case there's someone that thinks remotely something like this.

>>263641825
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

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>>263641621

Redguards are still thriving on apocalyptic Nirn and loving it, everyone else fled their home planet like cowards because of a little death world conditions

>>263641880
>spiked Khajiiti dick
My favorite part of this is it was introduced in Daggerfall when Khajiit were still basically just humans with cat ears.

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>>263642003
>Redguards are still thriving on apocalyptic Nirn and loving it, everyone else fled their home planet

>TES is just the real life Mars Plan

Spooky.

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>>263641464
Dagoth.

>>263641742
Instead of shitposting, start your own discussion on them, what do you want to talk about?

What is n'gasta kvata?

Why are High Elves so based?

>>263631150
>you have to sneak when doing business in Solitude as an Imperial
This is the first time I noticed that

>>263641880
What's this about spiked dick? I dont remember Baranziah sleeping with Khajiit?

>>263642303
n'gasta kvata is a book in morrowind that is written in sload language

it's apparently a book about necromancy stuff seeing how you only find it in necromancer dens, however if you decode the message you get some irrelevant text put there as an easter egg

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>>263642309
Anon...

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>>263641464
Lannister.

only right answer

>>263632242
But for some reason it has Lusty Argonian Maid before it was written

>>263642454
It's in the Daggerfall version, from Morrowind onwards it's censored by the temple

She gets seduced by a Khajiiti thief, takes his spiked dick in front of a whole tavern and passes out from the pain

>>263639381
Aren't Orsimer a combination of Turks, Mongels, and other Nomadic races?

>>263632242
>>263642539
They've been thrown backwards in time.

Not the first time it happened. See the Dragon Break Reexamined, and remember it appeared in Morrowind first

>>263637259
Who wanted him dead?

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>>263641825
Fuckin hell back in my day we put effort into our trolling

>>263642810
Orsimer are nice fantasy orcs with mongol armor.

generic as fuck, the least lore of every race

>>263629196
>Favorite NPC
Ulfric Stormcloak
>Favorite book
im not a nerd
>Lorkhan or are you a bitch-ass nigga?
what?
>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
he was bad guy

>>263642718
>seduced
She basically says "I'll fuck you if you get me into the Thieves Guild."

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>>263641464
Redoran

>>263642718
Jesus Christ

>>263643091
casual/10

try to troll better next time

>>263642981
They're Altmer who literally got smeared in shit when their god got eaten and shat out. Then as if that wasn't enough, Shor takes off a curse that made Nords age and die at very young ages (up to 6 years old) and threw it on the Orcs just because they were unfortunate enough to be nearby.

Orcs get shit on by all the other races, especially Bretons and Redguards who regularly band together to remove Orc trying to settle near their lands. Although apparently there's a reason they always want to build Orsinium in the Illiac bay area when the rest of Tamriel doesn't mind them so much

>>263643119
never dick a dunmer woman anon

they're sluts full of STDs

TES lore is shit, and I shouldn't even have to explain why. This thread is a waste of space.

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>>263643425
I wonder who's behind this post

>>263643116
What the fuck is going off in that image?

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>>263643425
Why do you keep bullying us?

>>263643425
As much as I hate to admit it, this. For all its greatness, TES lore is absolutely shat on by stuff like Souls lore.

>>263641742
>Ctrl-f "n'gasta kvata" - no results
I think you mean La Ratoneja.

>>263643665
redoran warriors slaying the Skar.

The big building oif Ald'ruhn is all that remains of that.

>>263643665
The Redoran headquarters is in the shell of a giant dead crab
When the Oblivion Crisis came they raised it from the dead to fight it off

>>263643425
>>263643692
Is samefagging a means of understanding CHIM?

>>263643692
>>263643425
Epic, simply epic

>>263643425
Fuck off Imperial scum. Just because you guys are the worse race. Not even the furries want to stay under your rule. Fuck off

>>263643692
At least we don't shit up your Souls lore threads.

>>263629196
How do other mages think of conjuration specialists?

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>>263643823
>>263643834
Guess again. You're game is shit and your lore is even worse.

>>263643857
>implying that was actually a souls player

Hey guys I play Lord of the Rings and I think your lore is shit! And you can believe I'm an average LOTR fan because I said so!

On a scale from 1 to 10, how casual am I?

>never played Morrowind or even Daggerfall
>always play with quest markers
>always fast travel
>first thing after starting new game: cheat to add all map markers
>cheat gold whenever i need it
>always choose Imperial
>look up UESP when i'm stuck
>never read in-game books
>always play melee warrior
>never use magic
>always preorder everything
>buy all DLCs
>use god mode cheat when i carry too much

This is not trolling btw, i really play like that

>>263643857
Every Souls lore thread was instantly shat up by people bitching about VaatiVidya grasping at straws and other shit.

>>263644032
>you're
I'm a faggot.

>>263644118
HE

>>263644118
Do you happen to play minecraft on creative with peaceful as well you baby

>>263643823
So the dunmer, with all their fancy magic and a giant undead crab could only drive the deadra to a standstill.
While a ragtag army of argonians lead by an immobile sentient tree completely whalloped Molag's ass and nearly got parts of his domain turned into parts of argonia

Either Molag enjoys being raped as much as he does rape, or Argonia has some scary ass generals

>>263643303
>apparently there's a reason they always want to build Orsinium in the Illiac bay area
Do they want the Adamantine Tower?

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>>263643425
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth right here. Enjoy your fanfiction-tier shit fantasy

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>>263644118
9-10

I think you have brain problems

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>>263629196
>Reminder that all mer a shit and that men win in the end
m-e-n is a odd way to spell 'dunmer'

>>263644365
I think so. Maybe they want Trinimac back and they think it might help.

>>263644356
>Molag Bal
>Oblivion Crisis

>>263644492
fuck off nigger

>>263643665
The Oblivion Crisis.

Morrowind got his hard by the Oblivion Gates, but no where took it worse than Ald'ruhn. A Gate literally opened up in the middle of the city.

The town guard did the best they could to hold back the invading Daedra long enough to a call to be sent out to the Redoran Army.

Where as the Telvanni had become isolationists, and Hlaalu politicians, Redoran had always stayed true to their oaths and duties, and thankfully for their people, still had a mighty standing army.

The following day was war, a war of huge scale confined to a tiny area. Quite literally the entire Redoran forces slamming into an endless wall of Daedra.

The combat was so relentless that in order to slow the invading Daedra, the Redoran soldiers were clogging up the gate with dead Dremoras.

Still, it wasn't enough. Soon the entire defensive force was only a small battalion. All seemed hopeless until...

A citizens militia, organized by local merchants and nobles, all armed with silver weapons, donated by everyone who owned any, came to the aid of the army.

Renewed, the citizen militia and army made a desperate charge at the gate, managing to regain most of their lost ground.

While this was happening, the elders of House Redoran were busy activating an ancient safeguard built into the city to deal with invasion...

They began to use necromancy to revive the crab.

Emerging out of the ground with a mighty tremble of the earth, the crab joined the fight. The oncoming Daedra, though beings of torment and magic, were taken aback by such a sight.

As night turned to morning, the forces of Ald'ruhn held their ground, chanting the entire time

>"Remember Redoran!"

>>263644586
The Oblivion Crisis.

Morrowind got his hard by the Oblivion Gates, but no where took it worse than Ald'ruhn. A Gate literally opened up in the middle of the city.

The town guard did the best they could to hold back the invading Daedra long enough to a call to be sent out to the Redoran Army.

Where as the Telvanni had become isolationists, and Hlaalu politicians, Redoran had always stayed true to their oaths and duties, and thankfully for their people, still had a mighty standing army.

The following day was war, a war of huge scale confined to a tiny area. Quite literally the entire Redoran forces slamming into an endless wall of Daedra.

The combat was so relentless that in order to slow the invading Daedra, the Redoran soldiers were clogging up the gate with dead Dremoras.

Still, it wasn't enough. Soon the entire defensive force was only a small battalion. All seemed hopeless until...

A citizens militia, organized by local merchants and nobles, all armed with silver weapons, donated by everyone who owned any, came to the aid of the army.

Renewed, the citizen militia and army made a desperate charge at the gate, managing to regain most of their lost ground.

While this was happening, the elders of House Redoran were busy activating an ancient safeguard built into the city to deal with invasion...

They began to use necromancy to revive the crab.

Emerging out of the ground with a mighty tremble of the earth, the crab joined the fight. The oncoming Daedra, though beings of torment and magic, were taken aback by such a sight.

As night turned to morning, the forces of Ald'ruhn held their ground, chanting the entire time

>"Remember Redoran!"

>>263644356
The hist made that huge and gave them a ton more strength and they didnt really feel any pain, so they just charged blindly.

Also it wasn't Molag is was Dagon who invaded during Oblivion.

Quick question: Why did no other Princes try to invade during the Oblivion Crisis? Sheo opened a portal, but thats it. Seems wrong considering some of the nature of the princes

>>263644356
>ragtag army of argonians lead by an immobile sentient tree
More like basically every Argonian in Tamriel lead by the An-Xileel, Argonians who the Hist turned into freakish mutant superlizards of destruction

>>263644586
Why are you
Putting so much
Space between your
Words m80

>>263644734
The Oblivion Crisis.

Morrowind got his hard by the Oblivion Gates, but no where took it worse than Ald'ruhn. A Gate literally opened up in the middle of the city.

The town guard did the best they could to hold back the invading Daedra long enough to a call to be sent out to the Redoran Army.

Where as the Telvanni had become isolationists, and Hlaalu politicians, Redoran had always stayed true to their oaths and duties, and thankfully for their people, still had a mighty standing army.

The following day was war, a war of huge scale confined to a tiny area. Quite literally the entire Redoran forces slamming into an endless wall of Daedra.

The combat was so relentless that in order to slow the invading Daedra, the Redoran soldiers were clogging up the gate with dead Dremoras.

Still, it wasn't enough. Soon the entire defensive force was only a small battalion. All seemed hopeless until...

A citizens militia, organized by local merchants and nobles, all armed with silver weapons, donated by everyone who owned any, came to the aid of the army.

Renewed, the citizen militia and army made a desperate charge at the gate, managing to regain most of their lost ground.

While this was happening, the elders of House Redoran were busy activating an ancient safeguard built into the city to deal with invasion...

They began to use necromancy to revive the crab.

Emerging out of the ground with a mighty tremble of the earth, the crab joined the fight. The oncoming Daedra, though beings of torment and magic, were taken aback by such a sight.

As night turned to morning, the forces of Ald'ruhn held their ground, chanting the entire time

>"Remember Redoran!"

>>263644492
Well actually, the Altmer and Bosmer, do transcend, so they do actually get what they want. But as you say, most man races die, save a few that are on the moon

>>263644586
>>263644734
>>263644839
They still lost though so fuck them

>>263643881
Depends on race and nationality. Breton and Imperials would think they are fine. Redguards would consider them evil demon whorshiping necromancer degenerates who must be stopped. Dunmeri would either want them dead or consider them holy men depending on what factions they're part of.

>>263644734
>>263644586
Could only have been written by a fat person.

>>263644734
>>263644586
How the hell did they not win with a giant undead crab, and an arsenal of silver?

More importantly, what did the Argonians do that was more effective that an silver-armed army back by a giant dead crab?

>>263644805
Surely thats not all of it. Super mutant lizards seem like nothing compared to giant undead crab
Unless the An-Xileel are THAT strong. What are their strengths and "stats"?

>>263644791
>Why did no other Princes try to invade during the Oblivion Crisis? Sheo opened a portal, but thats it. Seems wrong considering some of the nature of the princes
>the nature of the princes
If you actually understood that, you'd have answered your own question. The princes are primarily independent and have their own motivations, and while they sometimes take an interest in one another's affairs, no one has any particular reason to join Dagon in a full-scale invasion of Tamriel; some of them are even opposed to it.

Sheogorath's portal was entirely coincidental.

>>263644356
Mheanwhile altmer got their Crystal Tower totally destroyed by daedra.
>ib4 just as planned by thalmor

>>263644423
Okay.

Here is some more (not ES related):

>played Dark Souls with wiki open
>always use walkthroughs
>cheat in GTA:SA
>reload whenever i die
>still don't know how to install mods
>get my lore from r/teslore
>only played RPGs so far
>never played Witcher
>i liked Two Worlds
So, does that help you determining my plebness?

>>263645186
>More importantly, what did the Argonians do that was more effective that an silver-armed army back by a giant dead crab?
Summoning every single Argonian into the Black Marsh, filling them up with the Tamrielic equivalent of PCP, then plugging them into a strategically genius hivemind of sentient trees, then sending them screaming at the Daedra.

>>263645361
You just come across as a spoilt teenager with low intelligence is all.

>>263645186
>More importantly, what did the Argonians do that was more effective that an silver-armed army back by a giant dead crab?

Thousands of magic lizard men high on alien PCP.

>>263644791
Dagon wants to destroy Tamriel because that story about the Ragged Man and shit.

None of the other princes want to destroy Tamriel, at most Molag Bal would send giant penises to rape everything and stuff like that, but pure destruction and invasion is something only Dagon wants.

>>263645361
maybe you're good at basketball

>>263645226
Yeah but Molag surely would love to, and maybe a few others such as Malacath might want a scrap. This was there only opportunity to do so. A missed opportunity if you ask me

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Is it plausible for a dark elf to worship Talos, seeing as Talos is Lorkhan and vice-versa? From what I understand, Lorkhan is a highly respected figure in dunmer society, especially among the Redoran folk. Or do they view Talos and Lorkhan as 2 different entities?

>>263644118
>never played Morrowind or even Daggerfall
-3
>always play with quest markers
-1
>always fast travel
-1
>first thing after starting new game: cheat to add all map markers
-1
>cheat gold whenever i need it
-1
>always choose Imperial
+1
>look up UESP when i'm stuck
-1
>never read in-game books
-1
>always play melee warrior
+1
>never use magic
+3
>always preorder everything
0
>buy all DLCs
0
>use god mode cheat when i carry too much
-1

so a 4.

>>263645753
Multiple incursions by multiple Princes would probably lead to more infighting among the Daedric Lords that actual invasions.

>>263645186
Argonians had extreme numbers (the Hist called them back to Black Marsh from all over Tamriel) and also the element of surprise. While the Dunmer did their best to hold off the Daedra at the gates, the Argonians were sent berserking THROUGH the gates leading a counter-assault. The Dremora generals just weren't expecting that shit and got overwhelmed, and then basically said fuck this and shut down the gates.

If the Argonians sat back and waited for the Daedra to come through the gates, then they may not necessarily have fared better than anyone else in Tamriel. It's the fact that they went charging in. Really, if you put this into perspective, this is also how the CoC and a ragtag group of Imperials are able to shut down the gates as well, because they dared to step on Dagon's home turf. If someone had told the Dunmer that all they needed to do was go in and yank out a few Sigil stones, they probably would have been fine.

>>263644196
>Every Souls lore thread was instantly shat up by people bitching about VaatiVidya grasping at straws and other shit.
Isn't that kind of true though? He IS a confirmed shill after all.

>>263645704
>>263645490
no, I'm not.
And i'm 100% serious.
I am convinced i am the biggest pleb on this board.

>never played anything pre 2006
>never played Zelda
>never played any of the "classics"
>Skyrim is my favorite TES
>I still don't understand the plot of Shivering Isles

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Which will get finished sooner: TES VI or DaggerXL? They're both kind of taking forever

>>263645939
This pretty much.

Black Marsh and the Summerset Isles fared pretty well during the Oblivion Crisis. Cyrodiil wasn't too bad either due to CoC, but Morrowind got fucked due to poor leadership and divisions politically.

In Summerset, at first they were hit just as bad, but the Thalmor, which are a politically part, think UKIP in 2008, it's known but not got much support. They used the invasion as leverage and organized the defense, rather successfully too.

I have no idea how it was in High Rock, Elsweyr, Valenwood or Hammerfell

>>263629196
>NPC
Vivec "My Muatra is so big I see fear in Molag Bal's eyes"

>book
http://uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Incident_in_Necrom

>Lorkhan
Dead god is dead. TALOS 4 LYFE

>Reminder that pic related did nothing wrong
>mantling the godhead without knowing you're part of a dream
NO.

>>263634904

1. Sheogorath
2. Jyggalagg
3. Meridia

4 + 5: Azura + Molag Bal

>>263646426
Whats DaggerXL?

>>263646173
Do you miss your mom?

>>263646627
Daggerfall graphical enhancement mod. It's done except for NPC's showing up and being able to interact. But you can dungeon crawl all you want in it.

I havent played Daggerfall, how good are the naked sprites

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>blah blah you cant categorize daedra
I don't care. It's not my image.

>>263647132
There are more than 9 daedric princes you fuck

>>263647212
There are only 9 alignments you fuck

>>263647132
>azura
>good

fuck that bitch

>>263646426
DaggerXL. He's close enough now that he should be done before the next TES game.

>>263646746
No, i'm in my mid-twenties

>always use "tcl" to float through doors, since puzzles are hard to solve
>installed Morrowind and Gothic, but never played them, only use them to impress nerds
>only play on easiest difficulty
>never do side quests

>>263647253
Seriously? Last I heard a few years ago the project was dropped/abandoned.

Where is the up to date development site/blog?

>>263647272
w-well at least you are having fun?

>>263646627
It's some sort of unofficial recoding of TESII Daggerfall that will make the game better-looking and more mod-friendly. I hope it succeeds.

Which race is the most like Slavs

I love morrowind

>create a enchance alchemy amult for 800 points for 2 seconds
>get foritfy intellgince and restore magicka potion for 1000+ seconds at 90 m/s and 344 int.
>can bascially rape mournhold

>>263639732
>CHIMing away things you don't like

>>263647615
Khajiit

>>263647670
yeah becoming a god abusing the broken system is fun for the first 30 minutes

>>263647387
It looked abandoned but he came back and said he had some personal changes in his life for the better and is now back on devving. Last update was march 30

http://xlengine.com/blog/

>>263647789
yeah i know, thats why in my current play through only using 100-120 alchemy for potions.

>>263647834
all that code looks like magic to me

>>263647578
Yes.
I love killing the bad guys in every game.
I love it when there is a big and epic showdown between you and the main antagonist.
But Dawnguard confused me a bit.
Was the Ice Vampire king, the dead Dragon or the Vampire ladys father the antagonist?

>>263647963
It takes magic to fix BGS stuff.

>>263629196
I played ESO and the wood elves in that game are so fucking obnoxious. They need to retcon the hell out of those guys in the next game.

They had fucking WEST COUNTRY accents. What the dick

>>263648126
I refuse to believe someone like you exists.

out of 10 how shit is eso?

>>263648368
>Implying ESO is considered canon
tip kok

>>263648525
If you like shitty themepark MMOs where you just rush through the bland content to get gear/levels, then 7/10.

If you love legitimate sandbox games/MMOs? 1/10.

>>263648525
As a paid game with a sub?
3/10
If it went F2P (and adjusted for F2P)
4.5/10

>Dagon is the prince of destruction and change.
>The Septims die, along with their empire and their stability.
>The Great War happens. Tamriel breaks into a bunch of different powers that hate each other.
>A new war is coming, that will fuck things even further.
Reminder Dagon won at the end.

Bobbi Starr likes Morrowind

>>263648126
You're fucking comedy gold

The vampire waifu's daddy was the main antagonist

>>263648525
9,5, try it out when it inevitably goes F2P

>>263648126
>Durnehviir.
>Antagonist.
He's the broest undead in the history of TES.

>>263648682
Dagon lost because Alduin is dead, so now his curse will never be lifted.

>>263635538
My main problem is his focus on the Dunmer exclusively. I can understand if it's his favored race, but I would like to hear more stories about the other races. He took the Morrowind fanbase and instead of giving them something new, he added a bunch of crazy shit to Morrowind lore.

>>263632081
>>263632535
I think we can all agree that it's

>Argonian
>Redguard
>Dunmer

Followed by

>High Elves
>Imperials
>Khajiit

and finally

>Bosmer
>Bretons
>Literally sentient shit

whats your favorite tes game?

mines morrowind

>>263649003
No he isn't. Alduin came before his time and it was destined for him to fail. He will return. All the towers haven't fallen yet.

>>263648692
Thank you for your help

>>263648479
;_; But I do exist....


On another note:
Is there a cheat to obtain the materials to build the house in the house DLC quickly?

I mean, 5$ for a house you need to build first is quite heavy.
I understand that you may like it, as it is a cool feature for roleplayers, but can i get the finished house only?

>>263649153
Except Kirkbride has given plenty of exotic lore to Redguards, Khajiit, Nords, everything with the Dwemer, has the Thalmor win, and more. The Dunmer might be his favorite, but he's not skimping on other races. You still have to keep some mystery to explore in later games.

>>263649238
Swap bretons and imperials.

>>263649327
I'm going to assume you're talking about hearthfire. Cheating in TES games is super fucking easy.

Are you use you want me to tell you? Once you know about cheats you will probably use them a lot.

>>263634001
ebonheart pact is a fairly cool group.
Me & my friends all picked aldmeri dominion though.
I made a high-elf paladin type guy in the beta, then a barakhajiit dragonknight in the full version. He's kind of a warrior/rogue, with bows, dragon spells and giant maces.

>>263631150

ESO isn't even bad on the lore.

>>263649559
I want to know, yes.

>>263649003
Alduin is not dead. He's still neded to destroy the current kalpa.

And I hate he was the final boss. TES games always found some loophole to justify a godly being being defeated (Dagoth Ur loses the connection to the heart, and Dagon is banished by a divine). But not Alduin: you kill him fair and square, so of course, they had to depower him to make it aceptable. So the aspect of Aka, devourer of worlds, becomes just a big dragon, devourer of souls.

>>263649238
I would probably switch argonians and khajiit, but you know what, split up male and female orcs and bump female up a tier or two and you got yourself a deal
Also you forgot Nords, which I guess says a lot