What would the tier list look like if all the characters had their canonically power levels?
Just because they have the title of god doesn't make them ridiculously overpowered.
Look at Samus. She's just a woman in armor and going by Super Metroid she can run and jump crazy fast while planting super bombs that blow everything up. She can shoot black holes and mini suns according to Echoes. That's some god tier shit.
>Shulk is merely a god who was created by a scientist who in turn was only god thanks to some AI.
But that act rewrote the entire structure of the universe, Shulk now maintains the universe itself.
I get why Kirby can be considered super strong, but I find it hard to believe considering his size. His canon size is a few inches high and he wouldn't be able to swallow most of the other characters, I haven't played TD yet but I doubt Supernova would do much to change that.
>inherently more powerful.
The guy straight up disappears a time during or after X gets built. And Mega only gets one move from every boss while Kirby can get plenty..
And the Pink Puff is eternal.
I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Madara. I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan and with rikidou techniques, his Gunbai, a Perfect Susano’o and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he also has mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release nin
Samus doesn't blow up planets, she just has a habit of triggering self-destruct mechanisms.
Though in Prime 3 she's more or less a walking nuke powered by a Lovecraftian god.
>Ahem, Rosy births galaxys. I think she goes in the god tier.
No, she just runs the daycare for baby stars. Which I still find pretty fucked up.
>sentient being blows up to become an object
Though since Mario is a kids' series it probably has something with nature/planets having a spirit or some shit.
Shulk was dead all along and his body was contained a god. He got better and killed god thus becoming god Gave it all up to live and restored the world to its natural state and lived in peace with his waifu
>Lord of the Universe Tier:
Zero Suit Samus
Wii Fit Trainer
Mr. Game and Watch
>YOU. ARE. A TOY tier
Science dudes do science shit.
Entire universe gets destroyed in an experiment.
Two people became gods, created a new universe.
God 1 kills God 2.
Shulk develops god powers on his own and kills God 1 in his own micro universe.
Universe destroyed again.
Shulk now one true God and also owns the power the other two gods wielded.
Mewtwo could literally squish everything's brain with his psychic powers.
Since Ike has the blue flames now in smash it appears that he has Yune's power with him.
Also we're obviously talking about all characters at their max.
He also only needed Yune for the finishing blow, but he fought Ashera as a regular human before that. Just like that legendary hero whatshername
Shulk couldn't beat Sonic and I challenge you to disprove me.
He has precognition. His precognition does not happen in slow motion.
It doesn't matter if you see a blue blur going mach 5 pass by three seconds before it happens.
If that's the case, Sonic is likely already past you.
also he is not immortal, he is just an object with sentience. he neither lives or dies
It wouldn't. Kirby is weak shit. The only reason he could crack pop star in half in the minigame is because it's literally made of candy.
I fucking love Kirby games, one of my absolute favorite Nintendo series.
Power levels are something like
Literal God Almighty
Everybody that isn't less than a foot tall
>Everybody that isn't less than a foot tall
Literally where are they
Mewtwo can't even defeat a pink fetus
FUCK I FORGOT IT. Oh well here it is.
Mario could jump on him and kill him.
Megaman could just shoot him.
Ike one hands swords that the CU needs two hands and a lot of windup to use, could go toe to toe with a god before a god imbued him with power, can dodge like it ain't nobody's business and can all but fly.
Samus could obliterate him without getting scratched.
Kirby could just eat him.
Ganondorf could just posses him and even if he couldn't he would literally be unkillable to the CU. Nothing the CU could do would leave a scratch on Ganondorf.
All these characters have invincibility frames too, so I don't know why you'd think that'd be something the CU would have over them. Nigga can't even keep his shield up, even Link has more stamina than the CU.
>Kirby swallows Link/Robin/any other god-killers
>Spits them out into an abyss or swallows them if they can fly
what is that man's name?
and whats in this envelope?
Reminder that Ganondorf's only weaknesses are the Master Sword and Light Arrows, both of which can pretty much only be wielded by Link and Zelda. So basically Ganon can defeat everyone on the roster, except he's Link and Zelda's bitch.
No he doesn't.
That's for the purpose of extending gameplay.
Mario takes double damage when he loses his hat and yet the hat does nothing.
There are billions of examples like this in games and if I played Xenoblade I'd name dozens.
Also if you spin dash you outspeed him in the scene you're talking about.
Only if he can do whatever he has to do before Sonic can touch him.
Mind you Sonic could just teleport him into the Sun.
>Reminder that Ganondorf's only weaknesses are the Master Sword and Light Arrows
No, those are his only weaknesses within the Zelda canon where they only have medieval shit at their disposal.
Greninja can switch his type on the fly before a fighting type move could come close to him.
But yeah, I'm sure Mewtwo could hit him with a thunder wave before getting his ass handed to him in the same turn.
he would react to getting teleported
what ability exactly does he have to prevent that
I'm definitely not thinking of The Flash. Sonic can do all these things. And got help you if he has 50 rings on him. Then the only thing that he can be killed by is having his body crushed.
They can damage him, but you'll notice that it's impossible to actually get the final hit in without having the Master Sword equipped.
Same thing in TP; you need the Master Sword equipped instead of Ordon, or else he will never stop getting up.
Well if we're going by the fact that megaman seems to retain all the powers of every robot master he's ever fought(and without energy drain) in his smash intro, he basically controls space/time among many ridiculous powers.
Even without that, his base power is pretty retarded, and nowhere near displayed correctly in the game(pellets only go 3 feet you fucking serious sakurai?). He should've been a walking arsenal who's weakness was his lack of mobility.
Same could be said of Ness, but unlike Mewtwo he's in Smash 4.
That's as retarded as saying that only the specific molecular structure of a Waddle Dee and other dreamland creatures can hurt Kirby.
Mario is far, far faster than Sonic.
Mario easily outruns bullets and cannonballs. This is because Mario moves so fast that every Mario game has to be played in slow-motion.
Sonic on the other hand? Well, everyone is lying to him. He really is just a regular hedgehog under a delusion of being fast, so everyone plays along with his fantasy as to not hurt his feelings and slows down their pace. Only Eggman demonstrates how easily he can outrun Sonic in every game. Eggman actually wants Sonic to come to terms with his slowness. He is the true hero.
Olimar: A midget with the ability to order his minions to attack people. Power in numbers he could overpower some weaklings
Duck Hunt: A duck swatting around at people, and a dog goes for the jugular, could kill, but difficult
Villager: A human with an axe and a few other tools
ROB: A fucking inanimate toy
>all these people putting Kirby in top tier
If he was the same size as the rest of the cast, maybe. Anyone taller than 3.5 feet would be too large to inhale and could just step on him. Seriously, he's like 5 cm tall.
Falcon is just a hard counter to Black shadow, and the explosion is caused by a reactor melting down, not the Falcon Punch.
Anime Falcon is still best Falcon Only the last three episodes of Falcon Legend are worth watching.
I personally vote Sakurai to be a playable character
i don't understand how a tornado prevents you from getting teleported
and sonic doesn't have to be anywhere near melee range to teleport you
they show sonic's mph when you pass checkpoints in unleashed
this is actual gameplay that shows base sonic going much, much faster than what the video you're citing states
he doesn't need emeralds to use chaos control
and i'm pretty sure shulk isn't as psychic as you guys are making him out to be
>Lord of the Universe Tier:
Zero Suit Samus
(Pit has no powers in a true free for all where Palutena is against him)
Oh yeah. He's like an inch tall or some shit, right? Even with an entire Pikmin army he'd be weakest.
Seriously, is anyone canonically weaker than Olimar, with or without Pikmin?
You will also notice that Little Mac has never been KO'd by something other than a boxing glove. That means if Ganondorf doesn't have boxing gloves, he literally cannot defeat Little Mac.
It's canon, play his games. You need boxing gloves to KO Little Mac or it won't work.
>and i'm pretty sure shulk isn't as psychic as you guys are making him out to be
Except he literally is, as demonstrated through both gameplay and cutscenes. Later Shulk doesn't even have visions, he's just constantly aware of the future.
Everyone says Olimar is the weakest, but if we're going by canonical powers wouldn't he be pretty good?
He can punch anything to death with enough time and is immune to everything if he just lays down.
I would put Kirby in God-tier easy.
Simply because no matter who you are, how big you are, how powerful you are, how many minions you have at your disposal, if you piss off Kirby even slightly he will hunt you down until the end of the universe just to slap your shit.
>putting anybody above a Mario, Luigi, DK, Bowser and Wario
LITERALLY GOD TIER
FUCKING STRONG TIER
Samus/Zero Suit Samus
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY THIS STRONG THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
Wii Fit Trainer
THEI NEVER FOUGHT A SINGLE FUCKING BATTLE THEIR WHOLE LIFE
Mr. Game and Watch
and that still doesn't help you if you can't react to something that is faster than you can possibly react to
nigger plenty of characters that are constantly aware of the future get their shit pushed in
>swordsmen above Sonic, Mario, and people with spaceships
I'd argue that X is actually weaker than megaman. The reason X is special is because his conscience and all them armor upgrades.
The robot master abilities were definitely more powerful than any reploids. Reploids are just shitty mock versions of X gone wrong.
The Old Man in Zelda 1 says you need to get the Silver Arrows to defeat Ganon.
The Fairy Queen in LTTP says the Silver Arrows she gives you are the tool you need to defeat Ganondorf.
In WW, after going through the first 3 dungeons only to get the Master Sword, you go up to Forsaken Fortress and the man himself tells you he can only be harmed by a weapon glowing with the power to repel evil.
It's pretty fucking canon that only the Master Sword and Silver/Light arrows can do the job.
Then he'll get smooshed. Or thrown. Or attacked by the myriad of weapons the rest of the cast has. Or he'll crack his helmet and suffocate to death. Or his Pikmin will discover the concept of liberty and riot.
Pretty sure Pit ranks as more powerful than Link; at the very least, the combat in his game was much more intense than that in the Zelda series, and he had much more options at his disposal.
Link rides on the fact he's the hero of legend and most things he fights are the guardians of temples designed to be overcame by shit he already found.
252 Atk Life Orb Greninja Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mewtwo: 151-179 (42.6 - 50.5%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
Even a max attack Greninja using its only viable option to outspeed Mewtwo (this is with both having max speed, Mewtwo has 394 and Greninja has 377) can't get a fucking guaranteed 2HKO.
252 SpA Mewtwo Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 147-174 (51.3 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Mewtwo gets it against Greninja even if he used Shadow Sneak to be Ghost type (shown here). Mewtwo wins.
Oh right, so "only" Palutena, Pit, Kirby, Shulk and every single Fire Emblem character would wreck his shit.
And I'm going to go ahead and say that Samus's reality-erasing cannon from Prime 2 wouldn't care one bit about Ganon's dark magicks.
Olimar can be squashed by anyone on the roster
Jigglypuff is essentially a domestic animal
Villager is an average person, unless being able to consistently chop trees down in 3 swings and dig 3ft deep holes with one motion is an indicator of superhuman strength
WFT is a normal human. In "fit" shape but not "good" shape like Little Mac
Duck Hunt is just an average dog with extra paw dexterity (he can clench ducks inside a fist).
ROB is a lifeless piece of plastic.
I'd say Olimar. Even ROB could beat him if a strong enough gust caused him to fall on Olimar
>Actually Exists Tier
>Lord of the Universe Tier:
>God Killer Teir
Zero Suit Samus
Wii Fit Trainer
Mr. Game and Watch
>Ants in Your Pants Tier
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this might be pretty good? I put God Killers under Gods since usually they need something special/some god bonus to beat said gods. Master Sword, Chaos Emeralds, etc
>mfw I realize god tier wouldn't be the highest tier because there are literally characters that have beaten god
I know you're trying to be contrarian by putting Falcon so low, but even if you only look at vidya appearances it's obvious that's he's really fit. Your body would have to be in really good shape to handle driving in a machine that can go several thousand km/hr without suffering serious pain and soreness. Might not be as fit as Little Mac, but definitely stronger than WFT.
What fucking Mewtwo runs Thunderbolt
Shit nigga if you're gonna run calcs then at least know something about competitive pokemon.
You could've just said "Mewtwo uses Focus Blast Greninja ded because the fucker outspeeds it." Then again, 70% accuracy on Focus Blast isnt that fun.
This. Aside from Pit canonically outclassing every Nintendo character, Pit knows about the metaworld and can break the 4th wall. He can always just hook in a controller and make his opponent punch himself
Has everyone forgotten the fact that Wario is canonically Immortal?
>mfw Madara Uchiha is still a meme on /v/
>mfw Madara Uchiha is already fodder tier already in the Naruto universe
Both Sasuke and Naruto would solo him and Kaguya is even more powerful than those two
I didn't say they usually did. I just picked an attack Mewtwo had that could always hit Greninja the first turn.
I guess the Greninja could use Spikes, but it would still get hit by the first Tbolt.
And exactly. I built it as the two specifically trying to kill each other, not a fucking team. Calm down. I know a bit about competitive Pokèmon, not that it fucking matters.
>the same sets are the only thing viable in the metagame ever (granted in Ubers you'd run Thunder)
That's a good idea, but if Greninja DOESN'T use Shadow Sneak turn one, Tbolt's an OHKO
We alredy had this thread:
God slayer tier:
>Bowser Jr and the Koopalings
Above Average Tier:
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Mr. Game and Watch
>Duck Hunt Dog
>Not being invincible refers to the fact his conditions can be changed and he can be hurt. But it's important to remember that while he can be hurt, he cannot be killed. While this may not make him the overall top tier in the contest, this places him well above other, mortal characters such as Mario and Link, and even Samus.
Nah, Mega-Man is fucking cool and original as fuck, but I dont think he's more iconic than DK.
I forgot about Pac-Man, but I don't really think he is more iconic than DK. Nostalgia is not a determining factor.
I wouldn't say it's a nostalgia thing so much as it's how well known they are. Literally everyone knows Pac-Man. Does everyone know DK? Close, but I bet there's a fair amount of people who aren't all too familiar with him.
>Ness is channeling the power of the entire planet through his body to augment his strength
>Can teleport, levitate, manipulate objects, heal himself, et cetera, in addition to being physically strong enough to kill dinosaurs or alien robots with a baseball bat or yo-yo
>Even in the event he encounters an invincible enemy he cannot defeat, he can still win by simply praying for victory if the situation is desperate enough
I think we all know who's the best.
Lucas a shit, by the way. If Ness was in Mother 3, he would have destroyed the Absolute Safety Capsule in one attack.
I don't hang around kids, so I can't say with accuracy what characters are popular with them. But if I had to take a guess, I'd say kids would know Pac-Man too. Keep in mind that they don't have to have played his game to know who he is.
I don't remember playing Pac-Man as a kid, but I was perfectly familiar with who he was, but I was born in 92 so who knows how these things have changed since I was a kid.
>Now looking at Metroid Prime 2’s multi-player, Each player gets one energy tank of shielding, a fully charged Power Beam shot (the half terawatt beam) does, if i remember correctly, 30 units of damage out of 99. Now doing the math, its rounded up to 3 terawatts per energy tank. Doing even more math, her suit’s sheilding has an average of 66 terawatts of power; enough to power the USA for 8.1 years.
You don't have to kill somebody to take them out of the fight. Incapacitate them, trap them, relocate them, etc there's lots of ways to deal with somebody that can't be killed. Wario's real strength is his herculean power
R.O.B is already the strongest because he comes from the real world and was put into videogames.
If any of the other characters kill him it won't affect him because he is real and they aren't and thus remains unharmed
Shulk or Rosie
One of my mains got fucking removed and the other is shit now so I'm back at square one
>And Ike killed a god
Just one? How cute.