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>Has THREE B moves that are fucking projectiles
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>Has THREE B moves that are fucking projectiles
>One is a Hogan's Alley Can that can be shot again by pressing neutral B, controlling it's altitude
>The others are a down B summoned Wild Gunman with a delayed shot, and a side B clay pigeon thrown sideways that can be shot at any time
>Can just spam a mixture of all 3 for a disgusting zoning defense

Mark my words, this piece of shit is going to be hated more than ever now. You thought the laugh was bad? Well enjoy your spammy duck cunt.
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adapt
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except almost every character has an answer for projectiles.
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good thing i main villager
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>>263314871

Megaman's better at that
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Palutena would be a beautiful counter for Da Kunt.
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>>263314871
>tfw I am gonna be the spammy duck cunt
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>>263315281
Bowser will too with dat super armor
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>>263315271

The can alone is better at zoning than all of Mega Man's stuff put together.
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>>263315375
>tfw make a nickname DACNT and always use it with DHD
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>looks dopey most of the time, but has an obnoxious laugh
>has an animal companion
>Final Smash is literally dropping you into an ambush and laughing while you get turned into swiss cheese by gunfire

Daily reminder that the Duck Hunt Dog is now a "traitor" character from a western film.
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what type of dog is he?
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Terrible character in every regard.

>not even a character by any means, just a piece of moving scenery
>two-part character that makes no sense (why the fuck is a duck teaming up with a hunting dog)
>stupid special moves like spawning a guy from another game entirely that shoots a gun and disappears
>asked for by nobody
>OP forward smash
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>>263315397
Why is Bowser so good?
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>>263316230
A douschund
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Oh boy it sure would suck if Villager rendered almost all projectiles useless

Oh wait. He does
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>tfw my one friend will bitch about me playing Duck Hunt just like he currently does when I play Toon Link, Peach, Samus, or Olimar.
How one man can get styled on by turnips for so long is truly an enigma.
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>>263316257
Someone's mad they got hunted by DA CUNT
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best new character
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>duck hunt's moveset is all references to NES light gun games
thats pretty clever
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>>263316525

Allergies.
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>>263316510

People talk like pocket is some type of god-tier move. It has decent utility but it's no shine/tornado/grenade
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>>263316510
so does Mr. Game and Watch, Mario, Fox and Falco, Palutena, Megaman, Ness, Yoshi, Kirby, Dedede, and probably a lot of others I am forgetting.
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>>263316902
combined with the gyroid and tree, it pretty much makes using projectiles useless against any competent villager user
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>>263316902
It's got mad invincibility frames and can at least completely negate Link's final smash with good timing
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He's really fun to play as though, the clay pigeon attack ruins people who don't try to avoid it.
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>>263316732
He's essentially Mr. Light Gun, to go along with Mr. Game & Watch, Mr. Capcom and Mr. Namco.
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>>263316257

>two-part character that makes no sense (why the fuck is a duck teaming up with a hunting dog)

In another thread, someone posted saying it would have been cool if the duck and dog were actually fighting each other and their moves involved everyone else just getting caught in the crossfire.
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>>263316921
>Kirby, Dedede
They can only swallow most items, not attacks. Even if they could swallow the barrel, they would take damage and be left wide open for attack.
You also forgot Wario, who this also applies to.
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>>263316230
i don't know about you, but that dog has a funny face
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>character that was known for being a little fucker prior to being in Smash is a little fucker in Smash

Well, shit I should hope so man
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>>263314871
gonna main this based mother fucker
stay mad, best newcomer this series has ever had
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>>263316257
>getting flustered about a cool out of left-field character with an original moveset

Yeah but at least we got Dark Pit, right?
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>>263316257
>>not even a character by any means, just a piece of moving scenery
Mr Game Watch didn't exist, he was made for Melee, an amalgamation of the G&W series.
>two-part character that makes no sense (why the fuck is a duck teaming up with a hunting dog)
Characters have to make sense now?
>>stupid special moves like spawning a guy from another game entirely that shoots a gun and disappears
What's wrong with that?
>>asked for by nobody
Well fuck you too.
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>>263316921
Not everyone can handle the same type of projectiles. (energy based or not). Even then pocket has plenty of invincibility frames, and great range
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>>263315254
Can you pocket the Wild Gunman?
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>>263314871
>Gives mega man next to no good zoning abilities
>Gives him abilities that in general just dont mesh well
Th-Thanks Sakurai, it's totally not obvious Duck Hunt will be your new Kid Icarus.
At least we might get a new Banjo Kazooie out of this, but knowing Sakurai he wont even give us that
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>>263318935
>Well fuck you too.

Not even that guy, but you can't seriously believe that anyone wanted the dog from Duck Hunt as a playable character, that's even further left field than WFT. People got used to the idea of him after he was leaked and his name started floating around a few months ago, but no one actively wanted him before that.
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>>263316589
>>263318571
Personally I'm just confused, everyone complained about WiiFit for similar reasons but no one is complaining about this guy
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>>263319381
>hype as fuck for megaman
>get demo
>megaman is a fucking let down
Thanks Samurai
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>>263319714
Mr. Game & Watch and ROB were both cool, so I'm willing to give WFT and DHD a chance.

However, giving us Dr. Mario back is just inexcusable.
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>>263320068
Why? People used Dr Mario way more than Mario.

Are you one of those dipshits that think clones take up slots when they take as much effort as an alternate costume?
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>there are people who cannot utilize Megaman properly
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>>263317651
If Mega Man is Mr. Capcom, when does he shout Objection or throw a hadouken?
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>>263319381
Nah, Kid Icarus had lots going for it with another game and everything he has in Smash is based/derivative on his games too. Duck Hunt is just an old light gun game whose character in Smash barely even references Duck Hunt, he's more like Mr Game & Watch in that he's an amalgamation of Nintendo light gun games.
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>>263314871
If Villager pockets the can, can he hit it over and over like DHD can?
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>>263319391
>Not even that guy, but you can't seriously believe that anyone wanted the dog from Duck Hunt as a playable character, that's even further left field than WFT.
That's false, I've seen a hell of a lot more suggestions for the DHD as a playable character than WFT.
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>>263319381
I can't use anybody regardless because the 3ds controls are so awful, especially the circle pad.

I bet I can play a good megaman using a GC controller, his aerials are good and even has bar none the best meteor smash of all, it's not hard to hit with it at all like all the others.
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>>263320501

I don't think he does though, but he does Sure-you-can.
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is there any footage of this guy easily available or do I have to hop into a stream
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>>263319714
I think they're different situations with different factors adding to the reactions. It's hard to put into words, but I know someone knows what I mean
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>>263321007
It probably just explodes immediately.
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>>263320501
>If Mega Man is Mr. Capcom
he's not, he doesn't have anything that wasn't in the megaman games, I can't remember if he had a shoryuken-like move in the first series but X has it.
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>>263316257
>>263319714
I'm cool with more NES representation no matter who it is. I'm glad ROB came back and a big love letter to the Zapper Light Gun is very welcome, in my mind. Plus the dog and duck are just as cute as a button.
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>>263316257

Takamaru please go

Your not legendary Retro status to be in Smash you faggot
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>>263321180
What do you mean? You unlock him by playing as a Mii.
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>>263316732

>tfw no Gumshoe reference
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>>263321486
>Plus the dog and duck are just as cute as a button.

Yes, I too am looking forward to the porn.
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>>263319952
>>263319381

Hey faggots

How about actually getting good? Megaman isn't that fucking hard to use you fucking casuals

It's fucking Megaman, play him like fucking Megaman
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So who's gonna rep the Power Glove in Smash 5?
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>>263321084
>has bar none the best meteor smash of all, it's not hard to hit with it at all like all the others
Yeah man with that 10 year wind up and abysmal range/hitbox, how isn't it the best meteor
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>>263314871

I'm glad we're getting more Zoning based characters. Smash ahs always been a rushdown based game so it's nice to have characters that specialize in Zoning now.

I enjoyed using all of the Zoning based characters in PSASBR and it's nice to have them in SSB4.

I'll probably end up maining DH or Megaman.
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>>263321887
Megaman sucks in smash 4 based off of this demo.

Low tier inc.
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>>263319714
>>263319714

Because people loved the NES but hated the Wii. I love both characters to be honest
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>>263321940
>Yeah man with that 10 year wind up
What? It's almost instant.
> and abysmal range/hitbox
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What are you on, it has WAAAAY higher range than any other meteor smash that only reaches like 1 fucking pixel away from the character, most noticeably Mario's shitty punch that never ever has hit anyone in the history of ever.
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>>263321887

or he's just not that good
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>>263321180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjIBCYcZuyk&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ
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>>263321887
I'm trying too, but I cant spam pellets while up close, hit enemies effectively while far away, and faggots keep sticking my bomb back onto me, I mean what the hell, that wasn't in megaman
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>>263321887
Fucking this, he's not even that hard to get used to. The charge buster can be fucking deadly at times, the Air Shooter is fucking godlike and the Hard Knuckles fucking kills.
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I read somewhere that PK Freeze is one of Ness' custom moves, is this true?
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>>263321603
I was asking for a video to see how he plays

and that's a rather anticlimactic way to unlock him
oh well at least it'll be easy
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>>263314871
>there are people that unironically hate duck hunt

Are you kidding me?
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>>263322187

there's a noticeable windup on his dair. Compared to someone like falco, it's way slower
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>>263322308
yes.
>>263322454
it's like half a sec long, it lasts the same or even less than say, Mario's.
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>>263322342
All the unlocks are pretty boring. They should've made the starting roster half the size of what it is.
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>>263322187
It has links down air tier hit box, and dont you notice mega man does the thing that happens in game when you fire the Hard Knuckle? He freezes up for a second after doing the wind up animation
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>>263315052
>competitive smash players
>adapting
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>263322238
thanks m8
looks interesting
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>>263322643
You can hit people without having to be outright touching them like you have to for every other meteor smash, it's retardedly easy hitting someone with it and it's pretty much the only way I'm getting KOs with Megaman besides FS.
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Fly in from the top, man.
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>>263321375
I think it's from Megaman the Power Battle, the megaman fightan game
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>>263322304
How do you play him
Charge buster being deadly at times isn't good enough, most moves are deadly at times.

Air shooter and hard knuckle reuquire you to be able to get them in a position where you can use it in the first place
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>>263322628
people like Yahtzee were complaining that there was too much shit to unlock and that it took too long, especially Sonic who needs all 11 hours of SSE or grinding hundreds of 1-life battles like a retard.
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>>263322308

ALL of Lucas's specials are in Ness's options.
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>>263323101
This is the new casual gamer who would rather everything just be DLC than having to work for it.
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>>263322657
>competitive smash
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>263323067
>Charge buster being deadly at times isn't good enough
It's deadly at all times, the issue is of course hitting someone with it.
>>263323247
but it isn't about skill, it's about tedious grinding. SSB4 just has way less tedious grinding.
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>>263314871
So just dont get hit by the projectiles and punish?
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>>263322201
The game hasn't even been out for a week.
We wont really know if he's any good until people figure out any/all gimmicks. Another 5 years probably
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>>263314871
He's just Snake.

Also, why does this surprise you? The character is famous for mocking you.
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And the "Most Worthless B Move" award goes to...
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>>263314871
needs 4000x4000 resolution.
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>>263314871
He's like Snake, but he's smaller and faster and less damaging and more annoying.
10/10
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>>263322657
more like meleefags

Smash 4 will bring a whole new tourneyscene now that Nintendo's getting their hands dirty. I for one look forward to all customization, stages, and items on tourneys
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>>263323420
It isn't about grinding either, for some people its about the surprise. I remember the first time I unlocked NESS in ssb I shat bricks. And actually having to fight for an unlock is the best shit ever.
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>>263323067
Stay away at most times.
Start the match by throwing a Metal Blade and a Crash Bomb.
Keep people at bay with Charge Beam
If the get close, hit them with Flame Blast or Spark Shock
If Spark Shock use Air Shooter to keep them up in the sky
If Flame Blast use Hard Knuckle to spike them
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>>263324068
>for some people its about the surprise
That's impossible no matter what thanks to the internet being waaaaay more present in our lives than when 64 came out.
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>>263323976
4U
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>>263324068
>And actually having to fight for an unlock is the best shit ever.
but nearly all if not every character in the series can be unlocked by grinding or just beating classic.
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>>263323801

you don't have to study a game for years to notice bad traits. All of his b moves except rush are shit (custom moves might change that. His neutral a is shit. His tilts are shit. His air moves are just ok with 2 being super situational. He is a bad character overall. He is by far the worst character in the demo
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>>263324271
If I wasn't the type that likes spoilers I'm sure I could avoid them.
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>Dark Pit added to the game
>yet no Lucas

It just doesn't make sense. I would have taken another Mother 3 character if they didn't want a Ness clone, but this is just the worst of both worlds.
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>>263324068
I remember having a friend that called Ness Nessie. Every time he said you could unlock Nessie I thought he was talking about pic related and for months thought it could actually be unlocked because I was a gullible little shit.
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>>263319381
I like megaman a lot, after realizing that his smashes are better than his B attacks.
>useless leaf shield
But his tilt down is pretty useful and his tilt up has huge launch potential from what I've seen.
Besides, his up air is fucking god tier if used well from how I've been playing
tl;dr >git gud
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>>263324449
By that I meant actually having to fight the character you want to unlock. Even if I already know that the character is in the game, actually having kicking their asses to keep them is fun and rewarding.
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>>263324774
What annoys me is that Lucas and Ninten aren't costumes. Why does BJ get all 7 Koopalings, Olimar gets Alph and Ness doesn't even get Lucas?
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>>263324967
Ness has Ninten's outfit.

Because they look exactly the same.
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>>263316257
>>two-part character that makes no sense (why the fuck is a duck teaming up with a hunting dog)
Because they wanted to put banjo&kazooie into Kerfluffle but microshit said 'no' at the last second.
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>>263324967
Because they didn't give a fuck.
Seriously the 3DS version at least seems half-assed.
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>>263318123
but can he handstand?
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>>263316230
He's so generic he could be anything really. From mastiff to beagle.
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>>263324967
So much for the anniversary.
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>>263314871
>Mega Man finally gets into Smash
>This fucker also gets in and is somehow a better projectile spammer and zoning character than Mega Man

T-thanks, sakurai...
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>>263324967
>ness gets pk freeze and lucas's other specials as customs
>no lucas alt
t-thanks sakurai
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>>263316357
Because he was super shit with slow start ups and a huge heavy frame that can be harassed for days. He had a few cool players. That shell had to be good for something
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>>263324967
koopalings already had models so they just ported them from mario cart
ninten and ness have the sam color scheme
lucas could have been ported over as a second alt but idk that would have taken away some time that was dedicated for d pit
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Where are the fucking fools who said this game was a "mix of melee and Brawl"?

Niggas are surviving at 160% like it's fucking nothing, getting smash attacked and recovering.
The standard is 2 stocks because the games are so slow.
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>>263324009
>>263323802
>He's like Snake
Hell fucking yeah, gonna miss Sneaking Man, but if his moveset has (somewhat) returned, then I can't be too salty.
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>>263325786

general consensus is that blast zones are too far
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>>263323915
Git gud
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>>263325446
welcome to the party pal
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>>263325258
> 3DS version
> half assed

Why do i enjoy eating shit so much? Why do i keep bothering with Smash threads.
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>>263324043
This is what I'm happy about.Nintendo won't do melee style tournaments, they'll do all items, all stages etc and people will need to adapt or not play in Nintendo sponsored tournaments.
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>>263325786
What's funny is that the new huge blast zones and edge guarding not being a thing makes far off stage hitters like Jiggs, Kirby and Meta Knight even better.

Willing to be my cock Meta Knight is top tier again.
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>>263326003
>Leaf Shield is only good for Villager because he can use other attacks before using Leaf Shield
My fucking sides.
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>>263316230
Basset hound. Y'know, the hunting dog.
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>>263326073
Pretty sure MK got nerfed to shit IIRC.
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>>263316257
Oh and many people asked for Wii Fit Trainer. Shut the fuck up.
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>>263326380
>nerfed to shit
He got nerfed to reasonability.
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So what colors do people like using?
I love using Metal Blade Mega Man myself.
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Still gonna use the shit out of Lil Mac regardless of tiers. Before smash 4 even started getting spoiled, I had two characters I wanted in more than anything. Lil Mac was one.
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>>263326523
Oh, and his new Up-B has ludicrous vertical gain.
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>>263326876
I was hyped for Little Mac as well, but I hate the whole "weak in the air, strong on the ground" mechanic

Whenever they try this kind of shit with fighters, the weakness always seems to vastly outweigh whatever strength they try to give them to make up for it. It just ends up ruining the character
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>>263326876
My nigga. I'm looking for good gameplay footage of his, I wanna see a decent player playing him.

I think he has a decent shot, the game seems so focused on ground play, trading big blows all the time, the lil troopa might have a chance.

Also, how does one unleash his k.o uppercut after it's charged?
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>>263326876
Seems like Mac is a bit like Ness was in 64. Extremely powerful on stage, but dead the second he's forced to recover.
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>>263327376
Usually takes a game or two to offset the negatives. Like Kirby. And Bowser.

That said, we have potential for patching so who knows, God willing.
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>>263326068
Then the game will die in a year. Nobody worth a shit is going to play a game where the winner can be decided by blind luck. Then the tourney scene won't have any dedicated players.
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>>263327376
except he's absolutely beast on the ground
and his air isn't too bad but it's definitely pale in comparison to everybody else
granted this is based off the E3 demo build and may be different
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>>263327479
The thing is I think that alone might spell doom for him.
In Sm4sh everyone has the ability to recover from absolutely ludicrous distances, but if Mac gets knocked off the stage any considerable distance, he's done for. He has practically zero horizontal recovery.
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>>263327596
So you're saying Smash players aren't clutch?
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>>263326068
You really think so?

They'll play what they like. They'll crowd fund their own tournaments, or, you know, just participate in the one yearly Nintendo event, but during the rest of the year do their own shit.

Imposing your rules on other people doesn't work. They have a very specific way to play in the game in mind, and that's fine.
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>>263316230
Probably a Bloodhound mix.
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>>263327384
JUST as I type this the vgbootcamp had a beastly Mac who 2-0'd the other guy, taking his second stock with an uppercut that KO'D at like 30% [after adding another 30% on top]
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>>263314871
>Zoning
To all you smash players,Please don't use word you can never understand.

Sincerely the FGC.
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>>263328479
Link please?
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>>263319381
>At least we might get a new Banjo Kazooie out of this
What could possibly lead you to think that?
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>>263328483
get zoned nerd
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>>263319714
It's because Duck Hunt is a classic and it's weird that it took so long for it to get some representation in Smash. That dog laugh is so iconic that the frustration it caused is still ingrained in the public consciousness.
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>>263319391
While he wasn't as big as Ridley he got requests, just not many because he seemed so odd and unlikely. People even made movesets for him.
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>>263329249
twitch tv/vgbootcamp


they keep switching chars tho
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>>263329706
But they didn't even give him the right laugh
He sounds like that one fuzzy cartoon dog
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>>263326003
b-b-but muh brawl 2.0! muh shine wavedash
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>>263330020
Thanks
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>>263326003
Git gud at what? Using leaf shield as villager?
If anything this is a better argument for leaf shield being bad then good
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>>263328483
Please make a proper attempt at the English language before you post. Faggot.
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people sleeping on naruto frog
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>>263321938
Fuck that, Virtual Boy rep coming through!
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>>263330203
>fuzzy cartoon dog

So he sounds perfect, then?
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>R.O.B happens, people get mad
>First gameplay appears. everyone loves R.O.B
>WFT happens, people get mad
>First gameplay appears, everyone loves WFT
>Duck Hunt dog happens, people get mad
>First gameplay appears, everyone loves Duck Hunt dog

Every goddamn time, I think the only character that will conserve its heat is Pitwo
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>>263330203
He was already basically Mutley from Wacky Races, the laugh in Smash fits perfectly even if it isn't the exact clip from Duck Hunt.
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>>263331508
Do you even know which on I'm talking about
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>>263332131
>Mutley is playable
>Dick Dastardly is an Assist Trophy
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>>263331694
I still hate WFT.
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>>263321375
>one of his specials is the hahd ook ken
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I'm just glad this Smash has so many new and unique movesets. It more than makes up for the two new crappy clones.
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>>263330203
Muttley.
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>>263331694
Niggapit added nothing to the table.
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>>263332179
No, and I don't care.

He's a fuzzy cartoon dog, and he sounds like one. What's wrong with that?
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I hope I'm not the only one eagerly awaiting the rule 34 of DA CUNT fucking all the smash waifus.
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>>263333504
>Not Dacunt + Duck OTP

I bet you also fap to NTR
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>>263333778
>Want Dacunt + Duck

Sorry to hear that you're a fucking furry.
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>>263326003
that would have worked with literally any other projectile. leaf shield is shit
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>>263325446
Is the red head supposed to be the girl from the graveyard?
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>>263333049

Edge Pit's theme is pretty sick but that's about it.

>mfw the Koopalings are fucking skins yet are thousands of times more hype than Black Pit who got his own slot.

He's doomed to be the black sheep of this game. Well, at least that fits his theme.
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>>263331694
I hate WFT and always will, along with the Miis. Smash 4 is probably the first Smash game that I've hated some of the newcomers.
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>>263334727
If Dark Pit was actually hype I'd be fine with him. He just seems to be Pit with weaker arrows.
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>>263334460
She punches tigers in the face and ain't afraid of anything
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>>263317710
>ideaguying this hard

how the fuck would that even work, jesus I've seen some shit but this is an honorable mention
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>>263334460
Yes.
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>>263315281
And Villager too.
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>>263316230
Some sort of mutt. Probably some sort of scent hound (maybe a coonhound) mixed with a retriever. It's a cartoon dog, I highly doubt there's any canon breed for him.
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>>263318571
I'm actually more mad about Dr Mario returning, and that some characters still don't have new Final Smashes (see: Toon Link, Falco, etc.)
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