>FUCK YOU, Nintend! how dare you release a slightly more powerful system that has exclusive games!
>You should just keep making game boy games forever!
People are pissed off because the upgrades are so minor it just shouldn't have been made. I would gladly buy a new system with actual spec improvements not just slight improvements. The screen improvement seems like the best thing but its not really such a huge leap.
Also the exclusive games won't be anything special, just some freeware games or some games will feature the nipple control and allow cam movement.
People need to stop freaking out about that.
>FUCK YOU, Nintend! how dare you release a slightly more powerful system that has exclusive games!
>You should just keep making game boy games forever!
Honestly though, I don't understand why Nintendo thought this was a good idea, it just divides the market place. I mean who the fuck (besides Nintendo) would develop for an upgraded system with no users compared to one that has an install base of 43million units
No they aren't. If this was just another revision everyone would be laughing at Nintendo about how they're releasing another revision.
The hate is that it's going to get exclusive titles. Which we completely have no idea how many the system will have except for one ugly port of Xenoblade.
Once they announce a new Metroid or StarFox exclusively for this thing, everyone will be completely validated to bitch. But until then, every NEET on this board is upset that they can't scrounge the money up in a year to get it for one so-far comfirmed exclusive.
You realize they did this with the Game Boy right? Is everyone here fucking serious?
Is it actually an exclusive? Or are people speculating badly? I assume they just showed it off as a way to sell more of these things since it probably plays well with the camera nipple
I got 3ds day one then the xl a few months ago because broken shoulder buttons. Now this bs. If I didn't get the xl id be ok with it...maybe. Instead of a slight upgrade they should work on a brand new one fuck that 10-20% CPU shit. What's next wiiu2? Turning into Apple.
Think about this from the standpoint of a developer
>we could release this game with slightly easier to use controls
>or we could develop for the system everyone already has
A handful of games will use the nipple and and new shoulder
They will also probably be able to be controlled using the touchscreen in the same way
stop blowing your angerload over nothin m8s
>literally no one complaining about it
>threads everyday with people complaining about it
That's the nature of /v/ consolewar threads.
We have people bashing it in one thread, people defending it in another, and a small group of people who want to just talk about the system but their thread grts derailed by haters.
Even if they don't have jobs, it's only $180. If they do all their chores and save up allowance they should have enough money to buy a New 3DS before it's even released in the west.
You're comparing today to the 90's. It doesn't work that way. The technology to make the GBC much like the new 3DS, could be done in the time it's predecessor came out, but they couldn't be made without losing money. The only reason they're releasing the new 3DS is because they found a cost effective way to produce it much like GBC. It's like you're trying to say technology grew just as fast today as in the 90's.
Are you people seriously retarded?
GB to GBC wasn't a minor upgrade like you're God damn implying.
The only thing I can think of that explains Nintendo's decision to release a New 3DS is they're trying to encourage more 3rd party company's to develop for them.
Currently the only decent games that people want to buy are mostly 1st party games, this is great for the customers but bad for Nintendo considering they make most of their money from licensing. So to get the players to buy the new systems they have to release exclusive first party titles.
I just bought a refurbished one from the nintendo website cause all the ones around me are more expensive
I'm a little ticked off that they're gonna release a new system, but it probably wont come stateside for a while
Originally the Gameboy color WAS supposed to be a minor upgrade, the GBA was originally was supposed to be released in 1999 but due to the GBC being a market success it was pushed back.
It wasn't a huge upgrade though. They added the color screen, obviously. And a fasted processor i believe.
I had a GBC. Loved it, but there weren't a ton of games made exclusively for the GBC. The new 3DS is a little silly to me, but i'll probably pick one up probably 2 years after it debuts, and gets some games.
The name itself is the fucking dumbest part. Nintendo needs to fire their entire marketing department. The only thing they've done well is the E3 Treehouse event.
Wouldn't going from the GBC to GBA be a better comparison?
That was like a 3 year difference.
>Win handheld wars because your only competition is a retarded turtle
>Continually fuck up with simple shit like just naming products
>mfw this shit will reach critical mass one day and the great gaming crash will be upon us
>Every console/handheld/hardware thread is a shitflinging contest between LOL WHAT ARE YOU POOR LOL BABBY PLEASE GET A REAL JOB and THIS SHIT IS UNACCEPTABLE FUCK M$/SONY/NINTENDO _____ FANS WILL DEFEND THIS
>The only games discussion on /v/ is about feminism which is an even worse circlejerk
>nintendo just released 2DS a year ago
>here's another 3DS that's objectively better in every way and also has better capability than all others and ALREADY has a fucking exclusive
This is an anti-consumerist bullshit stunt I would expect from fuckin Microsoft, for Christs sake, really Nintendo?
Anybody else have that one Nintendrone friend who's 100% ok with this?
The Japanese market probably understands the marketing perfectly, it's just when they try to bring the same principles to another culture.
I'm sure NoA was probably against this bullshit, but knowing old Japanese business men they probably were trying their damned hardest to push this stupid bullshit.
Why do you think /vg/ and /vr/ were created ? /v/ IS the containment board
>mfw I waited
Suck it, compulsive buyers. Now I get to enjoy MH4U without needing a tumor-looking addon
>9 year lifespan for original GB
>GBC cost like $70
I'm not even mad about New 3DS but it's hardly comparable.
>nintendo says they won't ever make a 3ds revision as they were happy with the original 3ds
>fragments the fanbase
>nintendo fanboys are glad the 3dsxl didn't come with a second circle pad because it would fragment the fanbase and screw over everyone who bought the 3ds
>"OH NINTENDO, YOUR SECOND NUB FEELS SO GOOD UP MY ASS"
No they have not. Nintendo has always made revisions with improvements that were optional. You were never locked out of new games because you bought an old version.
The one exception was the DSi, which introduced DSiware. It was slightly more powerful than the DS and had content exclusive to it through the DSi store.
The New 3DS is another DSi, except Nintendo will be making new retail exclusive games for it and pushing it as hard as they can.
Want to know why this won't be some shit revision you can ignore? Because they have to pay royalties for the old 3DS now.
This also falls align with their new strategy of finding alternative source of revenues outside of games. The New 3DS with its faceplate accessories and the NFC reader actually being incorporated into the system so they can really push Amiibos on it and the Wii U.
The NEW 3DS was built more out of desperation than actual design.
>Anybody else have that one Nintendrone friend who's 100% ok with this?
Look at this thread, look at OP
I know someone who bought the 3DS at launch, then the zelda 3DS, then the 3DS XL and finally the D2S and is thinking about getting that mario 3DS. I'm pretty sure he'll get that new 3DS too
I only own one
the original 3ds was too small, so I waited for the superior 3dsxl
then the 2ds came out and I laughed at how shit it is
now is a good time for an upgrade, just in time for the new systems to come out
>FUCKING NINTENDO! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT 1 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY IS OUTDATED AS FUCK?! WHY CANT YOU UPGRADE TO THIS NEW PROCESSOR THAT GIVES THE GAMEBOY AN ASININE PERFORMANCE BOOST? WHY DONT YOU RELEASE A GAMEBOY EVERY YEAR WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY? OF COURSE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP BUYING IT AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE UP TO DATE!
if anything this will serve to extend the 3ds lifespan since without this we'd get a fully new handheld probably in 2016, but with this there will still be games for 3ds well for a few years longer. i doubt there will be very many n3ds exclusives, just a few here and there.
I just realised, Nintendrones are actually like Applefags
I agree full heartedly, both this and the wii u have a terrible name
the wii u should have been the ultra nintendo entertainment system, and this should have been the 3DS control or something
Go ahead and be totally okay with this, nintendo fanboys, and keep using "LOL U POOR?" ad hominems, but you completely lost the right to criticize shit like iphone upgrades if you eat this garbage.
>ITT: NEETfags justifying their inability to spend a measly $200 for a direct upgrade.
>Released nine years after the GB, entirely new generation
>Released three/four years after the 3DS, not an entirely new generation
Whoever makes this analogy needs to stop posting. Immediately.
As a Nintendo-mostly owner myself, I agree that a huge part of the fanbase act just like Applefags in the sense that they LOVE to waste money on every new console Nintendo shits and just throw their 2-year-old console to the trashcan. The dude in the video portrays the situation pretty well.
It's pretty sad how far it has gone.
I can see why people would be angry.
I was gonna get a XL last Christmas, Zelda one, but I ran out of money. If I had bought it, would I be angry now. FUCK YES. But since I still have my 3DS from release, I'm actually relieved, as long as they do not release a new one next year.
That would be a great idea...if your account wasn't tied to the system, but it is, meaning you can't simply sign in your account again to get all your stuff back, and if you sell your console to get a new one, you'll lose all your digital games.
current 3dsxl is 200 dollars. I don't see the new 3dsxl being 200 dollars unless some massive price drops happen.
And since when in a handheld system have upgrades like this ever been acceptable after 4 years?
Oh wait, you're just going to respond with "LOL POORFAG"
Wops, forgot the vid
/ watch?v = Qw2jT-GLOY0
2DS wasn't an upgrade, I'm refering to the XL, but there are still idiots who bough one because it was new or for stupid shit like better shoulder controls.
No shit, stupid. that's not the issue.
The issue is that this is so absolutely abrupt and out of nowhere, and it is quickly coming. There are probably millions of people who bought new XL's, 2DS's or regular 3DS's for Smash and all of that, and now they're pulling this shit for no reason. There was even a kid who posted a pictureof his receipt for a new XL he bought yesterday for Smash. The 3DS is selling great and they know it, but they decide to fuck everyone over and put out something objectively better and easier to develop for.
I guarantee you it's gonna get an important game that everyone is gonna get pissed off over, like a new Metroid or Pokemon gen.
And if you're the kind of mongoloid to spout LOL POORFAG BUTTMAD you're the exact kind of idiot this product is for: spoiled manchildren with no perspective on expenses.
>what, are you so poor you can't afford the new 3ds without trading in you old one for it?
>Gameboy was out for 9 years when GBC released
>3DS not even out for four.
>BUT THE GBA!
The GBA was also cut short in a shitty way.
It's terrible for current 3DS owners no matter what way you slice it, and bad for others when nintendo feels like releasing more 3ds systems in four years than EA does Madden games.
Man, I keep hearing justifications like
"well my 3ds is worn out anyways"
"good, my shoulder button isn't working"
"I bought the 3ds at launch and wanted to upgrade anyways"
What the fuck? What happened to nintendium hardware that could last through an atomic blast, you people are just tossing out your barely few years old hardware like it's already out of date.
The Vita is dead and now there's a hole in the market that Nintendo wants to use, but nobody wants to develop for the 3DS because of the hardware and controls, you can't fucking port a franchise from another system when the control scheme is completely different and the hardware is underpowered, and you want people to buy the new system so you release exclusives.
I'm just pissed about having to do ANOTHER system transfer.
>Owned a 3ds when it first came out (terrible mistake, the original sucked ass)
>Got an XL about 2 years ago, loved it, but I had to buy the XL, bring it home, system transfer my shit, bring the XL and the old one back to gamestop, return it, sell the old 3DS, then rebuy the XL with the credit.
The assholes at gamestop gave me so much shit for trying to return it to. I explained to them step by step what I was going to do, asked them if it was cool. The guys working said it'd be fine, but when I got there they couldn't figure out shit. I never worked at gamestop, but refund/rerings are pretty common in retail.
>clock speed of approximately 8 MHz, twice as fast as that of the original Game Boy. The Game Boy Color also has three times as much memory as the original (32 kilobytes system RAM, 16 kilobytes video RAM)
>infrared port, but who cared about that
Duh, nintendo releases model revisions, that's nothing new, but fragmenting the userbase with exclusivity like this is retarded.
Should have waited at least another 3 years and just made a next gen handheld
nintendo ran out of nintendium after the dsphat
>Buy the new one
>Bring it home do your transfer
>Bring both back
>Return the new one
>Sell the old one
>Rebuy the new one using the store credit.
Ask them first about it like >>260705674
Because gamestop employees can be braindead as shit sometimes.
If you don't want to constantly transfer your data, stop being a retarded fickle consumer that buys every iteration of the same hardware.
How simple is that, you don't have to buy everything nintendo puts out and throw out the old
The point is it shouldn't have to be this complicated. Why can't I just log into my account and get all my games back easily like I did when my Vita broke and I had to get a new one?
And it's not just Sony. I'm not familiar with XBL, but I'm assuming it's the same way (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not claiming this as truth). If your PC died, after getting a new one you could just sign into Steam and get all your old games back easily. Why is it just Nintendo that makes it so difficult?
There are people who are planning to/have already put their money towards the Smash 3DS bundle. Once it comes out, they have less than a year until it goes obsolete. The fucking thing has a godawful name and it already has a fucking exclusive. This is literally something Apple would do.
>>infrared port, but who cared about that
Why did they never use that? Was it just not reliable enough, or did they just say "hey, let's waste consumer dollars for hardware features maybe one game will every use"
DS was 04
DS lite was 06
DSi was 08.
So you had 4 years between the DS and DSi.
There were a couple differences. The DSi didn't really have too much of a hardware bump when it came to the games, it just had updated software to do some more digital stuff, so the DSi games were largely digital-only and small in scope. There were like 3 DSi only carts and 2 of them never left Japan.
This is different because they bumped the main hardware some but not a lot, but they intend to put a number of carts out on it.
It's the same as the DSi at best (Which, while not great, is decidedly neutral).
At worst, we're looking at sega-tier bullshit where 3DS is abandonware.
>Implying i bought a 2DS
I'm not totally sold on the new 3DS either, but if it ends up having a solid amount of games exclusive to it, I'm gonna buy it. The only reason I bought the XL is because the old 3DS was so small and it made my hands cramp up like a motherfuck.
>Why can't I just log into my account and get all my games back easily l
because people would abuse by giving their friends their information so they could download the games they bought
Because then the games would still be on the old handheld, and nintendo doesn't want people buying used 3dses with free digital games, which apparently would be a problem with how fickle you people are and how often I guess you toss out your old hardware just for a bigger screen or some shit
To be fair though the XL was a nice upgrade.
The 2DS made sense because parents were worried about little Timmy fucking his eyes up with the 3D effect. (I know you could disable it, but the average consumer doesn't read the owners manual, or check around the settings.)
>Even at four full years 5 versions of one system in four years is atrocious.
not really, these are the first upgrade
the xl just made the 3ds bigger
the 2ds just removed the 3d
this is the first time they actually improved the core 3ds model
Ok, but which one of these justifies buying one if you already have the DS? I mean, all the power to them for introducing new models, but the DSi isn't in the same league as this.
This shouldn't be allowed, they done it in the past but that doesnt mean it isn't wrong when exclusive bullshit happens. Specially when the 2ds excuse was "cheaper and that allows to play 3ds games". Now those kids and people who bought the cheaper version can get kicked in the ass if some of their favorite series are exclusive to the "new" console.
Worst is how in 3 years is possible that Nintendo has an actually new portable console.
Because of shit like that I am extra cautious and only buy consoles like 5 or 6 years after launch because of the revisions bullshit. Really, this bullshit revisions is the same thing they do with Pokemon A&B versions, worse is how consumers eat this because they can't control themselves.
Mate, unless they decide to bring back the name next generation because they go full "core gamer" with no quality of life bullshit and don't want to associated to the wii, The Nintendo naming pattern of _NES is dead. UNES will never happen.
>Gameboy pocket (Redesign only) 1996
>Gameboy Light (Redesign only) 1998
>Gameboy Color (New system) 1998
>Gameboy Advance (New System) 2001
>Gameboy Advanve SP (Redesign only) 2003
>DS (New system) 2004
>Gameboy Micro (Redesign only) 2005
>DS Lite (Redesign only) 2006
>DSi (Redesign/ semi new system. Only 'exclusive' titles for it where download only) 2008
>DSi XL (Redesign only) 2009
>3DS (New system) Announced 1 month before DSi release, released 2011
>3DS XL (Redesign) 2012
>2DS (Redesign) 2013
>New 3DS 2014/2015
Theyve been jewing people since the Advance SP launch. While this isnt new, they have been drastically speeding up their time table.
>because people would abuse by giving their friends their information so they could download the games they bought
Not really, no other company tends to have this be a big problem. Just do it like Sony does, allow the game to be downloaded to two different platforms only. Problem solved.
Like I said, this isn't a problem for ANYONE else. Why only Nintendo?
Even so, you can just deactivate the other system like how it works on PSN.
>They've still pumped out hardware at a rate that exceeds 1 per year, and that's ridiculous.
no, that's standard in portable devices
>psp 2000 - 2007
>psp 3000 - 2008
>psp go -2009
>psp street - 2011
>ps vita - 2012
>ps vita slim - 2013
There has never been only a slight improvement of a system that had exclusive games that "required" the slight improvements outside of Nintendo at the very least. It's not just jewing it's advanced jewing.
wtf is that?
Also, good job neglecting that there was a 3 year gap between the first psp and the second, and straight ignoring the DS release dates since that was four versions across six years.
Releasing at a rate greater than 1 per year is not the norm.
If there's even a next gen of handhelds from Nintendo, I know it'll be smarter to not even consider purchasing the handheld until many years later. That's not going to look good on their sales if a lot more people choose the same thing. Imagine too, people were enormously enraged that Sony released a slim version of everything but releasing three significantly different versions of the 3DS is okay, each one supposedly treating some issue of the previous model.
Most of the time they've added a few hardware features, like the SP's backlight and better mobility, or the DSi's gay little camera. The NewDS is flat out better in every way, and they're still pushing 3DS's while giving the NewDS promise of exclusives. I'm sure millions of kids are gonna get 3DS's for Christmas in 4 months and find out it's already obsolete.
Its bullshit that they gave us such short notice, because that means they already considered and now how well Smash is gonna move units but chose not to tell us. A 2016 release for the New would be acceptable but this is obnoxious.
Five. If a consumer were to look at the 3DS there will now be FIVE distinct variations on the system to choose from.
Really, I won't touch another nintendo handheld until its cycle is almost over. You can't trust them.
Shit, they even announced the XL like two weeks after saying no such thing would happen.
>If a consumer were to look at the 3DS there will now be FIVE distinct variations on the system to choose from.
no they won't because the new ones aren't out yet, and nintendo will faze out the old ones first
It would have to be a majority of the price off and full transfer of the memory from the old system. Otherwise no it wouldn't be, it's pretty damn scummy to try and push "new" hardware out when it's more like just a slight upgrade and say that games require the new stuff.
funny thing that nintendo had already technically finished the Game Boy Advance when they released the Game Boy Color, but they wanted the extra money ... so basically just today
please tell me you arnt so fucking dumb that you actually believe this.
Everything about the GBA launch and nintendo was weird. They REALLY just wanted to drag the gameboy color out to an extreme, but the wonderswan and NGPC kinda showed the market how bassackwards nintendo was keeping things.
it's more like the DSi, a slight upgrade and some games that'll be exclusive because of it, but not a new system because there is no new gimmick.
as someone with only the original 3DS I'll probably buy an XL version of the new one when it comes to the US, I've been thinking of upgrading anyway.
N3DS N3DSXL and 2DS.
Are you completely and utterly retarded? No one is going to stock an outdated model that has the same price as the new model, you colossal mongoloid.
>Ambassador program to reward early adopters
>XL comes out later
>People getting pumped for stuff like Smash and MH4U
>"New" 3ds is coming out
At least I know that after MH4U I won't need to buy anymore games for my 3DS.
>Talking to friend for the first time in a while yesterday
>he has been spending all the money from his job on paying for a car crash
>end up talking about smash bros
>tell him a few characters that got in
>tell him shulk got in
>"The guy from Xenoblade"
>he doesn't remember what that game is and looks it up
>starts talking about how he wanted to play it so badly but it was still around $40
>tell him they unveiled a new 3ds
>it has exclusive games
>he gets all upset about how bullshitty that is
>Tell him that xenoblade is it's first exclusive
>he only has owned his 3ds for around a year
>listen to his reaction
They got the worst version of the system, paid more, possibly dealt with the screen scratch issue or yellowed screens, and had to wait through all the long empty release periods, just to have the system be invalidated in less than 4 years.
Yeah, kinda sucks.
Yes. It is. Roughly calculated, 70 bucks in 1989 with current inflation would be around 150 burgerbuck around now. Which is the going rate for a standard 3DS.
Another fun fact to educate your inbred ass; every nintendo console has cost the same mount of money, considering inflation. AKA you paid the same amount of money for a NES as you do for a WII U, respectively.
>They got the worst version of the system, paid more, possibly dealt with the screen scratch issue or yellowed screens, and had to wait through all the long empty release periods, just to have the system be invalidated in less than 4 years.
that's the price you gotta pay to play games before poorfags like yourself
I bought a 3DS to play 3ds games, not just most 3ds games.
Not surprised that nintendo did something shitty like this, but still, I hate that supporting nintendo never seems to work out like it should.
Thats already happening now you shittershattered faget. Retailers are having massive sales on the 3DS right now.
They're getting rid of their stock in anticipation for the new model.
>Completely reasonable complain that they are making you pay for a new console every 3 if you don't want to be lft out of exclusive content
Fucking Nintendoshills are the worst
Nobody seems to think its weird that Nintendo is gonna have 2 different handhelds on the market at the same time because Nintendo can do no evil. /v/ yet again proves itself to be chock full of Nintendrones.
Or, you can back up your own claims to not appear as if you are full of shit.
If the clearance sales are so common it should take you less time than it would to argue against having to back up your own claims.
Time between the Game Boy pocket and the Game Boy color:
Time between the 3DS XL and the New 3DS:
It's exactly the same.
>implying everyone is going to sell their old one
I dropped money on a special edition, I'm sure as fuck not going to sell it. And why should the consumer take the burden when Nintendo fucked up first with an underpowered system? If they put some time into a new machine with a decent resolution and no shitty gimmick and maybe they'd have a deal.
It's called burden of proof.
You made the claim, the burden of proof falls on you. No proof, then there's no evidence that anything you said is true.
They teach this in grade school.
Come on, just do it. Pay over a hundred dollars for a special edition or whatever, then trade it in for a new system. Then trade that system in for the better one that comes out after. Rinse and repeat until the money you've spent on new handhelds becomes the equivalent of buying three more.
Oh sorry officer, I didn't realize greentext stories were a thing of the past
>Now add all the 3DS hardware releases in to your scale and see what you get.
there has been no other 3DS new hardware release since the XL. (The 2Ds is just as relevant as the gameboy Micro)
It's still 27 month.
On the contrary, it's perfectly accurate.
The Gameboy pocket was an improved version of the Gameboy, but still the same hardware.
The 3DS XL was an improved version of the 3DS, but still the same hardware.
The 3DS is basically the equivalent of the Game Boy Pocket.
Nintendo's whole strategy is in selling 'withered' hardware that costs less, has less potential problems, and that is easier to make into a rugged toy. If you really care about power and resolution you should be looking at PC or at least tablets but there you have an even faster hardware cycle. Even the PSV has hardware that looks like a joke compared to a $200 Nexus 7, one quarter the resolution, and a GPU that's several generations behind.
>there has been no other 3DS new hardware release since the XL. (The 2Ds is just as relevant as the gameboy Micro)
Way to highlight how much you know is wrong with your argument.
Really? What wondrous news! I'm glad the millions of other people will know this! They're so smart because they keep asking their parents to buy the newest model or they don't even know which model is which anymore. I'm sure everyone, including desperate parents and stupid kids and casuals, are concerned enough about this.
I have a gaming PC and a tablet, but I really enjoy a lot of the software available on Nintendo's consoles. I just don't like the hardware. It should at least be competitive with its contemporaries.
They should have just waited a year and announced a proper generational jump.
Companies always do shit like this, why is anyone surprised? I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sony announced a Vita 4000 or something
The 3DS was basically a portable with capabilities similar to the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Xbox consoles, when it launched mobile games were basically on par with Dreamcast because of space limitations and even now PS2 games are still difficult for many tablets to handle because of battery life concerns and storage space available. It was a good system when it launched, now we're getting effectively the 3DSi and while it doesn't keep up with modern tablets like the Nvidia Shield its going to show off its primary advantage of DVD sized storage with Xenoblade.
/vg/ was for very niche specific threads, not the atrocities it harbors now nor /co/'s idea of handling shit.
/vr/ same thing.
i would agree that if /v/ could actually discuss shit it wouldn't have to be this way, but it is mostly to do with being one of if not THE MOST popular board on the sight.
people that screamed like bleating cunts for a swift solution and got their quick fix in those three boards didn't think of the posterity of the site.
You're both idiots.
The time between GBPocket, a smaller but exactly the same Gameboy, and the GBCOLOR, a moderately enhanced system with better graphics and exclusive games, was 27 months. The same as 3DS to N3DS.
Not gameboy to gameboy pocket.
>Game Boy Color
>revolutionary upgrade in handheld technology, games are in color holy fuck it's like TVs all over again
>choppy 29 FPS games now play in a silky smooth 30 FPS
>character models can now have 10 more polygons
This just sets a fuckawful precedent where game console owners are willing to pay full price for an incremental hardware update that incentives the transition with exclusive games. Of course the existing audience is going to want to buy into this, they're essentially told their hardware is out of date, their current-gen system is old and busted, that they need to buy the *new* current-gen system.
And no, this isn't like the GBC or the DSi. The GBC was conceived as the next iteration in the Gameboy console line. The DSi was more comparable, but its purpose wasn't to outright replace the non-i DS systems.
This isn't comparable to phones either. The 3DS is a closed platform, there are only two handheld systems currently on the market. There's no need for an incremental upgrade arms race.
The New 3DS really is a slap in the face, and if people actually buy into it, this will set an awful precedent for console gaming as a whole. If this succeeds, we're all fucked.
fuck off and die damage control slaves
your fucking false analogies are pathetic.
No it isn't this is pretty normal for Nintendo.
GBA -> DS took about the same amount of time.
DS -> DSi took about the same amount of time as well.
DSi -> 3DS was an even shorter amount of time.
>Most GBC games could be played on the original Gameboy.
This factually wrong:
And this better not be your main argument. It can easily be predicted that the proportion of games "optimised for the new 3DS" being also playable on the normal 3DS will be far greater than the (little) proportion of gameboy color games also playable on the normal GB.
from a business point of view, it will be far more rentable to develop games thats till work on the two platform.
the only reason people are whining so much is because the extra power is going to be used for games too, if it was just used making the system go faster people wouldn't be bitchng more than wen a new redesing is released
>nintoddlers are this desperate to defend the Jew 3DS
The Diamond Dogs were right and we didn't listen
Can you imagine if Sony does this shit? PS4 Slim that has a boosted CPU and exclusive games? Then they release a PS4 Super Slim that has a better GPU? Nintendo is setting a really bad precedent with this shit, and it's disgusting to see the Nintendrones slurp it up so eagerly.
It's a fucking word I am not going to stop using even if some cunt use them too.
If I had to stop using every word used by every asshole I might ass wel start a brand new language.
You can play the same PSP games in PSP1000, PSP2000 and PSP 3000. You can play the same Vita games in the original Vita and Vita Slim
>inb4 vita >games
You can play the same ds games in the original DS, DS lite and DSi (with the exception of maybe 2 games). You can play the same GBA games in the original GBA and GBA SP
You can play the same 3DS games in the original 3DS, 2DS and N3DS. BUT you can't play N3DS games in the original 3DS and 2DS.
When did it become ok to make millions upon millions of thread to bitch about people spending THEIR money the way THEY choose instead of staying on your side of the fence and stop creating so much fucking division.
Every single game company is a jew, SURPRISE! We can find things to bitch about everyone so what exactly is the point? Should we nuke the entire gaming industry and make videogames illegal?
I agree, the GBC was a cashgrab because the colors were shit and you needed to be sitting on top of the fucking sun to see anything.
But it's what all the babbies on /v/ played when they were shut-in kids so they give it a free pass.
>if you don't like to be raped in the face being forced to buy a new iteration in order to enjoy the following library of games for 3ds, then you are a poorfag
You bunch of faggots are becoming as delusional as Sonyfags.
Strange, seeing as I have been there since 2008 and have never been active on Reddit. Aslo, who the fuck care? The whole point of 4chan is that anyone who came here can post.
>You can play the same ds games in the original DS, DS lite and DSi (with the exception of maybe 2 games). You can play the same GBA games in the original GBA and GBA SP
There is more game than that you can play on the DSi that you can't on the DS. And there is plenty of games on the GBC that you can't play on the GB.
Also, you are complaining about not being able to play a game that wouldn't even exist in the first place if the new version hadn't been made.
Are you upset that Nintendo is being insulted a lot because of this? You are aware this is a video game board and this is a hot button topic, right? I'm going to hazard a guess and say you don't complain about all the threads shitting on the PS4 or Vita.
More like what exactly is new about those business practice? I think everyone already know about this bullshit since the SP that they could have very well made as the very first GBA since the technology for backlit was already available way before the original GBA.
You fags always make your thread under the pretense of "uncovering the jew" but it's fucking obvious that all you'Re intereste din doing is saying "look everyone, I'm seeing the jew and you aren'T I'm such a wiser customer than you look at me everyone I'm so smart and you'Re so stupid!"
Seriously, just stop bitching it's helping NOBODY!
The GBC was 9 years after the GB and the DSi didn't have Nintendo getting dev support for it.
Even if it wasn't worth getting upset over, he still answered the question of what people are getting upset over. So yes, it is a "good answer".
I don't know what Nintendo are doing calling it n3ds. I had to explain to parents last year the difference between the DS and the 3DS because they just thought it was the same machine with a 3D gimmick added on it. Then they had problems with WiiU because people thought it was a Wii with a a tablet. Now they call it a n3ds.
I don't complain about consoles at all.
When I see a console that doesn't fit my demands, I don't buy it.
Are you mad that you're wasting your free time crying like a little bitch to strangers on the internet that won't even change their mind even if you cry like a little bitch?
You are totally fucking useless.
List those DSi games then (as far as I know, the amount was almost insignificant)
Also, I never mentioned GBC. We all know GBC is was a different console.
>Also, you are complaining about not being able to play a game that wouldn't even exist in the first place if the new version hadn't been made.
No. I'm complaining about Nintendo releasing a new console, horribly disguised as a "new iteration" with extra controls (we're not talking about a camera added, but actually a C-stick and 2 extra shoulder buttons which add more to gameplay), while also releasing games exclusive to this new iteration, pretty much alienating previous 3DS users.
I don't even own current handhelds, but seeing this piss me off a lot.
>So yes, it is a "good answer".
No it isn't.
Between the upgraded version og the Gameby (the gameboy pocket) everyone bought and the Gameboy color there was only 2 years.
Between the upgraded version of the 3DS (3DS XL) and the new 3Ds there was only 2 years.
It's the exact same deal than the Dsi and the GBC. His answer is not valid.
And don't bring the amount of game there. most editors will more than likely keep doing games that will work on the two consoles, to not have potential lost, meaning that the only gmae the Normal 3DS owner willl not get are game that wouldn't even have existed in the frirsqt place had the new version system not existed.
They called it New 3DS apparently to make everyone think it is just another 3DS, when so far it seem the same kind of change as NES -> Super NES
Games, hardware, and pretty much everything indicates that, with putting "New" to the name, they meant much more than New just because a new iteration: it's just a new handheld.
I don't know, were you in a coma for 48 hours?
His answer IS valid because it IS what people are getting upset over, you fucking idiot. Whether or not it's worth getting upset over is a different question.
If you wanted to dispute that, you shouldn't have listed revisions that didn't do the thing people were complaining about in your original post. You just listed regular revisions.
Also, King wii is ded.
and completely missing the shot. congratulation.
>meaning that the only gmae the Normal 3DS owner willl not get are game that wouldn't even have existed in the frirsqt place had the new version system not existed.
This isn't true at all. Nintendo can give devs incentives to make their games exclusive to the New 3DS.
When they way people spend THEIR money has a direct negative influence on the industry that I'VE invested thousands of dollars and thousands of hours of MY life into, I'm going to bitch a little when those idiots see absolutely nothing wrong with what they're doing.
Except the question wasn't
>it IS what people are getting upset over
the question was
>why is anyone surprised?
and anon there >>260732145
provided an uninformed, non-valid answer.
this was not a good answser.
>Buy a gameboy color game.
>It works in my regular gameboy.
>Buy a New3DSLL game.
>Only works in New3DSLL.
Opps, not buyin.
I guess op didnt know that GBA color games worked in a regular GBA.
The problem here is that everyone defending the New 3DS seems to forget one thing
>It's the same as the people buying the gameboy pocket
It is not. Comparing GB to the GB Pocket is like comparing normal 3DS to 2DS. It was just stetical changes.
And before you fags keep sperging all over this, yes: people DID complained when the Gameboy Color came out.
>waaah waaah I invested so many monies in this super serious hobby of mine waah I'm the only on ewho's right please stop buying videogames you are not a real fan such as me.
Videogames are toys, dude and this is a free market. If you think you can tell people to stop buying what you don't like, expect them to treat you like the fucking entitled faggot that you are.
You didn't invest for shit.
>Ohhh I invested so much when I bought this TV
>I invested a lot buying all of these movies
This is not investment.
They didn't for the GBC, they didn't for the DSi, they didn't for the N64 expansion pack, what make you think they will for the N3DS?
It should be quite clear that Xenoblode would have been way too big for the current specification of the old 3DS.
I am beyond defending and simply still there to call you a bunch of stick tied together for easy transportation.
Holy shit you're really dumb.
The if the list was ONLY consoles that allowed exclusive content, and then asked the question "Why is anyone surprised?", then it wouldn't be a valid answer. It makes it obvious that the point of the post is to show that revisions with exclusive content have happened before.
However the original post included tons of regular revisions. Ones that A: people didn't complain about and B: do not have the problem that the New 3DS have.
The SP, the Micro, the DS Lite, the PSP 2000, 3000 and GO, did not have exclusive content, making the post look like people are complaining about a regular revision.
So in this case, his answer is valid.
>It is not. Comparing GB to the GB Pocket is like comparing normal 3DS to 2DS. It was just stetical changes.
missing the point completly.
comparing the Game Boy Pocket to the Game Boy is not the comparison I have done.
I have compared the Game Boy Pocket to the 3DS XL.
If the Game Boy is the equivalent of the 3DS, then
the Game Boy Pocket is the equivalent of the 3DS XL and
the Game Boy Color sis the equivalent of the New 3DS.
>They didn't for the GBC
There were a shitload of games on GBC uncompatible with GB.
> they didn't for the DSi
>they didn't for the N64 expansion pack
I doubt it's clever to compare an add-on to a whole new handheld.
What you are saying is that anon there>>260732145
provided some correction to certain flawed argument of the OP, Nevertheless he still didn't provide a valid answer to the original question.
No, you're just really dumb. You're confusing two issues.
The original poster seemed to imply that the new 3DS is a regular revision, asking why people were surprised and that there's backlash. The second poster answered his question, in that it's not just a normal revision like some of the other consoles listed there.
YOUR issue is that you think the exclusive content is not worth complaining about. That's not what the original poster asked, nor is it even relevant to that reply chain.
>There were a shitload of games on GBC uncompatible with GB.
and there was no incentives from nintendo behind that.
Actually what happened is that during the first years, most games for the color still worked for the normal GB. But has more and more people buy the GBC, they focused more and more on it.
Nintendo never pushed anyone in the back for the devs to only work on the GBC.
More than likely, the future 3DS game will work on both system, so that the devs will not get loss out of cutting themselves from a market of 44 millions users. what will happen instead is that the game will have optional control nlocked for the N3DS and maybe better looking graphic or 60fps unlocked.
This is the soundest business plan and there is no reasons for the devs to not stick with it.
Not any of the anons you are quoting, but he did, sorta.
- People is complaining because N3DS is getting exclusive games not compatible with the "old" 3DS
- People starts sperging about how nobody should've been surprised because "it's Nintendo, they always do that."
- Then >>260716086 posted the list of different handhelds, wondering why people was surprised, also adding as analogy how Sony would announce a Vita 4000 too. Apparently believes people is only complaining because it just another iteration.
- Then >>260732145 starts detailing why makes the actual situation different than the list the previous anon posted.
If something, the only anon here missing the point is >>260716086
>The original poster seemed to imply that the new 3DS is a regular revision
But it is. It has happened in the past, with both thee the GBC and the DSi.
The second poster didn't manage to provide a valid answer to that.
Please, just stop.
It's obvious the original poster was implying that people were upset about it being a revision and not having exclusive content. He wouldn't have typed anything about a "Vita 4000" if he didn't.
What were you expecting?
I dare say that Nintendo fans are the worst on /v/. Not because they like a bad console, but because they think Nintendo can do nothing wrong.
Also it's kinda funny that they insist that their console isn't tailored to children and people who don't play games that often.
>He wouldn't have typed anything about a "Vita 4000" if he didn't.
Well you seem to miss the fac that the OP>>260697512
didin't actually tipped anything about the Vita 4000 in the first place.
You're completely clueless.
We're talking about THIS GUY'S post >>260716086
And that's it. He was the one that asked the question, and it has been answered properly by the guy you said didn't answer it properly.
funny thing is, the Gameboy advanced was only supported for 3 year before the NDS came out.
Also, the 3DS will not stop being supported. see>>260737742
I am ready to bet 50 buck that 90% of the game coming in the next 2 years will still work on the 3DS.
>Game Boy Colour only got 3 years before the GBA came out
>GBA only got 3 years before the DS came out
>DS only got 3 years before the DSi came out
>DSi only got 3 years before the 3DS came out
>People are surprised that the 3DS got 3 years before the next system came out
>Gameboy Pocket 1996
>Gameboy Color 1998
So by your own logic, the original Gameboy's money-hungry ways of quickly releasing new expensive installments were even worse than the 3DS. Therefore, the 3DS to "new" 3DS is much better.
I still have the original 3DS. I'm hype as fuck for the N3DS.
Eat my dick XLfags.
actually you need to learn the proper use of vocabulary on 4chan. Next time, be sure to use the term
"this anon >>260739014 "
Not to mention the answer that this anon >>260732145 did
to this anon >>260716086
is still not valid.
he corrected him about the PSP and the vita, but he didn't provided a valid answer as to why anyone should be surprised of what Nintendo did, after being well known for what they did with the GBC and the DSi
Anon there >>260732145 did not provide a valid answer. but he provided valid correction.
Yes, but I didn't imply that all of /v/ was nintendrone, I implied all of /v/ was delusional except him, of course.
He's the one implying that delusions=exclusively nintendo, which reinforce my point.
That was kind of sarcasm, you see, because a lot of people on /v/ think everyone BUT them are fucking idiots, this isn't what I think, personally, but that seemed like it was what HE thought.
>Buy our newest handheld version upgrade or you can't play new 3DS games
This is the most jewish thing I've seen a company do in years
>Third parties maybe, but Nintendo has dropped first party support for the OG 3DS
Making exclusives for the N3DS != stopping making games for the 3DS.
They have a user base of 44 million. they will probably only make exclusives for games that require too much resources for the initial 3DS, like a Majora Mask port working at 60 fps.
My current prediction is that from now on most games Nintendo will do for the 3DS will work on both the old and the new system, but will work at 60fps for the N3DS.
Exactly, and it set the standard for every Nintendo handheld to follow
To call it a redesign only while the New 3DS is counted as a separate system because of a couple exclusives is retarded
So what you're saying is that it's a redesign only?
No, you just don't know how words work and it's quite obvious English is not your first language. If I had said OP, I'd be talking about the OP of the thread. I typed out original poster and clearly referenced something in the post we were talking about.
He asked WHY people were surprised while giving a list of revisions, and also said he wouldn't be surprised if Sony made a "Vita 4000". This makes it obvious that he was thinking in his mind that people were surprised over a regular revision.
The second poster simply answered his question, and told him why people were surprised. Whether or not they should be is a different question in this context, given that the poster didn't seem to think that this revision was any different than say the DS Lite was.
>or you can't play games that wouldn't even existed if the upgraded system hadn't been done in the first place.
>This is the most jewish thing I've seen a company do in years
So you forgot about the GBC getting out 2 years after the GB pocket?
Or the DSi coming two years after the DS lite?
If the SP is a redesign only, then so is the New 3DS
On top of that, the DSi was listed in that list as a redesign/semi redesign, despite being the exact same thing as the New 3DS to a T
much more jewy than sony and microsoft telling you to go fuck yourself and your last gen library due to no backwards compatability right? and sony charging ridiculous prices to stream those last gen games and making you pay to play online when they previously didn't without making any changes to their servers is way more reasonable than nintendo making a more powerful version of their system.
>and told him why people were surprised.
and he didn't provide a valid answer, he only provided some valid correction.
And OP stand for Original Poster. use it in abreviated form or not, it still reffer to the same stuff.
Except this isn't a significant upgrade, leaving room for an actual new console in the near future. New 3DS owners laughing at the people who bought the original 3DS best be prepared for a taste of their own medicine when the 4DS comes out in 2016
I don't think the New 3DS is a new console, but it's not just a redesign either. It should be labeled something else.
He did give a valid answer. He was asked why people are surprised and was told why people are surprised. If the guy exclusively listed the GBC and the DSi it would be a different story.
Yes. And OP when abbreviated is usually only talking about the first post of a thread. The fact that I typed it out AND gave context for you is enough to tell you that I wasn't talking about the first person of a thread, and people also do this all the time on 4chan. It does not refer to the same things given context, which I gave you plenty of.
There was no way Sony could have done backwards compatibility. They would either have to reuse Cell or put PS3 parts in the PS4, making the console much note expensive. You are fucking ignorant as shit.
>Where is the time and resources for OG 3DS games?
N3Ds is just an upgraded 3DS. 90% of the games they develop will be able to work on both. All that will happens. You act as if there was a gigonomous leap between the N3DS and the 3DS, whereas it's just more ram and a faster clock. Only a few games will push the console so far it will only work on the N3DS.
A game developed to work for the N3DS will be able to easily work on the 3DS if gimped a bit (like dropping the frame rate from 60fps to 30 fps, for example).
All in all, it's more than likely that the the proportion of games that will only work on the N3DS will be way smaller than the game that one for the games that only worked on the GBC.
>was told why people are surprised.
but the explanation he gave was not a good one.
but he did provide valid correction to the anon's statement.
And OP can refer as well for the the original post as for the original poster.
when not talking about OP, you say "anon", and don't refer to it as the "original poster".
It was a good one, because THAT IS LITERALLY THE REASON PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED.
If you think people shouldn't be, that's a different story. This isn't hard to understand.
>when not talking about OP, you say "anon", and don't refer to it as the "original poster".
That's just your English skills talking. People refer to posters of a specific post as the original poster [OF THE POST] all the time when there is context for it.
Things all 3DS games will benefit from the New 3DS:
-A better 3D that does not blur out or dedouble no matter how much you move the console
-A better screen and touch screen
-A better management of the brightness of the screen
-A better battery life
-A faster download from the internet
-A faster navigation on the internet and Mii Verse
Things 3DS games that already use the circle pad pro and 3DS game that might receive patch update to use those feature will benefit from the 3DS:
-A new camera control stick
-New ZR and ZL shoulder buttons
both dirctly integrated to the console
Things exclusive to the New 3DS games and 3DS game that might receive update patch (unlikely) and 3DS games that will be able to work on both 3DS but gimped on the normal one will benefit from the New 3DS
-A faster processor
>THAT IS LITERALLY THE REASON PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED.
It isn't a good reason. There fore it isn't a good answer.
It's actually like the DSi who was an updated system compared to the DS and could play games the DS couldn't. And it's like the GBC compared to the GB and the GB Pocket.
But no, it's not like the GBA SP nor like the DS Lite.
Whatever you think of the reason, it's the reason.
If the post had specifically talked about revisions where the same thing had happened before, you'd be right. But he didn't. He made it obvious in his post that he thought it was the same kind of revision as a DS Lite.
>Finally get a well paying job
>Everything is shit and not worth buying
I'll wait for homebrew to be released for the Wii U
>9 years in between the GB and GBC
>Makes some gameboy games better and the GBC exclusives had no possible way to play on the GB
>4 years between the release of 3ds and new 3ds
>slightly faster cpu than should run games that lagged slightly better
>exclusive games would be able to run on the 3ds with a difference of about 4-6 fps but you won't even have the option
how can you defend this?
>implying one exclusive game makes it a separate platform
It's essentially the same console, but modular, and with a built in second thumbstick.
This is seriously what it should have been from the beginning.
Nintendo of America kind of pulled the plug on that one. More people were used to the idea of the Link Cable anyway, IR was only ever used for TV remotes and PDAs back then, whereas Japan essentially treated it as Bluetooth 0.5 and used it for everything.
complaining about new hardware is fucking retarded. I can understand remakes of games in the past year but at least nintendo is improving something.not just selling a overpriced pile of shit
Most people (with jobs) don't mind buying multiples of handhelds for special editions or different colors. I was planning on getting an extra 3DSXL but now I'm just going to wait for a N3DSXL. If anything I'm getting the extra shoulder buttons and joy stick for free.
Sorry the Vita is so terrible :,(
Monster Hunter 4, jackass.
>DURR GAME IS TOO HARD CAN'T CLAW ON A 3DS MUH SHITTY CAMERA CONTROLS
>oh look a new 3DS with a right stick for better camera controls
>ZERO OUT OF TEN; BAD BAIT
Maybe you should get a job?
>exclusive games would be able to run on the 3ds with a difference of about 4-6 fps
...and not being able to access the stuff controlled by the camera stick and Z-buttons, take proper advantage of the head-tracking capability (due to differences in the display), or actually fit into the memory.
Doubling the memory changes what games you can make. If you have to design every game to work with half the memory, you might as well not put that extra memory in.
The Pocket was just to make it friendly for children's hands.
Japanese parents were getting angry that a games handheld for children was too big, and that caused so many drops. Nintendo agreed and made a smaller one so that kids could actually hold it.
The color was an executive decision, and made only after the original gameboy, light, and pocket were more profitable. Color was meant to be added from the release, but cut because it saved about $30 in production on the initial run.
i have a job, it's still retarded to buy the same console twice just because
you can't even defend that without literally being retarded
people are upset about this because it's jewish as fuck, I'd argue that most of us can easily afford it, it's just retarded business practice
your next post is going to be about poorfags
It's not a retarded business practice if the same console gets a significant hardware upgrade.
New physical buttons and stick, removable battery, and microSD support? That's a pretty substantial upgrade. Gaming handhelds are close to and should be treated like phones, where an incremental upgrade is perfectly substantial because it increases the diversity amongst the handhelds and gives older but still usable options a price reduction.
I don't see why it's a problem.
Here's what the "new" 3DS needs to be successful.
>much longer battery
>trade up incentives and ambassador programs for old 3ds owners
>games with old and new 3ds control/setup configurations
>updating old games to accommodate new 3ds
>has to cost less or same as current (old) 3ds
because older phones can still run newer apps, even if it's poorly
this sets a dangerous precedent because of the exclusive titles
if any other company had done this there would be a bigger backlash, as there should be because it's dumb
can you imagine if some games were exclusive to the ps3 slim?
If you are talking about the Japanese market, then it's worth mentioning the Game Boy Light, who had a retro-lit screen and came out just barely a few months before the Gameboy Color.
Hell no, you're a fucking moron if you think that deserves to be in it, AMOLED has a short lifespan compared to LCD and is shit on color reproduction. The only benefit it offers is better blacks and battery life because blacks = off pixels.
>longer battery life is nullified by user-replaceable battery and external battery packs
>trade up incentive has no incentive
Everyone that was fully invested into the 3DS platform was fully invested from the get go. There is no incentive to buy it because they already have the system they want with the circle pad pro cradle and the games they play.
>old games with new controls are impossible to implement systemwide, that's purely up to devs
>there is no accommodation to the new 3ds, all old games run perfectly fine, and probably run better due to them being optimized for weaker hardware
Lel, you don't know anything about business
Does customizable faceplates mean anything to you?
it's more retarded because it's a console
>Hell no, you're a fucking moron if you think that deserves to be in it, AMOLED has a short lifespan compared to LCD and is shit on color reproduction.
neither of these are true anymore
Game Boy Light was a flop though. The only reason to get it was because you hadn't gotten a normal Game Boy or Pocket. All of the early adopters completely ignored that and jumped ship when Color came out.
How about just:
>costs under $200
>fixes the main gripes people had about the 3DS
>still the only no-glasses 3d display
>a way to give your kids Metroid Prime and Wind Waker
>every year, another year's worth of kids gets old enough to want a DS
3DS is doing fine. New 3DS is going to do fine.
>Japanese parents were getting angry that a games handheld for children was too big, and that caused so many drops.
That can be the real reason. most kid started playing it when they were four.
So why didn't Gameboy Color have a backlit screen?
>short life span
My S2 lasted 3 years; no problems, no burn in, no missing colors or nothing. (died to battery dying)
>nothing about business
IT'S REPLACING THE OLD 3DS. This is basically a random price increase unless they sell the handhelds side by side which would be dummmmmmb.
Not the same thing. Faceplates make everything cheap feeling. Remember 360 having swappable faceplates? Stupid (and eventually phased out...)
Lies. Blue subpixels in AMOLED are naturally prone to degradation over time.
Color reproduction consequently gets worse the longer you use it, until the screen goes completely yellow/red due to blue subpixels dying
because it was expensive. At the time, to do something like that made a simple gameboy almost double in production costs. To add that to an already more expensive production of a new system, it would push the system far out of the range that yamauchi demanded.
yes, those are problems with OLED technology and the technology has improved
much the same way that TN LCD panel monitors don't have the ABSOLUTELY atrocious viewing angles they once had, too
the AMOLED screen on the S5 is one of the most accurate screens yet
People who are mad about this just sound fucking stupid. They will only force you to use the new 3DS if the game HAS to use the extra power, and even then Nintendo knows it will lose a lot of sales this way (remember Black 2 was released a full year after the 3DS came out, it was far more profitable to keep it on the DS).
This thing will be exactly like the RAM pack for the N64. It will ultimately be used for a couple of games that just have to use it. Xenoblade seems like it would have to use it, and just couldn't be done otherwise. It's not like Nintendo will purposely put games that wouldn't require the extra power exclusively on it. For example one can expect all the new Pokemon games to work on the standard 3DS. However if they were to decide to port something like Coliseum or Gale of Darkness, it might very well need to use that extra power.
Even that being said, people seem to forget that the 3DS is getting closer to the end of it's life span. It came out February 2011, it's already 3 and a half years into what will probably be a 5 year lifespan.
This could also be compared to the motion plus for Wii. It was released fairly late into the cycle, and was ultimately used for just a couple games, games that which could not of been done with the regular wiimote (Skyward Sword, Resort).
So the question becomes, do you want Nintendo to make these games or not at all? I already have a 3DS, and I'll get the new one eventually. There is no rule that you have to buy it day 1, you can easily wait for more software to come out and a price drop. It's not Nintendos fault if you are an idiot that buys everything up right when it comes out, that sorta makes you sound like an apple fan that buys yearly models.
Wasnt even a battery problem. Only one who cared about that was Gunpei. All yamauchi wanted was it to be sold cheap, but still at a profit.
Thats why he forced the VB out. Gunpei asked for another year and a half so he could work with the LED's to not only make it work better (and not only in red) but also to drive down costs as LED was on that threshold of pricing. Yamauchi told him to get it ready to ship that its going to be the next big thing.
IPS LCD has shit response times and motion blur by default due to the fact that it uses sample and hold technology
there's also IPS glow and shit black levels
every display technology has its downsides, but EVERY LCD technology is absolutely shit tier compared to a high end CRT like the FW900
OLED is the closest we can get to it, so you should want that technology to improve
unless we can get someone working on SED or FED monitors
>So the question becomes, do you want Nintendo to make these games or not at all?
I want Nintnedo to make me free game that run at 120fps with 4KHD resolution and that I can play without needing to buy any system.
Only if they do that will I stop to call them jew
(oaky, if they can make it work on my old NES while keeping all that, I will consider it acceptable, but barely)
>mfw watching nintendrones justify a $250 upgrade to their $250 handheld that only came out 3 years ago
Gameboy color came out 9 years after gameboy and it was STILL just an incremental upgrade.
3 for a brand new system, 2 for a redesign, 1 for a second (limited) redesign.
Nintendo has been popping new shit out about the same pace as atari was. Im kinda shocked no ones mentioned this.
Gameboy Color didn't NEED a substantial tech/power boost. Funny thing about Nintendo is they have good games that can run off a Nokia 3310. Meanwhile Sony can't make a game good without borrowing a $3,000 gaming PC just to show everyone its "good graphics". Pathetic.
Still waiting for the successor to the 2DS/GBA.
Single screen (transparent-ish touchscreen overlaid on top of the normal display), GBA formfactor, two sticks and four shoulder buttons.
>IPS LCD has shit response times and motion blur by default due to the fact that it uses sample and hold technology
Cheap IPS displays are the ones with shit response times. They however, have less motion blur than all other LCD screens. If you get into the more expensive IPS, there is no motion blur, and in addition, the response times are negligible.