>FUCK YOU, Nintend! how dare you release a slightly more powerful

>>260697512
literally no one complaining about it faggot

>>260697580
except for all the threads complaining about it

>Game Boy - 1989
>Game Boy Colour - 1998

>3DS - 2011
>"New" 3DS - 2015(?)

Get fucked

>>260697580
It was the first thing I saw on /v/ this morning with about 250 replies. And there's probably smaller threads just like it elsewhere.

>Just because they did wrong in the past gives them the right to do wrong in the present.

>>260697813
oh, is that too close together for ya?

is mommy not going buy you another 3DS so soon after she bought you the last one?

>>260698041
the game boy color was awesome faggot

>>260697512
Wasn't the gbc like 10 years apart from the gb?

>9 year gap compared to a 4 year gap

Next time use the GBA -> DS, very similar timespan.

>>260698082
Yeah, it is too close together for me.

>is mommy not going buy you another 3DS so soon after she bought you the last one?

Epic, simply epic

>>260698224
7 Years I think, UK time at least

>>260698356
Damn....so this is the power of vee....heh

>>260697512
People are pissed off because the upgrades are so minor it just shouldn't have been made. I would gladly buy a new system with actual spec improvements not just slight improvements. The screen improvement seems like the best thing but its not really such a huge leap.


Also the exclusive games won't be anything special, just some freeware games or some games will feature the nipple control and allow cam movement.

People need to stop freaking out about that.

>>260698521
>Also the exclusive games won't be anything special
It's fucking Xenoblade

The reason I am skeptical of the new 3DS is because I bought a DSi.

>FUCK YOU, Nintend! how dare you release a slightly more powerful system that has exclusive games!
>You should just keep making game boy games forever!

Honestly though, I don't understand why Nintendo thought this was a good idea, it just divides the market place. I mean who the fuck (besides Nintendo) would develop for an upgraded system with no users compared to one that has an install base of 43million units

>>260698521
>I would gladly buy a new system with actual spec improvements not just slight improvements.
it has double the ram and double the vram

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>>260698746
Forgot my image.

>>260698658
>port

>>260698521
No they aren't. If this was just another revision everyone would be laughing at Nintendo about how they're releasing another revision.

The hate is that it's going to get exclusive titles. Which we completely have no idea how many the system will have except for one ugly port of Xenoblade.

Once they announce a new Metroid or StarFox exclusively for this thing, everyone will be completely validated to bitch. But until then, every NEET on this board is upset that they can't scrounge the money up in a year to get it for one so-far comfirmed exclusive.

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You realize they did this with the Game Boy right? Is everyone here fucking serious?

>>260698658
Is it actually an exclusive? Or are people speculating badly? I assume they just showed it off as a way to sell more of these things since it probably plays well with the camera nipple

>>260698658
Big fucking whoop, emulate it.

>>260699083
It is.

If they release a new 3ds in GBC purple, I'm going to buy 2.

And rub my dick on it.

>>260697512
the worst offense by nintendo is not giving us a see through purple consoles. WTF? Someone needs to be dragged out in the streets and shot for this.

>>260699065
the weeb who drew the picture knows fuck all about perspective

I got 3ds day one then the xl a few months ago because broken shoulder buttons. Now this bs. If I didn't get the xl id be ok with it...maybe. Instead of a slight upgrade they should work on a brand new one fuck that 10-20% CPU shit. What's next wiiu2? Turning into Apple.

>>260699065
It took 9-10 years for them to do it with the GBC, though the complaint is still valid.

Think about this from the standpoint of a developer

>we could release this game with slightly easier to use controls
>or we could develop for the system everyone already has

A handful of games will use the nipple and and new shoulder
They will also probably be able to be controlled using the touchscreen in the same way

stop blowing your angerload over nothin m8s

>>260697512
So how many 3ds consoles do you own /v/?

I own 3, Eevee, Triforce, and Dreamteam

>>260699461
Could trade your 3DS XL in.

I'll buy one if there's a game that I want for it. I've had the same 3DS since release day 2011, and could deal with an upgrade to the XL.

>>260697779
mad sonyfags

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>mfw I held off on purchasing a 3DS

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>>260697580
>literally no one complaining about it
>threads everyday with people complaining about it

>>260697512
I think people are complaining because most nintendrones don't have jobs

>>260700059
Same here

feels good

>>260700116
That's the nature of /v/ consolewar threads.

We have people bashing it in one thread, people defending it in another, and a small group of people who want to just talk about the system but their thread grts derailed by haters.

>>260700268
Even if they don't have jobs, it's only $180. If they do all their chores and save up allowance they should have enough money to buy a New 3DS before it's even released in the west.

>>260699787
>the nipple

Call it that from now on.

>>260699823
I only own 1

>>260698878
That's why the DSi had, like, one game that used the camera

>>260700475
Plus they could even trade in/sell their old model and greatly reduce the cost of the new system.

>>260699787
but if the majority of the people who actually buy 3ds games own a new 3ds, then you should just make a game exclusive to it

I hope everyone here realizes Nintendo has ALWAYS made secondary versions / improvements of their mobile hardware

>>260699519
You're comparing today to the 90's. It doesn't work that way. The technology to make the GBC much like the new 3DS, could be done in the time it's predecessor came out, but they couldn't be made without losing money. The only reason they're releasing the new 3DS is because they found a cost effective way to produce it much like GBC. It's like you're trying to say technology grew just as fast today as in the 90's.

>>260700758
True, but that could be a few years from now, anyway, upgrading what you own by then will make more sense.

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Are you people seriously retarded?

GB to GBC wasn't a minor upgrade like you're God damn implying.

>>260700952
Oh okay.

The only thing I can think of that explains Nintendo's decision to release a New 3DS is they're trying to encourage more 3rd party company's to develop for them.

Currently the only decent games that people want to buy are mostly 1st party games, this is great for the customers but bad for Nintendo considering they make most of their money from licensing. So to get the players to buy the new systems they have to release exclusive first party titles.

>>260700404
What about people who want to talk about the system but get derailed by blind followers? Two sides to every coin.

>>260699823
I just bought a refurbished one from the nintendo website cause all the ones around me are more expensive
I'm a little ticked off that they're gonna release a new system, but it probably wont come stateside for a while

>>260698878
I loved the shit out of the DSi. The sleek design was perfect. Also it had internet.

rather have this than a new system so soon, and it'd be nice if I got a pikmin game

>>260697512
>gameboy out for nearly nine years
>3ds is barely 4 years old

u dun acting autistic yet

>>260701096
Originally the Gameboy color WAS supposed to be a minor upgrade, the GBA was originally was supposed to be released in 1999 but due to the GBC being a market success it was pushed back.

>>260701182
Well yeah, that too.

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>>260701096

It wasn't a huge upgrade though. They added the color screen, obviously. And a fasted processor i believe.

I had a GBC. Loved it, but there weren't a ton of games made exclusively for the GBC. The new 3DS is a little silly to me, but i'll probably pick one up probably 2 years after it debuts, and gets some games.

The name itself is the fucking dumbest part. Nintendo needs to fire their entire marketing department. The only thing they've done well is the E3 Treehouse event.

>>260697512
What was the best GBC game and why was it Pokemon G/S/C?

My 3DS is refurbished and bought it year and a half ago.

The only people mad about New 3DS are faggots who just got a new 3DS

Nintendrones are the worst people on the planet. Who in their right mind could defend such a blatant anti consumer move?

>Droning this hard

/v/ really is the shittiest yotsuba B board on 4chan

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Wouldn't going from the GBC to GBA be a better comparison?

That was like a 3 year difference.

>>260701816
>but there weren't a ton of games made exclusively for the gbc

Yeah, you know, only 500 games.

Compared to the original gameboy's 700.

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>Win handheld wars because your only competition is a retarded turtle
>Continually fuck up with simple shit like just naming products
>mfw this shit will reach critical mass one day and the great gaming crash will be upon us

>>260697512
>Being this delusional

How many 3DS do you own ? Must be at least 5 with this level of dronning. You fucking disgust me

If Sony did this nintendrones would be chimping out over it. But when Nintendo does it they'll defend it.

>Every console/handheld/hardware thread is a shitflinging contest between LOL WHAT ARE YOU POOR LOL BABBY PLEASE GET A REAL JOB and THIS SHIT IS UNACCEPTABLE FUCK M$/SONY/NINTENDO _____ FANS WILL DEFEND THIS
>The only games discussion on /v/ is about feminism which is an even worse circlejerk

And what exactly is bad with releasing a new, more powerful model after 4 years of the 3DS release?

Why are you people so fucking mad? They're still making 3DS games.

>nintendo just released 2DS a year ago
>here's another 3DS that's objectively better in every way and also has better capability than all others and ALREADY has a fucking exclusive

This is an anti-consumerist bullshit stunt I would expect from fuckin Microsoft, for Christs sake, really Nintendo?

Anybody else have that one Nintendrone friend who's 100% ok with this?

>>260702572
The Japanese market probably understands the marketing perfectly, it's just when they try to bring the same principles to another culture.

I'm sure NoA was probably against this bullshit, but knowing old Japanese business men they probably were trying their damned hardest to push this stupid bullshit.

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>>260702936
Why do you think /vg/ and /vr/ were created ? /v/ IS the containment board

>>260701719
which was good, since the gba was so cheap

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>mfw I waited
Suck it, compulsive buyers. Now I get to enjoy MH4U without needing a tumor-looking addon

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>>260701958

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>9 year lifespan for original GB
>GBC cost like $70

I'm not even mad about New 3DS but it's hardly comparable.

>>260701958
how is it anti-consumer?

it's actually pro-consumer, anti-poorfag

nintendo is done catering to poorfags

>>260702908
This. /thread

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>>260701895
>droning this hard
>not seeing the problem

>nintendo says they won't ever make a 3ds revision as they were happy with the original 3ds
>fragments the fanbase

>nintendo fanboys are glad the 3dsxl didn't come with a second circle pad because it would fragment the fanbase and screw over everyone who bought the 3ds
>"OH NINTENDO, YOUR SECOND NUB FEELS SO GOOD UP MY ASS"

>>260700895

No they have not. Nintendo has always made revisions with improvements that were optional. You were never locked out of new games because you bought an old version.

The one exception was the DSi, which introduced DSiware. It was slightly more powerful than the DS and had content exclusive to it through the DSi store.

The New 3DS is another DSi, except Nintendo will be making new retail exclusive games for it and pushing it as hard as they can.

Want to know why this won't be some shit revision you can ignore? Because they have to pay royalties for the old 3DS now.

http://www.law360.com/articles/495175/rakoff-sets-royalty-rate-for-nintendo-3ds-technology

This also falls align with their new strategy of finding alternative source of revenues outside of games. The New 3DS with its faceplate accessories and the NFC reader actually being incorporated into the system so they can really push Amiibos on it and the Wii U.

The NEW 3DS was built more out of desperation than actual design.

>>260702908
Sony fans would defend it just as hard, get over yourself.

>>260702936
Are you retarded or something?

>>260703043
>Anybody else have that one Nintendrone friend who's 100% ok with this?

Look at this thread, look at OP

I know someone who bought the 3DS at launch, then the zelda 3DS, then the 3DS XL and finally the D2S and is thinking about getting that mario 3DS. I'm pretty sure he'll get that new 3DS too

>>260702738
I only own one

the original 3ds was too small, so I waited for the superior 3dsxl

then the 2ds came out and I laughed at how shit it is

now is a good time for an upgrade, just in time for the new systems to come out

>>260703616
That's pretty much what /v/ is now, so no, his assessment is pretty spot on.

>>260702908
a vita that could play ps3 games natively would be pretty sweet, actually

>FUCKING NINTENDO! CAN'T YOU SEE THAT 1 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY IS OUTDATED AS FUCK?! WHY CANT YOU UPGRADE TO THIS NEW PROCESSOR THAT GIVES THE GAMEBOY AN ASININE PERFORMANCE BOOST? WHY DONT YOU RELEASE A GAMEBOY EVERY YEAR WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY? OF COURSE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP BUYING IT AND WE WILL ALWAYS BE UP TO DATE!

>>260703043
the 2DS was for poorfags, children, and cyclops's

it wasn't a proper upgrade, more of a side-step

>>260697813
if anything this will serve to extend the 3ds lifespan since without this we'd get a fully new handheld probably in 2016, but with this there will still be games for 3ds well for a few years longer. i doubt there will be very many n3ds exclusives, just a few here and there.

>>260703829
At the cost of alienating the already alienated Vita base?

>>260703484
The Vita TV is pretty consistently shit on though.

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>>260703913
I just realised, Nintendrones are actually like Applefags

>>260701816
I agree full heartedly, both this and the wii u have a terrible name
the wii u should have been the ultra nintendo entertainment system, and this should have been the 3DS control or something

Go ahead and be totally okay with this, nintendo fanboys, and keep using "LOL U POOR?" ad hominems, but you completely lost the right to criticize shit like iphone upgrades if you eat this garbage.

>>260704085
vitafags are used to being fucked up the ass

they enjoy it

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>ITT: NEETfags justifying their inability to spend a measly $200 for a direct upgrade.

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>>260697512
>>260697512
>GBC
>Released nine years after the GB, entirely new generation

>NewDS
>Released three/four years after the 3DS, not an entirely new generation

Whoever makes this analogy needs to stop posting. Immediately.

>>260704316
my phone does everything I need it too, I'd rather have a better portable device

>>260704257
As a Nintendo-mostly owner myself, I agree that a huge part of the fanbase act just like Applefags in the sense that they LOVE to waste money on every new console Nintendo shits and just throw their 2-year-old console to the trashcan. The dude in the video portrays the situation pretty well.
It's pretty sad how far it has gone.

I can see why people would be angry.
I was gonna get a XL last Christmas, Zelda one, but I ran out of money. If I had bought it, would I be angry now. FUCK YES. But since I still have my 3DS from release, I'm actually relieved, as long as they do not release a new one next year.

>>260700738
That would be a great idea...if your account wasn't tied to the system, but it is, meaning you can't simply sign in your account again to get all your stuff back, and if you sell your console to get a new one, you'll lose all your digital games.

Thanks, Ibama.

>>260704146
!!!
You replied to me....!

>>260704732
>their 2-year-old console

Wasn't the 2DS out only last year ?

>>260704831
Does system transfer not work between 3DSs?

>>260704528

current 3dsxl is 200 dollars. I don't see the new 3dsxl being 200 dollars unless some massive price drops happen.

And since when in a handheld system have upgrades like this ever been acceptable after 4 years?

Oh wait, you're just going to respond with "LOL POORFAG"

>>260704732
I wouldn't be upgrading if it wasn't for monhun and the fact that the right shoulder button on my 3ds is mushy

>>260697813
How much time passed from DSlite to DSi?

>>260704953
It does, but you'd need two 3DS' to do that.

>>260704831
sell your system after you do the transfer

what, are you so poor you can't afford the new 3ds without trading in you old one for it?

>>260704831
Don't some retailers offer the same credit if you do a system transfer and return with your receipt?

>>260704805

I saw that store.nintendo had refurbished Zelda XLs over the weekend and bought one along with a CPP. I'm angry. Very angry.

>>260704732
Wops, forgot the vid
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>>260704947
2DS wasn't an upgrade, I'm refering to the XL, but there are still idiots who bough one because it was new or for stupid shit like better shoulder controls.

>>260697813
On the other hand
>finding acceptable, after 9 years, for almost the only improvement be a colored screen

>>260704954
gbc>gba
gba>nds
really the ds is the first one in a while to have a truly long life span

>>260703985
No shit, stupid. that's not the issue.

The issue is that this is so absolutely abrupt and out of nowhere, and it is quickly coming. There are probably millions of people who bought new XL's, 2DS's or regular 3DS's for Smash and all of that, and now they're pulling this shit for no reason. There was even a kid who posted a pictureof his receipt for a new XL he bought yesterday for Smash. The 3DS is selling great and they know it, but they decide to fuck everyone over and put out something objectively better and easier to develop for.

I guarantee you it's gonna get an important game that everyone is gonna get pissed off over, like a new Metroid or Pokemon gen.

And if you're the kind of mongoloid to spout LOL POORFAG BUTTMAD you're the exact kind of idiot this product is for: spoiled manchildren with no perspective on expenses.

>>260704528
it won't even be that it'll be 100 max with a trade in

>>260704954
>4 years

Nintendo actually has released a new 3DS every year

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>>260705219
>what, are you so poor you can't afford the new 3ds without trading in you old one for it?
Yes

>slightly more powerful system
>Games which are finally colored

only this week have I ever seen this. this is the new argument for bait threads. god I fucking hate /v/

>>260704648
gb pocket and lite then

>>260697512
>Gameboy was out for 9 years when GBC released
>3DS not even out for four.

>BUT THE GBA!
The GBA was also cut short in a shitty way.

It's terrible for current 3DS owners no matter what way you slice it, and bad for others when nintendo feels like releasing more 3ds systems in four years than EA does Madden games.

Man, I keep hearing justifications like

"well my 3ds is worn out anyways"
"good, my shoulder button isn't working"
"I bought the 3ds at launch and wanted to upgrade anyways"

What the fuck? What happened to nintendium hardware that could last through an atomic blast, you people are just tossing out your barely few years old hardware like it's already out of date.

The Vita is dead and now there's a hole in the market that Nintendo wants to use, but nobody wants to develop for the 3DS because of the hardware and controls, you can't fucking port a franchise from another system when the control scheme is completely different and the hardware is underpowered, and you want people to buy the new system so you release exclusives.

>>260705325
the system isn't coming out this year, so if you want to play smash this year, you need an old 3ds anyway

>>260704528
That's not the fucking point, when you are paying for this shit you are supporting this kind of practice
Of course you don't even understand you stupid spoiled shit

>>260705325
there's no way they could have announced it without maKing people that JUST bought one mad

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I'm just pissed about having to do ANOTHER system transfer.

>Owned a 3ds when it first came out (terrible mistake, the original sucked ass)
>Got an XL about 2 years ago, loved it, but I had to buy the XL, bring it home, system transfer my shit, bring the XL and the old one back to gamestop, return it, sell the old 3DS, then rebuy the XL with the credit.

The assholes at gamestop gave me so much shit for trying to return it to. I explained to them step by step what I was going to do, asked them if it was cool. The guys working said it'd be fine, but when I got there they couldn't figure out shit. I never worked at gamestop, but refund/rerings are pretty common in retail.

>>260705371
then borrow some money, buy the new system, transfer games, sell old system, and give the money your borrowed back

>>260705370
Two of them this year.

Total of five in under four years.

>>260705289
>clock speed of approximately 8 MHz, twice as fast as that of the original Game Boy. The Game Boy Color also has three times as much memory as the original (32 kilobytes system RAM, 16 kilobytes video RAM)
>infrared port, but who cared about that

>>260705370

Duh, nintendo releases model revisions, that's nothing new, but fragmenting the userbase with exclusivity like this is retarded.

Should have waited at least another 3 years and just made a next gen handheld

TIME FOR AN UPGRADE! Just like mi phone. I can't run the latest apps. Is there a service that handles nintendo upgrades?

>>260705508
>The GBA was also cut short in a shitty way.
no it wasn't

gba still got awesome games after the ds came out

I would know, I played them on my ds

>>260705479
Not the same situation as going from the 3DS to the NewDS, those were slight upgrades/new models, not an entire new generation from the previous ones.

>>260705148

Does that specifically matter? The DSi didn't have exclusive games, just exclusive apps that no one used anyways.

>>260698082
Are you so fucking retarded to buy the same console twice? Fucking hell, how can be anyone so autistic to defend this bullshit? Is the jewest shit I've seen in my whole life.

>>260705779
next year
and you act like you'd be surprised about an xl version

>>260705881
A three year lifespan before moving out a replacement platform is pretty shitty.

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>>260705523
nintendo ran out of nintendium after the dsphat

>>260705674
Why didn't you just bring your old 3DS to the store and do the system transfer there?

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>>260705726
>>260705371
>>260705219

Do this

>Buy the new one
>Bring it home do your transfer
>Bring both back
>Return the new one
>Sell the old one
>Rebuy the new one using the store credit.

Ask them first about it like >>260705674

Because gamestop employees can be braindead as shit sometimes.

>>260703472
okay, this is an interesting rebuttal
good post, anon

>>260705829
I'm just concerned over how much faster the revisions are coming now.

DS had four in over 5 years.

3DS is at five in less than 4.

>>260705674

If you don't want to constantly transfer your data, stop being a retarded fickle consumer that buys every iteration of the same hardware.

How simple is that, you don't have to buy everything nintendo puts out and throw out the old

>>260705674
should have sold it on ebay, retard

you get more money that way

>developers realize the great majority of 3ds owners are not going to buy this shit
>release standard 3ds games because no one likes losing shittons of customers.

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>>260706101
>>260705726
The point is it shouldn't have to be this complicated. Why can't I just log into my account and get all my games back easily like I did when my Vita broke and I had to get a new one?

And it's not just Sony. I'm not familiar with XBL, but I'm assuming it's the same way (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not claiming this as truth). If your PC died, after getting a new one you could just sign into Steam and get all your old games back easily. Why is it just Nintendo that makes it so difficult?

>>260706075

Because they didn't have an internet connection.

You need to connect to the internet first before doing a transfer I guess.

>>260705985
They launch this year in Japan.

>>260706075
You need an internet connection in order to perform it.

>>260705947
>Are you so fucking retarded to buy the same console twice?
it's not the same console, it has exclusive games

>>260705616
Stop droning.

There are people who are planning to/have already put their money towards the Smash 3DS bundle. Once it comes out, they have less than a year until it goes obsolete. The fucking thing has a godawful name and it already has a fucking exclusive. This is literally something Apple would do.

>>260705924
>The DSi didn't have exclusive games

Yes it had.
About 4 but it had.

Go read your 3ds manual if you don't believe me
>this hardware plays DS software and DSi software

>>260705823
>>infrared port, but who cared about that

Why did they never use that? Was it just not reliable enough, or did they just say "hey, let's waste consumer dollars for hardware features maybe one game will every use"

>>260705148
DS was 04

DS lite was 06

DSi was 08.

So you had 4 years between the DS and DSi.

There were a couple differences. The DSi didn't really have too much of a hardware bump when it came to the games, it just had updated software to do some more digital stuff, so the DSi games were largely digital-only and small in scope. There were like 3 DSi only carts and 2 of them never left Japan.

This is different because they bumped the main hardware some but not a lot, but they intend to put a number of carts out on it.

It's the same as the DSi at best (Which, while not great, is decidedly neutral).

At worst, we're looking at sega-tier bullshit where 3DS is abandonware.

>>260705924
It had Shantae.

One advantage Consoles have over PC's is you don't need to upgrade them

Nintendo took this advantage away

>>260706143
by the time it comes out it will have been at least four years, were hitting the 4 year Mark in January

>>260701513
>4 years
>implying that's not a long time for a game console
>"i was born in 1996"

>>260706158

>Implying i bought a 2DS

I'm not totally sold on the new 3DS either, but if it ends up having a solid amount of games exclusive to it, I'm gonna buy it. The only reason I bought the XL is because the old 3DS was so small and it made my hands cramp up like a motherfuck.

>>260698785

All they mentioned about improvements is a slightly better CPU.

>>260706238
>Why can't I just log into my account and get all my games back easily l
because people would abuse by giving their friends their information so they could download the games they bought

>>260706471
They'll first release before the four year mark, this year, in japan.

Even at four full years 5 versions of one system in four years is atrocious.

>>260706238

Because then the games would still be on the old handheld, and nintendo doesn't want people buying used 3dses with free digital games, which apparently would be a problem with how fickle you people are and how often I guess you toss out your old hardware just for a bigger screen or some shit

There sure is a lot of autism going on in this thread.

>>260706158
Pikachu 3DS XL master race
I can sell it for more than I bought it and then buy the new hotness.

>>260706607
http://3dbrew.org/wiki/New_3DS

>>260706760
This isn't really a problem for any other manufacturer.

>>260706673

To be fair though the XL was a nice upgrade.
The 2DS made sense because parents were worried about little Timmy fucking his eyes up with the 3D effect. (I know you could disable it, but the average consumer doesn't read the owners manual, or check around the settings.)

Let me get this straight. I just bought a 3ds XL last week with a couple of games. A new fucking system is coming up soon ,meaning I wasted 250 dollars

>>260706673
>Even at four full years 5 versions of one system in four years is atrocious.
not really, these are the first upgrade

the xl just made the 3ds bigger
the 2ds just removed the 3d

this is the first time they actually improved the core 3ds model

>>260706370

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DSi#Software_library

Ok, but which one of these justifies buying one if you already have the DS? I mean, all the power to them for introducing new models, but the DSi isn't in the same league as this.

>>260706032
you mean before right?

>"new" 3ds
This shouldn't be allowed, they done it in the past but that doesnt mean it isn't wrong when exclusive bullshit happens. Specially when the 2ds excuse was "cheaper and that allows to play 3ds games". Now those kids and people who bought the cheaper version can get kicked in the ass if some of their favorite series are exclusive to the "new" console.
Worst is how in 3 years is possible that Nintendo has an actually new portable console.
Because of shit like that I am extra cautious and only buy consoles like 5 or 6 years after launch because of the revisions bullshit. Really, this bullshit revisions is the same thing they do with Pokemon A&B versions, worse is how consumers eat this because they can't control themselves.

>>260697512
GBC was like 8x as powerful though

>>260707062
you didn't waste you money, now you can play smash before next year

>>260704295
Mate, unless they decide to bring back the name next generation because they go full "core gamer" with no quality of life bullshit and don't want to associated to the wii, The Nintendo naming pattern of _NES is dead. UNES will never happen.

>>260707062
Yes. It was announced yesterday.

Are you in your return window?

>>260707053
To be fair, that's more or less irrelevant.

They've still pumped out hardware at a rate that exceeds 1 per year, and that's ridiculous.

>>260707165
>No, the other hardware versions don't count!
Oh stop it.

You're just trying to justify annualization of hardware releases

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>Gameboy 1989
>Gameboy pocket (Redesign only) 1996
>Gameboy Light (Redesign only) 1998
>Gameboy Color (New system) 1998
>Gameboy Advance (New System) 2001
>Gameboy Advanve SP (Redesign only) 2003
>DS (New system) 2004
>Gameboy Micro (Redesign only) 2005
>DS Lite (Redesign only) 2006
>DSi (Redesign/ semi new system. Only 'exclusive' titles for it where download only) 2008
>DSi XL (Redesign only) 2009
>3DS (New system) Announced 1 month before DSi release, released 2011
>3DS XL (Redesign) 2012
>2DS (Redesign) 2013
>New 3DS 2014/2015
Theyve been jewing people since the Advance SP launch. While this isnt new, they have been drastically speeding up their time table.

>>260707551
Speeding up the timetable is the real problem here.

They are really destroying any and all incentive to buy a handheld from them for the first 4-5 years of its life.

>>260706637
>because people would abuse by giving their friends their information so they could download the games they bought
Not really, no other company tends to have this be a big problem. Just do it like Sony does, allow the game to be downloaded to two different platforms only. Problem solved.

>>260706760
Like I said, this isn't a problem for ANYONE else. Why only Nintendo?

Even so, you can just deactivate the other system like how it works on PSN.

>>260707324

>return window

What's with this bullshit people always talk about where they can return opened games and hardware.

If he bought it last week he probably opened and used it.

>>260707404
>They've still pumped out hardware at a rate that exceeds 1 per year, and that's ridiculous.
no, that's standard in portable devices

>psp 2000 - 2007
>psp 3000 - 2008
>psp go -2009
>psp street - 2011
>ps vita - 2012
>ps vita slim - 2013

>>260707546
they don't count, because they weren't upgrades, they were just alternatives

>>260707551
There has never been only a slight improvement of a system that had exclusive games that "required" the slight improvements outside of Nintendo at the very least. It's not just jewing it's advanced jewing.

>>260707904
>psp street
wtf is that?

Also, good job neglecting that there was a 3 year gap between the first psp and the second, and straight ignoring the DS release dates since that was four versions across six years.

Releasing at a rate greater than 1 per year is not the norm.

>>260708050
Many would argue the XL was an upgrade, and you are also trying to steer the metric away from hardware versions to upgrades.

There are five versions of the 3DS hardware.

>>260707551
You are crazy or a poor fag if you don't think the SP was a necessary upgrade to the GBA

the gba had no fucking backlight, it was retarded

>>260708420
2 years in America

psp came out in 2005 over here

>>260708420
In america it was commonly referred to as the e1000

>>260708561
>Many would argue the XL was an upgrade
and lots of other people preferred the original

>>260707693
This.
If there's even a next gen of handhelds from Nintendo, I know it'll be smarter to not even consider purchasing the handheld until many years later. That's not going to look good on their sales if a lot more people choose the same thing. Imagine too, people were enormously enraged that Sony released a slim version of everything but releasing three significantly different versions of the 3DS is okay, each one supposedly treating some issue of the previous model.

>>260708583
fuck the sp, it was a downgrade compared to the original

>>260703319
>I'm a literal retard and dont know what inflation is apart from my disgusting fetish

>>260708740
So?

You are neglecting a lot of information there.

>>260708619
2.5 to be totally accurate.

>>260707551
Most of the time they've added a few hardware features, like the SP's backlight and better mobility, or the DSi's gay little camera. The NewDS is flat out better in every way, and they're still pushing 3DS's while giving the NewDS promise of exclusives. I'm sure millions of kids are gonna get 3DS's for Christmas in 4 months and find out it's already obsolete.

Its bullshit that they gave us such short notice, because that means they already considered and now how well Smash is gonna move units but chose not to tell us. A 2016 release for the New would be acceptable but this is obnoxious.

>>260697512
The difference is 3 years and 9 years.

Now stfu

>>260704954
N3DS is priced the same as old 3DS and replaces them. They're actually 100 yen cheaper than the older versions. But hey, you're retarded and wont bother looking at facts.

>>260708875
Five. If a consumer were to look at the 3DS there will now be FIVE distinct variations on the system to choose from.

Really, I won't touch another nintendo handheld until its cycle is almost over. You can't trust them.

Shit, they even announced the XL like two weeks after saying no such thing would happen.

>>260708583
I didnt say the SP was a necessary upgrade.
That was the year they started doing almost 1 system a year.

>>260708906
no I'm not

some people prefer the original, some people prefer the xl, and some deviants even liked that 2ds shit

>>260703472
>one exception was the DSi

and with that your argument is invalid

>>260709336
Right, and your point is what? That every one of them is a wholly distinct version of the system? Cause that's what I've been saying.

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>you can buy anime

Would this whole thing be made better if NoA themselves offered a credit for trading in a 3DS/3DS XL for a New DS?

>>260709156
No, there will be 3, you shitsniffing smegmaking. The new 3DS completely replaces the old ones. It has the same price.

>>260709156
>If a consumer were to look at the 3DS there will now be FIVE distinct variations on the system to choose from.
no they won't because the new ones aren't out yet, and nintendo will faze out the old ones first

>>260709663
Probably if it were generous, but they never would since they have effectively no use for the older systems.

>>260697813

>GameBoy Color 1998

>GameBoy Advance 2001

>>260709538
they are options, not upgrades

their is only one 3ds upgrade

If any other company did some jew shit like this, no one would defend it.

>>260709721
No, five.
3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, n3ds, n3ds xl.

>>260709734
These old ones will not disappear from the market when the new ones launch. Not for a good while.

>>260709806
Nobody really does, just a bunch of nostalgiafags wanting to add to their collection.

>>260709663
It would have to be a majority of the price off and full transfer of the memory from the old system. Otherwise no it wouldn't be, it's pretty damn scummy to try and push "new" hardware out when it's more like just a slight upgrade and say that games require the new stuff.

>>260709915
Right, wholly distinct options.

Meaning you will have five options if you want to buy a 3DS

>>260697512
funny thing that nintendo had already technically finished the Game Boy Advance when they released the Game Boy Color, but they wanted the extra money ... so basically just today

>>260710075
So, take $100 bucks off the price and they do a full transfer?

>Nuh uh, there are only 3 versions of the 3ds!

wtf is this shit?

That's some powerful ignorance.

>>260697512
The Game Boy Color was released 9 years after the original Game Boy.

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>>260710128
please tell me you arnt so fucking dumb that you actually believe this.

>>260710128
Everything about the GBA launch and nintendo was weird. They REALLY just wanted to drag the gameboy color out to an extreme, but the wonderswan and NGPC kinda showed the market how bassackwards nintendo was keeping things.

>>260710201
That's assuming the price is going to be around $200, that would be decently adequate but would still feel pretty burned.

>>260703263
Fuck you, buying a system 2 years into it's lifetime is not compulsive.

>>260709721
>implying Nintendo will recall the existing models.

2015 launch mean that they'll be pushing the old gimped 3DS on as many unsuspecting customers as possible.

>>260710326
>wtf
Keep strawmanning normie

>>260709974
the old 3ds is almost completely gone already

>>260710495
It shouldn't be, but that's how nintendo has made it.

You have to wait four years at least.

They really fuck their early adopters.

>>260708902
you're absolutely fucking retarded if you think $70 in 199 is the same as $200 now.

>>260710671
>They really fuck their early adopters.
oh yes, they are so fucked, what with all those games they played during those 4 years

it's more like the DSi, a slight upgrade and some games that'll be exclusive because of it, but not a new system because there is no new gimmick.

as someone with only the original 3DS I'll probably buy an XL version of the new one when it comes to the US, I've been thinking of upgrading anyway.

>>260709974
No. 3.

N3DS N3DSXL and 2DS.

Are you completely and utterly retarded? No one is going to stock an outdated model that has the same price as the new model, you colossal mongoloid.

>>260710919
If there's existing stock of the old SKU they'll have a fire sale on them to get rid of them.

>>260710405
And the GBA 3 years after that, and the DS 3 years after that.

>>260710671
>Ambassador program to reward early adopters
>XL comes out later
>People getting pumped for stuff like Smash and MH4U
>"New" 3ds is coming out
>Prease understand

At least I know that after MH4U I won't need to buy anymore games for my 3DS.

>>260710607
No, there are tons of them all over the place, new and used.

They are still making them.

>>260710554
>Strawman
It's only a strawman if it is false.
>>260709721

>>260710919
>He thinks the 3ds and 3ds xl will cease to exist when the new systems launch.

>>260711124
not for long,the n3ds is probably way cheaper to make

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>>260698658
>Talking to friend for the first time in a while yesterday
>he has been spending all the money from his job on paying for a car crash
>end up talking about smash bros
>tell him a few characters that got in
>tell him shulk got in
>"who's that?"
>"The guy from Xenoblade"
>he doesn't remember what that game is and looks it up
>starts talking about how he wanted to play it so badly but it was still around $40
>time passes
>tell him they unveiled a new 3ds
>it has exclusive games
>he gets all upset about how bullshitty that is
>Tell him that xenoblade is it's first exclusive
>he only has owned his 3ds for around a year
>listen to his reaction
>mfw

>>260710873
They got the worst version of the system, paid more, possibly dealt with the screen scratch issue or yellowed screens, and had to wait through all the long empty release periods, just to have the system be invalidated in less than 4 years.

Yeah, kinda sucks.

>>260711358
>>>/b/log

>>260710790
Yes. It is. Roughly calculated, 70 bucks in 1989 with current inflation would be around 150 burgerbuck around now. Which is the going rate for a standard 3DS.

Another fun fact to educate your inbred ass; every nintendo console has cost the same mount of money, considering inflation. AKA you paid the same amount of money for a NES as you do for a WII U, respectively.

>>260711267
When the pocket came out, they stopped selling the brick. Nintendo just let them finish selling the stock they had left and thats it. Same thing with the advance SP.

>>260711469
>They got the worst version of the system, paid more, possibly dealt with the screen scratch issue or yellowed screens, and had to wait through all the long empty release periods, just to have the system be invalidated in less than 4 years.
that's the price you gotta pay to play games before poorfags like yourself

>>260711080
>Nintendo has always had shitty business practices, so it's okay

drone harder

>GBA only had a 3 year life cycle

What the hell, I thought it was way longer than that.

I bought a 3DS to play 3ds games, not just most 3ds games.

Not surprised that nintendo did something shitty like this, but still, I hate that supporting nintendo never seems to work out like it should.

>>260711067
Thats already happening now you shittershattered faget. Retailers are having massive sales on the 3DS right now.

They're getting rid of their stock in anticipation for the new model.

>>260711620
The brick was still available for the while, and had been out for a long enough time before the pocket hit that sales had slowed harshly. It's not quite comparable.

>>260711663
it was 5 years, the ds didn't kill the gba when it came out

>Completely reasonable complain that they are making you pay for a new console every 3 if you don't want to be lft out of exclusive content
>LOLPOORFAG

Fucking Nintendoshills are the worst

>>260711787
Oh okay.

Why so angry?

>>260711642
This is my favorite argument about this.

>It's okay, they fucked us before!

>>260711787
Humor everyone and link to all those fire sales, won't you.

>>260711948
they aren't making you pay for anything

most games will still be made for the old 3ds

>>260711642
>Acting shocked after ignoring this noticable pattern

Shitpost harder stinknugget

I don't want to trade in both my 3DS and the XL at FUCKING GAMESTOP in the event they don't allow transfers

>>260711987
He feels personally threatened over criticism at nintendo. He responds with anger and aggression to cope.

>>260712150
then ebay them, retard

you get way more money on ebay

>>260712395
System
Transfer

>>260712079
>most

Most, not all. Now I owned a gimped version of the handheld I had hoped to use for a few more years.

>>260712079
see
>>260711719

>>260712071
There was a thread full of them yesterday. You can go fucking dig through the archive.

>>260710516
This.

Nobody seems to think its weird that Nintendo is gonna have 2 different handhelds on the market at the same time because Nintendo can do no evil. /v/ yet again proves itself to be chock full of Nintendrones.

>>260712481
what, are you so poor you can't buy a n3ds without selling the old one first?

>>260712583
Or, you can back up your own claims to not appear as if you are full of shit.

If the clearance sales are so common it should take you less time than it would to argue against having to back up your own claims.

>>260712798
I don't want to drop another $150+ on another 3DS

>>260712884
it's not 150+, once you do the system transfer and sell the old one

>>260713114
That takes time and effort and additional interraction

>>260712230
I love Nintendo games, but dsmn, the company is just as jewish as everyone else in the industry.

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>>260697813
Time between the Game Boy pocket and the Game Boy color:
27 mouths.

Time between the 3DS XL and the New 3DS:
27 mouths.

It's exactly the same.

>>260697512
It's not 1998 anymore. The industry and the consumer has changed from when this was an okay thing to do.

>>260713238
if you are lazy, then you don't deserve a good return for you old 3ds

>>260713352
> mouths

>>260713352
Now add all the 3DS hardware releases in to your scale and see what you get.

Hint: It isn't 27 "mouths"

>>260713352
not him but your argument is dumb

the gb pocket was just a smaller gameboy, nothing else was different about it

>>260713367
yeah, it's even more acceptable nowadays

>>260713367
It's not even comparable in any way. The original gameboy was 9 years old by then.

>>260713628
pocket had a nice gray scale screen, not piss green

>>260712801
>He's not willing to dig through a thousand archived threads because I am too lazy to do it myself
>he must be lying.

Go have a nice hearty swig of bleach friend :^)

>>260713114
>implying everyone is going to sell their old one

I dropped money on a special edition, I'm sure as fuck not going to sell it. And why should the consumer take the burden when Nintendo fucked up first with an underpowered system? If they put some time into a new machine with a decent resolution and no shitty gimmick and maybe they'd have a deal.

>>260706983

And no mention of how long the battery will last. Taking into account all the boosted components, my guess is it will be drained even faster than that of the old models.

>>260713862
It's called burden of proof.

You made the claim, the burden of proof falls on you. No proof, then there's no evidence that anything you said is true.

They teach this in grade school.

>>260713865
Come on, just do it. Pay over a hundred dollars for a special edition or whatever, then trade it in for a new system. Then trade that system in for the better one that comes out after. Rinse and repeat until the money you've spent on new handhelds becomes the equivalent of buying three more.

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>>260711502
Oh sorry officer, I didn't realize greentext stories were a thing of the past

If you DON'T BUY IT
they WON'T SUPPORT IT

>>260714203
Too bad you can't stop the drones from flocking to it.

>>260713628
>Now add all the 3DS hardware releases in to your scale and see what you get.
there has been no other 3DS new hardware release since the XL. (The 2Ds is just as relevant as the gameboy Micro)
It's still 27 month.

>>260713628
On the contrary, it's perfectly accurate.
The Gameboy pocket was an improved version of the Gameboy, but still the same hardware.

The 3DS XL was an improved version of the 3DS, but still the same hardware.

The 3DS is basically the equivalent of the Game Boy Pocket.

>>260714337
>There has been no other 3DS new hardware released since the XL
>Except the 2ds
>But that doesn't count
>Because it makes my argument wrong

>>260713865
Nintendo's whole strategy is in selling 'withered' hardware that costs less, has less potential problems, and that is easier to make into a rugged toy. If you really care about power and resolution you should be looking at PC or at least tablets but there you have an even faster hardware cycle. Even the PSV has hardware that looks like a joke compared to a $200 Nexus 7, one quarter the resolution, and a GPU that's several generations behind.

>>260714337
>there has been no other 3DS new hardware release since the XL. (The 2Ds is just as relevant as the gameboy Micro)
Way to highlight how much you know is wrong with your argument.

>>260714203
Really? What wondrous news! I'm glad the millions of other people will know this! They're so smart because they keep asking their parents to buy the newest model or they don't even know which model is which anymore. I'm sure everyone, including desperate parents and stupid kids and casuals, are concerned enough about this.

What are they even going to make that's exclusive to it anyway?

It'll be like several shitty ports and another godawful 3D Metroid.

Fucking newfags.

I hate these threads.

>>260714675
>another godawful 3D Metroid.

>>260714534
I have a gaming PC and a tablet, but I really enjoy a lot of the software available on Nintendo's consoles. I just don't like the hardware. It should at least be competitive with its contemporaries.

They should have just waited a year and announced a proper generational jump.

>>260714916
Yes, like Hunters.

>Gameboy Color
>GBA SP
>GBA Micro
>DS Lite
>DSi

>PSP 2000
>PSP 3000
>PSP Go

Companies always do shit like this, why is anyone surprised? I wouldn't be surprised at all if Sony announced a Vita 4000 or something

if sony did this /v/ would shit on it

>>260716243
No they wouldn't, the discussions would be the same.

Get off the idea that /v/ is Nintendogaf. It's not.

>>260714945
The 3DS was basically a portable with capabilities similar to the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Xbox consoles, when it launched mobile games were basically on par with Dreamcast because of space limitations and even now PS2 games are still difficult for many tablets to handle because of battery life concerns and storage space available. It was a good system when it launched, now we're getting effectively the 3DSi and while it doesn't keep up with modern tablets like the Nvidia Shield its going to show off its primary advantage of DVD sized storage with Xenoblade.

>>260714489
>>260714634
people who have chosen to buy the 2DS will never buy a 3DS.

>>260703138
/vg/ was for very niche specific threads, not the atrocities it harbors now nor /co/'s idea of handling shit.

/vr/ same thing.

/vp/ MLP

i would agree that if /v/ could actually discuss shit it wouldn't have to be this way, but it is mostly to do with being one of if not THE MOST popular board on the sight.

people that screamed like bleating cunts for a swift solution and got their quick fix in those three boards didn't think of the posterity of the site.

>>260714337
>>260713628
You're both idiots.
The time between GBPocket, a smaller but exactly the same Gameboy, and the GBCOLOR, a moderately enhanced system with better graphics and exclusive games, was 27 months. The same as 3DS to N3DS.

Not gameboy to gameboy pocket.

Hey guys, what was the last metal gear game to appear on a nintendo console?

>>260718365
>The same as 3DS to N3DS
You mean, the same as 3DS XL and N3DS?

And that's exactly what I said

>Game Boy Color
>revolutionary upgrade in handheld technology, games are in color holy fuck it's like TVs all over again

>New 3DS
>choppy 29 FPS games now play in a silky smooth 30 FPS
>character models can now have 10 more polygons

>>260697512
I agree with that though. Gameboy games are good, and simple. So it's a very easy template to craft an excellent story with.

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This just sets a fuckawful precedent where game console owners are willing to pay full price for an incremental hardware update that incentives the transition with exclusive games. Of course the existing audience is going to want to buy into this, they're essentially told their hardware is out of date, their current-gen system is old and busted, that they need to buy the *new* current-gen system.

And no, this isn't like the GBC or the DSi. The GBC was conceived as the next iteration in the Gameboy console line. The DSi was more comparable, but its purpose wasn't to outright replace the non-i DS systems.

This isn't comparable to phones either. The 3DS is a closed platform, there are only two handheld systems currently on the market. There's no need for an incremental upgrade arms race.

The New 3DS really is a slap in the face, and if people actually buy into it, this will set an awful precedent for console gaming as a whole. If this succeeds, we're all fucked.

>>260716086
Nintendo is doing it faster than anyone ever has before. That's the issue.

>>260720098
>revolutionary upgrade

It was a Gameboy Pocket with more RAM and a color screen. Most GBC games could be played on the original Gameboy.

What happened to the CPP XL? I thought they were gonna bring it to the west? All I can find online are the Jap version which people sell for $40+

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fuck off and die damage control slaves

your fucking false analogies are pathetic.

>>260721632
No it isn't this is pretty normal for Nintendo.

GBA -> DS took about the same amount of time.
DS -> DSi took about the same amount of time as well.
DSi -> 3DS was an even shorter amount of time.

>>260721854
no it wasn't and no they couldn't.

>>260721854
>Most GBC games could be played on the original Gameboy.
This factually wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_Boy_Color_games
And this better not be your main argument. It can easily be predicted that the proportion of games "optimised for the new 3DS" being also playable on the normal 3DS will be far greater than the (little) proportion of gameboy color games also playable on the normal GB.

from a business point of view, it will be far more rentable to develop games thats till work on the two platform.

>>260722206

he braces for impact, shit movie, shit acting

the only reason people are whining so much is because the extra power is going to be used for games too, if it was just used making the system go faster people wouldn't be bitchng more than wen a new redesing is released

>>260697813
3ds is from 2010 though

>>260697580
I was playing fucking MH3U last night and some random asshole was complaining about it.

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>nintoddlers are this desperate to defend the Jew 3DS
The Diamond Dogs were right and we didn't listen

>>260724895
so, explain to me how it is problematic to not being able to play a game that, if the new system hadn't been made, wouldn't have existed in the first place anyway.

>>260725581
>problematic
>>>reddit

I'm only picking up an N3DS on release becqause the 3DS was the only fucking Nintendo handheld/revision I did not early adopt since the fucking GBM(which I never got).

>>260701819
Shantae

>>260707551

It becomes a clusterfuck of constant redesigns and new shit once you get to the ds era.

>>260726234

not even Matt would agree with you

>>260707551
aren't the redesigns when sales explode? I don't remember the DS taking off until the Lite.

>>260724895
>The Diamond Dogs were right and we didn't listen

shut up Quentin. No one thinks your stupid ideals are good or correct.

>>260725810
wut?

>>260727249
problematic is an SJW buzzword

>>260725810
so, you can't even come out with a counter argument and just told him to go to reddit?

You are so stupid, Quentin

Can you imagine if Sony does this shit? PS4 Slim that has a boosted CPU and exclusive games? Then they release a PS4 Super Slim that has a better GPU? Nintendo is setting a really bad precedent with this shit, and it's disgusting to see the Nintendrones slurp it up so eagerly.

>>260727697
Why should i have to argue to a redditor? they are always wrong

>>260697512
Why is poorfag autism so much more entitled this generation?

>>260729067
>entitled
>"How dare the consumer make fun of our retarded practices!"

>>260727486
It's a fucking word I am not going to stop using even if some cunt use them too.

If I had to stop using every word used by every asshole I might ass wel start a brand new language.

>>260727701
This, so much. I usually support Nintendo too but after pulling this jewery I won't be buying their consoles until the thing is almost dead, if I buy it at all.

>>260730060
you're also typing like a redditor

>>260698082
Why would I pay for the same console again? Gr8 b8.

>>260697580
Literally everyone is complaining about it faggot

>>260701182

So...how about everyone just fucking stop, then?
Why doesn't anyone stop?

Why is /v/ so full of underage babies and poorfags?

>>260710124
>Meaning you will have five options if you want to buy a 3DS

Seems pretty reasonable.

>>260731186
When did it become ok to defend a company being Jewish as shit by calling anyone with a dissenting opinion on the product poor?

>>260716086
You can play the same PSP games in PSP1000, PSP2000 and PSP 3000. You can play the same Vita games in the original Vita and Vita Slim
>inb4 vita >games
You can play the same ds games in the original DS, DS lite and DSi (with the exception of maybe 2 games). You can play the same GBA games in the original GBA and GBA SP

You can play the same 3DS games in the original 3DS, 2DS and N3DS. BUT you can't play N3DS games in the original 3DS and 2DS.