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Name a better generation of Pokemon
You can't
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Any other gen
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>>260363247
Clearly delusional underage b&
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>>260363306
>completely broken games
>THESE ARE THE BEST GUISE
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>>260362621
Gen 2.
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ITT

>peoples first pokemon game is their favorite gen
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>>260363448
>muh toxic

>>260362621
Gen 2
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who cares
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>>260362621
any other gen that isn't gen 2.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnnIETWX7k0
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>>260363527
My first gen was gen 3 because my parents thought that video games would influence me to do bad things like throw balls at animals and go kart racing. But I managed to play gen 2 and I thought it was the best.
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>>260363514
>Shit level scaling
>weakest Elite 4
>spark notes version of Kanto that is completely empty
>worst new pokemon

Gen II is one of the worst. Gen III is a huge improvement in every way.
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>>260363882
fuck off with your water routes and trumpets
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Gen three
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>>260363514
This
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Gen 4 for Platinum and Platinum alone.

Such a shame HG/SS were shit.
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Gen III mons>Gen I mons>Gen VI mons>Gen II mons>>>>>>>Gen IV mons>Gen V mons

In terms of the actual Pokemon, obviously.
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SMT > furry simulator for autists

That's my favorite gen.
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>>260364647
xDDD
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>>260362621
Gen 6.

I'm serious, I am loving X & Y right now.
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gold and silver are objectively better games.
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>inb4 16 year olds who started with Gen 3 say it's the best

Too late

>>260364131
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>Gen 1 has a shit load of Problems

>Implying you can play old gen Pokémon again after the Gen 4 physical Special split
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>>260365747
The remakes are better. They fixed a lot of the issues with level scaling and not being able to catch any of the new pokemon until endgame.
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Gen 3, considering it contained remakes of Gen 1 that improved them in basically every way.
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>>260365951
I started with Gen 1 and I can tell you that mechanically, it's a pile of shit. Platinum is the best game.
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>there are people who don't think that pokemon gets steadily better with every gen

6>5>4>3>2>1 master race
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>>260362621
http://strawpoll.me/2443432
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>>260367002
that wasn't my image but i'm okay with the new one
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>>260367002
I'll agree with that if you change it to 6>5>3>2>1>4 because gen 4 a shit. The only good thing that came out of that generation was Infernape.
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>>260362621
Literally any of them. Even VI.
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>>260362621

XY are the best ones. More pokemon= better game.
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>>260367167
Whats wrong with generation 4?
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>>260367167
i loved gen 4 though. why does everybody hate it nowadays?
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>>260363882
>spark notes version of Kanto that is completely empty
WHat does this mean?
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>>260362621
*Respectfully nods towards OP* I agree, Gen I was clearly the best. I find the new Pokemon designs are too complex and weird for my tastes. The gameplay in the new games is very complex too and it sucks. Remember how awesome Charizard using Earthquake was? What happened to those days man?
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>>260367167

>phys/special split
>not a good thing
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>>260362621
GSC.
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>>260367631
>leddit
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>>260362621
Gen 1 is not my favorite, but I'm still annoyed at how overrated gen 3 (AKA "Trumpetmon") is.
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>>260362621
GEN 2 REPRESENT.
S/G/C
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>>260367341
>>260367351
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally hated it because
>the world map was poorly designed with that stupid fucking mountain right in the center blocking my progress
>there were too many fucking HM's
>getting around was too fucking reliant on HM's
>I personally thought that Pokemon design hit a low point in gen 4, started going back upwards in 5 with the exception of gen 5 starters.
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Gen 5, because it was the only gen with no bad pokemon
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>>260362621
is it even possible to objectively consider gen 1 the best? the mechanics were fucked to hell so bad they made gen 2 mostly to fix all the fucking problems

also, you guys want to know some cool shit about gen 2?

when gold and silver were finished, they were compressed so god damn well that they had a shitton of space left and some time to burn, so they had the idea of importing kanto. if it weren't for that compression godliness kanto wouldn't even be in the game. you should be happy it's even there, not complaining that it's not good enough 4u, numbnuts.
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>>260367683
The split was good, I honestly just forgot it happened in that gen. it doesn't save 4 from being the worst generation.
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>>260368004
>world map was okay IMO. much better than having to surf all the motherfucking time in gen 3
>solid point, but that's what hm slaves are for
>i never really had a problem with pokemon designs actually. some of my favorite pokemon are from gen 4
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>>260368067
Gen 5 is shit and full of bad Pokemon.
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5.5 > 5 > 2 > 6 > 3 > 4 > 1
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>>260368107
Gen 1 was good for its time, but compare it to other games in the series and it becomes pretty clear that it was the worst. Anyone who argues that first gen was best gen is wearing nostalgia goggles
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>>260368175
>worst
>gen 3 exists
top kek
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>>260368067
>no bad Pokemon

Garbage pokemon, ice cream pokemon, chandelier pokemon, and that My Little Pony looking thing.

>inb4 I'm called a genwunner when I wasn't even comparing and I never said shit like voltorb was good
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>gen 2's postgame is empty and featureless
>forgetting that gen 1's postgame is almost completely nonexistent
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>>260368494
Gen 2 had the most postgame anyways. A whole new region with 8 new badges, and the Gen 2 Kanto is not as empty as genwunners make it out to be.
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Remakes/BW2 > Third games > Region starting games > diamond and pearl
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Gen 3 was best
I am a 90's kid who had Red, Blue and Yellow and gen 1 is my 2nd favorite, gen 2 being my third. Havne't played the others.
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>>260368352
Now that's an order I can get behind 100%.

Favorite game still remains the Gen II remakes though.
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>>260368445
Still better than the likes of Stantler, Mr Mime, Togepi, Stantler, Meganium, Jynx, Stantler, Sudowoodo, all baby pokemon, and Stantler.
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>>260368445
hey man don't talk shit about chandelure, that's my nigga

dude there was like six hundred fucking pokemon when they made gen 5, you don't think they would have to make interesting design choices to make every singular pokemon stand out from the rest? they have to take into account samey pokemon, so instead of making another dragonite or making another rhyhorn, they have to work on making all-new looking 'mons. and i never really had a problem with ice cream and garbage pokemon anyway, they fit right in. you do notice that there were like ten pokemon dedicated to the concept of filth before gen 5, right?
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>>260367167
>forgetting about HG/SS
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>>260368951
>they're running out of ideas/there are already a lot of Pokemon
>so it's okay for the quality of designs to lower

Do people really think like this?

>>260368837
At least none of those are inanimate objects.
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>>260369280
Don't be hating on my bro Magneton. He'll crush you in puzzle league blocks.
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>>260368352
How can a single person be so right
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best/worst
>pokemon designs
>gyms
>pokemon league
>music/instrument selection
>art style
>'balance' competitive wise
>HMs/TMs/Move tutor
>Rival(s)
>Champion/bonus bosses
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Every other generation
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>>260369280
the quality of the designs didn't lower you doofus. they're going "out there" because they have to make every pokemon look one of a kind. if you think the designs got worse, that's like, your opinion man, but there's no reason to bash them just for trying new things
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>>260362621
I liked 3 also. It also spawn a billion rom hacks which counts as a point in it's favor.

i hated 2 for no real reason other than personal taste.

4 was easily the worst games except had the best meta and would have been somewhere near amazing if sneaky pebbles didn't exist.

5 was ok.

6 was fucking retarded.

I dont think 1 can be called bad even though it was buggy as fuck, unbalanced, and awkward. It started it all and basically the games have barely changed outside of random things being tacked onto it.
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>>260368494
Gen 3 had the best battle frontier. Hoping it comes back in the remakes.
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4 is by far the best generation

1 and 2 by far the worst

This is not up for debate
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>>260364536
My opinion
Gen III mons>Gen I mons>Gen V mons>Gen IV mons>Gen II mons>>>>>>>>Gen IV mons
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>>260368951
>>260369280
>running out of ideas

It took more than a decade for them to make a lion. They aren't running out of ideas. They're just making things you don't like.

Japanese folklore is FOUNDED on scary monsters being normal objects possessed by ghosts and monsters. Pokemon will NEVER stop having inanimate object based monsters.

Enjoy Gen 7 when Japan finally makes that ghost type umbrella they've been waiting hundreds of years to do.
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>>260370220
Diamond and Pearl are some of the most forgettable ones.

I remember clearly my playthrough and events of every gen I have played, except for that one.
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>>260370220
HG/SS are the best games
D/P are the worst games
This averages out to put gen 4 straight in the middle
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>>260369736
>>pokemon designs
Gen 3, not choosing
>>gyms
Gen 2, Gen 5
>>pokemon league
Gen 5, gen 6
>>music/instrument selection
Gen 5, none of them are bad.
>>art style
Gen 2, gen 1
>>'balance' competitive wise
Gen 4, Gen 1 holy fuck
>>HMs/TMs/Move tutor
None of them
>>Rival(s)
Gen 2, Gen 6
>>Champion/bonus bosses
Gen 2, Gen 6
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>>260368004
The game was also slow as fuck
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>>260370296
>implying 'simple' is creatively inferior
never become a designer
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>>260368445
>Not liking Chandelure
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>>260370478
Which do you guys think has a worse engine, diamond/pearl or x/y?
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>>260370296
>Fire Pokemon cannot look fiery or red
>Zoroark, who is black, looks like these red and yellow Pokemon
>Simple=bad
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>>260370681
>thinking x/y has a bad engine
do people really think this?
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>>260370270
Ops.
I meant Gen VI mons before Gen II mons
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>>260362621
Are you even trying?

This gen had everything first gen had + Johto and new pokes.
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>>260370851
>turn on 3d in battles
>framerate drops

>runs at 30 fps
yes.
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>>260370478

This. With animations TURNED OFF it's still slow!
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>>260370598
Nobody brought up design simplicity.

And pokemon haven't stopped being simple either.
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>>260370982
oh. i have a 2ds and have never played it in 3d
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>>260370949
>new pokemon
Citation needed. I certainly didn't raise any, and the gym leaders certainly didn't use them.
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>>260371120
>Nobody brought up design simplicity.
that's what the picture implied
>And pokemon haven't stopped being simple either.
m8 you have zero chance of successfully arguing that, be honest
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>Thems 25 sec load times in D/P
>That surfing speed in D/P
>Them save times in D/P
>Them slow as fuck battles in D/P
>That slow exp gain after beating a pokemon

D/P were hands down

THE

THEEEEEEE

worst versions ever made

THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE.
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>>260370681
X/Y. The game isn't nearly as good as some 3ds games look and the framerate drops all the time.
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>>260371120
I hate how weak Purrloin is. Makes using it even in ingame a pain.
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>>260371295
100 new Pokemon actually. Are you one of those people who think Gen 1 had more Pokemon than it really did?
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while gen 1 obviously had a lot of problems, honestly I missed missingno in the remake

missingno was more popular than quite a few pokemon and I feel like they should have added him. Heck giratina's whole eldritch abomination deal would have been a perfect time to introduce missingno
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>>260371532
>them everything there fixed in platinum
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platinum>bw2>emerald>hgss>frlg

ORAS will be the best once released.
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>>260362621
Any other day motherfucker I woulda said gen 3. With ORAS on the horizon though, I gotta give it to 6. Every pokemon we liked before. A shit ton of new ones that are cool too. The old ones that were just useless are getting good again (See: Mega-Pinsir). The game just keeps looking better and better. And now, easily one of the best gens if not the best gen is being remade in glorious 3D. You're entitled to your opinion, but fucking hell man gen 6 is dah best dah best
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Best Main Region - Black/White

Best Post Game - Emerald

Best In General - Platinum
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>>260371532
And plat proved that if that shit didn't exist they would have been the best.
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>>260371651
>wanting some stupid proto-meme glitch officially in the game that was only there in the first place because game freak couldn't program for shit in 1996
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>>260371647
Not him, but Gen 2 had really bizarre placement of new pokemon. For example, Falkner using a Pidgey and Pidgeotto instead of something like Noctowl.
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>>260371708
>Mega Evolutions added to R/S, which are already overrated as fuck.
I don't think so.
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>>260371826
>implying game freak can program for shit now
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>>260371395
no, the picture implies pokemon fans will happily lap up 9 million fox dog things, but the minute you do something based on an object it's the end of the world.
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>>260371647
Not the same guy but I don't think that's what he's saying, I'm playing SoulSilver now and I have 2 Gen 2 pokemon in my backpack, one of them being my starter. Most of the trainers and Gyms use Gen 1 pokemon.

Still good though.
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>>260371826
hi there, this site is 18+
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>>260371909
>There will never be a 60 fps pokémon game on the 3DS
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>>260371871
in gen 2 they weren't in the mindset of "all-new pokemon experience", it was a sequel, so all the old pokemon made a comeback with some new ones mixed in to make it interesting. i guess that's why they started to introduce a few more gimmicky pokemon. later gens (especially gen 5) would depend more on newer pokemon
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>>260363950
but fire red/leaf green fixed all that
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>>260365951
16 year olds today were born in 1998 m8
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>>260372172
And they aren't from 1st gen
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>>260372063
what does this site being 18+ have anything to do with what i was talking about? what, does my talking about game freak's stupid glitchbait gen 1 mean that i'm a ten year old?
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>>260371817
>>260371654
Thats held by HG/SS
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>>260372172
Great.
They're not 1st gen though.
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>>260371969
>no, the picture implies pokemon fans will happily lap up 9 million fox dog things
that's exactly the point. the focus on EVERYTHING MUST LOOK WILDLY UNIQUE just leads to the ridiculous shit you see in the later games.

subtle = good
simple = good
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>>260371871
Or how about Morty having a Gastly, two Haunters and no Misdreavus
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>>260372335
Platinum came out before HG/SS

>>260372137
Eh, it was just lame to not even be able to catch stuff like Houndour and Murkrow until postgame.
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>>260372389
would you rather have five pokemon that look almost exactly the same? what if they released a pikachu with two tails and called it a yikachu and expected it to catch on a completely new pokemon?
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>>260362621
>yellow was the same generation as blue and red
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>>260369736
>Gen 3
>Gen 1
>Gen 4
>Gen 3
>Gen 6
>Genything but Gen 1
>Gen 2
>Gen 2
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>>260370296
>Pokemon will NEVER stop having inanimate object based monsters.
Did you even play Gen 1?
No?
underage b& pls go
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>>260372471
i think you can catch houndours early on in crystal, but it was pretty shitty of them to restrict some of them to the postgame. they may have done that to give the player more incentive to check out kanto or something
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>>260372172
Firered and Leafgreen are 3rd gen
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>>260372536
>implying they don't already do that
There's a Pikachu clone every gen.
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Pokemon Silver/Gold

It has all the nostalgia of RBY, but more refined gameplay
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>>260372137
The main issue is that quite a few new pokemon were completely unavailable before post-game.
You couldn't even get Sneasel and Misdreavus until Mt. Silver
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>>260362621
Every subsequent generation with the possible exclusion of Kalos
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>>260372682
ebin b8 m8 haha
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>>260368373
>Anyone who argues that first gen was best gen is wearing nostalgia goggles

But first gen was best gen when it was the only gen.

It IS still best gen in my heart.
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>>260372389
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>>260368636
>5-10 hours worth of postgame
>the most postgame out of all pokemon games
yeah right. Besides, you can hardly call it postgame when the main quest ended prematurely by pokemon standards and said postgame is more like a half-hearted extension of it.
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>>260372629
>thinking yellow was a different generation than blue and red
it's almost the same game

>>260372727
i know there's a pikaclone in every game, but can't you name each one based on appearance alone? my point is they are clones, but they look distinct from all the other pokemon that came before. nobody would confuse a minun and a pichu or an emolga with a pikachu.
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>>260372536
nice false dichotomy
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>Charizard can't fly
>Only one dragon move and it's fixed
>The broken Psychic because the only Ghost types were part Poison
>Champion's Pokemon were missing a move each
>Bind and Wrap making you unable to move
>Waking up makes you miss a turn and gives the opponent another turn to put you asleep
Yeah nah, be a genwunner
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>>260372682
lol
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>>260373062
Name one with more postgame then, nigger.
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>>260373062
that's a lot of postgame next to "a battle facility" or "a single cave", even if the main quest ended after two badges or something, it would still be postgame if it came after the credits.
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>>260373013
subtle =/= everything needs to be a dog
also
>tumblr
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>>260363950
Who
The
Fuck
Played Pokemon competitively, thats is fucking ridiculous
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>>260362621

All of them except Gen 2, which is objectively the worst.

Gen 3 a best.
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>>260373242
Platinum and B2W2 both had substantial post-game on top of a complete pre-elite four.
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>>260373373
a fucking ton of people dude, even back then
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>>260373432
Oh look, a gen 3 bandwagoner.
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>>260363950
not everything on that list is actually bad
>leech seed toxic combo
considering the fast paced nature of gen 1 this made both moves viable
>crits based of speed
a design choice, most of the truly fast pokemon were not that great so it was a way to balance them
>instakill moves based off speed
even today they're fairly useless with 30% hit rate
>agility/swords dance
made those moves more useful sure, but that may very well have been intended
>Haze
intended effect, a downside
>counter
fully intended, not a true problem the move just works differently now
>warp,bind etc
again a design choice, those moves were nearly useless from gen 2 onwards so it did not improve at all
>roar/whirlwind
you previously acknowledged haze exists so you're not fucked
>hyperbeam
move was actually useful back then, if anything the fix is a problem
>ghosts immune to struggle
intended and considering the rarity of ghosts, not a problem what so ever.
>substitute self kill
it deals 25% damage, killing yourself by using it at an inappropriate time is intended
>everything about rage
was fully and completely intentional. Sure it was not a good move but rage has never EVER been useful
>mimic
intended, arguably it works better that way
>disable
also intended may also be superior
>bide
its actually a useful move that way instead of being completely pointless
>multi hit moves
intended, logical and not an issue
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>>260373432
>objectively the worst
You need to explain yourself after such a bold claim.
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>>260373498
>This entire post
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>>260363802
>implying i don't like gen 1 and 2 most because the pokemon after that are pants on head retarded
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>>260373432
>"my first pokemon game was emerald"
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>>260362621
The remakes are objectively better.
Also, >>>/vp/
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>>260373145
You want hilarity

Look at the movesets of Gen 1 sometime. Scyther or Pinsir in particular.
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>>260372313
missingno was popular, unless you were not alive when it happened you should know that
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>>260373468
You would fault a game to being shit just because it wasn't balanced for multiplayer bullshit
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>>260363950
Isn't toxic supposed to just revert to normal poison when the affected pokemon switches out? I thought all the games do this
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>>260373449
>Platinum's tiny little island more than future Kanto
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>>260373585
what, mad your little picture isn't the end to all things?
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>>260373589
Jynx is my waifu too
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>>260373468
Go away Eliwood.

People like Pokémon better than FE
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>>260373842
>future Kanto
>not a neutered and empty region
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>>260362621
Gen 3, then gen 4, then gen 1, then gen 2, then gen 6, then gen 5.

Only thing gen 6 had going for it in terms of pokemon were the starters.

Am I the only one who really loved the legendaries of gen 4? I just love the designs and the way the events played out to get those pokemon, especially the mystery event pokemon in gen 5 like Shaymin, Darkrai, and Arceus.
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>>260369280
sudowoodo is, he's a fake bonsai tree
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>>260362621
>Name a better board for discussing Pokemon.

/vp/
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>>260374209
he's based on stone trees which exist
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Platinum, and that's an objective fact.

Now for more important matters: would you a Mesprit?
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>>260373916
Are you angry, anon?
You can defend these "design choices" and "intended" sutff all you want but that doesn't make them excusable.
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>>260373538

Simple, Gen 2's dex was nothing but shitmons that were cut from the first game for being too garbage, with a few gems. The region was small and lifeless, few new Pokemon were available for use as many were hidden in the hilariously underlevelled and completely barren postgame, the level scaling was the worst it has ever been, the gameplay promoted stall above all else. even the plot, the LEAST important aspect of pokemon by far, was the weakest by a longshot- "team rocket is blindly groping around after being beheaded by Red, watch them enact their master plan to beg Giovanni to come back". also, baby pokemon. just, baby pokemon. need anything else be said?

it had some damn catchy tunes and a VERY few amazing pokemon, and i loved it as much as anyone else back in the day, but looking back those were some flawed motherfucking games.

>>260373641

Blue
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>>260371295
>not sure if srs
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>>260373498
How can someone be so retarded?
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>>260363527
My first Pokémon game was Red and to this day I still hold that Gold is objectively the best Pokémon game.
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Is Pokemon Bank still free for a while if you haven't downloaded it yet?
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>>260374383
a lot of those "faults" are because a few moves are situational

every single gen introduced highly situational moves as well, so why is it only a critical design issue in gen 1 and not every single gen afterwards as well
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>>260374143
>genwunner-tier over-exaggeration

>>260374209
>implying plants aren't alive
or
>implying some real life animals don't use their bodies to pretend to be other things
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Nostalgiafags will defend this.
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3>2>1>6>5>4
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>>260374426
I dunno, you could go beyond by say, responding to a post saying only its retarded without having any idea why, how or if its retarded
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>>260374531
It had a free trial period on launch, now it's 5 bucks a year. It's really worth it if you have more than one previous pokemon game, especially for something as dirt cheap as 5 dollars for 365 days.
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>>260374675
Because if they were "intended" they wouldn't be fixed? And most of the stuff you said that made sense don't make sense at all. You also didn't adress to other flaws because nobody can even defend them without wearing nostalgia glasses
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>>260374812

Star Wars right?
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>>260373751
>>260373751
i'm well aware. i just don't think there was ever any chance of that shit getting into an actual game and the fact that it did become popular should make game freak infinitely ashamed for letting such a glitch even exist
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>>260374801
I'll fight you, m8
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>>260374801
What exactly is wrong with Poliwhirl?
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>>260374812
love this "gen 4 is bad" maymay
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5 = 3 > 6 > 4 > 1 >>>> 2
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>>260374794
>genwunner-tier over-exaggeration
Kanto was barren and boring even in its home gen, gen 2 somehow managed to make it even more barren.
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>>260375021
why should they be ashamed? Its a glitch true, lots of games have glitches, some of them render your entire game unplayable

the missingno glitch on the other hand pretty much was additional content. Its the sort of secret that would be almost impossible to top even if you were actively TRYING to make a secret.

nobody hated gamefreak for missingno being in, heck the glitchy nature of the first pokemon games together with all the urban rumors they created actively helped the games gain popularity
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>>260375286
mooooooot
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>>260375247
Are you that surprised that most people don't like what you like?
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>>260362621

SoulSilver/HeartGold.

No words needed.
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>>260363514
Mio negro
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>>260373767
i never said anything about it being shit because of random multiplayer bullshit. i would however fault a game for being mechanically damn broken even in regular gameplay
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>absolutely no challenge whatsoever
>smallest postgame of any pokemon game, barring the gen 1originals
>most new pokemon were shitty and there were hardly any of them anyway
>worse story than previous gens (not like it really matters, but still)
>there are people that actually liked gen 6

Not even nostalgia, I fucking adored gen 5. But 6 was just an abomination, it's like they put all their effort into balance changes and didn't even try with anything else.
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>>260375247
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>>260362621
The remakes make the old games obsolete. Deal with it fag.
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>>260374982
my first line is "not all things"
I'm not saying everything in gen 1 was perfect but I am saying that it wasn't as bad as the gen1 haters like to make people believe

and a LOT of things have changed in the pokemon games, the fact that the physical/special split was introduced doesn't mean that gen 1, 2 and 3 are absolutely and utterly irredeemable shit and some of the bugs made various moves significantly more useful than their current incarnations like hyperbeam, bide, and the wrapping moves
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>>260374801
>tfw love most evolutions from every gen that "just get bigger and angrier"
>tfw they're always used in the gen wars
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>>260375436
additional content my ass. if pokemon only got off the ground because game freak fucking sucks at programming games that's goddamn embarassing.
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>>260375702
the remakes count as gen 1, so that's a moot point.
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>>260375672
>absolutely no challenge whatsoever

when did you actually lose aside from doing stuff like barging into misty's gym without a grass type or letting whitney's miltank roll out
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>>260375672
Just wait for Z for the postgame.
And I actually really like the 6th gen designs (Most megas not included) since they were simpler. Zygarde looks like something from Ben 10 though
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>>260372732
I actually liked that about the games, I remember being pretty excited as a wee lad encountering these strange new pokemon in these strange places even late into the game. Maybe they could have introduced some sooner but I'm glad they didn't just flood you with new pokemon from the start and remove any surprises from the game.
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>>260375894
the entire fighting game genre exists because of a glitch, should you be embarrassed for playing fighting games?
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>>260376043
They don't, you retard.

>There are people that say that Gen 1 was the best when they only played Fire Red\Leaf Green
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>>260375685
You best not be shitting on enhanced magnetic Easter Island head
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Anyone else played this? I have over 30 hours in this and have visited only half of map.
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>>260375685
>hating based probopass

either way, i raise you an even more retarded pokemon
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>>260376046

I rarely lost, but in gen 6 you just steamroll because all 6 of your pokes are 10+ levels higher than everything as soon as you get out of the second town
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>>260376384
at least its not a jewish stereotype
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>>260375868
Name one other pokemon that changes as little when it evolves that isn't Poliwrath. Poliwrath's evolution is so lame the first thing Gen 2 was fix it and give Poliwhirl something better to become.
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>>260376473
Poliwrath looks better than Politoad
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>>260376246
all of video games were made by a glitch made by bill jobs when he was playing with the apple windows 97 and made pong tennis

shut the fuck up with this missingno shit
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>>260376384
CHECK
MATE
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>>260376471
instead it's an asian stereotype
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>>260376384
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>>260376338
literally what
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>>260376674
>doesn't know about the history of fighting games

yeh, we really should be checking the age of folks better
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>>260376823
Hey this one isn't actually that bad.
The ears are fucking ridiculous though.
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>>260376471
>Japanese-designed Easter Island heads are Jewish stereotypes

Perhaps you're seeing things where they don't actually exist
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>>260373145
charizard can fly in gen1 the fuck you sayin?
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>>260376823
>but...but... its an icicle

explain the straw
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>>260362621
5>6>1>3>2>4
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>>260376983
RB doesn't let Charizard Fly
Yellow did, because anime
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>>260375247
It's the most forgettable
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>>260376906
my point is who exactly was talking about fighting games?
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>>260377069
Its its anus
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Sinnoh is my favorite.
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>gen 3
>good
>liking Oceans the Game
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>>260377069
>eating ice cream cones with a straw
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>>260376676
>literal pokeball pokemon
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>>260376338
just googled it, shit nigga that looks hella cool
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5>3>6>4>2>1
Oops, I'm right
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>>260377290
Diamond and Pearl are shit games set in a pretty good region
Platinum is the best Pokemon released yet
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>>260377398
Voltorb still looks less retarded than that Downs Syndrome beaver.
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>>260377258
you say anything based on a glitch is an unforgivable sin that must be ignored at all times
I counter by saying a well liked genre is largely based on a set of glitches
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>>260377496
>Downs Syndrome beaver

Don't bash one of Pokemon's most precious traditions
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>>260377069
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>>260373373
> Not wanting to be the very best
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>>260377334
>not putting one of these in your icecream
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>>260377651
Slowpoke's gimmick is that he comes off as intelligent as a retard.

Bibarel does not have that excuse in his favor.
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>people complaining about pokemon games being easy
They were always easy, you were just 6
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>>260377398
>its grin is a voltorb eye
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>>260377494
Sinnoh had some great designs too.
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>>260362621
gen2. It did evrything that gen 1 did but better.
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>>260377498
i was talking about how missingno's popularity is completely ridiculous and asking why gamefreak themselves would want to put it in a game

i'm done arguing with you i don't even know what i'm fighting about anymore
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>>260377651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce5mRvkAePU
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>>260377891
Bidoof is literally beaver + doofus
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>>260377910
that one rocket member with a lv 16 raticate in mt. moon could actually pose a threat if you didn't catch geodude
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>>260377997
Not all of them were good though.
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>>260378117
No it couldn't if you had evolved your starter
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>>260378020
missingno's popularity isn't ridiculous
interesting glitches making games better is not a new phenomena and wasn't even new when pokemon just came out
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>>260367002
Only mechanically.
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>>260377069
another icicle stuck into the top
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>>260378312
it could actually kill a charmeleon with its hyper fang
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>>260377494
this

i played the fuck out of platinum, shame pokemon bank decided to say my arceus was hacked, but i at least have 2 of each legendary from playing pearl+platinum
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>gen 1 >>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>> the other gens
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>>260378307
Fuck you, Bastiodon is great.
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>>260378453
>round, hollow icicle
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You're actually right.
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>>260370450
>Gen 6
>best rivals

More =\= better
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>>260378320
missingno doesn't make the game better. it serves to exemplify why gen 1 is objectively awful in comparison to what pokemon would eventually become mechanically. the entire game was full of stupid oversights and unmeant glitches and missingno manages to be the pinnacle of that, the perfect bastion of bad programming in video games.

now please let me stop responding to you
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>>260374983
>3 being the best star wars
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>>260362621
5th gen
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>>260378905
the perfect bastion of bad programming is big rigs, pokemon was playable

and as evidenced by how kids everywhere LOVED missingno it made the game better. If a feature increases the total satisfaction with your game its a good feature, even if its unintended

like how in fighting games combo's at first were glitches
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>>260378685
>implying you can't see the slight tapering
>implying that hole isn't just shadowing from the mist coming off of it
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Best rival

Your rivals were pansies after this guy and you never had a reason to dislike them after this guy.
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>>260365642
Hahaha
>muh 3d
>muh Charizard :3
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>>260379251
the smoke is coming out of the hole

and its got a circular stripe like a cookie
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>>260362621
You're asking them for the impossible OP.

I mean sure, idiots may throw out brash half-baked ideas just like in any public forum, but at the end of the day there is no answer for your impossible question.

There simply is no better generation.

Might as well start calling it "The Greatest Generation".
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>mfw facing battle frontier brains for the first time
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>>260379535
fuck, good point
well, that's what i get for trying to do the impossible and defend the ice cream.
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5>3>4>6>2>1
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Just finished X and Y

Holy shit it was terrible.
Why do people like this shit?
Is it the multiplayer or something because there is literally nothing to do. I already have a team of Pokemon I've bred.
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>>260363950
>mfw i've encountered like 2 of the problems on this list ever

>mfw the person or people who compiled this list of things were competitive lvl100 vs lvl100 players

>i enjoy the games just fine by leveling my pokemon a bit higher than everyone elses and matching elements to my advantage (except when fighting gary/blue, i always use my starter to express dominance over his faggotry)

>mfw i play later generation pokemon games, there's fucking stats and ev's and sv's and xv's and fucking traits and all this other bullshit that was put in place to make the game more balanced for competition when all i want to do is have a relatively straight forward adventure with little to no handholding palling around with pokemon i think are cool and not have to think about all that other stupid bullshit

btw gen 2 is the best
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>>260379284
>want another dickhead asshole thief in gen 7
>beat his ass into the ground
>always is a dickhead asshole
>runs off like a bitch at the end of the game after stomping him at the E4 champions
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>>260379243
did you poll every single child on the planet and see how many of them LOVED missingno?

god damn it stop making me come back to this fucking thread i can't put up with your stupid dodging bullshit WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY PUT MISSINGNO IN A MAIN SERIES GAME ON PURPOSE? 7/10 I'M PRETTY MAD
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>>260380289
But EVs and IVs existed since gen 1, anon
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>>260376947
She is supposed to be a reference to Kimba the White Lion
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>>260380519
considering how the speculation about hidden features in pokemon was quite literally a global phenomena it can be reasonably assumed most people did indeed like it

in fact you're the first person I've met who actively dislikes missingno
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>>260380519
Because it's fucking awesome.

How new are you?

Not even the poster you're replying to.
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>>260380519
People have cosplayed Missingno. That alone shows popularity.
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>My favorite Pokemon

what are you fags gonna do about it?
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>>260381281
>guy cosplaying missingno
>carries two water guns on him

the little things
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>>260381629
this is my favorite
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>>260376471
Obviously havent heard the way it says its name in the anime.
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The game has been the same shit every since generation 1. Fight gym, defeat evil organization, beat elite 4.

Arguably gen 1 2 3 and 5 have the best pokemon designs, with 4 and 6 going full retard mode on overpowered pokemon and megas evolution. Spikes everywhere.
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>>260381629
It's not a bad design. People just bring it up because genwunners act like gen 1 had no pokemon based on inanimate objects.
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>>260381629
but it doesn´t have levitate for whatever fucking reason to cancel out its double weakness to ground. do you feel the pain? do you feel it ?
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>>260381948
fuck u
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>>260382114
>everyone and their mother gets levitate
>save for magnemite line

fuck this bullshit
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>>260382085
Yeah, you'd know about inanimate objects
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>>260377910
>dat Miltank tho
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>>260382085
Fuck off spider, I don't trust you.
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>>260382085
I don't trust you.
Skeletons don't exist.
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>>260381948
>>260382536
>>260382554

>>/b/
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>>260382085
fuck off skellgton
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>tfw huge urge to replay gen 5
>tfw had a blast playing through gen 5 games
>tfw huge urge to replay gen 6
>bought pokebank
>tfw enjoyed playing through gen 6
>tfw hyped for ORAS
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I'm a nostalgiafag too, OP, but even I know Gen 2 was the best.
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>>260377910
>pokemon emerald
>battle frontier
>frontier brains use brokenly EV trained pokemon
>easy
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>>260382776
>open pic
>she's naked isn't she
>mfw she was
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The gens, in order from worst to best are 4<1<5<6<3<2
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>>260382708
>>>/out/
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>>260383075
have another one
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hard mode = any other gen that isn't 2
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>>260380584
>evs and ivs existed since gen 1

yeah but it was a whole lot more simple and straight forward

beat pokman, get exp, get exp, level up

bam boom
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>>260370450
>>Pokemon Designs
Gen 1, Gen 5
>>Gyms
Gen 1, 2, & 3 (for being more to the point), Every gen after that
>>Pokemon League
Gen 5, Gen 6
>>music/instrument selection
Gen 4's mellow overworld themes do it for me, none of them are bad
>>Art Style
Gen 3, Gen 6 (Especially for male characters)
>>Competitive Balance
Gen 4, Gen 1, it's not even debatable
>>HMs/TMs/Move Tutor
Gen 5 for reusable TMs, Gen 4 for many useless HMs
>>Rival(s)
Gen 1 by far, Gen 3 (Hoenn, not Kanto)
>>Champion/Bonus Bosses
Gen 2 (Fucking Red!), Gen 5
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>>260378868
He said they were the worst.
The list is Best\Worst
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>>260381948
This is honestly my favorite meme
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>>260383608
>beat pokman, get exp, get exp, level up

It's the same shit now. The only thing that is different is that you can see your EVs because of Super Training.
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>>260369736
Haven't played BW 2 and XY yet
>pokemon designs
Gen 3/Gen 5
>gyms
Gen 4/Gen 5
>pokemon league
Gen 4, Gen 5
>music/instrument selection
Gen 2/ haven't heard a bad pokemon soundtrack
>art style
Gen 4/Gen 3
>'balance' competitive wise
Gen 4/Gen 1
>HMs/TMs/Move tutor
Gen 3/Gen 4
>Rival(s)
Gen 2/Gen 3
>Champion/bonus bosses
Gen 2/Gen 5
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What the fuck is up with the hype surrounding Gen 2?

It was the gen I started with and now it's my least favorite.

>worst pacing
>worst pokemon distribution
>can't make a 6 pokemon team without being severely underleveled

It has arguably the best atmosphere and that's it.
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>>260381629
based anon
You are the first person I know that agrees with me
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>>260385272

>can't make a 6 pokemon team without being severely underleveled

Hasn't that always been a problem? The only time I remember that wasn't the case was X and Y, although Exp Share is stupid good in that game.
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ORAS will be the best games in the series.

Literally the only flaw with Gen 3 is that it was made before the physical/special split.
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>>260377069
This might make your little head explode:
POKEMON CAN BE BASED ON MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME
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>>260385542
Depends what game. It's doable in XY, Platinum and the Gen 5games. I think it's doable in Emerald but I'm not sure.
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>>260385272
>Worst pokémon distribution
That belongs to Gen IV
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>>260385961
Fixed in Platinum and even before it wasn't aa bad as G/S.
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>>260385576
>implying
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>>260385789

I see, I wasn't much of a fan of B/W and in B/W2 I still only stuck to a party of 3-4 for any fighting. Going for 6 felt like I was stretching my experience too thin.
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>>260386282
The oceans were GOAT though, especially the south. The only problem was the lack of wild pokemon variety, which should be a non-issue because there have been three generations since then.
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>>260386237
>4 fire types
>Wasn't as bad
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>>260386825
>Borrow 65% of another gens pokemon
>Several lines aren't available until post game
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>>260362621
Literally any other gen.

Gen 1 was a technological mess and it was FILLED with bugs, it had virtually no post game, the pre-Yellow sprites were fucking terrible, and gameplay wise it's inferior to every other game.

Seriously, there's absolutely no reason to think Gen 1 is better than the other gens besides nostalgia faggotry. You can prefer it all you want but it's objectively inferior.

You could have at least posted the Gen 1 remakes(which is still inferior anyway because lol no phys/special split)
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>fighting Cyrus
>fighting Cynthia
>tag battle with Barry
>reaching Giratina
>those cute winter clothes, see pic
Platinum a best
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>>260363247
Literally this

More Pokemon per cart, more features, more polished, more depth to combat mechanics, more types, online capabilities, etc are things that we see in later games. These are objective improvements.

Literally the only arguments people give for the first two gens boil down to subjective shit like aesthetics and worthless shit like nostalgia.
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played red and yellow the most. then i got silver. silver was fantastic because of the way the world seemed decently real and eventful due to competitions and the trainers calling you.

gen 1 pokemon will always be the best but you got all of those plus new pokemon in gen 2.

anyone remember pokemon trading card game the game, though? totally underrated.
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>>260374801
this dude was badass!
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>>260388620
Awesome game, wish i had a pal to play with so i could get those extra cards. I heard that it's available on the 3ds now in the online store but i don't think there's any multi-player function.
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>>260367002
More like fucking retarded race, every game holds your hand even harder and gets more boring, they are piss easy with gyms that barely have 3 pokemon teams it is pathetic.
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>>260391346
Yes, they were always easy.
However i laugh at people saying that gym leaders having more than three Pokémon makes them more difficult.
These same people think a gym leader 8 having a Luvdisc and/or an unevolved Pokémon actually present more of a challenge.
Wulfric's Cryogonal alone is enough to defeat Giovanni by itself, even without counting it being ice type, his team had terrible special defense. On top of having a Rhyhorn instead of another ground type like Golem.
Wallace had a goddamn Luvdisc and a Sealeo instead of, i don't know, Sharpedo or Wailord.
Bruno instead of two useless Onix could had Primeape and Poliwrath.

It's the Pokémon that counts, not the number of them.
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>>260388620
I had it on my old PC and played it so long I got headaches
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>>260362621
Crystal.
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>>260391309
Goddamn it. I looked on 3ds. It's not there. That game was awesome
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>>260376302
I wouldn't shit on him so much if they didn't decide to give him fucking kawaii eyes instead of something like moai head eyes or something.

Nosepass was the best, look at what they've done to him. LOOK AT IT
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>>260362621
i prefer gen 2
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>>260362621
Shit no arguments over here OP. Gen1 was the shiznit and living to witness pokemon's greatest height was incredible. Childrens childhood these days consists of shit like CoD, Minecraft and newgen pokeshit.

My childhood > new gens childhood
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>>260393750
That's a Pokémon stylization of how coral eyes actually are that moais actually have though.
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>>260392182
There should be multiple strong pokemon which is why gen 1 is the best game on top of everything else
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>>260395169
But i just told you that not even gen 1 has that.
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>>260362621
3
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>>260362621
6>5>4>3>2>1

This is objective fact.
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>>260362621
Gen 5. /thread
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>>260394535
Was the equivalent fad to pokemon when it released? Has there been anything that cane lose to its popularity? I remember long ass lines for shitty Burger King mcdonalds toys
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>>260397165
that's literally retarded

>>260396917
that's literally stupid and figuratively retarded
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>>260367683
>http://strawpoll.me/2443432
so the game should be good because they fixed something after 4 gens? it was a nice competitive change, doesn't make the gen any less shit
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>>260362621
Of course I can't, I only played these ones and Gold/Silver.
I gave up on this series over a decade ago.
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>>260397245
>that's literally stupid and figuratively retarded
No it isn't.

Each gen adds more content and more balances to the game.

6th gen is the best set so far purely because they're the best balance and most amount of pokemon.
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>>260362621
The first gen was objectively the worst gen. If it hasn't been posted already, does anybody have that info pic showing everything wrong with Gen 1?
For a combination of nostalgia and playability, Gen 2 has a special place in my heart, personally.
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>>260374407
While I disagree with you, you make fair points
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>>260397245
Ok what gen do you think is the best anon? can't go around calling people retarded with nothing to rebuttal with.
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>>260397506
Are you having a fucking giggle?
Competitive balance has only been getting fucked up more and more, with permaweather in gen 5 and Mega-evo's in Gen 6.
If most of the content isn't relevant, then it doesn't make the game better.

>>260397920
4.
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>>260362621
2432523346

There
Didn't even need to look at the keyboard
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>>260398013
>4th gen is your favorite gen
lol
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>>260398109
>being this mad over my objective superiority
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>>260398013
>Competitive balance has only been getting fucked up more and more, with permaweather in gen 5 and Mega-evo's in Gen 6.
>If most of the content isn't relevant, then it doesn't make the game better.
Holy shit, you're so retarded.
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>>260362621
Gold was best, yellow being second for me.
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>>260384401
its not entirely the same. there is a reason you could transfer pokemon between gen 1 and 2 but not 2 or 1 to 3.
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>>260398331
None of that was retarded in any way, shape or form.
It doenst matter how many 10 BP special new moves I have and how many variations of Limber we get, if I can stick to Guts Close Combat then the meta stays the same way it did before.
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>>260397206
Well there's been tons, but within gaming? You pretty much can't find anything as big as first gen pokemon and to a lesser degree second gen. I'm talking childhood phase/fad here. Pokemon may not have been a fad that died but most people tuned out after the first pokemon. Shit was fucking magical. The toys, the show, the cards, the games, the everything. Now kids autistically play minecraft or yell into mics during CoD matches. Those faggots need to get a new childhood.
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>>260367374
Go replay it. Its empty and souless compared to the original Kanto. If you're going to say Johto is the best, at least say HGSS. If I remember right it didn't fix the bad level scaling and Pokemon distribution in routes all that much (off the top of my head you can't get Slugma, a gen 2 Pokemon, until you get to fucking Kanto), but at least its easy on the eyes and has the original music available in it.

XY and BW2 are by far the best ones out there though.
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>>260398013
Gen IV? Are you shitting me? Designs for 90% shit, Villain team was forgettable, the only thing I remember this gen for is giving more evolve forms to gen 1 pokemon, which all of them look morbidly obese. This game is a shitstain and often considered the worst gen. My friends thought Pokemon was going to sink, that's how god-awful it was. They have a pokemon who created the entire universe. A pokemon. Who is god. Just stop anon.
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>>260362621
Pokemon Black, because muh waifu.
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>>260398703
>None of that was retarded in any way, shape or form.
Yes it was. You are one of the most vapid posters in this entire thread and I just got here, holy shit.
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The gen one pokemon were actually the best in my opinion, but the later games are much better.
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>>260398109
I can understand disliking DP, but what's wrong with HGSS and Platinum?
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>>260362621
2 and 3 were way better. past that its all just meh

And this is coming from a guy who can remember the day he got Pokemon red when it came out and climbed into the trunk of the car to rip it out of the bag and start playing before getting home
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>>260362621
>playing pokemans
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>>260398863
Nice try, but no.
>designs for 90 percent shit
Objectively wrong. The only shit designs were most added evo's but the gen-unique pokemon were top tier.
Team Galactic was the single most badass there was. The game is mechanically perfect with a top-tier story, some of the best gyms and definitely the best champion.
>Pokemon cant be God even though the pre-apricorn era literally deifies the pokemon we now know as the legendaries

>>260399001
>ignoring the comments
just quit the trolling, kidderoo
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How can you dweebs say RBY/GSC were best then right after say "hurr I haven't played anything past that"? What makes you think your opinion is worth anything? There have been so many games since then and things keep changing for the better, at least when it comes to battle mechanics.
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>>260399295
>Carl ugh.jpg

*sigh*
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>>260398221
>Believes his shit taste is superior
Starting to get mad, eh?
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>>260399425
>Balancing Doesn't count!
>Content doesn't count!
Yeah, you're pretty retarded anon.
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>>260379284
Oh look, it's the faggot rival that didn't even bother to battle gym leaders because of how shitty he was.
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Best endgame
Best game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiDUh-LHrDU
Best
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>>260399585
>*sigh*
Urgg.........
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>>260385576
>>260382776
>being hyped for the 5th release of the SAME FUCKING GAME
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>>260400016
overrated trash

there's a reason why there's no emerald remake with or/as
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>>260399907
I bet you prefer the hugbox rivals in the new games that are all fun and nice to you and pose no threat or challenge.
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>>260386282
Repels, fast surf speed, diveable areas that let you skip a good portion of the routes, and you get fly a little before the major water routes.
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>>260399425
Im playing plat right now on my supercard. you cant ruse me. the post game is nice, ill admit. but the story throughout is mediocre, gym leaders without challenge. The starters are so bad it hurts. This game is crap.
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>>260400292
>I like to pretend to be retarded
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>>260400292
Based on that logic Crystal is trash too cause it had no remake with HG/SS.
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>>260398959
Why she dress as slut? Its a kid game?
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>Opinions, the thread
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>>260402310
So?
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>>260362621
Better question: Who the bes Pokemom?
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>>260402942
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>>260374176
I think gen 4 should be > than gen 3. Gen4 fixed special attack and attack assignments to move and had pretty sweet pokemon. In terms of story tho I think gen3 takes the cake
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>>260403259
competitive balancing doesn't change that fact that gen is shit in comparison to the rest in terms of gameplay. did he make competitive battling better? Of course. but what if you're not a competitive player? game is now useless. on to the next thread.
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>>260400228
mrgrgr...
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>>260403115
>that knowing grin and wink
>holding best starter
>and has money for you
do you even have to ask which is best, it's clearly gentoo
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>>260405348
>has money for you

it's your fucking money
or the money of her child (depending what fantasy you prefer)
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>>260363950
why heal doesn't work on 255?
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It has yet to be surpassed.
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>>260362621
Gen 5

Eat me, genwunner.
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Gen 3 because updated and fixed versions of your generation are in it
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>>260363950
>f**cked

why does it bother me that much

(though the guy doesn't seem to like 1st gen and it shows but i guess i can understand that he is somewhat upset with all those people liking the first gen the most)
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>>260406561
Because they were shitty programmers and didn't understand the variable size they were using.
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My problem with Gens after 1 and 2 is that the fucking pokemon no longer look like they're type. I have better things to do than memorize 500+ pkemon types.
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>>260408626
What?
Search Hawlucha in google.
Try to guess his type
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>>260409806
His type is obviously mexican.
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