Snake and Kaz arrive at hospital >no shrapnel in his head

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>>259812932
Bloody, long horn, mechanical arm. Probably after the middle east gameplay footage.

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>>259812932

it's probably being pushed out by his body to serve as a clumsy metaphor for BB's decent into becoming a demon.

Unecessary bandages are a japanese/animu trope

>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1
uwotm8?

>>259812932
Shrapnel/Venom Snake is the first Big Boss clone. They couldn't even get his voice right.

>what about him
WHO KAZ

>>259813356
A brain can't push a 10cm shrapnel from itself, not to mention he would be dead by now.
And anon who knows what centers of his brain were scrambled due to the shrapnel? And how he'll go insane due to it?

>>259814157
There a no two snakes in TPP, even if he was a clone he would be like ~16.

>>259812932
Old snake with a mechanical arm is gonna look so much like Joseph Joestar it's not even funny

>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1
Ahahaha what an idiot.

The timeline is still kind of convoluted though.

>>259813356
I doubt it's being pushed out. I assumed that it started long and they filed it down or something, but the timeline of when all this happened is too hard to tell from the trailers.

>>259814365

>Metal Gear series known for accurate realistic portrayals of battlefield injuries.

Come on anon, this is fucking MGS. Is something has to be unrealistic for storyline purposes it fucking will be

>>259815263
Shortening it down doesn't work because of his left arm.
>bloody snake, long horn, already has the mechanical arm
>fire hospital, shortened horn, no mechanical arm.
>middle east snake, just got the mechanical arm as he can't use it properly yet.

>>259816159
Maybe the hospital part was made before the other parts of the story and in the final game it will make more sense. Besides, in the hospital he had some kind of hook thing.

Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't in the final game and the entire scene was a Kojima joke

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>>259816413
The hospital escape is before the middle east footage, the hook he has is a basic prosthetic arm.
It is still weird why a man who's lying in bed for 9 year have a prosthesis attached.

>>259816801
MGSV; Awakening confirmed.

>>259817026
I'm saying that that part was developed before the story was complete and so might not be consistent with how the final game will be. Maybe in the final game Snake will have a long piece of shrapnel in his head in the hospital. Maybe it's inconsistent because Kojima wants to throw off any speculating about the story of the game. There's tons of possible reasons.

>>259812932
Can he use his horn for magic?

So what will phantom pain be about? All we know about it is Big Boss wakes from a coma 9 years after ground zeroes and joins Ocelot's PMC, diamond dogs, but that's just the very beginning of the game.

Is he pulling another MGS2 and only using the very beginning to market the game?

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>>259817750

Jesus Christ.

>>259812932
>"Nothing to be ashamed of. Pain get's the better of us all" quote from the MSF prisioner in Camp Omega
>Chico's unexplained freakout when he sees Snake's face.
>All the inconsistencies between Big Boss and Venom Snake

A Big Boss look alike is pretty much confirmed

>>259817656
Some people are saying that there's too much focus on Quiet and Joosten for her to just be a minor character/boss character. People are saying she might be the actual protagonist. Not sure how believable that is though.

>>259817750
It's shrapnel. Or at least that's the most likely explanation. Maybe Kojima is pulling something here as well.

>>259813134
Devil red Snake and those crosses around him. This image is awesome.

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>>259817493
Makes sense, the whole hospital sequence is weird and out of place, the "leak" also said the hospital won't be in the game.
>>259817548
He can use to stab you in the dick.
>>259817656
It is most likely about the seed planted into BB by Volgin sprouting, turning him into the man he becomes in the end.
>Volgin confirmed for major role, not even ocelot has a figurine
>>259817750
Could be, he still doesn't even have a scar in MGS2.

The horn will probably get longer or shorter depending on how severe Snake's hallucinations get at any given time.

>>259814592


Which is why Eli is Liquid

>>259818529
>Could be, he still doesn't even have a scar in MGS2.
Big Boss is not in MGS1 or MGS2. I think you're new to the games and are mistaking who is who.

>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1
>no horn
>>259818529
>Could be, he still doesn't even have a scar in MGS2.

I think you're very confused about who Big Boss actually is.

>>259818138
Possible, not confirmed.
>>259818152
Quiet has a lot of focus on her, she'll probably be a companion.
>>259818315
"leak" says it's after BB kills a good amount of civilians in an attack.
It's the moment he realizes what he has become and inherits Volgin's memes over The Bosses.

>>259818814
>>259819142
He appears in both games, are you insane?

>>259819210
It bother me so much that they decide to make a big deal out Volgin just like that.

I understand he is the ultimate reason to why Snake had to kill the Boss, but it's never mentioned until now

>>259819459

Big Boss does not appear in those games. Solid Snake is in those games.

>>259819459
Big Boss != Solid Snake

Big Boss is not in Metal Gear Solid 1 or Metal Gear Solid 2. Maybe you're meaning Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2?

>>259819459
Are you thinking of Metal Gear 1 and 2?

>>259819496

>Did I miss something ? Volgin is actually gonna be relevant in TPP ?

>>259819496
He basically killed The Boss the moment he nuked the research facility.
He also tortured BB, made him pee his pants.
Sexually harassed him, took his innocence from him.
Snake even gets a nuclear warhead armed Metal Gear just like Volgin to gain power and stir shit up.

>>259819829

Woops, sorry for the accidental quote

>>259819904
On the other hand he basically created Ocelot's torture fetish.

>>259819636
>>259819725
>>259819780
Not as the protagonist you crazy fucks.

I didn't like Volgin as a villain. He wasn't compelling, he was just an asshole.

>>259819636
Big boss has a codec call in 1 near the end with solid snake doesn't he? I am not sure about 2 though. Only played it once not long after its release so I don't know shit about 2 anymore.

>>259820129
He's nowhere in either game. The only game where he's not a protagonist but still shows up in is MGS4.

>>259820154
He was glorious in his assholery though.

>>259820281
Big Boss is assumed dead by MGS1 and only shows back up alive in MGS4. The president talks to Ocelot at the end of MGS1.

>Listing appearances in MGS 1&2 like they mean anything

Kojima did not have this all planned out since then. Things get retconned.

>>259820129

When does he appear in those games?

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>>259820154
He's the only MG villain to archive his goal of overthrowing the government and passed his memes to BB who shaped the MG universe, Volgin is possibly the most influential person in Snakes life after Zero.

>>259820534
I am confirmed for retarded, I was remembering the colonel talking to snake about Big Bosses body. My bad.

So, will you be able to build and explore your base like in Peace Walker?

>>259821485

Yes. There is also a multiplayer component where other players invade your Motherbase.

>>259812932
Because the whole hospital rescue was a ruse

>>259814365
It actually happens. Your body will naturally push out shrapnel if some of it is outside the body.

I had a 4 inch long piece a few inches from my balls that they decided removing would be dangerous and we let it work it's way out.

You know, MGS 1 is kind of the odd man out in the series. While 2 and 4 are almost straight up Sci Fi and 3 and Peace Walker take a lot of influence from James Bond, MGS 1 is more or less a straight up Tom Clancy riff with a few fantastical elements.

>>259821485
You couldn't explore your base in 3D in PW but you can in MGSV. So yeah, you can design your base however you want, I assume in a certain area, and then between missions you can walk around it and interact with soldiers and stuff. And anything you fulton during missions will go back there and physically exist in your base. One of the things they showed for instance was Snake fultoning a sheep and then it being at his base when he went back.

>>259812932
Is it worth trying to replay MGS2? Because I stopped trying to get into the series at the second game. First was ok, even if mediocre, I guess.

>>259821887
I want the story about this.

>>259822042
Yes. Go play through all of them in release order. What didn't you like about them?

>>259822231
I dunno, 2 just felt kind of weird and lacking, compared to the first game, so I dropped it somewhere midway.

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>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1

>>259822383
Well you said 1 was mediocre. And MGS2's gameplay is very much improved from the first game.

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So, will we get to pilot and/or build a Metal Gear in Phantom Pain?

>>259821913
MGS1 is basically just a rehash of MG1&2

>>259822864
100%.
BB is even shown turing a small MG like mech in the red band trailer.

>>259814942
If BB knew the ripple the whole MG storyline would be pretty damn different.

>>259822864
I hope so. I want a Metal Gear battle in a large, open area. And this time it hopefully won't run at 20 fps. At least on PC it won't, and I imagine they would make it so that the console version drops as little frames as possible.

>>259819904
I know all of this, but it's never mentioned or acknowledge until Big Boss' dream/whatever on the hospital and PP overall. It just comes out of the blue and it feels weird, seems like Kojima remembered what Volgin did and thought he could do something with it until MGS V

>>259822745
I dunno, it didn't feel all that much improved. The AI seemed dumber to me, if anything.

>>259817226
There are scenes from FE:A trailers that weren't in the game?

>>259823815
MGS2's AI is pretty damn good. Just patrolling they's obviously stupid so you don't get caught all the time but if you run into a room to hide for instance after getting caught the AI will actively sweep the room you ran into, looking in every place you could be. Also, enemies will run behind cover and call for backup before engaging you.

The coma is certainly a thing Kojima is playing with. Didn't he confirm that BB has only been in one?

>>259824138
The area sweeps in MGS2 were fucking scary.

>ITT people seeking all the answers will have nothing to look forward to when the game actually launches.

have fun with that

>>259825469
We're just speculating. How is the game's story going to be ruined through speculation? There's no way to know if we're right. And that leak is almost certainly fake.

>>259824138
>>259825274
I thought the AI was way ahead of its time for this very reason. Their attack squads/SWAT teams are about as good as they are in GZ. That's saying quite a lot.

>>259821887
It's called a wee-wee, brah.

>>259818315


>babbys first symbolism

>>259825725
Well no one has really advanced AI since around HL2. In the western industry AI has actually gotten dumber.

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I thought BB has the shrapnel already embedded in the hospital part when they're trying to resuscitate him.

IMO the helicopter crash part from GZ is a red herring, and Chico will end up blowing up or doing something stupid which will almost kill Big Boss. Proof?

In one of the early trailers for PP Snake is shown looking outside of the helicopter with part of his face burnt.
The face burning comes from Paz blowing up since his face is clean before that. After Paz blows up the heli starts spinning right away and the supposed crash occurs. But that's a herring, the helicopter will miss them.

Then the mentioned scene with Snake looking outside will be shown. They might land or something and BOOM, Chico fucks himself to pieces. Notice how the jack in his chest was never explained.

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>>259812932
i think its this part where he gets the shrapnel. it honestly does not look like a piece of metal but more like a rock.

>>259825993
FEAR came out a year after HL2. Stalker's AI is also pretty good considering it's more or less open world. Keep your western vs eastern out of these threads.

>>259812932
Why...?

Because he's not actually in a coma for 9 years, he's been drugged and tortured for a few days, it's a ruse

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Daily reminder to pirate

>>259812932

Solid Snake is not Snake/Naked Snake/Big Boss.

>>259826481
>implying the leak is real
>implying we're going to be retards and not buy the game so Konami can not release future MGS games (or games in general) on PC

Well I can't speak for others but I hope too many people don't think like this and fuck over future support.

>>259826481
Screencapping your own troll posts.

>>259825676
>speculating
That is the problem

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>>259826481
It's Konamibro 2.0

>>259827283
Why?

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>>259825725
>>259825993
>AI since around HL2
There's been more advanced AI even before HL2 came out.

>>259825676
>>259827348
Not that anon but I've ruined few games for myself by speculating stuff and ending up being right. Nothing's worse than figuring out a twist before it's revealed.

>>259826481
like I need a reminder. I had no plans to buy it at all.
MGO would've been the only reason why I wouldn't. Guess I don't need to worry about that now.

>>259827737
So are we just not supposed to talk about a game at all? On a video game board?

>>259827737
>>259825469
No, I'll talk about the games I like and speculate with other people who like it and if you don't like it why are you even here.

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>>259825469
The MGSV threads are so convoluted that very few would be right. Even if they were, it would just be opinion.

Even Ground Zeroes gave us wrong info.

>>259817750
Someone shoop an eyepatch on this shit right now

>>259826481
Believing this guy is fucking retarded.

>>259826369
anyone have screenshots of those coo leaks from a few months back

>>259812932
Wouldn't the doctors take off Miller's glasses when they operate him, freeing the host?

Maybe that's why he is in Afghanistan. Finally free from the glasses control, he gets the fuck out of dodge and is eventually captured by the Soviets (he has no knowledge of the world because the glasses have been in control his entire life, meaning he is mentally a child).

>>259812932
I don't know op, i think the shrapnel is already on his head during the hospital scene.

That is in the head of the medic, also known as "what about him" guy. He has the horn and you will play as him. Seriously, think about it. Why would the medic and Big Boss has Kiefer as their voice actor, that can't be just to save money.

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So it's most likely that at one point Kaz and Diamond Dogs will betray Big Boss, and part 2 of the game will be about Big Boss forming Outer Heaven in Southern Africa with Skull Face and building TX-55 Metal Gear

yfw the post-game content is invading other players' custom-built version of Outer Heaven to destroy Metal Gear as Solid Snake

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>>259829646
>yfw the post-game content is invading other players' custom-built version of Outer Heaven to destroy Metal Gear as Solid Snake

Please!

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>>259829646
People think Miller got disgusted by BB and left, however this doesn't make much sense. In the trailer you see Miller smack a kid with his cane, so he is not exactly an angel himself. Miller betraying BB is not that far off of an idea if you listen to the secret PW audio tape and understand exactly what kind of person he is.

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>>259826369
>Looks the same
>Kaz hasn't aged
>XOF still hunting him
>Morpho still alive
>Hasn't lost nearly 9 years of muscle mass
>Bandages clearly from the crash
>Ocelot looks older to ruse him
>Still using iDroid
>Kaz using the remnants of MSF, still

Snake wasn't in a coma for 9 years, he was drugged for 9 weeks and the foreign Doctor got his words mixed up

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>>259812932
>Why is snake wearing bandages after being in a coma for 9 years, all his wound would have closed up for years by then

Look where the bandage is. It's from a bleeding eye socket from an eye he shouldn't have. It's as if he just had that eye removed...

>>259830354
The doctor did make a big preface though. It sounded like he meant 9 nine years.

>>259830338
>People think Miller got disgusted by BB and left
>implying it's not BB who gets disgusted by Miller and leaves

>>259830864
HOLY SHIT

The guy in the hospital must be Venom Snake.

>>259830864
What the fuck, you're right!This shit is weird, isn't it?

>>259830338
He was probably testing him

>>259830913
Because he's a faggot

>>259830864
>It's from a bleeding eye socket from an eye he shouldn't have. It's as if he just had that eye removed...

Could this be? A new theory?
Certainly seems possible

>>259830864

If your eye is off the right of your face then fair enough, but my eye socket isn't on the side of my head

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>>259826369
>>259830354
Are you guy retarded, how the hell does he look the same, look at his atrophied body, he looks like he's escaping from Auschwitz.
I think BB falls in a come twice from GZ to the middle east gameplay footage.

>>259832578
It would certainly fit his defining character trait of falling into a coma every time hes bumped on the head.

>>259832578
>I think BB falls in a come twice from GZ to the middle east gameplay footage.
I don't understand this, show your working

>>259822864
Why is Rex the best mech in gaming?

>>259830864
That's a wound from getting beat up during the escape, he wouldn't have bandages going all around his head.

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>>259826481
>believing that "leak"

>>259832837
>GZ chopper crash
>Coma (no horn, lost an arm)
>Gets mechanical arm and goes on a murderous rampage/builds 1st motherbase
>Get shrapnel to the head (long horn)
>9 "year" coma
>Shrapnel is shortened during the 2nd coma
>Middle east gameplay he's trying to make his wrongs right
>Quickly masters the mechanical arm as he used it before

>>259812932
Shrapnel on the bed, is it implanted into Snakes head to make him go psychotic, track him, amplify PM influence?

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>>259834382
Forgot pic.
Or it could be and implant for Venom Snake. Decoy O.

>>259834748
What the fuck am I supposed to be looking at here

How's Metal Gear Ghost Babel? I never heard anyone talk about it here.

Ishmael says he been watching over BB(?) for 9 years, so why does he have bandages and a hospital gown on? He is also voiced by Keifer Sutherland.

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>>259828416
Kaz I'm already a demon

>>259834901
It is a black piece of metal lying on some medical tissues (can't find the right expression) lying on a bed next to Snake.
It looks like the shrapnel from his head.

>>259835179
Not that anon, but thanks anon, this is pretty great, can you add a cigar in her mouth?

>>259824138
I think they had to do the area sweeping behavior per room "by hand," though.

It's cool, but it isn't really an AI solution.

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>GZ
>Jamais Vu
>Raiden and Snatcher
>best idea ever, outside of putting Gillian Seed in
>literally gunning down bio-snatchers as BB but faster

Fucking hell Kojima, why couldn't you try and make it detective, or put some slashing in, or put GILLIAN FUCKING SEED IN.

Daily reminder that Kojima will never make any sequel to any franchise he has that isn't MGS.

>>259835395
It's Snake's hand you stupid fuck.

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>>259835535
the things I do for love

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>>259827298
>>259833543
>>259828747
>>259826705
>Not believing the leak

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>>259836441
I realize now I should have flipped it to have the horn on the left

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>>259829646
>mfw

Kojima would be the greatest developer of all time

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>>259836170
Rising 2 is basically confirmed.

>>259836441
kek
>>259836616
I though the same but didn't want to bother you with it, it's pretty funny as it is.

>>259836470
>believing "leaks" on 4chan
Not to mention a lot of the stuff he said was wrong, like that the release date would be announced at Gamescom, which has already passed.

>>259836671
I will buy that on release day, and new, which I don't think I have done since MGS3.

But that's Platinum's business, and Kojima's somewhat semi-canon on it, same as PO.

>>259832578


>dat back muscle
>atrophied


kek

>>259812932
GZ would have you believe that Big Boss went to 9 year long coma right after it's ending.
In latest trailer we clearly see that snake, with shalpel in his head, burying his soldiers.
Do you think they would keep soldiers unburied for 9 years just to wait for BB?
I think that BB goes in to coma and somebody takes his place.

>>259836886
>not believing "leaks" on 4chan

>>259836886
He mean't TGS.

He corrected himself and said it was because he was typing so much

>>259836998
MGRR sold well enough for GZ and TPP to come on PC even if it was Platinum, Kojima takes a big percentage.
I myself won't buy any of those games as I'm a dirty pirate, maybe I'll get the collectors edition of TPP though.

>>259837265
This is something I noticed. The timeline makes no sense if we believe there is only one BB.

>>259837827
That new Korra game is also coming to PC, I assume because MGR did pretty well on PC.

>>259837774
Sure he did. If the game is announced at TGS to come out before the end of the year (which is also what he said) then I'll start believing it. I do think a release date will be announced at TGS though.

>>259837827
I don't doubt that it will come out, my dick will shatter space and time the day it get's a reveal, but that's not Kojima doing it.

Kojima is too focused on MGS, it's heart-breaking.
ZoE3 or Snatcher 2, all I ask.

>>259837228
Look at his arms and legs, go watch the footage to see how skinny and weak he is.
>>259837265
He's burring the soldiers killed after Kaz betrays him. And his horn which he got in the Kaz betrayal get shortened after that.

>>259812932
Snake in mgs1 and 2 isn't the same snake in mgs3 and 5.

He's a clone. <-actual spoiler

>>259838250
But Kaz is right there with him.

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>>259838220
Rising is confirmed to be cannon, a sequel is inevitable.
>mfw that poll for Rising 2
>mfw all those pics with Platinum team.
It's coming, and soon. Platinum will work on it, while Kojima will focus on other projects, just like they did with MGRR while he was focused on TPP.
Did you know MGRR was made in under 1 year? It was obviously an experiment to see if PC is a profitable platform now that steam is out.

>>259838256
I think OP means MG1 not MGS1

>Big Boss' alleged body in MGS4 was actually Solidus

>Your face when the reason Big Boss did such a god damn good job staying alive while thought of as comatose is because its already happened to him once before, in MGS5.

>>259825725
I think the room sweeps were actually scripted.

>>259838981
But Anon, MGR was made for consoles in 1 year because Kojipro fucked their version up so much that Kojima trusted another company rather than his own team.

It then got ported to PC, very nicely for a Jap.

Does anyone have the sales figures for consoles and PC sales for MGR?
I mean, considering PSfags are MGS weeaboos and PCfags have a lot of pirates, I will be surprised if PC got more sales.
In any case, as long as PS3 and PC get MGR2, all is well.

>>259839683
No sales figures, but here's some steam charts
http://www.steamcharts.com/app/235460

>>259839683
It did well enough for GZ and TPP to come to PC.
It is also possible that TPP is coming out on PC because of the limitations of the consoles.

>>259839683
All that matters is that it sold well enough for both Konami and Platinum to feel that PC is a viable platform to release their games on.

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>Kaz knew about the attack on MSF
>Skull Face is a new character to the series
>Code Talker is The Boss' father
>Code Talker dies
>New character called Ham, black guy who knows shit about guns and will tell you about them
>None of the guns in TPP are real and are mish-mashes of real ones. /k/ BTFO
>Metal Gear Zeke Confirmed
>BB recruiting Liquid babby Snake confirmed
>Quiet dies half-way in the game
>Quiet is not chico
>Chico dies. Skull Face slits his throat in front of BB
>Skull Face was rescued by the BB and The Boss in the past, that's how they know each other

Can't remember the rest, but this was "Leaked" yesterday. dunno if real or not.


Also it's fucking crazy how much of a rip off Skullface's character is of Goda from GiTS

>People think MGS is multiplat because of good sales and not because of the colossal financial failure of sony and how their future has been up in the air since mid ps3 era or how Xbone is selling like Icecream in Antarctica. this coupled with bloated production costs of games and consoles


Fucking children.

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>the guy in the hospital is Decoy Octopus or someones similar tricked into being BB.
>Ishmael is a hallucination of his old self, he appears as he was after the facial surgery but before he was brainwashed

>>259841195
Code Talker is a native american though, and The Boss wasn't native american

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>>259841195
>>Skull Face was rescued by the BB and The Boss in the past, that's how they know each other
He also knows Paramedic.
Those who don't exist are Paramedics creation.
>Extraterrestrial Environment Special Forces

The Extraterrestrial Environment Special Forces, also known as Black Ninja, was a special forces unit secretly formed by NASA, which envisioned future conflicts in outer space. The members of the group were technologically advanced ninja-like soldiers, outfitted with experimental flex armor and reflex-enhancing drugs. However, the unit was disbanded before it saw action, due to its controversial nature, and was regarded as being too dangerous to exist.
>due to its controversial nature, and was regarded as being too dangerous to exist.
>Those who don't exist.

>>259841808
I think that the sales of MGR had at least something to do with it, yes. It does seem like exclusives are getting more and more rare though, I assume from what you're talking about as well as the payment from Sony/Microsoft not being enough to make up for dev costs, regardless of if they're from inefficiency or whatnot.

>>259839683
>It then got ported to PC, very nicely for a Jap.
Pfffffttttt

The MGR port is bloated as fuck

>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1
>>no horn

Why would a clone also have the original's shrapnel?

>>259842221
Having a large file size doesn't mean it's a bad port. The file size is purely from the use of prerendered cutscenes, in fact they're the same cutscenes used in the PS3 version of the game.

>>259832578
>>259832759
Except for Kojima already said he only ever fell in to one coma. Ever.

>>259812932
>Why is snake wearing bandages after being in a coma for 9 years, all his wound would have closed up for years by then
Because Kojima knows absolutely nothing about science or medicine

>>259842221
>bloated

What

>>259842020
Oh yea.

Leaker guy said that the program was hijacked by XOF or something.

>>259842370
>game creators never consult experts

>>259821887
>I had a 4 inch long piece a few inches from my balls that they decided removing would be dangerous and we let it work it's way out.
It's called a penis

>>259842543
>>game creators never consult experts
Kojima doesn't

Look at MGS4

>>259842996
What exactly in MGS4?

>>259812932
>Snake and Kaz arrive at hospital
>Kaz has aviators on while he's in the fucking emergency room and nobody takes them off

>>259822042

You didn't play that shit when it first came out. You probably weren't even born yet. Hence the mediocrity.

>>259842519
Idk about the leaker, but that is from the MGS wikia.

>>259843419
Kaz is blind.

>>259841195
>Kaz knew about the attack on MSF
His reaction on the chopper is a direct contradiction, congrats.

>None of the guns in TPP are real(...)
We already knew that.

>Metal Gear Zeke Confirmed
We already knew that.

>BB recruiting Liqud babby
We already knew that.

Yadda yadda, fuck off with the leak.

The best thing about Phantom Pain is that Master Miller was my favorite character in the franchise after playing through PW. And he gets horribly fucked over and probably will betray BB like an asshole.

>>259843791
We all know the leak is fake, but it makes some interesting points so I'm guessing why people are bringing it up.

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>>259822067
A shitty homemade grenade some asshole threw on the roof of the shack I was taking a nap in, it threw a piece of tin roof through the brim of my baseball hat, down through a pouch I had on my vest and into my thigh.

>not even in the military, just security


>>259842873
>>259825837
>4 inches
>not sporting a completely average and adequate 8 incher

>>259844024
Nothing wrong with that. But saying stupid shit like Code Talker is Boss' father is fucking retarded. Dude's clearly fucking indian and MGS stated that the last of the Philosophers died at the beginning of the 20th century.

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>>259844127
Yes well, "security" can mean many things.

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>>259844441
How do you know he is Indian? He looks pretty white to me.

>>259845026
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_talker

Educate yourself.

>>259844127
Are you a gun for sale? How does it feel knowing you almost lost your weenus?

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>>259845135
>>259845026
Oh, and for the record. I know you're trolling me, just throwing it out there for those who want to read up.

>>259845026

>Wake up at 7:00 AM
>Light is slightly pouring in through windows
>Reach over to nightstand to check phone
>See this sitting next to your nightstand, staring into the depths of your soul
>Begins to draw in nearer to you

How does this make you feel?

hey i'm thinking of buying GZ. is it worth 30 bucks or should i wait for a sale?

>>259845135
Raiden is Liberian but still white, this means jack shit. Look at his skin, he's obviously white.

>>259845492
Wait for a sale, goddamn.
I got it for ten quid, and although I've sun many hours and the gameplay is phenomanal, I'd wait for a damn sale.

>>259845492
Unless it's $10 don't

>>259845280
I guess I am, I'm a security officer for a shipping company.

I only leave the US on vacation.

>>259845492
Rent it. Unless you plan on finding everything, it's not worth buying.

Hell, I wouldn't say it's worth playing because the silenced/non-lethal approach is so fucking abysmal and neutered that it ruins the entire point of being non-lethal/sneaky.

>>259836170
>Jamais Vu was the perfect opportunity to implement the original MGR sword play
>Kojima wasted this opportunity
>He lost his chance

>>259845492
I'll buy both GZ and TPP to support MG on PC despite never buying a game in my entire life, feels good having a job.
I am a little disappointed they're not coming in a bundle.

Also what are the chances of the MGSV experience having a 3rd installment?

>>259845709
>>259845739
>>259845908
>>259846021
alright thanks guys.

>>259845915
>Jamais Vu was the perfect oppurtunity for detectoring across the base, and figuring out stuff on your own.
>gun down marked green people: the game
>he lost his chance

>>259838981
>mfw that poll for Rising 2
A-anon...dont play with me....Did they do a poll?

No, but seriously, was I doing something wrong with the non-lethal in this game?

It felt like every engagement happened at such a long range that using a pistol with shitty aim was useless. Getting closer wasn't really an option as to get closer you would have to move forward, an option you can't really get away with without neutralizing some guards, which was hard as fuck to do with just your shitty pistol. What was I missing?

>>259812932
anyone have the archive of the thread from yesterday where a ex-konami employee was leaking shit?

was he found out as a liar?

>>259846692
The tranq pistol makes the game(s) easy as fuck though anon. There's essentially no range restriction on it in any of the games and it's a one hit knockout if you hit the head.

>>259846927
>was he found out as a liar?
Yep.

I hope you can make hex-type plants in PP. The fully grown motherbase with segments of joined plants was sexy as fuck.

>>259846927
Yes. He said the release date would be revealed at GDC, but GDC already happened.

>>259848175
>>259848647
fuck

i guess there was no way it was gonna come out q4 2014 if it hadn't been announced by now.

I just really really want it

>>259849024

Release date of une 9th/12th will be announced at TGS, or more likely, GDC next year. Its pretty obvious, it's just how Kojima does stuff.

>>259812932
The man who wakes up in the hospital is Skullface, not Big Boss.
Ocelot is not Ocelot, but really The Boss.
In the final game, that sequence will be Snake and The Boss saving Skullface.

Kindof like how the MGS2 trailers only showed Snake but switched him out with Raiden.

>>259847974
It's really hard to hit the heads, though. I dunno, I'm guessing it was because the 720p had to be upscaled to 1080p and made it less crisp and therefore harder to aim or something? I don't know, I just had lots of trouble with actually hitting the heads.

>>259849329
what about that guardian leak that said march 17 and then quickly got taken down?

How do you think Boss battles are gonna be? It's an open world so Big Boss it's gonna have troubles with those cyborg zombies.

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>>259849743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkgn3QUA2w
Also is that Big Boss in the video? He has an eye patch on his right eye.
I can't stop listening to this angelic song, downloading MGS1 and 2 as we speak, played them a little as a kid, but can't remember much as I didn't speak english at the time.
Wanted to leave them after TPP but what the hell I must play this again.

>>259851087
I want another sniper fight. Also a Metal Gear vs Metal Gear (or the weapon to surpass Metal Gear) battle.

I hope that leak isn't true and you can't just extract and not have to do boss battles.

>>259850696
>>259846692
You know the tranq pistol has significant bullet drop, right?

Plus, you should be good enough at MGS by now to flank enemies and get close.

>>259851087
I believe they'll be ingenious, different and spectacular as it is in MG tradition, theres going to be some trippy ones too like Volgin for example.

>>259851501
>You know the tranq pistol has significant bullet drop, right?
I'm the other guy but did they add this in GZ? Because there's no bullet drop in 2 or 3 when using it that I remember. And I only played GZ long enough to beat the main mission.

>>259845572
>Raiden is Liberian but still white
Hes Liberian-American. One of his parents was American and one was Liberian.

>>259851829
>did they add this in GZ?
Yeah, it's their way of making non-lethal less gamebreaking. You could quite literally snipe enemies from across the map with the tranq pistol in previous games.

>>259851458
The weapon to surpass Metal Gear is obviously the clones or possibly Raiden, as he mentioned he was saved by Big Boss as a child.
But yeah Metal Gear battles/piloting is bound to happen as we see snake ride a small mech in the trailers.
I think we'll starting to have way to many expectations guys...
Kojima promised to raise the bar for gaming again so there's a lot to expect.

>>259851990
So why can't The Bosses mother be white, Codetalker is also more white than red skinned.

>>259851501
I know, but getting close specifically with non-lethal is hard as fuck.

The scenario I was thinking of was with the fence at the beginning of the main mission, where you had to take out the light or the guard manning it, but there was also a patrol walking around the dirt path who would spot you if you tried to get close enough to actually shoot the guard on the light. It was tough as fuck because you couldn't flank either of them, and to actually get close enough to the guard post to shoot him required you to snipe the head of the (possibly multiple) patrolling guard(s), which you couldn't fucking do because of the fence. It was difficult.

>>259852534
You take out the guard on the tower by climbing up the rock ledge to the right of the tower and flanking him. Then you drop down from the ledge into the base, bypassing the fence, and take out the other two guards from behind.

There's so many ways to approach each individual guard in GZ, let alone the actual objectives.

>>259850942

To close to GDC. Why would Kojima miss a chance to be a publicity whore because it was so close to the release of his game?

>>259853415
I didn't know at the time that you could go up that rock ledge, much less without getting caught by the spotlight. Thanks, I should check it out when it comes to Steam and try to replay it.

>>259851174
thats Big Boss. The game is Portable Ops on the PSP

>>259819904
Big Boss never had any innocence, he was a fucking soldier, a VETERAN at that. Stop implying that having his nuts grabbed was in any way traumatic for him!

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>>259819904
>Sexually harassed him, took his innocence from him.
virgin detected

>>259821913
The Tom Clancy stories you're thinking of all fall in the category of Military Science Fiction as do all Metal Gear stories.

>>259853806
PO comes after TPP right? or after PW?
Are the cutscenes done in art like in the video? That would be pretty neat.

>>259853827
kek, he was to innocent to even join the cobras, he looked a boobs at every single chance he would get, Volgin tortured him, made him pee his pants and basically raped him.
I wouldn't be surprised that they'd reveal in TPP that he was actually raped by Voling, he does see him as his biggest fear, hance the burning hospital.

>>259854878
PO comes before Peace Walker but after 3.

>>259854878
PO comes after MGS3, before PW.
Play it if you want, I consider it better than PW, and the bosses are actual bosses and the story isn't half bad.
It's been somewhat semi-canoned, but.

>>259854878
the timeline goes

MGS3
Portable Ops (not considered canon)
Peace Walker
GZ
MGSV TPP
Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
MGS (Play the playstation one, fuck Twin Snakes)
MGS 2
MGS 4

Peace Walker and Portable Ops have the cutscenes done just like the video

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>>259855484
Does Revengeance have anything to do with the timeline or the universe.

I've only ever played 3 so I really know nothing about the MGS world

>>259838981
It's non-canon.

>>259855874
Revengance is after MGS4

>>259855874
I think it's canon. It comes after 4 if it is considered canon.

>>259855225
Because Big Boss was actually a pretty based guy, he was a veteran of korea and he doesn't give a fuck about the gooks he killed back then, he was with the Green Berets that implies he also killed a lot of vietnam fucking shits(even after the death of the boss he goes back to vietnam to kill even more gooks and save eva)he was part of FOX a black ops group of the CIA he probably killed a lot of people in secret operations and even after that he was still happy, making jokes and having a normal life, killing the boss was the thing that actually broke him.

>>259855874
>>259855938
>>259855983
>>259855995
Revengance is Canon and after MGS 4, it was only made canon because KOjima was very satisfied with it.

>>259856383
And the fact Kojima won't be making any games take place after MGS4 anyway.

>>259842018
Code Talker is not confirmed to be anything, what are you talking about?

>>259856037
BB only killed The Joy and Volgin pretty much died in an accident.
My river was empty.

Also The Boss had to die because of Volgin.

>>259856593
He's just going off of his name, which isn't all that stupid, but you're right that nothing is confirmed about him.

>>259856470
Thank god, I'm real tired of Solid Fucking Snake, I feel no feels when he's involved.

>>259843552
No it's not, TPP is an unreleased game.

>>259826481
Leakerbro confirmed fake

MGO will be packaged along MGSV

>>259856037
BB never was in Nam.

>>259857001
Even if Kojima made a post-MGS4 game Solid Snake died shortly after MG4 so he's done.

>>259857001
Shit taste.

>>259857001
enjoy mg and mg2 remakes on the fox engine

>>259857001
>I feel no feels
i wish i could hate you to death

gb2/walking dead

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>>259857338
I want the remake(s) to be from Big Boss' perspective.

>>259857001
I find it funny that despite being called Metal Gear *Solid*, Big Boss stars in more games than Solid Snake does. I think they're about equal if you include MG1 and 2 though.

>>259857338
Never happening unless they remove Colonel Campbell

>>259857487
That would be hilarious.

>>259857145
>In 1961, Jack carried out covert operations alongside Python during the early stages of the Vietnam War, before America officially participated.
And even if that it's not canon I have more

>By late 1964, Jack had been awarded the Army Achievement Ribbon, the Good Conduct Ribbon, Defense Distinguished Service Ribbon, Korean Service Ribbon, a ribbon that resembles the Vietnam Service Ribbon, and the Distinguished Service Cross Ribbon, along with several others. At some point between 1962 and 1964, he joined Major Zero's FOX unit.
>Some time after Big Boss joined the Patriots, he participated in a mission in 1971 to rescue EVA, who was in Hanoi. He successfully found and recruited her into the Patriots.

>>259857338
They're not coming out, Konami halted the project.
>>259857517
I made a thread about it the other day, turns out it is called Solid because it was in 3D and utilized polygons.

>>259857517
SS:
MG
MG2 (both retconned to shit)
MGS
MGS2 (debatable, only a tiny part of the game is played as him)
MGS4

BB:
MGS3
PO (again, debatable, not canon and all)
PW
GZ
TPP

>>259857145
Around this time, Big Boss returned to Vietnam, joined an LRRP (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol)

So are we still trying to push the theory that Kiefer Sutherland Snake isn't actually Big Boss?

>>259857487
I'd rather have MGS3 remake with TPP mechanics. and a more open world except the key locations.

>>259858059
>PO
it's confirmed canon.

>>259856383
The only interviews I've seen have Kojima waving it off as a spin-off, he even expressed how he didn't care what Platinum Games did with the gameplay and story for that very reason. Head canon is not actual canon.

>>259858384
Ebin

>>259858384
Unfortunately you don't decide what is canon.

Who cares? Fucking post a MGSV wallpaper I can use that looks cool. The more detail, the better.

>>259858542
>>259858635
Kojima does. His words.

"It's canon."

>>259858165
He is voicing Venom, it's obvious as fuck.
Hayter said he was laid off by some konami employee, which is so ridiculous, he even announced he won't be BB on April 1st.

>>259858059
I wouldn't consider MGS2 a SS game at all, and I'd probably combine GZ and TPP into one game. The series is basically about Big Boss now, for better or worse, and I'm okay with that. I remember playing MGS1 and really wanting to know more about him. It's interesting to see how "villains" ended up where they are. I hope we get a glimpse of that with Major Zero.

>>259858190
MGS3 still plays pretty well, all things considered. I doubt Kojima really wants to do a remake of any of the games, but MG has to be at the top of that list.

>>259854878
>Are the cutscenes done in art like in the video? That would be pretty neat.
Yeah , they are comic-like , like PW ( they ARE the video you posted)

>>259858994
Kojima said he doesn't want to remake any of them but if he did it would be MGS1 and he would remake it in the same fashion as planet of the apes.

>>259854878
If you like the cutscenes so much you should consider getting "Metal Gear Solid: Digital Graphic Novel"; it's a Graphic Novel of the first two MGS if I'm not mistake; the same guy that did it did those cutscenes

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>>259858059
Realistically
SS;
>MGS1
>MGS2
>MGS4
BB
>MGS3
>PW
>GZ
>TPP

Solid is not even a real human being, he comes from a bottle and all his life is a lie, he's just a tool not a person.

Also Raiden will be in TPP, we'll rescue him as BB.

>>259812932
>Snake in MGS1
>>no horn

Wait. Those two are not the same characters.

>>259859308
you forgot PO

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>>259859179
Haha oh god, I never heard that. Well, here's hoping that never happens.

What we're all really waiting for is the definitive reboot of the series: Metal Gear: Revolver.

>>259859308
>Solid is not even a real human being
Fuck off Hideo.

>>259858698
Kojima effectively de canonized the Portable Ops experienced by stating that "some things are canon, others are not". This means you can't play Portable Ops and think it's what actually happened.

>>259859476
>hoping that never happens
Why? Keep in mind I haven't seen any of the apes films.

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>>259859268
I'll check it online, I think the guy who made them is Yoji Shinkawa, the one who makes the covers and designs the characters, he's a pretty cool guy.

>>259859673
It was more like it's all canon but some things don't match up since he personally didn't write it. You can effectively treat a couple bits of the story as typos which can be said about pretty well every single game regarding the canon.

It is canon.

>>259859308
Solid still comes from a womb. But became a tool to clean up the mess his sweet father and friends made.

>>259827954
They confirmed that the LA team was working on MGO a while ago.

>>259860226
citation needed

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>>259860064
The truth is much more complex anon.

>>259860603
>http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/03/06/metal-gear-solid-5-multiplayer-aims-for-global-appeal-accessibility
>we want the CoD audience

>>259860724
subtle damage control

>>259860929
thanks I just wanted the link, I already knew that :^)

>>259860056
He is a genetically manipulated fetus cloned from BB, his life is a lie, he is seen as weapon only.
He'll NEVER EVER be a real person, his own man.
He's not even a perfect clone for fucks sake.

>>259858165
He's still being voiced by Otsuka in Moonland, so why the fuck would Sutherland's Snake not be BB?

>>259860064
>This theory is right
>No one is talking about it

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>>259860724
it all makes sense

>>259860064
Ishmael has clearly visible skin, lips etc
His horn is clearly visible in the Hospital escape footage.
Is this a bait?

>>259859476
Nice thumbnail shitelord

>>259860064
this is true. will be nice to see the boss in the game.

>>259859905
I don't think the ridiculous Gray Fox super ninja backstory counts as a typo, or Sokolov, or Gene giving Big Boss the funds for Army's Heaven that are never seen again, or Metal Gear RAXA that is never mentioned in Peace Walker even when it should.

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>>259860929
This doesn't explicitly state that what they're working on is MGO. It says: "several core members of our studio in Tokyo that were involved in the development of Metal Gear Online are working hand in hand together with Japan and LA."


The article kind of goes out of it's way not to call it MGO, but a "multiplayer mode". Which was what they just unveiled.


MGO still isn't confirmed

>>259861529
Both of those statements are straight up wrong.

>>259861585
>MGO still isn't confirmed
Actually.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/414394/new-metal-gear-online-in-development-alongside-mgs-5/

>>259861560
yes
it's canon.
>that are never seen again
it spent it in between PO and PW

>>259860064
All of that info was confirmed fake by the leaked himself in order to lake a tripfag look retarded.

Yep. Literally that reason.

>>259861779
That OP truly was a special opertroll. A hero of the black ops.

>>259861757
ah, mkay

>>259861779
Proof?

>>259862137
1 sec, can't post the pic from my phone. Standby.

>>259862543
aw, don't ruin this theory for me, man. It's so solid. It's perfect. It fits so well

>>78016569
>>78016974
how do you cross link? anyway it's on /mgg/ on vg

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>>259861968
>>259862137
>>259862651
This is good, isn't it?

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>>259861776
Oh he spent it huh? Your apologetics are funny. Peace Walker makes a conscious effort to completely ignore Portable Ops's story at every turn for a reason.

>>259863137
Oh, this was a different thread. The one this info came from was from last night

>>259863246
It also tries to ignore MGS3 dude. I'm not an apologist I'm just parroting what Kojima himself said.

>>259863278
Yes. Niles went full aspie and made a collage of everything Leak said yesterday.

Then Leak proceeded to B him the FO

Don't forget that Big Boss and Skull Face have met somewhere before.

>>259863115
Just go to the thread, click "No." next to the left of the post number, copy the URL and paste it anywhere on 4chan and it will cross-link.

>>259863572
Ah, well regardless, it's still a pretty good theory

>>259863717
>>259863717
Like this? If so, cool.

>>259863115
For crossboard linking you need three >.
>>>78016974

>>259832567
Blood can leak out of the side of your eye, anon.

>>259864298
You have to put the name of the board in there, too. I just find it easier to copy the URL from the address bar.

These are the only things confirmed that you should actually listen to.

>Big Boss, Zero, and Skull Face have a backstory
>Chico is a fucking rat
>Ocelot and Big Boss are friends
>Heuy presumably sold out MSF (though he could have legit thought it was an inspection and gets tortured all the same)
>Eli might be Liquid (chances high)
>Kaz gets captured
>Big Boss is in Coma #580240234
>Big Boss begins hallucinating as evident by Burning Man/Volgin and Sky Whales/Moby Dick
>ZEKE is REX
>Quiet gets tortured (probably includes rape)
>Keifer Sutherland is drunk

Guys, unrelated question but how old is Raiden during the events of TPP?

>>259863357
Now you are just making shit up. It tries to ignore MGS3 now? Is that why the story recap in the beginning is ALL MGS3? Is that why when Huey mentions bipedal tanks, Snake's first thought is Granin and not the huge MG RAXA he supposedly destroyed in PO? Or why there are numerous references to events in MGS3 throughout the countless cassette tapes and NOT ONE of MPO?

>>259865037
Old enough to attack BB with a knife.

>>259865325
So, there's a possibility that Eli is Raiden?

>>259820716
>implying The Boss isn't the most influential person in MG

>>259865037
4. Liberian Civil War started in 1989, it's presumed Raiden was born in 1980, as Solidus had him cut off the heads of terrorists when he was 10, one for each age. Which probably took place in 1990, since the war lasted until 1997. 5 is the oldest he can be in 1984, making him born in 1979, if he was 10 in 1989.

Eli(Liquid)/David(Solid) are 12 years old in TPP, and George(Solidus) is 8 (probably looks about 15 or older).

>>259865569
fug

>>259865119
The Boss died yet in PW she was brought back. Gay as fuck.

>>259865427
Eli is definitely Liquid.

>>259852120
>Raiden
>saved by Big Boss

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>>259865427
Yes, BB rescued Raiden as a child. And as we know Raiden was a badass murderous psychopath kid, feared by soldiers and civilians alike.
He'll be probably Liquid though.
"the weapon that'll surpass metal gear"
LS; "In the middle east we don't hunt foxes, we hunt jackals"
The game takes place both in Africa and the middle east, so Eli could be any of the two.

Also Raiden surpasses a Metal Gear by far in all aspects.

>>259812932
This Snake isn't in MGS1 you fucking dildo.

>>259865427
Eli is Liquid, the Japanese characters on his back even say Liquid Man.
>>259866254
The Patriots 'rescued' Raiden after Solidus put him into a relief home.

Also it's clear it's Liquid, considering he has a necklace of Jackal's teeth around his neck and he's actually alluded to him having been in contact and trained with Big Boss before.

>>259865780
Pure deception. Dr. Strangelove was distraught about The Boss's death and created a computer AI that replicated The Boss's mind, that's nowhere close to ignoring, but rather stupidly expanding on MGS3's story.

>>259859824
It's not Yoji.

>>259866254
No he doesn't, Raiden gets squished by Outer Haven (modified Arsenal Gear) in MGS4, taking out a few Gekkos does not equal surpassing Metal Gear.

>>259866254
I was thinking about the "those who don't exist" soldiers and how we can fulton soldiers in the game.

Then it occured to me that they might only appear during sandstorms or bad weather and we can't use the fulton, or they just flat out block the fulton feature on those soldiers.

>>259867915
>I didn't play MGR

Is it true that Hiimdaisy is a SJW now?
Because it's a shame, I liked his Let's destroy Metal Gear comics.