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PEOPLE GOING TO JAIL FOR THIS SHIT
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>>259580269
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>>259580269
that robin guy has some gayass hair
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>>259580269
Don't take shill bait guys
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>>259580269
Who went to jail?
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IGNORE THE SHIRT SHILLS
THIS IS BEING DONE TO DISTRACT US
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>>259580386
What did you think it took to date a dyke like Quinn?
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>>259580583
>15
why would anyone want to "date" let alone touch that hambeast?
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>>259580573
>posting a pastebin on an image
Fuck.
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>>259580718
It takes a maximum of 10 seconds to type in anon.
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If you seriously think Phil Fish and Zoe Quinn are lying con artist then submit a report here.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

No they won't fine you if your suspicions are invalid. Even third party bystandards can file a complaint.
Bottom line, hacking claims were made. Hacking in itself is a federal offense. If Phil is too much of a pussy to report this claim to the feds then lets just do it for him and we can put all this behind us. This is just something to raise awareness so the Federal Bureau would investigate. Phil himself probably posted someone else's SSN. This is clear identity theft.

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.html#C4

If you are unsure how you were affected by this, then state you were slandered and harassed. If you actually donated money or paid Phil or Zoe anything, then put down you lost money. If your video game campaign was taken down because of this falseflaging, then put that down as slander and harassment. If you donated money to those campaigns, then write down how much money you lost.
Lets put an end to this.
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>>259580715
SHE HAS WEIRD HAIR MAN, THAT'S SO ALTERNATIVE AND DIFFERENT LIKE ME
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>>259580269
> Nathan
> Positive press
> an article about 50 greenlighted games from Steam
> months before the affair
> said literally 3 words about it
wow what a bunch of retards
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>>259580269
you already lost guys. let it go.
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>>259581204
Fuck off Zoe, I bet you'd love for us to stop talking about how corrupt gaming journalism is.
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>>259581095
Wow dude you broke down the whole argument, he guys check out Sherlock here. Nothing to see here!

Fucktard fuck off
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>>259581095
He wrote 3 articles on quinn. One was (allegedly) either a week before (according to logs, the possible timeframe starts there) to a week or two after they started fucking.

Do some research dumbass
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Reminder to work on the timeline so we can have a clear history of what happened: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SMLKR0jXRxvaBcug-inONGFR5GCJk9nyqksaLAGdPVw/edit?usp=sharing
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remember people if this hasn't been spread around somewhere. spread it!
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>>259581037
to be fair that's the only hot part.
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>>259581095
>they have no evidence
>why are they still mad
>so ez to debunk
>must b mysoginy keeping them going

Twitter pls go
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>>259581431
> Do some research dumbass
I did.

The first article is the one with the greenlight.
Th second article is the one with him and many indie devs sitting on bed and talking about stuff. NOT JUST ZOE, MANY PEOPLE. The Papers Please dude, the Gone Home dude and many others.
The third article is the one on Kotaku about (again) multiple devs and their failed GAME_JAM. Many websites covered it, like Joysiq, Polygon, Wired and so on.

Here's the second article:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/03/22/gdc-video-oculus-rift-papers-please-gone-home/
Look, he's showing her the butt an doesn't give a shit about her.

And as for the GAME_JAM article, enjoy: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=GAME_JAM
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>>259581869
Yeah and we have proof that shes also having writers for websites that review her game donate to her PAtreon which goes directly to her bank account.

Guess thats all fine and dandy then.
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>>259581204
Good shilling, this actually has the chance to make some people feel defeated.

However, the contrary is true. This fight is only beginning, and we've won all the battles so far. The retaliation has been moronic, particularly from Zoe herself and from Poisson.
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>>259582076
But that's a different issue, doesn't have anything to do Nathan and Zoe having sex.
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>>259582076
> Guess thats all fine and dandy then.
Journalists are not allowed to support developers they like?

Like, they can't participate in kickstarter campaigns of buy games? Because patreon is just an alternative to that.
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>>259580269
Is there a way we can get her game removed from steam since it was greenlit under false pretenses?
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>>259582368
>Journalists are not allowed to support developers they like?
No. It creates a conflict of interest.
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So I went fishing for a week
You need to fucking green text an intro
What the fuck is this shit about?
Read the gdocs it on refers to the incident
And it doesn't explain what it was
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>>259581653
Fuck you John Walker

Worse than Rick Berman
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>>259581708
It isn't hot at all.
I still find it confusing that people cheated on their long term partners for that. Hell it makes me a little sad even.
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>>259581869
What about Arnott being on the judging panel for an award won by Zoe? You're okay with that? What about Patricia Hernandez living with a developer she covers positively in her articles?

There is a standard that these people proclaim to hold themselves to that is NOT being met here. Not by a fucking longshot. THAT is why this whole thing is ongoing. We get to expose them for the hypocritical troglodytes they really are. This isn't just about Zoe anymore.
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I just woke up, Someone please tell me what the fucks been happening in the last 12 hours.
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Some video evidence of zeo in bed with journos and game devs:
https://vine.co/v/hLTrqB1QzAL
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>>259580269
>suspected of faking dox/hack attacks
But it's been proven.
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>>259580339
how are you sure that this is not some shitposter that gets off from this?
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http://talk.hbo.com/t5/Last-Week-Tonight-with-John/Gaming-quot-Journalism-quot-Corruption/m-p/414484

>remidner

> make blogs

>inform people

>don't be silent when corruption take place!
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>>259582521
some shitty indie dev fucked some guys
SJW try to erase controversy from the internet
everyone takes sides and everyone looks like a retard
phil fish might be going to jail :^)
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>>259582368
No, you fucking idiot. You cannot do that. That is demonstrable bias, and if you're going to be a journalist then you're going to have to fucking deal with not being able to show any favouritism.
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>>259582368
>>259582510

At the very least put up a disclaimer saying the guy pays her via her Patreon. Or just avoid him writing about her altogether, shit isn't that hard
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someone post the allies picture, I didn't save it and the last thread 404'd
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>>259580339
that guy is so obviously making shit up
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>>259582651
I'm a professional shill, and I can confirm there are double shitposter unpaid-paid shill mods all over 4chan
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>>259582657
hashtagg zoegate
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>>259582690
but they're not journalist, they're clickbait writers
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>>259582636
eugh
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>>259582839
Well it is how indie games are made.
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>>259581204
>lost
after what happened last night
No Zoe, the fire rises
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>>259582368
No, it's not a good idea for a "journalist" to do that. That's called conflict of interest, and in journalism thats a hideous thing. If you MUST be biased toward something you are reporting on, at least be transparent about it so your readers can know the full story and make up their minds about the integrity of your report for themselves.
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>>259580718

>not using Project Naptha
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>>259582368
>patreon is an alternative to kickstarter

Fuck off.
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>>259582612

The Fine Young Capitalist's IndieGoGo got hacked. Right now they're waiting to see if the servers roll back because whoever did it took the project down. All money is frozen until they get to the bottom of this (which is actually no money seeing as they don't get it until the project is fully funded).

This has resulted in a shit storm.
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>>259582510
>>259582690


Wait, what?

How? Seriously, how the fuck?

If Sessler buys Gone Home from Steam, does it create a conflict of interest?
If some other reviewers gives money to the Dwarf Fortress guy, does it create a conflict of interest?
If someone gives a pledge to some kickstarter idea they like, it's a conflict of interest?

It makes absolutely no sense. Why would it be a conflict of interest if THE WRITER GAVE THE MONEY?

Shouldn't it be the other way around? The dev giving money/sex to the writer in exchange of positive press?
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i like how the powers that be payed a bunch of shills to spout shit about our cause. 5 hours ago you were up in arms /v/

the hackins, the shirt the muh sekrit club faggots, its all done to get us thinking about something else.
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http://www.outlawjournalism.com/2014/08/its-time-we-slay-the-invisible-monster-in-games-journalism/

>make a blog

>don't be silent when corruption take place
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Can someone try to explain to me or post a summary of this whole bullshit with this woman I don't even know?
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>>259583065
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>>259583073
No, the shitstorm calmed down because it's been five fucking hours without any news.
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>>259582368
All we ask for is a disclosure of their relationship. Apparently, that's fucking hard for these shitheads.
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>>259582636

The fire rises.
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>>259580269
Talk to everyone. Don't be silent. Keep calm. Ignore the shirt. Push for the Capitalists to restart the indiegogo, don't let them slack. DO NOT GET DISTRACTED. Dig, find the connections. EVERYONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED. Find the threads. /v/ we can do this. We are strong enough to push back the tide. We can and will win this, not just for Vivian, but for our brothers, our sisters, our kids, our friends. We will not loose gaming to these pricks.
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>>259583146
>Some bitch fucked a guy
>/v/ makes a public mockery of itself once again
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Threadly reminder the indiegogo bullshit is partly videogames and partly splitting egalitarian and SJW feminists into two groups to promote in-fighting. Do not allow yourself to be dragged from our true calling, but keep this in mind and don't fall for detractors telling you the sky is falling in.
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>>259583065
Buying a game and donating money to a developer are 2 different things, shill.
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>>259582563
That's something else, we need to cover on that.

But the proof regarding Grayson is flimsy and require massive leaps of logic; people need to drop it and focus on the other people.
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>>259583192
try harder journo
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>>259583146
Zoe Quinn makes a game called Depression Quest. It's a shitty text adventure. Nobody cares.

Zoe Quinn pretends the internet is harassing her for making a game about depression. Gaming news picks up the story, her game goes through greenlight despite overwhelmingly negative user reviews.

DQ wins an award as the IndieCade Night Games Selection.

Quinn is involved with 2 game jams. Both fail miserably and the reasons why can be traced directly to her.

Quinn starts her own game jam, Rebel Jam. Rebel Jam has no start date, no location, no participants listed. It has a donation link, though. Donating through the donation link on the Rebel Jam site sends money directly to her personal Paypal.

Her ex-boyfriend posts the story of their weird, abusive relationship online. In it, she's shown to be a manipulator, a liar, and a cheater.

More important, though, is who exactly she cheated with. The big names: Her married boss, the IndieCade Night Games Selection Judge, and a Journalist for Kotaku.

All major sites attempt to suppress this story. The entire Gaming Journalism scene tries to shield Zoe Quinn.

Meanwhile, Phil Fish gets hacked(potentially by himself) and quits games FOREVER.

/v/ goes on a side tangent and discovers Zoe Quinn is actually Chelsea Van Vandenburg, a dutch jewess vampire, and a member of one of the most powerfull families in the US (i'm not making this shit up)

At this point i went to bed, and when i woke up, i heard the TFYC's indiegogo-page had been taken down.

Page was hacked, we're waiting for more news.
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>>259583073
no thanks chanology bro, hacking drama is better drama
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>>259583065
If they're giving her money to fund her game they clearly have a vested interest in that game being a success.
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>>259583065
They're invested in the success of that person.

It's not that hard.
They care about the person enough to give their own money so they're very unlikely to pass up an opportunity to support that person and are unlikely to release information which may lead to their failure.
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>>259583065

No, the point being they support something like her patreon, which continously gives money to whoever. They then go and spread it around saying everyone should be doing this, using their "journalistic" pull to get others to do the same.
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Actually thought someone was arrested. Fuck you for the disappointment, OP.
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Had any gaming related media outlet covered the IndieGoGo hacking of TFYC?

I don't think they will, but it shows how they cherrypick what to report on
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>>259583248
>loose

Autist pls.

But I am on it.
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>>259582776
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>>259582636
How do we save Vine clips?
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>>259583295
Why? It's a different way of getting remuneration.
Tarn Addams (Dwarf Fortress guy) is making a living out of donations. The game is free, people who love it donate money to him. It's the same shit.
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>>259583065
If someone donates to a kickstarters they now have an interest in it's success and cannot be trusted to give an unbiased review. That is the price you pay being a journalist. You are held to a very high standard.
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>>259580573
No I am not going to drop this. I am not going to focus everyone on trying to "fix" gaming industry and let a bunch of excitable tumblr kids and reddit cross shitters ruin /v/ and turn us into chanology 2.0 with fucking real life vivian merchandise they ARE going to wear and upload.

This is just a snippet of all the vivian faggots suckling on the cock of TFYC. This is the faggotry that is going to be promoting /v/ and 4chan and pushing into the real world and taken to PAX.
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Is there a thread about how the TFYC being hacked?

This is really disgusting.
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The real question is, why did those people want to fuck an ugly obese feminist ?
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>>259583315
we should start looking for more awards and stuff to implicate indiecade and that weird cockatoo looking fucker
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>>259581095
>>259581869
The whole fucking point is that it exposed close relationships between writers and developers. It's a big fucking deal, this would be a scandal in any other kind of media, not only videogames, stop being obtuse on purpose.
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>>259582886
>Well it is how Western indie games are made.
Fixed.
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>>259583065
A reviewer should get a free copy of a game for review purposes.

Then they take it away after the review is done.

If the reviewer is best friends with the dev or something to that effect, he should tell another reviewer to do the job. Otherwise let the readers know its his friend. And try to be as unbiased as possible.

Not give someone a 10/10 after reviewing the game for an hour then going to lunch with teh dev with all the free swag you got from the publisher.

ITS FUCKING

DIS HONEST
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>>259583487
>twitch chat being evidence of anything
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>>259580269
Please tell me someone is going to jail from all this shit.
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>>259583487
>LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME, i can't take a fucking joke
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>>259583336

But hacking doesn't get results.

Remember what happened with Anita? Attacking these people only makes them stronger.
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>>259583065
If they're putting money on the table to support a dev they're very unlikely to then release or cover information which may lead to their detriment.
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>>259582636
>https://vine.co/v/hLTrqB1QzAL
>This is how indie games are made
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>>259583330
>/v/ goes on a side tangent and discovers Zoe Quinn is actually Chelsea Van Vandenburg, a dutch jewess vampire, and a member of one of the most powerfull families in the US (i'm not making this shit up)
what the fuck
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What happened to the indiegogo? Who shut it down exactly?
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>>259583521
Shes a Jewish vampire or something.
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>>259582368
I think it'd be enough if they were transparent with it and/or avoided reviewing the game or let someone else more unbiased to the review.
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What the fuck is going on with this hack shit? Is anyone claiming responsibility?
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>>259583248
People on /v/ are turning this into "TUMBLR AND REDDIT ARE INFESTING US FUCK OFF" bullshit, and it's doing exactly what Zoe and her supporters want. It's giving gaming journalism an out. We should be relentless.

>>259583280
Bullshit. Girl fucked a guy, suppressed a fuckton of people, pushed a biased narrative to the top of Google and made sure no one else reported on it. Tito from The Escapist openly admitted to bias and writing poor clickbait articles, Phil Fish might be going to jail, Robin Arnott was found to be a judge on an indie game panel which Zoe won, Kuchera from Polygon and others have been found to be funding Zoe through her paypal account, and finally Patricia Hernandez has been outed as living with a developer which she has covered favourably more than once.

This is not nothing.
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>>259583487
>2,983 followers
>email notifications when they go live

That's just Twitch chat.
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>>259583065
No. The conflict of interest is in outright telling people what to do/what you are doing in relation to your journalistic medium.
If a journalist is telling people to go buy a game or donate they're abusing a position of trust.

That may be a hard concept for you because journalists in video games have always been promoters first.
>Whats the highest rating I can get away with without instilling distrust
Rather than
>Whats the rating this game should have
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>>259583651
Look it up on /pol/
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>>259583629
There's a documentary against her on Patreon right now.
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>>259583357
> They're invested in the success of that person.
You do the same thing by buying their games.

It's not like they get a part of the profit she makes from doing video games. They just get the game.
It's like blaming some random journalist for a being a Kojima fanboy and pre-ordering every single MGS game he does.
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>>259583658
http://thefineyoungcapitalists.tumblr.com/post/95626418480/on-the-conspiracy

Hacked. They are trying to get it back.
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>>259583594
Getting a free copy of the game being reviewed can be seen as a form of bribery. That needs to be disclosed as well.
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>>259583065

>Shouldn't it be the other way around

No you fucking idiot, that only results in what we have now: devs buying good press for a shitty product.

You notice how not everything on Newegg or Amazon has 5 eggs/stars? It's because the manufacturers don't buy out the users of the products (the people able to actually review the things). Imaging if that happened with gaming journalism.
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So are people on the case about TFYC being hacked? Were reports submitted for investigation? I would fucking hope people are on the ball about this one considering like 10K of their money is in it.
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>>259583651

I wish I was kidding.
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NIGGA WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS THING
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>>259583710
Yep. I did it. Did 9/11 too.
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>>259583710
/V/ is the one and only responsible. He will be held accountable. He doesn't forgive, at all.
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>>259583729
This is live and I am lurking. This is grade A terminal leukemia and the notion of having people WANT a 4chan shirt cringe worthy in and of itself.
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>>259583487
Faggot should've waited to chat with Matt.
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dis info spread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=126819011
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>>259583602
>>259583602
>>259583602
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>>259580269
>going to jail over video games blogs
top kek
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>>259583594
> Not give someone a 10/10 after reviewing the game for an hour then going to lunch with teh dev with all the free swag you got from the publisher.
But this is not the case here. Nathan did not review any game made by her, unless your idea of review are 3 words in an article about 50 greenlighted games.
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>>259581708
>hot
She looks like a big frog that's died
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO TFYC INDIEGOGO?
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Post Vivian
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>>259580974
Phil isn't american and his server is in Canada you twat.
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>>259583451

Why is Davey Wreden on there?
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>>259583065
>If Sessler buys Gone Home from Steam, does it create a conflict of interest?
Journalists are given review copies for the games.
>If some other reviewers gives money to the Dwarf Fortress guy, does it create a conflict of interest?
Yes.
>If someone gives a pledge to some kickstarter idea they like, it's a conflict of interest?
Yes. You fucking idiot.
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>>259583945
OH GOD OH GOD I'M A FUCKING FAGGOT THAT CAN'T READ THE FUCKING THREAD, HURRDURR HERPDERP
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>>259583945
Got meme'd by /V/
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>>259583818
Stop. You'll only burst a blood vessel.
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>>259582612
Simpsons marathon on FXX has got into the sixth season.
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>>259580339
i need a heads up on the shirt issue
whats the problem about it? had no internet for 2 days and im not really finding something useful.
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>>259583487
>reddit cross shitters

/v/ has already gotten a massive influx of reddit refugees thanks to reddit being in league with the zoe. Considering that you think of it as a "could be" rather than an "is" shows you didn't even notice it.

Also, you weren't around for chanology. Otherwise you'd know that /b/ split from it once people got touchy feely and the touchy feely people left /b/.
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>>259583791
>devs buying good press for a shitty product.
But this is the other way around, press buying products from devs and reviewing them
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>>259580269
Fails to mention that the online threats were invented by Quinn. Completely fictional.
And the people she pinned them on were the fucking experts of depression
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So can anyone confirm that TFYC made weird drunk tweets? I only just woke up (Eurofag here) and missed the whole thing.
Please tell me they weren't that stupid.
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>>259583815
the money never went anywhere, it was set up to be paid when the funding ended. it never left your paypal accounts

whether the donations will still be there when it comes back up is yet to be seen
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>>259582903
Interesting read.
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>>259583868
I know, I caught both of them it went from questions to constantly quoting everything said by TFYC.

Don't worry it's been mentioned before people know 4chan for being shit, they'll look for two weeks and 90% will leave.
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>>259583710

>frequency is 420

spat out coffee. Right it's time to sleep
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>PSN is getting DDoS'd

Could it be....
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>>259583945
Was hacked not sure by who yet. Shills have been trying to throw us off the scent.

Lot of people working together to try and stop us from getting this shit investigated, its fucking bizzare.
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>>259583452
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>>259583451
>CasualFennec

I just wish he drew straight furry porn
But h-he himself is cute too
Oh fuck where is this going
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>>259583945
Got hacked. Should be back up in a bit.
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>>259583752
>>259583816
Just been there, there's nothing about it
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>>259580974
>https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Report the indiegogo hack as well. That will fit the FBI's criteria for investigation. Over $20k lost.

Realize these are timebombs of lulz. We won't know shit till the warrants are served and doors are kicked.
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>>259583927
A boss confirmed there was an article giving it a review by the Nathan dude. I don't remember if it was taken down or not published. Take that as you will. You are not digging deep enough anon
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>>259584153
Well ask them then. We split the job, /pol/ handles the illuminati level-shit
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Daily reminder John Walker is a jaffa that can't have kids.
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>>259583467
If someone who donated to Dorf guy wrote an article about it they should disclose their bias. It's as simple as saying "I personally really like this game and even donated to the creator, so I might be a bit biased" at the start and bam, your reputation is not ruined, everyone takes your article for what it is and no problems arise. Being honest is the best way to go.
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>>259583927
This is bigger than just Zoe and Nathan, this is Zoe and everyone whos helped her get good press and cover for her.

This is about all the journalists that are best buds with devs
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>>259583594

>should get a free game

Haha no.

I think they should buy the games with their own money so they can actually evaluate if it's worth the cost or not.
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>>259583774
You have no idea how reviews work. Do you really think Car And Driver is buying Ford Fiestas?

>car given to magazine
>car is reviewed
>car is taken away

This is exactly how it happens with videogames too
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>>259583280
That's not how you green text, are you new? of course you are, I've backtraced you're IP
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Man I need to get some sleep. Hold the lines.

Remember: Ignore the shills, ignore all distractions focus on corruption. We are winning so far.
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>>259584020
>Journalists are given review copies for the games.
Wait, that's better? Getting a free copy of the game, getting other freebies is okay but the dev BUYING THE GAME himself is bad?
I mean look, whatever pseudo-games Zoe makes, they are released for free. A way to pay for what she did is Patreon.

> supporting a product means you're biased regarding that product
How fucking retarded. Kickstarter and patreon pledgers DON'T GET A FUCKING SHARE OF THE MONEY. They get a game and a t-shirt.
The game can still be shit, can still not be made.

I pledged for Broken Age and Wasteland 2. Am I biased now? No, I know they are shit and I regret doing it. I don't fanboy over shitty games just because I gave them some money, hoping they'll do a good product.
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Nathan Grayson - Robin Arnott Corruption
http://imgur.com/a/bqhRY

Anna Antrophy - Leigh Alexander Corruption http://imgur.com/a/x0NpT
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>>259583451
This is the saddest picture I have ever seen, I hope when this is all over you fucks can go back to reddit/tumblr or whatever shithole you crawled out of.

>He sent a le tweet!
>on our side
>epicccccxxx xd!@!!!!!
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>>259583357
>They're invested in the success of that person.
BUt they care even if they are not giving any money. The money itself isn't your issue. You're looking at something prepheriory and using it as the core of the argument.

>>259583350
How?

If they buy the game they review do they have an interest it in being good?

>>259583594
>Then they take it away after the review is done.
That isn't how it happens in anything.

>>259583637
Why?
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>>259584041
>buying products from devs and reviewing them
Which makes them little different from user review.
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>>259583487
Twitch chat have always, always, ALWAYS been fucking cancer, literally no exceptions.
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>>259582776

This faggot makes me want to castrate the human race.
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>>259584040
I notice and that is why I am sitting here fucking shaking my head because the idea of making a fucking /v/ shirt would be shot down inside of a minute. Now there are so many fucking reddit shits here who fucking LOVE the idea of being part of this epic new meme while we CURE VIDEO GAMES that the idea was pushed through and now people are making vivian shirts left and right. Excite and anticipating wearing them and promoting 4chan openly like it is something to be proud of.

I know /b/ disowned it. I know what happened before and how the fawkes mask are now universal seen as a faggot tattoo. I am begging everyone now to look to the past to see what is obviously going to happen in the near future.
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>>259583773
>iFred
>that fucking terrible shirt
Told you faggots. Remember this shitty fucking board did this.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=126819011

spreading dis-info

share all your information to the sheeples
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>>259583936
Holy fuck how sexually deprived is the game dev industry?
I mean this granade would be begging to give bathroom bjs at any other social group.
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>>259584368
YES. SPREAD IT.
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>>259583761
by a racist and a moron who uses fake smokes.

It will be trops vs men all over again
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>>259584261
what's a jaffa and why he can't have kids?
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>>259583774
You don't know how this works, do you.

>journalist is given the review copy of the game
>they play the game
>they return the game

Not difficult.
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/v/ has finally been taken over by leddit and tumblr.
Good job.
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>>259584359
>>259584285

they get given game
then its taken away after review is done
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>>259584228
>A boss confirmed there was an article giving it a review by the Nathan dude.
No, the boss was talking about the GAME_JAM article. He linked it himself.

Look, I'm not saying people are not biased for Zoe. But I think we should focus our energies on Hernandez and Arnott, those directly helped her. Nathan barely counts in here and attacking him makes it sound like we focus more on the sex scandal than the lack of journalistic integrity.
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>>259584492
Lets get this shit rolling
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>>259583764
Not the same.
Buying a game is an investment in the software, the person is convinced the game is worth the amount paid.
Donating to a patreon is an investment in the person, there is no direct product on offer. Without even being offered a game a reviewer believes the developer should be sustained.
This is clearly a conflict of interest and it should at least be acknowledged by those who write shit about Devs they support.
It's hard to instill trust in a review of actions or products when the writer believes the subject is worth investing in at a base level.
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>>259583357
We let fans of a series review games in that series, we let fans of developers review their games.
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>>259583978
>implying the US about borders
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>>259584359
jesus christ you are really slow eh?
Investing in a project =/= buying the game. In the former they have interest in the game succeding, in the second it's normal consumer-dev interaction.
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>"This is nothing but dead, white male-bashing from a PC thug. It's women like you that keep the rest of us from landing a husband."
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>>259584324
Except the game is never taken away.
Neither can the sex or money.
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Hah, the dude who hacked TFYC is hilarious. Now the game journos are in a tough place. Do they report on this and give someone who is no friend of Burgers and Fries attention and money, or stay silent and catch flack for not reporting the hacking of a company making games thought of by women.
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>>259584432
Neofag doesn't like facts. They'll get mad at us.
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>>259584324
This model does not apply to digital copies of games. Once the review key is given, that's 1 sale you you never make back.
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>>259584418
>NAME A CHARACTER IN DOOM
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>>259584545
>they return the game
But they don't.
Still got my press copy of Little Big Planet.
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>>259584373

Zoe pls go
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>>259584418
>name me a female character in doom
YOU SHOOT THINGS
WHY DOES IT MATTER
THAT'S ALL YOU DO IN THE GAME
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>>259584397
What do you think a review is?

>>259584591
>then its taken away after review is done
THats not how it tends to work.

Their version if given before release is often not the same as the finished product, but the review copy isnt taken away
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>>259583945
It got hacked by the head mod of /V/.
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>>259584418
>uses the 47% female statistic unironically
Stop. There's no way. Some people are just complete, utter retards. He won't budge now. Let it go.
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>>259584545
It's well documented that if you give a game a bad review, you don't get review copies for future games. Or if you do, it's like a day before the game launches so you can't really do a review in time to matter.
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>>259584418
>"Misogyny" should be thrown about without any evidence because women's feelings are more important than a man's livelihood
Fucking hell who is teaching them this shit?
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>>259584669
But kickstarter is not INVESTMENT, you fucking retarded. It's donation, it's patronage. IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

Investment implies you get profits. Kickstarter is not about getting money back, it's about putting money together to get a game off-the-ground.
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>>259583330
>/v/ goes on a side tangent and discovers Zoe Quinn is actually Chelsea Van Vandenburg, a dutch jewess vampire

??? [citation needed]
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You know what's really scary about this whole debacle? That professional sites that hold people's private details and handle online payments can actually be broken into by a bunch of angered forum kids.
This is some Hackers tier shit.
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>>259582636
>>259583452
>>259584126
WebM for posterity. Post it often so others have it.
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>>259584418
I'm pretty sure the cacodemons are female. Not sure that helps the argument though.
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You all need to stop referring to these people as 'journalists' and call them what they are, glorified bloggers.
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>>259584832
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>>259584747
I can't even name a male character in that game
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>>259584418
>Saying Doom is misogynistic
Jesus. Keep arguing with him please, not because you are proving a point but because he is such a complete moron his statements are fucking hilarious.
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>>259584423
shut up shill
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>>259584732
He is suggesting a change you faggot
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>>259584619
>It's hard to instill trust in a review of actions or products when the writer believes the subject is worth investing in at a base level.
But thats how they think anyway.

I know some film reviewers who support the works of directors at a base level because they thoroughly enjoy the things they make, even if not every single movie.

Its the same issue just no patreon account
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>>259584734
>Zoe pls go

Yeah man even though I support this whole thing, but all of you reddit tier faggots and tumblrites need to go back already. This board is taking the piss fast.
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>>259582903
>Go back to playing games.
Isn't that what she's supposed to be doing?
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>>259583818
This is how it works.

SJWs are brainwashed, and im not even kidding. like, there is a fucking post on /tg/archive that explains how you brainwash people, and it fits their modus operandi to a T with bullying people to mental breakdown with PRIVILIGE-yelling and how you cannot get rid of it. and then "recruiting" them by saying "You can join us and then you become a GOOD person free of any privilege". Its a fucking Cult in behaviour.

And i have seen their fucking methods and not only online. How?

Sweden, Yes
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>>259584545
>>259584324
This isn't true, Jeff from Giantbomb on several occasions has talked about still having his review copies of games.

Also, the real issue with bribery in games journalism isn't a $60 game which is nothing. The real issue is the early access to review copies that are held at ransom unless you give the publisher's other games good reviews.

Other than Zoe Quinn fucking some guys for publicity, this is the real issue with games journalism.
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>>259580269

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=494uunKrvLQ

JUSTICEEEEE
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>>259584917
Well, at least Destructoid editors flatly admitted to this, so at least they dodged the responsibility bullet even before it was fired.
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>>259584324
>This is exactly how it happens with videogames too
No it isn't.

Where are you getting this idea?
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>>259584545

>being this ignorant

You do realise that it's a black and white relationship right? You on the white list = you get games for free. Blacklist = you get fuck all.

Jim Sterling even is blacklisted for criticising Konami. This sort of shit is half the reason everyone is pissed about this games 'journalism' shit.
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>>259584732
thus, corruption in the gaming industry

ta daaaaaaaaaaaa
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Guys? What happened to TFYC's ingiegogo?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2

Dead now?
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>>259584712
Catch flack from who? It's not like anyone important cares for this shit. We should try to get someone to cover the hack
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>>259584041

People in the gaming industry that try to pass themselves off as "journalists" typically get all kinds of free crap (remember the Ubisoft tablet incident?) in exchange for positive press.

Plus all the folks that had steam accounts were getting games for free, although I think that stopped recently.

It's all ridiculous.

If they're made to pay for them like everyone else they can correctly evaluate if the product is worth the cost put in.
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>>259584917
This.

I really fucking hope this is the first step of shit 'gaming journalism' falling into Oblivion.

And the only reviews or whatever out there would be from people personally, whether on youtube or what have you.

Seriously, there's multiple reasons why these people can't be taken seriously. They can never write for shit.
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>>259584832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMUb1TDDYQo
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>>259583594
>Then they take it away after the review is done.
But what about digital games?
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>>259585074
Anon if you live in sweden i sincerely apologize and feel extremely sorry for you
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>>259584941
Doomguy
UAC marines
...
The bunny
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>>259584423

You are new. You're that same newfaggot that comes in, starts thinking it's their super-secret-special club, and throws a hissy-fit when they do something that you fear would "shit-up the board". I've seen it on every single board in this rotten place for years. You hold the board to a standard of quality that has never existed ever.

Do you realize how many raids and shit have gone on since this site began, and you think this shit will "kill" the board?
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>>259584623
I'm not against these articles being written.
The authors just need to disclose their investments and relationships if they're going to spew 750 words telling me that whatever they like is really great.

All we ask for is disclosure (and recoursing when it comes to weighted reviews of product)
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>>259585154
>>259585154
SJWs probably reported it and it got taken down, not sure.
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>>259584418
There is no fucking way to appease these people. I seriously hope that AAA companies stop trying to pander to them because there's obviously no way they will be appeased.
>Weak female: DAMSEL IN DISTRESS
>Strong female: MALE POWER FANTASY
>All females: TEENAGE BOY SEX FANTASY
>No females: WOMEN ARE UNDERREPRESENTED
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>>259585015
He never said that.
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>>259585074
Are you talking about this? Based Jontron tweeting this, even though he stepped down he still spread this image to like 200k followers.
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>>259583065
Fuck off you shill.
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>>259584821
>arguing semantics
They donate because they want the game to succeed. If they want the game to succeed they cannot be trusted to be objective about the issue. Either state your personal feelings before making an article about it, or don't talk about it at all.
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http://talk.hbo.com/t5/Last-Week-Tonight-with-John/Gaming-quot-Journalism-quot-Corruption/td-p/414484

REMEMBER ABOUT JOHN OLIVER
HE MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT THIS.

EVEN IF HE DOESN'T MAKE AN ACTUAL VIDEO, A FACEBOOK STATUS AND/OR TWEET IS ENOUGH TO GET THE INFORMATION TO THE OPEN PUBLIC.

MAKE AN ACCOUNT, LIKE THE POSTS AND ANSWER, THEN CONTACT HIM THROUGH FACEBOOK AND/OR TWITTER
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>>259584821
I hate the people who think they are guaranteed a good product if they fund something on Kickstarter.

It's a donation you make hoping the idea succeeds, they can legally take the money and give you nothing in return since it's a donation (At least I think it's legal, since Yogventures (hah) didn't get completely fucked over when they couldn't deliver)
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>>259584359
>Wait, that's better? Getting a free copy of the game, getting other freebies is okay but the dev BUYING THE GAME himself is bad?
That doesn't happen, though. Review copies are returned.
>How fucking retarded. Kickstarter and patreon pledgers DON'T GET A FUCKING SHARE OF THE MONEY
That's the point you fucking idiot. The people pledging are favouring one project over another. Not a problem. UNLESS YOU'RE A FUCKING JOURNALIST.

>I pledged for Broken Age and Wasteland 2. Am I biased now?
No. Because, again, you're not a journalist.
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>>259585154
/V/ strikes again
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>>259585187
Well, every digital game would give the reviewer a permanent copy, so it wouldn't create an unbalanced field.
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Just a note from the "outside" world.

You can tell that this is a bunch of kids/redditors/tumblrfags throwing a shitfit etc.

If this another board, we would've had taken down all "enemy" sites, closed twitters etc.

Atleast we aren't afraid of black hat operations like you pathetic fucks.

You are all being tricked left and right.
/v/ sure has gone full cancer, not even australian shitposters care.
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What about a south park quinnspiracy episode?
Matt and trey make fun of every fucking thing.
Good way for it to reach the masses.
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>>259582521
phil fish self doxxing and self leak many sales document so he can jack up sales price of his company, any canadian should report this incident to their authority.
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>>259585154
It got hacked. There was a message up saying that they were closing it because they don't support /v/ raiding but that has been confirmed fake on their tumblr. The hacker put that there. They're working to get it restored. And remember, they don't get a penny until they reach complete funding so they didn't run off with any money.
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>>259585348
The truth is comedy gold in itself
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>>259585074
>Sweden
Oh my God. Anon, I'm so sorry.
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>>259584418
>47% of gamers are women

no

god no

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

NO

NO
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well, well, well, what have we here another couple of faggot neckbeard shitting up the place with his /b/ faggotry. you picked the wrong time to fuck around, asshole. i've just texted the /V/ head mod (we're friends irl) about this thread, so he'll be here shortly to deal with the matter, and most likely hand out some sorely needed bans. i'm also going to report and sage the thread (for safe measure), as well as alert the other moderators in the 4chan irc channel. and just in case you wanna try and pull a fast one, i'm screen shotting the entire thread for additional proof and e-mailing moot about the matter personally. i'm tired of you stupid fucking dick sniffers pressing out whatever lolrandom faggot shit you want on the fucking /V/ board. it's time for you assholes to get a reality check, because this shit won't fly for much longer. prepare your anus, you 500 pound pile of shit. your days are fucking numbered faggots
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Zoe hacked the indiegogo
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>>259585337
>If this another board, we would've had taken down all "enemy" sites, closed twitters etc.
So why don't you do that fagbait?
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>>259585145
>Jim Sterling even is blacklisted for criticising Konami.
Not anymore, they gave him games again.

And he savaged them, still not back to being blacklisted.

>>259585219
>The authors just need to disclose their investments and relationships
Its not really an investment, but sure.
However, given how unimportant that aspect is I dont think people would even care. I mean they dont hide the paetron stuff
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>>259584821
So giving money to a project with the aim of helping it succeed is demonstrably NOT investment because... why, exactly?
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Hey, you know those guys that were harassing and even threatened a 13 year old boy on twitter?

Has anything happened to them? Last time I checked, making physical threats against anyone is a crime
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>>259584418
SJWs could really benefit from a dictionary. I realize the dictionary is a MAN'S INVENTION, but god damn, what is this even? So many misused words in their arguments. Never mind the number of times they appropriate words, or invent new ones entirely.

Plus, how do they know Doomguy wasn't gender fluid? How CIS of them.
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>>259585409
It's true :^)
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>>259585074
I am so sorry anon. You're always welcome to Fingolia
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>>259585409
This is true with context: You have to look into the kind of games they play, and it will make sense.
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>>259585337
This isn't a raid, dipshit
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>>259583290
the inide gogo shit splits SJW too.
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THE FINE YOUNG CAPITALIST'S INDIEGOGO PAGE IS GONE

I REPEAT, THE INDIEGOGO PAGE IS GONE
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>>259583065
>>259582368
This is journalist integrity 101.

Someone writing an article about something they like (not writing an objective review of it, not writing a piece to show facts, but simply telling people my friend made a game so you should all go buy it) that's not journalism, it's called advertising, and when you pretend advertising is news and pretend advertising is journalism that's when integrity breaks down.

If the NYTimes had a full-page spread about how fucking awesome coca-cola is and it told everyone to go out and buy coca-cola because they're wonderful, charitable souls, and pepsi was saying mean things about them and are jerks, and then when people sent in letters asking about the shady things the company has done and the NYT replies telling them to eat shit and die, there would be a fucking uproar.
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>>259584591

Hey remember the newest sim city, how this was exactly the case and the reviewed product in no way reflected the released product?

Also, why can't they just buy the games? They don't NEED to review every single game out there.

If I was a car journalist you don't think it'd be absurd to expect every single manufacturer to give me a car for a period of time to review it while they drive me to nice places and buy me nice food?
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>>259582368
People like you are the reason shit like this is considered acceptable in modern journalism.
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>>259585290
> If they want the game to succeed they cannot be trusted to be objective about the issue.
Everyone wants games to succeed, even press.
That doesn't mean they're not going to call it out if the game is shit.

Again, I backed several kickstarter projects myself and was heavily disappointing. I bought Minecraft when it was 5 dollars and now I completely hate it and I hate Notch.

Wanting a game to succeed and be a quality product doesn't mean I have a personal stake in it. It means wanting better games.
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>>259585301
>they can legally take the money and give you nothing in return since it's a donation
Not true, they are legally obligated to try and fulfill all backer rewards.

>(At least I think it's legal, since Yogventures (hah) didn't get completely fucked over when they couldn't deliver)
Nobody tried to go after them
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>>259580269
Reminder that we have the support. We can do this.
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>>259584821
>it's about putting money together to get a game off-the-ground
Yeah and that is a conflict of interest, by donating to it you are trying to make said game get off-the-ground, you have a vested interest in that game getting made and succeeding.

Conflict of interest doesn't mean bribes from people you dipshit.
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>>259583678
>>259583330

Come on with this retarded nonsense, You're compromising our message. You're add more fuel to the SJW fire
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>>259584821
If you are a journalist paying into a kickstarter, wouldnt you like to cover it more on your site so it gets off the ground? Maybe becuase the guy who made it is your buddy? Or because you like the game?

CONFLICT
OF
INTEREST
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>>259585246
>>259585321
>>259585395
Where would I go to find more information? I glanced over their website and didn't really see much other than the indiegogo.

And of course they got hacked, because nice things can't possibly happen.
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>>259585425
This is just like hackers, except without the lighting etc....
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>>259585397

Which is why it would be an easy episode for them to make. Instead of a week it would take an hour tops.
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>>259585445
I do have experience in this, yes.
But it is always group behavior that moves this forward.

I'm only one man here.
If this was /sp/, /b/ or /pol/ all journalist sites would be in flames
>>259585528
Yes it is, fuck off shill.
You are being raided atm :^)
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>>259584623
It's fine if a fan reviews a game, as long as it is stated somewhere so that we know he isn't being completely unbiased. I've seen many reviews and articles start out pretty much explaining that they are a big fan of the series/developer, so going further into the review it was blatantly obvious that I was getting a biased opinion, which is fine.

It would actually be better to have both a person who is a fan and a person who doesn't have much of an opinion on the series review each game. That way someone who has never played a game in the series can know what to expect, and fans of the series can know if it holds itself to the previous games quality.
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Why was fish hacking incident news-worthy but no one talked about TFYC hacking? Why is there not a single mention of TFYC on ANY relatively big gaming website? The blackout on this is so fucking weird.
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Can somebody please make a giant comprehensive infographic or document or article on everything that has happened that goes into a ton of detail and is super unbiased?

Combining all the screencaps and other crap that's been gathered since this started?
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>>259581095
>months
>one day qualifies as an entire month because it was the last day of a month that the article went up and the first day of the next that the affair started
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>>259585305
>No. Because, again, you're not a journalist.
That doesnt make any sense. Bias isnt soemthing only in the job.
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>>259585586
Twitch cops were against us.
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>>259585337

Yes, because hacking someone who actively plays the victim, has gotten this far in life by claiming to be a victim, and is dealing with this situation by saying she's a victim, will certainly have an effect.

I'm sure you're one of those retards that started attacking Anita thinking you were doing great justice and gave her the power she needed to destroy everything.
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>>259585457
Because you don't get any returns.
This is the definition of investment:
> In finance, investment is putting money into an asset with the expectation of capital appreciation, dividends, and/or interest earnings.
Donations are not investments.
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>>259583451
Jontron backed out..
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>>259585484
But that kid was being misogynistic, so it's okay.
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>>259581653
>complains about hypocrisy
>is literally a hypocrite
That's pretty meta.
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That's it
SJW's refuse to believe factual evidence
I'm done
(imgur link is the entire facebook conversation between zoe and her ex)
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>>259585581
tangents
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>>259585586
Holy fuck. At first I thought that gay looking guy in the bottom left was wearing a blue hoodie.

That's his actual fucking hair.
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/v/ they are indeed trying to raid you with all these mentions of shirts. They want to demoralise you, DON'T LET THEM. Sincerely /pol/
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>>259585663
Our ocean of piss has been compromised?
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>>259585676
Step up and be amazed by the power of zoe quinns vagina.
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To clarify all this shit posting in the thread.

>Kickstarter
If a journalist invests in a kickerstarter campaign they are supporting a game that they like, and are willing to see made. They do not benefit finanically or personal from this investment.

>funding the developer
This does not create a conflict of interest because you are supporting the developer through financial means for no profit. Unless stated otherwise.

< Having a personal relationship with the dev.

This will create conflict of interest because having a personal relaitonship with the maker of the game, will inevitable give them favouritable reviews because they are friends ( you are not going get you mates game BTFO, because its shit are you?). This is especially true for wives and husbands. Or lets say someone you fucked.

Tl;Dr if they profit from the favorable coverage either through financial means or through a personal relationship then it's a breach journalism ethics.

>e.g Mike browns dad (lol) covering the Ferguson case
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>>259585425
In programming that word has a different meaning.
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>>259585537
We know, '/V/' is stirring things up once again.

We need to investigate this somehow, but everyone is getting sidetracked it seems.
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>>259585676
Because Zoe has fucked at least one major person at every video game site, so she has people on the inside of every site stopping certain articles.
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>>259585805
link the primary source, the blog on which he posted it, with the youtube proof he added
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>>259585805
I told you to stop. If you keep going you'll blow your brains out.
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>>259585682
That'd be fucking huuuuge
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>>259585676
Stop asking questions bad goy.
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>>259585720
epic, she selfdoxxed herself
that's not hacking

if it were hacking
her tumblr, website, steam credentials, email account and twitter would be gone

and it would follow pursuit.
this is more of a fan the flames thing, she never got fucking hacked. she is just playing the victim and no one has made her yet a REAL victim by fucking her shit up and ruining her life.

right now she has dozens of whiteknight that haven't reached the thorn bush yet.

get fucked
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>>259585254

I've been trying so say this for years.

but it goes further ANY women in a game is sexist in these retards eyes.

>Innocent Girl child - lolicon
>Smart Bookish female - OMG girls can be strong too
ETC etc
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>>259585812
Oh shit, you're right. I've seen this image at least a dozen times and didn't fucking realize that.
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>>259585858
This is all reasonable.
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>>259585254
Trying to change an industry from the outside, by shouting and stomping your feet, is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen done.
>weak female
This is my favorite 'injustice'. They are seriously never happy with any female character. If she's pretty, they bitch that she's not ugly; if she's strong, they bitch that she's too masculine and is just a male character with tits; if she's too smart or too dumb, they bitch that she's too unrealistic. You cannot win with these people.
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>>259585024
Only the patreon account is another level.
A level way too far.
Rabid movie fans can review their favourite directors pieces, but good luck finding any credible courier to pick it up.
And if they do the biases ( from my experience) are disclosed at the top of piece.

But in games people are openly donating to Devs and not thinking that maybe they should at least acknowledge that in the articles they write about them.
It's not that the practice is wrong, but that it's not being acknowledged. Leading to dishonest impressions of people and products given to the casual audience who are unaware of the authors involvements and attachments.
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>>259585337
>taken down all "enemy" sites, closed twitters etc.

This is not a raid. This is not a battle. This is a propaganda campaign.
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>>259586054
shill go away
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>>259585831
Only when you count farmville and bejeweled games, then yes you are right.
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>>259581095
David Petraeus and John Edwards lost their careers over shit like this.
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I completely forgot about Erik Kain more or less saying he was waiting for the facts before he reports on this, if he does at all. It seems like the longer he waits, the more facts he has. There's been a media blackout about TFYC because the right people don't like it. That is fact. The Polytron hack was news everywhere, but not the TFYC Indiegogo hack. That is fact.
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>>259585756
Yeah John went beta remove him.
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LISTEN UP FAGGOTS

YOU ARE ALL MISSING AN OPEN GOAL

PATRICIA HERNANDEZ IS A SJW 'JOURNALIST' AT KOTAKU

SHE LIVES WITH ANNA ANTHROPY WHO IS A SJW GAME DEVELOPER - SHE SAID THIS IN A KOTATKU ARTICLE

SHE HAS MADE MANY ARTICLES WRITING ABOUT HER GAMES

REPORT THIS TO THE KOTAKU DUDE WHO HAD TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT NATHAN

REPEAT - THIS IS AN OPEN FUCKING GOAL AND SHOULD BE THE CENTRE OF YOUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW
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Yo /v/ y'all need to stop bein' trolls and read this shit.
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408889339991.jpg
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yuck
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So what's the next step for the whole thing until the IndieGoGo is back up? Keep alerting journalists or what?
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>>259585925
No fuck that anon the only way we lose is if we give up
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/v/ we are being raided. do not bellieve the shills.
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>post a blog

>make news about corruption

>don't be silent when corruption take place

>share information

>be focus
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There's never been such a loud dissent against this topic. There's been shitposters but never actual topics.

shills pls go
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Lets just remember for one second...

Stephen Totilo has a masters in Journalism. Since taking over the site from Brian Crecente, he has become responsible for the blogs decent into a tabloid opinion piece. This has been said for years, yet is outright denied and defended countlessly by Totilo himself whenever something like this comes to light.

It's time you demand that he, and other like him disclose their standard to the public, and hold them accountable for the crap that he and by proxy his writers say.

Remember, this man DOES NOT REVIEW what is posted by his writers because he "trusts their opinions and judgement." He has actually said this. The only time writer content goes under observation is when a shit show begins to take place in the websites comment sections. I imagine the rest of Gawker operates in the same way.

It's time to expose them, /v/. Send the emails, forward the images, find old articles that demonstrate this shit.

Spread the word.
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>>259585831
>Playing bejewled and some other facebook game
>Same as dedicated people on their pc&consoles
ok
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>>259586054
>propaganda campaign
>gets silenced all the time
>says it's ok to get shat on

ok, good job now leave
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>>259585926
But that's what we need.

We need to be able to just spread 1 thing, so every question or doubt people have can be addressed just by giving them that one document.
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> Making a whois on a website is hacking
Ooooook
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>>259585864
zoe doesn't know how to program
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>>259581869
>B-but t-that article is about other p-people too!
Fuck off you shill.
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>>259585805
>extremists refuse evidence and logic
Stop the fucking presses
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>>259585663
Actually you have a point, why haven't we invoked /b/ to go shit up every twitter feed/comment section of every kotaku/polygon article out there yet?
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>>259586054
Nope. The cold war finally heated up.
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>>259586159
>SHE SAID THIS IN A KOTATKU ARTICLE
So she disclosed the connection?

Cant really call deception on that.
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https://vine.co/v/Mxn9QOUXFDw
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>>259586159
This
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>>259585805
>Extremist don't want to believe evidence.
Who would have though?

Spent 3 days enjoying the bullshit, now I'm tired.
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>>259586184
SHE LOOKS LIKE AN ALBINO NIGGER WHAT THE FUCK
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>>259585663
But IT IS /b/ and /pol/, and all journalist and gaming sites are indeed in flames, what the fuck are you talking about? /pol/ is the principal cause of the TFYC thing

Also /b/ only managed to make everything worse by having teenagers call Zoe names and organizing raids that go against our cause.

You are terribly, terribly misinformed
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>>259586194
Yes
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>>259580269
Gawker should be the final villain in this, if just kotaku take down, they can just rebrand a new site with the same people and the same corruption happening all over again.

Also remember every kotaku's blogger, if any of them have a new job related to "journalism" of any kind we should call them out, we shall make kotaku a name they felt so shameful they'll remove it from their resume.
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>read srsgaming
>they support /v/ in this
>fucking srs
>supporting 4chan

Wow
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>>259584418
What the fuck does gamer mean? Do I become qualified to have movie directors pander to mean when I never watch films except a few that everyone goes to see? 47% is a fucking inflation. Just because you play some social games on your phone doesn't make you a gamer.
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>>259586054
True. We were painted as the villains from Day 0, so acting more like villains will only fit the narrative of their propaganda machine more.
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>>259585337
I'm from /m/.

You greatly over-estimate our manpower and abilities/skillset.
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>>259586214
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>>259586148
He was talking to Brad Wardell of Stardock yesterday about it. He's working on something, don't doubt it.
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>>259586184
disgusting

Is that the tail big shot indie game journalists get?
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>>259585449
>they don't hide the patreon stuff
It's unreasonable to expect people to google up reviewers to see if they have any attachment to their subjects.
Most people wouldn't know about these donations, which are crucial to informing the audience on potential biases.

It's critical to expose shit like this
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>>259586159
Toilito comes back from his vacation tomorrow.
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>>259585623
Isn't that what everyone fucking does?

Does RPS have a conflict of interest towards PC games because it's a PC exclusive website?
Does RPGCodex have a conflict of interest towards cRPGs and old-school adventure games? There are developers of games and spoke-persons talking with us on the forums. There is a former mod that develops his own game. There are collective-funds for the kickstarters like POE, Wasteland 2 and D:OS.
RPGCodex makes reviews and previews of every game appearing on kickstarter, even if they backed it. They shat on Blackguards, on Expedition conquistador, on Shadowrun Returns, praised D:OS and will probably shit on Wasteland 2.

There is no conflict of interest in wanting a game you find interesting to BE ACTUALLY GOOD. If it's shit, you should be able to EXPRESS YOUR DISAPPOINTMENT ABOUT IT.
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>>259586319
>in flames
>"ok guys stuff happened but check this clickbait article"
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>>259585676
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>>259580269
>>259580269
>>259580269
>>259580269
>>259580269
Fo' shizzle /v/ check this shit:
http://i.4cdn.org/v/1408889339991.jpg
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>>259586353
Has Totilo seen this image?
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Reminder that manly tears has gone full butthurt and is shitting up all these threads
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>>259586246
Then she cant be what you would call a "hacker".
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>>259586184

Dat noble stone mason body.
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>>259586276
/b/ is a double edged sword, they are a final solution. if we invoke the /b/tards there will be lulz but there will be no change. It will just become a troll fess
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>>259586214
>>259586353
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>>259585269
If you fall for this from people who criticise video games for being sexist you deserve to be manipulated
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>>259585409
But that's hardly any different from what everyone's favorite "not SJW" feminists say! Women are half of gamers and should be half of game developers as well, it's just that companies aren't willing to hire them for leadership roles.
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>>259585269
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/4591379/

http://health.howstuffworks.com/brainwashing.htm may come in handy as well.


And Trivia Time, Zoe got a Slaneesh tattoo.

Or at least Slaneesh like.

What could it mean?
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>>259586276
>why haven't we invoked /b/ to go shit up every twitter feed/comment section of every kotaku/polygon article out there yet?
Because creating that kind of harassment will only be bad for us?
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>>259586184
Honestly, the worst part is her face and the shitty tattoos.
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>>259586214
That picture would be perfect if the Venus figure was coming out of an opening Five Guys burger as opposed to a clam shell.
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>>259584720
>pong needs more female characters
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>>259585581
Then you will be biased against it for going against your expectations and wasting the money you put towards it. If there's money involved it cannot be trusted, that's all, very simple to understand.
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>>259586039
There was just no question of standards at any point. These are people who like video games, they like writing about video games. They play video games in their spare time, and they will donate money to super cool video game people. Why not? That's what video game fans do.

It's just not a professional industry is all. There is no great content on par with the best movies and books to make it worth people who are actually interested in culture coming in and working here. It's all just children's games for children, played by children, reviewed by children. Not that vidya isn't fun but it's not a real 'artistic medium', no matter how many pixel-pumping indie devs stamp their feet and cry.
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>>259586518
>>259586214
>>259586353
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>>259583818
You have to admit though. A screencap isn't definitive proof and can easily be edited to appear as it is.
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>>259586386
thats why there are things call recusing yourself

You reveal your bias and relationships before the article or you give the story to another journalist

its like fucking journalism 10 fucking 1

IM NOT EVEN A FUCKING JOURNALIST AND I KNOW THIS SHIT
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>>259586107
lel made me laugh
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why is the indie game world so full of awful people
how did this even happen
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>>259586621
>>259586504
Fair point, we leave the final solution for the final act.
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>>259585543
But what if NYTimes has an article by a movie reviewer who liked that other films some director made but he thinks the current movie is shit? What if he bought the DVD to Godfather but thought Godfather 3 is shit?

It makes no sense what you're trying to say.
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>>259585543
On the other hand, this is video game journalism. I know everybody is afraid of 'SJWs' of destroying Western culture or whatever, but you're literally talking about journalism for toys
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>>259586336
They be crackin'
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And goddammit! Some people still saying her nudes were hacked.
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>>259586518
What...
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>>259585208
According to John Romero, the bunny's name is Daisy.
There you go, that's a female.
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>>259585183
this is far out. litterally unbelivable.
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>>259586663
>Gamers of the Year
>Anita literally admits to not playing or even liking games
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>>259586627

It's a work in progress. I'll be happy to update it but won't be able until later today. Unless someone else is up to the task. Here's another version.
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>>259584141

Anons really should have better security practices since hacks are seen around here so frequently

Seriously, use a unique & long password and make sure your email address is secure (like two-factor authentication)
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>tfw that cheerful guy running TFYC is basically on borrowed time and will not be able to move in few years
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>>259586634
>. If there's money involved it cannot be trusted
Then you cant trust your own opnion of the game?
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Why don't you make your own video game review site if you don't like it instead of complaining like a whiny ass bitch?

It's because you can't. You don't have the skills to do it.
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>>259586530
well %47 of woman ARE playing games. just shitty puzzle games and online games. Now do you think those are made by woman?
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>>259586452
Yes. He says he'll look into it. It may end in a Nathan, but he's aware.
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>>259586461
>please stop streaming non-gaming content
>never-mind the fact the that we had a music concert on our frontpage for a whole day
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>>259586587
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>>259586697
They're toymakers who want to be film directors and celebrities

It's natural, really
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-sbOH-nEc

Why can't they all just disappear...
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>>259586434
>>259586461
Dear fucking god. So now the people who disagree with this shit are a Manlytears boogeyman?
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>>259586276
Because we are not stupid enough to think name-calling will solve anything. And every single comment section is with us on every single article about this or tangentially related to this, only exception being Kotaku which is heavily moderated and deleted all posts that don't support their ideology (Gawker media lol)
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>>259585858
>>Kickstarter
>If a journalist invests in a kickerstarter campaign they are supporting a game that they like, and are willing to see made. They do not benefit finanically or personal from this investment.
>>funding the developer
>This does not create a conflict of interest because you are supporting the developer through financial means for no profit. Unless stated otherwise.

They are both absolutely conflicts of interest regardless if they gain monetarily from it or not, if you have an invested interest in something it is a conflict of interest to make articles/promote/review it without being clear about their vested interest in it.

They don't have to gain monetarily for it to be conflict of interest.
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>>259580974
Done.
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>>259586359
I don't get it either.
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>>259582903
>trying to he PH fired
Yes, I support this.
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>>259585708
In that instance, it is.

Unless you plan on starting a publication full of opinion pieces and reviews of the games you buy, you're a consumer. Journalists have another code of ethics they need to follow. A consumer pledging for a game they're a fan of is fine. A journalist who may review that game at some point should recuse himself because it creates a conflict of interest.
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why do you guys think /V/ is actually a hacker?
When 4chan was accused of hacking zoey and phil everyone said it was a false flag blah blah. Then the indiegogo page is hacked by someone who says he isnt /V/. Isnt it much more probable that zoey/phil false flagged and later zoey fucked/paid someone to actually hack the 8-letter "12345678" passowrd?
If /V/ actually is third party then LOL this is movie plot level
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>>259585527
Males play call of duty and madden. It's as casual as candy crush. Maybe more.
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>>259586663
>>259586518
>>259586353
>>259586214
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>>259583978
Phil posted an SSN of someone from Chicago.
This is a national crime.
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>>259585969
>no one has made her yet a REAL victim by fucking her shit up and ruining her life
that's the point
we don't want to give her side any legitimacy

also,
>she selfdoxxed herself
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>>259586184
I don't get it. My girlfriend is ten times better looking than this, and I'm an ugly boring unemployed social retard.

Is this really what all the game industry big wigs were pining over? Fucking seriously?
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>>259586587
It means it's purging season, and I got an urgering, for some purgering!
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>>259580269

why do gaming journalists insult gamers as nerds?
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Man, I am loving we're winning for once.
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do you think zoe would go out with me if i bought a ferrari
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LISTEN UP FAGGOTS

YOU ARE ALL MISSING AN OPEN GOAL

PATRICIA HERNANDEZ IS A SJW 'JOURNALIST' AT KOTAKU

SHE LIVES WITH ANNA ANTHROPY WHO IS A SJW GAME DEVELOPER - SHE SAID THIS IN A KOTATKU ARTICLE

SHE HAS MADE MANY ARTICLES WRITING ABOUT HER GAMES

REPORT THIS TO THE KOTAKU DUDE WHO HAD TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT NATHAN

REPEAT THIS IS AN OPEN FUCKING GOAL AND SHOULD BE THE CENTRE OF YOUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW
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>>259584418
>name a female character in Doom
>name any character in Doom
>no names
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http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSGaming/comments/2ef26g/what_all_that_zoe_quinn_stuff_was_about_2nd/

See a part of SRS defending 4chan and agreeing that Zoe Quinn held back women devs
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>>259586091
Shill? I think you misunderstand. This guy >>259586346 gets my point.

A raid, a take-down, will do no good and provide ammunition. The enemy has evolved. We are simply adapting to it.
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>>259586530
If a woman is not better than a man on a job then they shouldn't hire her, that would be unfair for the other people competing for the job and for the workers themseles, as they would be held back by an unexperienced dumbass
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>>259586875
>that bottom paragraph
One would hope you yourself would have that said evidence.
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>>259586461
>'Corrupt game journalists'

how the hell can anyone write that with a straight face
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>>259586827
>you'll never make a game that exploits the weaknesses of women to make you half a million dollars a day

Life is suffering
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>>259586587
let the promethium burn it to a cinder.
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>>259583056
O_O
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>>259581095
>article about 50 Steam Greenlight games
>very first game mentioned is Zoe's
>not just mentioned first, but given an honorable mention as a standout title

Yep, nothing to see here. Move along and pick up that can.
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>>259586806
What, he's dying?
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>>259586719
Video games are a multi BILLION dollar industry for everyone from children to adults.

If you don't want any standards in this industry I fucking don't know what to tell you anymore.
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>>259586897
>In that instance, it is.
Utterly wrong.

The bias is always there, maybe you care about others being affected I dunno, but you're not making any sense.

>. A journalist who may review that game at some point should recuse himself because it creates a conflict of interest.
Thats the opposite of how those things are solved.
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Did TFYC guy ever say on stream if he believes that IGG hack was indeed done by 4chan?
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Dunno if y'all have seen this yet, buuut

http://pollesposts.tumblr.com/post/95586683356/zoe-quinns-message-to-reddit-aka-reddit-mod
http://imgur.com/a/E1X1u

Reddit's mods AND admins are indeed colluding to censor the Five Guys scandal, and it's even at Zoe's personal request.
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>>259586994
>>259586994
>>259586994
This is correct.
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>The Fine Young Capitalist stream

For those of you not tuning in:

Pros:

>Confirms that, yes, /v/ is the one pulling their strings
>Fucking hates SJW
>Acknowledges /v/, Wizardchan, and our allies, Reddit and (good)Tumblr were oppressed
>Is fine with us, and says that we're free to express our freedom of speech. People who think we're "hacker on steroids" shouldn't clump us up as one person
>Acknowledges "privileges" is some bullshit butthurt assholes made up to explain different social areas.
>Openly says, for a fact, "We have done more for any social progress than most people can ever do."*

*This is important

Cons:
>Thinks we should forgive the people in OP's picture (lol no,)
>Thinks we should be "middle grounded."
>Still labels themselves as a feminist when the chat often brought up "this isn't feminism"
>Admits that middle grounded goal is selfish on his own vocation*

*They think they're using us. We shouldn't be okay with ever wanting to meet in the middle. We created Vivian as a free domain as well, which destroy's their campaign. He basically admitted he wants to use us for a greater ulterior motive, and that's not gonna work. It should not

Sidenotes:

>Manly Tears is spreading disinfo with his posse and intentionally tried to sabotage the stream and is viciously shitposting on multiple devices to blur the facts from his own shitty "trolling"
>"/V/" is, apparently, an actual SRS faction trying to make us look bad, Possibly Manlet himself being a retard
>Still labels himself a feminists despite hot having any political traits
>Didn't play Hotline Miami sober because massive casual apparently (Also tried to use this to appeal to the stream, which only casuals do.)
>Went on FAR too long about liberal garbage not related to the topic
>Supports EA as a "necessary evil"

TL;DR Verdict:

You need to make it known that, no, we should NOT meet in the middle. We are getting good publicity, and he gets his dream. That's it.
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LISTEN UP FAGGOTS

YOU ARE ALL MISSING AN OPEN GOAL

PATRICIA HERNANDEZ IS A SJW 'JOURNALIST' AT KOTAKU

SHE LIVES WITH ANNA ANTHROPY WHO IS A SJW GAME DEVELOPER - SHE SAID THIS IN A KOTATKU ARTICLE

SHE HAS MADE MANY ARTICLES WRITING ABOUT HER GAMES

REPORT THIS TO THE KOTAKU DUDE WHO HAD TO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT NATHAN

REPEAT THIS IS AN OPEN FUCKING GOAL AND SHOULD BE THE CENTRE OF YOUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW
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Brief explanation of what's going on :
TFYC got hacked but the campaign'll be back.
It's obviously a false flag but it stated it was Zoe's "side" that made it all specifically against "/V/" so it could be used in our favour
They're streaming right now and basically they said :
>Tumblr is the worst social network...
>Depression is great
>Indie developers have incestuous relationships
>My boss is 4chan
>Games journalists are the town bicycle
>About Zoe, called her "she who shall not be named"
>Called EA evil

And reminder :
>Not a cent can be collected until the campaign is fully funded
>The T-shirt's design's been taken care of already (pic related)
>TFYC actually apparently hate Zoe too and hoped the whole "donate to iFred" would deal with the issue and stop the shit they get, it wasn't a "conspiracy"
>As soon as he heard ifred as a charity gave only 12% to research he said they'd change
>a charity in the name of Robin Williams is totally fine to him
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>>259585395
>>259585640
>sjws bitch about fake hackings from 4chan to their stuff
>sjws turn around and hack a charity
Just why.
and yes i am >implying that it was someone from the sjw side that hacked it
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>>259585858
>>259586012
No. Donating means you are biased in favour of the game succeeding. Stop with your fruitless argument.
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Yahtzee spilled his beans on the Quinn situation in one of his recent Let's Drown Out's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz1FZpWHMgE
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>>259585586
why is notch on the right? I'm just curious, probably missed something

also, remove Giantbomb, having Klepek on there is enough, the rest of the site is fine. sort of. definitely not as bad as the ones on the bottom
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>>259582368
At the very least they should disclose it and be open about it. If you are reviewing stuff made by a friend that you support you have something to prove. In a situation like that you either recuse yourself or you go above and beyond to prove you can be unbiased and professional about the matter.

Instead what they did was do everything, EVERYTHING, they could to lose our trust. They did their best to hide it from everyone, and once caught either tried to shift the blame and downplay it, pretending it didn't mean a thing (even though they were frantically colluding together right there and then trying to apply damage control).

Literally everything they could've done wrong in a situation like this they did.
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>>259586869
This. They got sex from it. That's pretty much gain right there.
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>>259587075
Most people have, but it's good to keep posting it.
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>>259586951
She's leading a cult, anon, logic goes right out the window.
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>>259586897
>A journalist who may review that game at some point should recuse himself because it creates a conflict of interest.
Thats what a judge does, not a journo.

the fuck are you on about?
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>>259586937
>Lets just remember for one second...
>Stephen Totilo has a masters in Journalism. Since taking over the site from Brian Crecente, he has become responsible for the blogs decent into a tabloid opinion piece. This has been said for years, yet is outright denied and defended countlessly by Totilo himself whenever something like this comes to light.
>It's time you demand that he, and other like him disclose their standard to the public, and hold them accountable for the crap that he and by proxy his writers say.
>Remember, this man DOES NOT REVIEW what is posted by his writers because he "trusts their opinions and judgement." He has actually said this. The only time writer content goes under observation is when a shit show begins to take place in the websites comment sections. I imagine the rest of Gawker operates in the same way.
>It's time to expose them, /v/. Send the emails, forward the images, find old articles that demonstrate this shit.
>Spread the word.
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>>259586353
>>259586518
>>259586663
>>259586937
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>>259586756
Why do you think we outsourced it to /pol/?
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PLEASE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THIS >>259582903
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>>259586518
>Arguing with an SJW
>She tells me that my opinion doesn't matter because I'm a cis white male and my privilege literally disqualifies me from the topic
>Feign offense. And go on about being gender fluid
>She actually apologizes to me
I really don't get how these people function. I didn't hate her until she actually apologized.
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>>259585858
So a journalist funding and using their popularity to promote a campaign isn't favouritism? That isn't a conflict of interest? Are you serious?

Journalists are supposed to be fucking impartial. That's part of their job description.
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>>259586621
No it won't.
I have been in many raids, that people seem to despise but shills get fucked.

Back then someone would be a fucking retard on the net and hide behind her whiteknight until everyone would find her email, bank account, house address to spam nonstop for those pizzas, terrorize her parents phone number aswell as hers. Notify her employer of some malignous behaviour that was made up just to make them suspicious. One time a chick got fired because of fake nudes someone sent to her employer. All is fun for her until somoene comes and slaps her shit.

Deleting 10 of her frequent pages she holds would make her give up. Who in their mind would bother waiting several days and spend hours recovering email,twitter,tumblr etc whilst getting flooded nonstop with harassment physical and nonphysical.


never believe the shillposters that try to compromise the situation.

this isnt reddit and will never be.

all the white hatters with their shitty dox and link spam can go fuck themselves as it never worked.

also moralfags go away
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Wow, it's so easy for women to network. Zoe is a piece of gutter trash and she's a big mover and shaker on the indie scene.

No one would ever shower me with success if I made a game on the same level as Zoe's Depression Quest. I guess I'll never know if I don't try though.
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Zoe is paid monthly on Patreon.
There is no product or service in exchange unless you count sex
She gets paid the dollars listed every month, and she isn't obligated to shit.
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Stop bullying Zoe guys, you know damn well you are only doing this because she is a woman.

If wizardchan was harassing a man you wouldn't even care.
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anyone know zoe's date of birth? I think I found something.
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>>259585543
most reviews are carried out by a single person and reflect his own personal feeling towards the game or movie. just like any movie critic. Its an accepted fact that the journalist own personal feelings will come into play when writing an article. othewise all the reviews will be the same.

and advertising is trying to sell you a product based upon only his merits, if you ever read a review by a proper critic they will always give you the pros and cons.

honeslty i would love to live in a world where unfeeling robots count the pixels of the movie and give a calcuated descion on the pixel density and variance in the films and games, but human emotions always come into play

tl;dr: only skynet is truely un-biased
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there is a german popular newspaper that is known for uncovering some shit (for example britain looking through germoneys data) and that is pretty multitopic. they like being hipster and new so they do stupid shit like "the newest popular internet videos" and are pretty close to litterally making short articles about may-mays. If anyone could give me a proper text about actual corruption thing (journalists not being neutral etc.) I could translate it and send it to them
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>>259587075
>>259587075
>>259587093
>>259587093
>>259587101
>>259587101
Pay attention /v/irgins.
These muhfugguhs know what they're doin.
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jsw a broken a part!!!!!

http://www.ign.com/blogs/mrgutsman/2014/08/22/zoe-quinns-sex-scandal-fallout


keep on!

>share information

>make blogs

>make news

>don't be silence when corruption take place!
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https://vine.co/v/Mxn9QOUXFDw
https://vine.co/v/Mp7WhbpYeAn
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>>259587091
>Acknowledges "privileges" is some bullshit butthurt assholes made up to explain different social areas.
Ok I'm not a feminists or whatever and even I understand what privilege is.
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>>259587091
>Still labels themselves as a feminist when the chat often brought up "this isn't feminism"
Before this is over we will convince them they are only egalitarian, even if it kills them
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>>259586452
I fucked up, sorry, that one's fake. I thought you meant the one about Patricia.
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I've been around since day 1 of this shit and I just can't keep up anymore. This whole fucking thing is so huge now it's retarded. Hopefully there'll be actual fallout, the fire has risen.
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Link to their twitch?
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>>259587064
>Video games are a multi BILLION dollar industry for everyone from children to adults.

yes, an industry of toys

Lol, you're worried that people making articles about toys will destroy everything

And people blame SJWs for focusing on First World issues
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>>259580269
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSGaming/comments/2ed9wm/38_min_explanation_from_tfyc_summary_in_text/

SRS is somewhat starting to question zoey. But they still like to pretend it was just her misunderstanding things.

That aside, turns out fucking cupcake is a buddy of SRS. And hates the gaming mods.
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>>259586386
There's a difference between specialization and bias.

If you believe someone is making a cool game and backing them financially, odds are you aren't going to publish the story on how they got arrested for fraud.

Chances also are you may over-emphasize the quality of product due to emotional investment in its success.

Covering the PC exclusively gives rps some investment in the medium, but the medium doesn't have the potential nap benefits and downfalls of an indie green light game.

If rps covers a PC scandal the PC industry doesn't die, and there's no real benefit of overemphasizing the benefits of PC titles given the minimal gains will be overshadowed by the loss of credibility.
Specific games and Devs might have ties, but conflict of interest rarely stretches across a whole industry
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>>259580339
>My job to shill
>Encourage those talking about it
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>>259587256
LOL
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>>259587091
Saved.
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>>259587229
>Journalists are supposed to be fucking impartial.
Not always.
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>>259587053
Something to do with motor skill disorder and it getting worse as the years go by.
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>>259587023
N-no anon, you don't get it, they are intentionally hiring worse candidates just because they're men, they would rather hamper their own profits than take on a GIRL. Making money is only a secondary concern, their primary goal is being mean to women.
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>>259587091
This. We aren't gonna force them to adopt our opinions, we won't adopt theirs.
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>>259587319
What's the point of these?
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>>259586982
insecurity and lack of customer service awareness
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>>259585756
>but deep down jon is truly on our side
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>>259587074
Dude is clueless as much as we are.
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>>259583451
Let us take a second to appreciate our own accomplishments. Hats off to all of you working to improve our safe haven.
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>>259581869

Concerning the Game Jam article, I'm curious. Did you read the WHOLE thing? Like, at the very end how she's quoted? And she starts to shill and push for her own Game Jam? And the VERY same day the article is published, she puts up a site for her own Game Jam with a donation button that goes directly into her personal account?

You don't think that's shady as fuck?
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>>259586654
And we want the industry to be professional to stop all the paid reviews, swag exchange, dev parties with journos, and a long etc. You are the problem for thinking it's alright and not a conflict of interest because "lol videogames".
>It's not a real 'artistic medium'
Calm down with those hot opinions expressed as facts. Of course it's always going to be shit if people have your attitude.
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>>259587256

Anyone and everyone involved in corruption will not be tolerated, whether it be a man or woman.
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>>259587256
We wouldn't have to care, because his co-workers would have thrown him under the bus without giving a shit.
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>>259586530
No one is surprised that women play games. Everyone is surprised that they think social network games entitle them to an opinion and valued input for the larger games industry producing shit for the mainstream audiences that make this shit a multi-billion dollar industry.

If more girls want to get into game design and development or games product then I don't see why they can't go learn programming or get a business degree like anyone else.

Besides, if they are bad leaders and no one accepts them or listens to them as leaders, then why the fuck should they be put in leadership positions?
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>>259587330
>We will convince them they are only egalitarian
You're not human, you're a mammal.
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>>259580269
no but at least it has traction this time
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>>259586869
> invested interest
You do not use the word correctly.

The way you use that word, following the dev on twitter and liking their facebook page is also invested interest.

> They don't have to gain monetarily for it to be conflict of interest.
Their gain is a game, either good or bad. The journalist can either like it or hate it

How many times do we have to state that backing a game or helping some developer doesn't mean you'll be biased for or against the game itself? It just means you pre-ordered a game, without any benefit other the ability to play it.
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>>259587504
>>259587504
>>259587504
>>259587504
Ofcourse we do.
We wouldn't be having this fucking conversation otherwise.
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>>259587286
COME ON /v/ IM TOO FUCKING LAZY
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>/v/ and /pol/ do something actually good and productive
>actually getting recognized as the good and progressive guys that stand for equality and all that shazz
>/v/ starts tearing itself apart

this is too funny to watch
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>mfw everytime the nudes are posted
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>>259586159
Totilo has been informed and acknowledged it. Nothing else to do
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>>259586708
Someone liking the films a director made reviewing another of his films is absolutely fine. No problem there whatsoever.

BUT if a film reviewer is good friends with the director, and even had sex with the director, then obviously the film reviewer has bias thus should not be allowed an official say on said film in a journalistic publication.

This is not difficult.

>>259586719
Journalisms journalism. You're on /v/, a board dedicated to those toys, so they're kind of a big deal around here.
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>>259587319
>>259587484
>April, June, July
We need March, son
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>>259582236
>has coverage of Zoe
>immediately gets into a relationship with her afterwards
>no conflict of interest here

wat
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>>259587528
They look more like poppadoms if you ask me.
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We need to copyright vivian
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>>259587402
>f you believe someone is making a cool game and backing them financially, odds are you aren't going to publish the story on how they got arrested for fraud.
Why?

YOu got scamed too.
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>>259584223
Did they lose the money or was their page just defaced?
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>>259587320
Privileges are earned. His idea that lower and higher classes that are born into them are still connected in a bigger way that can cooperate.

The problem is when he went into the topic of "oppression." He had it down but then he started to insinuate a lot of lower classes people are targeted for not reason, which anybody can tell you is bullshit if they live there
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>>259582903
>>259582903
>>259582903
SPREAD THIS. THIS COULD GET HERNANDEZ FIRED.

FUCK THE SHIRTS, FUCK THE "MUH TUMBLR AND REDDIT INVADING" BULLSHIT. IT'S GETTING US OFF POINT, AND IT'S PLAYING INTO THEIR HANDS.
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>>259587091
We both have benefits to gain from this. What happens after this campaign is each to his own to decide.
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