>yfw you'll never get to play AC2 for the first time

AC3 Is far better than people give it credit for

Do you have some kind of grudge against capitalization?

Why capitalize the acronym only?

AssCreed is dogshit and always has been

>>259569783
>fragmented storyline
>dull characters

though, i praise its new game mechanics

>>259569573
>yfw recent AC games are shit and their story are not connected to the assassin order anymore

Yes they were.

AC went to shit the moment jewbi butchered missions for dlc in ac2 and preorder for 800 limited edition boxes
and AC2 is pretty shitty in the story department with the generic rambo shit, altair had character despite being autist most the time

>>259570190
they were but you don't get the same feeling as you do while playing the first and ezio's trilogy

>>259570358
Isn't the new game all 'back to basics' and shit with old men in robes in secret lairs? Maybe you'll like that one.

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i just bought ac2, never played it before

>>259569573
The party missions where too short, those where the best parts, the whole city felt so alive instead of "I can use those digital pieces of meat as cover"

>>259569573
he wanted to collect feathers because ubisoft even gives NPCs chores to do instead of actual fun gameplay

>>259570449
It's a solid game. It has a nice atmosphere and just the right amount of things to do.

>>259570449
>dat atmosphere
>dat fresh gameplay mechanics (if you haven't played the sequels)
>dat plot twist

>>259569783
>pointless change in which buttons do what
>hardly any parkour, the selling point of the series
>collection elements/side quests lack meaning
>no cool armour unlock missions

It was by far the worst since the first game.

>>259570695
>>259570449
play it

>>259569573

I remember pretty much nothing from AC2 and dont even remember who petruccio is. Might play this game again soon.

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Think that the Templars infiltrated Ubisoft when EA bought Ubisoft stock and tried to aggressively takeover Ubisoft.

Notice how the game went from being about middle eastern space man history to being about Pirates and Europe taking America?

Yup.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/112250/EA_Ubisoft_Takeover_Rumors_Surround_SCiEidos.php

>>259569783
Bull fucking shit. The environment is kinda cool but there are legions of retarded design decisions and the missions are linear as fuck.

Reminder that Ezio's other brother is voiced by Adam Jensen

>>259569573
I hope so too anon. Gameplay looks really promising and going back to the single city has given me a whole lot of hope. Above all else, it'll be nice just to be able to be on rooftops again.

Devs also confirmed that you can upgrade Arno to get a second hidden blade, if anybody was wondering.

>>259570924
petruccio is the youngest of the auditore

>>259569573
>>yfw you'll never get to play AC2 for the first time again

I never played it.

I just played the first Assassin's Creed, it was terrible so I never bothered with the saga.

>>259570695
I found that after playing Brotherhood/Revelations I couldn't play AC2 again, too slow.

>>259571202
Playng AC1 after the later games is a fucking chore. He climbs so fucking slow.

AC2 is atrociously paced. It has good moments but 2/3rds of the way through I was so bored. Enjoyed the assassin tombs - they reminded me a bit of tomb raider in design.

>>259571320
>tfw AC2 had better tombs than Tomb Raider

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>>259571047
>May it never change
>And may it never change us

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>It is a good life we lead, brother

>>259571289
I went back to get 100% in AC1, I ended up missing out on 1 flag and replayed the whole game to get it again.

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You did it, right?

>>259570449
Don't forget to hug Da Vinci, or was that in Brotherhood?

>>259569573
>yfw
Go back to funnyjunk.

AC 4 is better than any other AC games.

>>259571085
upgrade? not earned? second hidden blade was supposed to be earned by becoming a master assassin after ezio became the mentor

>inb4 ac3 and 4
the order collapsed in ac3 so there is no point in earning it and in 4 edward stole the blades (still, i have no idea how duncan got 2 blades in the first place since he wasn't a master assassin)

>>259569573
I think I put about 10 hours into AC2, before I quit. It was just the most boring pile of shit I've ever played, which is an astonishing feat, given the subject matter and supposed freedom it gives you.

At least I played it longer than I played the first AC.

tfw i lived in florence until 2012
playing a game in my own city was an orgasm, even if it was not 100% the same as the real florence

>>259571447
The best

>>259571372
>>259571447
those lines gave me goosebumps

>>259569573
I enjoy the AC series, but 2 felt somehow very different to the rest. it felt it had heart and soul, that the developers really tried their best (and were given enough time) to make an amazing game.

>yfw you'll never get to play AC2 for the first time again
good , i dont want to play that pile of shit ever again

They've all been average to bad. The first established a neat premise and conceptualised a great idea (open world sandbox assassination/stealth) but fumbled with the execution. Creed 2 blew up into a bigger, more expansive and polished game, but almost totally abandoned the ideas of the former in favour of more filler, combat, and narrative. It was a good game, but it failed at capitalising what made the series interesting in the first place.

And every title since has simply regressed those mechanics further and further down the list of priorities. Every game tries some gimmick in the world design, setting, or features and forcibly wraps it around the same awful combat, broken stealth, stat grinding, and dull exploration. Black Flag is a great example: it's the beating heart of an awesome pirating and sailing game shackled by the disabled body of Assassin's Creeed.

Unity will be equally shit. Rogue will be the same. The series needs a break and a creative team able to dedicate a good amount of time to fresh ideas and cohesive overall vision instead of 1000+ people grinding away at micromanaged, isolated systems then stitching them all together and calling it a product.

Soundtrack is about the only consistently good thing throughout the series.

>>259571586
ubisoft went too far from the lore after ezio, that's why

they just added the second blade to the other assassins because they think it makes them badass

>>259569783

Do you mean the:
>hey lets appeal to the american market by making it about the americal revolution
>oh shit it didn't work

I hate that fucking story that I heard about 200 times already by now

>>259571586
Not sure on the specifics. From what I've read, completing missions and finding unlockables will earn you skill points to upgrade different skills. At some point (probably at endgame or near endgame) you unlock all the skills.

Q: Can we use double hidden blade?
A: Yes. We still have Double Assassination and Aerial Double Assassinations!

Q: Is Arno going to be able to free run immediately at the start of the game or will he have to learn everything?
A: Arno is an Assassin, so he can... although; you can gain additional abilities using Synch Points.

Q: How is the fighting system different to the previous installments?
A: We replaced the one-button counter with a parry and added more advanced moves for different types of weapons.

more here: http://assassinscreed.ubi.com/en-US/news/news_detail.aspx?c=tcm%3A152-167041-16&ct=tcm%3A148-76770-32

>>259570449

The combat is so easy, you'll be bored within an hour.

>>259571617
>tfw I visited Florence with a group of friends that year and everyone, without any of us coordinating it, brought a plain white hoodie

>>259572021
>We replaced the one-button counter with a parry and added more advanced moves for different types of weapons.

ever fucking game

don't believe in ubishit's lie

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M sorry, I am suppose to believe that this thread is filled with people who played AC 1&2 but who are not interested in this post right here
>>259571006
Sorry, no. This is fake, there is no one really posting here as far as what I believe is really happening and this thread basically breaks my suspension of disbelief for real life. Congratulations Morpheus, you've convinced me the matrix isn't real.

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> Take a sit and rest...

>>259572225
Q: Will the combat system be different from past AC titles? It was too easy killing 15+ guards with the counter button.
A: That won't be possible anymore since we removed the counter and chain-counter. The guards are also more aggressive!

Look at every gameplay trailer, either they're intentionally being shit or they are consistently getting rekt by guards

>>259569573
>that fucking platforming in the cathedral or whatever

Sorry, platforming is for children. Making it boring at the same time will not help make a good game.

>>259571973
>Black Flag is a great example: it's the beating heart of an awesome pirating and sailing game shackled by the disabled body of Assassin's Creeed.

This, the Assassin mechanics were not meant at all for the game

>>259572225
>"and added more advanced moves"

in other words two-button counter!
thank you ubisoft

>>259571617
>tfw I live in Venice and have lived for some time in Florence
It's one of the reason AC2 is my favorite AC game. I remember after playing it I would go out on the street and imagine how I could climb the buildings.

>>259572440
>dat adrenaline when you try to complete that mission as fast as you can
>dat adrenaline when you're high up and you don't want to fuck up because you'll start at the bottom again

i'm sorry anon

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sup

>>259572820
Is that from the weird dream he has in AC2? I don't know why so many people bitch about that jump.

>>259569783
AC3 had the worst story, characters and atmosphere, yet I still found myself playing it through until I had almost 100% completion and dare I say it, having fun. When I got AC4 I sped through the story campaign giving no fucks about 100% synch because I was bored out of my mind of doing the same fucking shit we've been doing for however many games now. When I got to the credits I turned it off and never played it again.

I'm playing it right now, actually. Just took a break to eat. It's decent, though has a lot of annoying shit that is objectively poor design (not fun, not rewarding, just wastes your time).

I can't use my mouse because the mouse acceleration goes into maximum overdrive (like a dozen spins with a quick flick of the mouse) with anything other than windows drivers, and a mouse is the only way to get the precision necessary to keep Ezio from fucking leaping off of rooftops 50% of jumps requiring an angle within 30 degrees.

Combat is tedious as shit. You can't pit a player against a minimum of four enemies (and often up to ten) when those enemies are capable of the same parrying as you. It takes 20 seconds to kill one fucker. You could try abusing smoke bombs, but most of the time the assassination animation will be retardedly long and you'll only get three kills out of it.

It's also crashed at least 5 times in my getting to sequence ten.

>>259571473
>>259571509
>tfw I didn't hug him

Felt remorse for more than a week.

What happens if you DO hug him, /v/? Please educate the one who missed his chance?

>>259572809
I'm just bitter because I suck at platforming.

>>259572820
I don't understand this. Even if you don't know about walljumping (which is really fucking useful) you can literally just sit on the railing below the post and jump and you'll climb up it.

MAN. when is there gonna be a cowboy AC, I am really getting tired of the 17th century

>>259573035
You just hug him for about 2 seconds and he leaves

>>259572820
>run up the wall at the side
>jump sideways to the bar
That's it. 2 actions chained together and people actually had problems with that. I'd love to see those retards play Mirror's Edge.

>>259573035
replay it again

>>259572965
because in real life you can't pit a person against 4 armed enemies

>>259572965
I always just used a controller to be honest. I could never get to grips with the PC controls.

You're right about the combat though. People forget about AC2's slow as fuck combat. It's why they added those killstreaks in later games.

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>>259569573
>yfw you'll never learn why petruccio wanted to collect feathers
Either it was autism or he did what 90% of all kids do: begin loving one thing for some weird reason.
The game looks better than I remember in your pic, which reminds me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EoOojQkwOw
Fucking ;_; every time, I hope Arno is Ezio-tier good.

>>259573106
play RDR

Revelations has the best start and ending

>>259572965
Oh, and it won't fucking save my options, so I have to enable subtitles and change camera settings every time I start it.

Ubisoft is full retard.

>>259573035
He's happy and smiles and you're best buddies.
You know what happens if you don't, monster.

>>259573106
They can't make another game in the 18th century after this year. It'll either be somewhere totally new like asia or back in time again.
>viking's creed

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>People complaining about some jump supposedly being difficult

>>259573340
I did now I want MORE

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>>259571372
>>259571447
>>259571682
why

>>259573296
I preordered Unity. I really hope its good. It's the same team that made Brotherhood, so it has a good soul behind it they just have to translate it to the game.

>>259573434
>get apple
>100% sync is not using it
WHY

>>259572965
run away
use counters
equip fists and disarm the niggers

>>259573434
That's the point I stopped caring about 100% sync.

>>259573373
i didn't have that problem, i'm sorry you downloaded a bad copy anon

I was so turned off the series after 3. Such a wasted setting. Fucking hate that charisma vacuum Connor. Black Flag was good but not really a AC game. Rouge looks good but ill wait for the PC port later. Unity looks good as well. Wish they spread some of these out though. Wish they drop all the current day shit. Had no problem with how they handled it in Black Flag.


Also when we gonna get a real AC game in Asia? Hell i'll take a china based one in a heartbeat.

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Brotherhood had best waifu- Cristina Vespucci.

AC:B > AC II


Rest in peace, my love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJBsi8DhMU4

>>259572951
this is what you get when you force your game in MURRICA with no reason but to sell

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>>259572965
>using a mouse
What the hell is wrong with you?
And how the shit are you failing at combat? It's piss-easy, just go hidden blade and counter kill everyone.
>tfw hidden blade combat will never be like AC1

>>259571289

Climbing was never supposed to be AC's primary mechanic. Climbing was initially SUPPOSED to be slow and conspicuous and have consequences. NOT climbing was the goal outside of challenges. You were supposed to blend into the crowd and be invisible that way instead.

The mechanic upgrades should have always been about social stealth and ways to blend into the crowd.

>>259572820
>everybody is bitching how hard was that jump
>mfw i don't even remember this jump

Seems like the assassins lost sight of what their shit was.
Looks like they kill templars just for being templars.
meanwhile the templars actually have a master plan.

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>>259573461

>initiate combat with an assassination
>get hit by another enemy before you can draw your sword
>he just keeps hitting you
>god help you if you happen to be on a rooftop when this happens

>kill someone in a mission
>mission completes
>20 guards descend upon you

>attempt to climb away from enemies
>lolrocks
>the timing for them to start throwing rocks is such that you either finish before they start, or get hit just as you are reaching the top

>>259569573

I don't understand the story of the games

every AC past 2 has been "I am an assassin immediatly" instead of learning the skills and trade

I don't understand this, why is the writing like this? It jumps from not being one to being one so fast it's infuriating

>>259573773
what was different except for being able to block?

>>259572951

>AC3
>more fun than pirates

fuck off

>>259569573
After the finshing (dunno why) the first Ass Creed, I have never played another one and never will. I am also, in about 90% of all cases, done with Ubisoft.

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>>259573773
>hidden blade combat will never be like AC1

>>259573520
Me too, though I took the Guillotine CE, couldn't help myself, that statue looks crazy and their other CEs have been great, I have them all except AC1 and BF.
The game seriously looks promising: new parkour mechanics, new and harder combat, more emphasis on stealth, blackbox main assassinations, and I know they could be shitting on us again like with AC3, but they've shown us what's what and it looks good to me.

>>259573875
Being able to attack for starters.
AC1 hidden blade was counter kill only.

Ruined potential general?

AC games could've been GOAT quality if they were closer to Deus Ex in how they approach missions. I feel like the game is basically playing itself sometimes with how linear it is, and how the free running and combat systems do everything for you.

The boats were pretty cool in 4 though I guess.

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>>259573857
>yfw unity is about the assassin order collapsing
>yfw rogue is the real sequel
>yfw after rogue and unity, the game will be called templar's creed

>>259573874

The opposite was 3's problem.

You don't become an assassin until a THIRD of a way through the game. You don't have any blades and then whoops suddenly you're a master who's dual wielding them.

>>259573434
>people had trouble with tank mission
How?

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I didn't know I had so much time logged on Black Flag. Loved just sailing around exploring shit. Was gonna post time played for all of em but for some reason steam doesn't have times for any of the other AC games logged.

>>259573434

i dont remember this

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>>259573704
That was great in ACB, I love that they expanded on it and their relationship and also
>revisiting Venice and meeting her again
>
fuck, man..

Whats the best soundtrack in AC for you guys?

this is my fave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EaRHlo4B0Y

>>259573570
>run away
>pick up more guards every five seconds

>use counters
>enemy parries your counter

>fists
Actually feasible, though you'll probably get hit by someone else while trying to drop the weapon you're holding from the disarm

>>259569783
No. I give it TOO much credit, and that's not saying much because the only two decent things were boats and when you played as the father who was an actually decent character.

The boats weren't even that good. We just lacked a pirate game and that gave us our fill, even if it was shit.

>>259573874
>every AC past 2 has been "I am an assassin immediatly" instead of learning the skills and trade

Couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
3 has seriously lengthy exposition of Connor being trained and in 4 Edward is already a swashbuckling pirate who don't need no assassins.

>>259573857

Which is why the assassins are losing.

They turned into a weird cult who couldn't even keep their own damn children from converting, and refused to work with actual research instead of just straight stabbing.

Ezio, for all his problems, actually funded non-assassin projects.

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>>259573634
>tfw

i have done ac1 as well and black flag except for multiplayer

>>259573874
because, the original writers left and they hired some nerd that graduated from harvard

>>259574070

What happened to steady progression?

>>259573882
I wouldn't really say it was more fun so much as just that the whole thing had finally gotten too stale for me to still enjoy it. If AC4 came out before AC3 I probably would have played it for many more hours and stopped playing halfway through 3.

>>259573106
yes we need more murrica pandering

AC has always been on a decline.

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>>259569783
"WHERE CHARLES LEE!"
"But son here's why we're not actually the bad guys and we're both working towards the same goal in diff-"
"FATHER YOU ARE EVIL I WILL KILL YOU NOW!"

I miss Jesper Kyd.

It's not been the same since they got all these hollywood composers in. I liked that electronic bent all the music had in the first 3 games.
The only good thing about the first game was pulling off an assassination, then everything going to shit with people panicking in the streets as all the bells started ringing and this music started playing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH1NFziHUxg

>>259574214
Shit, anon, are you... alright ?

>>259573875
AC1 hidden blade in combat was only countering, no blocking or attacking. The counter-window was also insane compared to other weapons.

>>259573976
I'd love for it to return, killing off 4-5 guards just using HB counters is orgasmic, but of course Ubisoft would rather have it be another sword-weapon-type thing.

>>259569573
>yfw you'll never get to play AC2 for the first time again
;_;

>>259574205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH1NFziHUxg

Because it's such a change in tone from the rest of the soundtrack.
No other alert/combat music is even close to the level of 'shit just got real' this bring.

> All of these unexpected AC feels

>>259574240

It went out the window.

You now begin the game with dual swords and then you get a gun with instant aiming and then get dual hidden blades and smoke bombs for free.

You know the newfag on /v/ has reached critical levels when retards are waxing nostalgic over a by the numbers, open world, press x to win moviegame from 4 years ago.

>>259574367
meant for
>>259574161

>>259574463
People liked AC2 because it was actually a game and not a shitty tech demo. Don't pretend you were there.

>>259574313
So good. Really felt like it was go time and that the animus was about to break down because you were close to fucking up.

>>259574214
Have you 100% just cause 2 as well?

>>259574316
I'll be honest man, the 100% sync missions are a piece of cake! as are any collectables after ac2. feathers are bad but the flags in the original are another fucking monster entirely

>>259571372
>>259571695
>>259573493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EoOojQkwOw
Every time

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>>259574019
>You'll never play an AC where multiple enemies attack together to make it virtually impossible to fend off more than one at a time, actually making stealth and running necessary

>tfw the world designers from the early AC games will never get to work on a game with actual good mechanics

AC gameplay is trash, but I still suffered through 4 games just because the worlds are so nice.

>>259573434
>mfw I 100% this mission

felt really, really good

>>259574367

Or the tone, the one thing AC1 had was a good relationship between Altair and Al Mualim.

That is to say, everyone thought Altair was a retarded piece of human shit and didn't mince words.

Unity looks like it's at least trying to recapture that.

Why the assassins in Black Flag didn't try to go after Edward is beyond me.

AC2/B OST is still the best in the series, fucking Kyd and his magic fingers.

will Desmond be back bros?

I love Black Flag as a pirate game. All the Templar/Assassin shit felt so forced. Edward doesn't even giving a fuck about the Assassins until the final act.

>>259574214
I might be retarded but what website is that? Is that Uplay?

>>259573296
Damn, I love that intro scene. I now have the sudden urge to go back and play AC2.

Bracing for Haytham in Rogue. At least they realised that he was the only redeeming feature of 3.

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>>259574161
It's tough, all the AC games have seriously well-made OSTs, but I guess it would be a toss-up between:
Ezio's family: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yCyysCmhlQ
ACR Main Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLgQ3em2JYY
And when it comes to chase-high-intense-music, it's definitely AC3 Trouble in Town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2P8L_5zKko
But that's just off the top of my head, probably a lot of other good ones I can't remember.

>>259574587
AC unity has half of the original devs working on it and it has support from 20 different studios so may be this won't flop. unity will either be the downfall of ubisoft or a birth of a new fresh AC

>>259574725

That's what made it funny though.

> I die, but I die for my beliefs and I!

>Sorry mate, don't care.

>WTF dude.

>Yeah, I'm just here to steal your shit. Save your conspiracy shit for whoever cares.

>>259574303
>Get to the point where the father is strangling connor
>Think surely since it's so easy something will happen if I don't do it
>Sit there waiting ages
>Very clear ubishit just thought everyone would blindly press the button
>Last bit of health goes away
>simply die with no special anything and go right back to the start of the strangling
They really don't put any effort into this shit.

they could've at least added in something when you die there.

>>259574742
Just some random Xbox gamer tag website. I was trying to get it so I could just show assassins creed titles but it wouldn't let me

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>>259573434
There were 2 chase missions in ac3 and to 100% them was 10 times harder than that fucking tank bullshit.

>>259574214
>tfw got 100% in all of them as well
AC1 flags were a cunt. I don't have all MP achivements, but MP achievements are shitstains in vidya anyway.

>>259574559
I was and it was passable in atmosphere only. Good music and graphics with zero gameplay to back any of it up. Perfect for the new generation of gamers who want bombastic Hollywood movies instead of nuanced gameplay.

>>259574910
WHERE IS CHARLES LEE

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>>259573035
>cutscene goes on
>take a swig of water because its a break
>"hug?"
>drop glass, scurrying for the controller
>"oh.. ok.."
I wanted to cry

>all these weaboo faggots wanting an asian assassins creed
>nobody wants one in Detroit riots
fucking disgusting

>>259574072
It took something like 10 minutes to reach the tank and if you took a single hit you literally had to start again from the fucking beginning to get the 100% synch. It was the definition of artificial difficulty.

>>259574910
Charles lee was easy to glitch, the hard one was at the execution trying to stop washingtons fuckwit guards from getting killed

>>259574967
getting a hipster haircut like you have, connor

>>259574303
SIDES WARNING
If you care for your sides, do not open: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFlq2SerGQ

>>259574910
>Objective: Charles Lee

>>259574967
Right in front of you in that mission, are you blind?

>>259574994

ah, you assassin? we hate temprar too, WHERE IS CHARLES REE??

>>259574946
Not every game has be Dark Souls. Sometimes junkfood games are fine, just don't live off them.

>Do assassination contract in venice
>Row a gondola after another gondolier for five minutes
>Arrive at a boat
>swing around behind it, kill the guy on board
>mission completes
>as I kill the guard that was with him, a clone of the guy spawns and is frightened by his own corpse

>race in romagna
>after winning, grill pushes ezio over and fucks him on the spot, right on the side of a major road

>>259574463
>>259574946
>not a fan of the games
>FUCK ME IT'S NEWFAG IN HERE

m8 I don't like Timesplitters but you don't see me jawing about

>>259574910
Tank poster here, I raged really fucking hard with this chase. God damn.

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>>259571473
I thought it was a cutscene, I didnt know......

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>>259574391
I'm seriously hoping Unity gives me a ride like AC2, even if I end up a mess for a few days like with AC2.

>>259575081
You hyped that up to be something much funnier than it was

>>259573035
He gets turned on hes gay. You find out in Brotherhood

>>259574585
Now bear with me here.
But AC needs to take some notes from the Arkham games in it's approach to combat.
Now they both function very similarly.
Combat is 1vMany, you either start with a quick combo or a counter then move onto slaughtering the group from there.

Now in BAHAM, as you get more and more aggressive and rack up a higher combo the enemies get more and more aggressive themselves, combined with the fact that batman doesn't have that many moves that can instantly take down an opponent means that the player can't fall into a rythem of press X to win.

Now in AC, once you start that kill chain, that's it, you've won.
Aside from 2 enemy types, who are relatively rare, you can kill everything with a kill chain, and as a kill animation makes you invincible there is no risk to taking down an enemy.
Combined with the staggering amount of instantly lethal tools the protag has, combat is lifeless, there is no push and tug, no timing or zoning.
Just hammer X to kill everything and if interrupted by those 2 enemy types just shoot them in the face for an instant kill.

>>259575081
If you look at Connor as an autistic his behaviour makes much more sense.

>>259575267
don't count on it. Black Flag was the "A" game. Unity is just going to be the garbage that gets dumped on us in the odd year between 'quality' releases.

>>259575121
>not carrers ree

>>259574994
I'm still furious that unity wasnt set in london with a young Haytham, fuck he was a great character.

I like that some anons on /v/ enjoy the series, I do realise its pitfalls but at the end of the day they're games for us to enjoy

>>259575267

AC2 was kinda mediocre.

Black Flag's ending was great.

>Song kicks up
>Edward takes his last drink
>Looks over to an empty table
>Sees his dead friends.

>>259574820
>AC unity has half of the original devs
I didn't know that, that sounds fantastic.

Anyone else find the two "chase the fleeing templar" catacomb sequences fucking insulting? Ezio is supposed to be the fastest motherfucker and these chucklefucks are around, they start running from you in a cutscene, THE GAME DISABLES THROWING KNIVES FOR THE SEQUENCE, and the fuckers will actually sit at wait for you at the gates if you fall behind.

>>259569783
I never even finished it.

I was slightly excited to finally play as Desmond properly. And it was boring. Connor was boring. The homestead shit I was hoping would be pretty neat. It was boring. Side quest shit was so obviously fucking rushed, you would just walk up to someone, and 90% of the time there'd be no lines or anything. Just a mission popping up telling you to kill some niggers. You'd go kill them and it'd just pop up with some money you'd earned or whatever. Sometimes you'd deliver letters to completely identical people who literally spouted the same fucking line every time. Total ass.

The boat stuff was pretty neat and so was liberating areas to level up assassins and shit.

Supposedly Black Flag was good. I never played it though, because halfway through AC3 I fucking gave up on the series.

>>259574946
Are you by any chance wearing a fedora as you are shitting this thread up?

>>259575432
I always felt that Ezio was just following him back to the Templar outpost.

>>259575453
>Connor was boring.
I disagree. It was silly, charles lee, and not assassin like at all. But I do not think it was boring. Doing fucking wrestling moves on unsuspecting guards was fucking hilarious.

>>259575304
The part where Connor hunches over that keg gets me every time, it's like he's looking for Lee under a table or something.

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>>259575518
Your taste is in your ass

What good timing.

I finally gave in to years of my friend's urging that this series was good. I acquired AC1 for the PC and cranked the settings up. I wanted to skip it altogether, as I tried back in the day to play it and got bored. But he assures me it will make me value AC2 that much more.

Overall? Not too bad. I love the setting, and the cities feel lush with detail. The story is intriguing. The combat can suck a dick. And the climbing ranges from enjoyably fluid to suck my asshole annoying.

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>In a world without gold, we might have been heroes!

;_;

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>>259575149
>race in romagna
>after winning, grill pushes ezio over and fucks him on the spot, right on the side of a major road
http://youtu.be/3HxQ9ocIQ7A?t=3m47s
muh dick

>>259575621
I watched it again with this in mind and it was at least 10 times funnier.

WHERE ARE YOU CHARLES?

>>259575616
The fact that they ported some of Connors attacks to Edward caused me analpain.
Connor is fucking enormous and goddamn dwarfs the ordinary guards, it makes sense that he can easily life them from the ground during some of his kill animations.
But Edward is an averaged sized dude, and he can heft the frankly giant brutes off off the ground.

>>259575341
Arkham combat is AC3-tier easy, Unity combat actually looks like it's proper combat and not X to win.

>>259575731
The combat and climbing never get better and the settings and story deteriorate. I loved the AC1 setting and atmosphere. It's all shit now.

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>>259575401
Let's hope ACU is alright.

>>259575731
AC1 is actually my favourite, but all the complaints people have about it are valid.

AC2 improves in a number of areas. But I feel like it steps down a bit in terms of the story and characters. Ezio is a much more interesting character than Altair though.

>>259575897

Arkham combat is even easier. Even without upgrades you can blow through a dozen armed people just by running up to them and you have even more gadgets than any assassin ever did.

Not to mention the parachute having limited uses while the bat cape was infinite.

>>259576003
It won't be.
Maybe.

>>259575418
and that's where all the writing effort went to

Don't know if this was posted yet, GOAT soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0i6YFrSs6c

>>259576032

AC1 was never about Altair though. The player is supposed to immediately hate him for murdering an innocent and getting his own allies killed. You're supposed to agree with everyone calling him a fuckwit.

>>259575731
Here's what's more or less agreed on:
AC2 = ACB > AC1 > BF > R > 3
So it'll get better and then drop down.

>>259569573
The only good AC was the first one and only because it had potential to be a good franchise and because it had grounbreaking fluid movement mehcanics for the time. Though Black Flag could've been good as a pirate game if it had more variety and more in-depth gameplay mechanics.

>>259575731
AC1 is shit for 99% of the game. There are a few brilliant moments, but most of it is busywork and trudging back and forth. And the less said about the last sequence the better

>>259575731
AC1 has some really unique cities which is very cool. You'll find the further you get into the series the less unique places get but that won't happen til Rev/AC3.

>>259575897
>Unity combat actually looks like it's proper combat and not X to win

I doubt this very much, but will look it up now to see if it's possibly true. Won't hold my breath.

>>259574214

That pleb shit taste.

>>259576169
Did they ever explain why he had an american accent and nobdy else did anyway?

>>259576175
Sounds pretty much right to me.

>>259576137

His relationship with "Jim" was pretty neat.

>Not catching on to the obvious hidden blades of being a woman
>Getting called a fuckwit for not understanding things
>Razzing her about being a girl in private

Their friendship was so cool.

>>259576197
Damn...

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>>259576214
I have 2 WebMs from the co-op video.

>>259576328

I just wanted to see them fuck.

>>259576301

They retconned his accent in Revelations. It was somehow even worse.

>>259575731
One final detail.

The completionist in me is killing the game. All the towers, side missions. God I just can't stop and I know this is going to extend the game until I hate it. At least it lets me fast travel to my mission destination city now.

>>259575897
>"Unity combat actually looks like it's proper combat and not X to win."

it's press x + y to win now

>>259576301
Animus translated the speech, some wasn't so sometimes the guards/other NPCs spoke the real language.

>>259576197
Fetch is hot as fuck.

>>259576301
Animus localisation or some shit, his VA changed his accent in Revelations. I'm gonna assume its a similar excuse for the Unity British accents.

>>259574313
>world throbbing red because desmond was trying to reject it
>running and hiding while every guard has a hateboner

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>>259576363

> tfw you will never be a pirate

>>259576363
anyone wish there was a hardcore mode like bushido blade where you cant get hit or you die?

>>259576615
>tfw ACRogue looks like dogshit

>>259576612
>>259576363
>healthbars are back
about fucking time

I'm really hyped for Rogue.
I'm pretty certain that I was the only person who genuinely enjoyed Black Flag sans the shit story after *ACTUAL SPOILER*Blackbeard gets stabbed to death, and then shoehorning a strong independent woman into the crew. It was just silly for such a pair of tits to not get raped on the high seas.

Sailing, plundering, and swashbuckling was really fun. I loved the environment, and the general pirate tone of the game. If it was a bit more fleshed out, It would be the perfect pirate game in my opinion.

Rogue is supposed to be a sequel to that section of the Assassinverse, and I'm very excited to see the templar point of view, sail the atlantic, and explore ye olde New York. The new gun system looks promising as well.

Swiggity swooty
I'm comin' for that booty

>>259576615
>wanting to see all your friends die

I put the game down for a week after everyone died and Adewale left you shit was so sad.

>>259576363
>>259576612
Looks exactly the same as before but the enemy has a lifebar.

>>259576697
I've been wishing for something like that since AC2.

>>259576363
>>259576612

First one could just be the player being incredibly fucking awful. Second one looks like pretty standard "keep hitting the attack button until you win".

>>259576615
There are pirates to this day, and I'm not talking about software piracy.

>>259576363
>>259576612
Assuming the parts where the guard's health bar gets larger are parry windows, the system is forgiving as fuck and no better than the counter system.
>he kills the guard by mashing the attack button

Combat will be no better than before.

>>259576452
If I were you get the viewpoints if you want but don't bother with the Templars or flags. I'm the anon who has 100% in all of these games from a few posts ago and it's seriously like chasing ghosts. It will take you the better half of a weekend to do it all and doesn't actually reward you with anything.

>>259569573
Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Animal Crossing. To think that I'll never get to play it again for the first time is upsetting.

>>259576743
If Rogue is to AC4 what Brotherhood was to AC2 then is more than welcome.

>>259576860
>Not hunting down every templar scum in the Holy Land

Can agree on the flags though. Fuck those.

>>259569573

>tfw you are italian and wished you lived in the renaissance era
>tfw AC2

I live in Venice nowadays, but I fucking cummed when I saw a similar representation of what it looked like in the past, fucking amazing.

>>259576290
And he still gotten more achievements and 100%s than you ever have i bet.

>how to fix asscreed combat
>A is now mid level attack
>X is head level attack
>B is now low level attack
>while in high profile these all change to according block stances
>increase combat speed by 10%

>>259576898
That's what why I'm excited. From what I've seen It'll essentially be a refined Blag Flag. I also don't need to pay for online.

>>259576786
>>259576827
>>259576848
There's this one dev video where there's new snippets of the combat where it's against several guys at once and it looks like there's more going on, the guy playing also dodged/jumped back at one point.

>>259576290
That's just a section of it, I have way more pleb shit games than that.

>>259577305
You've always been able to dodge like that. Just nobody bothers because you may as well use the input to counter and end the fight.

>Everyone ranting and raving about AssCreed
>Play AssCreed 1
>Wow, it's fucking nothing
>Everything about is mediocre to shit, but the setting looks okay
Why does anybody like these games again? They're shitty stealth games and they're shitty action games.

>>259577305
>More going on

Could simply be like those multi counters where it's a mini-cutscene.
Dodging has always been in asscreed

>>259576841
you mean somalian pirates?

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>>259569573
>AC went downhill after the ezio trilogy
No anon, it went downhill after the first game.

Neither game of the Ezio trilogy managed to fix the flaws of the first game, being combat, stealth, AI, climbing, progression and repetitive side missions. Sequels didn't either.

But hey, it's been such a long time now, people just remember AC1 as being a shit game, when it's actually the best of the series.

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>>259577102
>tfw will never visit Florence or Venice during the Renaissance and will never participate in the original Carnevale
Just fucking kill me already, I'd take meeting Michaelangelo or Da Vinci over anything there is to do today.

>>259577416
1 is the worst in the series

AC:B> 2> 4>>>AC:R>>>>> 3>>> 1

>>259577102
>mfw I live in Venice too
Di dove sei, recion?

>>259577386
Well that's the point, you can't do that insta-counter any more, and if I remember correctly the reason he dodged was because 2 of the 3 attacked almost simultaneously.

>>259577446
It wasn't one of those.

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Unity is looking to be the first real sequel to AC.

I'm one of those people who thinks AC1 is the best AC game. I dislike AC2's direction. It's even worse that each subsequent game has further gone in the direction AC2 veered off into.

So it's nice to see Unity bring back the focus on your target and the sandbox (they're calling those missions blackboxes) element around assassinating him.

It feels like they know what they're doing this time around. They've said in several interviews that AC1 is their inspiration and the emphasis on stealth and reigning in the combat shows it's not just buzzwords this time.

>>259576530
STOP TRYING TO SCARE ME WITH BODY SHAME HELEN MURRIEN NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR TITS SHE SCARE THAT WAY AT ZUCCOTTI PARK GOSH

>>259577683
>So it's nice to see Unity bring back the focus on your target and the sandbox (they're calling those missions blackboxes) element around assassinating him.
Sad thing is, they're not really "sandboxes", they're just "oh look you have different scripted options".

It's still far from a true sandbox.

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>>259577683
>it's not just buzzwords this time.

I went to replay AC2 a while ago, since it's one of my favorite games, and it just lost the spark. Brotherhood and Revelations camped on the formula so hard it just wasn't fun.

AC4 fucking blew me away though, definitely need to replay. I'm really struggling over Unity and Rogue. On the one hand, I don't know if I want the multiplayer gimmick or a lastgen game, but at the same time, DAT FRANCE and DAT SAILING.

I really wish they had used the sailing engine to make a new series of games since there's basically nothing like that and it doesn't fit too well with Assassin's Creed. AC needs to go back to basics, I'd love a remastered AC1.

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>>259577603
>literally, 100%, pleb
I'm surprised you didn't put 4 number one since it's so awesome and full of epic pirates.

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>>259577825
Please no, let me believe this.

Turned to shit after AC:R. Playing in exotic locations and different cultures is what made the first four games for me. The mystery and intrigue with the assassin tombs, the music playing while running on rooftops... AC3 and 4 was boring to me, story wise.

>pirates
>america
>guns

yeah, nah

>>259569573
>AC went downhill after the ezio trilogy
>Implying Revelations wasn't complete shit

>>259577416
It was a decent game made better if you played it when it was released by the fact that it was one of the first games of the new generation. The graphics, animations and size of the world were mindblowing at the time. There was also the fact that it had incredible potential if they catered less to casuals. We all know how that went though.

Playing it now that it's almost a decade old and knowing that the potential goes nowhere, yeah, it's a letdown.

>>259577683
My only issue with ACU is that they're getting rid of double assassin's blades. That's such a fucking huge step backwards. They were a little broken in 2, to be fair, but when you get them you feel such a massive advancement over Altair's capabilities. Stripping that away is beyond retarded, unless they expect the multiplayer element to make up for that.

I also felt like they similarly wasted the Assassin's Guild element from Brotherhood. Again, it was just a tad bit broken and needed to be refined but it was such a solid advancement. Ezio trilogy really is the best of AC as far as continual improvements go, although AC1's minimalist style is really effective as well.

>>259578063
> believing in european EA

>>259577851
Rogue is clearly a glorified expansion with 90% reused assets. I wouldn't be suprised if it's actually got relatively little to do much like Revelations.

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>>259573674
>Rouge looks good

Have you seen any of the footage, anon? It's just a shitty North American reskin of Black Flag. The mechanics, the animations, the graphical effects (for fucks sake even some of the ambient dialogue) is all reused from AC4.

>>259571473
Did it every playthrough, except once when I wanted to see what he'd do

>>259569573
>yfw you'll never get to play AC2 for the first time again
I've never played any Assassin's Creed, so technically I could play it for the first time still.

>>259577860
b-but anon, pirates are awesome!

yo ho pillage and plunder! How could you NOT like them?!

>>259578096
> imlpying the whole ezio trilogy wasn't complete shit

>>259577806
I don't think so, did you see the gamescom gameplay one? With the fat merchant? What the guy did was that he eavesdropped, followed, and then killed a guy to get in to the confession booth, and then stole the keys to get in. What, apparently, could also be done, is that you can skip all that, climb up to one of the entrances, lockpick (if you have the skill), and then air assassinate the guy when he's in the crowd listening to the priest. Of course guards were around him so you'd have to run, but still, that sounds sandbox to me. Another thing was that the main entrance was filled with guards, and apparently you could also try and take them on though since they keep saying combat is harder, I guess it would be much riskier.

>>259578205
Well no shit.
All the money is going into Unity for Next/current gen.
Of course Rouge, the last-gen game, is going to have minimal care put into it.

>>259577683
falling from that distance and not ripping your shoulder off as much as it would annoy a lot of people i wouldn't mind seeing some realistic jumping

>>259578096
Revelations had one solid element, the dungeons. Far better than they've been in any other AC games.

The perfect games would be AC2's cities with Brotherhoods Guild mechanics, Revelations' dungeons and artstyle, the sailing mechanic from 4 and 1's minimalist plot and combat.

AC3 can git fucked

>>259578145
They've already shown you can do double takedowns with just 1 blade anyways. It's just some new animation where Arno punches the guy and stabs the other or something. Same shit.

>>259578096
Story-wise was one of the best. Dem feels during the final cut scene ;_;

>>259569573
>not being an Assassin
>not giving any fuck about the Creed
>all the Animus lore and mechanics being broken
>AI still as retarded
>more overpowered weapons breaking further the broken combat
>guards visible on the minimap
>terribad story about vengeance
>broken climbing sections because of fixed camera

What did the AC2 trilogy got right? Well, gorgeous locales, interesting characters that are more fleshed out thanks to a longer storyline, and a reputation system.

Everything else was crap.

>>259578331
So basically instead of having a single YOU SHOULD KILL ME NOW IT'LL BE PERFECT situation like in previous games there are several. Big whoop.

>>259578145
I think there's an interview were someone asked about the dubsblades, and the guy said you could get them later in the game if you chose to invest skillpoints in that direction or something like that. But you can still kill 2 at once, though I guess it's only 1 for air assination.

>>259578361
>guy never falls more than 2 stories in one move
>3 stories is considered the danger zone for jumping, and that's just for broken or sprained limbs

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>>259578361
Why does everyone say this? Seriously. Because when I saw that video my only thought was "cool."

>>259578331
All of that is still far too scripted to be a sandbox, elements are purposedly placed there so that you can use them. You can actually be pretty sure that all these elements don't exist outside of the mission.

A real sandbox keeps being a sandbox through the whole thing, it doesn't just put you into a sandbox mission.

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>>259578551
>"Big whoop."
>mfw I literally just explained to you how it is actual sandbox and you dismiss it
Is this autism?

>>259569573
I have start yesterday to play AC, i got all the AC but i never played

>>259578551
There's just no pleasing some people I guess.

>>259578638
Try jumping from 5 meters and just stopping your fall by grabbing a beam or something

How the fuck did Shaun get a job at abstergo?

>>259578638
Because people are brainwashed into thinking you die from a 3 foot fall.

>>259578361
You can't seriously complain about this in the series that has had leaps from giant fucking buildings into hay bales that perfectly cushion the fall.

>>259578403
That's stupid though, it takes meaning away from the hidden blade. It started off as a weapon of opportunity that could only kill one person discretely, then became upgraded so that if you knew exactly what you were doing you could take down 2, and now it's "hurr doesn't matter kills however many people"?

Every time I learn something new about Unity, I like it less

>>259578502
>I have literally never played the Ezio trilogy

>>259574910
I did that shit easily long before they patched it to make it easier

>>259578843
don't worry that annoys me as well
>>259578596
keep in mind that he has weapons and light armor on

>>259578825
By being a professional history teacher who knew too much and also being a leet haxorz.
Did you pay any attention at all?

>>259578737
So you're saying that instead of going to missions etc. the game should just let things happen and you should walk around trying to find someone who's important or something? I don't understand what you're getting at,
>A real sandbox keeps being a sandbox through the whole thing, it doesn't just put you into a sandbox mission.
You go to the mission start, the mission begins, you have a guy to kill, you have some options to expand on how you want to get to him, you get to him, you kill him, you have to get away. What exactly do you want that's 'sandbox' here? That the game tells you that you don't have to kill him but only if you feel like it or something?

>>259570449
>tfw ac2 dosent run on my computer

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Man, I remember how hyped I was when I found out the AC: Unity was going to be set in Victorian London, but then it just turned out to be a rumor.

Don't get me wrong, the French setting seems fun and interesting, but the London setting would have been brilliant. You'd start the game off as a member of a pick pocket organization (similar to Fagin's gang from Oliver!). Something would go wrong, the police would discover the hideout, and you have to live on the dangerous streets of London for a few weeks. They could set it up that the MC is taken into the assassin organization because of how well he knows the layout of London and starts off his training. One of the members of your organization would be Jack the Ripper. You could also throw Sherlock Holmes into the game as a character (kind of like Da Vinci).

Anyone else have anymore interest ideas/characters for the Victorian London setting?

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>>259578814
I'm not an assassin though, I'm just a cheeto stained NEET. Wait a sec, are you trying to kill me?

>>259578996
>thinks post-antiquity armor and weapons weigh anything
holy fuck stop posting

>>259578778
It's not a sandbox though. You can't wait until night, sneak into his estate and murder him in his bed like I could to someone back in FUCKING OBILVION. You get a handful of constructed cirumstances to make your move. Congratulations. AC has caught up to Hitman, a 2001 game. Watch your fucking buzzwords before you try to sound smart.

>>259579027
This, he's a history expert, a.k.a perfectly qualified for a barista job.

>>259579102
nobody cares about your fanfiction. It was confirmed france since Brotherhood.

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>>259578942
>that one mission where you're chasing that faggot through the streets after you exit some building
>all those NPCs
>full synch requires not to hit a single one
>do it
>there's a patch later on so the streets have 90% less population during the mission
>mfw
What's wrong with people

>>259569573
Y'know, I would've liked the game a fuckload more if it wasn't for the 2012 bullshit shoehorned in.

Didn't stop me from getting all the trophies to up my loser-score.

>>259577575
>AC1
>good at all
in what way? It was boring as fuck. Combat was repetitive, assassinations were repetitive, horse-riding was repetitive, you had to hide for hours before they stopped chasing you even if you were in the middle of the countryside, and the only good plot was the beginning and the end.

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>>259579198
Holy fuck
I never even made that connection
goddamnit Ubi
that is fucking brilliant

>>259579102
More like
>no backstory
>ancient aliens

Fucking Ubisoft

>>259578843
because the haystack were placed by the animus to provide better navigation. ezio didn't do any of them except the jump at the river

>>259579063
>So you're saying that instead of going to missions etc. the game should just let things happen and you should walk around trying to find someone who's important or something? I don't understand what you're getting at

He's saying that would be a true sandbox. Should AC be a true sandbox? Maybe, maybe not, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not really a sandbox as is.

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>>259579178
Uh, you can't just dig through the ground and make a tunnel leading to his house and pop up through the floor board and kill him while he was sleeping? That doesn't sound like a sandbox to me.

>>259579254
The Truth was the best element of 2 though. It got out of hand in the later Ezio trilogy so they retconned it out. But it's fucking great finding all that shit before it was super well known on the internet.

Post >yfw Desmond comes back to life

>>259578361
I came looking for this post

at least the previous games had some semblance of climbing ability

>>259578843
It bothers me that they didnt even fucking bother to fit a parabolic curve for leaps of faith. You can see the janky-ass midair shifting to land into it. It's retarded.

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>>259579456

>>259579116
You don't know till you've tried it anon

>>259579178
I was about to write something about how you want the game to let you sit down and have a coffee at the local cafe and wait for the target to sit by you so you could kill him, but I guess >>259579390 got it instead.
Why are you even in this thread, is what I'm thinking.

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>>259579451
>tfw getting spooked the fuck out at those glyphs
>that last one with the skeleton
>that video
>that ending
>mfw
Fucking goosebumps and shit, what the hell, that conspiracy shit was too much for me, and the ending just had me gaping like a fucking monkey

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post your face when they bring out a western AC

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>>259577683
Living in Paris myself, it makes the bullshit "parkour" stand out in the gameplay videos even more. There's no way you can go down a building that fast to begin with, the fall speed is far too great, and the smallest heights the characters jump down from are well enough to break a leg.

It's just complete bullshit, I wish they would finally have realistic fall damage, it would improve the game so much more.

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He'd have killed this guy on the right much faster if he just had 2 blades. What a scrub Arno is. Thousands of years of advancement and he goes in without a hidden gun or a second blade.

Instead he makes some retarded unfolding crossbow?

Even Connor's hidden blade could be spun out and used as a dagger. Now that was cool.

>>259569573
>AC is now considered a good series

What the flying FUCK happened?

Trying to catch up with the series, started AC3 a while back. I heard it's shit, but why exactly? I want to know what I'm getting myself in for.

>>259578903
>I have literally never played the Ezio trilogy
Because any of those points is wrong maybe?

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>>259579354
But then no game is really a sandbox, since you can't do exactly what you want in every game.
This is seriously retarded, what the hell are you two even going on about.

>>259577683
That looks painfully scripted

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>>259579781
>that Joan of Arc scream

>>259569573
>AC went downhill after the ezio trilogy
Nah mate, AC has always been a mediocre series with its ups and downs.
Assassin's Creed 1 was repetitive as fuck.
Assassin's Creed 2 was a vast improvement, but the graphics were downgraded and the characters were cartoonishly good or evil.
Assassin's Creed 2: Ezio Pandering Part 1 and 2 were pretty boring.
Assassin's LEEd 3 was horrible.
Asassin's Creed 4 had shallow, repetitive ship battles and underwhelming cities. Dem shanties doe.

>>259579958
It's not. It's definitely one of the spots where it looks its best though. But all he's doing there is holding the parkour down button. It's all procedural.

>>259579583
>>259579390
Why are you defending an idiot that's drunk off hype and throwing the word sandbox around? People like that guy are the ones who will be here on day 1 of Unity'd release posting how it's barely any different to previous games and not what the Ubisoft hype train promised him with his YOU CAN DO ANYTHING trailers.

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>>259579456

>>259579809
So is Arno French? Because if he is, i'm boycotting the game.

>>259579451
I liked the secret Adam and Eve clip, but that's it really. I was mainly getting tired of it cause' my friend was super paranoid and into the whole conspiracy bullshit.

Hell, I even got a scare when the human lottery promotion for the 2012 movie was airing.

Like holy shit Hollywood WTF?

>>259569783
I fucking loved AC3. It was, to me, the final good Assassin's Creed game. Nah fuck that, I'm sure AC4 is good, but I can't bring myself to play it. AC3 was good though, I can't understand why people just hate it. I'm not saying that it has no flaws, but the setting, the hunting, there is still normal parkour and through the trees, then there is the fucking awesome dual kills when you're in the heat of battle. Only thing I can say I hated that it was insanely slow at starting.

AC2 is still my favorite.

>>259579790
>realism would improve the game
please fucking stop breathing

>>259580063
He's Austrian

>>259569573
AC2 was everything AC1 was supposed to be in the first place. If it was realeased as the first game in the series, people would conider it GOAT.

>>259579063
I'm saying it should always been a sandbox, so options to steal keys or lockpick entrances shouldn't just appear during the mission.

In actual sandboxes, you can lockpick/steal keys and infiltrate places long in advance, recon the area, stash gear in a few places... so that when the actual mission starts, you have a headstart.

And obviously, not everything in a sandbox is worth your time, there are locked doors behind which you find nothing, forcing you to wonder which way to go. In this mission, this locked door obviously means "hey, this is one way to complete the mission!", because everything has this exact same purpose. And seeing how this door opens at roof level, I wouldn't be surprised if the beams inside you can walk on are carefully placed to allow you to sneak directly up to your target.

It's just not really a sandbox, it's a game that offers options, but they're far too well predefined to be a real sandbox.

In this case, the game just starts being a very scripted

>>259580063
Why

>>259580214
WHY

>>259579583
Is it seriously impossible to imagine that the game could have the target do a bunch of things at different locations with the player being able to choose when to strike? I don't see why they couldn't have a guy go to a bunch of meetings and later return home with you being able to attack them en route, attack them at the meeting or break into their house and kill them there. All of these have been done in AC before, why is it necessary to force one on the player instead of letting them choose?

i like how they "coincided" the 2012 end of the world bullshit with AC3's story and how the ended the story with the world not ending because the mayans were bullshitting us

>>259579958
Of course it is. Every element of a game is scripted.

Unscripted segments run off scripts as well, because if nothing were scripted you'd be looking at a black screen.

>>259579261
I didn't say it's good, I said it's the best. It's relative. And that's the point.

Yes AC1 wasn't a good game, but neither sequel fixed any of its problems, so how could we consider those sequels to be good if they're worse than the first game?

>>259580052
>lel its not a sandbox because you cant jerk off in the middle of the street and cum into a guards eye so he has 73% less chance to hit you, so it's not a SANNOXGAme
You should see a doctor, m8.

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>>259580052
Look, I understand your definition and how it might not apply, but it might as well be a sandbox. I mean, at what point do the amount of options available make it become a sandbox. If you're given a ton of options to assassinate your target and they have interesting methods that play off of your playstyle and selected traits, then... I mean what more do you want? Christ.

It sounds like you'll be complaining day 1 because all you like to do is complain.

I hate how ubisoft tries to make AC into some multiplayer game.
You need precision controls to make a competitive multiplayer game.
AC's controls are terrible to say the least.
They could have gone with a fighting game style combo-based combat instead of QTE's.

>>259580350
Amen bro