>Delving into the Labyrinth of Chaos >Playing Dwarf >Join

Mage a shit.

>>258881293
Nah. Elf a shit. Sorceresses and Wizards are always welcome.

>>258881071
>Join the party of an Elf who's playing on Vita
Your fault for enabling vita.
>our party is a screaming mess of high pitched japanese
Did you set match making for worldwide? That's what happens because you end up with kids in japan.

>Can't even cast rune magic because it's such a mess
There becomes a point where rune magic starts bringing everyone down when you're in a party. Only go for mandatory magic like phoenix incantation/extra item stock.

>>258882037
>There becomes a point where rune magic starts bringing everyone down when you're in a party
no there isn't. Double Score bonus, Enchanted Coin Geyser and Potency and Durability or The True Fist are ALWAYS good. Anyways, you're being a boring cunt if you're rushing the game and ignore such thing.
>Your fault for enabling vita.
I enjoy having a bigger playerbase
>Did you set match making for worldwide? That's what happens because you end up with kids in japan.
None of them were Japanese. You're clearly underesitimate how many retard westerners have done nothing but play Japanese voiced Elf

>>258882368
>Enchanted Coin Geyser
>Potency and Durability
>The True Fists
0/10 would not party

>>258883073
Meh, I bet you're some sort of nofun faggot from the sounds of it.

>Enchanted Coin Geyser
I guess you don't like extending? Enjoy paying for all dem revivals.
>PaD and TTF
Oh sure let's waste our cooking bonuses and overheals on basic enemies! Fuck using extremely powerful buffs to invalidate them right?

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Sweet, A DRAGON'S CROWN THREAD!

Just bought this a few days ago when it was on sale at this mom and pop game store, and I'm enjoying it immensely. The art's really amazing, and those hips on the Fairy. Goddamn.

My Fighter is lvl 14 and I'm going through the story and doing all the side quests, but I was wondering how it's possible to level up the other characters just as quickly. Can I redo the side quests or do I just endlessly grind dungeons with them?

Pretty glad I bought this game.

>people online
>playing ANYTHING but dorf

Don't you want to have fun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU4kjjkiZk8

Translation for the manga when?

>>258885030
>Can I redo the side quests or do I just endlessly grind dungeons with them?
Every character has access to all quests.

>>258885252
Video was meh. Not enough cool footage of Dorf wrekkin'. Enjoyed the Sanic bit though

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Elf 2 is best elf.

>>258885648
Elf 5 is best actually.

>thinking ELVES of all things have many colours of skin

>>258881293
The wizard is the best-looking character you fucking faggot.

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>>258885905
>he doesn't like delicious brown elves

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>>258885905
>Mythological creature
>complaining about diverse skin colors
>liking the most vanilla human-looking Elf

Nah, you don't like Elves, man. Just cock.

>>258886496
Elves of ALL things in the whole fucking world are something I can't tolerate racial diversity within. They're pretty little white people with pointy ears and long lives

>>258887727
>look everyone, I read tolkien!
Stop.

>>258887557
>Mythological creature
but that's exactly it! Elves have a fucking pre-existing mythology as fair skinned tree huggers with pointy ears and a knack for Archery.

>>258887989
Even in old lore from the British Isles was centered about white things. If they weren't "white" they were green or "black" in the sense that they looked like coal.

>>258888039

They also have pre-existing mythology of foot-tall weirdoes with shoe fetishes.

>>258888279
What if white and black elves reproduced?

>>258885905
>>258885648
Elf 4 master race

>>258888364
And in those shoe related stories they weren't brown people. Stop thinking with your dick.

>>258888452
I'd be okay if it's extensively defended by lore. Tell me they're the mix of a black race and white race? Sure! I'll buy that. But Dragon's Crown has that Black Dwarf and Brown Elf and it's just fucking silly to me. It's just diversity for the sake of diversity. When was the last time you saw an Ebony Dworf who didn't have a faggot name and know NOTHING about playing?

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>>258888039
>"Hay guise, I read in dis fantuhsy book that thingz r sopposed 2 b ecsactly this way with know deeveeshun atall!"

>>258888892
>Hey guys in this one book the "dragons" were actually just big crocodiles who didn't even breathe fire or spit any form of projectile weapon
>they were still real dragons though!

You're being silly.

>>258889145

Plenty of stories with dragons who can't fly or breathe fire or have 4 limbs.

They're fantastic creatures. A dragon is a force in a narrative, not something with hardcoded anatomical rules.

>>258889145
Dragons were origionally small, weak creatures, basically highly venomous lizards, and were meant to be pathetic and disgusting. Fire breathing noble beasts are more bullshit than giant crocs.

>>258889710
>Plenty of stories with dragons who can't fly or breathe fire or have 4 limbs.
Dragons requires the following in additon to be reptilian
>Size
>Special projectiles or magic
>Intelligence
If a dragon scores a 1/3 it's hardly a dragon.


For Elves the requirements are
>Pointy Ears
>Fair Skin
Same deal. Brown Elves only fit half the rules.

>>258889992
>Dragons were origionally small, weak creatures
There's enough variation on the lore that you're wrong. I doubt the Chinese or Japanese ever saw them that way

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>>258881071
>playing as Sorceress
>party up with a Fighter and a Dwarf
>Dwarf is pretty bro
>Fighter is the shittiest shitter who ever shat a shit
>norunescausegottagofast
>leaving areas before all the enemies are dead
>never uses his team bonuses
>Ignores the food I make even when hes got one foot in the grave and the room is completely empty
but worst of all
>left a room right after we had Treasure Hunters Friend activated, and the chest was in the midst of spawning while bathed in ethereal light and mystical smoke
>cant leave because I got a 200% point, 150% gold, and 50% treasure rank bonus chain going

You know who you are and I hope you kick a snow drift with a cinder block hidden in it

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>play offline
>think maybe online won't be so bad this time
>join an online room
>reach B boss
>everyone fucking sucks and the fight takes 6 minutes because everyone keeps getting themselves killed like retards
>go back offline
>kill same boss in 30 seconds

>>258890402

Didn't the never ending story have a dragon that was a dog?

>>258890402

Who died and made you head of the Department of Mythological Accuracy?

>>258890523

Dragons in china are pretty much completely different from dragons in the west. Dragons in the west were basically satan or demons.

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>>258885648
Elf 3 reporting in

>>258885648
>liking shitskin

>>258891464
He looked like a dog but he had reptilian features and was magical talking and big. You can be a bird dragon if you've got enough of the other requirements ticked off.

>>258891754
Both were big angry niggas

>>258891627
Nobody. I'm just saying Brown Elf is worst Elf. It's the least "accurate" or "canon" and is only loved by people who're thinking with their dicks or ARE that color and feel some faggot need to be the same color inside the game and out. .

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>>258885030
Once you beat the intro story once with one character, any other characters you make on that save have the option of skipping right to the talisman hunt and level 15. Also Quests that you have beaten with one character can be skipped by the others, but they only get the skill points, no gold or EXP if they choose to skip them.

Basically power leveling up a new character is a breeze, but if you are only level 14 you probably arnt half way done yet, boss count is about to double

Anyone ever played with that guy who drew that art that gets reposted all the time in these threads?

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>>258892319
What's it like to be a joyless husk?

>>258890906
Re-posting because I'm still a bit mad about this

>playing dragon's crown
>chain my ass of for almost an hour
>set it up so that I'll be able to feast on Chimera, Kraken AND Kill Rabbit at one meal
>get partied with two retard magic classes
>both brought fire staffs to the Kraken level
>none of them get how to work the cannons in the boat fight
>takes me nearly to the time limit to kill the Kraken solo thanks to their idiocy
>get to camp screen
>shove the rabbit and chimera in a pot and a pan
>player 2 takes the rabbit meat before it's even cooked for two seconds
>dumps it in player 3's bowl
>Player 3 doesn't even eat it
>Try to at least cook my chimera properly
>About to burn but perfectly seasoned
>they stick burnt oysters in my bowl
>my chimera meat is ruined because I can't serve it in time

>>258892684
severe clinical depression is a bitch. I let things like the whole brown elf thing get to me. You guys do nothing but post dumb shit like
>playing anything but delicious brown elf
fucking all day. It's tiresome.

>>258892361
>Quests that you have beaten with one character can be skipped by the others, but they only get the skill points, no gold or EXP if they choose to skip them.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?! FUCKING FUCK. I DID ALL THE QUESTS ON FUCKING FOUR DIFFERENT CHARACTERS. FUCKING HELL I FUCKING WANT TO DIE.

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>>258893204
I choose to do most of the quests on my characters since for the most part its easy money, especially the later ones. But didn't it tell you you could skip them?

>>258892319
>"accurate"
>"canon"
>from an entire fictional mythological universe
>persisting with these angsty aryan sentiments
>dick probably isn't big enough to satisfy a delicious chocolate Elf
>"canonically" Elves are proud of their inherent beauty
>pretty sure Elves wouldn't take too kindly to skin-deep biggotry and insulting the beauty of their people

Stay pleb.

>>258892319
You should really get on the path of diagnosis and treatment for your severely debilitating autism.

>Find a "chaos" item for my dwarf
>+50% Rockskin effectiveness
>Rockskin does 50% damage reduction already
Holy shit. I wonder if I could stack these somehow.

>>258894073
>But didn't it tell you you could skip them?
Sure! I always saw the OPTION but I thought to my self
>What kind of jibbering retard would "skip" a skillpoint he can't ever get back?

>>258883380
isn't the TTF buff just mediocre? I remember doing more damage with the weapon than with that buff with amazon.

Also why WOULD'T people rush through the stages, I keep being grouped with idiots that keep wasting durability on enemies that can easily be avoided.

Faster climb, less durablity wasted get it through your heads

Btw does anyone know if knockback and knockdown are separate, or does knockback override knockdown? I don't know if I should focus on both or just one with my Zon, also there are attacks that knock you down no matter what right?

>>258892361
How fast can you power level up a character? only got one character at 134 but I'm interested in playing another...how fast can I get a 15 one to 99 and how do I manage to make them survive on Ultimate??

>>258881071
anyone else want to fuck that fairy?

Rate muh dorf build
http://fruitriin.sakura.ne.jp/DrgnsCrwnSS/eng/?D9ba90550000a55002010713

>inb4 criticism of Trinket Maniac
Y'all can suck my nuts. At level 10 my gear fucking NEVER wears out. I can use one bag for like 9 fucking levels.

>>258895280
>isn't the TTF buff just mediocre?
Not for a Dwarf. With the rate at which I'm punching with frenzy I'm fucking WRECKING. And it lets Elves finally contribute with their kicks instead of being useless when they need to knock more arrows around
>Also why WOULD'T people rush through the stages
Because it's fun. I'm playing to ENJOY myself. I only skip ghosts and maybe Myconids. I hope we NEVER party together, you'll turn our party into a soulless grind.

>game was ruined by the patch 1.05 camera
>vanillaware wont fix it

ah shit-o~~~~~~

>>258896356
>played at release
>played now
>can't tell the difference you're whining about
Feels good I guess.

>>258895854
Everyone would fuck that fairy if they could.

>>258895280
>not packing multiple bags for long quests
Are you trying to marathon the game? Slow the fuck down, bro.

And I'm pretty sure they're separate. One causes a wall bounce and one knocks an enemy on their ass.

>>258895280
>isn't the TTF buff just mediocre?
In most cases yes, I used elf in my first playthrough, and pretty much it's a lifesaver when you run out of arrows, mostly when you are in lower levels, also amazon in lower levels could use it too, for the rest it's pretty much shit

>Also why WOULD'T people rush through the stages
Well that's your way to have fun, mine is to go slow and steady and keep an eye for good runes spells like phoenix, double score, PaD and TTF when you are just starting a new character, also mostly of time I've found GOTTA GO FAST faggots they miss stuff like The Skeleton Key room, several chest and Phoenix incantation spells, and they are the first to fall and spend gorillions getting revived or fucking it up in bosses with a gimmick, like the rushing the Wraith instead of picking a torch.

>>258896894
Not if she was so tiny. That's not my jam. Make her five feet five inches and maybe we can talk.

>>258896968
>In most cases yes
The nonhuman classes love it. Have you never seen a dorf going full frenzy for 4 full seconds with TTF on? The damage storm is INSANE.

>>258896894

Honestly, If I can catch it, I'll fuck it

Been meaning to get it one of these days.
How multiplayer focused is it? Like, is it playable in singleplayer but you really need multiplayer to enjoy it like with Borderlands for example?

I wish I was an alcoholic fairy.

>>258895607
If you wanna go full lazy and you have two controllers you could simply enter with the new character as player 2 while having your lvl 134 do all the job, you'll probably have to pay sometimes for revives but if you can complete a cicle I'm pretty sure i'll get a good bunch of levels, I've seen people doing that online and it's a pain in the ass, but effective.

>>258897379
>Like, is it playable in singleplayer but you really need multiplayer to enjoy it like with Borderlands for example?
Nah, the single player is just fine. Often times I find myself thankful for having AI party members instead of real players because they don't fuck up quest conditions or eat all the best food.

>>258897228
No actually not, sadly most dwarves I had played with are people that love rushing and skiping everything.

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>playing Sorceress
>join another Sorceress
>another Sorceress joins
>oh my god, I can't see shit
>oh m y god, t he fram er ate

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>>258897025
>he doesnt want to violently fuck a fairy like a crying, fleshy onahole

what are you, gay?

>>258896894
If I've learned anything from muh japanese mangos it would pretty much be like a living fleshlight

>>258897379
It's playable solo, but there are definitely some spots in the game that are frustrating to do alone with certain classes.

And there's NPC's you can party up with or just use as fodder. But it's really good when you play multiplayer with some good friends or people who aren't fucktarded.

Also I think it's still free on PS+ for PS3 and Vita.

>>258897719
>sadly most dwarves I had played with are people that love rushing and skiping everything.
They're a disgrace to the name. And here I was thinking my class of choice was also generally the most well played/least retarded.

Bro dwarves know to hold stunned elites overhead so the party can pummel them. Bro dwarves toss enemies TOWARDS the group of spamming melee and magic attacks. You haven't seen any yet. That's a shame.

>>258898114
No I'm just not a sick fuck like you. Not to say I don't have any odd fetishes, but none involve creepy pseudo pedo rape shit.

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>>258897719
I'm not one of those dwarves, anon.

>>258898202
Don't have it.

And it's probably NA only.

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>yfw you realized the Red Cap Goblins are based on a specific mythological entity

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>>258897719
If you see a Dwarf doing Rock Skin and turning left and right really fast, its me. Real Dorfs dont rush

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>>258899481
Is that thing scalped?

>>258897990
Are you playing the Vita version?

>>258900002
I have both versions, and I can tell you without a doubt yes. The Vita version has the bonus of the touch screen, but loses out on hot keys and the lag for more than 1 spell on screen is abysmal.

>>258899773
no. It's wearing a hat soaked in the blood of it's victims

>>258899773
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap

>>258900721
>be me
>be fast enough at cooking that I've been asked if I'm on Vita
>always getting the highest bonuses or atleast tied for best

>>258897537
I don't see how that's viable, well it is but it might be very expensive, on ultimate the first revival is 100K and a 15lv character uncontrolled is certain to die at least three times per stage maybe two if you're lucky

>>258901140
>on ultimate
So don't fucking do it on ultimate. Go to infernal instead. Ultimate is just stupidly imbalanced shit for us to smash our heads against with the help of all our own stupid imbalanced shit.

>>258896232
dude the fun starts on floor 300 and above when red aura bosses and rare encounters not to mention better loot appears more often, what fun is it to keep fighting the same enemies over and over for NO reason?? I'm still under floor 100

PSN Lifecarrier if you want to avoid me, when I jump into games I try to be considerate and play like the host wants to play though, on my game I'm rushing also because if I get to the edge of the state quicker more enemies will group and become an easier target for power smash.

>>258896967
>Not maximizing your 9 bags

I was talking defensively, I want to avoid my berserk levels from being interrupted

>>258900721
what hot keys are you talking about?

>>258896968
I'm talking LoC (already done with that) and ToM, there's no skeleton key or OTS runes there...also I rush but I do keep an eye for EIS, TPI, PAD, SBS, treasures, thing is progress fast since ToM upper levels are more fun actually, I hear the bosses even use runes, why wouldn't you wanna get there faster?

>>258902182
>playing Amazon
My nigga

>>258902279
You can hot key your equipment in town by by pushing left or right when the item is highlighted.

Vita specifically has no L2 so you have to split your hot keyed items between L and the d-pad/nub.

Also, please tell me you haven't been playing without hot keys?

>>258902763
Fighter Elf and Amazon don't need hotkeys much.

>>258902721
>SBS
NEVER! DSB OR NOTHING

>>258902721
>why wouldn't you wanna get there faster?
It's not worth sucking the fun out of everything else.

>>258902949
>Amazon not needing hotkeys
I see you drag down parties then, if there were no hot keys I wouldn't have a free brutal drive and berserk level every 6 seconds, also on bosses how else would you Strong Potion+War Paint+Incite Rage or defense potion, you do need hotkeys with every class.

That said Vita hotkeys are definitely enough, there isn't even enough space in a bag to warrant more than 6 hotkeyed functions

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>>258903784
>minmaxer amazon fag who obsesses over 10/10 damage output at all times
Ugh.

You certainly don't need hotkeys to use fucking buff items.

>>258902763
nah I was just an early PS3 player, hotkeys came a bit around the time I stopped playing, so I was just wondering about the difference between the two control schemes

>>258903136
hadn't thought about it like that, for extending purposes and the benefits that come with it, DBS could be better, thx for opening my eyes to that

>>258904110
>thx for opening my eyes to that
No problem champ.

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>>258904027
>That minmaxing amazon with no points in parry and maxed out adrenalin

>>258899634
I like to take my time and play for fun.

You should honestly try this, and hear me out on it. Deep into late game, you can get an item that allows your dodges (L button I believe) to cause an explosion where you were. Deal like 100 power damage. Not too weak but not too strong. If you have that item COUPLED with an item that has a stat that INCREASES YOUR INVINCIBILITY FRAMES WHEN DODGING plus you have skill points in BONUS DODGE COUNT, you can literally kill a boss by dodging all over the place.

It's rad as hell.

>>258905458
I hardly ever sprint or walk as dorf. only bonce around like a big muscular rubber ball. Sometimes I even just spam the downspin attack on landing too. makes me happy. I hope it's not obnoxious.

>>258905458
Oh and you will take absolutely no damage because the bonus dodge count makes your dodging have no cooldown (until you reach your max amount of successive dodges) and your invincibility frames don't have a gap. So you can kill a boss slowly with dodges while taking absolutely 0 damage

>>258905025
>played Amazon at release for my first character
>couldn't figure out how to parry
>ended up playing other classes more


Tell me how to parry.

>>258905827
Good timing

>>258905827
Just start up a dungeon on Normal difficulty and practice on some goblins until you figure it out. You'll be like level 35 and they will be like level 2, so you won't die any time soon.

>>258905025
>Rolling with a full HP bar amazon
It's like you enjoy doing half damage all the time

Berserk's last points are dumb though, you literally spend 3 or more points on 5% damage increases, after 30% increase points are better spent elsewhere, also last couple of levels on deadly revolution are also a waste

I think the smarter Zon build focuses on less damage taken, and no knockdown or knockback this way you can be on raping mode longer which is preferable to deal maybe 30-50% more damage but be killed or knockdown in a second

Also, is there a list on what attacks are able to be parried, fucking medusa on Ultimate wrecks my shit

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>>258905827
Hold square right before you get hit, you get a few seconds of invincibility, more then enough to work up a frenzy of berserk charges

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>>258905675
You can chain dodges with no gap even without the evasion skill

>tfw flipping through flame swathe attacks or burning floors

>>258905827
if you ask me it's too situational, not worth spending all the points required to max lvl, but you do want at least the increases for 1 skill point

>>258896232
>nobody rated my build

>>258906128
That comic is outdated. Now they can turn the wreckage into a golem anyways.

>>258906220
No there's a minor gap. Plus having more points in Evasion makes it more fun... or funner. Whatever whichever.

Oh and by explosions, I meant lightning strikes.

>>258906660
>No there's a minor gap
I can survive ancient dragon's screenwide flames without points in it.

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>>258906116
>points in adroit hands
>use all her buff skills at once
>???
thats all you need, there is no science to it, they each stack perfectly with one another

>>258906660
>Oh and by explosions, I meant lightning strikes.
Far less cool.

>>258906492
>that build
No points in Magma Infusion? Nothing in Power Mastery?

Here's my build.
http://fruitriin.sakura.ne.jp/DrgnsCrwnSS/eng/?D9ba90550000a55002010713

>why no use of bare handed combat
Because that does shit damage. Grand Smash does over 100k, my bombs do over 100k, and my magma infusion full frenzy combo does over 150k. I am only level 105 with mediocre gear, but I wreck shit

>>258905827
Hold down square and spam the left trigger to spam parry when enemies attack

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>>258907373
They look okay

>>258907452
>No points in Magma Infusion? Nothing in Power Mastery?
God no. I hate running out of those limited skills and feeling like my bag is useless now. Not to mention sucking an unlucky death right after using a magma brace? Fuck that. Additonally and finally, I'd feel the need to invest to max level in BOTH of those skilks if I took either one. I'd rather have the points elsewhere. Like Trinket Maniac. So that my best bags last stupid long.
>Because that does shit damage.
It really doesn't and sometimes you've nothing better to do than punch something until your next grand slam.

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>>258907830
Also here's my build in action ( >>258907452 ) with a 165-255 damage hammer

>>258906116
Eh, I don't trust myself playing Amazon with low health. Too risky. I would rather just parry and abuse brandish

>>258907830
I know, it's just not as cool as the bomb effect. Dwarf already has a sub theme of explosives... he should have gear for explosion on roll or bodyslam. It's dumb that FIGHTER gets the exploding tackle

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>>258908050
What do you think of an ice dwarf? Grand Smash modified.

>>258903136
While DBS is always great, SBS can be helpful when you're currently in a burning room or the game decides to spawn a shitload of enemies on you

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Was it just me, or was the final boss at least for the first arc I recently completed, dunno if there are any secret ones outlandishly bad looking? I mean, the game looked gorgeous in every aspect, but that final dragon boss looked shite, was practically just a floating head with a dragon blob behind it. What a disappointment.

>>258908318
I can dig it because he's the most "viking" of the classes.

>>258908378
I'd take SNS in a burning room sure, but that's not very common. As for a horde? I'd have to counter with get gut or get out of the way. Dorf/Fighter/Amazon can cope. Everybody else should stand back.

>>258903784
With parrying being a thing Incite Rage is relatively useless unless you're in it for the adrenaline boost

>>258908384
I think it was just you. I loved fighting a screen filling dragon who could cast a huge variety of magic

Friendly dwarf reminder for those who don't know, if you use Bomb, or you pick up a bomb, press Triangle and Circle and a direction (preferably left or right) to throw it a good distance.

>>258907452
>>258907971
you didn't send the url version. That's just the other dorf build again.

>>258908050
At least it makes shield bashing actually worthwhile for Fighters

>>258908318
I'm glad it got buffed. Seems like the definitive hammer for Dwarves compared to turn attacks to fire or whatever

>>258908050
Dwarf can get gear that gives him exploding throws

>>258907073
this is not viable, if you use incite rage + iron will you're guaranteed to die... since iron will will drain too much HP (if you used incite rage) too quickly it'll bring you to 1 HP in 6-10 seconds, hence while a high resistance to fame and natural (equipment provided) resistance to knockback/knockdown are a necessity

>>258909171
I know. That's pretty cool on it's own to have a double exploding throw... but he should still have exploding bodyslams or dodges.

>>258908853
Oops http://fruitriin.sakura.ne.jp/DrgnsCrwnSS/eng/?D9ba0555205a805000500023

Ok, Elf is shit. Now that is over.

How do I get gud with her? Im already level 22, too late to reroll, and like cute dodging lolis.

>>258897990
>play Sorceress
>another Sorceress joins
>they hog Blizzard casts and never use Protection or Create Food
Why even play Sorceress?

>>258908019
I think an amazon needs to use everything in her disposal to be most effective, no point in running around with 9 LP when you could trade some of those for 2X and upwards damage, if you're running low on LP THEN you should be careful and avoid damage...though some of the 0 LP bonuses on equipment sound very tempting to me

>>258909541
charge shots. lots of them. use dodges to hold yourself in the air while charging shots to snipe from the sky. don't other with her gimmick skills at first. just get better arrows related abilities.

>>258895280
>isn't the TTF buff just mediocre?
The best thing I love about it is that it gives me an excuse to throw my weapon across the screen and start pummeling enemies barehanded

>>258909541

Here is how you level as an elf

>max power shot for knockdown spam
>max elemental lore
>>pick up a torch and drop it to spam homing fireballs
>>spam tidal waves at the edge of water
>>spam default tornadoes on bosses for stupid damage

This will work until you beat Infernal

>>258908618
Ditto, but you also say that like parrying is so reliable, what are you doing till you can parry then? waiting for an enemie to attack? What do you parry on medusa? do you waste the initial 5 seconds where you can attack killer rabbit and warlock? also what can be parried against warlock?

I agree you do need points on parry, but I feel taking it to max lvl is wasting points that could be better spent

>>258908318
i chained like 20 floors of ToM with this balling ass dwarf with 2 ice hammers.

he probably wasn't the hot shit when it came to dps, but that nigga never even came close to death. his equipment also never came close to breaking.

was pretty jelly

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>>258895854
Maybe

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>>258910025
>advocating using elemental lore
Oh god. Just fucking kill yourself. Or kill me. Just fucking end this horrible existence.

>>258909541
>>258910025

Oh yeah I forgot

>if everything goes to shit on a boss, spam dodge and power shot while your team is dying until the boss is dead

>>258908673
thx I was wondering how they did that

>>258909171
it seems to me the dwarf gets abilities that makes pretty much everything he does explosive.

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>>258910258

Elemental Lore exists so I can be a lazy fuck while you do the hard work

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>>258910471
>playing a videogame
>work
You're doing everything wrong. Just fucking die.

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>>258910025
didnt know those are possible.....

Thanks!

>>258910859

Theres a lot of neat details about elemental lore but those are the best applications that turn an otherwise shit tier ability into a great ability. Don't get too lazy though and sit on your torch all the time and know when to break out the bow.

>>258892361
>Once you beat the intro story once with one character, any other characters you make on that save have the option of skipping right to the talisman hunt and level 15. Also Quests that you have beaten with one character can be skipped by the others, but they only get the skill points, no gold or EXP if they choose to skip them.

What

Oh goddamn

When I started the game I made one character of each class but only beat the game with one of them.

Then I played through it again with another character and had to do the intro shit all over again.

You mean I should have created the other characters after beating it once?

>Liking Kamitani's dorf design so much it has become imprinted into my brain

>Whenever I play dorf fortress all I see is a colony populated by that specific dorf design

Curse you kamitani for being such a great artist

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>tfw I made a c++ program in console to keep track of my sets total bonuses

This is my mount build for my dwarf

>>258911503
Yeah, exactly

>>258911503

Did you create a new character from the tavern menu or create a new save file?

>>258911561
The Dragon's Crown Dward is simply the best

>All dem wresting moves and body slams
>spinning like sonic or samus when he jumps and dodges
The only thing I don't like is that his english VA is probably the least boisterous and loud personality at the dinner table. His lines should loudest.

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>>258910025
>max elemental lore
NOPE. One level just to have access to it, but any more isn't worth it. Backstab/Dagger/Maintenance is by far her best secondary.

>>258911874
>>258911561

It annoys me to no end how impractical his hammers are as weapons though.

>>258910089
You just cancel your 4-hit combo into the parry when you see an attack coming. The same thing works for fighter to take full advantage of Cover Allies.

>>258911906

One point for Infernal+ if you're min-maxing. Otherwise there is no harm in maxing it for Normal-Infernal since its a room clearer on the weaker difficulties. On Infernal+ its completely useless.

>>258911990
Not really though. Think about it. His fighting attacks don't change when he's barefisted. The hammers he's using are just like... enhanced punches. They add weight and hardness to the impacts. Have you noticed his forearms and fists get a "stoneskin" effect whenever he's attacking? That's because he's literally just smashing you to death with his fists of granite.

He's not swinging them, he's almost using them like a roll of quarters in his hand or a set of brass knuckles

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>he put points into Rapid Fire

>>258913041
>not putting points in rapid fire

You know when you aim rapid shots upwards they penetrate targets and come down for the shockwave on the ground right? I don't know how well it holds up above hard mode, but it's a fucking strong method for harming large targets.

>>258913041
>>258913176

Rapid fire is necessary for end game min max build when an Elf needs to dump damage on single target from range immediately.

>>258913539
It's really not. Air charge shots stacked with Impact is where all your real damage is. The only late game use for Rapid is one level to quickly kill mages, but that's still not necessary.

Is there anyway to transfer my PS3 save to the Vita without the PS3 game? I sold it to pay for some other things, but would like to play it again since it's free. Just curious as to if I can do this or if I'd have to start over.

>>258912081
Can you parry all physical attacks like Red Dragon stomps? Magic is not parry-able is it?

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>>258914102
If you have uploaded your current status, you don't need the PS3-version. Otherwise you're fucked.

Elf is the best narrator

>>258914195
I haven't played Amazon enough to really know what you can and can't parry. Pretty sure you can't parry magic, but you can parry arrow traps so crossbows should be parryable.

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>>258914380

>>258914409

Oh well.

Not like playing more of the game is a bad thing anyway

>>258914102
get PS+ for the shortest period if you're on NA, or get it lent or rent it somewhere

>>258914418
I want to fuck that voice.

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>>258914102
>>258914542
Buy a used copy, upload the save, then return the game?

>>258914418
>Elf doing hermit impression

That's so fucking cute

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>>258910025
>max elemental lore
This is why everyone hates us anon, just max everything arrows, use only one point for elementals, and for secondary go for fucking backstab and daggers.

Elf is a ranged character, the more direct shit is for other classes

>>258910025

>max elemental lore

Well at least you were truthful in that it only works until you beat infernal. In the long run, it's better to spend your points elsewhere.

Why are narrator voices one fucking million gold? Why isn't it enough to just beat the game?

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>>258914380
>>258914540
Who the fucks makes this comics? I love them

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>>258914418
>>258914853
>TWO PATHS LEAVE THE FOREST, he shouts, THE PATH OF THE COWARD, AND THE PATH OF GLORY WHICH LEADS TO A VICIOUS MONSTER!

>>258914517
Are you the guy I was replying to because that comment seemed to me like you knew your shit...oh well...it was a nice tip since I mostly mash with amazon and parry the odd incredibly teleported attack out...

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>>258915160
This guy
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=matsu-sensei

His deviantart is Matsu-Sensei I believe

>>258915160

http://matsu-sensei.deviantart.com/
http://graphiteknight.tumblr.com/

He mostly draws huge tits.

>>258911906
>tfw you find +dagger power and +crossbow power equipment for your Elf
It's pure fucking carnage

>>258915325
Oh and as a forewarning, this guy has an obsession with tit inflation

>>258915095
I don't know, I got the game on release day, the narrator voice pack dlc was free at that time

>>258915095
it was free if you got the game day one..or idk maybe it still is check ps store

Also default is DEFINITELY best narrator...wish there was japanese narration for the classes, english voices suck ass except for Fighter and Dwarf which is kind of similar

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>>258915501
what tipped you off?

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Best Wizard build.

http://fruitriin.sakura.ne.jp/DrgnsCrwnSS/eng/?W9ba0153500030355000710733

Does anyone have one for Amazon?

>>258915594
Nah, the sorceress narration is sexy as fuck

>>258893204
>everything in this post
do something else with your life.

>>258915381

>http://graphiteknight.tumblr.com/

Doesn't he have a SFW(this one) and a NSFW one? Do you happen to have the NSFW one too?

>>258915694
>BROMETHEUS
Everytime

>>258915275
I've only played my Zon up to level 60~, so I'm just not sure about blocking shit like elite mobs, really.

>fucking around with builds, max slide attack

jesus christ this is actually pretty good for mobility especially with an ice on slide item

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>>258915796
Sorceress would be the best if she didnt fuck up some of the lines
>The cavern seems large enough to hold; Another Ocean
>the followers ofmornionarecapturingasmanyspiritsandfairiesastheycantopowertheirrunemagic
however her Hermit voice makes up for it

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>>258915485
My elf is wearing both affixes, my negro. Crossbows are fucking amazing coupled with maintenance.
>MFW an Arbalest drops

>>258916048
>wizards face
Every time

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>>258916048

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>>258915173

>mfw first encounter with the bunny

>>258915796
Nah, the sorceress sounds like she's 35-45 in english, in japanese it sounds like a playful 18-24

>>258916227

>elf narrator is Rikku being lazy
>sorceress narrator is run on sentences galore

wish there was a refund option

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>>258881071
>Fuckin' Elves.

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>>258916498
HAHA TIME FOR INSTAKILLS

>>258916498
I thought he looked like Tim the first time I saw him. Then on the Talisman part of the game - I just really wasn't expecting a Monty Python reference in a Japanese game

>>258915772
Drop Absorb completely and put it into nutrition. You should always be charging in between attacks for the overchage anyway.

>>258916498
haha it's great, I was expecting some hideous abomination, and its walking animation and stance are so natural looking and cute

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>>258916543
>in japanese it sounds like a playful 18-24

Don't you mean playful 17?

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>>258916498

I love it when /v/ can come together and sing nothing but praise about a game. SJWs tried to bring it down but the sales don't lie, Dragons Crown was a great success, and was, or rather still is, tons of fucking fun

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Why is playing this fucking game so relaxing holy shit.

I just lie down, pick my Amazon and go release the meatgrinder on some fools in the labyrinth.

>mfw the entire time

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>>258916543
>implying 35-45 women cant be playful or sexy

best be joshing me kickelf! I will fight you in the street!

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>>258917026
>Elf's face when rolling away

So how far into the Tower of Mirage have you guys got? Are you excited to experience shit like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4savGv8dg

>>258916227
>>258916704
the extra narrator voices is english only? or both?

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>>258916498
>YFW Ultimate Rabbit
>immune to Gravity/Slow
>Ice Prison makes him flip his shit
>constantly digging underground and dropping dead knights all over the fucking place

I think the soundtrack is really fucking good.

The Harpy and Gazer boss themes are the best.

And the Castle of the Dead theme feels like it draws heavily from La Danse Macabre, which I think is awesome.

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>>258917408

>just beat Infernal and get on Ultimate
>clear first three stages with flying colors
>mfw fourth stage boss

Reminder to support Vanillaware in every way shape and form. Buy Muramasa, buy all the DLC for Muramasa, buy Dragons Crown. This company needs more output and damn it I'm going to help.

>>258917861

>support Vanillaware
>buy games from storefronts

bitch please you should be buying body pillows

>>258918121
>Amazon dakimakura
>Doesn't fit on any bed

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>>258918121
>Elf dakimakura
>legs split into two pillows

Now I can sleep between her legs

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>>258918712

>>258918861
Wrong thread, too many tabs open.

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>>258918952
gg fgt

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>>258919128
Elf a qt

>>258916897

I find the passive MP gain from absorb to be useful. It's not always safe to suddenly concentrate to the point of overcharge if you're being mobbed.

>>258917194

Well Amazon is pretty easy mode. Not as much as Fighter though.

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>>258919281
>Oh boy we cant wait to eat a person

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>>258919539
>not fucking a harpy

>tfw gargoyle gate solo
FUCK that never again

Fucking Gazer

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>>258919934
>find a human male to make babies with
>feeds human male to babies

>>258917013
No she sounds a bit mature for 17...

But yeah that's the issue I have with english voices on jap games, you see a cute girl that sounds like an adult woman trying to sound like a cute girl it's off putting to say the least. Japanese VA may be over 25 or whatever but damn do their voices sound fitting for the characters

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>>258919934
at least she put out before disemboweling him

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>>258920178
>Gazer midboss
>Gazer floor boss
>Gazer again on the next floor
Fuck soloing Lab/Tower as a Sorc or Wiz.

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>>258920178
>Fighting him for the first time
>As sorceress

my wallet lost a few pounds that day

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>>258920291
It's a joke about her VA

>>258920291
I hate Japanese Elf. The rest are fine but Jap elf is shit. English Dwarf is weaker, but I'd say English Fighter and Sorceress are the ones that are MOST superior to the japanese ones

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>>258920701
>Hating on Imai-san

>>258920859
She's unnaturally shrill. Take your animu shit and shove it.

>>258920978
She's very softly spoken

How do I into amazon?

>>258921264
Spin and shockwave

>>258919502
how do you fight Medusa (ToM) with her though, fucker keeps moving from side to side and I can only damage her with air spin and when she comes down with power smash, she's such an annoyance.

Toughest boss fights on Ultimate??

For me Medusa
Golem with human players surprisingly since they wander off and leave Ally Golem to be destroyed early
Cyclops IF I don't manage to kill the first time the hand pops out of the gate (the rest is easy since I can power smash it away)
Arch demon alone holy shit those flying blue demons
Demon Lord
Ancient Dragon

>>258921176
Are you fucking with me?

>enter room with 4 elves
>obtain deafening retard anime schoolgirl shrieks nonstop

>>258920090
I don't find it that hard with amazon, it eats up your equipment though since you have to keep hitting stuff..but you get help from knights

I don't know if should bother hitting the gate or just stick to the cannon, it's weird how sometimes there's only two cannonballs yet some other I can see three

>>258920656
she 17!?

Do people hate fighters online or something? Every time I join a party I feel like everyone bails.

I've got party shield and everything.

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>>258923949

>>258916543
>Implying that a 34-35 women isn't sexy as fuck
Get some taste bro

>>258924365

Great sorrow.

>>258921264
depends on lvl

my suggestion would be:

S Weapons with Bonus dmg as, freeze or petrify, less dmg taken, crit +, power smash dmg, one for anti demon/dragon

Equipment with less dmg taken and less knockback/down focus

Max Stun wave, Brutal Drive, War Paint, Adrenaline, Androit Hands, Incite Rage, Punisher, Brandish, Deep pockets (for ToM to equip Seal of Conqueror or a defense potion if you don't have more than 2 SoC)

3 points in parry, 2 lvls on evasion, min max on Berserk Deadly Revolution Vitality and the rest

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>>258924501
Don't worry. Everyone is tsun for Fighter

>>258923949
You just have shit luck. The only reason people dislike fighter is because his playstyle amounts to little more than mashing Tempest on everything always.

>>258924409
Probably not the issue you're right, her japanese voice seems more fitting for the design of the character, she seems out of it english, disengaged, the japanese one is playful/sexy less serious/boring

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>>258923949
>>258924365

>be elf
>get in online group for floor 10 demon king
>mfw the warrior died so many times his resurrect cost went up to 63k
>mfw he couldn't come back while everyone else went on to beat the fight

>>258924923
Which reminds me. Is this the official Dragons Crown manga? Are people translating it? I hope so

I recently just beat my first amazon run and unlocked hard mode.

I'm missing alot of art pieces for side quests, do they unlock with difficulty or different characters?

Whats the difference with hard mode, health sponges, enemy count, boss forms?

Would it be more fun to playthrough the other classes before jumping onto hard?

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>>258924923
>boobsitting amazon
>peaceful end to harpy fight
>dorf is bad ass boob lover
>all these other little character moments

Im liking this manga more and more

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>>258925545
Yes, don't know.

>>258926045
I found something on google
http://nihongogo.com/author/tamagod-sushi/page/2/

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>>258926589
Neat.

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>>258926589
Hnng

I want to force myself onto the Elf

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>>258927293
I want Amazon to force herself onto me

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>>258927293
You are free to try

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>>258927146

>>258927560
>wizard isn't manly enough to get his own panel
O-Okay

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>>258927760
F O E

>>258927560
Why is Dwarf tall?

>>258927560
I love how fighter seems to be holding Gut's Dragonslayer with a single hand.

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>>258927975
Maybe next time

>>258928120
I don't know. Why is Elf almost the same height as Fighter?

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>>258927549
We all want her to anon

>>258928389
Why is Sorceress so fucking cute while doing everything?

>>258927760
Jesus, imagine if they added mini bosses like the F.O.E.

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>>258928705

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>>258928705
Magic

>>258928389
>fighter can't even fit into the room
Oh, fighter

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>>258926589
I love this perverted Elf

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>>258928705
Sorceress is basically Okusan

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You know, I really like how the community has created a some really good stuff about Dragon's Crown. Just like with EO, it akes my hearth warm

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>>258930531
I miss Matsu.

>>258929732
>tfw I know that feel

I can't fit in most of my friend's cars.

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>>258930182
>Left dumbell weights lying around
>Bumped toe on one in the dark

Fuck bumping toes man

How long is this game?
I got to that cave level with the genie boss and pirates then I got kinda bored and stop.
Should I continue?

>>258927560
Why is Elf swole?

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>>258931028
Yes, yes you should

>>258930980
>Leave dumbell on the ground.
>Step on it in the dark.
>Almost open my head slipping.

Fitness can actually kill you.

>>258931192
Well I'm convinced. First thing in the morning cause I'm so convinced. But now I need to sleep.

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>>258931028
your about 40% done the normal difficulty then. It really opens up once you hit the 50% mark
>boss count doubles
>you can chain dungeons
>access to food minigame
>power leveling new characters becomes a breeze see >>258892361
>online becomes available

>>258931028
The game really picks up once you get to the talisman hunt. Everything before that is basically a tutorial designed to say "We want to make sure you know how to play the fuckin game before we turn you loose on the community".

>>258881071

>that feel when you'll never be the drunk fairy.

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>>258931617
Yet kick elves still run free.

>>258932052
I never said it was a successful endeavour.

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>>258932052
>mfw trying to discuss with my cousin why being a kickelf is a bad idea
they are impossible to reason with

>playing the game for the first time
>want to play as everyone
>beat the ancient dragon
>credits roll
>loose all motivation to keep playing

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>>258932395
But deadly boots gives you a whopping 180 damage at level 10! It's so totally worth the stat investment.

>>258915325
He's been playing again lately. Graphiteknight I believe, usually a Fighter in Ultimate.

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>>258932712
Im going to enjoy seeing the red Dragon splat you across the wall

>>258885030
The recent hype is probably from it being free on PS Plus, so you actually bought it at a good time if you like coop.

>>258895854
if my dick doesn't split her in half, then sure.

>>258930653
I'm here.

>>258932951
Nah. I just happened to get back into it and have been pushing threads a lot lately. I've started almost 80% of the ones I've seen in the past week. and I'm a NEET who lurks, so I think I know what's what.

Level with me. How bad is Fighter? I just picked up the game and it says it's a good beginner class. I know that to be slang for "easy to master but shit".

>>258906220
oh god, what are him and doug doing these days?
hope they are still pwning noobs in canada.

>>258933552
He's plenty strong and fairly fun... Just make sure to get into using his shield abilities because otherwise your best and only move is to spam tempest blade and that's boring.

>>258890906
I love how even the ghosts in this game have the most amazing tits.

>>258933748
So he's all about the blocking?

>>258933741
they stream on twitch a bit and they're working on Pure Pwnage: Teh Movie. It's been slow and the production is troubled

>>258891413
This reminds me of the good old days when games were actually more difficult with more than one player because you had to coordinate with each other.

>>258933873
That the only gimmick he's got other than some strong support powers. Don't be afraid to mash tempest blade, but yoiun should try to work blocking in too, especially for the atk buff he gets for it.

>>258933873
He's the hybrid offensive and support character. He can deal a good amount of damage, but he also offers protective options for the rest of the party.

>>258917217
sauce?

>>258934064
>>258934112
So when I play Fighter, I should be blocking often and covering my party with skills and then doing tempest blade when the enemy is open?

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>>258934173
cute wives doing cute things

>>258934331
If you're playing with a party that aren't playing as if they were doing solo mode with extra people on-screen, yes.

>>258931054
from drawing back that string so much.
thats why her arms have veins bigger than fingers.

How do I not suck in multiplayer anons? I play elf but I might wanna branch out

>>258934460
If the rest of the party is just going apeshit, I should feel free to go apeshit, huh?

>>258934372

But this has NTR.

>>258934737
You might as well. Keep an eye out for people trying to pull off some kind of strategy, though, and prove you're useful by helping people out if they're getting assraped.