Finally you stupid faggots can go make some shitty gmod map to hang out in and pretend you're women. Now you can fuck off of /v/
Oculus isn't the only company doing this shit. Not even the first. The glorious waifu age is still on way.
facebook has agreed to never touch the OR, they are just funding it because they know it will make money. at least allegedly, investments are like gambling, you can win or lose.
Also, they can't watch you fap, unless you plan on pointing the head tracking camera at your dick the whole time like a fucking retard.
you know how say, any major company doesn't want their product to be associated or used in a certain way because bad press.
if there is any way they could stop it, they would.
Facebook has been roosting on a plan for a long time now.
it was over before it began lets just move on
I have a DK2, and I can tell you that the 3d porn in the Rift is just insane. I cannot go back to regular porn now. I am fucking THERE. I am the guy doing the fucking and getting sucked, I see exactly what the porn actor was seeing.
Only problem is I don't have a fleshlight and now my hand just doesn't cut it anymore... I want the sensations too ;_;
TLDR you guys have no idea what's coming. VR porn is the fucking shit.
the team behind the Rift are the ones who handle software and hardware. and even though FB is funding it, there is no way in hell they will let them fb faggots touch their precious VR device. They needed more money, and they got it. that is the entire partnership, nothing more nothing less.
>facebook has agreed to never touch the OR
Why pull statements like that out of your ass?
Also the camera is an IR cam, so unless your dick radiates infrared it won't see you fapping.
Facebook are gigantic jew pieces of shit and I dont think they would miss an opportunity to monetize on a lemonade stand, much less such a big thing like VR - however VR is baby tech and as such cannot be treated like video games are today (where you can make dollar billions through marketing only).
We'll have a grace period of 2-3 years where OR is left alone to unfold its wings and then
facebook will clip off those wings and put it in a nifty blue cage for datamining and monetization
Hopefully the alternatives will grow by then.
I am not pulling it out of my ass, I remember the post vaguely. I am looking for it as I type, and I will post what I find. if I find nothing, then I am sorry I'm a retard. But I seriously doubt that they will just ad fuck you in the ass while you play vidya or do porn related things.
>mfw /v/ did not create a brand new facebook account the moment facebook bought the oculus
Fortune favors the prepared.
The glory of the virtual reality age comes.
Can't find jack didily, I apologize.
I did read just now that gaming is the focus, but didn't say anything specifically after that. It could go either way, but yeah FB is the embodiment of jews. I recommend waiting on the rift for a couple of years and if nothing changes or there are no ads popping up everywhere, then that would be the time to get it.
>Only problem is I don't have a fleshlight and now my hand just doesn't cut it anymore... I want the sensations too ;_;
This is why I feel like VR isn't even close to being worth it yet. If you're having virtual sex, you need to feel the things you're seeing. If you're in a virtual shooter, you need freedom of movement, and actual gun and feedback such as recoil.
For anyone that's used the Omni, do you actually feel free or is the immersion ruined by the fact that you're running on a treadmill?
For those that have used the OR for porn, what does being able to adjust your POV add to the experience besides easier access to immersion? I feel like I can watch regular old porn and get quite immersed as it is by just using my imagination, which you would have to use with the OR anyway.
It is clearly going to be a huge part of the rift's success. Right now few people have even tried regular demos on dk1 and dk2, let alone porn. When the rift gets released it's gonna be huge. There are already websites producing porn content specifically for the rift right now.
Also "anime" characters like Miku in the Rift are uncanny. I tried a demo where Miku is just standing there, looking straight into your eyes and following your head movements and it's really like I have a real person in front of me. NPC interactions are crazy in the rift.
All the waifu fags are damn right to be hyped.
Now you just need those sticks that you hold to control your hands/arm movement. They need those with buttons for all 5 fingers for... certain purposes. Not sure if that is already a thing or not. I know there are sticks that do controls for arms though
I haven't tried the omni, but I disagree with >If you're in a virtual shooter, you need freedom of movement, and actual gun and feedback such as recoil.
Your brain can fake a lot of things even when you don't have all the physical feedback. Rollercoasters and stuff like this in the DK2 does give me the same sensations as the real deal. I experienced the sensation of falling, albeit a bit reduced. It all depends on the experience.
I haven't tried HL2 yet, I'm waiting for proper integration to the dk2 and the release of the STEM or other VR tracking hardware. But I already know it's gonna be by far the best gaming experience I ever had. Everyone who tried HLVR with the Hydra said the same thing.
And don't underestimate the importance of immersion in porn. Now I do want more, but like I said I can't go back to regular 2d porn. Having the girl right in front of you and her tits bounce 5cm away from your face owns any porn I fapped to until now. You have to try it at least.
/v/ is going to be all autistic about this but:
after getting high
now when you say high, do you mean 240blazeitstraightguy, or like some other form of high. because if its the first one, then that is probably going to fuck up way to many people.
I'm guess I should have taken marketer courses then :)
But no, I'm just an excited anon sharing his experience with new and exciting tech.
I can tell you that you should wait for the consumer release though. I mean it. DK2 is amazing but there are lots of kinks that need to be fixed right now, before it's ready for even the enthousiast market. Black smearing, judder, ease of use, software integration, needs better lenses, screen door effect is still there (will be gone for CV1 though), and resolution needs to be at least 1440p (it will be).
All this stuff will be fixed when it's released at least a year from now, and it will be worth the wait. Trust me.
>mfw smoking weed, doing acid and staring through my VR headset
While companies will shy away from open endorsements, it's well-known that any new entertainment technology MUST be endorsed by the porn industry to succeed. Every format war has been decided by porn. Every improvement to video encoding and transmission has been spearheaded by porn. Online credit card transactions? Porn. Secure chat? Porn.
Porn porn porn
Preventing developers from making pornographic applications or media viewers capable of playing pornographic videos for the oculus (or any other stereoscopic device for that matter) would not only be technically impossible and prohibitively expensive, it would spell the death of the technology.
if you tried the DK1, I heard that was a huge problem. Try the DK2 at some point when you get the chance. most people that reported nausea on the DK1 said they had none on the DK2.
I think you guys are kind of missing the point, which is the same one the omni devs and plenty of VR advocated have consistently missed: VR is shit for the kind of games we have now.
Games work best when you have an economy of motion. Big actions are done by small presses, which allows you to play the game without getting tired, and perform feats that would be patently ridiculous in real life. VR controls can't simulate that.
I'm not saying it would be great to play a stereoscopic game with the oculus on with the normal camera angles and controls, I'm just saying that attempts to turn things like aiming, shooting, and running controls into physical actions is not a good idea.
Synced ona-holes and other "Sensory experiences" on the other hand...
if theres hardly any news regarding anything, especially the date of release, then it is probably being hard at work. They literally can't take the money and run being funded by FB and all. They would sue the shit out of team Rift.
DK2 is way better than DK1, which was just a concept. DK2 made me slightly nauseous and gave me a small headache the first day, but it was my first time using a VR device. I didn't experience that since.
Then again nausea is very dependent on software : any movement out of the ordinary is likely to cause nausea if you don't have your "VR legs", even with rock solid hardware. for example climbing stairs backwards, strafing etc
I believe it's because I have one very good eye, and one terrible eye in terms of vision. At the time I tested the OR, I didn't have glasses to correct for this deficiency so I think the problem was just the asynchronous vision when interpreted through the OR.
Still, while fucking awful I will be getting a consumer version of the OR once it comes out.
Can't fucking wait OP, can't fucking wait.
On Gamescom I tried out Morpheus and it was beautiful. Did some Speedboard-shit and it really tricked my brain, got a fucking rush from the speed I was going down the mountain.
Someday I'll be able to be with my waifu and it will feel real for my brain thanks to VR
>There are /v/irgins who committed suicide before the Oculus
They'll never get to lose their virginity to skyrim mods
Yeah, I think I heard there will be the option to get proscription lenses for the rift. Maybe with that option you'll have the visual compensation you'd need to play without getting a massive headache,
I can see things clearly up close, but not far away. I assume this means I won't need to wear glasses or get proscription lenses for the Rift.
>I'm not saying it would be great to play a stereoscopic game with the oculus on with the normal camera angles and controls, I'm just saying that attempts to turn things like aiming, shooting, and running controls into physical actions is not a good idea.
I would have agreed with you before trying ths DK2, but now I understand that VR games and experiences are nothing like 2d monitors, and that it will most likely be a physical experience down the road. I think I'm ready to trade regular games for more physical and engaging games, and HL2 VR should give me a final answer when I will play it.
It is as you must understand a very different notion of fun. It is up to you to decide if it will be your kind of fun or not. But don't knock it before you try it.
Oh, I'm ready alright, goy.
Logging into Facebook will never be the same.
It'd be prohibitively expensive to make prescription lenses for the Rift for myself, as I don't just suffer from nearsightedness/farsightedness but astigmatism as well, which from what I've been told normally doesn't need correction.
I'll probably end up just using contact lenses, or if necessary, get a laser operation to fix my vision.
I got Lasik last december and it was one of the best decisions of my life. The operation was horrible (mainly because I'm a baby when it comes to touching my eyes) but now my vision is at 13/10 left eye, 10/10 right eye. I see much better than I ever did with my glasses, it's absolutely awesome.
but what if it's used inappropriately, you can't shy away from this in this day and age anon.
It's a perfectly valid argument but as a rebuttal, I present to you:
the glorious waifu age
There are no regulations on the matter, and as I said, it would be both technically impossible and prohibitively expensive to attempt to ban pornography on the rift.
Even if facebook went full retard, closed the API, pre-screened all devs they gave the API/documentation to, and added extra hardware to the device to force you to only use applications that are pre-approved by the Facebook app store, there are already multiple open-source drivers for the rift.
Mark my words: there is zero chance that you will be unable to fuck miku hatsune using the rift. It is impossible for anyone to stop it assuming the rift actually does release.
Yess, finally this won't happen anymore.
oh shit. Even more sold
>Capatcha: touching jortbut
Just seems like KB+M might waste the head-tracking potential of the Rift, and games that work well on pads don't lend themselves well to the Rift in my opinion. Very few first-person games are better on a pad.
Right now it's the gamepads. KB+M for some demos. Hydra/STEM/PrioVR is for HL2 and other crazy demos right now, I hope support in more full games will be announced soon.
I mean look at this shit :
Can't fuckin wait to play HL2 VR.
Someone post that article about future plans for oculus facebookization.
these series of inventions will either wipe out the human race, or make it so that only a few hundred males' dna make it to a new generation, resulting eventually in rampant accidental incest amongst the species
facebook somehow turning a simple bit of I/O hardware into a locked down web application tat shares your every fap is a meme, and you are a tech-illiterate mega-faggot.
Facebook has talked about making "social" applications like virtual malls and what would essentially be VR second-life. That's about as far as the "facebookization" goes.
>miss your target with a sex spell
>it hits this guy
>Every improvement to video encoding and transmission has been spearheaded by porn
That's just wrong. They pick the most widespread and supported shit.
They're all .wmv files with a shitty bitrate.
>breed group of people with the sole intention of letting them live their whole lives in virtual reality unbeknownst
>they develope virtual reality inside that virtual reality and breed a group of people with the sole intention of letting them live their lives in VR.
>this is an endless loop
You are in one of those "realities".
we are already in a VR system right now
If our reality really is virtual, I'd always imagined us living in an old, dusty computer in an abandoned warehouse, long forgotten and left to lie dormant forever.
It's a sign, that's what it is. You just got yourself a ticket out of here. Rub the lamb, anon.
Get out of here. Live your life, for the sake of us who are yet trapped here.
>still living with parents
>not living with GF who will enhance the experience
The idea is that, even with quantum computers, there are only so many layers down you could go before the original machine is incapable of simulating any further layers.
So the chance that you are in a simulation in a quantum computer is 1/<possible # of layers>
>We're in a virtual reality
>The only right thing to do is kill our and all other virtual realities
Or we're in a reality so advance, thanks to some insanely lucky equation and the ones running the simulation are using us for ideas. Like, we're extremely spontaneous and random, so we can come up with stuff that our creators couldn't even begin to imagine. They hear us come up with jazz, H.R Giger stuff,
autofellatioand they take it.
I'm very tired, but I hope my message come across, albeit crudely.
Why can't it be 50 years in the future when we finally get AI that can fully imitate human conversation?
even the lewd kind
Give me the OR + that + sync'd onahole and a body suit to simulate touch and I won't ever leave my room again
Reminds me of my fear of real life glitch if we were to live in a Matrix.
Imagine crossing a road safely then suddenly lags teleports you back on the road and you die.
>in the VR world, ponytails vibrate
>VR out-of-bounds in a 3D environnement
>endlessly falling into a empty, flat-colored and bottomless box
I'm hoping the CV1 will have a good enough resolution to make this viable. At least for regular use.
Lot of people leaning forward in the video, because of the shitty position of the monitors, btw.
No, you know what you need?
>The face-tracking software
And then you get that dildo/fleshlight set that connects over Wi-Fi and do that thing where when one is being used, the other starts moving as well.
Bam, long-distance cosplay sex.
It's going to stick now, no matter what is said and done. Even if the CV1 comes out and the Tinfoils search every bit of it for trojans and datamining but find nothing, they'll just make something up or blame regular functions like a software updater.
The paranoia is partly why the notion is so stupid. It's not like Facebook are going to sneak this stuff in unnoticed.
>go to 4chan
>start up a random simulation
>extremely loud screamer with gay genital mutilation accompanied with "FUCK WEEABOOS" or "YIFF IN HELL" while robo-vagina spazzes the fuck out
Nah, that's not how they work, I don't think. It's just that when one gets used, the other lights up and starts warming up.
It would be nice if they made a set that sensed the texture of genitalia and altered the other to match. You stick your dick in the onahole and the dildo changes itself to match your dick's shape.
If they cut out the positional headtracking, It probably wouldn't be that hard for the dev to rerender the office stuff in stereoscopic.
But then, that's assuming the engine it uses can even deal with stereoscopic sprites.
I've done acid before with some students. They always have someone to calm you down if you having a bad trip. A qt came by and
held my handfor the entire trip surisingly she's a programmer and works for BMW HQ in Munich we meet from time to time
but I think she really likes me for my JFK impressions - Once I got shitfaced and memorized the entire "Moonshot" speech. Fuck everyone at the entire campus opened windows and listened
Weird mix I'm a main accountant to book my father investments she's a programmer with a job. Just dealers and other people not interested.
We discussed VR and waifus on number of occasions and I hope when the dream comes true we will both abandon this 3dpd universe and she will hold my hand once again.
>go to 4chan with the VR feature turned on
>small groups of naked neckbeards either suck each other off or punch the shit out of each other
No, this was the case that pretty much everyone who was hyped for it realized that it was dead. I honestly didn't expect Facebook to hire marketers here, but I guess I was wrong.
>3 days later baby dies of starvation covered in shit
>go to /v/ in OR mode
>a bunch of fat sweaty neckbeards yelling SUMMERFAG at each other and clutching their children's toys while 4 marketers in suits toss them pieces of paper describing why each of them is right and everyone else is wrong, so buy this
Thats the good thing about european. Theres no point in moving out because I study in a piss expensive town.
Why would a person even move out if he doesnt have to or has to put up with retarded siblings? European culture in terms of family is really different to the US'. Its pretty weird.
>jackin it to some VR chick
>realize that no matter how much money you save it's not the same thing
>finally have the courage to go out into the world
>all unsatisfied chicks are using VR dildo machines
>all satisfied chicks would never go for you
>you have created that which you have always assumed to already be
>a world you cannot get laid
little girl simulator comes around
live as a little girl doing cute things
never put the OR down
you literally wake up as the little girl each day
true happiness achieved
Quietly die in your sleep because of dehydration
I hope the future doesn't end up being so far away.
I'm European and I moved out because it sucks to live with your parents. They're almost always bossy and will constantly judge you throughout your life if you continue to live with them.
That and you'll never be able to plow a girl as loud as you want at home.
But think of the benefits.
They already said the lens on the Rift make your eyes focus to 'infinity', which is healthier for your eyes than starring at a monitor closely all day.
Plus with no screen, you're not leaning forward to get the best view and instead turning your head regularly. Your postures going to improve a lot.
>I can finally live my dream of giving free blowjobs to random people on the internet without even leaving my room or risking STDs
facial capt technology demo purple demon woman is muh waifu
I called it! You can't take her from me now!
>not getting GF to suck you off while getting VR blowjob from Miku.
I need my Elf, Minotaur raping simulator bad.
Shit, I'm away from home where I have my mike - It usually sounds like this : " For earth has to move fowah, as our generations to come - light the flame of hope, again. For we must never loose faith in yourself the courage we gather, strength and endurance will not be forgotten in the history of mankind, this is the ultimate sacrifice to knowledge and faith that we humans still can live in peace and agreement "
I love inspiring people - especially live. Believe it or not some people still tell me some frat boys cried and started learning
Note that it was during the finals, people needed some cheering, perspective a vision that they will be building our world. To try and try until they succeed. Whatever the cost
>facebook has Oculus Rift
>google has Atlas
How long do you think until a shota dating simulator is made?
When I'm gonna be back home - I'm gonna vocaroo that shit for you guys
>All the dreams we have about VR will never come true
at least not in our lifetimes
>Accidentally wander into the wrong tea party
Muh freedoms! burgerland truly is full of fre- oh wait a minute that url...
epic shite mates we told them yan- them c-chavs.
it was never funny by the way
>Kurzweil predicts the singularity to occur around 2045 whereas Vinge predicts some time before 2030. At the 2012 Singularity Summit, Stuart Armstrong did a study of artificial general intelligence (AGI) predictions by experts and found a wide range of predicted dates, with a median value of 2040. Discussing the level of uncertainty in AGI estimates, Armstrong said in 2012, "It's not fully formalized, but my current 80% estimate is something like five to 100 years."[
I don't think you realize how fast porn companies work.
sure the more unique VR porn will take a while to set up due to modders being new to the devices, but with things like kickstarter and general internet donations, I'm sure things will get good in like 10-15 years time.
It's coming but it'll probably won't be with the Oculus Rift or with any proprietary HMD. Nips hate facebook and social media in general, they might port it over after the fact but the games themselves will be made for normal PC users first and foremost. No point in making games specifically for hardware that almost nobody owns and it doesn't help that almost all of development community and documentation for VR is in English.
We've been looking at porn on flat 2d screens without positional or eye tracking for decades now, interactive porn doesn't need it to b successful.
I would stream it but I got banned on twitch for streaming it last time, the sad thing is we only got like 14 minutes into the movie.
Now I can't even watch streams on twitch anymore, fucking jews
>mfw people will get tired of this VR stuff just like they get tired of everything else and no amount of shallow escapism will ever fill that void in your heart
Won't stop me from trying, though.
I doubt VR is something people will get tired of. Too many applications are popping up for it and if the consumer model has cameras, you probably won't even have to block out the real world to use it.
>mfw this becomes a really big thing
>Women become obsolete
>This plays all day,everyday on /r9k/
I don't mean tired of as in it's a fad, I can definitely see it becoming a permanent facet of contemporary, first-world life and whatnot. I just mean that everybody's like "oh man time to get utterly immersed in my waifu-boning simulator, nothing will ever be the same!" Except you'll get burnt out on it like you get burnt out on everything else, and it won't be enough.
Err...you do realize the rift has the same compatibility as any other stereoscopic system, right? They don't need to build it for the rift, you can translate axis movement and rotation into mouse movements or whatever the equivalent keyboard commands for the camera are.
What is the point? You'd just get an error message. If you want a HMD without a camera for positional tracking there are DIY solutions out there that are cheaper, have a larger field of view on both axises, higher resolution and built in eye tracking. Just go on the VR wiki and take your pick.
You're not the only one that finds it creepy that they added an unnecessary camera to it and won't be using it for porn or at all.
Do you realize they won't care considering the tiny market segment, people who own an OR and are willing to pay for erotic games featuring animu characters?
Building a game for the rift means rendering the scene twice for both eyes and completely redoing the camera system with higher and stable framerates for head tracking and a new UI since it's only an inch away from your face, it's not as simple as adding it in as an afterthought.
>inb4 sandwich making machine
They still can't offer you
>Do you realize they won't care
...my whole point is they don't have to.
>Building a game for the rift means rendering the scene twice for both eyes and completely redoing the camera system with higher and stable framerates for head tracking and a new UI
No...no it isn't.
The two renders can be done in literally any 3D program, it doesn't require any special programming. Certain shortcuts and render methods might cause things to render incorrectly or at the wrong distances, but this is rarely an issue.
You do not have to "completely redo the camera system," and as stated you can translate the head tracking into traditional inputs.
On top of all that, japanese porn games are often modded to hell and back, it would be trivial to disable the UI or change the UI to fit the rift, assuming any changes are needed at all.
No it couldn't. Love is a human emotion. No robot no matter how advanced is ever going to care about you or anything that happens unless it's told to react and talk AS IF it cared about you (which it never will - EVER).
I don't think you understand the basic concept of AI. That or you're one of those faggots who buys into the "quantum microtubules" nonsense and thinks there's something magical or special about the human brain/CNS
>redoing the camera system with higher and stable framerates for head tracking and a new UI since it's only an inch away from your face
Or you can just control camera with mouse and use OR as monitor.
Why are you so sure that it wouldn't care about me?
What if I'm the only social contact of said AI?
It wouldn't have an alternative to liking me.
Ever heard of Stockholm-syndrome?
Our consciousness is just a clusterfuck of electrical signals, there's nothing stopping an AI from obtaining that same consciousness. It won't happen anytime soon since the brain is just that complex, but you can't say it won't ever happen.
Robots don't feel. They don't have brain or body chemistry. They don't "care" about anything since that's a human concept that even some humans are void of (Psychopaths). They are 1s and 0s and always will be.
You've been watching too many movies, Anon.
Have you ever tried running those games, much less modding them?
They're a pain in the ass to get running smoothly and are very poorly optimized. You have to double the rendering and it does require special processing for many more reasons than the ones you've stated such as depth of field and the degree of FOV. And on top of all that you need improved framerates for realistic motion.
VR development isn't a walk in the park as you describe it, it's still in the beta stage for a reason. Go to the MTBS3D forums to see all the issues that surrounds the development of VR games.
You're wrong because you don't actually get how an AI could work and regurgitate what you've seen or read in SciFi movies and books.
One approach to AI could be to just simulate neurons of a human brain. Obviously such an AI wouldn't have any problems with love because it'd be the same as a human, just made "artificially" from different base materials.
The only problem with that is there's no point in creating it - other than scientific curiosity - since it suffers from the same problems that humans suffer from.
But it's entirely feasible that people will come up with an AI that combines the best of humanity with the best of computers.
I just want to pop in here to say that that's bullshit. You claim
>No robot no matter how advanced
If sufficiently advanced we could map the entire brain to an AI, like
mentioned, and at that point AI could develop emotions and feelings.
But that's so far in the future that it won't matter. Currently AI is too stupid to even play a simple RTS.
>they don't have body or brain chemistry
Well, first of all, yes they do. Just because it's the chemistry of a computer doesn't mean they somehow exist outside of physics.
Second, your argument that 0s and 1s "can't feel" is asinine. Atoms can't feel either, and you're made up of atoms. Does that mean you can't feel? Look up "emergent property."
The goal of AI and human brain emulation is to fully simulate the internal mechanisms of the brain, which would necessarily entail emotion.
>Robots don't feel. They don't have brain or body chemistry. They don't "care" about anything since that's a human concept that even some humans are void of (Women).
>Have you ever tried running those games, much less modding them?
Yes, I play illusion games all the time. Mod them too.
>they're a pain in the ass to get running smoothly
Maybe if you're retarded and can't figure out region settings
>you have to double the rendering
No, your functional framerate is halved. There is a difference.
>it does require special processing
Yes, processing done by the video card which has been around and standard for fucking ages. It requires nothing special on the part of the devs to function.
>you need improved framerates
Improved over what? You're talking about a fucking hardware issue you nonce.
Besides, your entire argument is moot because devs like Illusion have already begun working with Rift.
You're all pretty desperate fucks if you think you're gonna get a computer to like you. Love and emotion overall is an organic and human thing. You can create an A.I to learn how to pretend to feel but it can't feel and doesn't really care about anything unless you design it to. It's all simulation, emulation, imitation.
It doesn't have "interests". An A.I system wouldn't even care about surviving unless you told it to. It's only in its best "interest" if you programmed it to be, and at that point you might as well program it to "love" you and cut out the middle-man bullshit.
Properly programmed AI will love you more than any human ever. For example if you ever cared about characters in movies/anime/etc then you can care about AI character too, of course that kind of immersion is impossible without good writers, voice actors, etc.
>More shit that will make western men have less children
Geez man, your posts reek of highschool philosophy.
Your posts don't sound deep, you don't even have arguments to support the statements you are making
You're not this stupid, but you're sure as shit trying.
You might be more at home on /x/
What do you think humans are made of? Some magical substance of emotion? Our brain works by just sending electrical charges through nodes, and with sufficient technology this could be directly replicated with absolutely no difference.
On a different note, you have to wonder where the line is when talking about what it means to care. We were all biologically conditioned to want sex; Do we really care about sex just because we were created this way?
>You're all pretty desperate fucks if you think you're gonna get a computer to like you
>Love and emotion overall is an organic and human thing.
Prove it. And don't point to my computer and say it doesn't love me, my computer isn't an AI.
We don't have true AI, so currently you're like the faggots who were going ERMAGERD IF PEOPLE RUN 2 FAST THEY DIEEE DDDDDDDD:!!!1! before being proven to be utter retards. Or the faggots screeching about the LHC creating a black hole that would destroy the earth.
You're making baseless claims. Why the fuck do you think we're not taking you seriously if not for that reason right there.
You're either a legitimate idiot or a dedicated troll. You seem to have this weird idea that anything made out of silicon can only take orders, like it's a fundamental property of the element or something.
A perfect simulation of a human is indistinguishable from a human. It is a human as far as anyone who doesn't believe in metaphysical bullshit is concerned.
Thanks to political correctness the west is dead anyway.
I'll just watch it burn with my waifu
It's not even about /v/irgins and betas
>27 year old cousing
>rich as fuck
>Doesn't want to get married or have kids
>Pal studies Business at MIT
>Really has chance to break out and become something
>Is the smartest person I know
>Doesn't plan to ever get wife or Children
>Great adventurous guy, can support a family, goes on yacht trips a lot etc.
>is 31 and still hasn't got a family
ARE WE GOING TO DIE OUT? IS IT TRUE?
Isn't it true that smart and successful people are less likely to have children? Or was that just something about first-world countries because of education and birth control?
So which older games would you like to play in VR, either through native support or third party?
Personally want to play DX:HR. It already has stereoscopic support, which is the biggest hurdle in conversions. If they can make the view and mouse aim independent, it would help a lot.
It's a pretty interesting phenomenon.
I guess it's a variation of what is happening in Japan.
Japan is suffering from overpopulation and POOF, people suddenly don't care about relationships anymore, adult diapers are selling more than infant ones.
It's some kind of mechanism in the human collective, I dunno how to explain how it works either.
Because look at Robin Williams. He bet two different women half his stuff that they wouldn't leave him and they'd be able to have a happy life with their kids.
He was wrong both times. He was almost wrong a third.
Women are fucking disgusting. Why do you want this? Ignore the filename, I use this to troll white feminists while pretending to be a black man.
>Maybe if you're retarded and can't figure out region settings
Confirmed for never having played these games, they run like shit even when properly running on high end hardware. It's been a common complaint for over a decade now with 3d Japanese Eroge games and even the FAQs on hentai game communities like HongFire forums mentions this issue.
So okay, what if computer will call 911 when you will be hurt? It cares about me.
If i will be in depression she would give me fellatio and inject drugs in my body. It cares about me.
Of course its pretending, but why pretending is bad? If its realistic i would buy AI like that and be happy, atleast it cant cheat on you because there is no concept of betraying in her or you can program it to cut intruder's dick off.
There is this one animal, I think it was a rat type thing, and the genitals of the males literally shrink back until they're inside their bodies again if there's overpopulation.
But, most other Western countries don't suffer from overpopulation and still have abysmal birth rates. Not good.
I can (and do) care about them, but they won't (and can't) care about me
You are desperate, just look at the mental gymnastics you're having to do in order to think that a circuit board will ever feel anything.
Because that's what we've said "love" is. A feeling that human (and other animals) are capable of experiencing for things. Whatever an A.I does will only imitate it and only eve happen by design.
>you seem to have this weird idea that anything made out of silicon can only take orders
It's a weird idea because it's a fact? Not a machine on earth that doesn't do what it's told. Even errors are always human errors in code or hardware malfunctions.
>Your posts don't sound deep, you don't even have arguments to support the statements you are making
Well I don't give a shit about sounding deep, just here to tell it how it is.
>you don't even have arguments to support the statements you are making
>Love is an emotion
>It's limited to organic, sentient beings.
That compeltely rules out any A.I EVER having feelings, love or otherwise. Whatever else fucking star-trek level of technology you think we're ever going to live long enough to get to is not even worth mentioning. Whatever an extremely advanced A.I has, even if it's the same outcome of expression of love, it's not technically love, it's something new. And that would be pretty trippy... but still not feelings as we know and classify them.
>Because some people think Idiocracy will happen.
The world's gonna go to shit a lot faster than in Idiocracy. Either way I'd rather not subject my potential children to the messes we leave behind. I have no sense of moral obligation to propogate or protect the species as a whole.
I've never run into a problem, but I also stick with Illusion for 3D games. I don't go for the super-niche stuff. I've explained at length why you're mistaken about games needing to be programmed specifically for the rift. You're wrong. Sorry. Better luck next time.
We're not that strong, niggah.
That's why I said some variation of it.
Maybe this mechanism noticed that we are slowly are becoming a threat to the earth.
Which of course is total bullshit which only a teenage vegan girl would utter seriously
Quick question for you genius: The human brain can feel emotion, yes? And as chemicals and atoms and electrical impulses themselves cannot individually "feel," this must therefore be an emergent property, yes?
If this is so, would you not agree that a perfectly emulated brain could feel?
Other good idea would be the Deadspace series. Since the 'hud' is in the game space, it's perfect for VR. The camera would just be your floating head following and orbiting Issac with the regular controls.
Oh fuck, arguing with you is hopeless.
You always spit out the same arguments and say that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
You just don't get it.
Go back to your Breakfast Club at your Highschool or something
>"You are desperate, just look at the mental gymnastics you're having to do in order to think that a circuit board will ever feel anything."
>feelings are a product of our brains and consciousness
>our brains and consciousness are a result of millions of electrical signals firing off and interacting with each other
>computers are capable of millions of electrical signals firing off and interacting with each other
Address this you fuckface.
>>More shit that will make western men have less children
It won't through, anti-social stigma barrier the Normalfags between /v/irgins is one of the many reasons why western world hasn't deal with birth rate problems. Tech Industry had to fucking becoming fashionable and dumb down their tech to get people buy their shit, just look at Apple for example.
The VR has to be social acceptable to be wide spread, western society won't think a porn machine is normal.
>Because that's what we've said "love" is.
And we said the Earth was flat you fucking mongoloid. We've said the sun rotates the earth. We said the Milky Way was Hera's breast milk. That the sun requires sacrifice to rise. That there is a jolly fat man rewarding good behaviour in kids. That there was a demon who threw the bad ones in a sack. That we could never fly. That we could never reach space. That World War One would end all war. That dynamite was so destructive it'd end all war. That nuclear warheads were so destructive that they'd end all war. We've said a lot of things.
BUT WE SAID! is not an argument you dense shit.
>Humans convince themselves love is anything more than chemical reactions in the brain to coerce animals to procreate
>This means robots can't be programmed to love
You can program a person to love
I can finally be alone with mai waifu and fleshlight.
I'm actually developing a demo where you have to use the DK2 positional tracking use a peephole to spy on various anime grills changing in a gym locker room. Thank you based Unity for the tutorials.
Goodbye real world!
He's wrong, but that's a terrible argument.
The right way to attack his argument is to say that he's operationally defining "love" as human, which is not a definition anyone else agrees with, and is one that defeats the purpose of asking the question "can an AI love" rather than addressing it.
Honestly I can't wait to see feminists and attention whores react to this.
This is your future, /v/.
The thing is that he seems to be saying that at some points, but not at others. He has no consistent argument, it's just reiterated "morals" you hear at the end of dumb SciFi movies.
I hate the guy who made this PV so much.
He just doesn't get it, he raped Miku continously for 4 years so that he can self-insert in his tsundere-Miku-fantasy-video.
I-I'll just wait for the CV, enjoy your unfinished product n-nerd
>natural earth cycles
It's coming and there's nothing we can do it about it.
>>computers are capable of millions of electrical signals firing off and interacting with each other
>Address this you fuckface.
They work entirely on 1s and 0s. They're binary, there's no grey area, no maybe - it's yes or no. On or off. Humans don't work like that.
> electrical signals firing off and interacting with each other
I was speaking about semantics you dumb shit, not about knowledge.
So explain how the fuck being organic matters. Do carbon atoms have some magical property that silicon doesn't?
It matters because they're different. That's all they need to be to change the definition of whatever theoretical "feeling" you think an A.I can have.
Characteristics of emotion:
>psychophysiological expressions, biological reactions and mental states.
All only capable of happening inside an organic brain. Robots and A.I don't have expressions or biological reactions or moods.
The animation is so jerky. I mean the art looks nice, but even South Park is more fluid. I don't know how people can get off to this without pausing at one of the four frames of animation per scenario.
I can feel Terminators
I think they were called T-100 or 1000s?coming closer and closer to reality.
>A single eroge company released a few demos for the OR so you're wrong.
Yeah okay, we'll both see who is proven right in a few years as for now we can only speculate. Eroge games that can be played by tens of millions made by a single hobbyist as seen here >>258562071 or companies spending a lot more money making much more complex games that can only be played by a small segment of gamers with the right hardware. Both of them will exist but I'm saying that the later is an incredibly niche market that isn't going to explode with advent of VR.
>They're binary, there's no grey area, no maybe - it's yes or no. On or off. Humans don't work like that.
1) While humans obviously do not work based on transistors, they do work on physics. There is no magic in the brain, it is biochemistry prompting electrical impulses.
2) The state of a transistor (what you're ignorantly calling "1's and 0's") is representational in nature. They can be used to accurately represent real objects and interactions, hence "simulation."
>All only capable of happening inside an organic brain
Currently, and that's because we don't have a perfectly emulated brain yet.
>It matters because they're different. That's all they need to be to change the definition of whatever theoretical "feeling" you think an A.I can have.
You're committing the fallacy of composition. Whether it comes from a tuba or a saxophone or a guitar, a C# is a C#. The musical note is an emergent property, not an intrinsic part of the components of the instrument. In the same way emotion is an emergent property of the functions of the brain, not intrinsic to the chemicals that make up the brain.
If one were to perfectly emulate the brain on silicon, and that simulated brain were to perfectly recreate the complex emergent state of experiencing an emotion, there is no reason to define it as anything else.
Your argument is both purely semantic and asinine. I'm not sure which is worse.
You can't just ignore every other point someone makes and pretend like your idiotic assumptions about the difficulty of rift compatibility are correct.
Also, your original post was saying that virtual sex wouldn't be on OR or come out of Japan, so a Japanese eroge OR demo explicitly refutes your assertion.
T-101 was the Arnold model we all know. Standard combat chassi with optional advanced A.I (that was sent to John in T2) or simple combat module that were sent out on the battlefields during the war in platoons.
T-1000 was the liquid metal model that tried to kill Conor in T2. It was better at disguises, could mimick human emotion much better than the 101 model, could disguise its entire body and withstand more damage as well as reach more places by entering its liquid phase.
We're still miles away from a 101-type model, honestly. There's also no real reason to have such combat-capable machines on ground-level. All the tech is in the sky with satellites and drones. Control that and you can murderise the fuck out of anyone you want from your bed with a keyboard.
So your entire argument boils down to how a computer's consciousness would be different in composition and therefore not fit your own personal narrowly-defined version of emotion?
>Do a better one then.
Such infantile logic.
You don't have to be a Master Chef to be able to tell what shit tastes like. And that Miku animation is liquid shit.
The idea of robotic AI using human-like bodies for war is retarded, there's no reason to replicate the human skeletal system and musculature when you could just as easily control a flying gun with a camera
>Whether it comes from a tuba or a saxophone or a guitar, a C# is a C#
But emotion isn't as simple as that. Love for example isn't just a single effect or sound like C# is. People express love in all kinds of ways and feel them to different extremities and for different reasons... there's no more or less intense C# and there's only a set amount of ways you can achieve it. There's no end to how many reasons a person might feel love for someone/thing.
>Your argument is both purely semantic and asinine. I'm not sure which is worse.
Just face the fact that you're not gonna get your Miku to really give a shit about you no matter what way you spin it or how many
science-fiction movies you watch.
Just pointing out that it likely took a long time to make.
I don't even like that weeb garbage
>not fit your own personal narrowly-defined version of emotion
Yeah because I totally made up the definition of emotion.
Does anybody here have any experience with this thing? Is the developer version any good?
>Smith denied using the images for sexual gratification or having a sexual interest in ‘pre-pubescent’ children, saying: 'I hate them. I’d machine gun them all.'
The issue with the animation is that it's full of amateur mistakes not only the jerkiness. He tried to do many very complex scenes that even an experienced animator would have trouble with unless he was using a rotoscoping technique.
After 5 years of working on that the guy could probably make something similar in half the time with twice the quality.
The ones that will be the heralds of the Waifu age are going to be hobbyists doing things established companies can't because of intellectual property laws. The revolution has already started and VR isn't even worth a mention. That platform will have a few eroge games sure but the real scene has nothing to do with VR and is going it's own way.
>The ones that will be the heralds of the Waifu age are going to be hobbyists doing things established companies can't because of intellectual property laws. The revolution has already started and VR isn't even worth a mention. That platform will have a few eroge games sure but the real scene has nothing to do with VR and is going it's own way.
This makes me think that the first company to finally have some balls and be a flat out AAA porn-game dev/publsiher might make some serious bucks. We already know porn is one of the most lucrative business on the planet and vidya is getting hella popular. Why isn't there a sandbox game yet where you can create any waifu, fuck her in any which way with full physics on the cum, spit etc, impregnate her, cum in her ass, mouth and pussy and see it with internal cameras if you wanted.
>I get to be someone's perfect waifu.
>implying that would matter
Doesn't stop actual porn being made every day. It's only an issue for companies that want to maintain family-friendly image. Porn companies want as much attention as possible... there's no such thing as bad publicity for them. 100s of butthurt tumblr SJWs posting about how you can cum in your custom made Miku's ass 100 times over until she'll literally flowing from the mouth with cum.... that'd be the best advertising ever.
point taken, im sure bangbros or whoever would love the free publicity that their 'outrage' would cause, much like what happened before/during the time Dragon's Crown came out
thanks again you patron saint, but this thread might get purged in an hour, got a backup plan?
I love how this is pretty much a cult but everyone in it is brilliant and accomplished so for once the predictions might actually come true.
Also love how most people don't know about it or if they do know think it's bullshit and will never happen, so these researchers are effectively summoning god-knows-what and nobody even considers stopping or regulating what they do.
Not that I think the singularity is a bad thing...
It's just funny. I'd expect there to be governmental regulations in place for something that affects the entire human race.
>sexbots/companions are wildly available making women almost completely redundant
>Mfw seeing the cries of neo-feminists, SJW and the final extinction the traditional family unit