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Why is this acceptable?
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Theyre best friends and think of PM and something silly and unimportant. No big deal
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Why would this be acceptable?
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Why is this allowed?
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Why not?
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WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?!
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>>258166617

>That fucking combo
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why is this allowed?!
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>>258166617

Snake is easily the most stylish character.
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>>258167075

I dunno, Falcon screams style. Like it feels like every Falcon player has to put SOME style into playing him, it's just something about the character.

Snake looks fucking stylish when you pull off combos like that, it's crazy. Though you don't see crazy shit like that very often.
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You know, why is it that the initial release of a character in PM is always over-fucking-powered and nerfed in the following version.

3.5's new character(s) going to be OP as fuck, just you wait.
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>>258166519
Is there a difference?
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I'm not a smash hardcore, someone explain what is supposedly wrong with those?
They all look ok except >>258166915
That's just spam stunlock. Not cool.
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>>258167325

PM seems to come from the 'Make a lot of aspects really ridiculous to make it balanced, and make characters more distinct' line of thought.

I'm waiting for the nerfed recoveries across the board and see how that'l change things. Honestly as it stands right now, characters who can attack out of a recovery move are pretty damn stupid.
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>>258166617

>All that
>Misses the for fun waveland at the end
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>>258167463

He's fighting a punching bag, no DI or SDI or techs at all.

And it's turbo mode anyways.
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>>258168114
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Fucking should have DQd Captain Falcon right there.
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>>258168935

>M2K and ZeRo are friends
>Both are in losers together and more playing for fun then an actual serious competition
>There was NO way for Pit to recover from that, in the slightest bit
>Lands a move that's notoriously hard to land and has massive style points

ZeRo had every right to demand a stock be taken from M2K for doing that but obviously he chose not to.
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>>258168935
why
what is wrong with this first gif
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>>258168935

Only Leffen would enforce that in that situation.
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>>258169591
He paused the game.
Pausing the game without the others players prior consent is grounds for DQ.
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>>258169831
oh that's reasonable i thought people were complaining about the knockout itself
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>>258169831

No, it's grounds for being forced to forfeit your stock.

But it's up to your opponent to enforce it.
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>>258167425
looks like fox's hitbox goes slightly higher in PM. I'm not sure, I'm not really much of a competitive Smasher to know the full extent of what's actually happening here.
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>>258166630
Who ended up taking that set?
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>>258168114
>that guy at the end
everytime
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>>258166519
I miss that glassy water
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>>258166915
How dreadful, domestic abuse in which the woman is the aggressor goes frequently unreported.
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Fresh from yesterday night.
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>>258166617
Rolex really needs to watch what he's doing.
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Any more Smash webms?
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>>258170371

Fucking desynchs, how do they work?
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>>258170371
Are they going to reupload these sets on YouTube? Link?
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>>258170434
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Who do you guys want added?

Only five people left
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>>258170434
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>>258171671

Not more sword users.
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Official faggot tier list:

Ivysaur, Link, Marth, Diddy Kong, Lucas, Pit, Zelda, Squirtle

Official OG tier list:

Snake, Wolf, Ganondorf, Game and Watch, Captain Falcon
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>>258171671
Isaac (Djin based, not sword)
Pichu (If done like a glass cannon, but then again I don't know how i'd feel about another pokemon, but in the end I guess it doesnt really matter
Slippy, cause he seems like he'd be fun
Geno, not possible, but his moveset would be the most obvious thing to grace this earth
Skullkid, don't know what he could do but it could be interesting
I really don't know behind that, the PMBR seems to know what they're doing so im fine with it, I'm just really praying that Isaac is in, I just don't wan't another Sonic character
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>>258172094
But Link, Marth and Lucas are fun..
FUCK FUCKING DIDDY FUCKING KONG, STUPID FUCK HAS ONE DAMNED EYE BUT TWO FUCKING PUPILS
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>>258171678
I hate that shit so much, fuck gan
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>>258172651

Hate what? His side b? The grounded one he predicted the tech roll and chased him and punished him for it, and the second aerial one he knew how he was going to DI and punished him for it.

Ganon deserved all of that.
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>>258172651
Ganon's side B is pretty easy to dodge though.
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>>258171047
Got you covered
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Smash can be so hype
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>playing games for kids competitively
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>>258173406

>Then killed by a random dashing upsmash

Every fucking time. I hate foxes up smash so god damn much.
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>>258173395
Hey buddy, it's rated T for Teen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW8z0B2ij50

Why is this acceptable?
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>>258173505

Smash 4 is for kids though
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>>258173487
It's not really random at that percent.
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>paused the game just to stand up and cheer for himself
What a fucking faggot
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>competitive smash
I don't allow it
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I don't get how to stick people after up-throwing as Snake in P:M

>>258173732
He has actual Autism and they're good friends anyways
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>>258173557
That's hilarious as shit.

And they said Kirbycide would no longer be a thing.
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>>258173871

I believe this stock to be Hax's turning point.

The point where he got so butthurt he started maining Fox.
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Who is the metaknight with the scarf and why is he reviled?
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>>258174006

Zero, and because he is a fat south american that wears a scarf like a fag, and plays like a giant fag.
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>>258173557
what am I watching
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>>258174310

Comedy gold.
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>>258174239
Is he the guy whose entire strategy is 'hit them once and then win on time alone?'
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>>258173871
i heard they are just making the inhale hitbox smaller
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>>258174353
but I don't get it, is chillin using wolf completely wrong or something? What made it so funny right off the bat? I have little SSB knowledge
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>>258174239
He said he wears the scarf because his mom said he always wanted to be with him when he was in the U.S. or something like that
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Anyone has that Fox vs Falco webm?
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>>258174576
because kirby is cheap as fuck and if you go near him off ledge you die

project M developers cant balance for shit and M2K/Armada and many other pros have problem with their balancing
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>>258174485
yes, there's a video of him playing a Brawl tournament match where he's DK vs an Olimar. He gets one kill first and then spends 7 minutes regrabbing the ledge, running over to the other one, and regrabbing the ledge so Olimar can't do shit without dying
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>>258174576

Wolf is a very aggressive character. Chillin plays a very very aggressive style.

Kirby can gimp wolf very easy due to wolfs fall speed being the fastest in the game.

Chilling was basically throwing his head headfirst into a brick wall over and over again.
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>>258174673

>play like a retard
>It's the games fault! It's a bad matchup!

top lel
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>>258174673
>Kirby
>cheap as fuck
Lol no he isn't if you think that then go play Mewtwo, and its still being worked on, the next update will have a ton of balances. You're acting like its so unbalanced its unplayable. Its pretty good and fun, don't nitpick at shit
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>>258174785
thanks

I hope
>>258174878
>>258174897
are you, if not they need to explain their words too
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>>258174586
Doesn't excuse his faggy behavior.
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>>258174785
So this really wouldn't work on anyone else as well because of his fall speed?
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I think it's funny how easy it is to tell if someone plays or not by their shitposts
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>>258174952
Don't get me wrong, I still think hes a fag, I can't stand him. I was just letting you know
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>>258175115
Great example right here!>>258174673
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>>258174878
>>258174897
>commonly known and stated over and over again by M2K/Armada/other pros that developers favor characters and over buff them
>lel its fun fuck off

fuck off
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>>258175115

It could work against Captain Falcon and Falco too due to them be fast fallers with pretty bad recoveries.

Fox most likely, depending on in Kirby can attack him after Fox pops out.

Or, you could do the smart ting, and just let him take you down, as log as you don't mash out of the B, kirby ends up killing himself as well.
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>>258174674
Wow, what a piece of shit. I'm the scrubbiest of scrubs, and I wouldn't resort to that
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>>258175259
Was for >>258175114
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>>258175340
>>258174674
if you're not good enough to figure out how to beat that scrub tactics you deserve to lose

same kind of people who complain about hadouken "spamming"
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>>258175340
I'm pretty sure he's most known as a Brawl player, I think he tried Melee and got super ass fucked
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>>258175227
Its being worked on, I think you got buttblasted by a kirby and now he's OP. Go play mewtwo, diddy kong or Lucas and actually learn them if you want to know what is over powered, and kirby is definitly not one of them. And anyways its not like Melee was a balanced piece of gold. Anyways PM hasn't even been out enough to even devolope a meta.
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>>258171678

Ganondorf is so fucking fun in Project M. I was honestly surprised.
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>>258175517
I agree with you, but its still poor sportsmanship
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>>258173993
Naw he always bitched about falcon being kinda shitty. He's right but his major weakness was always just auto pilot tech skill. When he made the switch to fox it was super apparent he just abused tech skill and this worked for beating people below him but once he got near people equal to him and the 5 gods his auto pilot gets him into alot of trouble. He seems to actually be a bit more patient with fox now though. He was playing outta his mind at Zenith. I think getting spanked by Zang at Evo pissed him off lol.
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>>258175561

>It's not like Melee was a balanced piece of gold

This right here. It's a great mod, and it's not like they can't balance things, because they most certainly can and are continuing to work on it. The thing about Melee is that it will always be horribly broken (not that it isn't a fun ass game).
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I started playing Project M and I'm confused. Why are Sheik and Zelda 2 different slots when you can still change between them during the match?
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>>258175561
i-i-its beta! they will balance it this time!

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2bhmih/project_m_stuff/

Now fuck off.

>inb4 reddit go away fag

If you truly play Melee and PM then you go to that sub reddit, everyone fucking does who is a part of the community that and smashboards.
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>>258175745

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0pW3Eol6k

You can't just give up The Cap after playing him for so long and being arguably the best, if not one of the best Caps out there.
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>>258175820
obligatory
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>>258173325
sad thing is 95% of ppl won't see how fucking absurd that exchange was
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>>258175850
It doesn't take up one of the character slots they can use to make new ones, its just convenient and looks a bit nicer.
>>258175881
You're not even giving reasons to why you think its broken, M2Ks post was about how people thought Mewtwo was op due to his skill with him and how they keep on buffing and nerfing characters, which I stated. When PM is done, then the true meta can start to be developed. I honestly think you have no clue what you're talking about, and if you do, then explain how kirby is broken.
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>No friends
>Don't really care to have friends
>On the other hand, no one whose good at games to play with.
I would give a limb to find someone who is good/likes games like F-Zero and Smash.

The only people I find are people online and I, for one, can't deal with the lag that netplay gives, and I have a okayish download/upload, netplay just fucking sucks unless it's older consoles.
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>>258175897
I miss it too but Hax has been playing for soo dam long and he actually has a shot at winning a National with Fox now. As hype as Falcon is he's never gonna win an APEX/EVO. His recovery is way too shitty and Falcon's design forces you to rely way too much on reads. Theirs a reason even mango barely touches falcon other than the random MU and friendlies.
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>>258175881
>gotta go to reddit in order to be a real SMASH player!

Shit this game is too real.
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>>258166915
Isn't this that turbo feature they added where you can perform a move directly after another move?
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>>258173867
please respond
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>>258176320
>As hype as Falcon is he's never gonna win an APEX/EVO. His recovery is way too shitty and Falcon's design forces you to rely way too much on reads.

No. You are wrong.

A Falcon player depends on the crowds hype. The more hype the crowd, the more energy you feed Falcon.
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>>258176417
So he's Goku?
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somehow I can still beat all my friends as Toon Link, either I'm really good or they all just suck xD

I do enjoy pikachu's style too though
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>>258176226
Where do you live? If you want to you could always find some bros at tournaments, I mean yes, the smell can be a little harsh if the building is small, but there can be some cool dudes there. I met a guy last year and we hang out every weekend, and he doesn't mind the occasional items matches or coin matches we even played f-zero x last weekend hell money matching is fun as hell. But there can also be asswipe monkeys there like example http://smashboards.com/threads/the-legend-of-red-marth.112579/
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>>258175820
the funny thing about melee is if you separated the top 7-8 (ending at ic's or falcon) into their own game
and then the rest of the cast into their own game as well
those two separate games would be absurdly well balanced, with the exception maybe of pichu
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>>258176014
Marth is just THAT FUCKING FAST he moved closer to Yoshi and grabed him and then stepped back all in less than a split frame, too fast for the human eye to see.
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http://youtu.be/FB1Zs-nqFGY?t=5m10s

Why is this acceptable?

>"he plays it like brawl"
>"we watching brawl all over again"
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>>258176353

It is. Turbo mode is enabled in that Webm. The Mario is a punching bag anyway.
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>>258176518
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>>258176554
They ban YL/Yoshi at low tier tournies btw.
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>>258176625
Mario is god like, especially if the other player has no idea how to dodge fire balls properly. And plus that cape. But seriosuly, am I the only one who can play turbo mode for only about twenty minutes due to the button mashing?
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>>258176541

>xD

I have been rused, but I'm still replying.
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>>258176726
does ganon pika luigi or doc qualify?
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>>258176728

No, I mean the Mario on screen isn't even being controlled. Mario is pretty beast in Project M, yeah. Actually, he's my favorite right now.
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>Hold down R when selecting Bowser
>Play as Giga Bowser

>Hold down R when selecting IC
>Play as Popo

>Hold down R when selecting Mario
>nothing happens

What the fuck, PMBR?
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>>258176917
No they are med to high tier. Low tier tournies are basically from yoshi downwards.
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>>258171671
Ike Climbers
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>>258176547
>tournaments
Aside from the fact that I'm a hermit and social settings make me uneasy, I wouldn't mind it, except for that fact that I'm not really willing to travel for it.
I live in Bend Oregon.
Most people around here are the healthy naturey outdoorsy type. Makes for a good community whenever I 'do' get out, but for the most part, not very many gamers here.
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>>258177034
Genuine question:

Would Metal Mario be banned or used in tournaments?

If he's usable, I think I found my new main. PMBR pls
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>>258177034
That would have to be an alt skin if anything, and thats already used for Doc.
Giga is able because that triggers his final smash, but makes it infinite
and for SoPo is just registers the players character slot and discludes the others. If anything they would have to either get rid of a alt costume, but at that point you mise as well just choose it, or use a character slot to give Mario different abilities, which im sure they'd rather use on something else
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>>258172094
>three of my favorite characters on the faggot list
What is so wrong about Lucas, Kiddy Dong, and Squirtle?
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>>258177241

Dunno. Being metal is usually a bad thing though. Pretty much any throw near the ledge will basically fuck you.
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>>258177034
>get final smash with wario
>use the runback feature while being wario-man
>infinite wario-man
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>>258177192
Most locals are literally just abunch of people playing smash together.
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>>258177283
Metaknight has two alt costumes

Also, if Giga is a final smash, then isn't Metal Mario a metal box?
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>>258177192
I live in North Carolina and there are torunaments here in hick ville. And trust me, everyone there is just as a nerd as you. I mean they're going to a SMASH BROTHERS tournament. But yeah I need to take a 45 min drive to get to my tourney but its worth it, especially when you start to get to know people
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>>258177464
Have you seen Kevin?
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>>258177157
I miss that map.
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>>258177456
Yeah a character can have more than one, its just all 10 of marios slots have been taken up. And its possible I guess I never thought of it that way, I don't see why not do it.. Shit that'd actually be a pretty cool easter egg
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I had no idea that Mr Saturn actually had a use.

He can break shields.
I had no idea after all these years of playing Melee/Brawl. Holy shit.
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>>258177593
I figured that same thing out around a month ago, I just thought he was a thing you could just throw around and make noises with. >>258177556
No.. Should I?
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>>258177292
Lucas recovers like a mother fucker and is fairly safe about it too

Diddy's Bananas are both really fucking annoying and actually fuck you up hard

All of their moves are just good
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>>258177719
Lucas's recovery is getting nerfed a ton, his tether off stage will be reduced to the length on stage, and his magnet can only be used once to reduce falling speed im sure. Also after his up-b his falling direction will be decreased a bit (meaning after you do a up-b and it hit, the speed you can move to the left and right will be reduced a bit) And stuff like this will all be included in the 3.5 which seems to be a huge balancing update, especially for recoveries overall
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>>258177954

Doesn't change the fact that right now he is a fast faller for combo purposes but a floaty with a tether for recovery purposes.

Also like 5 different free setups into up smash is gay as shit. Not even including shit like DACUS.
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>>258177034

Hold down R on Wario to get Warioman.

Hold down R on Mario to get Metal Mario

Hold down R on Ike to get Ike Climbers

Hold down R on Sonic to get Super Sonic
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>>258178070
Yeah, but the update should be coming soon, they did give him these recovery nerfs due to the fact his on stage game is so good, kinda made him almost a Falco I guess. And his upsmash is pretty nuts, but then again Fox's is even worse. But yeah, Dacus is awful, and I play Lucas
>>258178157
I hope ike climbers becomes a new game mode... I'd double the ice climbers so hard
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>>258177034
I can still hear it walking
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>>258178348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zDNKKZY1WI
God tier music
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>>258178645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93XGViQ1lQ
Thank the sweet lord Pm has this stage and music, its so fucking good
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Will we ever see someone dominate a smash game again to the point of Isai dominating 64?
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>>258178894
In melee theres Mango, but hes not really dominating, but doing really really well.
For PM... we have to wait and see. Honestly don't expect anything Isai level till PM is finished due to meta
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>>258178830
melee had such good mother music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij0HptqoBxI
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>Project M thread
>NEVER ever any Ike WebMs besides that TAS one
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>>258178894
No Smash64 is a solved game and Isai is the one who knows all its secrets. People like AMSA are basically fleshing out the low tiers no one wanted to bother with. Melee has another 5 years before 20XX truly kills it.
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>>258179341

There are several webms in this thread, and that TAS fox vs falco isn't even PM.

r u tryng to trick me?
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>>258166915
where's the dubstep?
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>>258179458

Forgive me anon, for I have shamed myself.

I didn't notice you said Ike. There was that one of Ike QD grab cancel chain throwing mewtwo I think it was.

I didn't save it though.
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>Friends get together for small Project M tournament
>Figure I can get into the finals, if not win it
>Play like garbage and lose in the first round, then lose the first round of the losers' bracket
>Playing some 1v1s after the tournament's over
>Style on almost everyone, 4-stock the guy who came in second place
But why.
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>>258180242
Probably chocked a little due to the pressure, and maybe over confident, but once there were friendlies you were more calm. Smash gets pretty mental too as stupid as that sounds
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>>258178645
>This song is in PM
Thank you lord.

Also
>Playing Classic Mode in PM
>VERSUS
>ME-TAL MAH RIO
>Metal Cavern + That song plays
Thanks based PM devs
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>>258180336
I agree there. I wasn't even pissed, the matches were pretty good and my friend's Yoshi is just filthy.
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>>258173590
It's not for kids, it's for everyone. It DOES mean everyone can play it, little kids to edgy adults like you.
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>>258180242
Bracket>friendlies.
Friendlies don't mean shit. MM people for decent cash if you want bracket experience fast.
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>>258180684
Forgot to add alot of people don't take casuals/friendlies seriously.
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>tfw this doesn't play any time you pick Diddy in PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlnA4KuqXGE
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>>258180798
We took it seriously enough, especially after I started the win streak.
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>>258181132
But there's still no risk in losing, it's an impossible thing to emulate.
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>>258181220
Basically you could have MM for 5 buck. The only thing you can lose in fight tan are pride and money.
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>>258180242
>P:M Tournament of friends/people I kinda sorta know
>Around 20 people both days
>Singles one day, Doubles the next
>Skilled friend, Me, Average friend come in 1st 2nd 3rd for Singles
>Doubles
>"that' couple comes in first, Me+Average Friend 2nd, Skilled Friend + Friend who never plays in 3rd
>During the match, Me+Friend are losing, someone says "THE UPSET THO". Boyfriend man says "It's not an upset if we were always going to win"
>After they win he says "We always knew we were better"
>They didn't even get top 10 in Singles
>mfw
>They start making out hardcore after winning
>Everyone watching is just kind of awkwardly standing because of the couple
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>>258176014
Do you have that webm of Roy's sword passing through someone?
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>>258181470
>celebratory makeout
That's weird as fuck.
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>>258181470

>getting beat by a team with a girl on it

or

>getting beat by fags
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>>258170371
Wobbles was going full fucking style that set.
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>>258181470
Yeah it kinda sucks how some people can be shitty at tournaments. should have made out with your friend to prove that they're shit
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>>258170271
Hax a best
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>>258181598
They were doing that kinda shit all week. Constantly making out, really fucking inappropriate touching. She was never not sitting on his lap

>>258181641
Girl and Boy

>>258181707
>pic
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>>258181698
Is he finally outta retirement?
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>>258181876

>implying you can ever retire from smash
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>>258172094
probs?
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>>258181641
Some girls are actually pretty decent at smash. Teams is more about team synergy at a local level.
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>>258181919

Yes I have a problem.

And it's called her back air.
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>>258181919
why can't we have this shit for pokemon
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>>258172094
>I play Zelda, Snake and Falcon
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>>258182018

Because enjoy your lime green shiny pokemon.
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>>258181914
Seriously, Armada and M2K both said they were going to retire a year or so ago, and then they show up at tournaments
>therideneverends.jpb
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>>258181983
side special, dash attack, short hop back air ;3

then i edgeguard with seed bomb
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>>258181919
Fun fact: Her colors are based are seasons and weather colors!
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>>258181919
>introducing cousin who is an old hand at melee to Project M
>Playing Ivysaur, he's digging the starter pokemon movesets
>Didn't tell him exactly everything about Ivysaur, he doesn't know what happens when I charge up the neutral B
>Get the angle, throw out a solar beam
>His fucking face when
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>>258182194
>my friends face when they see me landing sweet spot up specials after not playing with me for months and thinking im still shit
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>>258181983
Ivysaur is only good against scrubs.
Git guud the onyl thing amazing about Ivy is how long she can live for how light she is.
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>>258174749
Is there somewhere I can watch this in HD?
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>>258182292
and her ability to poke and run

and her edge guarding is above average

her wavedash sucks tho
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>>258182194
God my fucking brother can sweet spot her up-b all the fucking time its nuts, being in the air with an ivysour oppenent is hell
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>>258182292
And the ridiculously easy recovery. And the sweet spot Up Special that can kill at like 30%.
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>>258182292

Nigga please, her fucking fair and bair are long as fuck range disjointed hitboxes, and got help you if she grabs you when she has a solar beam charge.

The mixup from being afraid of both Up B and solar b alone takes a stock 90% of the time.
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Do you guys think Zelda is OP/Broken?

What makes her so good?
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>>258182326
>brawl
>hd
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>>258175517
Except in Brawl, certain characters can't do anything about ledge stalling.

Olimar literally has no options for dealing with a DK who does that.

It's one of the reasons I-frame resets require you to land on the platform in smash 4, so you can't do infinite ledge stalls.
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>>258182451
Well, something higher quality than that webm.

I guess saying HD was pretty fucking stupid.
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>>258182437
Nah, similar to >>258182292 shes only op if you're new to the game, yes her neutural-b and and side-b can be hard as fuck to get passed but once you learn you can beat her. If you're having problems with her, characters like Mario and Lucas can destroy her. Now if the Zelda is good enough and knows when to switch in to shiek then there might be problems, but usually that never happens cause they dont focus on both
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>>258167425
>>258170152
It's the reflection you shit-asses.
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>>258182658
>Mained Shiek in Melee
>Main Zelda in P:M

I guess I should actually bother switching
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>>258182658

Ivysaurs side bs is easily the easiest thing to get through. It's then her zoning you out with long range aerials and seed bomb.

You basically have to be someone with a spamable projectile or really fast to get in on her.
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>>258182809
Well Shieks only big change from Melee to PM is that her down throw doesn't combo into everything everymore, but she is still very usable, just make sure to not forward smash too much cause its pretty bad, but down smash on the other hand is great. But seriously if you can utilize both properly it can be really destructive.

>>258182925
Yeah, usually I prefer to use Lucas or Marth when fighting ivysour. Just charged B's and up b kills me man, but my brother always ustilizes her side b to rush me, I just gotta learn to get around it
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>>258182925
>her
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>>258183338

Ivysaur is a girl in brawl/pm.
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>>258183338
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>>258168114
Can somebody play by play this for me, it's really late and I'm dumb and tired as fuck
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>>258183451
>mfw the first her you highlight, is the last her that shows up
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>>258183371
>>258183451
So is that actually an official thing somewhere or did the PM guys just decide to make it female for the hell of it
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>>258183371
How did people even figure this out anyways? Was it just decided by the community or did it have it in the brawl booklet or something?
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>>258166380
Because Diddy is a faggot.
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>>258182340
>>258182421
>>258182426

She on the better half of the cast for sure but there are much stronger characters.

She is slow has good moves but each one is a commitment that can be punished if used retardedly.She can be crouch cancelled for fucking ever.Good edge guarding yes but charizards is on par.Her best kill options require a grab to get safely which is laggy and forces you out of your zoning area.Dash dancing shuts her down on faster characters you can projectile spam forces her to approach.
>And the sweet spot Up Special that can kill at like 30%.
Holy shit you're fucking bad and retarded it can kill at like 50% on Jiggs on warioware thats the most you're gonna get with good DI from the opponent which im sure yours is shit.
>her fucking fair and bair are long as fuck range disjointed hitboxes
Marths sword is still longer but they do cover more area around her but she needs the wall to not get buttfucked by every character.At high level play she is already pretty bad but she dominates shitters.
>The mixup from being afraid of both Up B and solar b alone takes a stock 90% of the time.
It can be airdodged countered by FE characters and its just as much of a threat as samus charge shot which I don't see people bitching about but thats only because you're used to it and learning something new is TOOHARD.

She has strengths and weaknesses but she certainly doesnt need nerfed in any way she needs very minor buffs.
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>>258166212
Because FALCON PUUUUNCH
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>>258183672
It had been there since Brawl
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>>258183501

P1 knocks player 2 off stage with a sourspot knee.

P1 grabs ledge and dairs P2.

P2 metoer cancels the meteor and UPbs to recover.

P1 also being too far down from the dair Up Bs to recover.

P1 catches P2 with his up b grab. The grab sends player to flying at the stage.

P2 techs off the stage and wall jumps and throws out a knee that lands square in P1s face killing him.
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>>258183672
All Ivysaurs are female
Just like Goodras
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>>258183805
Nah I don't think she needs a nerf by any means. She could be better and the top tier shit needs to be worse.
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>>258183938
Thank you friend
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>>258183947
>>258183834
Where was it stated in Brawl

And if Ivysaur is female why is it voiced by a male :^)
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>>258183672
> weaker pokemon are female
> ivysaur kitchen minigame released
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>>258184090
why is bart simpson voiced by a girl?
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>>258184090

It's voiced by a girl in the jap version.
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>>258184387
Every male in Japanese media is voiced by a girl though unless it's fucking Wakamoto
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Anyone have that image of skill levels and faggotry for smash?
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>>258184614

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ANPjqCMrsZIUX3AY7LZQrDCL3OaIaIHXqN2w8JPdzwY/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Someone made this awhile ago.

Which is basically just paraphrases the matchup threads on smashboards.
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So we can all agree that now that Roy is in PM there is no need to include a character as incredibly homosexual as Marth in right?
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>>258178157
Super Sonic doesn't have a moveset though, he just flies around like a glorious golden autist
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>>258184614
tires don exits in PM
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>>258184748
>liking Roy
I don't get where this fascination people have with him comes from
They base it entirely off of a lack of knowledge from playing Melee as a kid

Roy has his own harem in FE6 sure but Marth has bitches lusting after his dick like hell as well
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>>258184828

That's not a tier list m8
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>>258184748
Marth's just a man who's secure in his sexuality. He doesn't give a fuck.
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>>258184860
What's wrong with that? If people just like Roy cause he has fire and visually looks cool to them thats fine with me. Anyways I don't think the FE game Roy was in was even localized anyways
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>>258184748
>>258184860
the only people who prefer roy are the ones who haven't played fire emblem
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>>258185001
It's true, Roy is garbage. Worst Lord.
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>>258185001
I prefer Roy to Marth cause hes heavier and I like his side b more.
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>>258184860

It's mostly Melee nostalgia for me. I went through FE6 and I still like him though. I'd probably pick Ike instead though, if his playstyle fit me.
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>>258166212
its not. Mew2king thinks hes some kind of hot shit, when hes really not.
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>>258184860
>>258185001
I'm talking about the way Roy plays compared to Marth. He feels like he can be more freestyle compared to Marth.
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>>258185001
>implying I have to play the game to like the character
>I used Lucas in Brawl before I knew about Mother 3 and still liked him
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>>258184979
Because I always see people talking about how Roy is so badass and Marth is a fucking faggot and it's entirely baseless. I like his design in Melee a lot but there's not much to go off of without making stuff up.

And even though his game didn't come out over here we've had a translation for years and he's been shown as pretty much the worst Lord in character and gameplay by far. His personality is entirely composed of 'I lead army for my dad and I don't like bad guys!'
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>>258185202
Seriously, this has been explained. They're friends, and they're fucking around.
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>>258185301
This, and the fact that Zero is way more of a faggot than m2k's autism could ever reach
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>>258185254
I guess I could see that since Marth does look more feminine compared to Roy, I don't really care about that its just about play style, anyways i've only played the GBA fire emblem games and awakening, so my FE knowledge is on the low
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>>258185207

I prefer his more aggressive style. Marth has always been kinda weird for me, I like his moves but hate his physics.
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>>258174257
That's pretty funny.
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>>258185207
>>258185740
Too bad Roy's slowness is fucking shit for an agressive playstyle.

That's why Sakurai turned him into Lucina. Faster and no hilt tip.
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>>258187846

He's not that slow. He's slower than Marth, but that's still a pretty decent speed, plus he has a shorter short hop and a faster fall speed. He's terrible in Melee, I won't dispute that, but that's because of things unrelated to his speed. I don't see Lucina being anything like Roy, she'll probably be more like Marth with the greater emphasis on air game over staying closer to the ground.
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>>258172094
>tfw I like Ike
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>>258182508
Should've picked a different character then. Or is every competitive player just a one-trick pony?
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How to win as Olimar:

Kill off all your pikmin
Pluck one pikmin:
Is it Purple?
If No, kill it.
If Yes, you win.
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>>258188350
>I am fucking retarded, please rape my face

Yeah, why are those faggots playing shit tier characters when they can just use Meta-Knight instead????

And that's how Brawl died.
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>>258166212
What are you talking about? He read Zer0 like a book. He read him so hard, Borders is back in business.
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>>258188538
>Yeah, why are those faggots playing shit tier characters when they can just use Meta-Knight instead????

Haha, that's a funny strawman. Seriously though, how can anyone enter a tournament without knowing how to play at least 3 characters effectively?
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>>258188654
Because then it becomes a stale boring tournament where every faggot uses Meta-Knight, Diddy or Falco? Why bother playing a shit tier character at all?
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>>258188654

In what way? Do you mean knowing how to play 3 characters, or actually use them? Because there's some players that place well using only one character.
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All the higher up player in Smash know each other pretty well, even the names you think you haven't heard before usually are known by the top players. Everyone is pretty much friends, which i why he was cool with him pausing. He understood that he was like "OLD DAT" and was clearly laughing along with him.
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>>258188950
Knowing how to play 3 characters.
>Because there's some players that place well using only one character.
Good for them. But don't complain when someone uses a tactic that you can't counter then. Like that DK Olimar situation.
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Dilemma time!
Would you rather...
>Be the best player in your area, but no one wants to play with you because you're "that guy"
or
>Be as shit as your friends, but get to play with them all the time
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>>258166915
Reminds me of this

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34e4l_Hgrgw
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>>258189657
Can't I just be popular and good? ;_;
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>>258189657

First one, I have no one to play with anyways.
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>>258189657
But when you're the best in your area, everyone wants to play with you unless you hang out with casual shitters.
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I'm absolutely shit at PM, where can I find other shitters to netplay with?

I don't want to go to those matchmaking websites because they are full of people who actually know how to play.
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>>258192158
get good
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>Smash tourney
lol
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>>258192573
You can only do so much alone.
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