Friendly reminder that Falco isn't going to be returning

>>257985183
That's retarded. Anon, you're retarded.

>>257985303
>implying that isn't how it's going to be

>>257985303
Just accept it.

>implies Falco isn't going to return
>doesn't realize why Lucina has her own slot
As Sakurai said:
>"However, whenever there is even a small difference in abilities, that character gets an actual roster slot."

>>257985183
Right, if that's true, then why didn't they just make Marth have equipment/ custom attacks to make him fight like Roy/ Lucina? Think your shit out.

>>257985183

Falco doesn't control the same as Fox.

You're fucking stupid.

>>257986135

The difference between Marth and Lucina is broader than the difference between Fox and Falco

>>257986327
Explain this to me, please? Do they have a single move that's different?

>>257986641

The mechanics of their sword work differently.

Where Falco is just a slightly slower Fox that can be emulated with Equipment items.

>>257986809
Half of Falco's A moves are unique to Falco as of Brawl and some of the other ones also have ''mechanics'' that work differently. You're a retard.

>>257986809
Their reflector's work completely different; Falco kicks his. This is a bigger difference than mechanics of a sword.

>implying they would cut Falco when he takes so little work to implement

>>257987184
>implying that reflector kick wouldn't just be a Fox B-alt

>>257987351
>implying that the sword mechanics would be more than equipment
Sakurai said if a character is even slightly different, they get their own slot. Falco is more different from Fox than Lucina is from Marth.

>>257987545

Falco is exactly Fox just slower and with slightly different animations.

And besides, it's obvious that Lucina was nothing more than a last-minute addition, originally planned to be nothing but a gender-alt for Marth.

Last I checked, I don't think Falco's a gender-alt for Fox.

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>>257985303

>>257987812
No, he's more than a gender-alt. He's far more important to his respective franchise and if a newcomer of all things got her own slot as a "last minute addition" why wouldn't they just add in a character they already have created? If Lucina was easy to throw in last minute, than Falco would have been even easier. Stop trying to justify your waifu so hard.

falco will return with a landmaster assist trophy

I'd rather they ditch Wolf, but really I doubt they'll be cutting either of them.

>>257988150

Alright, so they'll just port Falco in from Brawl exactly how he is and he won't fit in with the art style :^)

BUT MUH DOWN AIR

>>257988150
>Falco
>important

How about you stop trying to justify your shitty furfag game clone so hard.

Lucina

>>257988446
Alright, so they'll just port Lucina in from Fire Emblem: Awakening exactly how she is and she won't fit in with the art style :^)

>>257988678
>muh logical fallacies

>>257988582
I'm not a furfag; your argument is literally just ignorant and self-contradictory. You're justifications for Lucina being in could easily (if not more easily) apply to Falco. There's no real reason to believe he's cut.

MUH FALCO

>>257988150

Lucina WOULD be easier as a last minute addition because they'd planned and created her model and animations from the start.

At least I still have my macro porn

>>257987812
>slightly different

All right, let's take a look.

Falco's Up air hits once, not twice like Fox's.
Falco's forward air is completely different from Fox's in terms of animation, strength, and function.
Falco's back air is different than Fox's.
Falco's down air is different than Fox's, though it looks similar.
Falco's forward smash is completely different than Fox's.
Falco's up smash is weaker than Fox's.
Falco's blaster is much slower and has flinch.
Falco's up B has less range than Fox's.
Falco kicks his reflector.
Falco jumps higher than Fox but runs slower.
Falco's up tilt hits twice and has a different animation than Fox's (which hits once only).
Falco's A-A-A combo is different.

Did I miss anything? Oh, right, his Landmaster is slightly different as well.

>>257988945
You act as if you know that they didn't plan and create Falco's model and animations from the start, when really you don't.

>>257989061

Sounds exactly the same to me.

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Falco/wolf was already spoilered by the treehouse guy

>>257989098

Still less likely due to character customizations.

>>257989163
:^)

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>Daily reminder that Ike won't be back
>Daily reminder that Toon Link won't be back
>Daily reminder that Lucario won't be back

Haven't you niggas learned yet, your patterns don't mean shit. Haven't you assholes been blown the fuck out enough, you need some more.

Are you fucking stupid, do you need help?

>>257986809
Alright we're just going to pretend he has completely different animations and hitboxes just so you can get guaranteed replies. I see how it is you fucker.

>>257989061
>implying this stuff won't just be customizable for Fox

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>PATTERNS
Get the fuck out OP.

>>257989845
>Implying Toon Link wont be just a customizable Link

>>257989935

>implying they didn't change Link

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>>257987812
Guys, this is fucking obvious. Why are you biting?

>>257990102
>Implying they didn't change Fox

Major Falco differences from Fox that aren't B moves: Down air is a single strong hitbox, Forward smash is much stronger, all up moves are much weaker and/or scale less in knockback as % gets greater, new forward air and jab animations in Brawl I think, Down tilt has knockback scaling such that it is a kill move, his lasers in the up throw animation do some weird shit Fox's doesn't. Can't thinl of anything else off the top of my head.

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>this entire topic

The most obvious bait I have ever seen, and it got taken hook, line, and fucking sinker.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3XT2mBvxE

As long as Krystal is in, I don't give a fuck about the others.

>implying Falco won't be replaced with Krystal
>implying her Final Smash won't still be a Landmaster

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what's more important? the ally, the girl or the bad guy?

>>257990221
Shine has upward knockback that scales with percent as opposed to Fox where his shine has fixed knockback that hits characters at a horizontal/downward trajectory.

>You'll be able to make Fox fight exactly like Falco
So Fox will grow longer leg hitboxes with the right custom moves?

>>257990932
>implying that hitbox is enough of a change for them to warrant putting Falco in just because of the Lucina announcement

I don't even play Falco but somehow this still seems wrong to me
I think I've just gotten so used to him always being there

>>257991329

There's literally no reason for him to be there other than to appease Meleefags, which Sakurai has already given up trying to do since they all just mod the games anyway.

>>257991557

He made the most sense besides wolf and he's popular

>>257991934

Wolf makes more sense because he's one of Fox's antagonists.

Falco is literally just bird-Fox with a snarky attitude.

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>>257991557

I know I know
it just won't be the same
he won't be there to tell me to get my hands of his prey or about how he personally prefers the air
It feels like I've lost a father, a lover, a friend
RIP in piece bird brain

>>257992246

sucks to be you, faggot

>>257990747
Come on, she has a magic staff. There is room for a lot more creativity with her IF she is in.
I sure do hope so.

>>257992586
It'll be that annoying Triceratops then.

But he'll still control like a landmaster without a cannon or jumpjets.

>>257988313
>preferring Wolf to be cut
>at all

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>>257990747
her sm will be a dino that will move like a landmaster

>>257992759
>>257993231

...slightly out of synch hivemind?

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>>257992246
>your father is your lover
getta load of this guy

Can we talk about Wolf instead

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>you will never lovingly lick Falco's half-erect cock
>you will never tease the tip of it with little kisses as it grows in size and straightness
>you will never start out sucking his cock slowly, then increase the speed, bobbing your head up and down while letting the mixture of saliva and precum drench his now rock hard penis
>you will never feel his dick throb deep in your throat as he grunts and thrusts at the raw pleasure he feels
>you will never feel long strands of hot, thick, and sticky cum shoot from his throbbing, powerful cock down your neck as he pushes deeper into your esophagus, as he gives his final, ecstatic groan
>you will never have him whipmer and jerk at your tongue cleaning up his little mess off of his sensitive penis

>>257994052
are you a korean doctor by any chance

>>257994253
Now how am I going to lick a 40-foot penis
It just ain't done

>>257985183
He has a spike though.

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>>257994052

Falco is more interested in fucking buildings, Anon.

togepi is smalltime

>>257985183
Do you, or anyone here have any info on that?
If you don't have any, don't go just assuming shit.

If fem-marth made into smash 4, i don't see why birdfox wouldn't.

>>257995262

Fem-Marth was already in Smash as Marth's gender-alt, though. They just decided to make her a seperate character later.

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>>257985183
reminder that if you want falco back you are just like him

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Why does everyone seem to want to keep Falco AND Wolf, but cut Lucas? He is more original than Wolf and Falco

>>257995970

God the amount of Fox/Falco yaoi that exists on the internet is fucking ridiculous.

The amount of pictures of Giant Falco fucking a building is almost as bad.

>>257996137
Lucas is much more safe than Falco will ever be.

>>257991934
Only black people like Falco.

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All the Star Fox vets are going to make a return. Along with Krystal being a newcomer

>>257995970
Why can't he commission non-shit artists or get a better fetish?

>>257996137
Lucas and Wolf are cool.

fags want Falco because he was top tier in Melee and Brawl and the THAT AINT FALCO meme.

>>257994052
>you will never ever

>>257989171
sauce

>>257996418

Starfox isn't important enough anymore. They're going to have a character cut.

>>257996689

see >>257990391

It's falco or wolf

>>257996137
>Wolf
>not more original than Lucas

>>257996702
>not important
>new game for 2015 by miyamoto

>>257997002
>by Miyamoto

Just because he was playing Starfox 64 doesn't mean he's directing the new one.

And it's still unimportant until the new game comes out in what will likely be 2016... well beyond when it would need extra Smash characters for advertisement.

>>257997271
And Mother is?

>>257985183
when the game is released I'm going to laugh at you. my dad is Nintedno, Falco is in the new game, screencap this post.

>>257998561

Oh Lucas will get cut too.

>>257998754

Your father is an entire video game company?

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>>257994803
>macro birds

Sorry I prefer mine meaty and strong

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>>257994052
>you will never do anything sexual to either Star Wolfs' or Star Foxs' members

>>257999887

...that thumbnail is terrifying. What the fuck is wrong with furries?

>>257990924
The side character created to be a tennis partner for the rival

>>258000143
it's actually pretty tame

>>258000258
>This is what Waluigifags and Daisyfags actually believe

>>257985183
Friendly reminder that Toon Link isn't going to be returning in Smash 4.

His B-moves are going to be one set of Link's custom attacks. And his change in power and speed will be replaced by the equipment system.

You'll be able to make Link fight exactly like Toon Link. That's the closest you'll be able to get.

Sorry Toon Link fans.

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>>257999887
Unless Tizoc or Olcadan go full bird for some reason then no

I prefer my Falco lean and mean.

>>258000143
Lots of things.

LOTS.

>>258000947
>implying Toon Link's as close to Link as Falco is to Fox

>>257985183

Luigi.

Toon Link.

Lucina.

>>258000947
Friendly reminder that Luigi isn't going to be returning in Smash 4.

His B-moves are going to be one set of Mario's custom attacks. And his change in power and speed will be replaced by the equipment system.

You'll be able to make Mario fight exactly like Luigi. That's the closest you'll be able to get.

Sorry Luigi fans.

Friendly reminder that Luigi isn't going to be returning in Smash 4.

His B-moves are going to be one set ofMario's custom attacks. And his change in power and speed will be replaced by the equipment system.

You'll be able to make Mario fight exactly like Luigi. That's the closest you'll be able to get.

Sorry Luigi fans.

>>257985183
>extremely popular Smash Bros character that was made more unique in Brawl
>gonna be removed when there are still clone characters in the new Smash

>>257986327

This is factual bullshit.

>>258001427
that doesn't make sense
green missile is completely different from cape.

>>258001492
nobody likes him in brawl, PM made him back into a full clone again and people loved it.

>>258001054
I dunno, Falco looking beefy is kinda sexy to look at.

>>258002161
Shine combos >>>> chaingrabs

>>258001325

Luigi actually has a different Final Smash and completely different Down-B and Side-B moves and numerous completely different A-moves.

Toon Link has massively different hitboxes for every single move both giving and receiving, along with several differences in the way his moves hit like his Down-Aerial.

Lucina's hitboxes and speed will be drastically different from Marth and she won't have the benefit of Marth's sweet spot.

Falco has the same A-moves and B-moves as Fox just with slightly different animation and speed and a barely different hitbox. The only MAJOR difference is kicking out his reflector. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

Falco's gonna get cut.

>>258000947
>>258001346
>>258001427

Strawman.

>>258002161

They didn't like his playstyle. That's understandable because he was a chain grabbing, laser camping faggot. People still like him as a character.

>>258002580
such is falco
i want him gone and just have fox and wolf.

>>258002760

Good thing you don't make the game.

>>258002967
Eh, it's not like Shine combos are coming back anytime soon.

>>258003054
>It's not like combos are coming back
ftfy

I don't even get why anyone would ever want a character cut in the first place. Clones and veterans take a mere fraction as much time as a newcomer. A clone veteran must be the fucking easiest thing to add. It's just extra content, it's not taking much of anything away from the rest of the game.

>>258003275
Hey that's not true, we've already seen such thrilling technical displays like uptilt->uptilt->uptilt->uptilt

>>258003319

But why put in a clone when the equipment system makes the character they're a clone of fight identically?

>>258003480
Who says they'll be identical? They can easily be different

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>He seriously thinks Falco won't return to dine on his piece of cake

I bet you don't even prefer the air, faggot

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>>258002397
agreed

>>258003594
I bet your mom prefers the air of my ass

>>258003480
They'll still have different base stats, and likely different animations in some cases.

>>258003907
>base stats

What's the point in making their base stats different when the equipment system can change those stats?

>>258004194

lucina_and_toonlink.jpeg

This entire thread is just one big fucking bait. The counter arguments from the people who "thinks" Falco won't be in are half assed and obviously made just to extend the period of arguments and to piss the fuck out of everybody
>Just, fucking, stop

>>258004194
Because not everyone is going to use the equipment system. Not to mention there are some things that I doubt the equipment system can alter, like the aforementioned animations.

>>257996418
wfa's actually a pretty good artist

it's just that most of her commissioners tend to have shitty fetishes

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Why not just make Falco less of a clone? His moveset was only out of last minute necessity two fucking games ago, and even then he was initially going to be Wolf but they decided Falco was a better fit for all of Fox's kicks, which is why he's so fucking heavy even though he's a god damn bird. Just make him a fuckin aerial ace acrobat sharpshooting motherfucker already like he fucking well should be.

>>257996297

I needed that joke. Thanks anon.

>>258005285
Better to just put in Krystal who wouldn't be a clone at all.

>>258004564
see >>258002582

>>258005285
In a way, Wolf coming in to Brawl than Melee is a blessing for the character - it made him unique.

Also nobody would have thought to give Wolf a feral/werewolf moveset.

>>258004712

But it's fun.

I am going to laugh at the idiots who think Falco will be removed when he's confirmed.

Remember what happened with Ike, Toon Link, and especially Lucario?

>>258005516

literally stat changes

>>258006112

Falco's the only one that is literally stat changes.

>>257990563
I still kind of want her. A staff fighter would be a welcome change.

>>258006709

stat, animation, and hitbox changes

>>258007006

Not as drastically as the others. He's pretty much extremely-slightly taller slower Fox. The variance is negligible compared to the others.

>>258007184

Then why do they have drastically different playstyles? They are polar opposites

>>258007006
>hitbox

So one pixel difference in hitbox is considered a completely different hitbox to you people?

>>258007345

They have the exact same playstyle. Just animated to LOOK different.

>>258007512

Have you ever played brawl? They play nothing alike.

>>258007672

Yeah, I've played Brawl. Other than the reflector, Falco is basically just Fox with different animations that do the exact same thing.

>>258007870

Then why can't I chaingrab or dacus with fox?

>>258008129

Minor stat differences that you'll be able to emulate with Smash 4's equipment system.

>>258008352

You're contradicting yourself. How do they play the same if one can do things the other can't?

>>258008541
>plays the same, only with minor stat differences
>NUH-UH THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CUZ ONE'S FASTUR

>>258007184
Why are you still trying to perpetuate this bullshit? Nobody believes you and you've been told time and time again how wrong you are.

>>258009395
I'm only as wrong as the rest of you are because nothing's been proven yet :^)

>>258009395

Prove that I'm wrong in terms that a non-autistic-tourneyfag would care about :^)

>>258009824

Hey quit that :^)

>>258010008
No U :^)

>>258007184

In Melee yes

In Brawl hell no
Falco is A tier
Fox is C tier
thats not a negligible difference

>>258010237

The alphabet has 26 letters.

In scale that sounds pretty close to me.

>>258010347
The scale goes S A B C D E

>>258010447

Somebody needs to go back to school and learn the alphabet then.

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>>258010237
>>258010347
>>258010447
>>258010631