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How do I not suck balls at BG1?

As in, how do I play it and not die to 2 wolves while exploring the map with 6 people in my party?
Is there a mod for retards because I'm seriously thinking about getting it.
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>>257065541
Just drop it to easy mode you scrub,or you go play icewind dale it's much easier
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I've got enhanced edition, is it any good/should i play?
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use ranged weapons, like a sling

they may have bad accuracy and damage but 6 guys throwing rocks at a distant enemy means that they'll probably go down before they reach you
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>>257065841
You miss out on a lot of good mods without much of a gain.
>>257065845
This ranged weapons are OP in BG1.

Just stick with it OP after the first level or two the game gets a lot easier.
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>>257065541
I was also bad at this game when i started.
then i STARTED PLAYING THE GAME AND NOW IM PRETTY GOOD AT IT MAYBE YOU CAN DO THAT TOO
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I can't make Imoen always use the wand, does it need to be recharged or is there some limitation I'm not aware of?
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>>257066815
All wands have limited charges. It's basically just useful to damage a spell caster to interrupt his casting since it can't miss if I remember correctly.
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>>257065841
I hope you haven't paid for that overpriced subpar release.
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>>257066815

wands are limited, baldur's gate is very easy to break once you get a large amount of them in vanilla at least where you can spawn a million skeletons/cannon fodder animals, it's how I beat the last boss as a dumb kid

if you are having issues then try to grind a level or two at the ankheg farm, they give a large amount of experience and avoid the fuck out of durlag's tower fuck that place seriously
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>>257067403
>durlag's tower
It's pretty easy. Just sticked with million traps.
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>>257067403
>>257067521
Those fucking traps are everywhere and just make the entire experience tedious. At least I never have to go through it again.
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>>257067403
>Those dwarven doom guards
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>>257067691
>those lindworms on very hard
10x harder than anything in this damn tower.
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>>257065541

get edwin

kill everything
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if you want no frustrations then play it on easy

Otherwise you will always have to cheese your way through

If you can't kill stuff in a zone leave it and return later, you have to basically get to the cap to deal with most of the shit in the game
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>>257067784
>that part where the cult steals the magical dagger to summon a demon lord
>when you kill it it respawns out of the followers until they're all dead
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>>257067992
Low tier troll post, don't listen to this OP.
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You can paralyze him with the wand. Kill all and then him.
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>>257068125
Fuck that fucking demon, he gave me more trouble than Sarevok. I had to buff my party up with every buff under the sun and cast a dozen fireballs to kill those fucking cultists, and even then I had to constantly retry over and over because he would cast that fucking death spell that would automatically kill you after a couple turns.
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>>257068516
meant to reply
>>257068125
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>>257067403
>it's how I beat the last boss
Is there any other strategy that works? Short of nuking him with fireballs, exploding arrows, and exploding potions I can never take him down without spamming some kind of bullshit.

Late night BG thread? Late night BG thread.
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>>257068593
yeah I could do that but where's the fun in that?
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>>257067289
I have because i couldn't play normal one because of being so small res and enhanced seems right
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>>257065845
>use ranged weapons, like a sling

This. You basically need ranged weapons to survive during the first few levels. It's basically low level AD&D - a meat grinder.
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>>257068828
It's not like it's paralized forever, it also fails most of the time.
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>>257068808
I managed to beat Sarevok relatively easily. I buffed my party up, summoned some monsters to get the mages to waste their spells on, then I lured Sarevok away from the rest of his allies and just gangbanged him into oblivion.
>>257068937
Just download the mods that Enhanced comes with. The only thing the EE has that you can't get normally is fanfaction tier companions.
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>>257068808

I've beaten him head on once with giving minsc and ajantis every buff and potion in the world and letting them go to town while the rest of my party deals with the mages, but even then it's like 50/50 and if he crits a few times everybody dies
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>>257069094
Well, i allready got it so i can't change it now, but is the game itself any worse in enhanced?
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>>257069094
>>257069125
I need to step it up then. It's been a long time since I played BG1 so I'll have to give it a whirl and fight him toe-to-toe.
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>>257069194

I haven't played enhanced but I imagine it's just a bunch of mediocre content that was added and nothing too detrimental
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>>257069194
I heard it had a handful of bugs on release but they should have sent a patch out by now. Added some lame characters no one cares about, but changed nothing else as far as I know.
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>>257069194
Not really worse, but you just wasted your money for nothing but stolen mods and shitty characters.
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"Enhanced Edition" a pile of shit, just get high res mods for BG1.
>>257065541
What is your party?
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>>257069194
The game itself isn't worse, it has 3 more shitty companions (good, evil and neutral) and official widescreen support and that's pretty much it.
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>>257069636
Well thats ok, at least it is pretty and i don't have to fuck with mods and can continue being casual
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Anyone here ever played the Trilogy Mod? It combines Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and their expansions into one seamless game using the Throne of Bhaal engine. I've been playing it for the last couple months and it's pretty fucking neat, it's also nice being able to create boots of speed for your party so that you don't walk at a snail's pace for 300 hours.
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>>257069949
Played it for a bit, it's not for the first time player. If you carry over party members from BG1 who aren't present in BG2 they basically have nothing to say the entire game, and party interaction is one of the most interesting features in that game.
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>>257069949
>it's also nice being able to create boots of speed
CLUAConsole:CreateItem("boot01")
CLUAConsole:CreateItem("scrl75",100)

Still have it memorized after all these years.
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>>257070176
I don't think you can carry over party members. I had Dyanheir and Khalid in my party in BG 1 and because they canonically died in Irenicus' dungeon they can't be found in the game.
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>>257069949
I just turn up the walkspeed with the tweak pack mod

Anyway yeah Trilogy is the way to go, plus the mods listed here are pretty cool
http://www.gog.com/news/enhance_the_gameplay_in_your_edition_of_baldurs_gate_from_gogcom
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>>257070293
Aside from those who died canonically, in BGT you still can recruit every BG1 character who weren't in original BG2, and they retain their levels and shit.
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>>257070579
Are you sure you're thinking of the same mod as I? Because all the BG1 companions that I've found in BG2 cannot be recruited.
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>>257070694
I probably played some other compilation then. Maybe it was The Big Picture or something.

Anyway, play a Ranger (ranged) or Swashbuckler (melee/backstab whore). Or multiclass an illusionist/fighter gnome for maximum carnage.
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If you're a thief or a derivative, don't put any points above 100 into skills, it's a waste. You'll also only need detect illusion at the end of BG2, it's virtually useless in the first game.
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>>257071452
I wouldn't recommend playing a ranger as MC. You can recruit Kivan early on and then replace him with Coran, the best archer in the game.
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>>257070694
>>257071452
No, It's in BGT, but it requires the BGT Tweak Pack (which, honestly, should be included in every BGT install)
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>>257069949
I never play Baldur's Gate without the Trilogy mod anymore. I started with that and it just feels natural. There's really no reason to skip BG1, if you have that. Plus, your character is stronger if you played him through BG1.
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Wow, this game is full of memes, but they're all 90s movie memes instead of internet memes like Borderlands.
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[resting intensifies]
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>>257069194
Not at this time, but it was horribly buggy (and overpriced) at release and really only worth playing a year after release and with several patches.
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>>257073243
you must gather your party before venturing forth!
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While BG does have a better story (well a story) compared to Ice Wind Dale, I enjoyed IWD more. The towns were comfy as fuck and I enjoyed some of the class interaction.

>start with a bard in the first city
>get like 3 more quests and quite a bit more gold right of the get go
>have a paladin with you
>usually there is a part where you can infiltrate a enemy cult place
>fucking paladin in my group is like "I CAN SENSE YOUR EVIL AURA, HAVE AT THEE!"
>gazillion enemies come at you

Fuckin' Paladins.
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>>257069949
Yeah I use it, it's good.
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>>257073827
>The towns were comfy as fuck
God damn it IWD is so fucking comfy, I have restarted it millions of times just because of the atmosphere at the start. And dat music.

BG2 is my overall favorite though
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>>257073827
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>>257074287
>dat voice acting
Simpler story but delivered much better than Baldur's Gate's ever was.
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Related question, I started playing Temple of Elemental Evil yesterday and its way harder than what I remember. I'm fucking stuck, I can't kill "the master" in the lower level of the moathouse, nor the giant on that old battlefield or the undead priest+guards triggered by looting some stone in the same area. Anywhere else I can go and exp up or am I just playing awful? I got a paladin, a cleric, a barbarian, a rouge and a wizard.
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>>257074403
>that note in Hrothgar's chest
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>>257074960
When will games have soul again?
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I serve the Flaming Fist!
Ho there wanderer; stay thy course for a moment to indulge an old man...
If we ever become separated it is imperative that you make your way to the Friendly Arms Inn... there you will meet Khalid and Jaheira. They have long been my friends and you cna trust them.
Your voice is ambrosia... STOP TOUCHING ME!
I warrant your attention? Oh frabjous day, calloo kalley...
Heya, it's me Imoen!
My hotel's as clean as an elven arse!
So I kicked him in the head 'til he was dead! Hahahah!
Why don't we all just lie down and die?
Butt kicking for goodness!
A rare display of intelligence... undoubtedly fleeting.

Why is Baldur's Gate so fucking good I remember these lines after fifteen year
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>>257075784
Burned into my brain for life
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>>257075550
When everyone but niche gamers stops buying them.
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Go and exp a bit in Firewine Ruins. No better spot to vain a few easy levels!
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>>257067134
Save vs Wands
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>>257074287
Looks like Commandos 2
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>>257073827
>implying Candlekeep isn't comfy as fuck
Got my savegame ruined by IWD at some point, since then I haven't been able to play it.
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>>257065541

It's pretty difficult. What I did was to give everyone else bows, and have my fighters rush forward and tie up the bad guys.

The AI is kind of archaic, and controlling all six party members can be an exercise in frustration. There's a weird delay to spells; Sometimes, they just don't start casting. More, sometimes even with the AI chosen, they'll stand there and not defend themselves as people swing at them.

But yeah, a lot of projectile weapons. LOTS OF THEM. Even the Wizards and the Clerics should have Slings, just to take potshots. You never know when you get lucky.

(Khalid is a pretty good archer, and he doesn't panic when he's not in melee combat. In Cloakwood, you can meet the most awesome archer ever.)
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>>257077919
Archers are fucking broken.
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>>257065541
I must have retarded this game a hundred times and I've only finished it once or twice. I always end up bored with the class i choose and want to try a new one
How do i stop?
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>>257078027

It's hilariously hard to survive as a low-level Wizard in AD&D. You get one, maybe two spells a day, that usually can't kill someone unless you get lucky. Collateral damage can be even worse.

No wonder they get ridiculously powerful at high levels. Still, Baldur's Gate makes it particularly difficult to drop area-effect spells on targets, because they keep coming towards you. Better aim that Entangle (Which is fucking annoying), Web (which lasts FOREVER) and Lightning Bolt (Which will rebound so many times, it'll turn everyone you love into bloody confetti) carefully.
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>>257078209
>retarded
Meant restarted
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>>257078234
Or just use Sleep and let your companion do the work
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When i played BGEE i used shadowkeper to slightly modify the movement speed of characters in game and somewhat alter the base stats of characters i like but who have useless stats.
You can slo use it to change the class of characters i thik i changed jahere in to a true druid instead of multi class Druid/Fighter.
And i changed one guy forgot his name from a ranger kit that has a back stab to the class kit archer because i pretty much used him as an archer anyway.
I also raised Imoens Int to 18 from 17 so she can cast lvl 9 spells.
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>>257078234
It's really funny, if you play the archer way almost everything becomes a cakewalk, but if you get ambushed while traveling it can get really nasty because enemies are relatively close to you and it's kinda hard to maintain your defense line, so it often happens that one of your spell casters in training gets killed.
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>>257078395

Yeah, that keeps happening. Pathfinding is also borked, because you sometimes get characters running absolutely fucking everywhere.

The Kobold Maze in the halfling village is a particularly bad example. Don't get me started on Cloakwood.
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BG1 you pretty much have to be in tip top shape (rested) before a fight, and after a fight, rest again unless your fighting like only kobolds, archers are OP as fuck in BG1 because most fights its a ton of fucking snipers pushing your shit.

Mages are only there for fireball or summon.

Whats nice about BG2EE, is that by default it has the bg fixpack installed, and the ai is improved as fuck.

Every fucking fight against humans, they ALWAYS use haste potions, and the mages always cast haste.

Vanilla bg2 wasnt this hard.
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>>257078027
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For Icewind Dale 2, i read that going 4 party member is the way to do it, should i?
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>>257065541
What's the best class for the PC in a full evil party in BG2?
I'll play the EE with the new chara so i will have an evil Blackguard and thief
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>they open up kits for BGEE
>pick monk
>absolutely godam useless for the entire game

Truly this is an exercise in patience.
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>>257078668
>thief
But Hexxat sucks.
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>>257078668
Evil party has the best npc for each important slot except maybe a melee.
Best Cleric :Viconia (evil)
Best fighter Korgan (fighter)/Keldorn (good)/Dorn (Evil)
best mage: Edwin (evil), Neera (abusing wild mage shit)
best thief: Hexatt (evil) yoshimo (nuetral)

So you practically can be anyone and it doesn't matter.
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>>257078685
Monks are OP in BG 2.
Thai are peaty much immune to everything except magical weapons.
And have a high armor class by default.
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>>257078485
>not using Arrow of Biting
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>>257078902
nah, their better then baseline fighters, but arent nowhere near as good as any real powergaming character.
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>>257078938
>using Arrow of Biting on a mage
>he fails his save
Truly the best feeling
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>>257078864
>Hexxat sucks
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>>257065541
>How do I not suck balls at BG1?
Read the manual. It has a lot of useful info on all the obtuse AD&D bullshit.
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>>257069949
>I've been playing it for the last couple months and it's pretty fucking neat, it's also nice being able to create boots of speed for your party so that you don't walk at a snail's pace for 300 hours.
Just set the AI refresh speed to 60.
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How much trouble does it cause to have characters of conflicting alignments in your party? I chose my main to be a lawful good paladin but I might want an evil character or two to stick around.
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You will get your shit wrecked until you learn that debuffs aber much more valuable than simply buffing yourself. You definitly want to have sleep and horror in your backhand, at later stages in the game fire a greater malison first and fear your enemies afterwards, it's worth it trust me.
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>>257082585
They will try to randomly leave at some point if your reputation is high and they will definitely leave if your reputation is 20.
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>>257065541
Get a bow. Bows kick ass in BG.
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>>257082585

you might have incidents where they try to murder each other

apart from that it's fiiiine

edwin is worth it
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Baldur's Gate will eat your sorry ass if you don't minmax. There's no reason to have "roleplay" stats unless you want to reroll for ten hours in order to get a ridiculous statscores. So if you play a fighter be prepared to have wis and int as dump stats. Well it's either that or you spend several hours pressing "reroll".
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What are recommendable mods for my third playthrough ? Want to spice things up a bit but there's so goddamn much to choose from.
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>>257077919
Cloakwood? Wasn't Kivan in High Hedge? He's the best archer I think. Elf, high dex, ranger class, give him a composite bow of accuracy and bracers of accuracy and his thac0 will be like 9 upon joining. There's nothing that motherfucker couldn't hit.
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>>257083405

ascension for ToB ofc

longer road if you don't mind a lot of words and going off the rails, unfinished business I guess, sword coast stratagems
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>>257083350
This is why I like Planescape Torment. If I want to roleplay as an extremely smart Fighter who mostly talks his way out of situations I can just take Int Wis and Charisma, but if someone is being a bitch I can still kick their ass. In Baldurs Gate there's no reason not to put everything in Str and Con.
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>>257083482
>I'm 15, installing BG for the first time
>these fucking confusing stats
>thac0
>To Hit Armor Class 0
>my face when I figured out the combat system all by myself and the game suddenly became 10 times easier
I never played the pen&paper RPG
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>>257065541
You go get Jaheira and become used to use her vines spell to tangle enemies. Control spells of any kind are the best. Be a mage yourself and get more useful tools.
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>>257071736
Detect illusion is also helpful in the circus, when you can quickly dispell werewolf illusions. Other than that, this skill really has no use.
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pro-tip: dual shar-teel into thief
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>>257087346
>>257087450
>>257087561
>tfw backstabbing become useless in BG2
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>>257074861
Party seems solid. I'd recommend using crowd control spells - sleep, web, color spray etc. Aoe dmg spells that early in the game are not too useful.
I guess you remember to buff your party as well?

Also, those giants on the battlefield are a nightmare for a party without disables. I can only kill them with web/grease combo. Other than that, I always die to them.

For anyone thinking of picking up ToEE, I recommend Circle of Eight modpack. Good stuff.
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>>257087672
I got the modpack installed, I only really have sleep and charm for any sort of control, charm=dominate so its kindof OP but can apparently corrupt your saves if you use it too often so I try not to use it. The only real buff I have is bless from my cleric. Do I have to clear the moathouse before I unlock the second city and the temple?
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>>257087932
IIRC, only after clearing Moathouse you have the option of knowing the location of ToEE - and traveling to the second city. Did you do every quest in the first village? If you're lacking exp, just travel a bit between locations and fight random ambushes.
But Moathouse should be manageable with 2-3lvl party members.
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>>257078514
It means you're getting more exp that way. It's also less frustrating for some people when they don't have to control 4 party members.
I once went with 3 members and it was fun. Cleric and Wizard/Sorcerer are obligatory.
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>>257068208
He is kind of right, cheesing is a requirement early on.
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>>257065541

Complete as many minor quests as you can including all the ones in Candle Keep. Simple fetch quests like locating rings or delivering items from A to B.

Also add NPC even if you don't want them to grab scrolls etc.
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>>257088125
I'm level 3, I did the spy quest for the brothers, don't think I found any other quests in the city. Maybe I should go back and see if I can get some better gear, btw do you know if dwarfs can use twohanded weapons without (size)penalty?
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>>257088351
There's plenty of quests in the city, but they mostly consist of talking and running around. For some of them you need high talking skills.

I have no idea about any penalties on dwarfs. My knowledge of D&D 3.5 is not that good.
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>>257087298
>detect illusion
>no use
It's a 100% True Sight that doesn't take up spell slots, is always available and doesn't run out when activated. It also dispells mirror images, invicibility and hide in shadows.
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>>257088564
I'll try a bit more and if nothing works I'll reroll my party for some better stats and start over.
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BY MORADIN'S HAMMER!
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>>257088857
Cool, didn't know that. Always used True Sight for detection.
But using Detect Illusions means that thief has to be useless for a short period of time, because when he attacks, he stops using the skill, right? Still, it's cool to know that this skill might be useful sometimes.
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Keep it up OP, it's worth it. And read the manual, that's all you need.
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As a kid I played through BG2 with a good aligned party not really knowing what I was doing. Got as far as the final fight in ToB before giving up cause I just couldn't beat it.

Now more recently I tried to play through the entire series with the BWP modpack. Thing is though, BG1 became a bit dull when I realized I was playing with my BG2 party except at low levels.

Are the evil NPCs as interesting and fun as the good ones? Maybe a playthrough in the complete opposite alignment would be fun.
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>>257087628
>instagibbing mages
>useless

My assassin with booth of speed and improved haste was the most satisfying run so far, backstabbing that whole fire giant lair feels good man.
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>>257089479
A thief is useless against a mislead, mirror imaged mage anyway.
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>>257090942
Do boots of haste and improved haste even stack?
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>>257091495
Probably. The boots and normal haste does stack.
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>>257091674
But the description on boots of haste said, that they don't stack. Or was it on boots/gauntlets of improved haste?
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>>257072504
But anon, Kivan is the best non MC archer. Iirc Khalid is 2nd best
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Can this be considered as the biggest easter egg in gaming? Three games long.
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OP here, after taking the general advice and putting 2/3 of the party on ranged mode with two tanks and two characters with vines for lockdown/cc I'm kicking ass and taking names and the game is fun now. Thank for the help, all.
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>>257092153
This looks like Gaider's work.
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Is multi-classing ever a good idea? I hear plenty of people argue in favor of dual classing but never much about multi.
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>>257093240
Aerie is the best multiclass you can have in this game.

F/M/T is one of the best multiclass to solo the BGT through.
If you're planning on playing 6-man party, there's really no point in multiclassing, as there won't be enough exp to reach the level cap anyway.
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>>257093240
Multi-classing is more about grinding, whereas dual-classing is more of a preplanned concept with instant results at a certain point in the game.
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>>257093240
Both are extremely powerful. Each has a level range when it is better than the other one. Go with it only if you don't mind your MC making the rest of the party obsolete.
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>>257093834
This couldn't be more false. If you multi-class, you will be very average throughout the mid game and only truly powerful at the end.
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>>257093789
>>257093808
>>257093834

Well I wanted to make a fighter but just a straight up fighter felt kinda boring. But then again, my idea of a F/T would be pretty silly anyways. A proper thief could do my job much better.
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>>257094232
Berserker/Cleric
Kensai/Mage
You can't go wrong with those. You will become World Raper, Destroyer of Demogorgons.
Either dual at 9th lvl or 12th (at 12 you only get bonus half an attack per round, or was it at 13lvl?).
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well when you're new to the game it's just tough at first. and get used to dying. it'll happen a lot. from stupid traps to fights you uknowingly stumble on. but you'll get better. not just in stats but strategy.

have roles. a tank, a healer, thief/archer.
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>>257094232
Dual class fighter/cleric. It's one of the best combos along with the kensai/mage build.

Don't ever multi-class, unless you play solo/2 characters max, because exp will be shared so much among all of the levels.

With multi-class, you level up evenly on all of the classes, which makes you extremely subpar.

Always dual-class instead, unless you wanna grind mid game.
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>>257094434
>>257094530

>Berserker/Cleric
>Fighter/Cleric

Sounds nifty. Let's go with that.
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I don't remember playing much of this game, but I do remember three things from it

- I gave my guy a sword and I couldn't remove it, I think it was a cursed blade
- I got my ass kicked by some guy called Doom guard or doom singer or whatever he's name is
- I always thought the magic missile spell looked really cool in this game

It was fun though.. I should really play through it properly one day
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>>257094678
Do you know how dual-classing works, though?

You will be locked out of your previous class, until you level up your new, secondary class.

You need to plan ahead, and collect things like scrolls for fast experience (if it's Kensai/Mage obviously).
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>>257094227
Multi-classing only becomes good in ToB, which many consider to be noncanon fanfiction garbage.
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>>257094227
Then you have no idea what you're talking about. All fighter/* combos break the game from level 1 and make soloing trivial.
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>>257094678
Also, it's important to realize, the higher you level up your Kensai, the stronger the combination will end up being due to better thac0 and such. Optimal build for Kensai/Mage requires you to level up Kensai up to the 14th level for best Thac0, and then it takes a long time of exping a subpar mage until you get back your previous class.

It can really become tedious, you know.
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>>257095086
>many consider

I haven't met or seen one person that claims this. Not even on /v/.
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>>257095108
Shut the fuck up, you're a fucking retarded, clueless dumbshit. BG1 broken from level 1? How fucking stupid are you?

Multi-classing takes ages for you to level up, and why would you even need 3 classes to share exp between AND the rest of your party? Have you even played the game, you stupid, little shit?

Multi-classing is only fun and overpowered, unless you take time to grind, because of how split your exp will be, so you only become good in ToB or long after underdark, which is fucking boring.

Stop talking out of your fat, retarded asshole, you fucking nerd.
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>>257095525
I claim this and I have seen others claiming this.
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>>257095550
>soloing
>AND the rest of your party
Please pay attention.
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>>257095612
many consider you a retard
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>>257065541
How do I get past the wizard assassin guy at the Friendly Arm Inn?
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>>257095550
No, you stop talking, you cunt. That guy was talking about soloing. And actually, he's right. Even in party multiclassed characters are god tier. Just look at Aerie - best combo for spellcasting.

>>257095612
Elaborate on that "fanfiction" part. Writing in ToB is not the best, but everyone and their mothers know it's about big fights with other Bhaalspawns + Watcher's Keep.
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What sucks about enhanced edition?
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>>257095612
Let's put it like this: no one doubts BG2 is better than ToB in many ways, but ToB still has that BG2 charm, and it's really fun to see your characters being pushed to the limit.

It's good. Gaider did have a part in it, but it's still an above average experience.
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>>257095751
What's your class/party ?
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>>257074287
playing for the first time, just got to temple of the forgotten god

godamn what a good game, cant remember the last time i was hooked like this
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>>257095751
Ah, the bane of every new BG player.
Try disrupting him with magic missile spell if you have any. If you dont, just rush him with everything you've got and pray that you'll be lucky.
If you didn't take Xzar with you, you might be fucked. The most importang thing is dispelling his mirror image and magic missile works wonders for that.
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>play baldur's gate as kid
>leave starting area
>walk to inn
>mage kills me at the door
>play baldur's gate as adult
>leave starting area
>walk to inn
>kill mage by kiting him to a guard to deal with him
>feel like I've completed the game
>never play it again
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>>257095776
>That guy was talking about soloing
And he was retarded because OP isn't a BG veteran, so he obviously won't want to solo the game. How fucking hard is that to grasp?

Stop being autistic.
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>>257095776
>Elaborate on that "fanfiction" part.
Look at the BG2 ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf9kleGOupc
Now play ToB. How do those things fit together? They don't.
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>>257095820
Didn't Gaider redeem himself with Ascension mod?
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>>257095751
I'm not even joking.
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>>257095984
Yeah, Ascension was pretty great, and he apparently coded it in his spare time.

Too bad he had to become the devil incarcante since he obviously was no stranger to good gameplay.

And now it's all about cisquisition and console pandering. Fucking EA.
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>>257095961
Do they have to fit? BG1 doesn't fit BG2 either, they are about entirely different things.
Since BG1 we knew that we were going to fight other Bhaalspawns, so ToB seems like a logical continuation. What's your point exactly? Are you pointing at that council having no place in ToB?
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>>257095086
I don't agree with this, if we're talking about starting a character in BG1 and carrying through.

Multiclassing is strong until around level 7-10 (slow-progression-high progression,) because you benefit from mitigating the XP requirement to level doubling every time.

It's only when that slows down and then stops entirely that multiclasses fall behind; a F/T with 161k XP (ToTSC cap) is 7/8, whereas single class fighters and thieves are 8 and 10 respectively, he's barely behind. Whereas a F/T with 2.95 million XP (BG2 vanilla cap) is 13/16 vs 19 and 23, respectively. It's obviously more extreme for casters, since arriving at key spells like pierce magic late fucks you over a lot more than having somewhat lower THAC0.
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>>257095751
Wand of magic missile timed to interrupt his cast. Or just send Montaron in first and have him take it to the face.
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>>257065541
Switch it to turnbased in the options because playing bg in real time is blasphemy
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>>257095550
You express yourself like a twirp, but I'll respond anyway. Experience gain is not linear, meaning you'll never be more than 1 or 2 levels behind a single class, and taking the mc's stats into account you'll still be better than any npc. Grind? Nonsense, even with a full party you won't need to. But the main point is combining class features: e.g. a single class thief backstab can be useful from time to time but it still mostly suck in thac0 and dmg. On the other hand a figher/thief with the bonuses from exceptional str and weapon specialization almost never fails a bs, you can literally go and take on drizzt or the durlag's guards at level 1 and take them down in a few rounds.
Another example, the cleric's insta-death on hit spell from bg2, Sounds good, but the problem is you never hit anything. With a F/C it's just the opposite, you never miss. Enjoy killing anything in the game by just clicking on it.
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>>257065541
Stick with at least Normal, there is no artificial difficulty in BG. So, if you are Dark Souls fag, you should enjoy a little challenge.

Have 2 fighters , 1 cleric, 1 thief, 1 mage and rest what you like.
Take Imoen.Go where Gorion died, there is always something there, pick up Montaron /Xzar and Jaheira/Khalid.
BG is known for chezzy tactics, so first scout with thief.Use all skills/spells that are available to you.

When I played it back in 1998, only fucked up fight was in front of Friendly Arm Inn, that assassin always killed one of my crew but , you can run away and come back when you are stronger.

Chin up , it's a good game(personally i like it more than BG2 but it's blasphemy to say something like that anywhere on the net), you will become monster in no time.
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>>257097061
And all of that works much better wif you dual-class instead.
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>>257065841
I have original and EE, trust me, stick with original with 3G Hi-Res mod. It's simple, they are full of shit talking like modding Inf.Eng. is complicated.
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>tfw those umbar hulks in Nalia's stronghold would always fuck you up
>tfw you always forgot about making the dog meat stew to distract them
>tfw you learn that one cloudkill spell would immediately kill them all with no effort on your part
Feels good to hear their death songs simultaneously
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>>257097685
Just use haste and kill them in melee.
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>>257097420
That's right, until you hit the end of bg2 and get HLAs. And that's why I mentioned level ranges.
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>>257097061
Good job, you responded with trivial shit, and nothing related to actually multi-classing in BG2, which is shit and sucks compared to dual-classing.

You're just as dumb as I expected.
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>>257097762
You forget that that mass cast confusion, and Nalia's fortress is early in the game, you just don't have the equipment to protect your whole party against it.
>>257098027
Fuck off faggot, I'm neither of the guys you're responding to but your needlessly aggressive and shitflinging attitude is shitting up a good thread.
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>>257098027
Don't be so butthurt my good sir.
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>>257097685
>be thief
>place traps on the way to the dog stew
>get twice the xp
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So besides haste, is there any point to mages in general?
Having to rest after every encounter because the prince needs his beaty sleep is annoying.
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>>257095857
Haven't played it in years. Thought about retrying it again but remembered that guy.

>>257095887
>>257096668
Thanks guys.
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Any advice for stomping this cunt?
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>>257098261
They have encounter-ending spells, eventually dozens of them. At the beginning try sleep/horror against groups or blind/chromatic orb against big baddies.
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>tfw six discs
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>>257075550
Im Black Isle/Troika/crpg fag that was neglected by industry for 15 years.
I feel like mummified vampire who slept for 1000 years and now someone drops a little blood on me.
Divinity:Original Sin, Wasteland 2, Pillars of Eternity,Torment Numenera.

It's the only thing keeping me from selling PC and saying :"FUCK YOU!" to gaming hobby.
Last 15 years being a gamer was endless cycle of waiting for that one really great game and when it came out it was a fucking disappointment.
For the first time I am not afraid to say that we may have couple of really good games in near future.
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Do you think it'll recapture the magic?
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I've got two questions. I'm running BwP and I can't find Viconia. She hasn't spawned in Peldvale, nor any of the nearby areas. Has something gone wrong?

Also I don't remember where to go after Nashkel mines because there's so many fucking areas you have to unlock by going to the edge of different maps. Where do I go to get the city of baldur's gate to open up?
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>>257098161
Make me.
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>literally every fight in these games consists of buffing as much as possible, killing the spellcaster first, and praying to RNG/being so buffed and exploited that RNG doesn't matter

No disrespect but infinity engine games are shit. Shit roleplaying, shit tactics.
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>>257099627
Viconia might be in the woods south of Beregost. "You can find her at the area south of Beregost, very top of the map, west from the road." She's moved by a mod that shoves all the NPCs only available later on closer to the start (so no Coran in Cloakwood, etc.)

I think you're meant to go kill Tranzig in Beregost after Nashkel, if you mean the main quest. You need to follow the main quest to access the city proper, since the bridge will be up even if you arrive there now, blocking your path.
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>>257100578
Explains why whenever these threads pop up, all everyone talks about is babbies first D&D aka Baldur's Gate.
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what you guys think about ps2 BG //?
which is better
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>>257101115
what should people talk about in BG1 thread?
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>>257101115
God forbid we talk about BG in a BG thread.
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>>257100860
If you mean that area just below beregost before nashkel pass with the submerged, I've already mapped every square inch of it with no luck. I hadn't planned on using her but it is flaring my sperg-senses.
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'Ere now, get out, I don't like your type in 'ere!
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>>257101258
ps is a better roleplaying game
bg is a better dungeon crawler

>>257101285
talk about how bad these games are. it's what happens in every other bioware thread :^)
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>>257095550
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>>257099374
No.
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>>257097061
>You express yourself like a twirp, but I'll respond anyway.
>You express yourself like a twirp, but I'll respond anyway.
>You express yourself like a twirp, but I'll respond anyway.

Heh...pshh....nothin' personnel kid
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>>257101926
>ps is a better roleplaying game
>bg is a better dungeon crawler

what the fuck are you even talking about
he was asking about the PS2 games presumably Dark Alliance
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>>257101926
Indeed, 2nd BG was the sign of things to come with Bioware.
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>>257101732
I've not tested it myself, but that's what several different posts indicate. Top left of the map just below Beregost. If she's not there you could try spawning her through the console, don't know if that breaks anything since the Flaming Fist guy isn't gonna be there, though.
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>>257101732
pretty sure she is in the top left corner of the area with basilisks
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>>257102978
That is Shar-Teel
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>>257103431
I found Shar-Teel in Naskel Pass so it could be the basilisk monument, although I'm fairly sure I scouted that entire area.
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What are some general tips for BG1? I love and have beaten BG2 several times but BG1 always feels like a slog to me and I literally can't get past the first few areas. I've tried a few times to play a mage and it was just suicide.
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>>257099374
Yes.
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>>257104361
>Ranged weapon are god tier
>Sleep is god tier
there, that's all you need
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Is that a good roll?
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>>257104706
yes
op even
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>>257104706
>Anything but 18/00
It's shit; that's a paladin, right?
Lower wisdom and raise con to 18 as well.
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>>257069563
stolen mods?
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>>257105036
>18/00
There's no point in having 18/00 when you can permanently raise your strength to 19
And i don't need more than 18 to wield a composite longbow anyway
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>>257105127
Same shit as with GOG selling stolen property.
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>>257105036
>that's a paladin, right?
Elf ranger
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>>257105127
The higher resolution on the EE and bug fixes were taken from fanmade mods.
>>257105889
>Stolen property
Buying the rights to games and then selling the games isn't stealing property.
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I just reinstalled Icewind Dale and currently slapping mods onto it. Need suggestions of what will make up my 4 person party
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>>257107483
4 dwarfs.
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>>257107671

Alright. Classes?
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>>257099374
>Obsidian writing
>cRPG
absolutely
I can't fucking wait.
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>>257107779
Thieves
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>>257107779
3 fighters and 1 fighter/cleric.
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>>257107825
>based Sawyer is behind most mechanics
My dick
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>>257107483

Install IWD2 and play with me.
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>>257107779
Use Dalekeeper to hack them to Bards.
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>>257107846
>>257107916
>>257108023

Alright. A fighter, fighter/cleric, thief, and bard
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>>257074287

Fuck, now I remember where I got stuck in IWD and stopped playing.

That fucking forest maze with the physical immune will o wisps or whatever the fuck they were. FUCK that place.
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>>257108023
IWD1 has the most useful bards of any D&D cRPG. War Chant of the Sith is ridiculous, and it's swarming with bard only items. Still pretty much useless having more than one, though.
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>>257108280
i am certain that they only included that in the game to make the wilderness skill not completely useless.
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>>257104706
If it's ranger, you should have max con or 17 if elven and then 19 dex.
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>>257108985

Yeah I couldn't beat that Will O' Wisps, Witch Light, and Death's Candles fight because those fuckings kept teleporting all over the fucking place, shitting electric damage every time they got hit and raping my healers. Not to mention they were all magic immune so fuck that.
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>>257066083
>You miss out on a lot of good mods without much of a gain

All of the major mods are fully compatable now except for BG1NPC, and that's currently in beta and being actively patched every day. Should be fully compatible soon.

Also, there is a mod that lets you re-implement the old cutscenes. BG:EE isn't nearly as bad as it use to be.
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>>257110050

Shame the multiplayer in BG2 is still fucked like no other
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i should have bought the EE

instead i jewed and bought the original version on gog. at least it was on sale.
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>>257110050
>>257110131
>>257111170
How is the multiplayer in EE? I kind of like the idea of playing it with my bro and he might be able to run it on his toaster but I'm kind of wary of it.
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>download and install shit-ton of npc mods
>always use vanilla party

What are the best mods you've used for the BG games
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>>257109232
Like this
>>257111604
Download Saerileth
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I just got BG 2 original version. Any must have mods I should know about?
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>>257111910
>Download Saerileth
>the premier choice for weeb pedos

already have it, thanks anyway :^)
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>>257111910
Showing the THAC0 calculation and damage range in the EE is probably the best thing they added.
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>>257111447

Great when it works, shitty when it doesn't. BG1 seems to be alright, but BG2 EE crashes when you switch acts
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Baldur's gate 3 when?
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>>257113512
Hopefully never.
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>>257113648
Why?
Don't you want bg3 with fully gay Npc?
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>>257113817
They'd probably go beyond that by then.
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>>257114264
>Valygar: hey, want to play sweaty grab-ass with me?
>CHARNAME: no thanks.
>Your alignment has shifted to Chaotic Evil.
>You are now a fallen paladin.
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>>257114683
>implying they'll give you a choice
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>>257098557
if you have a high lvl thief put the most damaging trap (spike? i don't remember how it was called) where she spawns, place three of those and she is almost dead
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