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So what's the rationale behind sticking sticking a tentacle in a dude's face after it rots off due to corprus?

I never understood to point. Is it just dagoth ur being batshit crazy?

TES lore thread
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It's a proboscis, not a tentacle
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>>256711914
so he can drink goyim blood.
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>>256711914
Can they really play music with it or was that just fanart
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>>256709846
They're used to rape wood elf waifus
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>>256711914
No, they literally get a tentacle installed after their face falls off. Give me a minute to dig through imperial-library, there's a book on the process.
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just a sec let's get this thread kicked off, give me a moment
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>>256714614


>>256711914
Sorry, I misremembered.

>The next step in the evolutionary process of one of Ur's servants is the "Ash Zombie". During this faze the Ash Slaves face becomes brittle and falls off leaving a gaping hole. During this time the servant loses its magical ability but gains considerable strength.

>Next comes the "Ash Ghoul". After a certain amount of time the corprus inside the Ash Zombie starts to grow a strange tentacle like appendage out of the hole in the zombies face. In this form they gain a consideral amount of magical ability and are also very strong fighters. Some of Dagoth Ur's closest compainions are Ash Ghouls.

>The final step would seem to be the "Ascended Sleeper". The tentacle growths inside the ghouls head eventualy completely emerge and a new head is grown where the old one was. These beings are incredibly strong and are the pinicle of what a servant of Dagoth Ur can achieve.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/corprus

It grows, not gets installed.
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>those flesh holes
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Who /CHIM/ here?
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I wonder how it feels coming in
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>>256715339
Maybe a dull pain. Like teeth growing in a childs mouth maybe?
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>>256715339
>skywind
Full pleb
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>>256715339
LIKE THE DIVINE REACHING DOWN AND DRAWING OUT YOUR TRUE SELF
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>>256715636
So, kinda itchy?
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>>256715565
It'll probably disappoint but I'll probably get it just to see what all those models look like ingame.
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>>256709846
Those things still terrify me
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>>256716757
Oh really? I mean I'm sure there are more terrifying things
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>>256714879
>give me a moment
>15 minutes ago
Teach me about sixth house faggot. I can't remember shit.
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>>256717096
Cliff Racers aren't scary
Because our lord and god Saint Jiub eradicated them
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>>256715146
Oh is that what those faggots were? I thought they were just some dudes in masks and the least scary baddies ever. I just walked up and hit them with my sword and zero fucks were given.

I might go back and replay now this new info has come to light.
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>>256717404
Annoying though. And they did have a habit of sneaking up on you.
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>>256718086
But you can hear that piercing gurgley caw from miles away
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>>256716439
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Give me something fun to do in Morrowind. Ive completed the Morag Tong and Theives Guild (which was a complete let down).

First playthrough so I probably havent done it if you suggest it. kinda bored with 100 str, agi, and speed.
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>>256717096
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>reinstall morrowind
>hunt down mods for a few days
>install
>have a blast for a few more
>try and reinstall book rotate cause I found a good place for my telvanni battlemage/imperial legionnaire to set up shop
>doesn't work, ever
>patch files with book rotate tool
>still dont work
>uninstall morrowind cause im mad as fuck

and now here I am, reinstalling. Thank god I saved all my mods.

But I want book rotate to work so fucking bad.
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>>256718660
ALWAYS join a great house (since you can only join 1 and the perks are always decent)
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I AM CYRODIIL COME
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>>256718660
>kinda bored with 100 str, agi, and speed.

You're kind of doing it wrong. Character progression and enemies that you have to fight tooth and nail with the help of consumables temple blessings and shit is a big part of the experience.
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>>256718309
That's the thing. You are always hearing one.
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>>256719325
Reman Cyrodiil cumming on his enemies corpses with his hands free fapping powers was far more interesting.
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>>256719262

which one is the best?
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>>256719974
Yes.
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>>256720112
what
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>>256719974
Depends on your character, and what house you like the best.


That said, Telvani all the way.
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>There will never be a game where the ability to translate text written on walls and shit will have any actual use
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>>256720258
Which house has the best politics?
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>>256720531
Yes
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Daggerfall > Morrowind
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>>256719132
>Reinstall Morrowind
>MGSO, because duh.
>Get tipped off about Morrowind Rebirth which looks awesome and promises a new playthrough I haven't experienced yet.
>Install issues
>Spend a bunch of time trying to get shit working, not happening.
>Finally get it working fine, fix the dumb-ass issues I was having, and it plays perfectly and looks great.
>Well, except for the lack of grass, but I can deal.
>My CPU cooler gives out and I can't play video games for fear of burning out the computer

Suffering.
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>>256720942

We know
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My wizard is too squishy. Was unarmored skill a bad choice? Should I just train up my skills so I can have higher int so i can actually cast spells that do damage?
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>>256721196
>installing graphics mods for morrowind

kill yourself.
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>>256721723
Oh bby post some of those muddy, low-rest vanilla texture screenshots so I can cum looking at them!

Nigga, fuck off.
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>>256721973
That looks even worse than vanilla.
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>you will never catch corprus
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>>256722558
GOOD

Why would you ever want that zombie AIDS shit?
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>>256722558
>mfw when you want no face
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>>256715146
That's fanmade, bro.
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Suddenly I want to play as a bugchaser-character, who tries to get infected with all sorts of diseases.
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>>256722558
Why would you ever want corprus?
Are you stupid anon?
Has anyone told you that you are stupid?
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>>256709846
You know I never fucking realized that the fact they get that hole in their face is because of that falling off
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This thread, man.

Really close to rolling a Dunmer alchemist fumbling through the Ashlands.
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>>256723849
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>>256719132
I just really want book rotate to work. ugh.
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>>256724298
>mfw getting the pickpocket equipped gear perk for the first time
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>>256724475

>Skyrim

Get out.
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>that feel when breaking into the Temple's secret library
>that feel when reading what actually happened to the dwemer and Nerevar's betrayal
So Kargenac used the tools on the heart during a tense moment where he thought interruption wouldn't be a big deal, and then all dwemer disappeared. They either
>likely all died because Kargenac was wrong about the tools being safe
>likely all died because the Dwemer spent centuries creating artificial life and their souls were finally taken as forfeit
or
>got teleported to an outer realm no body knows about
was I reading all that right?

>tfw all the information about Dagoth-Ur and the Tribunal from the perspective of the Empire, Vivec, Ashlanders, and the Tribunal
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>>256724780
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>>256724849
read c0da
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>>256724849
I think the most well-accepted theory is that they all got teleported to some other plane of existence because they were all telepathically connected to the brain-internet, so when Kargenac did the thing and disappeared, they ALL disappeared
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>>256724849
They were fused to the skin of numidium and are currently off screaming FUCK YOU at reality in untimes.
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>>256724946
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>>256725319
You think wrong. See:
>>256725343
It was more-or-less confirmed in skyrim.
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>>256725319
but couldn't that same logic replace the word "teleported" with "killed" and it still make sense? Because they were all connected to the heart, wouldn't something going wrong with it cause damage to the whole species?
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>>256725534
Well you could say "killed", but they didn't exactly leave any corpses behind
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>>256725479
>confirmed in skyrim
It's a been a while since i did the main quest in that game, can i get footnotes?

I legitimately freaked when that mage found the heart. I wanted to kill him so that it would stay frozen and lost to the world.
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>>256724780
>>256724946
Man, ascended sleepers are so great.
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>>256725479
So they basically achieved Instrumentality?

But instead of becoming tang, they became a giant robot?
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>>256725534

The most boring answer is that they all died, and yet it's also the most plausible.

The Dwemer ruin in Mournhold has ash piles for every Dwemer that was there. That's what happened to them. They fucking disintegrated into ash instantly.

The reason you only see them in Mournhold is because it's been perfectly sealed since it happened, unlike all the ruins on Vvardenfel that have long since been looted and cleaned out by everything.
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>>256725930
Pretty much.

>>256725763
Give me a minute. Here's some reading material in the mean time.

>>256725947
Except it's not.
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Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong.
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>>256716439
how far along is Skywind anyway?
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>>256726235
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>tfw want to start modding Morrowind again, but want to wait for OpenMW to be finished
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>>256726263
>Except it's not.

Of course it is. What the fuck else are the ash piles?
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>>256726558
Their corporeal bodies. The niggers are part of numidium.
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>>256721687
There's no reason not to have armor ever. Unarmored is a level padding skill.
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>>256721687
a good wizard doesn't need armor or too much hp
yes raise your int
but don't neglect willpower or luck
also you should have int up to about 100 by the time you are around lv 20 at the latest if you are full wizard
im not even good at morrowind exploits or knowing jack shit about proper wizardry and im doing fine as a pure mage
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tfw you talk about morrowind and people say it's just nostalgia

fuck those people
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OP, you have it backwards

They don't put the tentacle in because their face rotted off, their faces rotted off because the tentacle growing in their head ate its way out.
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Here you go, direct from kirkbride:
>"Kagrenac was devoted to his people, and the Dwarves, despite what you may have read, were a pious lot-he would not have sacrificed so many of their golden souls to create Anumidum's metal body if it were all in the name of grand theater. Kagrenac had even built the tools needed to construct a Mantella, the Crux of Transcendence."

>Okay. So now everyone can stop posting about where the Dwarves went. I TOLD YOU EIGHTY YEARS AGO.

>Filthy with it, I am.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/482103-made-up-word-round-up/?p=6918676#entry6918676

and again by various devs
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/interviews-skeleton-man
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>>256727127
Well something's causing them to think the combat system isn't shit.
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>>256716439

It would have been much scarier if the six upper teeth were just gone and an infectious growth had replaced it.
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>>256726263
>breaking into pure, objective... nothingness.
So basically it's nirvana but a shitty "paradox loop" version? Thanks for the picture.
>>256726995
>There's no reason not to have armor ever.
Except for enchanting. Other than that I agree.
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>>256727337

Morrowind's melee combat was better than Oblivion's and Skyrim's, but Skyrim had the best magic combat and Oblivion had the best Archery.
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>>256727127
ikr? im playing the game through right now and im having more fun than new iterations of the series. I mean i DID play it way back when, but im having more fun now then in the past with it as well.
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>>256727290
Pious to what though?
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>>256727608
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>>256727698
the ideal of Numidium
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>>256727608
What made Oblivion's better than Skyrim's?
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>>256727608
but that's wrong
magic - Morrowind
enchanting - Morrowind/Oblivion
alchemy - Morrowind/Oblivion
melee - Oblivion
sneak - Skyrim
jumping around like the mother fucking Hulk - Oblivion

maybe with mods Skyrim is better but this is vanilla shit
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>>256727608
>Morrowind's melee combat was better than Oblivion's and Skyrim's
That's wrong.
>Skyrim had the best magic combat
That's double wrong
>Oblivion had the best Archery.
ye
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>>256727698

This >>256727859 and by extension logic.
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>>256727608
>diceroll melee better than real melee
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>>256727903

Oblivion's archery had proper physics applied to it. Skyrim had baked-in arrow arc.

>>256727914
>>256727923

Morrowind had the best magic effects, but the actual combat was ass. Skyrim's magic combat was MUCH more satisfying even when it was lacking the variety of spell effects Morrowind had.

Now if you want to argue that Morrowind had better spellCRAFTING than Skyrim, yes, it did.
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>>256728004
>mash m1
>real melee
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>>256726263

This is wrong.

They realized they are creations in a game and the writer, knowing that this race now had access to the control console, wiped them from existence. The ghosts in the ruins are memories of the writer.
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>>256728090
>no spell making
>no scaling damage
I will agree that it was the most satisfying but the lack of scaling and customization was a huge turn off to me. Especially when my first character was a mage and I struggled the whole game but when I made my first non-mage character the game got a lot more manageable.
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MGSO is shit

this is fact.
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What do you guys think of dialogue systems (sorry I know that's vague and unhelpful, but you know what I mean) between the three games? I don't just mean persuasion, but just dialogue as well.
I honestly think full voice acting ruined the dialogue in TES. If nothing else it makes modding harder, which is pretty stupid. I didn't enjoy talking to anyone in Oblivion or what little I played of Skyrim. It's just tedious waiting for the dialogue to play out, and completely insubstantial if you skip through it at reading pace.
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I always make a character, play for around 12-15 hours, make progress, and suddenly want a new character. But I don't want to drop all that progress I made, either. Plus, if I make a new dude, I'll end up doing a lot of the same quests all over again and they'll still be familiar.

Such are the problems of my life!
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>>256728232
>everything has to be a meta thing, guys, its all meta things, it can't be in-universe stuff guys

dude

Arniel's Endeavour
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>Azura's got her tits out again
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Refresh my memory /v/, who built the Strongholds in Morrowind and what was their purpose?
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>>256728232
I don't think CHIM works that way.
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>>256727608
>boat can't fit under arches
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>>256728394
Skyrim did it best but I hate it when games make you think that you're carrying on a conversation when you really aren't.
>I love the king!
>FUCK THE KING!
no matter which option the dialogue goes on the same path. If that illusion wasn't there, and if all the races kept their original voice actors the game would have been better.
>no raspy dunmer
>different redguard / nords
>altmer don't sound arrogant as fuck
Kajiit and Argonians were spot on though.
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>>256728225
>Implying morrowind isn't also mash m1
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>>256728670
That's fine because CHIM isn't related to the dwemer in the slightest.
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>>256722558
>wanting to become a zombie-like hulking mass of fucked up tumorous muscle
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Guys. Guys I have the answer right here. It's simple.
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>>256728618
Dunmer
basically cities in ancient times

>>256728786
its mash m1 with diceroll instead of just mash m1
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hey /v/, was Azura forcing the PC to be the Nerevarine because she was desperate and wanted to punish the Tribunal before Dagoth Ur fucked over everything?

ooor are you really the incarnate?
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>>256729025
>hey /v/, was Azura forcing the PC to be the Nerevarine because she was desperate and wanted to punish the Tribunal before Dagoth Ur fucked over everything?
yes
>ooor are you really the incarnate?
also yes
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>>256728513
As it should be
The removal of casual nudity was a large blow to the series
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>>256715146
>Some of Dagoth Ur's closest compainions are Ash Ghouls.
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>>256729025
Yes
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>>256729025
You didn't start as the incarnate. You mantle Nev which makes you the incarnate.
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>>256729002
>different power attacks do different things
>blocking isn't tied to charging a power attack and can be done with weapons other than shields
I like dice as much as the next fa/tg/uy but come on.
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>>256728960
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>>256729002
diceroll is bad
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>>256729025
It could be both

If Lord Nerevar was loyal to her, then she would have claim to his soul, which means she could do whatever the fuck she wanted with it

Including reincarnating it at the perfect time
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There was a huge discussion before about Sixth House transformations. It's believed that corpus has nothing to do with it, as >>256715146 mentions, especially since that was written by a fan. Notice how most of Ur's worshipers don't actually have corpus. Corpus is the divine disease. Dagoth Ur spreads it so that you seek his aid. He can remove the negative symptoms of corpus and let you rejoice in the rest of the symptoms. At that point, the mutations begin and you begin to see like he sees, live as he lives. People who are part of his cult are often called Dreamers, because he believes he is the dream and all are a part of him. When people are infected, he sends them dreams to join his cult for proper treatment and initiation. Vivec himself states that corpus is controlled by the cult in order to achieve new magical powers and a new form of life.

I don't know the specific reason why it's tentacles but the fact they can play music with the tentacles might relate to the tonal structure of the universe. Not only that but there's likely a symbolic reason why the face falls off, specifically the eyes.
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Were the dwemer euphoric?
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>>256729187
There is no practical difference between the two
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>>256728838
Thank you for posting this, been looking for it
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>yfw Jeremy Soule also composed the Supreme Commander soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2THaIuAiuA
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>tfw TES lore will never be good again

>tfw Colonel Sanders will be the loremaster forever despite being a total fuckup

>tfw next TES will just be another generic save the world from the evil dragon/god/sandwich situation
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I use a mod that removes the roll out of melee in Morrowind. It's amazing.
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>>256729339
yes very
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>>256709846
That design is gross and i don't like it
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Speaking of the Dwemer, how the fuck did the Chimer or Nords even register as a threat to them with their advanced technology and magic? Why didn't they just straight-up roll over them whenever they got too rambunctious?
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>He thinks its a tentacle and not a horn with orifices to sense its surroundings instead of eyes and nose
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>>256729271
Whoops, I meant to say corpus has nothing to do with the transformation like the post I quoted claimed it did. Instead I wrote it had nothing to do with the transformations at all, which is dead wrong.
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>>256729339
Yes.

>>256729376
If you were the incarnate you would be regardless of your actions. Mantling is following in their footsteps so closely the godhead cannot differentiate between the two so the universe sees in mantler as the mantled.
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>>256729249
>>256729339
thanks for both post
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>>256729271
But what if corpus is actually a parasite that eventually takes over the whole body

Hence the tentacle growth and head replacement

He gets rid of the "negative effects" by killing the host and letting the parasite have full control of the corpse
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>>256729585

I thought they pretty much were until they all vanished in the middle of rolling.
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>>256729459
It is still good
TESO isn't canon and it's even being developed by Bethesda
Almost every TES has been about saving the world to some extent
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>>256729459
>he doesn't realize that morrowind lore is just several ripoffs from the bible mixed with generic "save the world from the smelly nude guy" bullshit
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>>256728513

Where's Sotha Sil in that pic?
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>>256729585
At some point the dwemer did have an advantage but go into a dungeon and fight a dwemer machine. They're not as strong as people may think. With the magical prowess of the chimer - remember, these are the same people who establish House Telvanni - and likely having better combat skills due to traveling across Tamriel and being taught how to kill and slaughter by Daedra, the Chimer quickly became a huge problem.
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>>256729585
Yeah, the more we learn about the Dwemer the more they outclass everyone else in every possible way.

Can't wait till I get to play as one!
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>>256729752

>not realizing that several ripoffs from the bible is still more cohesive and interesting than Bioshock: Infinite
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>>256729752
not that guy but: Star Wars is a spaghetti western IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE but I still enjoy that setting too
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>>256729339
Why do so many RPG settings have it out for dwarves, man?

>TES deletes dwarves from the console
>Guild Wars stones the shit out of the dwarves and buries them forever
>Dragon Age declares dwarves too pedo-y and sweeps them under the rug

Fucking heightist assholes
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>>256729459
Someone jumped on the bandwagon of hate for Skyrim and missed out on the cool lore.

Fuck ESO, though. Why would you pay any mind to that?
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>>256729585
Dwemer didn't have advanced magic
They barely even used magic at all
And their technology doesn't extend too far beyond simple robotics and good metal
The most advanced regular weapon they had was the crossbow
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>>256729862
his body is hidden underneath mounhold
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>>256729862
Underneath it
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>>256725086
not canon drug-addled hippie new-age shit
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>>256730054
All their robots run on magic and soul gems.
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>>256729993
>Dragon Age declares dwarves too pedo-y and sweeps them under the rug
what
>captcha: wordwat you
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>>256729993
TES 'dwarves' are actually elves

TES only has elves, men and lizards

>>256730054
it depends if you consider tonal stuff to be magic
it technically isn't because 'magic' is defined as manipulation of aetherial energies and tonal stuff is fucking with reality on a base level
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>>256729752
It actually rips off quite a bit from eastern religions. In fact, some outfits and concepts are taken straight from eastern cultures and religions. MK studied religion a lot, there's even a bit of Crowley in there.
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>>256729752

So is evangelion, and that came out cool as shit. Your point?

Besides Mo'Wind is more eastern mysticism mixed with african tribals than Christianity.


Fucking hell c0da gives me EoE vibes sometimes. I want a pic of Kagrenac or Vivec in the Gendo Pose.
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>>256730238
No, no they don't
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>>256730256
>TES only has elves, men and lizards

And Hist and Sload and all that freaky shit in Akavir.
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>>256729952
No. Star Trek is a spaghetti western in space. Star Wars is Aurthurian style fantasy IN SPAAAAAAAACE. That's why it's garbage.
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>>256730238
Their robots technically run on steam, which is created by the tonal resonance of the soul gems
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>>256722761
>>256722880
>>256723198
>>256728820

You guys are missing the point.

>Live a nice, fulfilling life
>Get some corpus
>Go to Tel Fyr
>Spend an eternity being tended to by a Dunmer qt who plays the drums for you
>Get to hang out with the only living dorf
>High likelihood that one of the greatest wizards ever would eventually find the cure, which he totally does
>Come out of the ordeal immortal and disease-proof
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>mfw Hlaalu got BTFO during the Oblivion Crisis and Telvanniā„¢ Master Race endured.
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>>256730242
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>>256729727
Defeats the purpose of what Dagoth Ur wishes to accomplish. He wants to make people like him since he thinks everybody is him. Replacing a living being with a mindless parasite conflicts with that, especially since he does care about the dunmer people in his own way. He wants them, either with time or by his own inevitable aggression, to realize and become the truth.
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>>256729339
Yeah. But they seemed like the only race in all of TES that had any idea of what the fuck was going on up there.
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>>256730396
it's literally a western in space. when lucas made the movie the studio wanted him to make "what would sell" so he made the most cliche thing he could think of and now it's a billion dollar franchise
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>>256730497
The Nerevarine literally only survived because of prophecy

he tested the 'cure' on other patients and it killed them stone dead

>>256730504
and Redoran did better than both
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>>256729214
>they're making fun of my mohawk again
>whats wrong with my mohawk?
>these boots hurt
>i'm all out of sujamma
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>>256730504
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What was up with the maggot king and his sidekick in Morrowind? Killing him says your game story is ruined but he never appeared to do anything.
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>>256730556
So progressive.
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>>256730556
Does Gaider not like actual dwarves. or midgets. How intolerant
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>>256730504
Good. Hlaalu were a bunch of jews.
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>>256730497
>cancerous growths all the fuck over
>violently insane
>ITS GRATE U GUIZ
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>>256728479

Yeah, he did the same thing the Dwemer did and discovered the writer.

Then he was erased.
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>>256730556
People like him are the reason we can't have female aliens/fantasy races that don't just look like human women with purple skin or cat ears
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>>256730497
>spend years as a bloated, filth ridden retard who can barely function
>blinded and mutated with horrifying pain that overwhelms all your senses and eats away at every aspect of yourself, including intelligence
>you won't be aware of anything besides pain and your own incapacity to function

Pray that Fyr cures you, just so you can be immortal and live long enough to be watch Morrowind be destroyed, face the Thalmor Dominion, get eaten by a dragon, experience Landfall and likely be erased from existence.
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>>256730753
It's a bug, fixed in the GoTY edition. Goris is just a random NPC who crowned himself as such.
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>>256730640
Star Wars has no western style, baring a couple Han Solo scenes. The whole thing is literally magic swords and save the princess.
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>>256730556
Bioware confirmed for Heightist hate mongers.
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>>256730927
So you missed the part where he had barely any idea what he was doing, and the fact that his spirit is bound to you after the whole thing?
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>>256730054
I'm like 98% sure that we can't see the more impressive Dwemer feats because of lore-gameplay segregation.

I have to imagine that the same race that made robots, and according to Yagrum Bagarn, was able to create a way to travel through dimensions without the use of magic when everyone else just had bows and arrows has some really crazy shit that we just haven't seen
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>>256731101
It has a few more aspects of western style. The moving title screen is from Flash Gordon serials and the titles of the movies themselves are reminiscent of classic horror movies. Revenge of the X, Return of the X, The Phantom X, or the X Menace. But there is a lot of Kurosawa influences from the east as well.
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>>256730504
>Telvanni simply endures
>Redoran not only survived, but they got mad props for kicking Daedric ass during the Oblivion Crisis, and is the most powerful Great House in Morrowind
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>>256731068
So no storyline about him? Is he cut content or something but was left in?

I always made my Dunmer characters have his face once I realized I liked it.
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I just played though the Skyrim mod Undeath and there were a lot of references to the King of Worms. I haven't played Morrowind or beaten Oblivion entirely. However, this seems like a good place to ask this:

Who exactly is the King of Worms, what is he, and did he actually ascend to godhood somehow?

I only really know of him from a few books in Skyrim, and that the Necromancer's Amulet was something he used or created.
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>>256731517
He holds the bow of shadows, which is enough. He's just a higher level semi-unique NPC, you remember those right?
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>>256731291
Wait I just realized
Does this mean Numidium could summon entire armies of ephemeral dorfs at will
Or just one giant one
Or would that kill it
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>>256731435

I'm almost 100% positive not one of those influences were implemented or thought up by George Lucas himself.

He probably fought against them.
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>>256730497
>cure
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>>256731529
He dragonbreaked into two people and one of those people is a moon.
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>>256731529
Manimarco, the King of Worms, was supposedly an extremely powerful necromancer

In the multiple endings of Daggerfall, he can become either a god, a lich, or just stay a necromancer, depending on which ending you go with

And because all the endings are canon, he can be referred to as any of the three, deepening on which dragonbreak timeline you're in

This is kind of a shitty explanation, so sorry
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>>256731529
Mannimarco, the King of Worms
He was a dick-ass Lich, and the main antagonist of Arena
Then you kill him ded for good in the mages guild in Oblivion, because there was no place for him in the game universe anymore, just like the rest of Necromancy
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>>256728740
Maybe the middle 2, just barely.
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>>256732106
>deepening on which dragonbreak timeline you're in
Time fixs itself so all of them are in the same timeline.
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>>256731504
>Ald Ruhn destroyed
>Resurrected emperor crab also destroyed
>WE THRIVED XD

yeah no, props for daedra slaying though: yes.
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Thoughts on my build?
>Dunmer
>Stealth
>Intelligence, Agility
>Atronach
Major:
>Destruction, Short Blade, Light Armor, Mysticism, Sneak
Minor:
>Restoration, Illusion, Acrobatics, Security, Illusion

Just started again yesterday after a very long break.
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>>256732158
>and the main antagonist of Arena
I should have thought a bit more before I said that
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>>256732364

>atronach without conjuration or alchemy
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>>256730140
hi trainman how is your game coming along?
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>>256731529
It all starts with the Psijic Order, one of the earliest influential groups of mages in history, located on the island of Artaeum(probably misspelled it) in Summerset. Mannimarco was basically a big supporter of necromancy that went way overboard and eventually had an army of necromancers, a cult, and a gajillion undead ready to take over Tamriel. It was Galerion and the Mage's Guild - which Galerion founded - that stepped up and killed Mannimarco. Unfortunately, Mannimarco became the world's first lich - first recorded or what, no one knows- by that time and eventually comes back in Oblivion to be a massive asshole. During the Warp in the West, when time went out of control, one timeline involved him becoming a god. His influence over necromancy is seen in Oblivion, where he grants powers to create black soul gems through the necromancer's moonlight.
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>>256732324
Play Dragonborn, but that time, Redoran is the top house in Morrowind, and Blacklight is the new capital.
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>you will never slaughter elves alongside pelinal
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>>256732467
Currently on hold while we find a suitable graphic designer for the new UI (almost everything I was coding was UI stuff, but recent developments put that on hold while we get a new, better, 3D UI)
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>>256732324
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Red_Year

>Relief efforts began almost a month after the mountain erupted. It was actually a directive that came from the House Redoran councilor that was living in Mournhold at the time. I can't remember his name, but he took charge of the situation and sent soldiers, supplies and able-bodied Dunmer to the outlying settlements that had been hit the hardest. I was sent to Balmora. The place was a mess; hardly anything left in town was still standing. I spent maybe two months there, helping to rebuild the town and getting my fellow Dunmer back on their feet.

if it wasn't for Redoran there literally wouldn't be shit left for the other houses
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>>256732472
That's actually really cool then, because the mod was very lore-accurate.

You can even take Grand Soulgems to his Altars and a beam of power will turn them into Black Soulgems.
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>This is my first time in an elder scrolls lore thread.

What the fuck is going on?
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>people saying TESO is non-canon
Yeah, about that...
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>>256732948
CHIM
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>>256732745
To be fair, the state of Telvanni is still unknown. We have little information on how much of the mainland was destroyed and despite the Telvanni family - which all of a sudden exists thanks to Skyrim - being wiped out by Argonians, the Argonians attacked from the south while most Telvanni territory is in the upper east. With people like Neloth just popping up and growing new houses, it's likely Telvanni is doing fine. They just don't care about what's going on in the world, especially since many can take care of themselves.
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>>256733050
>no BGS involvement whatsoever
>set in the literal dark ages
>end result is irrelevant because of Tiber Septim

it might as well be
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>>256732948
lore
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>>256732628

World Eater Beater is shitty, just so you know. Why release a buggy, ugly mess?
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>>256732948
Elder scrolls lore is surprisingly abstract.

Bethesda doesn't know how to properly put it into their games.
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>>256733227
Yeah, the thing about the Telvanni being wiped out makes little sense given the actual facts, not to mention the Telvanni actual family is not the head of the house, just the founders, much like how in Morrowind Redoran's Grandmaster was Venim.

>>256733329
What's buggy and ugly about it?
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>>256733050
TESO is definitely canon. After all, Molag Bal's realm is described as ruined version of Nirn. Sounds like the player never leaves ColdHarbour in TESO.
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>>256732927
It's not like it's hard to make lore accurate necromancy
Bethesda themselves won't touch it because it's bad and would impact sales, but decided to implement lore breaking resurrection spells anyway because people whined
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>>256733351
Just the opposite

All the lore is told through the perspective of the people, so you have no idea what's facts or opinions, what's science and what's mythos

It's fucking great for theorycrafting and speculation
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>>256733480

Did you even playtest it? There's a whole list of complaints over in the Nexus.
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>>256732948
>What the fuck is going on?
Elder Scrolls has lore rivaling best tabletops such as Planescape, you can even get it discussed on /tg/
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>>256733329
Worked mine for me
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So how is MW now?
I dont know if it was expanded on in DB, but dont Argonians occupy a lot of it now?

Why arent the Dunmer having a reconquista?
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>>256733773
Playtested it myself multiple times, and gave it to multiple playtesters, whose issues I did fix before release.
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>>256733937
>worked mine for me
My god, even the posts about it are buggy!
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>>256733729
>It's fucking great for theorycrafting and speculation
Don't you guys ever get tired of just speculation? I mean it's cool up to a point, and that point is when shit just gets so convoluted that keeping it together feels more like homework.

Honestly, I just want some more facts. I'm tired of waiting for answers and each games just gives me more questions.
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>>256734057
>So how is MW now?
Here's the current situation.
They can't take any more from Argonians because argonians are tough when they organize.
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>>256733621
>but decided to implement lore breaking resurrection spells anyway because people whined
I dont remember these.
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>>256733506
I laughed
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>>256733773
So you haven't played it and are just whining about it.
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>>256734270

Who the fuck is House Sadras?
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>>256734057
>a lot of it

sure, if you count a tiny strip in the south that includes whatevers left of Tear as a lot

>>256734270
Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
not really useful against an organized military force such as the Redoran
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>>256734493
New house.
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>>256734270

>mfw house Hlaalu died and some no name house replaced it
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>>256734270
the patches of blue in vvardenfell, is that the shrine of azura and...suran?
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>>256734270
Argonians are subhuman scum. No match for Dunmer.
Failing that, join the Thalmor on the condition MW is fully returned to the Dunmer.
Then betray them when the empire fights them.
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>>256734493
Hlaalu's replacement. There's very little known about them.
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>>256734493
they're the guys they brought in when they kicked Hlaalu out for copious Imperial dicksucking

>>256734529
Hlaalu are still around, as Dragonborn shows, they just don't have any political swing
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>>256734213
No. This is neither /a/ nor /tesg/ where they get tired of actual discussion and just discuss wiafus.
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>>256734292
The few raise dead spells in Skyrim
They're unfun and bullshit and Bethesda only put it in in an attempt to please people crying about necromancy, yet also not piss off people who would be mad about necromancy
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>>256734552
>supporting the autists who want to undo convention
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>>256734613
>>256734635


good fucking riddance
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>>256734270
Is the land that is lines instead of a solid color contested territory?
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>>256734550
The map isn't accurate in terms of shape. It's missing a few chunks and extensions of the south east. It could be the Shrine of Azura for all we know, since the old Tribunal is being worshiped again.
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>>256734213
We love the world. We could practically migrate to TES reality and after some fish out of the water stuff go to become top intelectuals and mages. And when you're that deep into knowledge of something, there's no stopping. You always need more. I'd say we're living TES in a small compartment of our imagination and we're trying to find our existential purpose in there. I don't care if you cry out autism, so you might as well not do it.
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>>256734375

>alduin constantly using instal kill meteors
>common bug where player gets stuck during the transition to the second stage
>in alduin's stomach
>infinite spawning of worms and skeletons
>tedious landscape
>"Burning has been added"
>meteors still falling in his stomach for some dumb reason

Try playing it yourself and tell me what part made you uninstall the mod
>next stage
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>>256734678
Yeah I totally remember all the religious protests about necromancy in GW and M&M
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>>256735029
I never said anyone would actually get mad about it
It's just the only way I can make sense of Bethesda being retarded
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>>256734270
I have no idea how House Dres even began to survive. Not only was their territory the entire region the argonians invaded, but the Argonians should have been the most infuriated with them since House Dres was the slaver house of Morrowind. Redoran must be doing one hell of a job keeping them alive.
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>>256735009
>alduin constantly using instal kill meteors
Meteors only do around 100-300 damage, don't fight him at a low level.

>common bug where player gets stuck during the transition to the second stage
Occurs when conflicting mods mess with Alduin's AI, thus not letting him execute the parameters needed, loading WEB last usually helps, but so does not using shit like DCO, because it's bad.

>infinite spawning of worms and skeletons
No enemies spawn in Alduin's stomach, there are just a lot of them.
>"Burning has been added"
Occurs when you swim in the stomach acid, it's how the script works to damage you

>meteors still falling in his stomach for some dumb reason
This is Sovngarde being eaten raining down on you, shit I even think I said this somewhere multiple times.

All this really seems to come down you being a fucking moron.
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>>256727765
is that the golem thing?
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>>256735194
>I have no idea how House Dres even began to survive
They're the most hardcore motherfuckers out there. They're the type of warriors who view Redoran, the most warrior like house as undisciplined kids. This is also the reason for their lack of power - they're too extreme for most dunmer. Dres support the hardest slavery, keep all the old traditions everyone else forgot and even do trade with Sloads. There's nothing these motherfuckers can't survive.
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>>256735506
Does World Eater Beater have a high impact on performance?

I've wanted to install it for a long time, but my computer is pretty old.
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>>256735537
Numidium, yes.

>>256735695
Yeah, no way to get around that, things like ENBoost and that one mod that reserves more memory.
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>>256735839
Isn't it actually Akulakhan?
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>>256735839
But that's dagoth ur so logically it would be akunamatata not (a)numidium
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>>256734270
Source?
The wiki said Argonians sacked all Telvani settlements.
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>>256735942
Both are correct, it's the "Second Numidium" after all
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>>256733621
>lore breaking resurrection spells
How are they lore breaking?
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>>256736102
>>256735992
>>256735942
We need a super high res mod for Akulakhan in Morrowind. I demand it.
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>>256735589
im so fucking hyped for when tamriel rebuilt adds the house dres lands
its gonna be cool as shit, neon bug guts everywhere and bigass tower cities
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When I first played morrowind I had no idea what stilt striders were.

I was fucking terrified of them as I am of all large insects the moment I got off that boat.

I spent like a half hour shooting low level shitty fireballs at it thinking it was an enemy.
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>>256734510
>Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
>not really useful against an organized military force such as the Redoran
The way I remember it, they actually broke through and counter-invaded Mehrunes Dagon's plane of Oblivion, and they had to blow up the gates themselves to stop them.
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>>256736378
How long have they been working on that now, 10 years?
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>>256722558

No, but you might get that Ebola. Gonna have to settle for that, faggot.
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>>256735506
>DCO
>bad

nigga what?
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>>256734678
I dont remember them.
Why bother adding necromancy and half assing it?

>>256734990
>mages
Speak for yourself.
Magic would just be used to augument my abilities. Primarily I want to beat Thalmor to deat with a mace for the empire. The magic is just for gettting up close and not being caught.
God I hate Thalmor.

>>256735009
No idea about this mod, but even if it's buggy shit it's much better than the final boss was. I have never seen such a difference between in game lore and having something limited due to gameplay.
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>>256736628
Probably a typical reaction. No wonder the Dunmer hate outsiders. Fucking tourists..
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>>256736763
Apollodownsyndrome pls go.
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>>256736813
Well gee maybe they should put up a sign saying THE BIG SCARY BUG IS A TAXI AND IS NOT AGGRESSIVE PLEASE DONT SHOOT ARROWS AT IT
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>>256736172
Well, I admit most of it is conjecture on my part, as they never really went into the specifics of necromancy, like why would "necromancers" be a big thing and have all that shit they have and do all that shit they do if they could just raise anything with a simple spell
However in the realm of easier to prove shit, it was also stated very clearly in The Black Arts on Trial that even a little necromancy requires a blood sacrifice and taints your soul
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>>256736763
DCO is really really bad. Ragdolling everywhere. Not as unstable as his other mods, but still marred by Apollodown being his usual retarded self.
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>>256736102
It's only the second numidium if it breaks time by making akatosh almost zero sum
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>>256736172
Necromncy is a big no no in the Epire iirc.
Not him btw.

>>256734510
>Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
Stalin would be proud.
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>>256736902
Well, the fact that no one else is shooting at it should be a clue.
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>>256737095
They're cool with it in skyrim though.
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>>256736902
>implying outlanders bother to learn how to read the local language

Fucking n'wahs.
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>>256737134
How the fuck should I know, I was the only one getting off the boat and the guards back was turned.

To my younger mind it seemed like the intro sequence would be this giant bug wrecking the town and me escaping in the confusion.

Then it actually happened 15 years later with skyrim and wasn't nearly as good as I thought it would be
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>>256736937
It makes more sense in to raise a corpse in Skyrim than it does to just summon a spooky skeleton out of a portal like in Oblivion
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>C0DA graphic novel STILL not finished
This is suffering
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>>256737343
No, no it doesn't
It's not necromancy, but it doesn't not make sense, conjuration is a thing anon
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>>256737320
I know anon. I was actually kidding. I was scared shitless by the Silt Strider too.

>step out of Census office into courtyard
>dig through barrel, get healing ring
>suddenly, that distant silt strider moan
>get really scared and run inside
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>>256737548
>>256737320
Um... I found them kawaii since the moment I started the game
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>>256737343
I wish there were some spooky mods that utilised the NPC limbo room.
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>>256737359
>You will never live under the warm glow and soft ambient ticking of a Magitech star
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>>256737484
But only necromancer class enemies conjure skeletons and zombies
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>>256737359
Give it time, Anon.
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>>256737690
Nirn is trully the greatest creation of all time.
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>>256737713
That's bethesda being fucking lazy again
Summoning skeletons from the skeleton dimension was always their idea of "necromancy"
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>>256737790
>Those faces
judas fucking priest
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>>256727397
Ohh my starting money plate how i love you
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I started playing Morrowind for the first time about a week ago, after having only experienced Oblivion and Skyrim (both of which I enjoyed)

But man, now I see why everyone thinks those two games lesser

Morrowind is like ten bajillion times more interesting and unique, and isn't just standard copypaste fantasy land
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>>256737359
Is that the future where only 3 of the 10 races survived the apocalypse to live on the moon?
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>>256738657
Actually a lot of the dungeons are copy and paste, but then specific clutter and especially loot is hand placed.
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>>256738669
Dunmer, Khajiit, Nords, Imperials, Argonians and Breton are confirmed for survived by living on Masser and Secunda. For others we don't know, but I doubt they're dead.
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>>256738669
Khajiit already live on the moon though.
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>>256738967
when did that happen?
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>>256739371
They got really high
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>>256739371
Ages ago. They figured out that's where moon sugar comes from so they made a tower standing on each other shoulders until they could reach.
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>>256739482
*When they got really high
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>>256737359
Man I haven't even bothered reading this. Is it any good?
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>>256738967
As if space travel is something special.
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>>256739501
They didn't have to figure out. When Azura made them, she invented moon sugar, told them what it was and how it was made, that they could go on the moon and how to keep all this a secret from everybody else. She even designed them with lunar lattice forms, and the whole cat thing to help them in every possible scenario.
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>>256739691
"It's Bullshit But I Believe It: The Graphic Novel"
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>>256739691
>Is it any good?
Controversial.
If you're deeply into the lore, then probably. Otherwise it'll seem like nonsense and you won't make the right connections. It's demanding material. I'd say wait for the graphic novel to be finished if you're a normal TES fan.
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>>256739885
The disconnect between story and gameplay in TES is really jarring.
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>>256739691
If you like cryptic bullshit, sure. Which I do.
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>>256725319
no
they literally became part of Numidium
they are it and still live united as their Brass God
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>>256728778
Also really dumb that the guy who was Cyrus in Redguard and had been voicing Redguards since didn't do any voices,
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>>256739691
>SOTHA SIL
ALMALEXIA AND I ARE STABILIZING A POCKET REAL, BROTHER! WE'LL HIT EARTH-TYPE GROUND! WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING THAT TINGLE OUT OF EVERYONE'S HEAD VIA OUR HYPER-AMYGDALAS!

>MOLAG BAL
DAGOTH UR, QUIT STARING INTO THE SALES FOAM!

>THE UR
BUT EVERYTHING'S ONLY $19.95!
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>>256739935
I never get tired of that.
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>>256739885
Don't forget the aldmeri sunbirds and that Ada-Mantia is Akatosh's spaceship.
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>>256739691
Wait for the comic.
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>>256728513
good
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>>256734635
they only survive by drinking the empires semen once a year
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>>256728778
dam both of the beast races sound even better in Skyrim
Agronian males especially sound like world champion buttfuckers
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Is Hoonding spiral power?
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You're making me want to play TES again, but I've played the DICK off Morrowind.

Once upon a time, I modded the hell out of Skyrim but never played it. I have no idea what I did. Maybe I should go look at see if I made it any good, I don't remember anymore.
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>>256729446

The soundtrack for Secret of Evermore was his very first video game project, when he worked for Squaresoft NA.

Secret of Evermore was their one and only game. After it shipped, Squaresoft shut down their game-producing functions forever.
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>>256729459
dude Morrowind lore is just babies first Christian Mysticism with some Hindu flavor thrown in

plus Skyrim was great lore-wise
Kirkbride is kind of a hack anyways and just writes a lot of esoteric sounding shit with no substance most often
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>>256740603
im honestly going to wait the years forever until beyond skyrim gets content out. so far they have a decent amount of work into hammerfell elswyer and empire. im not touching skyrim again until that gets done
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>>256730054
also the Dwemer had a huge civil war before that over Atherium
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>>256740779
>tfw I have invested 40 hours into Skyrim this week thanks to DLC and mods I haven't touched since I installed them

welp there goes my productivity right before uni starts.
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>>256730256
real life Dwarves in myths are also just elves who live underground
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>>256740258

Glad I wasn't the only one getting fucking EoE vibes from c0da.


Just swap tumbling down with GEARS GEARS GEARS.

Michael Kirkbride and Hideaki Anno would probably make great drinking buddies.
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>>256719974
You've already got a thief+assassin angle going so Hlaalu is for you. Diplomats and spies they are.
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>>256741139
Holy fuck this needs to happen
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>>256740995
its summer dude. its supposed to be wasted away.
same way tho, i spend more time installing then i do playing
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>>256730387
is that a samurai snake?

is this shit really in elder scrolls?

wtf
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>>256741430
We basically know shit all about Akavir, so it might be a thing that exists
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>>256741430
>he doesn't know about the Tsaesci

They're also vampires
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>>256741430
Akavir my nigger.

It's basically supposed to be the Asia of Elderscrolls, except it's supposed to have freaky snake vampires, tiger people, half dragon people, etc. and they've tried to invade Tamriel several times but have failed.

They make it sound like a place that's constantly warring as well.
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>>256741430
Vampire snake people. They fight with monkey people and snow demons that thaw out in the summer and are frozen all winter
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>>256741430
Theory is that they may be men that have a fluid, snake-like fighting style, may actually be fucking giant snakes, or maybe those samurai snakes pictured Or maybe all 3
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>>256741795
this shit gets funnier every time isee it
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>>256741930
You forgot the monkey bros who live on an island off the coast.
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>>256742050
No they're actual snakes. They ruled Tamriel for a bit. Or, Cyrodiil. I dunno.
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>>256741930
>>256741956
fuck tamriel i want to go there
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>>256742050
I believe it was concluded that the men were just integrated into a larger cultural empire
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>>256729993
they dug too deep
too greedily

the old ones awaited them below
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>>256742315
Deep crows?
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>>256742160
I haven't read too much into the lore, but wasn't that quest in Oblivion saying that they raped the nords but only got as far as northern Cyrodiil? Also, among the ruins of Pale Pass were human skeletons, so one must assumed they have human soldiers in their army as well.
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>>256742443
balrogs son
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>>256742160
Nobody knows exactly what the fuck they look like, descriptions range from snakes to half-man-half-snakes, to dudes that are kinda like snakes
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>>256742658
That's what I thought, I haven't played an ES game in a while so I thought I might have read something wrong.
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What I don't get is, there are records of Akaviri invasions, but the only Akaviri artifacts we have are katanas and armor used by the Blades.
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So are they real vampires or do they just drink blood?
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>>256730497
>no visible breasts

thats a man
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>>256742516
Nah man, they had the crown prince and the Emperor assassinated and took over.

>>256742658
I don't really understand why people try to argue the whole "They're just the TES equivalent of Asian men" angle. Vampiric snake-people aren't that weird in the grand scheme of things. It's not hard to accept.
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>>256742921
>I don't really understand why people try to argue the whole "They're just the TES equivalent of Asian men" angle
Nobody tries to argue that
I wasn't trying to argue that
I said nobody knows what the fuck they look like because nobody knows what the fuck they look like
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>>256742805
Is that supposed to be Balmora?

I like it
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>>256743110
They RULED the EMPIRE for years.
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>>256741795
>They're also vampires
They're snakes. They have fangs. Probably a transcription error. An actual one.
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>there will never be a Dynasty Warriors game based off Elder Scrolls
>you'll never play a campaign in Akaviri lands and follow in the steps of Tiber Septim
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>>256742893
You got a problem with that, outlander?
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>>256743214
And yet still nobody can fucking agree on what exactly they looked like
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>>256743158
Yup
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>>256743282
DO NOT PURSUE PELINAL
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>>256743230
>Tsaesci is "Snake Palace", once the strongest power in Akavir (before the Tiger-Dragon came). The serpent-folk ate all the Men of Akavir a long time ago, but still kind of look like them. They are tall, beautiful (if frightening), covered in golden scales, and immortal. They enslave the goblins of the surrounding isles, who provide labor and fresh blood. The holdings of Tsaesci are widespread. When natives of Tamriel think of the Akaviri they think of the Serpent-Folk, because one ruled the Cyrodilic Empire for four hundred years in the previous era. He was Potentate Versidue-Shaie, assassinated by the Morag Tong.

>They enslave the goblins of the surrounding isles, who provide labor and fresh blood.

>provide labor and fresh blood.

>fresh blood
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>>256743603
So for all we know, they could just be a subrace of alternately coloured vampire Argonians?
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>>256743603
Real life steppe nomads will bleed their horses and drink it for sustenance. I wouldn't call them vampires though I would call them metal as fuck.

Actually blood figures into a lot of specific cuisines.
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>>256743603
Well nevermind then.

Want to make bets that they end up just being Asians if they're even seen in-game?
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>>256743392
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/2920-last-year-first-era

> He knew that "beastfolk" referred to the natives of Tamriel, not to the Tsaesci of Akavir like himself.

Why would it be noteworthy for Versidue-Shaie to say this unless it could be construed that he is a part of a beast race?
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>>256743929
>>256743953
>"First," Tosh Raka says, "is that we kill all the vampire snakes." Then the Tiger-Dragon Emperor wants to invade Tamriel.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/mysterious-akavir
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>>256743962
>Elder Scrools game with Akavir races/content
>we finally get a decent Unarmed/Hand to hand combat system

That was the one thing that pissed me off about Skyrim. Unarmed combat was treated like shit and you could only do it effectively if you wore heavy armor, defeating the purpose.
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>>256744069
But that could mean anything from giant snake to naga to slightly longer argonian
"Beast race" is not a specific physical description
Why are you still confusing me for your "they're just asians" strawman?
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>>256744214
>That was the one thing that pissed me off about Skyrim.
THAT was the one thing that pissed you off? Not... EVERYTHING ELSE?
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>>256744354
Sorry. It was the main thing that pissed me off about Skyrim.

To be honest most shit can be fixed with mods, but unarmed is still kind of lacking even with that unarmed combat Monk overhaul.
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>>256744349
Because that isn't a strawman, people legitimately argue that. The distinction is mostly "are they actually a 'beast race' or are they just human beings?" Now if you want to get down to what their exact body proportions are, well I dunno if any text exists to describe those details.
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>>256742805
>birds
>not Cliff Racers
Such a little detail can ruin a whole picture.
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>>256744515
THAT'S WHAT I'M FUCKING SAYING
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>>256744558
could have been after juib
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>>256730504
>>256731504

Did any great house survive the red year?
I can only see Telvanni surviving.
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>>256743296
they could have at least put a mirror behind him so we could see his chubby little penis and plump, hairless balls
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>>256740081
>mfw I read that in Dagoth's commanding voice
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>>256745105
....
Are there any traps in the elder scrolls?
No seriously, is there any mention of gender variance in TES, aside from Vivec? It actually seems pretty egalitarian in terms of gender politics. I wonder if anyone would give a shit if some was a poofter.
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>>256744558
Who says there isn't any birds on Morrowind? Probably has more fish then Slaughterfish swimming around they just couldn't fit that much fauna into the game.
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>>256742893
I'd fuck it.
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>>256745431
Considering the fact that they have widespread illusion magic, any given NPC you talk to could be the other sex in disguise and you'd never be the wiser
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>>256745431
>>256745558
would you a jiub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erVTnssCbzQ
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>>256745431
>MFW I just remembered that guy arguing with Kirkbride on the forums that there was no gay people in elder scrolls
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>>256745716
Why does this exist?
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>>256745716
This is the funniest thing I have seen all day

Thank you Anon
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>>256745753
>SJWs cry about TES not being progressive
>Vivec and Molag Bal running around fucking anything that moves
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>>256745753
Could I get some sauce on that?
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>>256744924
Saint Juib best saint.
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I'm going to marry Vivec!
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>>256745716
Based smegmaking
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>>256745159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOyk9XXnQc
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>>256744558
>>256745481
Of all the mods I put into Morrowind, the two that I liked the most didn't do very much, but they changed everything. One added a bunch of birds, and one added a bunch of fish. None of them were hostile, but for some reason those small additions made the entire world feel more alive.
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>>256746201
I don't know how you typed that if you have no hands, Jubal.
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>>256746191
I'm sad that there are no pictures of him atop his silt strider holding his sword and facing down the coming horde
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>>256746135

Vivec is a hermaphrodite that has raped and gotten raped while Molag Bal is the literal king of rape. The only part they'd like is Vivec being a hermaphrodite, everything else is a trigger minefield.
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>>256746474
I believe that was his point
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>>256746135
They're throwing a shitstorm now because MK told a trans guy to go fuck itself
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>>256746791
Bahaha, and they want to press criminal charges, what fucking idiots.
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>>256746791
>>256746929
sauce
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>>256746929
Based kirkbride
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>>256746791
I hope he told him to make like Divayth Fyr and go fuck himself.
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>>256746929
What?
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>>256746791
What? Kirkbride was misrepresented. He's actually fascinated by trans people and that's why Vivec is... so Vivec.

Read his tumblr your idiots.
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>>256746981
http://womanbehindtheblades.tumblr.com/post/94036169489/voltroll-akafox-okay-so-explanation-this
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So is Muatra seriously Vivec's dick?
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>>256747445
God I fucking hate Vivec so fucking much. What a Mary Sue, and yes I use that term with the full knowledge that it means an OP author insert.
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>>256747456
Please tell me that is real, because if so that is based as shit.
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I don't know whether I should play Morrowind vanilla first, or get the Overhaul.

I just have a feeling that the Overhaul just completely changes the fucking game and takes away from the original feel of the grand design.

From pictures seen in the original Morrowind, the area looks more like a swamp. the Overhaul just makes the area look more like a fucking rice field.
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>>256747483
The Muatra is his penis. Yes.
I believe there was a story of him shoving Muatra down Azuras throat.
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>>256747696
Some weird person, who seems more trans* than trans, seems to have made up or misinterpreted something Kirkbride said. Kirkbride is pretty (hilariously) childish at times, like when he drew a picture of a heckler's diseased penis, but he's actually very friendly to LGBT people and that's why they feature so strongly in his fictions.

He's also an egalitarian type feminist, which is why he writes strong women who have equal and even dominant relationships with men and with their own sexuality.

Kirkbride is basically a sane version of the SJWs that 4chan hates so much.
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>>256747967
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>>256747445
>read tumblr
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>>256747964
Fuck the overhaul.

Install better bodies, either better heads or the pluginless westly heads mod, madd leveler, a mod or two that changes gameplay to your liking and you are golden.
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>>256747967
After he used a bloody antler on her as a dildo, yes
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>>256747964
Swamps are actually kind of full of vegetation, not to mention the entire island is composed of volcanic (and therefore ultra rich) soil.
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>>256747483
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's a representation of his dick which in TES means it is his dick. So either way, it's his dick.

>>256747649
He's more like the insert of the author's obsession with all stuff. The funny thing is that if you actually read up on Vivec, he's not a Mary Sue at all. A lot of people recognize him for being an asshole, even MK's fiancee recently said he's not a noble hero and attempting to wipe out most dunmer was a dick move.
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>>256748205
Kirkbrides tumblr is wonderful. Cut it out with the weak bait. He's posted some exclusive sketches and they rule.
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>>256748305
He also got rekt in the redguard story
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>>256748305
>he's not a Mary Sue at all.
He is to Kirkbride. You can't really argue this. He's the figure that has the most written about him, he gets away with fucking murder and he's still loved.
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>>256748205
>Tumblr is one thing
Much like the common view of the internet, Tumblr is mostly porn
It's a network of personal blogs, not an SJW forum
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>>256748194
why azura retard?
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>>256747483
>statues of Vivec depict him wielding a spear
>carries no weapons when you meet him in person
What do you think, brah
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>>256748452
Vivec is Kirk's baby thats for sure. But within the story it makes sense that Vivec plays a big part in things.
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>>256724849
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>>256748772
>within the story it makes sense that Vivec plays a big part in things
...because Kirkbride wrote it that way. To put his character at the centre of everything.
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>>256748772
He literally made up chim so that vivec didn't have to ded
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>>256748943
No, chim and it's broader metaphysical concepts exist to reconcile the universe with the games and give him the chance to make jokes about game mechanics.
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>>256748194
Holy shit what the actual fuck did I just read?
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>>256748452
>gets away with murder and is still loved
Welcome to TES. People love Talos but the guy was a murderer and a traitor. Stormcloak is king of the assholes and people will defend him like a father. He's definitely Kirkbride's love baby but even he can't write Vivec without making him an asshole. However, if there was ever a case of Vivec being a Mary Sue I would say only the Trial of Vivec counts, since the attention on Vivec seems to warp everything in his favor. Azura goes from well spoken to retard spaz, Vivec goes from crazed poet to lunatic on a crack high. And all that is from a roleplaying session. Imagine how others felt in that session, watching MK masturbate to Vivec.
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>>256749116
Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>
what is the cosmic babby?
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>>256749116
Not just that but CHIM was around since Morrowind. Vivec is never declared dead at the end of it either so he wouldn't need CHIM for a while.
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>>256748907
That turned into Chimeri propaganda at the end.
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>>256748907
>nothing truly exists, it's all just a dream

I never understood how this logic seems sound because a dream, even in the metaphorical sense, implies a dreamer. Illusions are real, not in that what they appear to be is what they actually are, but that they are actual phenomena that exist. Therefore just saying "it isn't real" misses an important point.
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>>256748510
I interpret it as being something like, her God-speech is on some weird but grand other level that is difficult to parse for normal folk, which is conveyed through an awkward capslocked style.
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>>256749731
Well, sounds like that person gets to zero sum then.
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>>256749731
It's just a simple way of saying it
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>>256749916
Daedric Princes speak perfectly fine anon
Azura is just a qt
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>>256750005
You never know, people tend to do a shit job of being specific when discussing metaphysical ideas.
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>>256750360
So what you're trying to say is
Reality is actually a shit?
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>tfw bal isra is so shit you just make your own redoran stronghold mod
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>>256749173
The masses love the idea of a leader, not the leader themselves
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>>256726510
I also want to replay the game, mostly because Tamriel Rebuild but you know what?
I'll simply wait for OpenMW.

There are a lot of games I still have to beat so I don't bother with it.
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>>256750496
just like ur waifu
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redoran best style
redoran best house

except the exteriors look like vaginas
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>>256750697
TR won't be done for at least another decade
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>>256750546
Well, a lot of people love the idea of Vivec and the more they know, the less they tend to like him as an actual person. There's some people on /tesg/ who, upon hearing how he likely caused the Red Year intentionally, despise him. Most people who declare Vivec as the best fucking thing ever are usually part of the MK cult anyway and Vivec obsession is the tip of the iceberg for them. Either that or they're new to lore and Vivec's sermons and synopsis shows them how weird stuff gets.
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>>256750809
Neither will OpenMW potential be used before that.
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>>256750824
>People who like Vivec are either crazy or uninformed
Say that to my face faggot not online see what happens
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>>256750932
OpenMW is pretty far in its development actually. I was a bit doubtful but I wouldn't be surprised to see it finish within a year, if not less. Modding for Morrowind will feel significantly better.
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>>256750998
>Say that to my face n'wah not through the dreamsleeve and see what happens
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>>256729993
>arx fatalis dorfs eaten by some beast not long before you get to where they'd be
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>>256750824

I really hate the 36 sermons and anything tribunal/MK related

it tries way too hard to be super deep and religious and it's all so phoney. The C0DA wank is especially fucking stupid.
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>>256750998
Hey, all I said was people who declare him as the best fucking thing ever. I like Vivec despite him being a monster but I also dislike him a lot for being a monster. It's a two faced relationship. Little Vivec humor for you folks at home. But no, seriously, there's a ton of people who will just fawn over what others tell them happened. What, Vivec's spear is his symbolic dick? WHHHHAAAAAATT? I thought TES was so normal but Kirkbride's insane....FUCKING INSANE!!! WHOOOAAA! Kiss my ass Todd, Kirkbride should be in charge!
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People who say Vivec is some benevolent ruler who is into kinky sex don't really pay attention to what he says and does. He straight up tells his people that if they stop loving him he will murder them. Dude was an asshole and a traitor.
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