So what's the rationale behind sticking sticking a tentacle in a dude's face after it rots off due to corprus?
I never understood to point. Is it just dagoth ur being batshit crazy?
TES lore thread
Sorry, I misremembered.
>The next step in the evolutionary process of one of Ur's servants is the "Ash Zombie". During this faze the Ash Slaves face becomes brittle and falls off leaving a gaping hole. During this time the servant loses its magical ability but gains considerable strength.
>Next comes the "Ash Ghoul". After a certain amount of time the corprus inside the Ash Zombie starts to grow a strange tentacle like appendage out of the hole in the zombies face. In this form they gain a consideral amount of magical ability and are also very strong fighters. Some of Dagoth Ur's closest compainions are Ash Ghouls.
>The final step would seem to be the "Ascended Sleeper". The tentacle growths inside the ghouls head eventualy completely emerge and a new head is grown where the old one was. These beings are incredibly strong and are the pinicle of what a servant of Dagoth Ur can achieve.
It grows, not gets installed.
It'll probably disappoint but I'll probably get it just to see what all those models look like ingame.
Oh really? I mean I'm sure there are more terrifying things
Oh is that what those faggots were? I thought they were just some dudes in masks and the least scary baddies ever. I just walked up and hit them with my sword and zero fucks were given.
I might go back and replay now this new info has come to light.
Give me something fun to do in Morrowind. Ive completed the Morag Tong and Theives Guild (which was a complete let down).
First playthrough so I probably havent done it if you suggest it. kinda bored with 100 str, agi, and speed.
>hunt down mods for a few days
>have a blast for a few more
>try and reinstall book rotate cause I found a good place for my telvanni battlemage/imperial legionnaire to set up shop
>doesn't work, ever
>patch files with book rotate tool
>still dont work
>uninstall morrowind cause im mad as fuck
and now here I am, reinstalling. Thank god I saved all my mods.
But I want book rotate to work so fucking bad.
>kinda bored with 100 str, agi, and speed.
You're kind of doing it wrong. Character progression and enemies that you have to fight tooth and nail with the help of consumables temple blessings and shit is a big part of the experience.
Depends on your character, and what house you like the best.
That said, Telvani all the way.
>MGSO, because duh.
>Get tipped off about Morrowind Rebirth which looks awesome and promises a new playthrough I haven't experienced yet.
>Spend a bunch of time trying to get shit working, not happening.
>Finally get it working fine, fix the dumb-ass issues I was having, and it plays perfectly and looks great.
>Well, except for the lack of grass, but I can deal.
>My CPU cooler gives out and I can't play video games for fear of burning out the computer
My wizard is too squishy. Was unarmored skill a bad choice? Should I just train up my skills so I can have higher int so i can actually cast spells that do damage?
Oh bby post some of those muddy, low-rest vanilla texture screenshots so I can cum looking at them!
Nigga, fuck off.
>that feel when breaking into the Temple's secret library
>that feel when reading what actually happened to the dwemer and Nerevar's betrayal
So Kargenac used the tools on the heart during a tense moment where he thought interruption wouldn't be a big deal, and then all dwemer disappeared. They either
>likely all died because Kargenac was wrong about the tools being safe
>likely all died because the Dwemer spent centuries creating artificial life and their souls were finally taken as forfeit
>got teleported to an outer realm no body knows about
was I reading all that right?
>tfw all the information about Dagoth-Ur and the Tribunal from the perspective of the Empire, Vivec, Ashlanders, and the Tribunal
I think the most well-accepted theory is that they all got teleported to some other plane of existence because they were all telepathically connected to the brain-internet, so when Kargenac did the thing and disappeared, they ALL disappeared
but couldn't that same logic replace the word "teleported" with "killed" and it still make sense? Because they were all connected to the heart, wouldn't something going wrong with it cause damage to the whole species?
>confirmed in skyrim
It's a been a while since i did the main quest in that game, can i get footnotes?
I legitimately freaked when that mage found the heart. I wanted to kill him so that it would stay frozen and lost to the world.
The most boring answer is that they all died, and yet it's also the most plausible.
The Dwemer ruin in Mournhold has ash piles for every Dwemer that was there. That's what happened to them. They fucking disintegrated into ash instantly.
The reason you only see them in Mournhold is because it's been perfectly sealed since it happened, unlike all the ruins on Vvardenfel that have long since been looted and cleaned out by everything.
Give me a minute. Here's some reading material in the mean time.
Except it's not.
>Except it's not.
Of course it is. What the fuck else are the ash piles?
a good wizard doesn't need armor or too much hp
yes raise your int
but don't neglect willpower or luck
also you should have int up to about 100 by the time you are around lv 20 at the latest if you are full wizard
im not even good at morrowind exploits or knowing jack shit about proper wizardry and im doing fine as a pure mage
Here you go, direct from kirkbride:
>"Kagrenac was devoted to his people, and the Dwarves, despite what you may have read, were a pious lot-he would not have sacrificed so many of their golden souls to create Anumidum's metal body if it were all in the name of grand theater. Kagrenac had even built the tools needed to construct a Mantella, the Crux of Transcendence."
>Okay. So now everyone can stop posting about where the Dwarves went. I TOLD YOU EIGHTY YEARS AGO.
>Filthy with it, I am.
and again by various devs
>breaking into pure, objective... nothingness.
So basically it's nirvana but a shitty "paradox loop" version? Thanks for the picture.
>There's no reason not to have armor ever.
Except for enchanting. Other than that I agree.
Morrowind's melee combat was better than Oblivion's and Skyrim's,
but Skyrim had the best magic combat and Oblivion had the best Archery.
ikr? im playing the game through right now and im having more fun than new iterations of the series. I mean i DID play it way back when, but im having more fun now then in the past with it as well.
but that's wrong
magic - Morrowind
enchanting - Morrowind/Oblivion
alchemy - Morrowind/Oblivion
melee - Oblivion
sneak - Skyrim
jumping around like the mother fucking Hulk - Oblivion
maybe with mods Skyrim is better but this is vanilla shit
Oblivion's archery had proper physics applied to it. Skyrim had baked-in arrow arc.
Morrowind had the best magic effects, but the actual combat was ass. Skyrim's magic combat was MUCH more satisfying even when it was lacking the variety of spell effects Morrowind had.
Now if you want to argue that Morrowind had better spellCRAFTING than Skyrim, yes, it did.
This is wrong.
They realized they are creations in a game and the writer, knowing that this race now had access to the control console, wiped them from existence. The ghosts in the ruins are memories of the writer.
>no spell making
>no scaling damage
I will agree that it was the most satisfying but the lack of scaling and customization was a huge turn off to me. Especially when my first character was a mage and I struggled the whole game but when I made my first non-mage character the game got a lot more manageable.
What do you guys think of dialogue systems (sorry I know that's vague and unhelpful, but you know what I mean) between the three games? I don't just mean persuasion, but just dialogue as well.
I honestly think full voice acting ruined the dialogue in TES. If nothing else it makes modding harder, which is pretty stupid. I didn't enjoy talking to anyone in Oblivion or what little I played of Skyrim. It's just tedious waiting for the dialogue to play out, and completely insubstantial if you skip through it at reading pace.
I always make a character, play for around 12-15 hours, make progress, and suddenly want a new character. But I don't want to drop all that progress I made, either. Plus, if I make a new dude, I'll end up doing a lot of the same quests all over again and they'll still be familiar.
Such are the problems of my life!
Skyrim did it best but I hate it when games make you think that you're carrying on a conversation when you really aren't.
>I love the king!
>FUCK THE KING!
no matter which option the dialogue goes on the same path. If that illusion wasn't there, and if all the races kept their original voice actors the game would have been better.
>no raspy dunmer
>different redguard / nords
>altmer don't sound arrogant as fuck
Kajiit and Argonians were spot on though.
>wanting to become a zombie-like hulking mass of fucked up tumorous muscle
Guys. Guys I have the answer right here. It's simple.
hey /v/, was Azura forcing the PC to be the Nerevarine because she was desperate and wanted to punish the Tribunal before Dagoth Ur fucked over everything?
ooor are you really the incarnate?
>hey /v/, was Azura forcing the PC to be the Nerevarine because she was desperate and wanted to punish the Tribunal before Dagoth Ur fucked over everything?
>ooor are you really the incarnate?
>Some of Dagoth Ur's closest compainions are Ash Ghouls.
>different power attacks do different things
>blocking isn't tied to charging a power attack and can be done with weapons other than shields
I like dice as much as the next fa/tg/uy but come on.
It could be both
If Lord Nerevar was loyal to her, then she would have claim to his soul, which means she could do whatever the fuck she wanted with it
Including reincarnating it at the perfect time
There was a huge discussion before about Sixth House transformations. It's believed that corpus has nothing to do with it, as >>256715146 mentions, especially since that was written by a fan. Notice how most of Ur's worshipers don't actually have corpus. Corpus is the divine disease. Dagoth Ur spreads it so that you seek his aid. He can remove the negative symptoms of corpus and let you rejoice in the rest of the symptoms. At that point, the mutations begin and you begin to see like he sees, live as he lives. People who are part of his cult are often called Dreamers, because he believes he is the dream and all are a part of him. When people are infected, he sends them dreams to join his cult for proper treatment and initiation. Vivec himself states that corpus is controlled by the cult in order to achieve new magical powers and a new form of life.
I don't know the specific reason why it's tentacles but the fact they can play music with the tentacles might relate to the tonal structure of the universe. Not only that but there's likely a symbolic reason why the face falls off, specifically the eyes.
>yfw Jeremy Soule also composed the Supreme Commander soundtrack
>tfw TES lore will never be good again
>tfw Colonel Sanders will be the loremaster forever despite being a total fuckup
>tfw next TES will just be another generic save the world from the evil dragon/god/sandwich situation
Speaking of the Dwemer, how the fuck did the Chimer or Nords even register as a threat to them with their advanced technology and magic? Why didn't they just straight-up roll over them whenever they got too rambunctious?
Whoops, I meant to say corpus has nothing to do with the transformation like the post I quoted claimed it did. Instead I wrote it had nothing to do with the transformations at all, which is dead wrong.
If you were the incarnate you would be regardless of your actions. Mantling is following in their footsteps so closely the godhead cannot differentiate between the two so the universe sees in mantler as the mantled.
But what if corpus is actually a parasite that eventually takes over the whole body
Hence the tentacle growth and head replacement
He gets rid of the "negative effects" by killing the host and letting the parasite have full control of the corpse
>he doesn't realize that morrowind lore is just several ripoffs from the bible mixed with generic "save the world from the smelly nude guy" bullshit
At some point the dwemer did have an advantage but go into a dungeon and fight a dwemer machine. They're not as strong as people may think. With the magical prowess of the chimer - remember, these are the same people who establish House Telvanni - and likely having better combat skills due to traveling across Tamriel and being taught how to kill and slaughter by Daedra, the Chimer quickly became a huge problem.
>not realizing that several ripoffs from the bible is still more cohesive and interesting than Bioshock: Infinite
Why do so many RPG settings have it out for dwarves, man?
>TES deletes dwarves from the console
>Guild Wars stones the shit out of the dwarves and buries them forever
>Dragon Age declares dwarves too pedo-y and sweeps them under the rug
Fucking heightist assholes
Dwemer didn't have advanced magic
They barely even used magic at all
And their technology doesn't extend too far beyond simple robotics and good metal
The most advanced regular weapon they had was the crossbow
TES 'dwarves' are actually elves
TES only has elves, men and lizards
it depends if you consider tonal stuff to be magic
it technically isn't because 'magic' is defined as manipulation of aetherial energies and tonal stuff is fucking with reality on a base level
It actually rips off quite a bit from eastern religions. In fact, some outfits and concepts are taken straight from eastern cultures and religions. MK studied religion a lot, there's even a bit of Crowley in there.
So is evangelion, and that came out cool as shit. Your point?
Besides Mo'Wind is more eastern mysticism mixed with african tribals than Christianity.
Fucking hell c0da gives me EoE vibes sometimes. I want a pic of Kagrenac or Vivec in the Gendo Pose.
>TES only has elves, men and lizards
And Hist and Sload and all that freaky shit in Akavir.
You guys are missing the point.
>Live a nice, fulfilling life
>Get some corpus
>Go to Tel Fyr
>Spend an eternity being tended to by a Dunmer qt who plays the drums for you
>Get to hang out with the only living dorf
>High likelihood that one of the greatest wizards ever would eventually find the cure, which he totally does
>Come out of the ordeal immortal and disease-proof
>mfw Hlaalu got BTFO during the Oblivion Crisis and Telvanni™ Master Race endured.
Defeats the purpose of what Dagoth Ur wishes to accomplish. He wants to make people like him since he thinks everybody is him. Replacing a living being with a mindless parasite conflicts with that, especially since he does care about the dunmer people in his own way. He wants them, either with time or by his own inevitable aggression, to realize and become the truth.
it's literally a western in space. when lucas made the movie the studio wanted him to make "what would sell" so he made the most cliche thing he could think of and now it's a billion dollar franchise
>cancerous growths all the fuck over
>ITS GRATE U GUIZ
>spend years as a bloated, filth ridden retard who can barely function
>blinded and mutated with horrifying pain that overwhelms all your senses and eats away at every aspect of yourself, including intelligence
>you won't be aware of anything besides pain and your own incapacity to function
Pray that Fyr cures you, just so you can be immortal and live long enough to be watch Morrowind be destroyed, face the Thalmor Dominion, get eaten by a dragon, experience Landfall and likely be erased from existence.
Star Wars has no western style, baring a couple Han Solo scenes. The whole thing is literally magic swords and save the princess.
I'm like 98% sure that we can't see the more impressive Dwemer feats because of lore-gameplay segregation.
I have to imagine that the same race that made robots, and according to Yagrum Bagarn, was able to create a way to travel through dimensions without the use of magic when everyone else just had bows and arrows has some really crazy shit that we just haven't seen
It has a few more aspects of western style. The moving title screen is from Flash Gordon serials and the titles of the movies themselves are reminiscent of classic horror movies. Revenge of the X, Return of the X, The Phantom X, or the X Menace. But there is a lot of Kurosawa influences from the east as well.
>Telvanni simply endures
>Redoran not only survived, but they got mad props for kicking Daedric ass during the Oblivion Crisis, and is the most powerful Great House in Morrowind
I just played though the Skyrim mod Undeath and there were a lot of references to the King of Worms. I haven't played Morrowind or beaten Oblivion entirely. However, this seems like a good place to ask this:
Who exactly is the King of Worms, what is he, and did he actually ascend to godhood somehow?
I only really know of him from a few books in Skyrim, and that the Necromancer's Amulet was something he used or created.
I'm almost 100% positive not one of those influences were implemented or thought up by George Lucas himself.
He probably fought against them.
Manimarco, the King of Worms, was supposedly an extremely powerful necromancer
In the multiple endings of Daggerfall, he can become either a god, a lich, or just stay a necromancer, depending on which ending you go with
And because all the endings are canon, he can be referred to as any of the three, deepening on which dragonbreak timeline you're in
This is kind of a shitty explanation, so sorry
Mannimarco, the King of Worms
He was a dick-ass Lich, and the main antagonist of Arena
Then you kill him ded for good in the mages guild in Oblivion, because there was no place for him in the game universe anymore, just like the rest of Necromancy
Thoughts on my build?
>Destruction, Short Blade, Light Armor, Mysticism, Sneak
>Restoration, Illusion, Acrobatics, Security, Illusion
Just started again yesterday after a very long break.
hi trainman how is your game coming along?
It all starts with the Psijic Order, one of the earliest influential groups of mages in history, located on the island of Artaeum(probably misspelled it) in Summerset. Mannimarco was basically a big supporter of necromancy that went way overboard and eventually had an army of necromancers, a cult, and a gajillion undead ready to take over Tamriel. It was Galerion and the Mage's Guild - which Galerion founded - that stepped up and killed Mannimarco. Unfortunately, Mannimarco became the world's first lich - first recorded or what, no one knows- by that time and eventually comes back in Oblivion to be a massive asshole. During the Warp in the West, when time went out of control, one timeline involved him becoming a god. His influence over necromancy is seen in Oblivion, where he grants powers to create black soul gems through the necromancer's moonlight.
Currently on hold while we find a suitable graphic designer for the new UI (almost everything I was coding was UI stuff, but recent developments put that on hold while we get a new, better, 3D UI)
>Relief efforts began almost a month after the mountain erupted. It was actually a directive that came from the House Redoran councilor that was living in Mournhold at the time. I can't remember his name, but he took charge of the situation and sent soldiers, supplies and able-bodied Dunmer to the outlying settlements that had been hit the hardest. I was sent to Balmora. The place was a mess; hardly anything left in town was still standing. I spent maybe two months there, helping to rebuild the town and getting my fellow Dunmer back on their feet.
if it wasn't for Redoran there literally wouldn't be shit left for the other houses
That's actually really cool then, because the mod was very lore-accurate.
You can even take Grand Soulgems to his Altars and a beam of power will turn them into Black Soulgems.
To be fair, the state of Telvanni is still unknown. We have little information on how much of the mainland was destroyed and despite the Telvanni family - which all of a sudden exists thanks to Skyrim - being wiped out by Argonians, the Argonians attacked from the south while most Telvanni territory is in the upper east. With people like Neloth just popping up and growing new houses, it's likely Telvanni is doing fine. They just don't care about what's going on in the world, especially since many can take care of themselves.
Yeah, the thing about the Telvanni being wiped out makes little sense given the actual facts, not to mention the Telvanni actual family is not the head of the house, just the founders, much like how in Morrowind Redoran's Grandmaster was Venim.
What's buggy and ugly about it?
It's not like it's hard to make lore accurate necromancy
Bethesda themselves won't touch it because it's bad and would impact sales, but decided to implement lore breaking resurrection spells anyway because people whined
Just the opposite
All the lore is told through the perspective of the people, so you have no idea what's facts or opinions, what's science and what's mythos
It's fucking great for theorycrafting and speculation
>It's fucking great for theorycrafting and speculation
Don't you guys ever get tired of just speculation? I mean it's cool up to a point, and that point is when shit just gets so convoluted that keeping it together feels more like homework.
Honestly, I just want some more facts. I'm tired of waiting for answers and each games just gives me more questions.
>So how is MW now?
Here's the current situation.
They can't take any more from Argonians because argonians are tough when they organize.
>a lot of it
sure, if you count a tiny strip in the south that includes whatevers left of Tear as a lot
Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
not really useful against an organized military force such as the Redoran
>mfw house Hlaalu died and some no name house replaced it
Argonians are subhuman scum. No match for Dunmer.
Failing that, join the Thalmor on the condition MW is fully returned to the Dunmer.
Then betray them when the empire fights them.
they're the guys they brought in when they kicked Hlaalu out for copious Imperial dicksucking
Hlaalu are still around, as Dragonborn shows, they just don't have any political swing
No. This is neither /a/ nor /tesg/ where they get tired of actual discussion and just discuss wiafus.
The few raise dead spells in Skyrim
They're unfun and bullshit and Bethesda only put it in in an attempt to please people crying about necromancy, yet also not piss off people who would be mad about necromancy
The map isn't accurate in terms of shape. It's missing a few chunks and extensions of the south east. It could be the Shrine of Azura for all we know, since the old Tribunal is being worshiped again.
We love the world. We could practically migrate to TES reality and after some fish out of the water stuff go to become top intelectuals and mages. And when you're that deep into knowledge of something, there's no stopping. You always need more. I'd say we're living TES in a small compartment of our imagination and we're trying to find our existential purpose in there. I don't care if you cry out autism, so you might as well not do it.
>alduin constantly using instal kill meteors
>common bug where player gets stuck during the transition to the second stage
>in alduin's stomach
>infinite spawning of worms and skeletons
>"Burning has been added"
>meteors still falling in his stomach for some dumb reason
Try playing it yourself and tell me what part made you uninstall the mod
I have no idea how House Dres even began to survive. Not only was their territory the entire region the argonians invaded, but the Argonians should have been the most infuriated with them since House Dres was the slaver house of Morrowind. Redoran must be doing one hell of a job keeping them alive.
>alduin constantly using instal kill meteors
Meteors only do around 100-300 damage, don't fight him at a low level.
>common bug where player gets stuck during the transition to the second stage
Occurs when conflicting mods mess with Alduin's AI, thus not letting him execute the parameters needed, loading WEB last usually helps, but so does not using shit like DCO, because it's bad.
>infinite spawning of worms and skeletons
No enemies spawn in Alduin's stomach, there are just a lot of them.
>"Burning has been added"
Occurs when you swim in the stomach acid, it's how the script works to damage you
>meteors still falling in his stomach for some dumb reason
This is Sovngarde being eaten raining down on you, shit I even think I said this somewhere multiple times.
All this really seems to come down you being a fucking moron.
>I have no idea how House Dres even began to survive
They're the most hardcore motherfuckers out there. They're the type of warriors who view Redoran, the most warrior like house as undisciplined kids. This is also the reason for their lack of power - they're too extreme for most dunmer. Dres support the hardest slavery, keep all the old traditions everyone else forgot and even do trade with Sloads. There's nothing these motherfuckers can't survive.
Yeah, no way to get around that, things like ENBoost and that one mod that reserves more memory.
When I first played morrowind I had no idea what stilt striders were.
I was fucking terrified of them as I am of all large insects the moment I got off that boat.
I spent like a half hour shooting low level shitty fireballs at it thinking it was an enemy.
>Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
>not really useful against an organized military force such as the Redoran
The way I remember it, they actually broke through and counter-invaded Mehrunes Dagon's plane of Oblivion, and they had to blow up the gates themselves to stop them.
I dont remember them.
Why bother adding necromancy and half assing it?
Speak for yourself.
Magic would just be used to augument my abilities. Primarily I want to beat Thalmor to deat with a mace for the empire. The magic is just for gettting up close and not being caught.
God I hate Thalmor.
No idea about this mod, but even if it's buggy shit it's much better than the final boss was. I have never seen such a difference between in game lore and having something limited due to gameplay.
Well, I admit most of it is conjecture on my part, as they never really went into the specifics of necromancy, like why would "necromancers" be a big thing and have all that shit they have and do all that shit they do if they could just raise anything with a simple spell
However in the realm of easier to prove shit, it was also stated very clearly in The Black Arts on Trial that even a little necromancy requires a blood sacrifice and taints your soul
Necromncy is a big no no in the Epire iirc.
Not him btw.
>Argonian 'organization' is a hivemind swarm with literally no tactical thinking, I think one of the phrases was "clogged the Oblivion Gates with corpses"
Stalin would be proud.
How the fuck should I know, I was the only one getting off the boat and the guards back was turned.
To my younger mind it seemed like the intro sequence would be this giant bug wrecking the town and me escaping in the confusion.
Then it actually happened 15 years later with skyrim and wasn't nearly as good as I thought it would be
>C0DA graphic novel STILL not finished
This is suffering
I know anon. I was actually kidding. I was scared shitless by the Silt Strider too.
>step out of Census office into courtyard
>dig through barrel, get healing ring
>suddenly, that distant silt strider moan
>get really scared and run inside
Give it time, Anon.
I started playing Morrowind for the first time about a week ago, after having only experienced Oblivion and Skyrim (both of which I enjoyed)
But man, now I see why everyone thinks those two games lesser
Morrowind is like ten bajillion times more interesting and unique, and isn't just standard copypaste fantasy land
As if space travel is something special.
They didn't have to figure out. When Azura made them, she invented moon sugar, told them what it was and how it was made, that they could go on the moon and how to keep all this a secret from everybody else. She even designed them with lunar lattice forms, and the whole cat thing to help them in every possible scenario.
>Is it any good?
If you're deeply into the lore, then probably. Otherwise it'll seem like nonsense and you won't make the right connections. It's demanding material. I'd say wait for the graphic novel to be finished if you're a normal TES fan.
ALMALEXIA AND I ARE STABILIZING A POCKET REAL, BROTHER! WE'LL HIT EARTH-TYPE GROUND! WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING THAT TINGLE OUT OF EVERYONE'S HEAD VIA OUR HYPER-AMYGDALAS!
DAGOTH UR, QUIT STARING INTO THE SALES FOAM!
BUT EVERYTHING'S ONLY $19.95!
You're making me want to play TES again, but I've played the DICK off Morrowind.
Once upon a time, I modded the hell out of Skyrim but never played it. I have no idea what I did. Maybe I should go look at see if I made it any good, I don't remember anymore.
The soundtrack for Secret of Evermore was his very first video game project, when he worked for Squaresoft NA.
Secret of Evermore was their one and only game. After it shipped, Squaresoft shut down their game-producing functions forever.
dude Morrowind lore is just babies first Christian Mysticism with some Hindu flavor thrown in
plus Skyrim was great lore-wise
Kirkbride is kind of a hack anyways and just writes a lot of esoteric sounding shit with no substance most often
im honestly going to wait the years
foreveruntil beyond skyrim gets content out. so far they have a decent amount of work into hammerfell elswyer and empire. im not touching skyrim again until that gets done
real life Dwarves in myths are also just elves who live underground
Glad I wasn't the only one getting fucking EoE vibes from c0da.
Just swap tumbling down with GEARS GEARS GEARS.
Michael Kirkbride and Hideaki Anno would probably make great drinking buddies.
>he doesn't know about the Tsaesci
They're also vampires
Akavir my nigger.
It's basically supposed to be the Asia of Elderscrolls, except it's supposed to have freaky snake vampires, tiger people, half dragon people, etc. and they've tried to invade Tamriel several times but have failed.
They make it sound like a place that's constantly warring as well.
I haven't read too much into the lore, but wasn't that quest in Oblivion saying that they raped the nords but only got as far as northern Cyrodiil? Also, among the ruins of Pale Pass were human skeletons, so one must assumed they have human soldiers in their army as well.
That's what I thought, I haven't played an ES game in a while so I thought I might have read something wrong.
>no visible breasts
thats a man
Nah man, they had the crown prince and the Emperor assassinated and took over.
I don't really understand why people try to argue the whole "They're just the TES equivalent of Asian men" angle. Vampiric snake-people aren't that weird in the grand scheme of things. It's not hard to accept.
>I don't really understand why people try to argue the whole "They're just the TES equivalent of Asian men" angle
Nobody tries to argue that
I wasn't trying to argue that
I said nobody knows what the fuck they look like because nobody knows what the fuck they look like
>there will never be a Dynasty Warriors game based off Elder Scrolls
>you'll never play a campaign in Akaviri lands and follow in the steps of Tiber Septim
>Tsaesci is "Snake Palace", once the strongest power in Akavir (before the Tiger-Dragon came). The serpent-folk ate all the Men of Akavir a long time ago, but still kind of look like them. They are tall, beautiful (if frightening), covered in golden scales, and immortal. They enslave the goblins of the surrounding isles, who provide labor and fresh blood. The holdings of Tsaesci are widespread. When natives of Tamriel think of the Akaviri they think of the Serpent-Folk, because one ruled the Cyrodilic Empire for four hundred years in the previous era. He was Potentate Versidue-Shaie, assassinated by the Morag Tong.
>They enslave the goblins of the surrounding isles, who provide labor and fresh blood.
>provide labor and fresh blood.
Real life steppe nomads will bleed their horses and drink it for sustenance. I wouldn't call them vampires though I would call them metal as fuck.
Actually blood figures into a lot of specific cuisines.
> He knew that "beastfolk" referred to the natives of Tamriel, not to the Tsaesci of Akavir like himself.
Why would it be noteworthy for Versidue-Shaie to say this unless it could be construed that he is a part of a beast race?
>"First," Tosh Raka says, "is that we kill all the vampire snakes." Then the Tiger-Dragon Emperor wants to invade Tamriel.
>Elder Scrools game with Akavir races/content
>we finally get a decent Unarmed/Hand to hand combat system
That was the one thing that pissed me off about Skyrim. Unarmed combat was treated like shit and you could only do it effectively if you wore heavy armor, defeating the purpose.
But that could mean anything from giant snake to naga to slightly longer argonian
"Beast race" is not a specific physical description
Why are you still confusing me for your "they're just asians" strawman?
Sorry. It was the main thing that pissed me off about Skyrim.
To be honest most shit can be fixed with mods, but unarmed is still kind of lacking even with that unarmed combat Monk overhaul.
Because that isn't a strawman, people legitimately argue that. The distinction is mostly "are they actually a 'beast race' or are they just human beings?" Now if you want to get down to what their exact body proportions are, well I dunno if any text exists to describe those details.
>mfw I read that in Dagoth's commanding voice
Are there any traps in the elder scrolls?
No seriously, is there any mention of gender variance in TES, aside from Vivec? It actually seems pretty egalitarian in terms of gender politics. I wonder if anyone would give a shit if some was a poofter.
>MFW I just remembered that guy arguing with Kirkbride on the forums that there was no gay people in elder scrolls
>SJWs cry about TES not being progressive
>Vivec and Molag Bal running around fucking anything that moves
Saint Juib best saint.
Of all the mods I put into Morrowind, the two that I liked the most didn't do very much, but they changed everything. One added a bunch of birds, and one added a bunch of fish. None of them were hostile, but for some reason those small additions made the entire world feel more alive.
Vivec is a hermaphrodite that has raped and gotten raped while Molag Bal is the literal king of rape. The only part they'd like is Vivec being a hermaphrodite, everything else is a trigger minefield.
I don't know whether I should play Morrowind vanilla first, or get the Overhaul.
I just have a feeling that the Overhaul just completely changes the fucking game and takes away from the original feel of the grand design.
From pictures seen in the original Morrowind, the area looks more like a swamp. the Overhaul just makes the area look more like a fucking rice field.
Some weird person, who seems more trans* than trans, seems to have made up or misinterpreted something Kirkbride said. Kirkbride is pretty (hilariously) childish at times, like when he drew a picture of a heckler's diseased penis, but he's actually very friendly to LGBT people and that's why they feature so strongly in his fictions.
He's also an egalitarian type feminist, which is why he writes strong women who have equal and even dominant relationships with men and with their own sexuality.
Kirkbride is basically a sane version of the SJWs that 4chan hates so much.
Fuck the overhaul.
Install better bodies, either better heads or the pluginless westly heads mod, madd leveler, a mod or two that changes gameplay to your liking and you are golden.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's a representation of his dick which in TES means it is his dick. So either way, it's his dick.
He's more like the insert of the author's obsession with all stuff. The funny thing is that if you actually read up on Vivec, he's not a Mary Sue at all. A lot of people recognize him for being an asshole, even MK's fiancee recently said he's not a noble hero and attempting to wipe out most dunmer was a dick move.
>he's not a Mary Sue at all.
He is to Kirkbride. You can't really argue this. He's the figure that has the most written about him, he gets away with fucking murder and he's still loved.
>gets away with murder and is still loved
Welcome to TES. People love Talos but the guy was a murderer and a traitor. Stormcloak is king of the assholes and people will defend him like a father. He's definitely Kirkbride's love baby but even he can't write Vivec without making him an asshole. However, if there was ever a case of Vivec being a Mary Sue I would say only the Trial of Vivec counts, since the attention on Vivec seems to warp everything in his favor. Azura goes from well spoken to retard spaz, Vivec goes from crazed poet to lunatic on a crack high. And all that is from a roleplaying session. Imagine how others felt in that session, watching MK masturbate to Vivec.
>nothing truly exists, it's all just a dream
I never understood how this logic seems sound because a dream, even in the metaphorical sense, implies a dreamer. Illusions are real, not in that what they appear to be is what they actually are, but that they are actual phenomena that exist. Therefore just saying "it isn't real" misses an important point.
I interpret it as being something like, her God-speech is on some weird but grand other level that is difficult to parse for normal folk, which is conveyed through an awkward capslocked style.
Daedric Princes speak perfectly fine anon
Azura is just a qt
>tfw bal isra is so shit you just make your own redoran stronghold mod
I also want to replay the game, mostly because Tamriel Rebuild but you know what?
I'll simply wait for OpenMW.
There are a lot of games I still have to beat so I don't bother with it.
redoran best style
redoran best house
except the exteriors look like vaginas
Well, a lot of people love the idea of Vivec and the more they know, the less they tend to like him as an actual person. There's some people on /tesg/ who, upon hearing how he likely caused the Red Year intentionally, despise him. Most people who declare Vivec as the best fucking thing ever are usually part of the MK cult anyway and Vivec obsession is the tip of the iceberg for them. Either that or they're new to lore and Vivec's sermons and synopsis shows them how weird stuff gets.
OpenMW is pretty far in its development actually. I was a bit doubtful but I wouldn't be surprised to see it finish within a year, if not less. Modding for Morrowind will feel significantly better.
I really hate the 36 sermons and anything tribunal/MK related
it tries way too hard to be super deep and religious and it's all so phoney. The C0DA wank is especially fucking stupid.
Hey, all I said was people who declare him as the best fucking thing ever. I like Vivec despite him being a monster but I also dislike him a lot for being a monster. It's a two faced relationship. Little Vivec humor for you folks at home. But no, seriously, there's a ton of people who will just fawn over what others tell them happened. What, Vivec's spear is his symbolic dick? WHHHHAAAAAATT? I thought TES was so normal but Kirkbride's insane....FUCKING INSANE!!! WHOOOAAA! Kiss my ass Todd, Kirkbride should be in charge!
People who say Vivec is some benevolent ruler who is into kinky sex don't really pay attention to what he says and does. He straight up tells his people that if they stop loving him he will murder them. Dude was an asshole and a traitor.
I love the sermons and most of MK's text. However, the more you read the more you realize where a lot of "depth" and "complexity" comes from. So much of the texts revolve around simply taking something you already know, like Convention, and calling it the House of We. Or just referring to something in its most basic forms, like how Vivec calls Azura a heshe-bitch. It's still flavorful and I'm tempted to call it techniques more than tricks, since essentially a lot of writing does the same thing but in more typical fashion.
It was a roleplay session featuring MK as Vivec. MK + internet is already a dubious ass formula but MK + internet + rp outlet? You can watch but I dare you to participate. Since Trial of Vivec feels so insanely deviant from the actual story, it's one of the few pieces of texts I hardly consider canon. It just feels like an MK wankfest.
You can like an evil character for being evil, but people who just try to excuse blatantly evil things with "his mommy never hugged him as a child" or other shit is just stupid
They're evil, there's no excusing them
Rejoice in the interesting character depth