Nintendo has officially stated that sheik is a woman:
People are still in huge denial and will do anything to prove sheik is still a man despite this news, such as citing non canon information or claiming a person can be whatever gender he wants.
SHUT THE FUCK UP
IT DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL
SHEIK IS STILL ZELDA AND THUS A WIZARD WHO CAN REMAIN A REGULAR GIRL OR GROW A DICK. WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE JERKIN OFF TO.
STOP HARPING ON THIS YOU RETARDED SACKS OF SHIT
>Being a wizard automatically means you can cast any spell to do anything
Ya, because being a dentist means you can perform any surgery on any animal or human, right? Retard.
Zelda simply disguised herself as a guy. She didn't have a penis.
>her disguise was so effective that even a decade and a half later there are people who still refuse to believe they were rused
Remember /v/, sheik is a guy.
If we let nintendo say Sheik is a girl, then Anita Sarkeesian wins and video games as we know it will end
Remember we must put women in their place back in the kitchen.
Now chant with me
Sheik is a guy.
Sheik is a guy.
Shiek is a guy
Even if somebody officially involved with it "confirmed" it, it still wouldn't matter. They know that Western audiences aren't as comfortable with the idea of gender changing, that's why they've begun to portray Sheik with increasingly feminine characteristics in each iteration since OoT. It's marketing.
>If we let nintendo say Sheik is a girl, then Anita Sarkeesian wins and video games as we know it will end
You made this post already you dumb nigger. Stop trying to use Guilt by Association to get your way. You're a hetero and that's that.
Congratulations, OP. Thanks to people like you, the "official confirmation" have brought up more debate threads than ever before.
The real question is why Zelda wouldn't want a magical dick? If she has the power to, she should.
>Someone from Nintendo had to officially confirm something that was confirmed when the game came out
The hell is wrong with these people
How the fuck did anyone get confused on this is the first place?
Shiek isn't a unique new character, it's fucking Zelda in disguise.
Are people really so autistic they didn't get that?
>MAN LET ME SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE!
oh fuck up.
>Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories. However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the concept of a distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender.
So gender is a vague as fuck word. Since a butch female could theoretically be male and Prissy gay man could be female. But that shit starts getting fucking complicated when considering pitcher catcher roles.
Gender is a buzzword.
They get so pissed when a transgender girl passes. There was a transgirl who after a few months started passing and she was bashed for conforming to society's standards. They spammed her new friends and coworkers telling them that that she was a man once all because she passed and she was pretty.
Why would people think she literally turned into a man? she didn't even change her fucking hair color for fucks sake, if she was going to change her sex she would probably change her hair
>It's just a retcon for the new Dynasty Warriors version
>a musou game about all the Zelda timelines colliding with another.
>Sheik is from OoT
Sheik does not just change genders for the sake of a dynasty warriors clone. That is retarded. Just fucking admit to yourself jerked off to a woman.
I wouldn't say "they" as in the whole group, just a few bitchy retards. You've gotta remember, tumblr is basically Female 4chan, and girls are vicious hateful beasts. We'll just call each other faggots and move on, but on tumblr they bide their time and let their grudges stew and fester.
Part of it is about justifying the porn. The other half is social justice pc pushing shit like with Tomadachi life. Nintendo said something they didn't like and now they're chimping out.
Yeah so? If some other company makes a spin off game they can do whatever they want with the characters. Like how they changed the appearances of everyone and their abilities.
Can we please get someone to take the Zelda and Sheik models from OoT and overlay them in a 3D modeling program? See if they have the same body structure?
If they don't, Sheik obviously has changed her body to be a male's. If they are the same, she is a girl.
I want to talk about motherfucking Zelda and Hyrule Warriors. It is impossible to do that when all of you retards refuse to stop yapping on about whether or not the princess has a dick.
So please just let it the fuck go already.
That's fine. But that is just what I think happend.
Well apart from them having a different physique and physical capabilities. Sure she lacked a penis but it was a kids game.
You didn't even read my entire post. Nor did you read my
So go read it again and know that I was referring to the word
As a convoluted mess that was made to have GLBT community feel like special snow flakes. Nothing fuvking more.
Someone did last night actually and they don't.
Also eye and skin and hair color are different.
That's the whole debate, not HURRR SJW, but the fact that a lot of people in the game use male pronouns for Shiek and her form is magically changed. This isn't some stupid boogeyman debate you braindead retards, it's just been something that was never completely clear.
That you interpreted it that way says very interesting things about your psyche.
Tell me anon, what do you dream about?
Has this always been a thing or did this surface after the SJW shit started picking up speed? Because I would assume that literally any person who play OoT knew without a shadow of a doubt that Shiek was Zelda and that Zelda is a girl. Even pretending there is some Shiekah magic or whatever that could genderswap, she fucking had bandages over her tits, obviously to keep them from popping out.
You can at least see if the face and the arms are the same. See if they're the same height and things match up the best they can. It would end the debate once and for all.
Considering she doesn't seem to have any breasts at all and shows to have a male-muscled chest, if she changes her body enough with magic, it must be a male's.
They look like two very different models, but we need actual proof and comparison of the bodies. If someone can actually find the 3D models, I'd try to learn how to do this shit myself so I can lay the debate to rest.
The answer is that Sheik was designed to appear ambiguously male in order to mislead players and not designed off Zelda's model. This doesn't affect the actual canon wherein she is a female.
It's a bit like arguing that Link really does have pink hair in A Link to the Past.
Somebody already overlaid the official artworks in the last thread. The hips are the same, and the legs might be (hidden under Zelda's skirt), but the shoulders and face are different.
>If some other company makes a spin off game they can do whatever they want with the characters.
Not if they want to get fired.
Pretty sure that Bill had to go through reading Nintendo's Zelda bible before speaking on Nintendo's behalf. If Bill were to have misrepresented Nintendo, we would've been hearing from Miyamoto and PR damage control right about now.
I feel like anyone surprised that there was ever a debate, and who insists that "shiek is a dude" supporters are SJW, are complete newfags that are totally unfamiliar with Zelda a series.
well if she wants to be seen as a male in order for nobody to find out about her why not?
she is fucking magical, why make a disguise for yourself to look a lil like a guy when you can literally change yourself into a male and then people definitely won't find you.
Yo I'm pretty sure "gender" has been used fairly interchangeably with "sex" for 500, at least. This Money guy may have made a distinction between the two for the first time but the claim that "gender" was a purely grammatical term before that is ridiculous.
If she was going to do something as drastic as change her sex why would she still choose an appearance that looks so similar to her normal appearance?
If she was going to go that far why wouldn't she change her appearance drastically? She doesn't even change her hair or voice.
Actually that does kinda make sense, Zelda had to have such a good disguise that Ganondorf's super broken magic could never find her. The MOMENT she became Zelda again Ganondorf found her, so the Shiek disguise must have been more than some tit wrapping and contacts.
I am not implying she turned herself into a raging sexual beast. But she probably just thought let's turn into a guy so nobody will notice me AND I am also stronger now.
She does change her hair colour.
She is looking for a clever disguise not a shit obvious disguise.
Yeah fair point, perhaps that was simply a time limit on game development or they didn't see the point in hiring a guy just to make a few grunts.
If Zelda can magically transform her body into a perfect male replica with male body structure and muscle, does that not mean she becomes a male? Like when Link turns into a bunny in the Dark World, are you saying that he's still human? Fuck no, it's magic.
She alters her body to become male. It is more than a disguise.
how does she look similar? She looks like a really muscular guy who doesn't afraid of anything.
maybe she can't do that i dont fucking know. but is it that much of a logical leap to just think she wanted to be disguised as a male so ganon can't find her.
>but the fact that a lot of people in the game use male pronouns for Shiek
No shit, she's wearing a disguise. The characters in Fire Emblem: Awakening refer to Lucina with male pronouns while she's disguised, does that mean that her mask magically transforms her into a guy?
This isn't a new development. She's been a girl since OoT and has been constantly said to be female.
Only fetishes fags care about this kind of shit. Only thing it efects me is what pronoun I use, I always used female anyway because it's Zelda in hiding.
I have also discovered that there isn't any porn of Sheik fucking Zelda whats up with that?
And I'm glad I can agree with tumblr on something for once. Those trannies that bitch about "gender norms" whilst trying to be living caricatures of them really do deserve to be knocked down a peg or two.
THE USE MALE PRONOUNS FOR HER NAME BECAUSE SHE DISGUISED HERSELF AS A MALE TO AVOID HER IDENTITY GETTING OUT JUST LIKE MULAN DID. HOLY FUCK I'M MAD YOU FAGGOTS CAN'T SEE THIS.
>not knowing what padding it is
>not knowing about breast hiding bandages
>"i want to hide from ganondorf so ill just look exactly like i do as a woman but in different clothing"
>its entirely impossible that zelda may have used magic to make her more masculine or change her racial appearance so she wont look like regular zelda but it makes total sense that she uses magic to grow a dick and balls
Fags just try to take refuge in the idea that she was intended to have grown a penis in OoT and that further statements by Nintendo are a retcon. Simply because she never said she didn't grow a dick.
If my dad wore my mom's make up and clothes that does not make him my mom.
Ouch, what a sharp edge.
Only in biology, which doesn't much care about the psychology of a person.
No shit, dumbass, I'm saying why the debate exists in the first place. Eat a dick.
well tbh why are you even thinking about growing a dick in a childs game.
the focus is completely seperate from genitals. as a kid if you heard "and then she turned herself into a male so he couldn't find her" you don't instantly think of a penis.
or at least I didn't.
This argument is older than some of you think. Certainly older than tumblr. I'm pretty sure I was aware of it by the time SSBM came out, at least.
Of course Sheik is Zelda's disguise. That part was never in question. But considering it's a magic disguise that alters her entire appearance and is intended to make her look like a man, people were wondering how far she actually took it.
>Ganondorf's super all seeing magic can't see through some makeup and a face mask
I refuse to believe that.
If he was watching Link he probably would have noticed the seven or so other times that Sheik appeared to him.
Also Ganondorf can detect the holder of a Triforce piece.
I'm not saying Shiek is male or female, I'm saying that Sheik isn't just Zelda with a tit wrap and a tan, there's gotta be a bit more magic behind it.
>Simply because she never said she didn't grow a dick.
This is like History Channel's explanation involving Ancient Aliens.
>Well you see, the archives never did say there weren't aliens!
>People actually care about this shit
>People genuinely think about Zelda growing herself a cock.
1. Sheik Trophy: "This is Zelda's alter ego. Using a variation of the name of the ancient Sheikah tribe, she appears before Link and teaches him melodies instrumental to his success. It's believed that she's not just a quick-change artist, but rather that she is able to instantaneously alter her clothing and her eye and skin color by using her magical skills."
Another excuse is saying Sheik's voice is male.
No, its not. The one who makes the voice of Princess Zelda is a Japanese actress named Jun Mizusawa.
And guess who makes Sheik's voice? Jun Mizusawa as well.
3."Sheik is male because Sheik has a manly body figure" Well, have you ever seen athletic woman bodies? Pic related.
4. No Bulge I mean shes wearing spandex. You would of been able to tell. You can tell on Ganondorf.
5. SHEIK HIDES HER FACE FOR A REASON
Why Would sheik grow a penis and then still hide her face by covering it up?
What's the point if you have the body of a dude and hide with a scarf and change your eye color and skin? You can't say because male sheikahs cover their face, all the sheikahs we have seen are female. And they don't completely cover their body in spandex like Sheik did. OOT Impa did not fully cover her body in spandex and skyward impa did not do that either. Sheik is the only one who covers her body completely unlike other sheikahs. Why? Because she doesn't change into a male. She has to hide herself completely.
6. The two-parter: 1. A Gossip Stone says that Princess Zelda is a tomboy, which would explain why she chose to make Sheik a boy.
"They say that, contrary to her elegant image, Princess Zelda of Hyrule Castle is actually a tomboy!"
2. Impa is the last of her race and would be the only one who could teach Zelda the ways of the Sheikahs.
7. Zelda tells Link straight out that she was Sheik, she TELLS you herself right here she was Sheik all along and that she was in disguise to hide from Ganondorf! She also says she is fully aware. TBC.
>Zelda straight up telling you that she was Sheik in OoT
>In your fucking face in the Temple of Time
>People still want to believe it was a guy
Then again there are people who try to argue that JFK didn't die from a bad case of getting shot in the head.
>People genuinely think about Zelda growing herself a cock
as a child I did not think about that at all, and I thought Sheik was a male Zelda.
I just didn't care about that shit, and I just didn't care enough.
>/v/ is in denial that Poison is a tranny
>/v/ is in denial that Sheik is a man
What's with /v/ wanting dick with breasts on everything?
Psychology is deprecated. Neuroscience and biology, true sciences based on trufax, disprove your fantasy bullshit. Go back to crossdressing in private, you pervert; as far as the truth is concerned, you're all just a bunch of fetishist revisionists with a toxic "the grass is greener" mentality.
>"They say that, contrary to her elegant image, Princess Zelda of Hyrule Castle is actually a tomboy!"
Oh you silly japs
8. Bill Trinen whom is a higher up with Nintendo, who deals with Miyamoto and Aonuma personally, has confirmed Sheik is female.
9. A four-parter this time. SHEIK IS JUST A DISGUISE
In the Hyrule Historia scans it points out how Zelda was just wearing a disguise and pretending to be Sheik:
1."The leader of the sages was Princess Zelda, who bore the Triforce of Wisdom in her hand. Zelda had been waiting for this moment to reveal to Link that she was Sheik."
2."Princess Zelda had no other option but to wait for Link’s seal to break. In order to escape from the Demon King, she impersonated a young Sheikah boy and kept her identity hidden under the name of Sheik."
3."Princess Zelda, as Sheik, played the harp and gave advice to Link. The mission entrusted to Link was to break the curse in 5 temples and wake up the sages."
4."Princess Zelda taught Link special songs with her harp in order to
guide him to the temples."
10. in Eiji Aonuma's interview by Kotaku in November 2009 before Spirit Tracks got released, he does mention Sheik and look what he actually said:
"We recently received information from a survey conducted in the US that indicated that, among our female characters, users had a preference for those that were more on the independent side, such as Sheik and Tetra." Eijin Aonuma himself called Sheik a female.
11. NINTENDO CONFIRMS SHEIK'S GENDER..AGAIN. pic related.
I know you people aren't fans of the gender/sex distinction but I'd say it's relevant in this case, because even if Zelda altered the contents of her trousers for the sake of disguise, she's mentally still herself.
Of course, if it's just the contents of the trousers you were interested in, that's not an answer.
>Can find a 3D Sheik model to compare to the 3D Zelda
>But there is no adult Zelda model I can find online
Why the fuck hasn't anybody uploaded one yet? I've been looking around for a while. I need to prove to y'all fags exactly how different she is, and overlaying the two models in a 3D space will prove it.
>Mei Ling confirms it takes powerful magic to simply change skin and eye colour
>people still think she would go through the trouble of growing an unnecessary dick
And if he was watching Link he would have seen Sheik many times helping him. Ganon clearly couldn't see through that disguise.
>You must be my boogeyman, nobody can disagree with me!
>Neuroscience disproves it
I've never seen neuroscience comment on transgender business except for that one study regarding brain structure.
Excluding the obvious "epic" trolls that keep saying Sheik is a man to make people mad since OoT release, I really don't see how a normal person can think Sheik is a man.
I mean, the logic is rather straightfoward:
> Zelda is a girl
> Sheik is Zelda in disguise
> Hence Sheik is a girl
So you were an autistic child who didn't understand the concept of gender.
Protip: I wouldn't tell anyone else about that, nor would I spend time arguing with others about it. Keep that business to yourself, the rest of us had no problem realizing that Zelda was just in disguise and didn't magically turn herself in to a guy.
>all these transfaglets getting assannihilated within an inch of their sanity over the fact that OoT doesn't cater to their SJW faggotry
Aside from the last two, you're just telling us that Zelda and Sheik are the same person. No fucking shit.
THE WHOLE POINT over this 15 year old debate has just been "how far did Zelda take her magical disguise?"
Why is the Zelda hardcore fanbase so fucking retarded? Why ca't you faggots enjoy the game wihtout find a issue with the smallest bullshit you can, you are almost as bad as the FE comunity
>chinese girl thinking science is magic
fuck the debate lets debate on how chinese bitches be stupid
That's not fucking good enough, Anon. I want to compare them with all the details from all the angles. Maybe I can get inside Sheik's hood and directly compare it with Zelda's face to see how much the facial structure changed. How much larger her hands are. And for all I know, the scale could've changed in those pictures. Sheik may be taller than Zelda.
When the models are actually compared, it will be complete proof that she changes her body physically, and is more than a disguise. Magic is some serious shit.
wow guys I guess Ganon is a female too!
he has no bulge!
>Remember when going to /v/ to call everyone a newfag to establish your own /v/irginity
Fishing for more pics of rotting toddlers on all your favourite tumblr tags?
Assuming that because someone is masquerading as a guy that they now magically have a dick and are actually male is pretty autistic dude.
Maybe you should look up what Autism actually is. It's a developmental disorder that makes connecting logical points difficult.
A woman was masquerading as a guy.
That guy is really a woman, and was never a guy in the first place.
Simple logic that I had no problem dealing with as a child.
>impersonating= growing a dick and balls
a woman impersonates elvis presley therefore she is a man and now has dick and balls
This same manga never says she literally became male and even goes on to suggest that she has a rather delicate body.
Why the fuck is this even a debate? Haven't we known Sheik was Zelda since Ocarina of Time? Are people suddenly implying she grows a dick when she becomes Sheik? I don't understand?
Threadly reminder to ignore the Pro-male sheik shitposting and to post http://www.freewebs.com/sheiksevensage/sheiksgender.htm
Much like dealing with Klonies by telling him to shut the fuck up. We can deal with the shitposters.
Her arms get twice as thick, probably her legs as well judging by how cramped Shiek's would be in that dress
It's either a fucklot of padding or they just didn't bother using Zelda's model as a base for Shiek
>now magically have a dick
did you not read what I said, I didn't even THINK about that as a child. it literally didn't even cross my mind. Male and Female were just words.
Just because we made DIFFERENT logical connections doesn't mean I found them difficult to make.
It's the height of trans-oppression that everybody misgenders Ganondorf as the "King of Evil". At what point did he ever say he wasn't a woman? Look at the facts, big earrings, all female society, nail polish, big jewels and hairpieces.
Anon, those are just pictures that are not in the game. You can't compare them directly and measure them from different perspectives. I fucking saw those posts when they were posted. Do you think I really give a shit?
Threads like these need proof. We will be able to see exactly how different their faces and bodies are in the game that we played, and we will actually be able to measure it from all angles. It is not the same.
>/v/ is mad because they found out they've been jerking it to a female
>She is looking for a clever disguise not a shit obvious disguise.
You know what would have been a clever disguise? Using her magic cock magic to change her face to that of a man and her hair to a red or brown, which was a far more common hair color than blond in OoT era Hyrule. I mean fuck how many blondes are there in the game? Two? Nah lets just give her a dick, that'll hide her.
Stop posting these fucking threads. Seriously, I dont know why the fuck you care so much but theres been the same fucking thread made since its been announced. It doesnt even matter.
>It doesn't exist except when it does
so why does he suddenly lose that strength when she turns back into Zelda?
it's clearly gained via magic
again she changes hair style in an INSTANT when she changes back to Zelda. aka Magic.
yeah man they sure had fucking contacts in Hyrule.
What's the problem? Of course she's a woman, she just has a little extra.
>why do people think that my fair pristine perfect beautiful waifu Zelda-hime would ever debase herself by growing, slowly at first, then more rapidly, a solid, thick rigid turgid uncut penis, flopping out of her cunny like a swelling tub, hot and dripping with fresh pussy juice, while she begins panting and swirming, unfamiliar with the added wieght and heft, physically drained from the draining of moisture from her body to fill her new member that she can't resist releasing her anus slightly, allowing a discrete squeek to escape
>you will never break Shiek, emotionally tormenting and abusing her by calling her a sick perverted faggot
So why are people so convinced she magics herself a dick anyway? Does /v/ think Gannon is just walking around like fucking Volgin from MGS3, grabbing people by the dick all the time? Do people think that Gannon ordered his army to fucking strip search everyone who acts suspicious? For what reason would Zelda need a god damn penis?
>Still retarded enough to think that I'm saying Sheik is a dude
Eat a dick. My entire point is that she used magic for the disguise, magic to change her form into another. It's not just tit wraps and posture changes.
/x/ is the worst board.
It was a just a fan theory people latched onto because sheik had no tits, and the fans had a genderbending fetish.
Personally, I always thought it was clear that she tied her tits down with those clearly visible bandages under her outfit.
>the Shrek character
>autists don't notice and keep arguing
It's funny, I used to be the most tolerant person I know. I would literally tolerate anything as long as it didn't hurt someone else.
Now I'm an absolutely hateful asshole and it's all because of these cunts. I wonder if they realize how utterly counter productive their methods are.
>it's far, far more likely that Zelda, one of the strongest magic users in the LoZ universe and holder of the Triforce of Wisdom, went to ContactsAdvance and ordered professionally made red contact lenses instead of just using magic to change herself
because switching gender is a really good disguise?
shown by the fact multiple characters thought she was male. So what else would help to pull of this disguise?
actually BEING a male.
Exactly fucking this, how is it so fucking inconceivable to these people who are obsessed with thinking Zelda turns into a guy that Zelda used magic to just make herself look a little buffer, make her curves hidden a bit better, and not growing a fucking cock?
Zelda is a women
Shiek is Zelda disguised as a man.
They key word here is disguised. Shiek is a women pretending to be a man. So the persona Shiek is male, but shiek is still a women.
This is very easy to understand but some people don't want to admit they want to bang a reverse trap.
>not reading the thread
yeah maybe. I am not Miyamoto so I don't know for certain.
As I said at the very start this is merely what I think they originally intended. I could be wrong though.
Shiek's genitals are never exposed so growing a dick is pointless. If you're going to mention Ganondorf's cock radar, provide proof that such a thing even exists and isn't just fan fiction.
Low quality bait
>mfw this shit is put on to a collage and sent to Anita as a representation of /v/s mildless and rampant distaste for her, despite most of us having some pretty great arguments against her beliefs
Nah, I've been to all those places and /x/ is the worst.
Yeah. I mean, if you're a tourneyfag, just admit you're a game mechanic exploiting fuck and move on.
Don't try and tell me that the game was intended to be played the way you play it.
I never ever argued about Ganon's cock radar.
and sheik being a female is also headcanon.
I agree that modern Sheik is a female. But this doesn't change whether or not they originally intended Sheik to be a male, which I think they did.
Okay let me thow a bone here
A few years ago, you'd assume people that has reached a place like 4chan had a minimum knowledge of japanese culture, but seeing how things are lately, I'll need to explain it for retards that didnt bother lurking in the first place before spouting stupid, baseless opinions without a second thought
That thing, those "bandaids" you see under sheik's armpits, are called sarashi. Look at the original pic, and now at mine. Those "baindaids" around her, are called "sarashi", and its basically a long stripe of cloth wrappped around the breasts, and its purpose its exactly the same as any regular bra, to cover breasts, but sarashi's have been popularly known for being better at the duty of restraining and hiding them.
Now, why would sheik wear one of those?
She's an athletic ninja, concealing her identity and even her gender was the point of her disguise, but also preventing her boobs to happily hang to wherever they want at every movement she did and making her more difficult to keep her balance.
If you saw any show about titty ninjas, you know the shit they pull its bullshit, if you didnt, go watch any show of titty ninjas, they'll eventually tell you about sarashis
>Bill Trinen whom is a higher up with Nintendo, who deals with Miyamoto and Aonuma personally, has confirmed Sheik is female.
with neither of those two backing him Bill is a fucking tard most of the time
>celebrating and bragging instigating a dead battle against noboduy because Big Daddy Nintendo said I'm Right!
>taking everything literally in a setting with magic and genre conventions
>You guys just think of "growing a dick" all day long!! out of nowhere, nonstop, seriously just search this thread and see all the results
>they have to invent every buzzword boogieman they can think of to discredit their imaginary opponents
I didn't think anyone would care so much about something this pointless. Weren't people joking about this more than a decade ago?
No, because I don't need to escape from a black man trying to steal my triangular jewelry.
Also why is zelda pretending to be shiek in this if she is a fully capable warrior who has ganon, zant, and every big baddy besides vatti on their side?
Unless its some reverse aladdin shit then i cant explain it.
Who called in the tumblr head artillery?
/pol/ is here. They just keep getting blown the fuck out so they're migrating to the other women hating threads where they can circlejerk together instead of talking about video games.
i don't understand shiekfag logic.
it's not like women hasn't historically bound their breasts to blend as men. it doesn't make her identify as a man, she was only hiding from captors. Shiek would very well still identify as a woman, she's not hanging around the carpenters for manly adventures.
He say's no, he think's he's a 1:1 in everything else though.
I have some evidence which I have stated before.
But that evidence is only in relation to their original intent with the character.
Physical capabilities (jumping higher)
and Physique (looks stronger, has the physique more akin to males than females).
Have you seen /x/ lately? They start /pol/ threads but then justify it as /x/ because unlike "The ignorant unenlightened red pills" They know that the end game is summoning the anti-christ.
It's like the fundamentalist Christians /pol/ rejects found a safe haven to voice their beliefs without being called JIDF on /pol/ since they'd likely be try to steer the conversation into Satanist and Demon blamming rather then jews.
>oh no my life is in danger!
she could tear the dress or do SOMETHING instead of being a slow little shit that cna't jump over a 3ft wall of fire even though Sheik can jump plenty higher.
and it is your headcanon that thinks they originally intended Sheik to be female. whatchu gonna do?
It helps her fit in with her disguise. Clearly the n64 isn't capable of sharing every little detail, but perhaps if the game had the EXACT same intention and was intended to be for a more mature audience with modern day technology perhaps she would have a bulge.
Heck Ganon doesn't have one in OoT either so clearly it isn't something they were going to include in the game whether she was male or female.
I remember when there were Zelda theory threads and not once was there never any mention about Sheik actually being male. Most of the theories were fucking stupid but this shit takes the cake.
>this is what I said from the very beginning
>Sheik can jump higher than Zelda
>Zelda is a slow little bitch who looks weaker and doesn't share the same physical appearance of Sheik
>this is somehow headcanon
>Always meant one damn thing
>"No, we need to change this. Mainly so i can push my agenda".
Anyone who goes back in time to kill Hitler, needs to hang around for a while. Fuck this guy.
>tfw I now have a ltop 5 of people in history I would kill
No one has yet topped Marx though.
Shiek always had her face covered. If Zelda bothered to TURN INTO A BOY she would never need to cover her face, since every single part of her would be different. But she did anyway, and thats because she was still a girl. Zelda used magic to hide her curves, change her skin and change her eye colors, MAYBE make her look more buff, but she had been training with Impa, so those muscles are most likely hers.
If the holder of the Triforce of Wisdom, making her a crazy wizard, doesn't out right change her entire appearance for a disguise, then what she did was the extent of her disguise magic.
Why is this news and why does it even matter? I'd question to mental health of Zelda if she used magic to give herself a penis instead of just stuffing a sock down there or something. Shiek even has her breasts tied down with bandages and shit.
She still has a lot of masculine features too but that's kinda to be expected when you're trying to DISGUISE YOURSELF AS A MAN
The better question is why can't Zelda do ninja shit when she isn't pretending to be a man?
You can't even explain how it contributes to the disguise. You're just being stubborn and feeding us more of your gay fan fiction. A concealed dick doesn't convince anyone that you're a guy, this is a fact.
>and it is your headcanon that thinks they originally intended Sheik to be female.
>Character is a girl
>Character puts on a disguise to pretend not to be a girl anymore
>When character drops disguise, she is girl again
>Released in 1998
No, it's fact that they intended Shiek to be female.
Zelda obviously is a competent magic user and it's clearly not beyond her ability to shapeshift her body into a different form. It doesn't make her any less of a girl, she's just using a magical disguise that makes her appear to be a man.
She's still a girl and that becomes immediately clear as soon as she removes the disguise.
Occam's Razor blows your transmagic hypothesis the fuck out:
Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected.
>assumption that Zelda needs to use magic instead of just binding chest
>assumption that because Zelda used magic to change eye-colour, she clearly must have used magic to change her biology
>assumption that Zelda would change gender when she's already fully disguised
The simplest explanation is also usually the correct one. By jumping through hoops to make a more complex theory on why Sheik is a guy despite enormous evidence to the contrary you are proving yourselves wrong
Stay mad transfags
my god people it's a fucking video game they didn't think "How can we change Zelda's model to look like a woman faking being a man" they made Sheik's model independently of Zelda's and then revealed the plot twist.
Why the fuck do people have a hard time understanding this. Because the game artists didn't LITERALLY BUILD SHEIK OFF OF ZELDAS GAME MODEL, SHE TURNED INTO A GUY?
IT WAS THE N64.
There is no way at all Sheik is ONLY Zelda in a different outfit. There is definitely, what I recon to be, magic going on in order to make the change.
So why doesn't she rip the fucking dress, or just change to Sheik or something instead of running for HER LIFE at a snails pace.
You can compare some aspects. Sheik definitely has the physique of a male.
hmm some very good points. I very much doubt those muscles are hers. Her arms look completely fucking different when she reverts to Zelda.
because as I said, they retconned it. Hence why I said with the exact same intentions as when they originally made the game.
so you are telling me if I put on a guy fawkes mask I literally become guy fawkes.
because her disguise isn't what lets her be able to do more athletic things.
yes I know that NOW she is a Female, and as I have been saying they ORIGINALLY wanted her to be a male.
the first time I saw Sheik I assumed she was a girl
>mfw Navi referred to her as a guy
I fucking hate this. Stop throwing your stupid ass social agendas into gaming. Its been a known fact that it was Zelda using magic to become sheik. This was discussed in the smallest detail back in the late 90s. As a child, even I could tell.
>definittive answer is that sheik is a woman.
>This is clearly talking about Ocarina of Time Sheik, that one being the only one who’s canon and in a Zelda game. I simply will not accept a fragment of a sentence as proof that Sheik is a woman.
dude, either accept you're wrong or just stop arguing and walk away
Asking again what's the best place to find genderbend Shiek stuff?
Or maybe it's the fact that the game was made in 1998 and it's fne to have a female look muscular in disguise, but the devs didn't think anyone would want to see a princess with buff arms while in a dress, so they made her much more feminine outside of her disguise.
You know, like actual people think.
Oh. Well that's partially deriving play styles from character design. Sheik being the fast ninja and Zelda being the magical princess. Has nothing to do with the capabilities of the sexes.
>I always loved how Nintendo inadvertently created a gender fluid (and thus a very progressive) character with Sheik.
>So why doesn't she rip the fucking dress, or just change to Sheik or something instead of running for HER LIFE at a snails pace.
Well if were making "logical" assumptions she obviously couldn't change back.
>This is clearly talking about Ocarina of Time Sheik, that one being the only one who’s canon and in a Zelda game. I simply will not accept a fragment of a sentence as proof that Sheik is a woman.
>So, what do you think? You think that this quote is going to negate this whole thing? Nah. I’m writing this to prove this quote wrong, regardless of whose mouth it’s from- unless it’s Shigeru Miyamoto. And even if so, I believe that I could make someone open-minded believe me. If not, I apologize for failing. Sheik is one of those rare things in which he/she becomes whatever you want he/she to be, as long as you can prove it, that is. So this is my story. And until someone can prove me wrong with cold hard facts, it will remain so for me, whether you join me or not.
Those of you who are arguing that Shiek is a man are the same level of stupid as this. Do you people really want to be this bad?
>originally wanted her to be a male
>gave her Zelda's voice actress instead of getting one of the male actors to do grunts
>obviously concealed her face because she looked like Zelda
Now, Sheik may or may not have a dick. But that's irrelevant. It comes down to interpretation.
We can view Sheik as a male character, portrayed by a woman. In that sense, he is male, even without a dick, because that's the act.
On the other hand, Zelda is still mentally a woman even while in disguise, even if she does have a dick.
>they retconned it.
How so? Sure Sheik was Zelda pretending to be a boy but we never see her use her "manly" Ninja jumping or running abilities in the game, she just appears, plays a harp, then disappears. Then every iteration of Shiek after OoT has been referred to as a girl.
>mfw they did that to power Sheik rule 34
>mfw Nintendo actually cares about us
Why wouldn't she change her hair color to the much more dominate brown? Why would she not make her face more masculine? Why wouldn't she have just changed herself into a Zora?
>Lord Ganon, we have yet to discover where Princess Zelda is hiding
>Have you checked if she is in disguise?
>Yes sir, weve been searching every woman in the kingdom
>And what of the men?
>Weve checked them too sir, nothing has come about yet
>Did you check their penises
>You have to check their penises too, to make sure they are actually men
>Are...are you being serious, my lord?
>I never joke about penises
>Cock-obsessed faggots on /v/ are assravaged that their little fantasy was shot down
You can't just pretend everyone and everything has dick just because your damaged brain says so, get the fuck over yourselves.