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>I'm studying video game design
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>I'm attending videogame development at an Ivy League college
After student loans, the only option is to work for EA...
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Why shouldn't you want to follow your dream? Do you really aspire to become a workdrone?
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I'm studying the art of audit ch3cking.
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I was going to study video game design but I've changed my mind and is now instead going study to become a master of science in engineering with focus on technical computer science. Did I do good?
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>>256166168

Sure anon,

It doesn't matter either way, you'll never have time or energy for vidya anyway
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>>256164581
>tfw my socially inept brother is trying to pursue a "video game design degree" at DeVry.
>tfw his mom (my step mom) encourages him (because he is actually taking some initiative for once.)
>tfw don't have the heart to tell him what a waste of time it will be, let alone it's at DeVry.
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>girl at my work studying computer games graphics
>has never played Zelda
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>>256165676
>studying video game design
>employment by anyone
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>I'm studying
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>meet somebody with a Performing Arts degree
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>I'm studying this 5
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>>256164581
>mfw people at friday night magic all study video game design
>they must all assume I do
>they all seem shocked when I say I am studying law
>implying you can't ruin your life with vidya and also attempt to study something that isn't complete shit.

I kek internally every time.
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>>256166951
>I can't get this 5
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>No college degree, fun life with shit pay.
>College degree, boring bus life, with adequate pay.

Sometimes I worry my law degree was a waste of time.
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I have a friend who's convinced all his other friends to join him in an online video game dev course accredited at AIM.

I live in Australia, which has a fuck-all video games industry. The course is giving him a $40K AUD debt to pay off for the next decade. For reference, that's 20K short of a Medicine or Law degree in Australia.

I wish I had sensible friends...
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>>256165676
>Needing structured school environment to follow your dream

Do YOU really aspire to become a workdrone?
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>>256165652
>EA
>work
Take the job, do basically nothing and enjoy the money.
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>>256165676
Let me spell it out for you, just so we can make sure that nobody tries to spin a toxic opinion about a video game degree. By and large, these degrees are worthless.

Industry powerhouses hire "talent" with multidisciplinary skills in coding and design, and tangible experience. Not a piece of paper from a mom-and-pop accredited video game special school.

These institutions are scams. The kids who fall into these scams more often than not come out of pocket and with no direction in life. At least an IT degree can set you working in a computer repair shack for the rest of your life.
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>>256167039
>2014
>College degree
>adequate pay
I have some bad news for you, Anon. The baby boomers win once again.
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>>256164581
that's a pretty legit career nowadays, grandpa
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>>256169734
>Assuming overspecialised degree = career job in the industry
How's your video game school going, son?
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>>256164581
>friend studied CG Animation
>now working in San Fran making above average money
>works in high rise surrounded by glass windows with a beautiful view of the city
>gets to finish his work in a few days and take the rest of the week off
>being tapped to work on projects for AAA video game franchises

Now with that being said, if video games aren't something you absolutely love or you're just meh about your craft and not about always bettering yourself, learning on your own, and constantly evolving - yea you're going to fucking fail in the industry.
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>>256167007

Engineerfag here, it's a laugh when people study vidya. It's a hobby not a job. Realistically you have to be top of your field to get work, most people aren't top of their field.
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>>256169734

But you don't need a degree in that. What companies care when working in game development/programming is your portfolio.

A employer doesn't give a fuck if you went to Full Sail, what they want is proof that you made vidya and actually have experience under your belt.
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>I went to college
>Oh yeah, what did you study?
>a bachelors of acting

The amount of these people that actually exist is mindblowing
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>>256170247
>A employer doesn't give a fuck if you went to Full Sail

Yeah, they do.

Don't want to rain on your guyses parade, but all STEM degrees - your place of education matters A LOT, a degree from Full sail is worth literally nothing compared to a degree from Penn or Berkley. Not even exageratting, your degree will be absolutely worthless.
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>graduated in engineering
>no problems in finding a job
>tfw I fucking hate engineering
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>>256165652
> student loans
So this is an american thing?
How much does going to university cost in America?
I'm basically studying for free.
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>doing real degree
>friend quits it degree to do vidya degree
>convinces four others to join him
>invites me to join him
>refuse
>continue receiving updates on him
>two years into degree and still nogaems
>slowly watching this trainwreck unfold

i wish i could stop this
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Maybe I'm just retarded but I always thought game design classes are for folks who already knew how to make a game and just need to learn how to spice it up, like for people who are absolutely new to the whole video game thing and haven't played a game in their entire life.
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Is this the rebirth of shitty Quentin clones

He wasn't even that good of a troll you chucklefucks, /v/ just hadn't seen any decent scale trolling in a while and it got newfags.
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>tfw a Geology major
>gain the right to make rock related puns

Though I shouldn't take it for granite.
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>>256170662
No, it's a cookie-cutter degree industry now with a substantial backing, mostly profiting from kids with naive dreams of making the next Minecraft.
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If you are actually interested in game design, don't forget to study it independently. These university courses probably entail a lot of good game design topics that actually matter when making a game. You just don't learn how to code (and thus are unable to get employed)
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>Studying software engineering because I want to make software and work on interesting shit
>80% of my class is people who want to make video games

The fact that I'm so shit at math and am barely passing while these people are cruising through is what is most infuriating.
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>>256170694
I don't care about quentin so much as threads like these have the potential to turn into /v/ - Job Counselling, which is neat.
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>>256170694
>implying quentin was wrong
>implying video game dev degrees aren't a waste of money
hheh nice one
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>>256164581
I actually just met with a college class of video game design majors.

The very first topic to come up was diversity in the videogame industry.
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Is it a good idea to study English literature?
Currently unemployed with high school IT level education, no chance for employment.
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>>256170820
As long as these threads hopefully have the effect of getting the notion that vidya degrees are a bad fucking idea into people's heads, I'm not complaining.
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>>256170807
Wut.

Software engineering has so little maths involved in it.
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>>256170807
>The fact that I'm so shit at math and am barely passing while these people are cruising through is what is most infuriating.
You know, maybe these people actually work for their degree instead of posting on 4chan
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>>256170929
It's not going to get you a better chance at employment, if that's what you're thinking.
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>>256171057
Fuck off, I have shitposting to do, I don't have time to study.
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> wanting to make vidya
Have fun being treated like shit, overworked, underpayed, and good luck to you if you want to enjoy playing games ever again
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>>256166168

Why not just do CE?
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>>256171014
What is someone, that wants to get into the industry, supposed to do then?
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>Studying a shitty degree
>Be depressed as fuck, no motivation
>Went to another country to study classical animation for a year
>Happy as fuck
>Wake up early every day to go and continue
>No bullshit subjects
>Never been this happy
>It's gonna be hell to find a job for that today
>It's the only thing that makes me go on in life

Should I just call it quits after finishing school now?
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>>256171123
You know that question "if money was not an object, what would you do? "
I want to listen to music, nothing else.
I do however like writing so I'm just wondering where that puts me
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>>256171359
>Make video games by yourself, in your spare time
>Get a degree in software engineering if it's that important to you
>Apply to jobs in video game companies with a portfolio of games you have created/interned/worked on

That's literally the only way, there is absolutely no degree that will allow you to enter the video game industry without what I just listed and SE > Video game design anyday.
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>>256171414

Why not become an author then
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>>256164581
>I'm making shitty threads on /v/
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>tfw I have no fucking idea what I want to do with my life after I finished college
>tfw currently in NEET mode
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>>256171027
I don't know mate, not this guy but I study CS, and after 2 years I had calculus 1, 2, 3, linear algebra, logics, set theory, discreet mathematics, probabilistic methods and others.
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>>256171260
That's pretty much almost every jobs though

Also just like books or TV, video game is great for delivering creator's thoughts and heart. The only thing that's stopping it to accomplish anything is because of horrible work ethnic and games die meaningless death.
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>>256171756

Does anyone remember that guy who'd post his jizz collection every year? He kept them in 2L plastic bottles. The oldest ones were a deep yellow colour
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>>256171586
Sort of want that but I don't have many places to go to.
Failed swedish so i can't get into any schools here.
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>>256171903
Computer science is not software engineering.

Computer science is directly orientated to the more mathematic side/theoretical side of software and computer engineering.

Software Engineering almost purely programming and software engineering, design, development etc.
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>>256165676
If you want to work in video games get a computer science degree you fucking idiot, video game design degrees are useless
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>>256170702
Gneiss pun, I couldn't find a single fault in it.
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Hey /v/ I'm coming out of neetdome. What's a degree I can go into that's fun and that's not stem?
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>>256171903

Do they do signals and systems in CS?

Because that shit is fucked.
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>>256169637
>At least an IT degree can set you working in a computer repair shack for the rest of your life

An IT degree can provide you with a whole variety of options and they're not just related to hardware stuff. You'd actually have more of a chance getting into gaming design/development with one of these than you would "studying video game design".
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>>256171937
you don't need to go to school to be an author, anon. i personally feel that you can't teach somebody 'good' creative writing- it's something you just can or can't do
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>>256171756
Looks like a burnt lasagna
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>Enrolled into Electrical engineering
>really dislike it, but don't want to drop out because my parents really want me to do it
>Working on a project in the lab with 5 other people
>mfw I have nothing to contribute
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>>256171368

Most people that graduate college don't find jobs suited to their degrees. They end up doing other shit.

But hey, there are people dumber than you that got well paying jobs. Just keep trying and that 1% chance of a good job will eventually come.
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>>256172427

How far in are you?
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>>256172373
No idea how to start or where to go.
Besides, I've noticed that people don't listen to those without a degree of some sort
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>>256169091
2k Australia usually has quite a few positions open, including lots of entry level ones
They make pretty decent games as well
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>CS degree
>game design class, offered for the first time
>they have to book a bigger room because so many people are attending
>publish their material on the intranet of the university
>one whole lecture was about different suspense curves
I should have taken this, it was an easy A
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>>256172427
I'm >>256170416 and it was the same for me, now I have no idea what to do and I'm thinking about studying something I actually enjoy next year.
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>>256164581
At least he's not studying Digital Media.
That is the most useless degree along with gender studies.
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>>256172218

Network security.

I work in network security and I sit on my ass for 8-10 hours a day doing next to nothing, and I get paid pretty damn well.
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>>256172239
>signals
Had something called Theory of Signals and Informations. Mostly about enthropy of signals, transinformation, signal coding and shit like that.
>systems
Yup. System calls, synchronization, file systems, memory.

They weren't really that hard though.
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>>256172218
What things do you like anon?
And what is wrong with STEM?
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>>256172427
how come you don't like it? I'm really enjoying it myself, and the challenging work makes it engaging.
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Bachelor of Journalism here.

I sincerely hope I don't end up as a shitty video game writer. Fuck, that would be embarrassing.
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>Lazy, workshy friend is studying video game degree
>He almost got rejected because the university has high entrance requirements for that course
>They did it because they get flooded with fuckwits fresh out high-school that don't realise it's hard work to make a good game
>The worthless degree is hard to get into because of oversaturation
>mfw
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>>256164581

>Mad Men reaction face

GL anon
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>>256172950
>Journalism

Dying industry. you're fucked anon.
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>>256172895
It's really hard, too much mathematics and really not something I enjoy doing anyway.

>>256172562
Second year
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>mfw someone looks down on me for being a NEET and getting autism bux, yet they're going to school for vidya design, liberal arts, art, acting, journalism, philosophy or some other stupid shit.
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>>256172998
hownewru
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>>256173309
At least Journalism is an actual industry.
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>>256173389
As if blogging could be taken seriously
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>>256173389
>Journalism is an actual industry.
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>>256164581
>tfw I did study game design
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>>256167007
>working on contract for a start up game studio as 3D artist for a couple of friends
>people at fnm outright ask for me to hook them up with some contacts so they can pitch game ideas
I'd quit magic, but watching these people get super upset over losing a game is fun.
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>>256173559
and what do you do now?
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>>256173559
He looks like that fucking wood elf from Morrowind. Forgath that loses his ring.
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>>256173452
>>256173470
News media is still prevalent in all societies. Just because you're a brainwashed STEM faggot doesn't make this not true.
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>tfw studying a bachelors in network security

W-will it be worth it?
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>tfw majoring in French
Yes, it's part of a liberal arts degree.
I'm also doing a law degree so there is a greater chance of career than most
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>>256172750
What exactly do you actually do though besides "next to nothing"? Like, what does the job entail?
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>Doing video game art degree
>Learning 3D modelling, texturing, animation skinning, lighting and rendering
>Building semi-decent portfolio
>Friend on games design degree says "when we graduate, people like you'll make the games I tell you to"
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>>256172834
I like video games. I don't like stem personally, and I know this well because high school was some high ranking stem focused place parents forced me to go to and that stuff never clicked, but I respect it.
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>>256173638

Well im currently unemployed working on my own games

I don't even want an industry job and yes I knew before hand the degree it self was worthless

>mfw people on my course thought the degree would get them a design job
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>>256173946
Lock stuff? Patrol a little?
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>tfw doing a paralegal/legal office admin degree
>not super interesting

Meh. I literally can't think of anything else I'd like to do.
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>>256173829
>>256172750
Do you just dick around on 4chan all day? If so, i'm glad I'm studying it
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>>256174008
Link your prototypes anon, I want to see what a design degree can do for you
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My computer science studies begin next week.

Did i fuck up?
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I'm getting a Science degree in Sign-Language interpretation, I like communicating so I'd thought it'd be a good fit, plus people think I'm a great person (which I'm not)
Teaching myself a few languages and my ultimate goal is to be a foreign language/American Sign Language translator.
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>>256171368
I wish I was you anon. I'm stuck in this 3rd world college taking an arts related program and 80 percent of the subjects are bullshit either because of the teachers or the subjects themselves. I still remember when I was in high school wanting to learn animation and watching them cool as fuck stick fights. I don't know anymore.
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>>256165676
>going to eletronic game colage
>you want to be poor?
>then try to be a gane designer
> you want money?
> then become a artist or a programer
> you want to graduate?
> better be good at both
Ok then
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>>256174175
It's fine. You can always change if you hate it.
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>>256173992
>friend goes into a game design degree for an ALIENWARE LAPTOP of all things
>has 2 kids, a wife and job prospects
>we live in Australia, where there is no such thing as a video game industry
his wife is going to love that laptop
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>americans with their entitlement to being rich as fuck

I hate this, I'd be happy doing what I love even if I was just getting poor pay.
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>>256173829
>mfw I'm going to start studying network administration and security this fall
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>>256174175

Dude, it all depends on how hard you work.

I have two buddies, both who studied CS. One busted his ass to learn everything inside and out, and one was a lazy shit who played vidya games all day.

Guess which one has a programming job at a solar panel company, and which one works at Burger King.
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>>256173470
How is journalism not an actually industry. I'm not dumb enough to actually study it (commerce here) but like, every city has at least five newspapers and every town has at least one, not to mention websites and news networks. In terms of useless degrees, it really ranks pretty high. Certainly higher than "english" or "video game design"
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>>256174112

not going to link anything as its all named

The course it self wasn't so bad for what I wanted which was learning the basics of content creations (3d art and animation, Frontend etc) and working with others.

All the design lectures were utter shite, Game design is common sense so you can't really teach it.
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>tfw going to uni next year but i will turn 21 in the first year

I hope im not too old
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>>256174175
Same here brah. We're all gonna make it.
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>>256174257
Only game studio in Brisbane off the top of my head is that team which made fruit ninja.
Thanks Queensland.
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>>256174430
Fucking this; simply put, the more you put into your studies, the more you will get out of it.
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>>256173946

Monitor servers on the network and resolve issues that come up. Most of the time the issues involve basic shit like monitoring free disk space to make sure they don't fall under the set parameters set by the company.

I suppose my job is technically server admin, but when they offered me the job they said it would be in network security and that's what my resume is going to say.
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>>256174462
Same, I have the same fear of being too old as well.
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>>256174462
I did the same exact thing, don't worry- aside from the occasional 'old man' jibe, there's people who were starting with me over 25

Never too old for bideojuegoes
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Thinking of getting a degree in computing security - Anyone know what it's like?

Seems like it'll be useful as fuck as well as being slightly easier than just straight-up programming.
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>>256173309
Don't you have some threads about muh wageslaves shitposting to make on /pol/
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>>256174557
>>256174257
Creative Assembly has a huge branch in australia
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>>256174462
>britbong
>miss 2 years of school for family issues
>18 years old and I just left highschool
>going to college
>2 years older than everyone else who will be 16
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I dropped out of high school at 16 for stupid rebellious reasons (as in, I study and test well I was just too young and rebellious to realize the importance of it). I am now getting a part time job to hold me through August when I can start GED prep classes then I'll be going to a community college to study computer science with the idea pf advancing in 3D animation and programming. Maybe creative writing on the side. I plan on eventually starting up some old prpjects I had with an old friend in animation while working on a video game as a side hobby. Then somewhere along the way find something that'll allow me to get sufficient money while allowing me to pursue my life goal pf traveling the world and doing dangerous adventurous shit, at which point I'd abandon all else.

Rate my life plans, and tell me if and where I'm being stupid
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>>256174070

I can't use 4chan on my work computer due to them having McAfee, but I am able to bring my own laptop in and that gets unrestricted access to the internet.

You don't know bliss until you've spent a day torrenting shit on industry-level internet.
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>>256166681
Won't you feel silly if he actually does something with it.
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>Doing well in a dual software development/IT security degree
>Haven't worked a day in my life and have nothing except for the degree to put on my resume

How fucked am I?
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>>256174764
I wish you luck.
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>he studies ethical hacking
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>>256174967
I'm in the same boat, I'm 19 and starting in 2 weeks and I've never had a job, mostly because I never needed money because I don't buy a lot of shit.
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>>256174287
>I would be happy
So you aren't happy? Well at least you have a high paying job to make up for it and prove those fat Americans wrong, right?
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I have no idea what I should go study

I'm fucked
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>>256175003
Thanks anon, already got some calls back. Went on a streak and applied at 30 different places, most of which are waiting for a follow-up tomorrow or Tuesday. One of which I missed the call for and they asked me to give my info and they'd call me back, I think I might be fucked there, what you get for helping a friend move, though with 29 other places I'm not too worried
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>>256170146
The problem is that vidya students are pretty apt to think of themselves as idea guys, when you really need a solid programming base and visual design competency.

Its also the type of thing where you really need to be a self-starter or have a really good network to get you a job.
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>>256170269
>Know a guy who went to uni to study English Literature
>Only just passed
>Now in acting school
>Was a terrible actor to begin with

How do I tell him he sucks when his head is so far up his own ass he can see light?
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>>256174967
Get an internship and you won't be so fucked.
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>>256169187
A structured school environment is actually really good for following your dream. It offers the advantages of setting aside dedicated time to study a subject from a master, and teaches valuable life skills like accountability, managing your time, being answerable to someone else, and working on a team.
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>>256175505
If you put enough effort into it you can honestly go far man, just don't doubt yourself. If you love it, do it. Don't be dumb, don't be reckless, remember to be realistic about things.
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>>256175519

I was just reading the other thread about ideas guys.

You're right. To be successful in the industry requires a lot of experience and networking. Both of which most people start off with nil. The person who gets the job is the person who is most qualified, that's going to be whoever has the best grades.

It's all well and good to be an ideas guy and pursue a career in programming, but I've seen plenty of people dispassionate about video games get the job just because they have more experience and know what they're doing.
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>Study game design
>Make my own games with some friends I went to college with
>Making more money than my friends that became engineers because they have no work experience & can't get employed by anyone
If you know the gaming industry well & now how to milk the goys, it's a pretty easy living. Of course, if you love making games then you can also do pretty well, just depends on how retarded the design of your game is.
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>>256175850
>best grades

Lel no. No job cares or looks at your resume for your GPA
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>>256170617

The ride never ends.

>have friend into vidya
>he wants to learn to make them
>ttries to learn every new system that comes along
>first java, then flash, then terrible source mods, then unity
>"its the next big thing! you wouldn't understand"
>Still made less gaems than the PS4
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>>256175975
Maybe if you're applying for McDonalds they don't.
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>>256175975

I was refering to graduating with honours, etc.

I'm not savvy with the educational-political climate of America because I'm Australian. We hold much less stock in the name of a u
niversity because most are pretty good already.
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>>256174967
>Haven't worked a day in my life and have nothing except for the degree to put on my resume

Just make a skills resume and sell yourself well, problem solved. That's all I did and I'm making over 50 grand a year.
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>>256167007
>Law
>Not complete shit
Enjoy making no money being a lacky for some firm IF you're lucky
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>>256176235
Not even if you're applying to Goldman Sachs. If you are applying there you obviously have connections or are really qualified accountant.
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>tfw phd in math
>300k starting
>any job i want
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>tfw unlike the generic /v/-faggot who's either a NEET or "studies" sth that will make him one anyway, I'm a final year med student
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>>256175913
This right here. Most of the cases of people enrolling in game design courses are idiots with zero knowledge of the industry and just wanna go work for Bethesda or some shit.

If you know what you're doing, you can still make good money from such a cookie cutter degree. You just need to do your research. Once you've got the ball rolling, you can then move on to bigger, more enjoyable projects.

Its the same for any arts/design degree.
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http://www.his.se/Utbildning/Hitta-utbildning/vara-program/Dataspelsutveckling/Dataspelsutveckling-Game-Writing/
Would you, /v/?
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>>256176445
Goldman sachs in fact requires you to graduate with high grades...
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>Thinking of joining the Navy for IT

Is this a terrible idea? I'm kinda runnin out of time and ideas.
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>>256176119
More employers don't care what language you are proficient in. It's all about being able to easily learn to languages and tools.
I'm at the point that for most non object oriented languages, you could show me some code containing most of the proper syntax and a basic statements that I could probably be getting shit done in a week.
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>Going to college

Enjoy your million dollar debt
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>>256176616
And that's why you're qualified so you don't technically need to put that shit on your resume and like all places you can get away with being a little under qualified by having friends who can pull strings for you.
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>>256176717
Not sure what country you are in, but most armies will pay for your college/university if you serve for a couple years (Usually the rate is two years of service for one year of college/university.)
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>>256176810
Jokes on you, my parents pay for my tuition and I don't take loans.
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>>256175780
These are all things that you could learn by yourself without spending an arm or a leg. But like a good goy you are sheckel bait. OY VEY GOYIM COLLEGE IS VITAL TO LIVING YOUR LIFE!
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>>256176953
American so yeah, hoping I could get a base education in the Navy and then do something neato with that.

Plus, I'm getting fucking old and I'm still in my old home town. It's getting sad.

my captcha was 420
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>>256176985
If you live outside the U.S chance are college is free, and if you live in the U.S it's easy to get scholarships and grants.
>I-I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE NOT BECAUSE I'M A LOSER BUT BECAUSE I'M N-NOT A GOOD GOY! MY JOB AT PETSMART IS REALLY PUTTING THE KIKES IN THEIR PLACE! *TIPS STAHLHELM*
Christ /pol/fags are pathetic.
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>>256164581
>there are people who want to study video game design
>not playing the damn game
>not making a fucking game
>idea guying this hard
not even once, the fedora tips again.
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>>256170465
It costs a ton. Easily thousands upon thousands of dollars for even the simplest universities. You usually have to spend months trying to scrap together some measly scholarships or hope for your parents to die and leave with a good life insurance policy it might be enough to cover 2 years worth.
Otherwise you probably have to use student loans which have ridiculous interest rates and are extremely harsh, plus they can never be removed even by bankruptcy, so a lot of people wind up in endless debt to the government before they've even gotten started in life.
Colleges are some of the biggest cancerous awful bullshit in America.
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>>256177289
Except I have my own business and make 300k a year. So yeah college is really shit tier. Chances are if you are getting your bachelors you will get minimum wage by the time you leave college. But nice try thinking your life is going in any direction other then the drain. Also if you want to get money you then have to get your masters, and that's 6 years of loans and paying tuition. On top of that that money is really shit so if you want to get your PHD that's another 4 years. So do the math poorfag, grownups are taking control of your life instead of you wasting time in a shit system.
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>>256177570
What business do you have?
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>>256177360
Are you fucking retarded?
I got a 5k grant and a subsidized load with like a 4% interest rate that doesn't even start till a year after I graduate.
Please try to ignore idiots like this, chances are he's never been to college.
>>256177570
>Except I have my own business and make 300k a year.
>Sitting on the video games board of 4chan at 11 am shitposting about Jews
Yeah, I'll totally take your word for it.
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>>256177570
>owns a business netting him over 300k
>doesn't even know the difference between "then" and "than"

Sure buddy.
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>>256177638
I own a pharmacy and some clinics in a plaza.
>>256177681
Yeah keep thinking your education will do anything. I have a lot of free time, all I have to do is go in every once in a while and make sure everything is running smoothly. But keep thinking in 2 or 3 years when you get your degree and your working at starbucks what I said.
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>>256177871
>>256177871
>Own a pharmacy
>Without a degree

lol, fuck off.
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>>256177842
epic spelling error, totally invalidates anything I said! Also not everyone on the internet or on 4chan is complete NEETS.
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>>256177360
>>256177570
I seriously hope you're just pretending to be retarded.
>I MAKE 300K A YEAR AND OWN MY OWN BUSINESS
>Shitposting on /v/ in the morning
>>256177871
You're so full of fucking shit.
Let me guess, you went for an arts degree or something, took a bunch of shitty loans and now you're butthurt you can't get a job with your useless degree?
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>>256177871
>Owns and runs a pharmacy
>Doesn't have a degree
God damn you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper.
>Also not everyone on the internet or on 4chan is complete NEETS.
Yeah but you certainly are.
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>>256177962
You don't need a degree when my parents hand money and that was their business. Now that I own it i'm pretty much set for life. You don't need a degree to understand managerial or business. That's why you're a good goy and you're in college.
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>>256177974
It's a dumb spelling error that an average middle school student would correct you on, don't try to convince people that you own a vastly profitable business when you lack basic elementary education.
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>>256178103
I bet this guy isn't even 18 yet.
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>>256178141
That's really cute since this is coming from a NEET.
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>was studying a radio production degree (i fucking know) at university.
>gave up knowing it was a shit subject and enjoyed the 'free' money for 2 years while everyone else was on an equal pointless course.

>Drop out head back home and randomly apply for job at SEGA as ive always been segafag

>get my dream job as a QA for now with high chance of promotion in a year or so fucking good money aswell.

>everyone else I know either works in a pub or customer service bullshit hating their work

>only person from uni and back home whos actually done something


feels awesome
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>>256178173
>thinking you need a degree to run an already profitable business
>he actually thinks that most people who have businesses give a shit about college or advanced education
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>>256177962
As an owner, all he has to do is hire a pharmacist. From what I've seen, they're not even a very well paid or group.
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I was good in scool, i can c++. Photoshop, and even build games in my free time, but i work in something like a Roadwork.
I do things like pflaster, and cut threes and thinks like this, and get something like 1000 € in a month.

I think i just kill myself. Something like this what you do would be my dreamjob.
I just stopped to do anything, and dont give a fuck about my life, i have stopped to try.
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>>256178349
You're the dumbest person I've seen a while man, thanks for the laughs.
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>>256178410
Exactly, my wife is a pharmacist which is why it works, we basically do nothing, in virtue of her being a pharmacist, and we just make money. So it works out, I have a great life.
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>>256178534
Dude, no one buys your bullshit.
Just stop.
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>>256178268

Tell them to localize Yakuza 5 the faggots
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>>256178468
How old are you? Really, not many people I know actually think that advanced education is actually worth anything. Doesn't matter to me, keep thinking college is a magic path to becoming successful.
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You stupid fags study game design, and still you just make games that dont make fun.
They teach you wrong.
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>>256178410
Pharmacists are extremely well paid, what third world shithole do you live in? And no to the other guy thats lying saying you can own a pharmacy that distributes medicine and drugs to the public without a degree, it just does not happen in the U.S. I'll never understand some peoples need to lie to others over the internet.
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>>256178576
You just want to believe its bullshit because if I was actually lying then you would know how retarded college actually is, but don't feel bad man, that bachelors degree will come in handy in getting some waiter positions.
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>>256178618
Please stop, for the love of God my sides can't take anymore.
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>>256178738
>>256178695
>still thinks you need a degree to run a business
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>>256178738
>tfw 300k a year making uneducated /v/irgin on the internet ready to tell other anons how wrong they are about college at the drop of a fedora

ur just jealous
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>tfw forever writer and ideas guy

Actually, how the hell does a writer get a job for some vidya company?
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>Want to be a teacher
>not really for the money but want to teach kids good things
>but live in the US where education continues to go down the shitter
>Other English related options not very viable either
>Have no real desire for anything else
I guess its grunt work until i die
at least I have time for vidya
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Ok STEM, IT, yadda yadda yadda, those are generally the best.

Now what I want to know is what you should NOT study.
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>>256176985
>>256177360
>>256177570
>>256177871
>>256178103
>>256178349
>>256178534
>>256178618
>>256178808
Stop.
It's blatantly obvious you're some 17 year old regurgitating things you see on /pol/, you don't make 300k a year, you don't known how to run a business, you're extremely transparent. Please for the love of God stop before I have an aneurysm.
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>tfw writing fantasy novels
I'm the lowest of scum and I know it.
I want to write shit like Camus, Joyce, Foster Wallace and so on, but I just can't.
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>>256178927
who to gookland and become the stereotypical weaboo english teacher
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>>256178987
Arts
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>tfw as a idiotic 16 year old I thought game design would be the best choice
>tfw I dropped out a year and a half later and changed course just in time to get more free education

Holy fuck I was so close to fucking that up.
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>>256178993
Says the 20 year old who just got into college and is hoping that what I'm saying isn't true. Son I have some bad news for you, people become more successful than you will ever be without college. It happens all the time. P
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>>256178927
the demand for teachers is really high in sweden, and the market isnt crowded since no one wants to deal with mini-sandniggers.
just suggesting some options.
i heard from an old classmate who lives near our old highschool who also has a contact who goes there, they are literally throwing shit, and we graduated 2 years ago now
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>not studying video game design
plebs, all of you
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>>256179053
That's typically something to do over a couple years and then they phase you out unless you make connections. It's not meant to be a long term job
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>>256178853
pfffshh jokes on u kid i make 1 mil a day sitting on my ass and running nintendo, i only need 2 go in and check in once a year and its ez becuse my dad owned nintendo
collage is for JEWS and good goys NO1 CARES ABOUT COLLAGE
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>>256179125
sick projecting bro
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>>256179125
Is that what tell yourself as flip burgers at McDonalds?
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>>256179264
I know I'm hitting a nerve, keep trying to take the high ground because you're in "college". Adults will be taking control of their life. Let me know when you start your minimum wage job because you though a bachelors would mean something.
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>>256179328
>Is that what tell yourself as flip burgers at McDonalds?
*that what you tell yourself as you flip burgers, I need some sleep.
>inb4 you jump down my throat for it.
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>>256169637
>implying any degree isn't about networking
>implying college only real meaning is to jump start your own projects

the only exceptions to this are math heavy degrees like math,physics and engineering, and biology degrees.

if you're going to college thinking you will learn anything you're doing it wrong.
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>>256179407
ok
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>>256179445
>>256179328
I wouldn't know I have never had a minimum wage job.
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>tfw doing a degree in the subject I truly enjoy
feels good
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>>256179407
>Hey, you're a fat nerd who has no friends.
>If you deny it, that means I'm right

What is this, kindergarten?
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>>256179407
Did DeVry University deny your application or something?
>>256179524
I doubt you've had a job period, you're probably 16 tops.
>Inb4 HA, I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED.
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>>256179473
>b-b-but I got a bachelors in [some worthless degree], aren't I supposed to making money yet?

You kids funny.
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>Be me
>Studied English and History
>People laughed
>Got a masters in education
>Landed a job at a private, catholic girls school.

I know I'm lucky, but I'm glad I studied something I enjoyed. During the first year of my bachelor's degree I actually went to an Engineering information session because the constant put downs were getting to me. I'm glad I stuck with it though.
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>>256178808
so that's it for you, owning a business is your top goal in life?, it saddens me that this is what most people that go to college (or don't) think.

learn to love science and knowledge for what it gives back to your human race you stupid monkey.
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>>256179620
thx for sharing
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>>256179634
>private catholic girls school
>lucky

huh. private school teachers get paid shit too
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>>256179407

And I don't suppose you have any way to back up your claims other than "If you don't believe me you're just being an autist"?
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>>256179634
Do you fug your students?
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>>256178927
Teaching ain't terrible honestly. Good benefits and a lot of free time are both the biggest perks. The pay does sort of suck and you need to genuinely enjoy the job for it to be worth it.

I have a bunch of friends becoming teachers and they all seem to dig it so far.
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>>256179647
You must be underage and thinking that you will ever contribute anything to society so I'll humor you. I live my life, I read philosophy from time to time, but I don't generally care about any of that. I don't care about anything but living well and taking care of my wife. Once you grow up and stop watching Carl Sagan then you will understand that you aren't smart enough to change anything.
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>tfw bad at math
>tfw average at english
>tfw bad at everything else
>tfw the only thing which I'm good at is art

I've already dug my grave, either I git real good or suicide.
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>>256170929
Meant to reply to >>256179634
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>>256176572
im in the same boat anon.
And i'm miserable. run while you still can.
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>>256179865
This is really funny, it's like watching a child emulate what he thinks an adult is supposed to be like.
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>>256179752
It's common sense really, my brother has his master's in business and he can't even land an entry job as a burger flipper because they say he's overqualified. The job market is shit right now so unless you have connections you are literally fucked.
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>Went to a tech school because I don't like college

I make a little more then most of my friends do, so whatever. Once they get a degree if they actually get jobs they'll be making more then me, but I don't really care about money that much. Just enough to be comfy.
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>HEY GUYS I HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE IN STUFF
All the neckbeards stand up
>LOL ENJOY YOUR NO JOBS/NO MONEY WHAT A WASTE OF TIME YOU STUPID GOY POL TOLD ME ALL ABOUT HOW THE JEWS WANT YOU TO WASTE MILLIONS GOING TO COLLEGE, A PIECE OF PAPER WONT GET YOU A JOB, I DIDNT GO TO COLLEGE AND I DROPPED IN MY CV TO A HOSPITAL ASKING IF I CAN BE A DOCTOR, I THINK IM IN LOL

Fucking NEETS
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>>256179879
At least you can make mad dosh from furry requests. I'm only good at video games.
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>>256179879

If you want to make games, being good at art is an excellent start.

You can make shit with Game Maker or Multimedia Fusion or what have you, they won't be technically all that impressive but so long as your art is juicy nobody's going to mind that much.
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>>256179939
Nice projecting, either way have fun with that degree.
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>>256179748
Do we?

>>256179757
No.
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>>256180018
I TOTALLY OWN A BUSINESS AND MAKE 300K A YEAR GUYS JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT
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>>256179757
Is that you GTO?
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>Starting 3D and Animation study next week
>Always been really talented at drawing and animation
I'm ok with this
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>>256179865
I wrote some publications in undergrad under the professor i was doing research with. Depends where you go, but you really can make your mark in science!
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>>256179998
What do you do?
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If you are I wizard and have no aspiration to get a gf nor children, what is a salary which you can live comfortably?
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>>256179985

No, I meant about your qualifications and how you apparently make 300k a year. Can you prove that?
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>>256180018
College is pretty worthless, unless you get into med school or pharmacy school you are basically wasting your time.
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>>256180059
>He doesn't even know how to use projecting in the proper context
Confirmed for under 18.
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>>256174740
Not as bad as me anon.

>Finish school with great GCSEs
>IT course at college
>Goes well for the first few weeks, then it starts getting really, really shit. Nothing like what I'd thought it would be
>Tried to get into sixform, and couldn't because there weren't any places left
>Settle on the IT course, then get kicked out because I was ill for a week, and the secretary never passed the message on
>Do nothing but play World of Warcraft for a year
>Apply for Games design course (yes, really)
>Once again, starts off okay, then it becomes shit, although I decided to finish these two years
>Applied for three A levels after those two years
>I'm now 20 years old, and will be studying History, English language and politics with a bunch of 16 year olds

The worse thing is, even if I decided to go to university, which I probably will considering my parents have money to burn, I'll be 22.
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>>256180072
Then what's the point of it being all girls?
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>>256180072
I went to a private catholic boys school and a few of my teachers complained about their pay being WORSE then what it would be at a public school. This in the U.S. by the way, but maybe its different for each location. (Mine was in Hawai'i)

>>256180205
Well he did say he was uneducated
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>>256180159
So have I, I've done research in organic chem for beta lactams for anti cancer research, doesn't mean I will change a god damn thing. Just because you get a publication doesn't mean jack shit.
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>>256180196
>I've never been to college but I know it's worthless.
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>>256179865
so you prefer to live your life for the sole purpose of reproduction.

let me put it this way, would you prefer to have your kid be a successful business man or a successful scientist/engineer?

inb4 he can be both, that's the whole fucking point why would you want to only know about bussiness management when you can also know about science AND manage a bussiness.

but w/e i know you will be happy with your wife and you will live a life of nothingness.

also you don't read philosophy if you don't care about it or don't acknowledge it's importance, stop lying, sophie's world doesn't count faggot
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>be me
>study urban planning
>get piss taken out of my course for 4 years
>jokedegree.jpg
>tfw land a great, well-paid planning job before graduating
>tfw 100% of my course have jobs before graduation
>Law/Economics grads remain unemployed

In Europe, it's university's best kept secret.
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>>256180205
Well you are projecting your own insecurities onto me, thinking that somehow you are an adult because you went to college. It's cute though.
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>Tfw "Leaving Cert"
Its the irish exam we get at the end of "high school" which basically decides if we can get into college or not, its bullshit
>For one college you need a fucking grade B or higher in French and Irish FUCKING IRISH A DEAD LANGUAGE THAT NO ONE HERE SPEAKS to get into a "Computer science" course
>A higher level B in french and irish
>For computer science
>And for maths all you need is an ordinary level (easy as fuck) D (which is a pass on the dot)

Fuck the irish education system
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>introductions at the beginning of college courses
>"a-a-and I'm st-studying v-video g-game d-design. M=muh influences are Sh-Shigerru Meeyamowtoh."
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>>256180410
>Well you are projecting your own insecurities onto me
What?
God damn are you like 12 or something?
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>>256180365
I just don't really care, my life isn't nothingness because I have a family and people who care about me. That's all that matters, you aren't a genius, you aren't a prodigy who will change things in the world. Stop pretending like you are great.
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>>256179634
>be me
WHO ELSE WOULD YOU BE DAMMIT
I hate repeating myself over this shit.
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>Do something you enjoy!
>You can be anything you want to be!

Why do parents sell these lies?
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>>256180410
No he isn't, at all.
And even if he was that's not what projecting means.
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>>256180196
Really? Who do you think a chemical plant will hire? Some guy who likes chemistry or some guy who got an ABET acredited chemical engineering degree with 3.5 gpa
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>>256180289
>Hawaii

Not him but there's the problem. Work tourists traps if you want money in Hawaii, those. $8 milk gallons add up fast
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Amerifags, why don't your parents save money for college? The first thing you do when you get a kid is start saving for college. How is making your child a bank slave a better option?
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>>256178890
http://getinmedia.com/articles/game-careers/write-now-narrative-designer-chris-avellone
Chris has some neat tips.
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>>256180603
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.
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>>256180451
Jesus you whiny shit.

Who gives a fucking shit. If you can't learn irish, you are clearly too fucking retard to be doing an Engineering degree.
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>>256180162

Pharmacy Technician. I might go to college to become a pharmacist one day, but it will cost mad dosh in the hope it will get me mad dosh, so not sure.

The real problem is I do not like college or academics. It kinda pisses me off when I graduated top 5% of my high school just because I showed up and turned in assignments. I honestly believe many poor people choose their own fates in life even though that's mean to say, I've become jaded since I see the absolute laziness and how the kids back in high school WANTED to be stupid. They didn't even try. It almost offends me they throw away what life opportunities they have.
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>>256180196
>med school
>implying doctors make money

hahaha
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>>256180520
Do you honestly expect anyone the believe a word you say man? Come on, you're sitting her in the morning sperging out AGAINST college, yet you expect anyone to believe you're a SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNER WITH A WIFE.
Please stop, you're making me feel embarrassed for you.
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>>256180568
>focus on studying hard , don't worry about a job until you get your degree!

I really really wish I wasn't that gullible and that my parents didn't say this.
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>>256180643
>3.5 gpa
3.5 is shit faggot, why can't you pull a 4.0? Advanced o chem too hard? That job is shit, I'm saying it's only worth if you get into med school or pharmacy school.
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>>256180748
But the point is even If I get an A in maths and engineering subjects and I dont get that B in irish they wont let me in, its retarded
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>>256180707
Ok, you googled "Projection".
That's not what he was doing at all.
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>>256180787
I don't really care, I have free time, please don't be mad.
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>>256180289
>(Mine was in Hawai'i)
This is why you're a dumbass.

Private schools = privately funded. Private schools on the mainland are much better funded.

The teacher pay myth is so often repeated by idiots who will never go to college in the first life, just trying to put down teachers who made them feel stupid. Consider the fact a teachers pay is for working half the year, and is usually quoted from public school wages. Teaching a private year round school starts you off around 65k, and by the time you pull tenure you're looking at somewhere around 80-90k.
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>>256180520

so were you actually planning on answering >>256180193 or what
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>>256180885
>Y-you're not an adult
>I am because I go to college!!, you're wrong and you can't be successful without college!!

Sure he wasn't
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But that guys is right, you don't need college to succeed. Got two uncles who are supervisors in some construction companies and they make about 250k a year.

I am a lead atm working a gov job and I am making 58/hr. Sure, educations makes life easier but it is not the only way to have a good life.
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>>256180289
I'm not from the US.

>>256180123
I'm autistic enough to think I'm kind of cool like GTO, they probably just think I'm retarded though.

>>256180528
I know it pisses people off, I just like saying it.
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>>256180915
>Supposed business owner with a family to take care of and a business to manage
>I-I just have free time, dun be mad.
This is just sad man, no one is taking what you say seriously, you're making yourself look like more and more of an idiot.
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>>256179531
>start university in a biology program because I really liked Jaques Cousteau
>find out I really love chemistry
>spend no life it to because good at it because I'm dumb as shit
>all that time and enthusiasm gets me a nice paid internship for the rest of my time at university
>spend all day doing research now

Work hard on the things you love guys, you don't have to be exceptionally smart for STEM just diligent and love what you do.
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>>256181003
Yup but these people are pretty ingrained in believing that college will benefit them.
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>>256180520
geniuses do not advance science, this is the most fucked up misconception about science, it's the collective knowledge of A LOT of people working on something that makes it go forward.

take a look at this faggot for example:
>>256180302

he discredits his own research saying it doesn't change anything but i bet you somebody is going to read his paper and make a breakthrough from it or just publish another "meaningless" publication and somebody else is going to make the breakthrough.

my point is that education is the only noble way to be a better human being, not having a family, every fucking animal knows how to do that, intelligence and consciousness about intelligence is what makes us superior, and yet you're favoring the hunt over the planning.
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>>256181056
>I just like saying it
what
No seriously, what.
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>>256181003
ah forgot to say, we all only got a HS diploma. No further education.
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>>256181002
Except that's not what he said, at all.
In fact, you just projected your own insecurities onto his statement, bravo.
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>>256181086
I have a wife, no kids, and it's sunday, I don't have work today. What is so hard about this?
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>>256180651
>Amerifags, why don't your parents save money for college?
because irresponsibilty
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>>256164581
>I'm studying video game design

That's your problem

You don't need to study to be an idea guy, you'll be rolling in the money too
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>>256180974
At the school I'm at the senior teachers in leadership roles are making over 100k.
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>>256180765
Pharmacists do make mad dosh, but I hear being a technician gets you a comfy amount too and one of the best jobs you don't need a degree for besides trades.
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>>256180825
It was an example. Im not even a chem major. What's wrong with 3.5? I know 1 person who had a 4.0 after senior year and he's a psychology major
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>>256180825
Not true at all. Oil industry jobs for fresh college grads with those degrees pay upwards of $80,000-$100,000/year. They will still hire people with GPAs as low as 2.3 and stuff if they have other desirable qualities.
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>>256181194
We had been talking about this for a while, if you followed the convo you would know this.
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>>256181205
Whatever man, keep making yourself look stupid I guess.
Are you going to talk about how your dad works for Nintendo next?
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>>256181175
I like typing
>be me
at the start of a greentext story.
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>>256177986
But Anon, in other countries they can get degrees in arts and not have to pay for it.

It was my dream ever since I was a kid to go to cooking school and become a chef, but when I got to high school I realized I would be $40k in debt to get a job starting out making minimum wage or somewhere around there. I had to give up my dream and my happiness. Do you really want to live in a world where everyone has to work a job/career of something they're not passionate about and they're not happy?
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How do i get a job where I dont have to talk to people and/or put myself into thousands of dollars into debt?
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>>256181345
But why?
It makes no sense.
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>>256181270
Nigger I got a 4.0 in biology and organic chem majors. Fuck the other majors science is what counts, 4.0 is what gets you into med school. Also a good mkat but the GPA really helps.
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>>256181342
Son it's ok that you are a NEET. One day your life will turn around.
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>>256181310
You claimed he was projecting when he said.
>This is really funny, it's like watching a child emulate what he thinks an adult is supposed to be like.
Which he wasn't, then you claimed that by saying that, he was saying
>Y-you're not an adult
>I am because I go to college!!, you're wrong and you can't be successful without college!!
Which he also wasn't, you're projecting your own insecurities onto his statements and taking offense to them, while claiming he's the one projecting.
It's really funny, you must not be very bright.
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>>256181356
Culinary arts is pretty nice, just work hard to end up at a prestigious resteraunt instead of Olive Garden. Chefs are sort of like teachers, lots of work for little recognition and modest pay but some effort can really take you places
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>>256181253

Yes, that's the reason why I did it. Also because it has good job security, a growing job market (increasing average age + baby boomers are all starting to get really old), and since I live in Southwest US get to stay inside in air conditioning. I carefully planned my career before I came into it. I would recommend it to anyone out there who is a bit more cerebral and enjoys helping people.
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>>256181601
That wasn't the beginning of the conversation anon. I don't have these insecurities because I am not a NEET. Please stop making yourself look retarded.
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>>256181416
Nice gonna make some dosh.
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>>256181514
Ok Mr.Big Shot business owner with a wife shitposting on a videogames forum in the morning, totally gonna take your word for it.
>BUT I JUST GOT FREE TYME
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>>256181236
I've heard it said that you essentially get a 10k bump every five years. I moved to a city where the private schools start out at 90k, which is typically above average.
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>>256181396
I just find it funny. It's like saying a diamond dozen and shit like that.
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>>256180765
That sounds pretty nice. I'm in college and almost went to pharmacy school (made interview stage) before switching to something else. If I could redo it, I don't think I would have gone the higher education route. I agree with the stuff you said.
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>>256181656
Yes but how, where do you even begin? I don't have anyone to teach me the things I can't learn on my own, no one to guide me or mentor me, and I don't know where to find such a person or place outside of cooking school.
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>>256181729
You think having your own business means I am a work slave? Keep being mad.
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>>256181774
Isnt it dime a dozen
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>>256181774
Well it ain't funny. It sounds stupid.
No offense.
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>>256164581
Why not just make your own game then get hired by someone?

Who wouldn't hire Notch
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>>256172950
If anything they wouldn't want to hire you since you might have a semblance of "work ethics" and "not taking the doshdick".
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>>256174462
Until a few years ago, this was the norm in Germany. You're a Honorary Aryan now, anon.
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>not picking up a trade
>all that ez money you are missing out on
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>>256174462
I started in Architectural Engineering and I recall seeing multiple people that were obviously retired attending the Architectural History lectures.
Note that i live in a civilized country where the yearly tuition fee is less than $1000
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>>256181696
It doesn't matter that that wasn't the beginning of the conversation, you were claiming that statement was evidence of him "projecting" which he wasn't. Furthermore, you have no proof that the person who said that to you was the person you had been arguing, so, not only have you projected your insecurities onto his statement, you've projected your anger from another altercation onto a potentially unrelated person as well.
I think we've cracked the case here, the verdict here is that you're a fucking retard.
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>>256181878
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
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>>256181836
>lol i own a business but i dont gotta manage it or run it or nothin
>u think ownin a business means i gotta work LOL
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>>256174462
Was still going to university when I was 25

No one could tell unless they asked since I still look 18
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>>256181948
If I can't do what I'm passionate about because it pays too little and I'd go in debt trying to reach my goals/dream, then why bother. Everyone always laughs at people who go after what they are passionate about, but I envy people like that who can purposefully stifle the comfort of their lives to go after doing something they love. I wish I was that brave.
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>>256181153
I have 4 publications in O chem and I think it's worthless. I am probably smarter than you and the other anon who had experience in science. I don't delude myself into thinking it will change anything. People only do it to get good resumes, I could give a fuck about bettering humanity.
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>>256181729
>not knowing about the education bubble.
Its not /pol/ faggots, its /biz/, and even /pol/ is smarter than this.

>IM GOING TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT ONLY HAS VALUE WHEN OTHER DON'T POSSESS IT
>THIS IS A GREAT IDEA!!!
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>I'm getting a degree in philosophy/History

If you like that shit, study it on your own time like me.
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>>256181890
All good.

>>256181742
I'm not sure how the school I'm at works, but all the other teachers seem rich as fuck. I just started here a few months ago.
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>people want to make games
>taking shitty overspecialization courses like Game Design
>not taking Comp Sci so you can actually fucking make the games while having more general knowledge of computers to have a the option of getting a job in the biggest industry on Earth when (yes when) you can't make it into the vidya industry
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>>256182190
Why did you even bring up /pol/?
No one was even talking about /pol/ you fucking idiot.
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>>256182006
Except he was the person I was talking too because he has kept saying the same shit over and over again. He was projecting his bullshit from the first reply I just never called him out on it because I don't really care.

>fursona reaction image

Yeah no faggot go away with that gay shit, adults are talking.
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>>256167007

Another Law fag here,

I try to stay humble but I always feel bad for people doing game design courses. Some of them pretty cool but they lack any ambition in aiming to find a career.

Law is also riddled with fuck wits like this as well though. People have not strive in finding experience or looking at opportunities.

People with no fucking common sense or career aims are the cancer of current universities. Also Libtards.
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>>256182128
I'm not that guy, but when you own a business you make your own hours generally. Now he may be very well talking out of his ass, because I grew up with my parents owning their own business and they had to spend more time there than anyone else. But they also had the flexibility to be able to pick me up from school, go on field trips with me, etc, too.
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an acquaintance told me last week that he was thinking of studying Liberal Arts, because that's "the future" and he seemed really optimistic about it, I didn't want to hurt his feelings and I don't like to argue with people I don't know well enough, so I didn't say anything.
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>>256182128
It's sunday again anon, it's closed. How stupid are you?
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>>256181903
That's actually what a lot of people do. Make a shitty mobile game or indie PC game as a demonstration of your programming and development skills, then show it to companies you want to work for. Most college game development programs will make you do that at some point as well.
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>>256182313
misquoted, but you're still wrong.
>>256177289
>>256174678
>>256178993
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>>256182331
You do realize that there's more than one person who thinks you're an idiot right?
You get fucking rekt, all you could do as a retort is go.
>U-UH I KNOW IT WUZ HIM, BCUZ UH, I KNOW!
And attack my reaction image, how pathetic.
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>tfw I will never be successful
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>>256181948
i dont even know where to start in learning a trade
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> tfw white male and not disabled
> 0 grants, 1 weak scholarship
Sucks being white sometimes

> working in tech support for an isp
> about to start working for a degree in advanced networking & telecommunications
I should be pretty good
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>>256182523
>Being so butthurt you quote old ass posts.
POLIDF pls go
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>>256180135
Good work anon, I tried animation as a side hobby for shits and giggles, 2D is hard as fuck. Good luck with 3D.
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>>256182537
It doesn't really matter to me anon, I have money so I don't really give a shit, you guys are the one that thinks college is actually worth something which is truly the fools way of thinking. Either way your probably a NEET so I can only laugh at whatever your trying to prove.
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>>256164581

>I'm bitter and mad that I was too old to study it and now I'll act like it's not a real course to save face
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>>256170929

I mean, writing skills are important- I do study English lit. myself but I'm also using it in conjunction with tutoring/education. I mean, what are you expecting to do with it? You have to be creative in how you apply the things you get from studying Eng. lit (critical thinking, analyzing written works, knowledge on how to write well and to accomplish a specific purpose, etc etc) because it doesn't necessarily lead to any one specific job.

Same with any humanities degree really though. Get in touch with the professors and network, get in touch with alumni who studied what you're studying. Put the work in and you'll find something, but its not easy. I think that's what people forget about humanities degrees.
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>>256182358
Obviously you can be more flexible, but typically the business owners are the ones there more than anyone. This kid is obviously some 17 year old throwing back up things he's had force fed to him.
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>>256182796
It's sunday, it's closed, why would I be there if it's not open?
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Get into a Ph.D program in physics, chemistry, or materials science. Then you can live comfortably while working on interesting problems with interesting people, and be guaranteed a good salary leaving.
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>>256182564

I'll give you a piece of advice.

Go to any walmart or whatever. Realize not only does that store hire a bunch of workers and supervisors but-
>People have to deliver and load/unload the goods for the stores
>All the refrigerators and air conditioning must be maintained by somebody with those skills
>The lighting must be set and maintained by somebody

This is just a few small examples, but if you look you'll realize there are jobs everywhere. Most people just mindless repeat the mantra of 'DOCTOR, SCIENTIST, LAWYER!!!' or whatever like they are little kids on career day. Instead focus on the real middle level jobs everywhere around you.
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>>256182640
Im sorry you spent thousands of dollars on something totally worthless, I really am. Here, let me wipe them tears for you.
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>>256182697
>I gots muny and I owns a business! Just take muh word for it u dumb neet! collage is for retards!
>Can't even use the correct form of you're
Yeah I'm sure you're totally telling the truth, enjoy your "money" and your "wife".
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>>256173829
>>256174372
I fucking hate networking. So many frankenstein'd systems made from varying degrees of outdated shit. Plus it's fucking boring.
How does it feel to be a robot?
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>>256182796
But i mean come on, he has a pharmacy and some clinics. He can just sit back and relax
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>tfw Chemistry major

So, what the fuck? I've always had a hard time believing anyone that had said "STEM is a trap!". If the arts are shit for work and STEM is shit for work, what isn't? It just sounds like the people that complain about no work are the ones who went to college to get their degree with their sub 2.5 gpa and can't get hired. No shit, if you're a dumb ass with a degree that would normally put you in a position of importance no one is going to hire you.
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>>256176615
Ok how many Skövde students are in this thread right now?
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>>256182297
Once you get tenure you should see a noticeable pay increase. Then it's up from there.
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>>256182972
Another spelling mistake! Oh no lets talk semantics and try to straw man and invalidate anything he was saying! Please NEET
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>>256182994
Yeah man he has his '"pharmacy" and his "clinics" in the "plaza".
And it's Sunday! Duh, so he has free time to shitpost on 4chan!
I will never get how people can be this stupid.
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this "I own a business" anon is probably a daddy's money faggot
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>>256182947
How easy is it to get into a trade like that and how well does it pay off? I really wouldn't mind getting into something like that if it could pay me well enough to live comfortably and have a family.

Just thinking about when my humanities major eventually fails me.
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>>256174462

>Turning 22 next week and just finished my first year.

Don't worry about it. Like it was said earlier, people take jabs at the age but you find you'll have a lot more luck with pulling girls and be a lot maturer compared to other guys around you.

I have barely any game in pulling but even I found it relatively easy to fuck girls around 18-19 because the other guys are still inexperienced as fuck.
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>>256182947
Except if you are smart enough you won't have to be a wage slave. Fuck working at wal mart, and fuck being a good goy.
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After reading this thread I can say no wonder you lot spend all day bitching here. You sperg out over nothing.
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>Going to college

It's probably the most stupid thing you can do. I know a bunch of people who are dumb doing a degree. It means nothing today

I dropped out of highschool and I'm probably smarter than 75% of them
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>>256183090
Is your favourite type of literature colouring books?
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I'm starting my 2d/3d animation, graphic design, 3d modelling, and some game shit studies. After that, I will try to get a job at animation (could be animating for games, though), and if I'm still interested, I'll get a video game design and development degree. If not, I'll just work as an animator, and work on my games as a hobby.

Am I doing good?
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>>256183263
>I dropped out of highschool and I'm probably smarter than 75% of them
bait
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>>256182947
>DOCTOR, SCIENTIST, LAWYER!!!
All things your teachers will push on you night and day, why? Because its good business. these are the professions with the highest college requirements.

Meanwhile, learning trades, like welding, is an awesome idea, but you don't need college for it, so that's bad for teachers, so they tell you thats its blue collar work, and that its settling for less, despite being in critical demand right now.

Try asking your third grade teacher if they remember you. Ask them a few questions to see if they aren't bullshiting. They don't give a fuck about you, and just regurgitate whatevers good for business.
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>>256164581
>tfw my major had a lot of overlapping classes with the vidya majors
>mfw having to deal with the biggest autists in all of Dallas
>mfw one skinny DYEL faggot makes an announcement before class to stop by a convention because the voice of Fluttershy will be there and it'll be super cool, I promise guise

I fucking hate nerds.
Keep your shitty taste to yourselves, autists.
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>Live with gf's mother
>Soon to be, lazy as fuck, brother-in-law is starting college to be a psychology major
>Actually thinks he's going to get a job with it
>Nigger has only kept a job for a month at the longest
>Has their mother go get and fill out all his applications
>Literally does nothing all day besides play an occasional game, post in circle-jerk pony threads, or sleep 18 hours a day.
>His mother and my girlfriend think he's actually got a future besides loans his mother is going to have to pay back for him

I ain't buyin' it
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>>256183263
0/10 bait.
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>>256180289
I read an article that Hawaii's cost of living was tough on teachers and made them leave and work somewhere else in the US
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>>256183263
you have to be a fucking idiot to think people go to college to "get smarter"

it's the piece of paper you pay for that matters
clearly you aren't lying about being a drop out
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>tfw studying to be a doctor
>tfw my dream is to open a smoothie shack on the beach in Japan
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>>256183178

Hey man, don't knock your Humanities major just yet. Alot of jobs just require you to have a piece of paper from college. I personally wouldn't have gone with that but whatever.

As for the trades, I can't say. I belong to a single trade and know next to nothing about the others. I do know that the money you'll be making from most trades can be quite high, in the 6 figure range even if you are pro/own your own trade business. You should just take those jobs into consideration is all I'm saying, people just don't realize that those sorts of positions exist everywhere because they need to.
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>>256183016

4chan isn't really the best place to talk about this type of stuff. The people who are fucked are the ones who make zero effort to make connections with professors and utilize networking opportunities.For what it's worth, my sister was a chem major with a 3.4 and she's in a PhD program and is on the road to decent money.
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>>256183415
Wtf did you not have shop class in highschool or middleschool?

>Obviously the kindergarten teachers are in kahoots with the universities!

this guy
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>>256171368
Start a YouTube channel and be an animator brah
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>All these people studying what their parents want them to study
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>>256183593

what are you going to name your smoothie shack
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>>256183650
You're a good nigga, keep it real.
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>>256183016
People just want to feel like they made the right choice. It's why "consoles wars" are thing.
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>>256183263
>It's probably the most stupid thing you can do. I know a bunch of people who are dumb doing a degree. It means nothing today

That is why we have worthless degrees and everyone going to college, because we're told everyone is supposed to go
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>>256183860
What if your parents wanted you to be a professional nude model?
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>>256183415

I agree with you but not because there is a conspiracy to get kids to go to college. They do it because they've been told it's a good field and it's difficult to get in, and unlike what you might believe most teachers tell that to kids because they want the kids to be successful.
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Guys, I'm scared.

I have no idea what I want to do with my life. I don't have anything I really want to go for, and I don't want to force myself to go for it only to learn that I really don't want to do it like 2 years in. I honestly don't know if I should just go into the military or something. I really don't want to, but at least it will be a job. I really feel like it's my only option left aside from working at McDonald's for the rest of my life. I just don't know what to do. I'm 18 and I graduated high school a couple months ago. I seriously have no idea what to do, and I am genuinely scared.
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>>256183860
Dad wanted me to be a computer scientist

Mom wanted me to be a doctor

Grandpa wanted me to be aerospace engineer

Their faces when i became a biomedical engineer
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>>256184038

What was your favorite class in High School?
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>>256184038
>I have no idea what I want to do with my life. I don't have anything I really want to go for, and I don't want to force myself to go for it only to learn that I really don't want to do it like 2 years in.
man i have no idea what the hell i should go study
i will probably just go ahead and end my life so i don't have to pick, why does life have to be so complicated
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>>256183895
Bob's Super Sugoi Smoothie Shack
And I'll play Bob Marley music all day erry day
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>>256172427
Meh, I dropped out of two year's worth of law shit because I started to loathe it one day.
Gonna try something similar to computer science next semester, hopefully, I'll hate it less.
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>>256184038
I was in the same boat as you, I had no idea what the fuck to do.
Think about things you're good at, your skillset. You don't want to do something you don't have a passion for.
I have a passion for interacting with people and communicating and I stumbled upon the American Sign Language program at the College near me, was great because interpreters for the deaf are in high demand and you're essentially an asset anywhere you'd want to work.
Just take your time and don't rush into anything.
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>>256176868
this guys right, im an engineering guy and it's just about how good you are at convincing people you are good at what you do.
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>>256184161

Like none. I really only kept up with it enough to make sure I didn't fail.

I've taken an interest in weightlifting though, and I used to enjoy drawing as a kid, but I really don't see any good jobs from those two.
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>I'm making a VN about genderless people finding love
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>have friend in video game design school wtfever its called
>get guest speakers from other studios
>get her artwork posted for other studios
>meets voice actors and other artists
>now gets paid somewhere $50k a year doing concept artwork for vidya studios

I wish I got paid doing stuff i liked
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>>256181781
>tfw my sister is starting pharm.

After reading this I think shed be better off just becoming a pharm tech. I think that's what she's looking for. She doesn't like school and hasn't as far back as I can remember, yet she wants to be there longer by doing a 4+ year program. I don't get her logic sometimes. But,I'll bring this up to her.
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>>256169545
You're so wrong.

EA is corporate clusterfuck. In other words: you'll end up working your ass off (more than 10 hours per day) without actually getting any work done.
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>>256164581
I actually compiled a shitload of data for my cousin and saved him from this fate, he was pissed at me at first. But now that he's started engineering school, last time I heard from him he thanked me.
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>>256176445
Nah my dad used to work there. They look you up on linkedin and ask you for interviews
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>majored in Psychology
>basically worthless, stepping stone degree
>need a more advanced degree/license to be a therapist/professor
>go for Masters in counseling
>got experience working in partial hospitalization, IOP, and inpatient settings
>Doctoral program in Counseling Psych begins fall 2015

Pay isn't going to be spectacular, but I like what I'm doing. The amount of sexual abuse among heavy substance users/addicts is scary. Listening to some of the shit some of these people went through helps me put my issues into perspective.
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>>256184438
I'm not the guy, but what if there is nothing in my life I have passion for?
I really liked drawing when I was younger, but I fucking suck and I'm not creative at all anymore.
>take your time
what if I don't have time?
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>>256183860
My parents are hippies and the only thing they ever said to me concerning studies and careers was
>You can do whatever you want to do and be whatever you want to be

Fuck parents, just give me some guidance I have no fucking idea here. I wish I had strict Asian parents instead or something.
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>>256184810
You always have time, look at program and the classes that it takes, look at ones that interest you. Try to balance something you have a passion for with something that's practical as well. You just need to find it man, it's there waiting for you.
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>>256184810
>but what if there is nothing in my life I have passion for?
Then you're fucked.

>what if I don't have time?
Then you can find some stupid job and take your time.
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>>256184810
Become a hobo
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>>256184038
Just try out different shit. I didn't know what the fuck I wanted to do, started out with law and that basically got me nowhere because sometime later, I'd fucking hate helping people with their problems. I'm also not really that creative when it comes to real life situations, so I'd probably be be bad ad it anyway.
Fuck, just think of what you like to do. I really love fixing computer related shit, be it hardware or software. Then, consider the rest of your talents. I'm personally pretty bad with shit like art or actually building shit, so stuff like visual computing or electrical engineering and shit similar to it isn't anything for me. Which pretty much leaves me with 1-2 courses I can take at my uni.
And if they're shit? Well, so what. Should you feel you're too old at that point, you could always get a job somewhere. You wouldn't live the most lucrative life, but fuck, it's enough to come by. I have friends who dropped out of HS and still managed to get their shit together somehow, so it's not fucking impossible.
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>>256184038
I'm 24 and I've been a NEET for over 8 years now and I still have no idea what I want to do. You still have plenty of time to figure it out, at 18 I barely even knew who I was yet.
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>>256184925
>Fuck parents, just give me some guidance I have no fucking idea here.

Basically: you want to stay stupid for as long as possible.
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>>256185136
No I just have no idea what to do with my life, there is nothing I enjoy, nothing I am passionate about. I have no skills and I'm not good at anything. I'd prefer it if my parents forced me to do something so at least I was doing anything or had some semblance of an idea of what to do with my life, even if it was "forced" on me.
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>those casuals to afraid to make decision
Think about it as about Ironman mode in EU.

No savestates. No online guides. One playthrough.

What you're doing:
>not doing anything, hoping everything will be all right

What you should be doing:
>carefully pick decisions
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>>256185346
>I'd prefer it if my parents forced me to do something so at least I was doing anything
You can force yourself.
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>>256185346
Faggot I doubt you're as much as a blank slate as you claim to be. If you're not passionate about something, go find something to be passionate about.

If you're incapable of that, get your depression diagnosed.
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>>256183726
My shop class was cut, and considering that over 50% of them will have jobs in those types of professions, it shouldn't be that way, but that's an argument for another day.

>>256184037
>there is [no] a conspiracy to get kids to go to college

Just like there's no conspiracy to sell games by bloating review scores? Stop using the word conspiracy in such a loaded way.

Have you ever wondered the logic behind the state using tax money to teach english to people who ONLY speak english?
>But grammar!

That doesn't explain why the subject is compulsory. Education is one of the most corrupt businesses around.
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>studying computer science in a shit hole country
>know how to (sort of) make games in unity
>be better than most people

not sure whether I should be happy or not
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>>256183424
Well, there's a lot of jobs in which psychology is usefull, but your brother-in-law is way too lazy to actually get a job
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>tfw wanted to learn to make vidya
>tfw my Father talked sense into me and said I should study networking
>tfw my college has vendor units from Cisco for all those extra qualifications straight out of college
>tfw its all [spoilers]free[/spoilers]
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>dual enrolled
>took classes for general AA
>need none of them because STEM prorgam I'm going into only requires prereqs
>wasted time

>Program I'm going into starts in Fall
>Arrange classes so I can start next fall (2015)
>They switch it to Spring so now I'll have to wait a year and a half before I can start getting my degree
>wasted time

>constantly get compared to son of parents friends, who I've known since we were literal babbies. Cool dude but
>he's film major
>dad acts like I'm fucking up everything because "He wants to retire in 3 years"

What should I do with the free semester I literally have nothing planned for? I could get a job working a farm for free board and food in another country to travel. Or I could look for an internship, which sounds smarter.

Can any engineering bros here tell me it gets better?
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>>256185346
Agreeing with >>256185870 sounds like clinical depressing mate check that shit out.
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>>256174462
same boat, after college didn't want to go to uni so went to Thailand and taught engrish for a few years, back now doing some generic IT course.
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>>256186865

Not really. At the Bachelors level, there isn't much you can do with one. If he knows with certainty that graduate school is his next plan, then he can benefit from the foundational courses. But after reading the other anon's post, the guy is probably like 95% of Psych majors who picked it because it either "seemed cool" or because they had no clue about what they want to do with their lives.
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>>256170416
>graduated in medicine
>it's fucking awful

I should've been a vet or something.
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I will be studying video game design.

I just don't want to work yet, I'm waiting until my parents die (they're old as fuck) so I can kill myself.
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What's wrong with that? People die all the time, they need replacements.
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>>256188056
>dying before fulfilling developing your dream game

what are you doing
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>>256183860
>"I want to be an artist!"
>"No son, get a degree in business, I need you by my side."
>"Okay."
>And everything was good, forever.

Dads are based.
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what do game design classes even cover? shit like Counter Strike or Mario or what?
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>>256188345
Precisely that.
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>>256185075
8 years? what have you been doing m8
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>>256186530
>That doesn't explain why the subject is compulsory. Education is one of the most corrupt businesses around.

Oh no, I fully agree with that. I hate the fact to go to college you have to take lib classes like womyns studies and shit. I'm just saying that teachers that aren't in college, and neither are college professors all in kahoots to steal people's money.
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>mfw I'm studying bionics mainly because of the Sarif ending of DX:HR
And they say video games are a waste of time
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>>256183860
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>>256185075
>8 years

You shouldn't be giving advice to anyone.
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>>256167007
>Law
Enjoy being bored to tears, meanwhile i'm making a great living working for the army and the soon the NYPD, military benefits are fucking great.
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>>256188859
Enjoy being poor.
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>>256188417
do they teach you how to code games or just discuss movement and level design? how could you possibly teach something as obtuse as video games
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>I'm a STEM major
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>>256188589
posting on /v/ probably
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>>256188953
>Implying
The army i'll admit has shit pay but they give you housing, food and a bunch of other free shit necessary to make a living, the rooms here are hella sweet too, so when you're off duty you can just spent all night playing video games with your comrades if you want.
NYPD will give you a little above 40 thousand a year, and that's the first rank, top that off with the military benefits they give you and it's practically paradise when it comes to a financial situation, especially if you plan on living on your own.
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>>256189291
>mfw someone near me didn't study humanities
>mfw someone near me can only speak one language
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>>256167007
>law
>isn't complete shit
LEL
E
L
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>>256170416
>>256170416
>graduated in Accounting
>no problem finding a job
>tfw I fucking hate accounting
God I wish I could just kill those fucking piece of shit numbers
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>>256187093
>>256185870
>clinical depression
Nigga just get over it and get a job, shit
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>PhD in math
>any job I want
>300k starting
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>>256164581

>tfw studying physics
>tfw learning videogames in spare time
>tfw doing 2d shitty plataformers on LÖVE while getting fucked in the ass by physics course
>mfw
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>>256189291
what is a STEM major anon?
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>joined the navy
>get paid going to the base for about 6 hours , sit on my ass somedays or even go to the gym and run a bit , go home and shower then spend the rest of the day on /v/ or /a/

I will say this
you don't get this luxury until maybe 4 months in from my experience.

the only sad part is I have the option of going to school here but I don't know what I want to study for maybe even after service is done. I want to do software or anything of that sort at least to keep me close to vidya as possible

any help /v/?
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>tfw want to start a webcomic but can't draw for shit
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>>256190515
A future fast food worker.
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>>256190656
You too huh. I read the sticky on /ic/ and shat myself. There's so much to drawing it's fucking unbelievable.

We'll get through it though mang.
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>>256190656
That didn't stop most webcomics.
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>tfw went to the army for a year
>tfw you're a firefighter now
>love my job and get paid 1500 euros after taxes
I have little free time though and sometimes I get called in the middle of the night
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>Studying Computer Science
>First semester freshman year had like 50+ kids in every Computing 1 lecture
>By the end of sophomore year there were maybe 20-ish per lecture
I thought Engineering was supposed to be the degree where everyone jumped ship
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>>256190435
You must be in a nice physics course because my Physics major friend is barely given enough free time to consider suicide.
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>>256190786
>>256190786
No I mean I literally can't draw. I swear to god my skills haven't improved one bit since kindergarten
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I'm starting at the end of the month.
Wish me good luck.
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>>256190893
This shit happens practically everywhere. Maybe a bit less in fields where getting a place is tough as shit already, but it still does happen.
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>>256191035
you'll make it anon
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>tfw studying how to put together skeletons
N-necessary evil right guys?
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>>256183054
I'm really close on getting in.
Andra utvalet.
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>>256189291
>be me, 19
>mcdonalds trainer
>notice my patience getting shorter with customers
>managers gives me explicit instructions not to hand out cups until food, regardless of situation
>do exactly that
>customer calls and complains that I didn't give her her cup
>I get written up
>threatened with suspension and potential termination
>put in my two week notice minutes after that

Truly, I am free.
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>>256183421

Could be worse I guess...

I have a stereotypical overweight, unmotivated nerd in my major(graphic design) and he spends 99% of his time talking about ANIMUZOMGPOWERLEVELZ and once did an image of his sister claiming, "we're raising her to be a nerd girl I GAVE HER THE SHARINGUN."
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>>256190996

well, I wouldn't say I'm doing nice.

but I get to learn computer stuff, so I'm good
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>that feel when born rich but suffer from actual Assburgers and your parents hide in behind your bigger brother
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>>256191035
>can draw pretty well
>can't color worth a damn
>only capable of greyscale pencil&paper, nothing digital
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>>256191035
Practice makes perfect. My sister suddenly started drawing a ton in highschool and it was crazy how fast she improved. She's an artist for some advertising company now.
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>>256172615
>suspense curves
What are these suspense curves?
All google came up with were tumblrcurves
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>>256190656
Never stopped anyone before
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>>256191647
Nigga if you can do greyscale all you need to do is read up on colour relationships and shit.
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>>256174462
>started uni when I was 17
feels wasteful mann
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>studying game design

Worst mistake I've ever made in my life and I couldn't even finish it thanks to my conscription starting
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>>256190539
You don't need to get a college degree to be successful, hell maybe some employers will give you extra benefits for serving in the army, why not become a police officer or fireman? Hell maybe you should just stay in the army.

>>256190782
Nah, I read the sticky and I was hardly intimidated, drawing isn't hard, just repetitive, there's just a shit ton of grinding and studying your fundamentals, but basically it goes like this:
>Pick one of the good books to start out with, hampton, vlippu, Loomis, Burne, etc
>Fucking study it, learn the fundamentals over and over, keep practicing
>Once you think you got the hang of it, study the next book that covers the same topic
>Rince and repeat until you studied them all and think you're ready to move on, then do the same thing over and over
>Always ask for critiques, redlines and good advice on /ic/ and other communities

Honestly, the hardest part about drawing isn't trying to learn it, it's bringing yourself to learn it, procrastination is a bitch. But the end result years down the road will always leave you thinking it was worth it.
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Any philosophy majors here??
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>tfw professional musician playing in an orchestra
The pay is shit but I love my job
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>>256191916
>started uni when I was 17
>everyone was way older than me
>sixth semester onward only had people who were 30+

Had to lie about my age to make friends.
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>>256172816
Not the person you replied to, but commonly something completely different is meant by signals and systems, more along the lines of the stuff needed for control systems. Heavy on complex analysis.

I'm studying EE with a minor in CS and here EE get's signals and systems (quite a crucial part) while CS can take an elective for 1 small course on it that is very dumbed down, which is done for the purpose of a second elective on image recognition.
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>>256192287
What instrument do you play?
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>>256190656
>take a bunch of writing classes during school
>have amazing penmanship and excellent vocabulary
>highly skilled with lots of potential
>can't come up with a single fucking idea for a book, memoir, or any other worthwhile piece of literature
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>>256192151
I hear it's great for law school
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>>256192472
Clarinet
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