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http://nintendoeverything.com/report-details-supposed-turmoil-within-nintendo-management/#more-168330

>article claims that there’s a shared recognition of Iwata being the culprit among management.
>strong desire to bring games/franchises like Mario to smartphones
>Iwata is strongly vetoing the idea. Iwata reiterates that “Nintendo’s strength is in unified development of game hardware and software”
>stubbornly rejects the “net” (seems to reference how smartphones don’t use physical media since they download games)
>fixates over “game consoles” – perhaps in light of his pride as a former developer.
>Another insider quote shared by Business Journal claims that there’s cultural friction based on how Iwata comes from outside the company (maybe given his origins at HAL Laboratory?).
>He continues to be involved with software development even after becoming president and there is a feeling of helplessness among “native” Nintendo executives.
>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.

Whose side would you be on /v/?

Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?
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Iwata's because gaming on phones is the cancer slowly killing video games and it's just all microtransactions
>CEO wants money
>Iwata wants Nintendo to stick to their guns and not sell out like everyone else
>HURR HE'S TEH BAD GUY, NOT LIKE ANYONE CARES ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ANYMORE
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>>256053220
Truly, we are in dark times if he does get the boot.
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>>256052991
Shareholder generally dont know shit about how a company operates and just wants the stocks to increase.
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Whatever Iwata is doing, he's clearly killing the company.
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>>256052991
>He continues to be involved with software development even after becoming president

how is this bad, he's an amazing programer

fuck you executives
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>>256052991
The fuckers just need to do a Pokémon for smartphones, selling shit like master balls and accesories and they will do insane profits.
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>>256052991
Iwata invented casual gaming and subsequently mobile gaming.
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>>256053521
One of the last comments says there are Nintendo CEOs who don't like his involvement with software development after becoming President, so it's not just shareholders
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>>256053773
It's probably because it makes them look bad in comparision as the employes see that at least someone who orders them knows what the fuck he's doing.
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>>256053742
Naw, he just popularized a series of tech demos which helped to get the boost they need to sell their last gen console incredibly well.

MKW helped ensure that it would sell well until the end of its lifespan.
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>>256053986
No, it's because being micromanaged is a shitty work situation, but no fucking autistic neckbeard without work experience is going to know that.
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>>256052991
Iwata, the hero saving gaming
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>>256052991
>>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.

So why did Iwata's apporval rating improved?

Why did they allow Iwata to return to office?

Don't they want to stop this and prevent Iwata from making a new console?
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>>256054583
Because the rumor is fake?
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lets say they kick out iwata, what the fuck are they going to do?

you think they are gonna say "oh boy /v/ wants another f-zero and old school games, we should do that"

they are going to give you super mario iOS and pokemon iOS with micro transactions and even worse f-zero iOS

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
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>>256054817
the last installment of f-zero sold so poorly that they would probably just abandon the franchise all together.
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>>256053742
Casual gaming and moble gaming was invented by Gunpei Yokoi
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>>256054684
>Because the rumor is fake?

I'm still confused where this source comes, and confused on why Iwata apporval rating improved.
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Why do you want Nintendo focus on consoles?

Consoles are dying
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>>256054817

If Iwata is removed, then they'll have a clean field to do whatever they want, starting with porting older Nintendo games to iOS and Android. They will do mad profit from people who doesn't know how to emulate.

Bussinesswise, if the rumors are true, removing Iwata is the right choice.
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Iwata's. It's not even a question.

>>256055598
Oh god...
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Time and again Iwata was the difference between a major Nintendo title being complete unreleasable shit or being another one of the greatest games of all time. He swooped in and saved EarthBound by reprogrammnig the whole damn thing. He took the prototype of Pokemon Gold & Silver and shrunk it so that they could cram all of Kanto in there.

Yamaguchi chose this man over his own son because the dude was a badass businessman who knew what was best for his company. I bet this is all bullshit, and I also bet that anyone who actually works at NOJ sucks Iwata's dick like they rightfully should.
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>>256053521

WHAT

you mean the people who use their money to buy shares from the PUBLIC COMPANY want the company value to increase instead o dropping and losing billions every year?

HOW DARE THEY!!!!!11111
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>>256055591

Everyone can claim they got the info from "sources" but in reality they are just made up for clicks because it doesn't add why Iwata rating improved. Or Nintendo is lying about the rating or the webite made things up.
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>>256053741
that'd be disgusting
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>Fire Iwata for short term mobile profit
>In five years Nintendo will be aimless
>In ten years, bankrupt
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>>256054817

better than nintendo crashing and burning worse than the dreamcast and the gamecube.

the fucking GAMECUBE is kicking the wii U`s ass.

THINK ABOUT THAT
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>>256052991
The Yamauchi's son was a total hack

The Iwata's approval rating is fine

This is bullshit.
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>>256056253
times are different, there were no smartphones and other kind of shit that stole customers
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>>256052991
>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.


Dear God NO
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I think Nintendo has the software talent to really push the quality of mobile gaming if they ever go that way. I hope some kind of hardware comes along with the deal, though. I hate forced touch controls.
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Iwata's side

Nintendo's charm will die off without him
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>>256055598
Consoles aren't dying, but Nintendo's hardware is falling behind. They're at risk of becoming even more isolated from the rest of the industry which isn't a good thing unless they can make enough system selling games by themselves.
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Fuck bending over for CEO's and their push to kill video games to appeal to retards.

Based Iwata's. Forever.
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>>256052991
>retards still think there's money to be made in mobile gaming.
Yeah, because we all know how much money Capcom/Squeenix are rolling in right?
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>still no source on this "rumor"
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>>256056195

nintendo had 9 billion on their war chest after the wii became a hit. it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U. 3 billion burned by iwata in less than 3 years.

at this rate, nintendo won`t last to 2020. so, from your own admission, they would last longer following the mobile profit.
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>>256052991
>Whose side would you be on
The side that refuses to become mobile phone sellouts
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>>256052991
sounds like some buttblasted employees to me that someone got hired that actually gives a fuck
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nintendos big strength is hording all their own ips.

spread it around and they become sega.
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>>256056495
If they went mobile chances are that most of their force would leave for other companies though.
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>yfw Iwata has a "car accident" this October
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clearly Nintendo should keep pandering to /v/ and losing money instead of actually changing anything
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>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U
Nice lie.
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>>256055760
>They will do mad profit from people who doesn't know how to emulate.

It's not going to be that simple. They can't get people paid upfront for the emualtors, and have to bait those casuals into spending mony

Nintendo will need some seirous marketing and resarch to get people throw dollars at Nintendo. Putting games on mobile won't instantly make you profits.

>>256056090
Iwata's apporval ratings are public source, you can't lie about things like that.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847130
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>>256054223
you are really fucking stupid
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>>256053742
>>256053741
>>256055997
>>256055760
>>256055598
Reminder that we have faggots like this posting on /v/ regularly.

The mobile gaymer cancer is spreading fast. How long before vidya dies to these underage b&s and normalfags?
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>>256052991
>Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?
Iwata is the CEO. What are you talking about?
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>>256055591
>confused on why Iwata apporval rating improved.

he invented he was sick, dodged the investor meeting not to get roasted, and got a tiny but of approval due to sympathy.

it`s the oldest trick in the book when a company is having a meeting while in the shitter.
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>>256056652
is that time of the day again, when you post bullshit to shitpost?
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>>256052991
>source is a non academic moonrunes journal article
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>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U
No it fucking hasn't. And they did post losses last year, but they also bought a building and hired a fuck ton of people. Get your facts straight.
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>>256052991
>stubbornly rejects the “net” (seems to reference how smartphones don’t use physical media since they download games)
So is this why there's no Nintendo account system?
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>>256055997
Because short term returns are always better than sustained success, of course. Why would you want to make a brand that can last decades when you can get a quick buck NOW.
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How long until the constant bitching from Smartphone pieces of shits get to Nintendo?
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Iwata is a shit producer and CEO. It represents everything wrong with Nintendo nowdays. I would definitely support the son of the man who thought about giving us good games was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.
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>>256056728
It doesn't have to be a total abandonment of other platforms. Can you imagine if they just had one team, like intelligent systems make a mobile game? I think people would eat it up.
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>>256052991
So what I'm getting from this is that Iwata is the only authority at nintendo that actually cares about video games. Is that right?
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>>256057179

There is a Nintendo account system, the NNID(Nintendo Network ID).

Infact Iwata said they're treating the NNID as it's own platform to coexist between consoles, handhelds and even the QoL devices whatever it ends up being.
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man, that article doesn't even TRY to sound feasible; it's like reading something from The Sun
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>>256057362
Oh shut the fuck up, pleb.

Don't pretend like you know of anything that goes on other than what your stupid ass sees on the surface.
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>>256057367
I want to play Crashmo on my phone.
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>>256052991
fresh off the presses
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Mobile gaming = shovelware for normalfags
Wii = shovelware for normalfags

Why does /v/ love one but hate the other?
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>>256057367
It's slippery slope those. The media and industry wants Nintendo to go third party in general.

Sony/Microsoft can get away with it because they fucking giants, and the media can't fuck with them.
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It would be more profitable to expand Nintendo's IPs to shit like smartphones.

At the same time, that shit is literally the cancer killing video games, and anyone that actually WANTS to play shit on phones already knows how to. So fuck that.

So go Iwata. Yeah, it won't make as much money, but hey, standing for your principles always costs something.
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>>256057362
>the man who thought about giving us good games was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.
you definitely have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
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>tfw I actually invested in Nintendo
>this faggot is making me and my investor peers bleed money
he has to go
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If this is true I might actually like Iwata.
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>>256057590
It's a hot topic, of course people want to talk about it.
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>>256055591
>ANYMORE
Does anyone even read? This is not about stockholder, but some guys in the management that want iwata gone
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>>256057367
Stop trying to ruin great developers

Where do you normalfaggots come from? Seriously, fuck smartphone gaymers.
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>>256052991
>fixates over “game consoles” – perhaps in light of his pride as a former developer.
>Focusing on what made Nintendo big instead of saturated mobile gaming is a bad thing now.

I....what? How is this bad?
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>>256057484
No, what I meant was digital purchases being tied to the actual console instead of the account.

I shouldn't have to keep myself from bringing my 3DS anywhere and risk losing all 15+ games I bought for good.
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Remind me again who the fuck makes so much on mobile gaming? It's not Crapcom or Squenix.
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>>256057610
>Going on omegle
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Literally the bigeest benefit to having Nintendo games on the iOS would be to get the word and experience out for Nintendo games.

People in high school and some in college are too self-conscious to carry around 3DS's. They all have iPhones or iPods, and as a result, Nintendo could reach out to a lot more people, potentially luring them into buying a real, actually functioning console.

I'm on Iwata's side, I'd be completely fine for Nintendo to stay first-party system-exclusive. However I would think that there are a number of benefits for moving to iOS. So long as the quality of the games do not diminish significantly, I'd be down for it.

tl;dr I'm with Iwata, but I can see why they want to move to iOS and I'm fine with it as long as they don't screw it up.
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>>256052991
>Iwata was just re-elected president
This article is full of shit stop giving it pageviews
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>>256057805
This thread is not videogames and belongs to /biz/
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>>256057712
Please die.
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>>256057367
If Nintendo IPs go 3rd party, even just for smartphones, Nintendo will lose their last faithful fans and the rest of their divisions will eventually die.
Square and Capcom already showed that the smartphone market is saturated and not that easy to make money out of any more.
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>>256057712
>implying you have money
>implying you're not a NEET lying on 4chan for whatever reason
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>>256057913
King, I suppose. And maybe Zynga, but even Zynga is falling apart these days.
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>>256057741
this specific thing is probably not but he has done this before. in fact, he bought most of the nintendo stock so the investors couldnt force them to go mobile. theres a faggot higher in the thread saying iwata lost 3 billion. that money went towards the stocks and buying more buildings
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>>256055957
>>256053691
if he's a great developer you put him in charge of that and someone else to run the business side of things
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>>256053521
Some proof for your statement:

www.gonintendo.com/s/155527-rude-shareholder-tells-iwata-that-games-are-a-waste-asks-why-wii-fit-wasn-t-sent-to-quake-victims
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>>256057610
So what? A normal person that probably isn't into video games thinks a game she played at her friends house is fun? Big fucking deal.
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>>256052991
Assuming any of this is true, of course I'd take Iwata's side. Somebody has to remain dedicated to video games and jt might as well be Nintendo. Honestly I could see it paying off in the long run after Microsoft and Sony start going after the retarded smart phone and tablet audience, as that would leave Nintendo as some sort of niche market filler for people who want actual games.
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>>256057590
You know they ban for posts like this, right?
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>>256057956
It concerns vidya platforms and what Nintendo games are on, so yeah it kind of is. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not vidya.
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>>256052991
Would smartphones even make them that much money?
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This thread made me realize how many jew smartphone shills we have here.
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>>256057986
>Nintendo will lose their last faithful fans and the rest of their divisions will eventually die

You mean hoards of manchildren and soccer mums? Nintendo could stand to lose these morons and target a larger market.
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>>256056916
Assblasted much?
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iwata isn't in a good place

The wiiu and 3ds both had meh launches that trailed of fast. The 3ds managed to come back but that isn't what the investors remember, they don't want someone who has to safe a product that got fucked up they want a good one in the first place. If WiiU sales pick up he may be in an okay place but otherwise he is boned
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>>256058015
>projecting this hard
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>Being a high-up in a video game company and making decisions based on integrity and not what makes you the most money
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Any day now
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>>256053220

How would smart phone Mario games impact big console titles?
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>>256058015
>for whatever reason
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Oh good god. It's finally over, nintendo can finally die now. It kinda makes me happy.
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>>256057362
>was his main objetive and not jew people with sequels, rehashes and useless gimmicks.

You seriously think if Nintendo goes Third party and Mobile they won't just be living up their nostalgia, and their previous success for the next decade?

Do people serioulsy think they won't become ...
>>256054817

It's good idea for a business standpoint to put some egg into mobile, but it's not going pretty for fags who have such high opinions of Nintendo like /v/ does.
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>>256058197
I'm not the one calling people autistic neckbeards just because I'm upset about my living situation.
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>>256058109
Not if they are defending Nintendo. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a mod/janitor who made the post.
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>rumors
>journos
>forgot that half of /v/ is full of nintendoomsayers and anti-Nintendo nigglets
>last year was full of "Iwata Fired" "Drop the WiiU. bring in the S.P. PC console" and "Third-partyntendo" circlejerl
let's get the show on the road, then
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>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U.

Nintendo hasn't even lost much on the WiiU, and most of the little they have lost are actually investments

The company isn't going anywhere
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>>256052991
>fire iwata
>nintendo games are now on mobile
a vote against iwata is a vote against vidya
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Nintendo needs to ditch the conventional console and just switch to portables only.

Make a portable with a cradle that lets you play games on your tv. It would sell like hotcakes and would unify console and portable.
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>>256057610
That You-guy is a fucking faggot, goddamn. I almost feel sorry for him.
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So let me get this.

You people that hate and despise mobile gaming want a CEO that despise mobile gaming as well to go, leaving the huge possibility that the next CEO will force nintendo to do mobile games (and only god knows what other cancerous decisions he will make).

Really?
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>>256058241
It's not even that, it's just straight up lying just to lie like a dumb faggot.
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>>256058371
The majority of /v/ are Nintendo fanboys, though.
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If Nintendo made mobile games, it would be like accepting defeat. Most of their well known developers would probably move to other companies and Miyamoto would probably retire.

All passion for making games would be gone and all work would be going towards pleasing the investors. Which means that Nintendo would become a soulless company with a bunch of generic "salary men" working for them.

And of course when the mobile fad ended, Nintendo would die with it.
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>>256057863
Smartphone gaming sucks right now. Both the software and the interfaces. So I'm still a huge console fag. But it won't be that way forever. I don't think anyone is as well positioned to inject actual quality into that industry as nintendo is. From a selfish perspective, I just want to see them find ways to make money, and keep paying those geniuses in Kyoto to make games.
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>>256058092
Jesus fucking Christ. What the hell is wrong with that douchebag?! And WHO CARES about the reason he bought stocks??

I... God damn it.
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>>256058162
>Leaving your faithful fans and buyers behind, for a nonexistance userbase that hasn't been prove give you money.

That's the exact dumb gambles that give you DmC.
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>>256058312
>You seriously think if Nintendo goes Third party and Mobile they won't just be living up their nostalgia, and their previous success for the next decade?

Nostalgia is what Nindy have been banking on for years now. It's pretty much all they have. Why do you think there are so many Mario games?
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>>256057712

>Investors

The cancer killing the vidya industry and every other industry on this planet

>Guys we have 2% of your company
>Give us dividend or we will fuck you up
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>>256058583
>WHO CARES
Nintendo cares.
Stock holders have more say than autistic NEETs.
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I'm on Iwata's side. Fuck the boards of directors and all that cancer. All I care about is video games, and they sabotage them in favor of profit.
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On a business view, CEOs are absolutely right
But I love video games too much to not be on Iwata's side
Why is it so wrong to be right ;_;
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>>256058475
>leaving the huge possibility that the next CEO will force nintendo to do mobile games

[citation needed]

Won't happen, sorry smartphone gaymer.
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>>256055957
source
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>shareholders who are only in the business because video games are big are telling a video game company what to do when they have no idea about video games nor do they care about them
>Iwata doesn't want to do it

Anybody not on Iwata's side is a fucking retard.
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>>256058240
If Mario, Metroid and Zelda go to smartphones, those brands will be destroyed. The most known phone game is a autistic, mindless, piggon-throwing fest = that's what smartphone users want
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>>256058686
>By the way, the reason I own Nintendo stock is because the name is nice, it’s in Kyoto and it was listed in the year of my birth.
>By the way

Nobody asked. That guy was just saying shit for no good reason.
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>>256058236
>forgetting Iwata got promoted again
>people don't realized roster-fags and battlefags got so pissed at the MK8 roster and battle gameplay, they didn't buy the game.
don't be blind it's all coming to together
>Megaman in smash
>not Ridley in smash
>>256049352
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>>256058802
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>source: A faggot who barely knows japanese on Neogaf

For fuck sakes
http://biz-journal.jp/i/2014/08/post_5585_entry.html
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>>256057610
>people who don't play games have casual taste and this is apparently a big deal

go get 'em champ
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>>256058608
Anon do you not understand that Nintendo NEEDS to start doing SOMETHING? The Wii U is hemorrhaging money and over the next few years the Xbox 1 and PS4 are only going to get more and more games and more and more users.
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>>256057975
>>256058015
>>256058674
Give me a reason I shouldn't be upset that he's losing my money for his stubborn attitude. Nintendo moving in mobile platforms will boost their profits. It's branching out, not changing course. I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money.
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>>256058895
>Iwata saved Earthbound

Fuck anyone who doesn't like Iwata.
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>managers who oppose Iwata would want Yamauchi’s first son to become Nintendo’s president.

lel nepotism
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>>256058109
>>256058345

The Nintendo boogeyman fear on /v/ is fantastic.
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>Iwata's face when mobile gaming crashes and burns due to the sheer number of devs in the market

It's already happening to Zynga.
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>>256058994
Smartphones are not the way to go though. Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically, and with a standard controller (such as the Wii U Pro).
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>>256058932
> source: Neogaf
That explains everything. They had multiple threads about firing Iwata in the past, they have a huge hateboner for him. Ironic that most Iwata haters there don't even own nintendo consoles in the first place.
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>>256057712
Lets forget the Wii and DS real quick huh?
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>>256059135
>Zynga

How fucked are they now?
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>>256052991
Iwatas side, because really, Nintendo will go under after making a mint on roms for smartphones
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>>256059192
Well Neogaf is Sony central.
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>>256054959
>sold over a million copies
>sold poorly
Squeenix go to bed
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How to we get these CEOs to shut their out of touch mouths the fuck up?

What retard still thinks smartphones are the future of vidya?
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>>256059115
>The Nintendo boogeyman fear on /v/ is fantastic.

It isn't a boogeyman retard. You have to be new here if you aren't aware of the strong Nintendo fanboy presence. Over the next week count the number of Nintendo threads.
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>>256059045
Be a smart investor next time.
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>>256059201
Yeah, that's cool. But I'd rather keep making more money, not lose it.
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>>256059045
Yeah, and how long will those profits last, if they make any at all?
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>>256059151
That's dumb. The market is barely big enough to sustain two completely fucking identical products, why would adding a third help anything?
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>>256059045
did it work for Sega?
did it work for Squeenix?
did it work for Capcom?
>BUTIFNINTYGOESTHIRDPARTYEVERYTHINGWILLGOFINE!
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>>256057913
Kim Kardashian
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>>256059045
>Nintendo moving in mobile platforms will boost their profits.

Yeah, like zynga?
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>>256059237
They're so fucked that it's not even funny, the bubble burst so hard.
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>>256059237

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2373295-valuation-why-zyngas-stock-is-worth-less-than-2
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>>256058371
>is ok when those rumors are microsoft or sony shitposting guys

Victim complex sure works fine here
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>>256059151
You mean like they did with GC?
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>>256059151
>Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically, and with a standard controller (such as the Wii U Pro).

They won't, though. You know it, I know it, fanboys know it, and then you've got idiots in denial such as this: >>256059328
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>>256059115
Fuck off, faggot. The first post isn't even applicable.
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>>256052991

>Iwata's side or the CEOs of Nintendo's side?

Whatever side kills the Wii series games and gives us back our classics.

More Metroid Starfox and FZero.
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>>256059045
no it won't. why would people play nintendo phone games when they can/already have dump/dumped their money into more epopular games, like candy crush?
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>>256057683
>literally
just stop using that word you stupid faggot. It means the exact opposite of the way you used it.
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Iwata's side of course. I don't even own a Nintendo console except for the 3DS. I used to own a Gameboy, but it disappeared mysteriously.
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>>256059294
You know, if some people would spend less time shitting on nintendo and making threads about their favourite videogame, maybe there would be more non-nintendo threads as well.

And /v/ is mostly PC players anyway.
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>>256059351
>that picture
kek'd
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>>256058240

Why buy a new $50 Super Mario game when you can get Super Mario on the iOS for just 99 cents? And then pay an extra dollar to make Mario jump higher! And then, if you're having too hard a time you can drop another dollar for 10 Super Mushrooms to be used at any time, OR five dollars for 10 Super Stars!

This isn't a fantasy exageration, either a shareholder or someone on the board at Nintendo actually said "pay a dollar to make Mario jump higher"
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>>256059320
How much longer do you think their profits will last in their current position?
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SMARTPHONE GAYMERS GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>256055760
>Bussinesswise,
yeah turning into zynga is a great fucking idea
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>>256059045
Because you are a pump n' dump investor and deserve to burn in financial hell.

Good enough?
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>>256059151
>Nintendo needs to stop relying on this gimmick technology and actually make a console that can compete with Sony/Microsoft's graphically


Yeah, and run games at a silky smooth 30fps? No thanks. They do need to focus on better hardware, but it's stupid to try and make a dumbed down computer like Microsoft and Sony do. Consoles need more variety not only in games, but hardware too. They try and compete with Microsoft and Sony on their level, and they'll fail.
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>>256059378
i didn't say anything Sony or Microsoft faggot
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>>256059294
Yes, that is totally related to Nintendo fanboyism and not to the industry currently being composed of Nintendo and 2 different kinds of Microsoft.

Or the library of both the xbone and the PS4 being utter, complete, total shit

Nope.

It's nintendo fanboyism I tell ya
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>>256058371
I remember the "Nintendo Fusion" rumour that was so poorly conceived they actually claimed that it would feature standard PC architecture and be a powerhouse...for £350
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Even though Iwata is resisting mobile garbage, he has no idea how the internet has changed things. Their online infrastructure is garbage.
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>>256052991
Iwata should just let it go to smartphones. The graphics are identical anyway.

>pic related: nintendos current fanbase
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>>256057683
>Mobile gaming is literally the cancer killing video games
nope
Shitty business practices that plague lots of mobile games are, but they plague console games to.
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>>256059294
but also, count the number of nintendo hate/is doomed/how can we fix threads

it's like people don't understand that the larger the fanbase, the larger the hatebase. Nintendo has the biggest of both on /v/.
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>>256058778
>Loves vidya too much
>Siding with the managers that want Nintendo games for phones

Are you sure?
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>>256053521

Shareholders of Nintendo are primarily company workers and extended family of the employees. If they dont like Iwata, its really that fucking bad.
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Iwata because fuck nepotism.
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>>256059045
Some of us actually care about video game quality. Go fuck yourself, suit
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>>256059447
>More Metroid Starfox and FZero.

What a nice combo of niche franchises, anon.
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>>256059045
BA-ZYNGA
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>>256059378
Nobody claimed that but you

You are the one with a victim complex anon
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>>256059636
How? Have you actually played online since Wii?
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>>256059345
Well, you got me curious so I do a quick google check.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e140331.html

pic related.
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>>256059045
those "profits" will last as long a bubble in a cactus field.
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>>256056652
>they would last longer following the mobile profit.

and be essentially EA with Nintendo franchises? no thanks
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>>256059492
>You know, if some people would spend less time shitting on nintendo

You're getting this backwards.

>And /v/ is mostly PC players anyway.
Source: rectal cavity
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>>256055760
They'd make profit selling out all thier old franchises like that, but that profit would dry up really quick. Iwata is in charge of making nintendo last another 100 years. Alienating all the people who like video games for people who cant stand paying more than a dollar for smart phone games isnt a good strategy
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>>256059515
holy shit, is this real? Sonyggers are getting BTFO
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> PiiU sells like shit
> 3DS has no games
> IWATA IS THE HERO NINTENDO DESERVES
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Axe that chink
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>Mario to smartphones

jesus christ what a horrible idea - the only edge and nintendo's charm is their characters on their platforms. they might as well start porting Mario, Zelda and Metroid and kill their company.
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>>256059618
Nobody believed that except shitposters that pretended to be nintendo fans.
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>>256058856
>it was listed in the year of my birth
What does that even mean anyways? Didn't Nintendo start in the 1800's?
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>>256059345
you forgot EA
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>>256058092
What the fuck

>People lose their families, homes, and pets
>Hurr why didn't Nintendo send them Wii Fit?!
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>>256059312
>>256059045
Stop lying, Neogaf faggot.
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>>256059680
I just said that i'm with Iwata, you dingus
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>>256059413
Of course they won't, they never did.
>Shoulder buttons
>Sticks
>Rumble
>Analog shoulder buttons
>Motion controls
>Dual screens

They will never stop inventing new gimmicks
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>>256059636
>>256059757
It's not nearly as bad as people claim, it's still honestly bad.

Like, Internet is not going away anytime soon, Nintendo should invest into a strong online system, they have to do it at some point, might as well be soon
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>>256059328
That is true, but companies these days only seem to care about the next graphical enhancement (which is ironic since they develop for consoles and not PC), so Nintendo being behind everything is problematic in this regard.
>>256059398
Gamecube was a great machine, fucked over by third party companies left and right, and it was due in fact that the PS2 existed at this time. The PS3 and PS4 are nowhere near the PS2's status, nor will they ever be. The Xbox brand only took off thanks to Halo, which deterred a lot of people away from the Gamecube.
>>256059413
Sadly, it's the truth. One of their biggest problems as well is the decision to call the Wii U, the Wii U. Most people that game these days thing it's just a peripheral for the Wii and don't understand it's an entirely new console, especially factoring in all the random people that bought a Wii. Nintendo still has plenty of money, sure they lost a shitton of it in the first quarter alone, but they've got plenty, and I don't see them going under anytime soon or having to resort to smartphone games.

Even if the consoles ever do go down, they'll just stick to handhelds exclusively.
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>President has integrity
>Gets himself more involved with his company's projects
Really says something when this is considered to be bad.
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>>256058101
cmon knowing what either is kinda dumb. at least a DS or a Wii
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>>256059294
You must be REALLY new here if you honestly think that /v/ has been Nintendo centric for anything more than a year.

Seriously, fuck. It was closer to "/v/ - Sony" between 2006 and 2011
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>>256059045
that image is cute, saved
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>>256059045

>Short term profit is better than longterm profit xD

Thats the reason everybody hates investors like ...
I forgot his name the old faggot who is always invited
Pachter thats his name.
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>>256059045

>Investing in Nintendo because the Wii made tons of dosh and you arrived late to the train
>now want them to go mobile because you fucked up with your investment

You fucked up. Maybe do some research into the field before you invest like someone who isn't retarded.
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>>256058994
Of course they need to change their ways, but jumping on the mobile bandwagon without fully understanding the risks and rewards is retarded. That's the problem with investors, they would want the rewards without considering the risks of Nintendo doing it. Dropping people who give Nintendo's money without proving that Mobile audience is going to give you more money is silly .

I don't like the idea of Nintendo going mobile without going third party, first. I don't think it's possible for Nintendo to go mobile, and have a handheld busines at the same time. It's nothing more then accepting defeaft that could spiral for black PR for the 3DS and Wii U. I don't think Nintendo should be just focusing on mobile itself. They just focusing on extending their reaches in the MMO, F2P in mutiple markets, Smart Toys, health, etc instead of just merely focusing JUST mobile.

Yes Capcom releases mobile games, but they still make amusement park/arcades. Yes Square Enix releases mobile, but they have tenacles elsewhere. Gungho releases mobie, but they have have MMOs and network services to back on.

Nintendo ONLY focusing on mobile seems silly without actual legit plan.
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>>256059985
>But I love video games too much to not be on Iwata's side
>to not be on Iwata's side
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>>256059690
But they do like him

>>256059870
>> 3DS has no games

What.
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>>256059870
Why are you even here, normalfag?
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>>256059368
>http://seekingalpha.com/article/2373295-valuation-why-zyngas-stock-is-worth-less-than-2
>need to registrar.
>Just highlight everything and it works fine.
Who the fuck runs this website?
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>>256059778
>You're getting this backwards
Oh sure. Where were you when nintendo registered a loss this last week?
> Source
Just browse more. You must be really blind.
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>>256059587
Considering Nintendo actually knows how to make a game run smoothly I don't think they'd have a problem with it. Consumers don't want gimmicks, they just want something they think looks pretty and runs at 30fps, this is the sad truth these days.
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>>256059045
you're a fucking moron.
>its my money abloo bloo
Investors are so goddamn stupid. Going public is the worst thing any company with integrity can do.
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>>256052991
As much as I hate smart phones and shit, that's where all the money and the casual market is heading, stubbornly refusing to adapt to change might be admirable, but it's certainly not a good strategy for a company.
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>>256059883

Exactly. And yet, we had a good 20 threads a day for 2 weeks.

Then the shareholder meeting comes around and, funnily enough, Iwatas big shakeup was just getting a new marketing team. Hilarious.
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>>256059602
>It's nintendo fanboyism I tell ya

Considering a good 10% of all /v/ content is Smash threads.

>Or the library of both the xbone and the PS4 being utter, complete, total shit
As opposed to what, the nth entry of classic Nintendo IPs with the same fucking gameplay for over a decade, which look like they were made in 2004?

It doesn't matter how shit it the games are on Wii U, /v/ will and does defend them to death. Your shitposting is a prime example.
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>>256057367
Nintendo will never go towards Mobile. It would be a sign of defeat and for a company like Nintendo, who's whole principles are built on not giving in, it would be sudoku for them.
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>>256060074
It's PC masterrace above anything.

It's just that the current state of the industry is utter shit, you have the Xbone, an upraded xbox360 that says "PS4" on the front and the WiiU

And the one with the most exclusives is 100% going to be the WiiU

And WiiU actually does cater to the hardcore audience, plenty for the age of the system even.

/v/ is not biased towards Nintendo, Nintendo is biased towards /v/, ESPECIALLY in comparison to the other two
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>>256059870
I'd rather have bland rehashes than mobile games. Do you really have no idea how unimaginably horrible they are? Phone games make sticker star and other M look like masterpieces
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>>256059647
Oh yes the graphics are caught up well done. That was surely the only issue.

Not the lack of good controls
Or the lack of quality control and abundance of ripoffs
Or the inability to price a game for more than free or a buck
Or the fact that most people arent willing to play through a long game on just their phone
Or the insecurity of depending on other peoples hardware
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>>256058092
I have to admit, if they had stations of Wii Fit and Wii Sports that survivors could play in the care centers, that would have been the BEST PR stunt in the world. Guarantee they wouldn't have had money problems after that
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Obligatory
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Phones are cancer, but it's where money is made.
Shareholders at a recent Falcom meeting also adressed this. They wanted to see how ARPGs faired on mobile.
It's fucking over, guys...
Unless they want to make games for us 'Gaijins' which we all know how it will end up.
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>>256060074
What? Sony was always mocked. No gaems, ect.

If it wasn't for Demon's Souls, PS3 would have been paper weight for a solid 3 years.
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>>256059151
Can you honestly tell me what the PS4 does that the Xbox One can't, or vice versa? I mean, I'm no expert, but the games for the most part look exactly the same graphically-wise, and 95% of the games can be matched with that same one or one dangerously similar to it on the other console.

Heck, call me a Nintendrone, but it seems like Nintendo will continue to do alright so long as they improve their marketing and continue to find some positive way to set themselves apart from the competition. Sony and Microsoft seem like they're essentially copying each other now when you look at the big-picture.
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>>256059986
>They will never stop inventing new gimmicks

Maybe they should stop focusing on inventing gimmicks so they have enough time left over to make new games, as opposed to slapping together yet another Mario title.
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>>256060271
The difference between the two is, even though Nintendo does rehash, their games are still fun even if it's the same old shit every time. Sony and Microsoft pump out rehashes, but those games were never fun, except maybe one or two here and there.
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>>256060087
I've been invested with Nintendo since 2002. I want other investors to agree with me to get rid of Iwata.
He's a stubborn man, and a former dev shouldn't be at the helm of the business. I'm sorry, but the profits from the Wii and DS are quickly diminishing. Maybe mobile is too saturated but 3rd party on other big platforms would be fantastic.
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>>256060271
>As opposed to what, the nth entry of classic Nintendo IPs with the same fucking gameplay for over a decade, which look like they were made in 2004?

Right, because the others don't do this

Changing the IP means nothing if you are left with fucking generic TPS
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>>256059528
Certainly longer than if they went mobile.
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>>256059757
Everyone uses online, and I don't own a WiiU but the 3DS eshop is terrible, and all of these upcoming Ninty games don't even have online multiplayer.
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>>256054223
We dont know if he's micromanaging or not
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>>256059045
>I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money

this is the true cancer. right here. unless b8t
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I'd love to know how you're supposed to play a Mario game with no buttons. Would it just auto-run and you'd tap the screen to jump?
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>>256052991
This article is fake as fuck but for discussion I'd side with Iwata without a second thought.

Shareholders are fucking retarded. None of them have any idea what exactly is going on with the smartphone field because they're a bunch of actual retards flinging their worthless MBAs around saying "EVERYTHING SMARTPHONE IS THE FUTURE EVERYTHING MUST BE ON SMARTPHONE EVEN IF IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE LONG TERM MY APINION IS GRATE". You fags who think that anything Nintendo will do for smartphones will be anything other than nostalgia-goggles cash in bullshit are completely delusional. You think Nintendo isn't putting out new IPs now? Watch as every six months a "New" Super Mario Bros Android + iOS app is released with fewer and fewer returns each time.

The smartphone bubble burst long ago and only now people are starting to get it. Look at any smartphone market: it's filled with shovelware and fishy shit. Zynga is floundering around. Every smartphone game without fail has some sort of cash shop for the sole purpose of "pay2 get stuff faster" but all of that is turning casuals away who want a quick burst of entertainment. The smartphone market is so chockfull of wasted devs it's sad, with all of them wanting to be the next lottery golden app designer like Flappy Bird was.

I will say that Nintendo's senior-citizen tier fear of net integration is appalling. They're sitting on an actual gold mine if they made Mario Party not only local multiplayer but online multiplayer.
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>>256060119

Shit, Gungho released a port of Puzzle and Dragons for the 3DS, and I'm pretty sure that P&D is one of the biggest/best selling mobile games available for Gungho, one of the biggest/most profitable mobile devs around.

Also another big difference is that Capcom and Squeenix are third party devs and don't create hardware. They don't jeopardize sales of their hardware by making mobile games.
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>>256060463
Stop pretending, weeb. Really.
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>>256060401
No ones buying it, smartphone gaymer.

You can stop pretending now, faggot
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>>256060463
pic or didn't happen.
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>>256060421
>If it wasn't for Demon's Souls, PS3 would have been paper weight for a solid 3 years.

*For another 3 years

>>256060463
>He's a stubborn man, and a former dev shouldn't be at the helm of the business

Maybe you are baiting, maybe you don't know shit about Iwata's career, but you are wrong and your post is crap
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>>256060446
Because hardware developers are software developers.
OH wait you are just a shitposter.
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>>256060332
>And WiiU actually does cater to the hardcore audience

With what, exactly? Games designed to be family friendly?

>It's PC masterrace above anything.
Yeah, and you aren't part of it.
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>>256060232
That's why it's best for Nintendo to move away from the casuals. They already are, but they need to still do more.
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>>256060232
See
>>256057913
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>>256052991
>cultural friction based on how Iwata comes from outside the company
Japs even found a way to be xenophobic about their own people
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>>256059045
>I don't give a shit if you guys cry over the quality of the games, it's my money
That's the whole fucking point of modern Nintendo.
It's why they ruled the game industry with an iron fist. They MADE SURE GAMES WEREN'T COMPLETE SHIT. THEY DIDN'T WANT AWFUL GAMES LIKE ATARI HAD IN THE EARLY 80s
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>Someone tossing out piss-poor bat
>Gotta put in an anime image to draw in the few autists who get mad over that stuff
Good to see /v/ is as stupid as ever
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>>256059045
>arrived late for the wii gravy train
>thinks there's money to be made in mobile gaming
>invests without doing research
>investing during an economic rescission
>investing in an industry that was hit most by the recession
>posting worst girl
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>>256060429
They do the same thing, beyond having an exclusive here and there, and that's all consumers care about. Especially in this day in age, if it looks pretty buy it.

If there was a current Mario game that had the graphical quality of a PS4/One then people might actually decide to buy a Nintendo console to try it out, if only because it looks pretty and it's a well known series.

The community has long since been dead.
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>>256052991

Of course Mr Yamauchi's son is the real candinate for President because in Japan family ties are very important. Regardless of how Iwata performs he will be ALWAYS an outsider inside the company as that's how Japs think.

It's not n't know.necessarily a good thing, I don't know.
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>>256052991
I agree with Iwata about everything but shunning online. If the Wii-U had a decent online service and more first party titles implemented online MP then it would be fucking perfect.
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>>256060463
Ever notice how these shitposters always have an anime avatar?
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>>256060463
>3rd party on other big platforms would be fantastic
Imagine a world where you can get the next Zelda on the Wii U, the Xbone, or the PS4. If you could get 1st party nintendo games AND next-gen multiplats on one system, why would you buy a Wii U? It would destroy them.
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>>256052991

I'm siding with Nintendo because they're right. Smartphones won and you would have to be stupid not to embrace them. They are not good for gaming yet but that's because nobody has tried to make it any good. Everyone is out there releasing free or $1 games that are purely shovelware and time wasters for 25-60 year old non gamers who need to waste a few minutes of their time. Mario is both simple and iconic and just like Nintendo can differentiate between a handheld and console game, they too can differentiate between a handheld and smartphone game. It wouldn't cost them much to do and it would be insanely popular because everyone knows who Mario is and the quality would be a thousand time greater than anything currently available on smartphones. They're literally shooting themselves in the feet because they would rather sell their shitty hardware for the sake of maintaining the 100% Nintendo experience.

This is like Apple not having Microsoft Office. Just give in already and stop making an ass out of yourself Iwata.
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>>256060610
I fucking hate phone gaming. I was just pointing out the cold, hard facts; Japan is abandoning consoles for phones, because people are brain dead and love mediocrity.
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>>256060467
>Right, because the others don't do this
They don't.

>Changing the IP means nothing if you are left with fucking generic TPS
So you are saying that Nintendo aren't capable of putting out anything new and worth playing?
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>stubbornly rejects the “net”
If this is true that's the one thing I will take issue with. Nintendo consoles are in the fucking stone age when it comes to online interactions. That's the one thing they need to fucking step their game up with.
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>>256060562
Apple is also getting tired of mobile gaming as well. They can't stand anymore the fact people don't buy apps but they simply download free titles.
Mobile gaming is not different from the java mobile gaming of ten years ago.
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>>256060798
Good thing Japan isn't anywhere near the majority of the market then.
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>>256060659
>>With what, exactly? Games designed to be family friendly?

Pikmin, MHU, W101.

SM3DW having some balls to the walls hard stages, SMBU having balls to the walls hard challenges.

Bayonetta 1/2 coming.

This is the most hardcore titles a console has had this early in its life since fucking forever
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>>256060132
>reading comprehension
try removing that "not"
read it again
what does it tell you?
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>Sega went mobile, shit didn't work
>EA went mobile, shit didn't work
>Capcom went mobile, shit didn't work
>Zynga went mobile, shit didn't work
>Square Enix went mobile, shit didn't work
>"b-but if ninty put mario and zelda on Android, everything will be fine."
coming from the same group of shits that Adam Sessler want to beat on and the same faggots that wants Nintendo to go third party and make games/HD ports for Steam and PS4/Vita.
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>>256060562
It just amazes me that people think this article has any truth to it when it's clearly just anti-Nintendo fanfiction. Guess it's a slow news day so they had to post blatant lies
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>>256060463

>Since 2002

Ok, so you've been backing Nintendo since the GBA/GCN era, which, if I recall, was pretty abysmal for them, too. And that was also right around the time Iwata was appointed president, so you can't fall back on I TRUSTED YAMAUCHI. They certainly weren't pulling Wii/DS money then, and wouldn't be until, what, 2007? And at the time there was no rumor of them going third party or a screaming pressure from investors to GO THIRD PARTY JESUS WE NEED THE MONEY.

Why not back MS or, even better, Sony? And if you're so concerned about Nintendo not giving up on their hardware, why not just withdraw your investments and take them to another more profitable venture?
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>>256060748

And to add - smartphones are seen lucrative to Jap shareholders as JUST NOW people IN Japan are starting to adapt new smartphones. The market is booming.

The west on the other hand..
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Who was it who said that microtransactions were killing gaming because the cheaper prices were becoming more appealing than the standard console game prices?
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>>256060871
He's not rejecting online gaming, just rejecting the fact that you have to download games, he likes things to be physical instead of digital.
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>>256060421
And that's why there was so much "why don't you own a ps3 yet" threads much like the Wii u here. It's a few fanboys making the rest of the game look bad
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>>256060421
The Wii got equally as much hate when it came out also. "Waggle shit" etc.This happens every gen until consoles eventually get enough games. Then people can talk about games instead of spouting "memes"
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>>256058092
That would have been the best PR stunt in the universe, if they had thought about QOL during that exact same time they could have been fithtly rich.

The Iwata isn't jew like the Yamauchis are, I can see why the shareholders don't like him.
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>>256060829
>They don't.

Damn right they don't

Now let us wait for halo collection, or play TLoU rehash

Or uncharted rehash

Or Killzone rehash

Or Infamous rehash

Totally fucking different, watch_dogs offers SUCH INNOVATIVE GAMEPLAY man
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>>256060646
>Because hardware developers are software developers.

Right, so that's why Nintendo has had such a long and bitter history with third party developers.


Hardware is meaningless if you can't make games for shit anymore and you are too stubborn to hire third party devs who can make a game that isn't a numbered title or spin off from one of the very few heavily milked IPs.
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>>256059237
Don Mattrick is their CEO, that's the lowest they can go.
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>>256060871
If you talk about their account system and digital purchase you are right.
But their online servers are fine, especially if you consider online play is free on their consoles, as opposed to others.
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>>256060562
Dude i agree with making more nintendo games multiplayer online, but mario party? The sheer amount of internet hatred and rage quitting would surpass every other online game combined. Though yeah id love to play with friends far away.
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>>256060719
But do people not think that the Wii U looks fantastic as well?

Heck, I'm not trying to compare it to its competitor's graphics, but if you watch Mario Kart 8 videos and most other Wii U gameplay videos, it's like color-heaven. In some instances it's a little much, but my favorite part of Mario Kart 8 was just how well they constructed each course and how bright of a game it was.

And many of the people who would want a console because it looks pretty might just be kids who have their parents buy them everything, and I can tell you right now parents are going to be more inclined to buy their children Nintendo products over anything else for the sake of colors and age-appropriateness
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>>256060463
If you're really an investor, you have got to be the dumbest one in history.

God forbid you ever become head of a company, you'd run it into the ground in a year with your shortsighted retarded ideas.

>Hurrr lets put all our games on other platforms instead of our own, surely that will make us money
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>>256060905
It is, but they won't make niche games for the west. That market will be dead. We'll get our Metal Gears and Final Fantasies, but our YSs and Dragon Crowns will be gone forever.
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>>256060463
The phone market is already saturated enough. Any nintendo game you could possibly port to a phone has been reskinned countless times by indiescum.

What will firing Iwata accomplish except for opening the door to investors gutting the company?
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>>256060946
>archaic hardware
While that's true, so is Sony and Microsoft, and casuals fail to see this.

Graphics are all that matters anymore, nobody could give a shit about how well a game even plays anymore.
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>>256052991
Fuck phone gaming with a knife

>no fucking buttons (inb4 "but just plug a controller in" That's a fucking copout and you know it)
>BUY 1000 GEMS FOR $99.99
>games you only play for 10 minutes at a time
>every game is a ripoff of a 10 year old flash game

No, it'll never fucking happen, and if it does, I'm fucking done with gaming entirely.
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>>256060461
Just because you don't find something fun, doesn't mean it isn't fun. Not every game has to be an autistic nostalgia-fest to be enjoyable.
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Fire Iwata.
Hire Bill Trinen
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>>256061074
>Infamous Rehash.
Come on now. 3 games is not a rehash.
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>>256060920
>Pikmin, MHU, W101.
What exactly is "hardcore" about these games?

>SM3DW having some balls to the walls hard stages, SMBU having balls to the walls hard challenges.

There are plenty of shumps on the Xbox.

>Bayonetta 1/2 coming.
You taking the piss? This xbox/ps reject is your example of a hardcore game?

>This is the most hardcore titles a console has had this early in its life since fucking forever
In it's life cycle? Oh no, anon, we aren't shifting the goalposts here.
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How do we remove the Smartphone Shill and Neogaf cancer that is infesting /v/?
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>>256061232
I'd love you to walk into pikmin threads and mention this then, because we have that shit every single time.

Then again, it's only a rehash if nintendo does it
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>>256061114
A lot of people do think the Wii U is fine, but the majority of the market seems to think Nintendo has poor graphics because of it's color and cartoon like art-styles.

People want this gritty grimdark graphics that have this 'enriching and deep' story to them. They basically all want it to be a Nolan Batman film.
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>>256061151
Not to mention that people will not buy apps unless they're a buck or free.
They'd have to make P2W SMB. With in game microtransactions to even earn any money.
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>>256054583
because of amiibo
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>have a smartphone for 3 years and a tablet for 1 year.
>uninstall every game I tried on them after 2 minutes.
>Not going back to normal cellphone which has superior typing only because of whatsapp

Will Nintendo making smartphone games change my opinion on them? Or they would make games with zero depth and soul like all other mobile games?
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>>256061334
Normalfag!
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>>256061335
We don't. We can't even remove threads of people complaining about SJW crap, even though /v/ constantly complains about it being everywhere.
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>>256060946
>Kaz avatar
>Everyone who disagrees gets banned
is Neogaf just an advertising site for Sony?
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>>256059517
If I remember correctly, it was a Hong Kong investor.

I'm firmly on Iwata's side, because he's fairly dedicated to not selling out, and to making new games instead of making new ways to treat customers like shit.
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>>256061128
Then stop playing exclusively Eastern titles and play some Western titles, they aren't all bad, in fact, quite a lot of them are good

I love the tears and West vs east threads because people like me will sit back, enjoy the best of both sides
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>>256061334
fuck off retard
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>>256061347
These are also people who usually die from gluttony because they want to go big or go home.

Just wait a few years until they all die off.
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>>256060957
>And at the time there was no rumor of them going third party or a screaming pressure from investors to GO THIRD PARTY JESUS WE NEED THE MONEY.
Nintendo: Doomed Since 1889

Can't find the picture on me right now
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>>256060767
Yeah. It's normalfags false flagging to make the sheep of /v/ hate anime; despite them all browsing fucking weeb central.
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>>256061457
They'd try one game for an experiment, it woul dbe $60 and have depth and nobody would buy it because it's not $1.
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>>256055598
nintendo consoles don't go in the same direction as the other consoles do, this is why they're not doing as well sales-wise, and this is why even if the others die, nintendo's console won't be impacted as much.

but either way you're retarded
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>>256061340
It depends on the game and how much the gameplay has changed.
NSMB is a fucking rehash, since it's basically just Mario 3 in 3D. There's also 5 of them that looks exactly the same if you put them side-by-side.
Call of Duty is a rehash, since it's the same shit with microscopic changes since COD4.
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>>256060946
>i would love having Nintendo software to be available on my PS4, NeXtbox, or iOS device.
>Kazuo avatar
oh, that's why they want Iwata fired and Nintendo going 3rd party...

>them sour grapes
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>>256052991
I think smartphone games could be the way to go for Nintendo.

The problem there having is that their games are viewed as being for small children, that their market, and parents don't want to spend a lot of money and game systems for small children. Smartphones on the other hand, a lot of small children already have those
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HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO PLAY MARIO WITH NO BUTTONS
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>>256061541
I thought it would die out ages ago man, but it hasn't, it's only picked up.
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>>256061074
>rehash

Wait, which Smash game are we up to? Which Mario Kart are we up to? Which Donkey Kong title are we up to? Which Mario platformer are we up to?


It's pretty fucking hilarious for someone to defend Nintendo games to turn around and call other games "rehashes".

Do you have no self awareness?
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>>256056652
1
>I highly doubt they lost that much and I will need a source

2
>"losing" isn't the same as "investing"
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Gaming on smartphones is so shitty. Do you guys even play ports on Android and iOS? They need to take up room on the already limited screen for a control interface, and that gets hot real quick.

They don't build these phones to last, they build them to outlast their warranty, then the touch screen begins to become unresponsive, the battery life gives 30 minutes of gaming at best.
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Every day is Doomsday.
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>>256061579
That Toad game would actually work.
Just let faggots pay microtransactions for lives, speedboosts etc.
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>>256061558
I got you cover.
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>>256061334
fuck off retard
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>>256061334
>am I trolling yet guise????? is this how you troll???????
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>>256061693
Tap the left side to jump.
Tap the right side to shoot fire.
Press the Shop button to buy Coins that allow you to buy Mushrooms, Fire Flowers, Tanooki Suits, and other classic Mario items and characters.
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>>256061232
3 games in one generation is a total rehash. At least Nintendo keeps it main series to about 1-2 games per gen. All the "rehash" shit are spinoffs and the like.
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>>256061797
There's a better one that has some more stuff but yea that's a good bit of it.
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>>256061334
Do you think that the so called hardcore gamers are the majority of gamers?
Most people playing video games are casuals that play COD, FIFA or 2K NBA games.
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>Mario! Princess Peach has been kidnapped!
>If you want to rescue her quickly, you'll need powerups found throughout the Mushroom Kingdom!
>For only $4.99, you can get all of the powerups from the Mushroom Kingdom's Royal Armory and defeat Bowser before night time!
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>>256061797
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>>256057910
Pretty sure Iwata or someone from Nintendo said they're working on that a while ago. Don't remember where I saw it though.
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>>256059690
Like Who?
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>>256061872
>>256061828

Nice response. You sure showed me how hardcore those games were.
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>Stockholders
>Ever worth listening to

If they were truly business savvy wouldn't they be running their own business'?
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>>256061693
By using your fingers and blocking out half the game.
I never got why people think that is a good idea.
I mean, for games where you have to constantly hold down buttons it's fucking horrible, but for SRPGs it's totally fine.(look at Xcom.)
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>>256059706

Great, lets gag on Mario and Links dick for the millionth time. That sure shows creativity!
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>>256053741
and then you'll turn around complain about them milking money out of people
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>>256052991
mfw Iwata is the only one at nintendo who seems to know what he's doing
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>>256052991
the second he gets axed is the second nintendo becomes shit. mark my fucking words. shareholders are just getting pissy that their last lightning in a bottle console didn't happen twice. nintendo's far from going bankrupt, they're just mad that they're not moving as fast as before, which was basically on fucking cheatcodes
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>>256057610
>This is what /v/ wishes it could be like IRL
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>>256061797
Shitposting never changes. Also:
>AOL
>Beavis and Butthead
>Pentium 100 MPC

Christ almighty you can just drink in the 90s from this
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>>256061994
>>Stockholders
>>Ever worth listening to

Well yes, as without them the company would be worthless.
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>>256061960
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>>256061558
>>256061797
don't worry, i got this
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>>256061334
>In it's life cycle? Oh no, anon, we aren't shifting the goalposts here.

You have to be completely retarded to compare the entire lifetime of a console to the two first years of another
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>>256061334
>Whats hardcore about w101

Are you one of those guys that thinks because it looks childish it must be casual?

Wonderful 101s biggest issue with the scummy reviewers was that it was interesting and challenging when they just wanted a walking sim. The game gets so hard and combo based towards the end, and hard mode and 101% make it the hardest game of 2013.

Oh but why am i replying. This whole thread is a console war circle jerk and your just being contradictory.
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>>256062134
No it wouldn't. They are there to give money. They aren't the brains, though.
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>>256061797

Do you have the one from some electronics magazine that was like "if Nintendo seriously plans to come to the west with a home video game console, they're probably going to be dead on arrival"
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>>256062167
That'st he one I was looking for, thanks.
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>>256062152
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>>256062028
They already are, but they're doing it in a stupid manner because they are stuck in the past.
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>>256061797
Oh my god, shitposting tactics haven't changed in 20 years.
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>>256062212
>No it wouldn't. They are there to give money
That's the point. Without their money the business would become bankrupt.

That's how this works.
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>>256062235
well, that's all from me. I am pretty sure there are a lot more but I haven't saved them.
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>>256060829
Why though?
If they make a platformer and slap the Mario IP on it, it will guarantee them money. They pump out titles like Mario for the imminent dosh where titles like Wonderful 101 are there to experiment. Mario essentially compensates for experimentation. Otherwise the only way you can experiment after that is by selling assets to compensate or just watch stocks tank

They won't quit Mario, because Mario will always make money. And unlike the mobile app crap, Mario actually guarantees long term profit
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Oh great another thread with bad news in the OP and it already was moved to console war shitposting by the NIDF. Thanks based NIDF for not allowing any discussion if it is negativ for nintendo.
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Executives and shareholders don't know what the fuck they are talking about. All they want is quick cash and they will gladly run any company into the ground to get it. Nintendo should rightfully be in the hands of someone who has a development background.
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>>256061797

The more things change. You could change only a few words and it would read like a shitpost that was posted today.
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>>256062370

The point is they're wanting em to jew people out of their money, I wouldnt be surprised if the stockholders were jewish.
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>>256062152
I wonder if this guy knows he is now immortalized by a bunch of virgins.
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>>256062647
He's probably dead.
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>>256062481
>rumors
>thinking mobile is a good idea
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>>256062235
HAHAHAHA. IT's the same shit as now.
>CONSOLES ARE DOOMED!
>MUSTARD RACE!
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>>256062458
>They won't quit Mario, because Mario will always make money. And unlike the mobile app crap, Mario actually guarantees long term profit

This is the reason why people aren't taking Nintendo seriously anymore. The main difference between Nintendo and companies like EA, at the moment, is that Nintendo is too stubborn and can't into online, whereas the other rehash machines are making hundreds of millions of dollars and doing it with online support.
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>>256062481
We got a modern day Voltaire over here.
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>>256062481
Isn't it lovely, this fantasy some people have built, of them as a freedom fighters against the evil Mushroom Reich.
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I just want Nintendo to have hardware on par with the competition. I loved using my Gamecube for console-only multiplats but no developer will want to do that for the Wii U when they pumped up the graphics for their game on the PS4 and Xbone.
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>>256062553
>The point is they're wanting em to jew people out of their money, I wouldnt be surprised if the stockholders were jewish.

Do you honestly think that the company was any different in the 90s? This is a business, anon.
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>Iwata's approval rating went up 3% a couple weeks ago
>this "rumor"

Alright.
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>>256062732
Maybe some of these clowns are still shitposting, in here.
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The only way I would be okay with Nintendo putting game on mobile is if they didn't interfere with the console/handheld stuff, allowed other franchises to get focus on the handhelds/consoles due to mobile raking in dosh, and they didn't abuse the micro transaction.
Obviously this would never happen so I can't get behind Nintendo on mobile
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>>256061114
The Wii U at least has the technology to produce shadows.
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>>256062754

And yet PC remains dead last with nothing but an oversaturated market of shovelware crap only basement dwellers play
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>>256062481
Maybe you'd feel more comfortable at Neogaf? You can circlejerk over Nintendoom articles and how much you hate Iwata all you want, faggot.
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>>256052991
The pricing on smartphones makes it so that they're only really profitable if you're making either a low budget/F2P game or a port of something that's already successful.
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>>256062963

That would not surprise me.
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Iwata since they continue making excelent games and doesn't want to go all digital or multiplatform.

they still treat vydia as vydia as opposed to movies and create games based on gameplay first, story and characters later
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>>256062994
No thanks NIDF member, I like to laugh at you miserable console babies so I will stay here and watch you flinging shit at each other like it was a crusade and you have to purge this board of the opposite religion
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>>256062994
Fuck off you piece of shit. There are threads mocking Sony's financial situation, Steam's DRM and Microsoft's Xbox all the fucking time.


It is always the Nintendo fanboys who are the ones telling others to leave. Since YOU want the hugbox, why don't YOU fuck off?
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>>256062915

>Business
>Jewing people out of their money with unethical methods
>Implying mobile is any good
>B-B-BUT IT'S WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING!!!
>99% of every "game" is a halfassed ripoff of an existing game
>Hilariously people charge money for soundboards of already established sources along with other shitty apps they make
>Seriously using your phone as a gaming device
>2014
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>>256062481
Mobile gaming is a threat to console and PC gaming on a whole.
Just look at games like Candy Crush and Kim Karashinans shitty F2P games rake in 40 million a day.
Look at how prevalent indie games have become the last 5 years and just how casual and shitty most AAA games are.
The days of good high budget games are over. All we're left with are some good indie games and a shitton of bad ones.and Madden
Only the Slavs can save us now.
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Well:

If you want profit and long term stabilization of the company, then you'd be anti-Iwata

However, if you desired Nintendo to be what it is now and not change even in the face of destruction, you'd be pro-Iwata.

It all depends on what you want. Pokemon and other RPGs on smartphones would be profitable as all hell, but sometimes "integrity" has more value. Haha, who am I kidding. Cash is king, baby.
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>>256062772
But it's smart
If they have an IP that will generate endless cashflow it allows for experimentation. Mario is currently compensating for Wonderful 101 and probably helping to fund Bayonetta 2. Both are titles that are new for Nintendo and didn't (or won't) sell great. As much as I love Bayonetta and as quickly as I'll get that game, it's not going to sell well. But not the point.

Do you get what I am saying? Mario allows them to be more flexible. If you say Nintendo doesn't experiment and make new IP's then you are certainly in denial
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>>256062969
>Nintendrones trying to have a graphic pissing contest

Nobody is this delusional, right?

Should i post X's gameplay footage?
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>>256063294
Answer the question: do yo honestly think that Nintendo was any different in the past?

You seem to have some strange delusions as to how these corporations work.
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>>256062992
>Dead last
>Is more profitable than all the consoles combined

:^)
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>Actually made games
>Doesn't bend over to investors
>Hates smartphone gaming
>Sticks to his plans

Is Iwata the one hero left in the video game industry?
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>>256061753
>Wait, which Smash game are we up to? Which Mario Kart are we up to? Which Donkey Kong title are we up to? Which Mario platformer are we up to?

Yet they are only rehashes if they come from nintendo

God of War? nobody cares

Kingdom hearts? nobody cares

Even if the releases are spaced and on different consoles, it's only a rehash if nintendo does it.
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>This thread:
*farts*
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>>256063429

Everyone wasnt making shitty games at the time, nor did they try to jew everyone.
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>>256052991
I don't like Nintendo at all but I would side with Iwate in this one.
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>>256059294
I'm a fan of videogames, and that's why I appreciate some of the things that Nintendo's been doing, and not really appreciating things that other companies have been doing. I'm sorry if that makes me a "nintoddler" in your eyes.
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>>256063339
>If they have an IP that will generate endless cashflow it allows for experimentation.

What experimentation? Sony is doing more experimentation with their games and they are broke as fuck.

Nintendo has been static for years. When are they going to start making new games? I don't give three fucks about funky controllers or 3D if the only games they are going to publish for it are graphical patches of the same handful of games I've already played to death.
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>>256062167
Oh, Pachter, you card.
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>>256063478
Atelier? Neptunia? If you dislike them wow you must be a normalfag

Smash though? 4 games through 4 different consoles? through 15 years? That's a fucking rehash mate
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>>256063294
>99% of every "game" is a halfassed ripoff of an existing game

You forgot that they also made profit. And considering how japan already abandon console and moving to mobile, its a right choice.
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This gen is really not looking too great as far as shitty business practices go. Nintendo going mobile might be the last nail in the coffin for me. I understand companies need to make money but that doesn't mean I need to support their shitty choices
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>>256063438
As someone who sells indie games, you're full of shit.
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>>256059045
If you really wanted that mobile cash, why didn't you just...invest in mobile? Why are you wanting a company to change their ways (that work) just to chase a few quick bucks that will overall bring quality down?
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>>256059413
>>256059151

>Nintendo makes a console exactly like the PS4 and XBox One.
>Only Nintendo fans buy it, everyone else goes either PS4 for cinematic experience or XBone for Online bang bangs.
>Because of the simple fact that Nintendo will forever be stapled as a kiddy system

Hell the PS4 and XBone sold as well as they did just because Dudebros wanted COD and they where told it would be better on those systems.
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>>256060132
Oh my fuck you need help
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>>256061753
We are on Mario 3D World right now.
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>>256063339
>If you say Nintendo doesn't experiment and make new IP's then you are certainly in denial

How many new IPs do they have on the Wii U at the moment? How many new IP games compared to already present Nintendo IPs? What is the ratio? Just how much flexibility is Mario providing?
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>>256063738
Maybe your game suck dicks.

Go home bob
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I choose the side that rejects smartphones.
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>>256061654
>There's also 5 of them
4, not 5.

>that looks exactly the same if you put them side-by-side.
Except they don't. Only NSMB and 2 look the same. I'm not saying the series isn't a group of rehashes, I'm just telling you that your reasons for thinking they are are outright wrong.
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>>256063684
Neptunia is rehash though, moefag
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>>256060132
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>>256063532
>nor did they try to jew everyone.

Yeah, okay: you're fucking naive.
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Both sides are dumb.

Game consoles are inherently inefficient technologies. They're basically like shitty computers. Back when hardware was slow enough that you needed gaming-specific hardware for enjoyable games, sure, whatever, make machines that only play games. But nowadays, most people do things other than play video games on their machines, and the hardware landscape has changed so much that nowadays PCs are better than consoles at graphics (in the early to mid 90s it was the opposite). So consoles keep adding more bullshit features, putting more money in muh streaming and less money in, um, I don't know, fucking VIDEO GAMES, until people realize it's overpriced hardware with a shit useless OS and no exclusive games. And nowadays, it's very easy to have enjoyable video games with very low graphical fidelity. Mind you, most people don't want Crysis or Star Citizen, they want (if we're to believe statistics)
1) people who play a lot of games : League of Legends, CS:GO and Minecraft
2) people who dont play a lot of games : Candy Crush, 2048, Flappy Bird.

The former are games that put mechanics before graphics; the latter are games that put bullshit before graphics -- the point is, graphical fidelity doesn't matter. The increase in graphical fidelity was greatest from 85-92 and from 96-01 because that's when the industry needed it; these days a lot of triple-A games look about as good as Halo 3 while a game from 1998 would look miles better than a game from 1991. Graphical development rate has slowed down because now we need innovative mechanics, not megatextures and higher poly counts.

For the neckbeard minority that do care about graphics, you can build your own PC -- still no need for consoles. For the 90% of other people, they will use their usual computer or iDevice.

4 years down the line, the Apple AX or Snapdragon 2018 will be more than capable of running games with respectable enough fidelity that people won't care. No console needed.
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>>256062969
>people still on this shadow bullshit
I bet you make stupid elipses threads too
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>>256063805
You jelly your company you are fanboying for doesn't have established IPs? You know, those IPs that people actually care about.
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Iwata needs to go. The man is killing Nintendo with his retarded decisions.

He should also take Aonuma with him. Fucking asshole is killing Zelda.
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>>256063478
>Yet they are only rehashes if they come from nintendo

Don't ignore the question; I was after numbers. I wasn't asking about those other games, so there is no use trying to sperg out and go "b-but those guys".
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>>256056652
>it has since lost over 3 billion on the wii U
And each character in smash takes up 2gb of space so we only have room for one more character.
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>NDF! NDF!

You guys are fucking retarded. /v/ simply foes with the underdog of each gen. Last gen people circlejerked endlessly about Sony because the Wii was selling like hotcakes the the 360 was the target platform for basically everything. Now the PS4 is selling like hotcakes and the Wii U is struggling. So ow everyone is sucking Nintendo cock.

You'll even see people talking positively about the Xbone too now.
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>>256063684
Oh the ironing
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The mere act of porting an old-ass NES game like Super Mario Bros. onto iOS would shatter their reputation in the media.

>Every new Nintendo release on console/handheld gets shit on for not being on iOS.
>Port begging AND bad Nintendo news in every article/review of their content now.
>Nintendo has high probability of floundering in the mobile market due to the radical difference in development cost/time and acceptable market pricing.

Basically Nintendo would be forced into going iOS/third party only due to the slope. And the initial public opinion on this alone would make them profitable for a few years, which is great for the retards who just want their investment to make a quick jump before they bail out. Then comes the fall, the layoffs, the shitty downgrades to the games, the downward spiral.
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I hate smartphone games for the same reason I hate PC Games: Horrible unintuitive controls, terrible optimization due to there being thousands and thousands of different models and specifications for the hardware, unlike consoles which are designed, perfected, and guaranteed to run on one universal system, and having to constantly upgrade your system if you want to play anything new. You might buy the latest smartphone or PC today, and a game that comes out tomorrow may not work on your smartphone or PC because it's not strong enough. And again, terrible controls
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>>256063904

You didn't even play them. Mario actually rehashes its gameplay. If every game was like Galaxy I wouldn't have an issue, but there's way too many smb games.
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>>256063805
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo#Wii_U

Pick them out for yourself, I'll assume that since this is an 18 board you are a big adult that can figure things out for himself
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>>256063684
>4 games through 4 different consoles? through 15 years?
That's not bad at all. Are you baiting? Because Neptunia has had 4 games in 4 years.
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>>256064021
Here is the question, let's see if you are capable of answering it:
>How many new IPs do they have on the Wii U at the moment? How many new IP games compared to already present Nintendo IPs? What is the ratio? Just how much flexibility is Mario providing?
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>>256052991
>Let's replace Iwata with the son of a Yakuza / a Yakuza!

lul
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>>256064143
>I'll assume that since this is an 18 board you are a big adult that can figure things out for himself

List them. I'm not going to do the work to support your argument.
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>>256064065


This so much.
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>>256063978

>implying it's not the neckbeards playing Laughing out Loud
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>>256064051
Or maybe you just don't like 3D Zelda, dipshit?

Who the fuck can hate the man behind MM? Get out, pleb.
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>>256063978
So you don't need consoles.

And yet mobile devices don't work, because I know these shareholders are going to ape currently "successful" mechanics in mobile game design; shitty microtransactions that con 6 year olds to get their mommy to buy them the new sword and hypereasy games that make 6 year olds feel satisfied.

What needs to happen is smart designers switching to the mobile platform and treating it respectfully, not like I know the shareholders will.

After all, when you have no consoles, you pick PC or mobile. And since most people will think the iDevice has enough graphical fidelity, most casual people will be on mobile. The same casuals that Nintendo has ALWAYS targeted. So you have to go to the platform.

Devving for mobile doesnt FORCE you to use shitty currently used mobile practices. There isn't anything inherent about the touchscreen form that forces you to do that; thats just how the culture is right now, unfortunately. But with smart enough designers treating it respectfully, that could change. It's not impossible to dev a good game for mobile. And consoles are dying. So we just need someone to dev good games for mobile.
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>>256064172
Google is your friend.
Do you think your biased point you are trying to make matters to anyone? This is the internet, I will only spend time satisfying my addiction to laugh at mad people like yourself, I won't do research for you, I am sorry.
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>>256064065
>>256064305

But nobody was ever positive about the PS3 on /v/. Trolls have been saying nogaems for almost a decade now. Think about that for a second. Once the newfags invaded and took the trolls seriously, it became impossible to like the PS3. It's still hard to like it without being called a weeaboo. And if you try to tell anyone about free online, multiplats, and exclusives, they'll just repeat the nogaems mantra.

There are people here who actually think the PS3 had a shitty launch from a games perspective.
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>>256060570
>Also another big difference is that Capcom and Squeenix are third party devs and don't create hardware. They don't jeopardize sales of their hardware by making mobile games.

This what half of these pro-mobile fags don't get. Nintendo ports games on the mobile is like Microsoft porting games into the PC. They can't go all out or the message is that Nintendo/Microsoft will drop the xbox/handhelds.
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Anyone has posted this?
http://biz-journal.jp/2014/08/post_5585.html

https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/495429648772108290
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>>256064336
a shitton of people play LoL and neckbeards are by definition a minority; a minority too small for LoL only. Maybe people who play it competitively are neckbeards, but the general populace? no way
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>you were alive long enough to see Nintendo become just as bad as everyone else, not through incompetence or ignorance like the way things are now, but through the simple desire for more money at any cost
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>>256064282
I'm not going to spoonfeed you child. You are capable of reading. I even provided you a source. Now you can do yourself the favor and read it
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>>256064143
>Mario
>Mario
>Mario
>Shovelware
>Shovelware
>Shovelware
>Japan only
>Japan only
>Japan only

Sure is a fun list
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a mario game for android/ios is almost inevitable at this point
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>>256052991
Iwata's side, of course.
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>>256064553

Literally everyone who plays Laughing out Loud is a neckbeard, sorry to break it to you
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>>256063904
>>256064079
>>256064158
I thought it was fucking obvious I meant to be ironic
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>>256064581
That's not supporting your argument. This is your argument, not mine.

Citing evidence isn't spoonfeeding. Clearly you're not old enough to have written an essay at a high school level.
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>>256064689
Huehuehue
You're not even reading it
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>>256057910

Currently it's tied to both the account and the actual console. Remember the 3DS didn't get the NNID until recently.

It's likely something that's going to resolved with their next console and handheld and it's going to still be NNID.
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>>256063684
You're bound to get some good replies with this one, fellow Anti-Nintendo Bro. Down with Nintendo!
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Good for Iwata. He wants Nintendo to stay how it always has been. Develop licensed games for their systems and closely watch how it's all done. They don't want to let this all loose on smartphones.
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>>256052991
What if Nintendo makes a handheld/console hybrid? Basically one device that doubles as a handheld and a console when necessary?
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>>256063791
now all we need is

>Super Mario Sunshine 2
>Super Mario Universe/Dimensions for WiiU/3DS
>Super Mario Jungle
>Super Mario Atlantis
>Super Mario Egypt
and we are good to go
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>>256064840
i did
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>>256064460
>Taking NOGAEMS seriously

What a fucking drone.
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>>256052991
if I had invested money on Nintendo?

CEOs side hands down
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>>256062748

Unless you are in the pockets of Nintendo, theres no reason to be against going mobile.

If touch screen controls are so bad, just sell a peripheral controller made of Nintendium. Problem solved.

If Nintendo went mobile, they would have to compete with the prices of mobile games. Nintendo would rather propietarize their games to a shitty handheld than make games and VC for a better one. They will never do this because they are so Jewish. Look at Wii U/3DS VC. It doesnt even allow crossbuy. You wanna play Megaman on both hardwares, you have to pay for the same game twice. You cant just download the thing you bought on the other.

Hardware sales over the past three gens indicate the market is moving away from gaming handhelds and consoles, yet Nintendo wants to maintain the corporate bloat they accumulated from the Wii era. Sure nintoddlers think its cool Nintendos not cutting jobs but when youre sitting on $82billion and arent making the games your fans want it shows you'd rather hoard and invest it than make a quality product.

After all, with that much money whats the big deal in dropping a few milion on a Metroid that can guarantee preorders? Nintendos trying too hard to play it safe.
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Not even the best smarthphones and the top notch tablets are popular among the consumers, the consumers like shit, i have seen tablets that its only drawback is the stupid touch screen because they can run complex and expansive PC quality games but people prefer to buy 2d supert nintendo quality bullshit whit micro transactions.
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>>256064370
everyone hates aonuma faggot
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>>256064567
But that hasn't happened, Neogaf.

No matter how many articles you post it won't make it come true.
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>>256064840
There are six new IPs on that list. Six.
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>>256064460
Are you high? Any thread on /v/ gets fucking flooded with "Sony wins again" bullshit, no matter what.
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>>256064967
see >>256060946

NEVER EVER
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>tfw I have screencapped all the anti-Nintendo posts of this thread
>tfw in 5 years I will be posting them alongside side the rest anti-NIntendo posts of the last 25 years to make fan of the haters.

Feels good man
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>>256059904
Yeah, but it wasn't listed on the stock exchange till whenever the faggot was born
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>>256064829
No, spoonfeeding you would be listing everything off that list for you

We aren't writing a fucking essay here son, I ain't your teacher, and if you were my student, I'd let your parents know how fucking retarded you are
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>>256064903
SMS 2 would be good though.

Every mario game in the past like 5 years has been mediocre or trash.
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>>256052991
i support Iwata

if Nintendo games were on smartphones you would instantly see a decrease in quality of games

sorry i dont follow the epic pop culture trends on twitter but this is how i feel
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>>256065006
Only the faggots you're echoing.

You don't even know why you hate him, do you, you pathetic piece of shit.
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>>256065029
And thats bad...how?
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>>256065052
You have no idea what sony funposting is do you?
Are you honestly this gullible to believe the people who make those threads are serious?
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>>256065092

>Devs went mobile and cut corners on their games and made fans mad with pay2win options

>Games made no money

>MOBILE NEVER WERKS XDDDDD

k
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>>256065029
Are you implying that's not a lot for one company in 2 years?
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>>256065127
You can write a book with all the stuff psotes in these years.
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>>256053618
More like he's the only one keeping it relevant and afloat.
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>>256062969
the technology maybe, but certainly not the hardware :^)
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>>256064130
>Mario actually rehashes its gameplay

You could make SM64, sunshine, galaxy and 3D world with different aesthetics and different protagonists and nobody would ever think they are the same thing
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>>256065215
Until you play them of course.
SMG2 is the best mario game ever made. You just need to remove your nostalgia glasses.
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>>256065127
>still being on /v/ in 5 years
>screencaping shit to "win" an online argument
>feels good

you must lead a sad sad life
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>>256065127
>Seriously partake in a console war bullshit instead doing it for fun

How's that autism treating you?
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Nintendo wouldn't be here in the first place if they realized that their casuals left for smartphones and tablets and to make the Wii U not shit.
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>>256065435
I said 5 years, I was off by one.

SMG 2 was the last good one.
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>>256065210
>No, spoonfeeding you would be listing everything off that list for you

I was asking for new IPs. If you were to list off everything that would only illustrate a lack of reading comprehension.

>We aren't writing a fucking essay here son, I ain't your teacher
Why do you keep referring to me as kid, son, etc.? Just how old are you? Do you realise that this isn't about schooling, it's about the basic standards of rhetoric and discourse.

>I'd let your parents know how fucking retarded you are
Sentences end with a period.
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The Board ALWAYS gets their way. So do Investors. If they want NIntendo IPs on mobile gaming they will get it because Nintendo IP's are prolific. They are known everywhere and it will make money. This is the market. if you don't adapt you die off.
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>>256065285
Dude that's shitposting. It's not inciting meaningful discussion, it comes off as inflammatory console war shit.

It goes both ways.
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>>256065246
Aonuma pls.

Nobody likes you.
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Not a fan of their hardware, but a fan of their games, and I understand how their business model work they invest on games to sell the systems, a key reason they are invest s loy on a game's budget and development. They don't depend on the sales being good if it pulls new people to the systems it's a success.
Thanks that we get niche games from them. Bayonetta 2 wouldn't have happened if they weren't pumping money to sell systems.


I could see them changing to a different business model and focusing on fewer but better games instead and that could work too but historically companies always have a hard time through sudden radical changes in their business methods so that wouldn't be a nice transition.

Iwata does get that, and how Nintendo's game development works, those are his benefits.

But he is too focused on those things he can't see the rest of the bigger picture.
So under his leadership Nintendo has been focusing only on being Nintendo, and has stagnated, failed to adapt and branch out, and be proactive.
The same formula can't work forever, some small changes need to be made.
And Nintendo is a static company under Iwata.
That is his weakness.
Just like the N64 failed to go with discs before and that hurt it so much now the WiiU stuck with powerpc, bad move, it's now getting less multiplats due to development issues.
Nintendo's neglect of online has also been a heavy downfall for them, multiplayer used to be one of Nintendo's strengths but failure to adapt to the way that is handled in the industry now has led it to become a weakness, Nintendo is perceived as single player or party games only now and that is a very bad spot, they slowly have made efforts to fix that but they are clearly small efforts and no big push to improve their online strength.

They really need someone with knowledge about the industry to help with advice.
It worked out great for Sony with Mark Cerny, maybe having a knowledgeable gaijin around would also help Nintendo too.
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>>256064903
>SMS2
shit, and i forgot Splatoon is based on Sunshine.

i would buy 3 WiiUs and 5 copies if this is announced.
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>>256065446
Thanks another screencap :D
Keep it coming
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>>256065517
>>256065435
Also, it CERTAINLY isn't the best mario game. It's pretty good but it's not the best.
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>>256065474
>console war shitposting
>fun

Just how miserable is your life?
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>>256064967
>If Nintendo went mobile, they would have to compete with the prices of mobile games. Nintendo would rather propietarize their games to a shitty handheld than make games and VC for a better one. They will never do this because they are so Jewish.
Because paying $40~$60 for a full experience is much more jewish than paying $10 every time you want to advance a level or make an upgrade in-game right?
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>>256065127
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>>256065303

What on earth are you on about? Before that the bigger names in the industry like Square Enix went full force with full titles and got bowled over by cheapo match 3 and angry birds game.

Square made the sequel to Final Fantasy IV a mobile game first and the first prequel to Final Fantasy VII a mobile game and it didn't work.

Now they're just porting over games and making stuff like All the Bravest.
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>>256065517
You must have forgotten NSMBU and 3D World, because they're both better than the Galaxy games.
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>>256065474
Are you an idiot. I obviously only use the screencaps for shit posting.
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>>256063719

>Weeaboo games
>Right choice
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>>256058092
>Invests in a video game company
>Thinks video games are a waste.

All investors like this need to just die. Why invest in anything you have no actual interest in and know nothing about.
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>>256065253
Are you fucking kidding me? That's from 2012 to announced for 2015, out of 54 titles.

Yes, that's atrocious.
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>>256065738
3D World is mediocre

NSMBU looks to be the same as the rest of the NSMB series, which is ok, but not really good.
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>>256065210
Not that anon, but what the fuck?

That's like feminist level of argument there.
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>>256065553
Yes it's all shitposting and I hate it so fucking much. /vg/ doesn't have enough generals to keep me off of here
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>>256065092
That post is wrong.
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>>256065681
>America in a nutshell
not surpirsed
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>>256065127
care to post some as a preview? thread is almost dying
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