Can we get a weapons that don't have enough exposure in video games?
I don't remember the last time I saw a flail or a morningstar in a video game.
Agreed, last time I saw a flail was in Ninja Gaiden, in fact Ninja Gaiden had a lot of weapons that were awesome, be back gonna go replay that.
Souls games have morningstars, definitely needs more representation though. Flails, especially like those in the OP are a lot less common and it's a shame. I'd love more fist/claw weapons, though they're a bit more common than those already mentioned.
>you will never be able to dual wield a sword an flail like the witch king
The diablo 3 expansion added flails with the new class, but they're the only ones who can use them for some reason.
They're also not fun to use as every weapon functions the same way, ie a statstick.
Pro-tip: if the chain is long enough that you can hit yourself with the flail head then it's probably not a historical weapon.
Pic is what a real flail looks like.
You know it, son.
Is there any other game that you can wield a scythe other than Ninja Gaiden, Dante's Inferno or death jr?
not that hard faggot
You could probably still hit yourself with that.
I wouldn't want to use a weapon that had such a large degree of flex in it, a big spiky ball on the end of some chain is just asking for you to injure yourself.
Ninja Gaiden not only had a lot of unique weapons. but also made sure they were all badass
Not enough powder core games around. Imagine reloading is a mini game and doing it wrong can result in the thing going off in your hand.
>Completing the Ultimate Ninja co-op mission with lag
That shit was suffering. Getting the Plat was fun but NG2 has more enemies on screen, is way harder and the gore looks awesome.
>having one of these in your pocket in SS13
99% of swords in vidya have wide, flat blades and sweeping attack animations.
You can't easily hit yourself with it because the chain isn't long enough. You'd have to be major retard to do so. Also, it's primarily a cavalry weapon. You swing it from horseback at people below you. Infantry flails looked more like this.
I keep a flail under my bed in case people break in
Was it something like this?
>tfw no anvil-flail
I kill everyone of these hoping for a drop.
>thrusting swords are too straight-forward
Also, games need more flame-bladed weapons, especially thrusting swords.
Just thrusting animations would make me happier
Why is it so hard to not just flail arms around with a sword for devs to make? Maybe thrusting makes them think of sex and how gay it is to thrust their weaponized phalluses on other people
But thats wrong you fucking pleb.
>not tripping your opponent
>not slicing across to keep him away (yes, some spear tips can do this)
>not blocking with the shaft
>not knocking him with the blunt end
>not wanting to just stab the fuck out of some pissy little swordfag
>Not a good game
Son, were you kicked in the head by a horse, or did your parents throw you at a wall to see if your stupid ass actually bounced?
>Raphael in any Soul Calibur game.
His weapons are way too short though and his style of fencing doesn't really resemble rapier fencing.
>implying you can tell my nationality any more than you can tell the colour of my skin by the way i write the word cheque or calibre
i bet you don't even have your own lorry, m8.
those glass blades are extremely sharp, way sharper than a metal edge, but it's still not enought to behead a horse in one strike.
You could probably behead a horse after hitting it with that thing a few times though.
It looked like this.
I ain't even joking, had a spear pommel
While they weren't used much on swords, arming spikes were really common on some other weapons. Especially long spears, because they also helped serve as a counterweight to balance the weapon.
I want more axes dammit! And not those silly anime-esque axes, but proper, badass axes.
Alos, does this axe remind anyone else of the scythe from Buffy?
That sword (unless it's a fantasy-überforged-by-dragon-dick-smith durrrr) is just begging to be broken upon a slightly misaimed strike.. Some fantasy weapons really are retarded..
It's because swinging a sword around looks more actiony and heroic. I just want more games that can do the kind of high-speed high-precision back and forth that you get in fencing.
obsidian can cut through flesh like butter. can also be cut very easily to be sharper than a surgeons scalpel. however it breaks easily and is relatively useless against any kind of armor.
They also said they weren't going to kill all the natives
Hand crafted obsidian blades were not "way sharper than a metal edge". Slightly, maybe, but even then the brittleness of the obsidian made it rather useless for practical application. You wouldn't be able to hit anything more than a few times with a Macuahuitl because all the blades would break. It was even more of a ceremonial weapon and status piece than metal swords were in europe and japan.
I'm still baffled that this didn't have axes
I was dissapointed by that weapon in SR2.
I don't know what I was expecting, a bigger explosion or more carnage but essentially it was a chainsaw without the satisfaction of getting up close and personal.
In the screenshot that the weapon was featured in, the woman looked like she was stabbing herself with the "may be sharp?" bit.
of course people here are too much of a filthy casual to learn easy fighting games
>Your reach advantage allows you to keep them the fuck at bay.
Your reach advantage wont last very long, you can't slash very well, trying to trip someone with a spear will fail too, and once you miss with a spear, they will run past the dangerous end and you're basically fucked at that point.
Spears are not good weapons outside formations, you're a fucking moron if you think otherwise. Even fucking spartans and romans ditched the spears if they broke the formation.
That's just the newer versions of the nightstick (the old ones were kinda brutal, I think that's why they changed to the newer ones - correct me if I'm wrong, I know you guys love that), not sure if they are the same.
It's a well known fact obsidian is very sharp and very brittle.
But it doesn't matter what the fuck it's made out of, it's the wooden parts that will make beheading a horse fucking impossible.
Unless you use the sword as a saw, and the horse is dead.
You're acting like a spear is some slow piece of shit, and you're also acting like the enemy doesn't care about being hit. General rule of thumb- unless one combatant is completely fucking insane, they're both going to play it safe in a fight.
Africa is the edgy JRPG boss of real life weapon design.
isn't the flail one of the most unwieldy and difficult weapons to use? it would seem to catch on everything and you could easily lose hold of it. Seems like an axe of mace would be superior in most cases.
The Ahlspiess was quite the nasty weapon.
>using fancy pants, magic moon telescopes to look at folded katanas
There is impractical and then there is Bioware-retarded.
at least im not this retarded
>"Sword", armor, and top dripping with blood
>Not even a drop on her skin or hair
Tonfa are generally used in pairs and used to add power to elbow strikes, GTA has a singular nightstick which are used as a baton.
Forgot about this, it's been quite a while since i played NG.
It depends on where you draw the line. As I said, rapiers are usually much longer.
During the early days of rapiers, when these weapons developed from the side-swords (pic), you might have found weapons that had a ricasso and more elaborate guards than regular arming swords, but these were also more used like regular arming swords.
As >>255945973 said, Raphael's style of fencing seems more inspired by modern sabre fencing.
From a little bit of this that I read it seems that a flails most logical use would be to swing it over an opponent using a shield. Since the chain can wrap around the shield and strike the person.
But yes it was likely not very practical and only useful for a certain tactic. Like many weapons back then and even today.
Well, it's technically not a sword. It's just a huge metal spike. It also has a nice guard.
Well, the people who designed his move set must have gotten their inspiration from somewhere and that somewhere must have been modern sabre fencing rather than a historical manual on rapier fencing.
The point of a rapier is to be flexible and snake its way to weak points following the path of least resistance
This is a big fucking spike that you use to stab big fucking holes in stuff
Technically, Smash Bros and Mortal Kombat. Still unlikely.
>tfw no vidya were you can wreck shit with a parasol sword
Is there a game with an axe flamethrower?
>You seem to underestimate how easy it is to control where a spear goes with two hands
You seem to overestimate the lethality of a spear, only the point is lethal, and once your opponent gets past that, your spear is useless.
You know you can just pull it back, right?
Also some spears can cut decently, or have spikes on the back. Plus beating someone with a stick will still fuck with them, it's not like everyone is in plate.
Nothing beats ROCKS.
You can get ROCKS pretty much anywhere. FOR FREE.
ROCKS have been a blunt force weapon of choice since the dawn of man.
If you're without a ROCK, there's always a ROCK close by.
The ROCK comes in all shapes and sizes. Some are even sharp!
Takes zero practice. Just grasp the ROCK firmly, and bash in the skull of your foe.
ROCK too big to pick up? Bash his skull into the ROCK.
Why don't you have a ROCK?!
>I can discern the purpose of everything in this image apart from the bottom one. How would you even use that?
It's actually a non-lethal grappling weapon. How it works you swat your enemy with it, they will be wary of it, and then you use your free hand to take a grip on them, and force them stomach down on your lap, and then you spank their silly bottom with it.
I want more sledgehammers and slamming weapons in general.
Every single cunt thinks about swords and axes, but never about muh whacking thingies.
> squishing someone in the fucking floor in souls games
> caving in someone's face in M&B
> breaking someone's legs in Fallouts
> mashing off someone's head in POSTAL2
> implying hammers are not satisfying as fuck
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Apparently a lot of the time if a warrior didn't have any material wealth or cattle he'd give his wife his weapon as a wedding gift. This, in time, became their primary purpose, and the dicks were supposed to act as a fertility blessing.
It was the only good part of DS2
What the fuck, /v/?
>Delicious forward-curving swords
Well, yeah, that's when you'd move your hands further down the shaft so you got a range advantage
Not saying it's the best weapon but it's capable
How much damage can you do with a slingshot and a stone/lead ball?
I still don't know how a kopesh works. Just what enticed Egyptians to make a curved sword like that?
I see you missed all the slightly inwards pointing spikes that will tear your flesh as you pull on them in the picture, let me help you
>Not saying it's the best weapon but it's capable
A rock is not the best weapon, but it's capable.
Spears just aren't very good outside other spears in a formation.
Obsoleted by magical marital handfire.
Remember that rumor that said DaS would have a flying guillotine?
> motherfucking anvil
> chained to a fucking stick
It made me buy this game just to swing it around.
Completely justified, no remorse.
Aw shit son
> all those flying EDF soldiers
> all those debris
> you can flip over cars with it
> the only weapon you may need to accompany it is vacuum rocket launcher
it's actually a decent sword m8. especially good for hacking, since the center of gravity is in front of the handle, effectively carrying the blade through whatever you're cutting at. think of it like an axe with a long ass blade.
>there will never be a realistic weapon simulator that recreates the amount and type of damage any of these weapons would inflict
>instead all we get are floating numbers of splashy effects
I have a pulley slingshot that shot a hole trough my friend's Saab.
It folds into itself too, absolutely impossible to tell what it's supposed to be when folded, police have never tried to confiscate it from me, whenever they search me.
And let me point out what everyone here missed.
>implying you need that heavy and impractical piece of shit
If you want to evenly spread impact energy so very much, hit them with a mattress or something
>That sexy ass kopesh
They're hacking weapons. A curved blade like that gives greater cutting power, while being a bit sturdier than what you would usually see with a cutlass or katana, which is important because they were generally made of shitty material (at least, compared to more modern steel)
They have a really thick spine too, to make sure they don't just fall apart.
Check out Joerg Sprave on youtube if you're interested in seeing some of the damage slingshots can inflict. He makes lots of silly weapons with slingshot concepts, but has quite a few videos just using pretty standard slingshots.
You're thinking the wrong side is sharp. The convex side is sharp, the concave side is a thick, almost tube of brass designed to hold the thing together when whacking people with it.
It's a historical fact that swords beat spears.
Some jackass on youtube speaking of his experience will not change that.
Swords beat spears and longbows beat swords, deal with it, nerd.
I remember Runescape having a flail that I really liked using
Then the game became cash shop cancer and they made the flail look like a terrible generic MMO thing instead of an actual flail
Man that game got so much worse so incredibly fast
>People kept using spears for hundreds and hundreds of years just because they felt like it, even though they were clearly inferior
>Swords and spears lasted longer than bows in warfare even though bows made them obsolete
>With something that short
>In ancient egypt
Dwarf fortress sure as hell ain't realistic, but it's interesting to watch.
>The dwarf strikes the goblin in the head with the Silver Mace and the injured part explodes into gore!
Are there any games that let you half sword?
On the topic of Forward curving blades.
The only time I've seen one of these in a game was the slate swords / daggers in the TESO beta.
I bought a Nepalese one a few months back and it's wieldy as fuck while feeling as though you could splt someone's skull with it.
> forward-curved blades
I want it back in DaS2
It was so good at slamming
Let's hope that the 2nd DLC delivers it since it's Iron King related
I know its not technically lethal and shit but I'm a big fan of trapping weapons in games. Best I can remember is the lasso in RDR and thats about it. Don't know of any games with these fuckers in em
>>People kept using spears for hundreds and hundreds of years just because they felt like it, even though they were clearly inferior
It's because spears are cheaper to make.
It's no fucking wonder why low-trained footmen had spears, it's because they weren't good enough to have swords, the only goddamn thing they had going for them is their numbers.
>Swords and spears lasted longer than bows in warfare even though bows made them obsolete
No, bows never obsoleted swords and spears, the only goddamn reason medieval wars weren't just bowmen vs. bowmen was the fact bows required a shitload of training and were much harder to use than pointy stick and other various melee weapons.
The reason the british dominated the french in Agincourt was because King Henry V made it mandatory for british people to train with longbows from when they were old enough to fire a training bow.
And even then Bows have disadvantages that don't make them the best weapons ever.
Try out Just Cause 2
There is a fucking hook that lets you hook up anything to anything, BOLOpatch heavily recommended for infinite indestructible ropes.
> hooking up statue head to helicopter
> dropping that on some shitty colonel
> hooking up 10 soldiers to your helicopter
> throw helicopter in the building
That might have sounded like "epic lulz" in your head, but it came out annoying and retarded.
I pray for your sake, you were trying to ironically shitpost, but you might just be too autistic to realize how fucking stupid that post was, and don't you fucking dare claim you were just pretending to be retarded.
Dark Sector was a good game.
Has anyone in the history of Elder Scrolls, EVER used glass weapons as a main?
I mean they're powerful, but they're fucking stupid as shit.
>The reason the british dominated the french in Agincourt was because King Henry V made it mandatory for british people to train with longbows from when they were old enough to fire a training bow.
Why didn't every country mandate longbow training then?
Oh yeah forgot about the physics defying grapple. Yeah I played it on the 360 and got it for PC when I heard about the mods and multiplayer
Too bad all I have is a laptop that cant run it
>All british men required to own swords
>Still used pole arms in battle because... reasons.
How's this for a sword?
wasnt even me posting but seriously how many sonic autism threads are incredibly common. If youve been here for any length of time you should have heard the fucking *unsheathes katana* shit
Shame that there's like no games with grappling hooks.
Lazy-ass jap developers. Although I can explain that as clean part of a blade never hit anything.
But most likely it's just lazy-ass jap developers.
It still is an awesome weapon.
heh He Man, yeah but I mean it just feels satisfying when youve got enemies fleeing for their lives and you lob one of these at them and tangles around their legs and they just ragdoll like shit cuz they got stopped in their tracks
Arkham series have grappling hooks
and all the games that do have grapples have incredibly limited spots where you can use them. Although zelda twp with those dual grapples in the air temple. pant-jizzingly good
more bark than bite
yeah they hurt, but they are more of a distraction than a weapon
youre better off with pic related
>Thinks people used known inferior weapons for hundreds of years
>Calls other people retarded.
Why didn't they protect musket formations with swordsmen instead of pikemen? After all, swords beat pikes, right? Should have just given them swords and called it a day.
Basically, weeaboos like to ignore the fact that Yuro swordmaking was significantly better than Nip swordmaking for thousands of years.
Or, as Lindy puts it, "Katan plonkers".
huh I'll have to try that out. Also idk how many times I played the hoth level in battlefront and spent the entire time grappling the AT AT's. God I hope the next battlefront is even half as good as the old games
Apparently the British army was much more supportive of the idea of Gurkhas after seeing what these could do to an Indian guy. It's a scary as fuck weapon to be sure, used by scary as fuck soldiers.
>Why didn't they protect musket formations with swordsmen instead of pikemen?
Bitch, are you calling bayonet a fucking pike?
>After all, swords beat pikes, right? Should have just given them swords and called it a day.
Musketeers had fucking swords, you mongoloid and after that they had bayonets.
You really are irredeemably retarded.
That's not a morningstar, that's a flail. A morningstar is a particular design of club. I suppose you could say that the thing in your picture is a morningstar flail, people would know what you're talking about, but the important part is it's on a chain.
>Hit a guy in full plate armour with a sword
>Do fuck all
>Hit a guy in full plate armour with a polearm
>Daze him, wound him, knock him out, knock his armour off or any combination of the above
>Do all this from several feet further away
Dude, the blade itself gets much thinner than a metal one and thus is sharper because it can more easily separate. Yeah its still gonna break super easily but the whole point of Aztec warfare was to maim so that they would have sacrifices rather than to kill.
It's a hammer.
It doesn't matter at what angle it hits because it's a hammer, it will never bounce or slide off.
Also causes rupturing, broken bones and internal bleeding even when hit through armor.
Sandniggers mastered folding metal for flexible swords, as seen on the kopesh during bronze age.
Japanese are using bronzeage arab techniques to make do with the inferior iron they had.
6 seconds of googling later.
10 seconds of googling and you might even find out the backstory behind this.
Celts had decent swordsmaking before the nips. The Japanese couldn't beat out Britbongs even while Britain was a shithole of people living in their own shit and fucking goats.
>Doesn't know about pike and shot formations
Oh man, my sides are just done. I can't take this anymore.
Because then you'd understand what I'm talking about. I assume by the fact that you asked, that you're interested in what I'm talking about, so I suggested you use the magical internet tool of google, which could probably tell you a lot more quickly and clearly what's going on than I could.
>Implying I'm the retard who thinks "swords>pikes"
Yeah. Pikes fucking wrecked charging infantry, since they basically meant attacking with impunity if the other person hadn't thought to bring one. That's why they tended to bring both, jab it out with pike for a while, then go in with the swords. There were swords designed for parrying pikes to penetrate formations, but those were used IN CONJUNCTION WITH PIKE FORMATIONS.
You didn't just have a bunch of guys with swords run in and fuck up a bunch of people with pikes. You had pike formations that had a couple guys in them with giant swords whose job it was to fuck with the other guy's pikes.
obsoleted by bayonets, as mentioned.
Also, we've gone full circle in this chain, it started with someone swearing on spearing, and I said spears are useless outside formations, and lo and behold, someone argues for the spear, using a formation as an example.
Anyway, we've gone from hundred year war to Italian wars, I think it's good place to stop.
>Did not happen
It took a while for bayonets to develop, and that only happened after some major improvements to firearms. Before that, you had a rank of infantry with pikes defending units with primitive muskets.
It's clear you've never actually seen someone with talent in a spear fight with one. A pike is a formation weapon. A spear can be used for anything depending on its length.
Educate yourself, pleb.
>Which is also the reason the british were the very first to jump at them
Well, it's no coincidence they said chivalry died during the battle of Agincourt, so you're right about that.
But who were the real betas, the british ranged campers or the french fedora knights?
Wait, so now you're talking about a period during which full plate armour was largely obsolete and polearms weren't used? How on earth does your post have anything to do with the one you replied to?
Did you reply to the wrong person?
Spears and polearms are better in formations, but people actually did one on one duels with them (generally without a point)
Of course, you could say that about most weapons. One dude with a longbow does jack shit. One horseman will just get fucking prison shanked by any infantry. A single swordsman will be sodomized with spears.
I was arguing with they guy who seemed to think that the only reason to use a spear was for lack of a sword and/or the training to use one.
>Spears and polearms are better in formations, but people actually did one on one duels with them (generally without a point)
yes, but on one-on-one combat, a spear is more of a hindarance against someone using a sword for example, or anything.
I was specifically talking about spears in a one-on-one match. No one is retarded enough to believe that swords were superior to swords in a battlefield situation. Spears give you initiative, which in an infantry fight is critical to ensuring you don't get shived in the gut by some smelly douchebag from the next village over.
The first bayonets didn't appear until 1670ish. Long after the conclusion of the Italian Wars. Pike and Shot was invalidated by the increasing reliability and economic costs of just raising regimented of line infantry. More firepower that way to devastate enemy formations.
The game changes with or without armor. Without armor the spear is just as, if not more deadly because it can reach out and hit you from almost twice as far away. It gives you the alpha and forces you opponent to be defensive until he can find an opening. With armor the sword generally has a bit of an advantage because its more difficult for a spear to pierce armor than from a sword to just walk up and thump you in the head with the pommel.
If it's just sword vs just pike, then... yeah, the swordsman has an advantage. If the pike guy also brings a sword though he's at an advantage.
Either way it's stupid, because "deadliest warrior" style matchups of "WHICH ARE TEH BETTER WEPUN" are inherently retarded.
>Which wins in a fight? An tank, or a submarine? FIND OUT NEXT
No because he's right. Although some of those tricks like tripping and shit won't work against a similarly skilled opponent and will just get you a mace in the face. Otherwise all of that stuff is accurate, but it typically isn't western spearfighting. Shit like weaponized kung-fu and what not using the spear like that is common and well trained.
Kusarigama, a trapping and killing weapon. Smack your opponent a few times with the ball at the end of a chain, whip it around his sword speak throw him off balance, tangle up his arms and use the sickle to go right for the throat.
a boat anchor, the old ones. i dont care how impractical they are, they're cool
I never understood how someone could use a mace. Try spinning something like a phone charger and if you try to stop it usually it'll hit your hand as it stops so with a mace it must hurt like fuck