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Who else is going to get the Gamestop credit card so they can buy a PS4?
http://www.destructoid.com/gamestop-to-roll-out-a-credit-card-with-a-really-high-interest-rate-278712.phtml
>GameStop is set to offer its own credit card to customers that ties directly into the company's PowerUp Rewards program, according to anonymous sources. We obtained photographs that outline the details of the card showing that the primary incentive for signing up is 5,000 bonus points for PowerUp Basic members and 15,000 bonus points for PowerUp Pro members. Also noted are exclusive offers to cardholders.
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>>255295869
>buying a PS4
>not getting an xbox one
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>financing a $50 video game
idiots, idiots everywhere
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>>255295869

>26.99%

they might as well hold a gun to your face while they're at it
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>>255296337
gr8 b8 m8
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>26.99%
Worst part about this insanity is that someone will actually get and use this shit.
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>>255297828
Building credit is a good thing, as long as you pay the bill in full each month to avoid interest payment charges.
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>>255295869
>buy a PS4
lol
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>>255298000
You expect modern teens to be responsible with a credit card?

Oh laws
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>>255298259
The CARD Act of 2009 prohibits issuers from issuing credit cards to people under 21 if they can't prove they have decent income.
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Wow, Gamestop actually is evil.
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>15,000 power up points
Thats like not even a keychain
>26.99%
People will get it just to look like a gamer and gamestop knows people are stupid enough to for that reason alone
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>>255297828
my credit card is almost that high
but i pay it off within days of use anyway
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>>255298158
Isnt 27% pretty normal for a starter credit card?

Thats what like, 3% a a month? 3$ on every hundred you borrow doesnt seem like that much unless you are some sort of retard, or i have no idea what im talking about.

Thats still like 10x cheaper than a rent to own place.
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>27%

Who in the holy hell would sign up for something like this.
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How do credit cards even work? I'm 20 and have no credit. Does it immediately garner interest for each purchase or does the interest rate only go into affect if you don't pay the bill on time.
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>26.99%

Fuck that god damn

Mines 4.99% and jumps to 16% next year before staying there. That's fuckin it.
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>>255298535
Don't even consider that shit bro.
Save money instead. You do not want to get in debt with that kind of interest.
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>>255298535
each purchase, if you don't pay off the interest you'll get into some serious debt though
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>>255298535

The latter.
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>>255298535
Basically its a loan shark inside of a plastic card.
>Want to buy 4000 dollar couch
>Use credit card
>Pay off increments of the couch each months
>Miss a payment and they take your house
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>>255298535
>annual

12 months in a year

Divide the APR by 12 and add that percentage to your bill at the end of the month. You only have to pay off whatever the recurring debt is, the problem is when you have like 3k on your card and every month you are paying hundreds on just interest because you are stupid.
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>>255298535

Interest is calculated when you carry a balance from one month to the next. If you pay the bill IN FULL so that you carry over $0 each month, you never pay interest.
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>>255298535
>How do credit cards even work? I'm 20 and have no credit. Does it immediately garner interest for each purchase or does the interest rate only go into affect if you don't pay the bill on time.

If you pay the bill in full each month: No interest
If you don't pay the entire bill and only pay the minimum, or more than the minimum but less than the full amount: As long as you're carrying some balance, purchases will start to accrue interest charges on a daily basis.
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>>255295869
>26.99%
Are you kidding me? God this is straight from Israel type of jewery
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>>255298684
>>255298741
>>255298749
Nigga that sounds awful
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ITT: Kids that don't understand credit cards.
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>>255298535
You use it to buy stuff and at the end of the month you'll get a bill. You can choose if you pay the bill or not, but the more you delay the payment the more intrest your dept will gather.
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>>255298837
it's more like miss a payment and you owe them another thousand dollars. the only people i know who don't regularly pay at least some of their owing debt are ones who just juggle cards.
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>>255298684
Building credit is important, though. Just make sure you don't buy anything with your card that you won't be able to pay off within the grace period.
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Someone post that story about the guy using gamestop preorders as a bank.
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>>255298640

4.99% APR? Are you sure about that? Sounds like a monthly rate.
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Man I'm glad I dont live in the glorious US of A.
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>>255298912

Miss you Gus.
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>got credit card when I was 13
>always paid in full
>eight years later and never missed a payment
>keep turning down limit increases cause they're just getting ridiculous
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>>255295869
why'd I want to get a loan card?
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>>255295869
>26.99%
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>>255295869
Who buys a games console on credit?
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>ITT: People who don't understand credit cards.

Although it is stupid for them to have a credit card unless they got mad rewards for it.
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>>255299072
He said its an intro rate. So he gets like 5% for a few years then it jumps to a normal rate.
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>>255299120

13 year olds aren't allowed to have credit cards.
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>>255299072
Its typically reserved for insanely rich people with a lot of available cash, but yeah you get APR's like that.
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>>255299139
Gamestop's card is shit, but most credit cards give decent rewards, good benefits (e.g. free extended warranty), and build your credit rating (has credit/non-credit implications) while strengthening consumer protections.

And you'll pay no interest if you pay the bill in full each month - meaning the price is the same as debit or cash for you.
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>>255298927
I grew up in a house where my parents only ever paid in cash.
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this is dumb because it's 2014 and no one shops at game jew


what if steam had one? I'd use a steam credit card.
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>>255299120
when my first card expired i didn't realize i'd signed up for the increase, turns out they'd set me to $12k instead of the $3k i started with.
they wouldn't change it back either, so i just cancelled the card and went with another provider.
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>>255299234
I was an authorized user of one of my dads cards, then I got my own.
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>>255295869

As long as you tie it to a bank account and enroll in auto pay the card is totally worth it. You'd use it just like a debit card and get vidya discounts.

However they are banking on the retards (some of whom are in this thread) that can't keep a checking account in the black to make their money on that interest rate.
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>meanwhile at the reservation
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>>255299298

>paying interest on top of not even owning your games

fuck outta here gaben
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>>255299072
Totally serious
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>>255299198

I buy everything with my credit card and just pay it off before my bill posts. Simply a matter of convenience. If you're not a retard and you're capable of keeping track of how much you spend it's not a problem. The problem is when idiots treat credit cards like free money.
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>>255299278
And they paid higher interest rates for shit, and didn't take advantage of cash back.
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>>255299227
My brother got a best buy card for a tv or something like 4 years ago, he just keeps it paid off and goes on a free shopping spree at the end of the year.
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>>255299367
I'd poke her hontas.
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>>255299367
>116% APR
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>26.99%

Okay, I don't know anything about credit cards since I've always just used a debit card. But isn't that kind of insane?
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>Got a card when I hit 18
>Set a few recurring things on it, my phone bill, my tax, some food things I have shipped each month
>Have it so it pays off everything from my debit account
>be 21
>"Congratulations, your new credit limit is £30,000"
>will never ever need that much ever short of buying a house since I just rent, even my car is rented and everything is a 30 day rolling contract so I can quit whenever
>have £20k in my bank to back up any purchase
>still scared insane of debt, like, the debt monster keeps me up at night with it's giant dick in me
>it's circumsised
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>>255299367
So like, do you have to give them your first born for a house loan?
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>>255299198
American Express gave me 90 days accidental damage coverage and a year extra warranty on my Wii U, a little cashback, all at no extra cost (no interest charged since I paid it in full).
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>>255299367

>116% APR

Holy Jesus
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>>255299460
my brother in law does that too, he says it works out really well. he gets a much better return policy at bestbuy too, so everyone has him make their big purchases there and then they pay him for them.
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>>255299557
27% is subprime. To be expected when they're preapproving any powerup rewards member though.

Who knows, it might have decent in store promotions. Macys store card has a similar APR but great fucking discounts if you like shopping there.
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>>255299367
>$5000 loan
>84 monthly payments of $486
>People will pay fucking $40,000 for $5000

how are people this dumb

how do they even remember to breath
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Only a goddamn retard would use a debit card nowadays. You basically are admitting you are too stupid to keep track of your money.
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>this thread

It's so high because:

1) the target demographic is 17 year old mountain dew kids and they are very volatile

2) it's will primarily be used for <$100 purchases.
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>>255299367
seems native americans are the best at screwing native americans over
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>>255299557

No, it's a perfectly standard entry level or store credit card rate. Bear in mind that's 27% ANNUAL interest, not monthly.
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>>255299749
I have a credit and a debit but because I'm 20 my credit card doesn't give me any advantages really and since I've got a lot of money in the bank I just pay with my debit. Mainly because I can never remember my credit cards PIN
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>>255299739

Macys is actually a good store, though.

GameStop is not. They may just bump up the 10% trade in and pre-own buy bonuses up to 20% at the most. What a benefit.
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So if I got this card and literally only used it once what would happen.
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>>255299557
all credit cards have insane rates, that's a little crazier than most though. i'd guess the average for a new card owner is around 21%
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Ok, there are a ton of idiots, even though the picture clearly states what I'm about to say but I'll say it anyway.

That 26.99% is nothing special about a gamestop card, most cards are that high. However, YOU ONLY GET CHARGED THAT ON YOUR CARD IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR BILL FOR THAT MONTH. It doesn't actually cost you 26.99% interest just to use your credit card for everyday shit that you pay off.
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>>255299746
I've met grown adults who don't even understand the concept of negative numbers so it's not so surprising.
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>>255299863
You'd be raided by SWAT and raped while you watch your mother burn alive
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>>255299863
Seriously do you know anything about life aside from video games?
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Since you guys answered this >>255298535 guys question, can you explain to me how taxes work? I get paid in cash (i sell drugs) so do I have to pay any taxes?
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>>255299746
yeah but if you bring that $5000 to a casino you could make far more and pay it back at the same time!
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>>255299863
it would turn out you had 1 cent left to repay on the card and that amount would snowball to the size of the us national debt in a few years
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>>255299367

ALWAYS read the fine print
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>having a credit card
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>>255298489
That's not how interest works.
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>>255299367
>116%
wtf America........ wtf
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>>255299978

you have to report all income and pay taxes on it depending on how much you get.

as for illegal money, just don't be giving your banker reason to suspect lots of under the table money, ie loads of cash on a regular basis
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>>255299978
if it's undeclared income you don't have to pay taxes on it, but the irs might notice something fishy when you buy a house with cash.
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>>255299367

>116.73%
>84 monthly payments of $486.58

How is this legal
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Credit cards have 0 risk if you have the money to pay it off in its entirety at the end of the month.

The only risks involved in credit cards are it being stolen or you spending more than you have. If you treat it like a debit card and only spend what you have then you might as well get one that gets you benefits.

IF YOU HAVE A PREDISPOSITION TO ADDICTION OR THINK "I'LL PAY IT OFF LATER" OR "I TOTALLY NEED THESE SHOES" THEN DON'T GET ONE
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>>255298884
Quit spoonfeeding people.
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>>255299938
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>>255299978
Uhh, you should file income tax as self employed. But since you are a drug dealer you are probably better off staying off the grid because you probably dont know shit about money laundering.
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>>255300057
>Using a debit card online
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God I hate store credit cards. They make me feel even worse about my job whenever someone uses a Home Depot card because the interest is so goddamn high and it just takes advantage of immigrants and the elderly who don't know any better.
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>>255299978
>I get paid in cash (i sell drugs)

i want to TRASH your post but i'll respond

you're legally obligated to declare your income and pay taxes even if you deal in cash and it's illegal.

wanna know how they got al capone? tax evasion. he was doing what your scummy as is doing (although on a huge scale) but wasn't paying taxes on any of it.
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>>255295869

This is how America got completely buttfucked and dragged everyone with them.

People buying shit with money they don't have
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>>255300120
>>255300186
These sorts of payday loans are ILLEGAL in most states where people don't fuck their sisters with their fathers.
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>>255299830
27% annual compounded bi-monthly probably
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>>255299978
No. Raping and pillaging small villages is also tax-free income so you can try that

Depends if you're self employed or employed, at least in England. If you're full time employed a bit comes of your paycheck each time you get one, if you're self employed you have to tell the goverment twice a year how much you earned and then they send you a tax bill. If you earned it in cash you can keep it quiet and if you don't earn enough to warrent investigating they wont, but shit that's gone through the bank if you don't send that in the tax man will fuck your ass so hard you wish you where gay

>friend is earning 50k a year self employed
>only claims he is earning 30k a year self employed
>does this for 4 years
>gets a 100k tax bill
>has to go bankrupt

Seriously, unless it's cash in hand and small amounts its easier just to declare what you earn. Remember if you're self employed purchases like computers and fuel can be taken directly off your tax bill
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>>255300192
I'm not him, but fuck off. I'm helping people the exact way my parents helped me learn this and there are a lot of people whose parents don't teach them shit about life.
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>>255299749
>Get mugged with cash
>Lose your 100 you had on you
>Get mugged with Debit Card
>You still have your 100

Fucking retard, a debit card is basically cash
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>>255297358
Can't really get good rates when you're young.

>Have really good credit score
>Ask why I can't get better interest, or what I can do to get better interest
>"Be 25"

Ugh
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>>255300243
Wait, why shouldn't you?
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>>255300192
gr8 b8 m8
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>>255299839

>credit card
>PIN

Credit cards don't require a PIN, anon. Neither do debit cards if you run them as credit instead of debit.
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>>255300062
What part about what i said is wrong?

Whatever you dont pay off at the end of the month gets 1/12th of your APR added to it.
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>>255300328
most credit card issuers now compound interest on the average daily balance.
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>>255300293
>>255300159
>>255300136
I only make at most a few grand a month so it's probably fine, right? I pay rent and stuff in cash and don't deposit much.
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>>255300418
I'm English, all cards require PIN. atleast for physical purchases. Online ones just need that little number on the back
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>>255300418
Credit cards in Yurop do have PINs, as do a select few in the US.
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how do i build credit safely
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>>255300418
Most credit cards nowadays require a pin
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>>255300435
that's horrifying, i can see the dollars flying towards juden
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Is this going to be like the Play Station card that gives you like 50$ PSN credit instantly but you pay 3 times as much in yearly fees?
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>>255300549
With a credit card.
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>>255300498

As long as it isn't obvious that you've got lods of emone you'll probably be fine.

But I don't really know since I mean fuck, it's not like I deal drugs or make a living off that kinda thing.
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>>255299896

This.

Credit cards are basically you want to make a purchase but you don't have the money to do so at this particular time. So you pay in credit from the company that holds your card.

In exchange, you can then pay off the total at a later date. If you pay the total off in full, the APR will mean nothing. If it's a larger purchase, then you'll be charged interest equivalent to your APR divided by 12. That's the monthly charge. You have to pay off the principle balance plus any interest to satisfy payment.

Generally, if you want to build credit, make small purchases you can easily pay off at the end of the month related to your income. Only use a credit card for big purchases if it's absolutely necessary, like paying for a car repair, but you don't have the $700 to do so.

Blown timing belts and motor mounts suck.

>/v/ - Finance 101
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>>255300293
>Hello mr Tax man, last month I earned 50k selling meth, but I bought a new meth factory for 40k, so can you only charge me on the base rate for the 10k above the personal allowance I earned, cheers.
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>>255300549
Use it like a debit card, meaning dont spend money you dont have
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>>255300498

just keep yourself off the radar is all
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>>255300312
That's not a payday loan. Payday loans rarely exceed $500. But yea most states have a limit on APR. Good thing indian reservations dont need to follow state or federal law.
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>>255300057
Enjoy buying a house or a car

>Inb4 im rich had have millions of cash on me at all times
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>>255300415

Because if someone steals your debit card information and uses it, your money is gone forever. Credit cards have ways of denying charges.
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>>255299367

I can't into math but is this saying that you'll have to pay them back over 11,000 dollars on a 5,000 dollar loan? The fuck?
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>>255300549
Get one credit card from your bank with no annual fee, make one small purchase a month with it, and pay it off in full (if you have self control and your bank account balance isn't regularly negative, put it on autopay each month).
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>>255300549
bank line of credit
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>>255300549
Don't spend more than you earn
I budget 1/4 of my bi-weekly income to ensuring my credit cards are below $50 or I meet the minimum payments if interest isn't an issue
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>>255298535
Don't get a credit card, especially if you're murrican
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>>255300384

>Can't really get good rates when you're young.

Where do you live?
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>>255298000
Store cards don't do jack shit for your credit.
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>get line of credit on your checking account at bank
>at the end of month, borrow 100 dollars on it
>the next day, pay it off
>repeat

how to build credit w/o a credit card
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>>255300757
That is where you would be wrong
Credit is credit
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>>255300549
Buy shit as you normally would but use a credit card instead of cash. Credit cards are fine so long as you can pay the money back; don't ever spend more than you have available to you in a month.
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>>255300715
I'm 20, English and my card is 18% with a limit of £8000

My dad's card is 6% fixed with a £100,000 limit and he's 50
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>>255300375
He means that everyone should use credit cards instead. Because most credit cards offer better rewards than a debt card does. Stuff like cash back is higher for credit cards because they can fuck you harder if you fuck it.
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>>255300757
That's completely incorrect, a credit card is a credit card.
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>>255295869

Marketers aren't even trying anymore.
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/v/, how can I best build my credit? I have a credit card that I pay off every month (been doing so for a little over a year now) and one bank account that I do so with.
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>>255300789
it's a good plan, until money comes out that you're unaware of and is automatically put on your line of credit.
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>>255300668

If you ahve a really shitty bank who has lax security procedures then sure it's lost forever. Better banks will straight up ring you and inquire about any recent purchases for xx amount and ask if you bought X item at Y location. If you haven't and they notice indiscrepancies they'll cancel and immediately issue you a new card and refund the money lost and file a police report.
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>>255300918
Then you're already doing it.
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ok so since we have a bunch of money experts here

i want to start playing the stock market, where do i start?
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>>255300243
>being american
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>>255300757
Store cards DO build credit. The same companies that issue credit for major network (Visa/Amex/Mastercard/Discover/Diners Club/JCB) issue store cards.

For instance, GE Money Bank issues the Walmart store card and Home Depot store card.

These issuers report positive history all the same as a visa card.

However, it is considered inferior credit to a major network, and thus you should use it as a starting point and have few/not all store cards.
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>>255300978
buy stocks
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>debt is good goyim
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>>255300415
If your debit card details get stolen and your account gets drained you're completely fucked until you get the money back (which can take months).

If your credit card details get stolen they'll be stealing the issuers money, not yours, so it won't affect you at all.
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>>255300715
Why the fuck would they give young people good rates? They're the dumb fucks who overspend using credit cards meaning they make more money from them.
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>>255299978
Yeah, you do have to pay taxes. Even if the income you get is from illegal activities.
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>>255300946

>not being aware of your finances

>>255300978

purchase stock
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>>255300918
you're already doing it

>>255300957
after 48 hours your loss is capped at $500 on debit cards, after 60 days your losses are unlimited if you don't notice fraud.
source: US Electronic Funds Transfer Act
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>>255300186
because people are retarded.

Same with Rent-a-center.

like a 500 dollar television that you're renting to own for 17.99 a week with their stupidly high 169% interest rate, you'd be paying like 2000 dollars for a 500 dollar TV
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>loaning money for video games

you should start looking for the problem and not trying to avoid it. (and not even be able to manage this)
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>>255300957
This

I was in London before getting a train to leeds. I took some money out an ATM and it was declined. Bank immeditely phoned me asking if it was me doing the purchase, I told the lady yes and she said ah ok, try again and it worked

Minorly annoying but useful I guess
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>tfw parents are really good with their money and have good credit but have never taught me their ways

Hopefully they're just waiting till I graduate college cause as of now I really don't have a need for a credit card.
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Why wouldn't I just use my actual credit card and then immediately pay it off with the money saved in my bank account? Actually, why would I buy a PS4?
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What kind of retard actually has a credit card

I mean seriously even if you're the smartest, safest fucker ever SOMETHING is gonna go wrong and you'll be in debt for fucking life.
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>>255301014
No, but building a good credit score is good.
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how do i get rich off buttcoins?
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>>255300969
>>255301109
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>>255295869
Explain the APR to a non American. Do you seriously have to pay 27% on every purchase you make with the damn thing? Why would people do that.
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>>255295869
Wow, I'm French, paying 4,5% APR and that's considered high here
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>>255301190
Go back in time.
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>>255300384
Insurance is pretty bad too, where I live. Male? Costs more. Under 25? Costs more. Haven't been driving long? Costs more. I'm a 23-year old guy and I pay out the asshole despite never having an accident, simply because I am a 23-year old guy.
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>>255301116
My friend fell for this shit. He ended up spending a grand for like a 40 inch TV
He's dumb as rocks so I'm not surprised
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>>255300556

>most

I've literally never heard of this. Maybe it's a Euro thing.
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Just used my rewards points for $25 cash back. Paid in full every money for shit i need. (gas, food) But yeah guys credit cards are terrible. I now i have $25 for doing nothing. omg this sucks.

>>255300978

You gotta have at least $5,000+ to invest in the stock market to actually make money.
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>>255301142
>what is a credit score
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the bank of gamestop is real
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>>255295869
HOLY FUCK
this is the utmost of shilling
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>>255300186
Native American reservations largely exist outside of the laws governing the rest of the United States. That extends to consumer protection laws, apparently.
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>>255300878
But that's stupid as well, you don't gain anything from using credit cards when you have the money to buy it at the time of purchase. Your just waiting to pay off credit card bills at that point and anything can happen to fuck you over while you wait.
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>>255301156
>I mean seriously even if you're the smartest, safest fucker ever SOMETHING is gonna go wrong and you'll be in debt for fucking life.
[Citation Needed]
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>>255301219
No, at the end of every month then whatever you don't pay off accrues 1/12th of that in interest. If you do pay it off then the card company gives you free shit.
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>needing credit
>not having autismbux
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>>255301219

read the thread yurofriend

if you didn't pay the balance off for a year, it would be 27% more. actually it would be more since compound interest
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>>255301156
>I mean seriously even if you're the smartest, safest fucker ever SOMETHING is gonna go wrong and you'll be in debt for fucking life.
Yeah, I'm gonna put pile on life long debt with a single credit card.
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>>255299367
>$40,000 to borrow $5000
>84 payments of 800
>paying back this loan for 7 years
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jesus fucking christ

The Walmart credit card is like 22%, I thought THEY were jews
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>>255301219
If you don't pay something off within a year, you pay that much interest on it. If you pay the bill in full each month, you pay no interest. If you pay the bill after
1 month: ~1/12 of APR
2 months: ~2/12 of APR
3 months: ~3/12 of APR
(interest is compounded daily so it's slightly more than those fractions).
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>>255301334
>you don't gain anything from using credit cards when you have the money to buy it at the time of purchase

You gain credit, that's the whole point of credit cards.
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>>255297506
eh. I'd prefer the xbone over the ps4 at this point.
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>have credit card that lets you go to the movies for free when you get enough points
>use it for almost everything, but always things I can afford and pay off instantly
>Never have to pay interest since I always pay it off on time and get go to the movies at least once a month for free including snacks
>Building credit to someday have a nice mortgage while never having to pay to go to the movies again while having literally no downside as long as I keep paying it off on time
Credit companies make their money off of degenerates who buy what they can't afford with them. It's only a jewish scheme to get a hold of all of your wealth if you let it be. I literally have more money in my bank account due to my credit card because I would be spending money at the movies anyway and even if I wasn't, the monthly fee for having a credit card is basically the same as having a debit card. Life is good
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>>255300856

>I'm 20, English and my card is 18% with a limit of £8000

You're 20 and you have an £8000 limit on your card? Dude that's way too much of a limit for you at that age unless you're in some super high paying full-time executive job. Then again I don't live in Britain but in Aus you can get decent rates on cards with smaller limits if you're even around 20 years of age.

8000 GBP is like $15k AUD, fuck man I don't even have a high limit of that much on my card and i'm almost ten years older than you.
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>>255300978
Most of these people are here are the same ones who shitpost uncontrollably in threads they dislike instead of hiding them and are NEET faggots who haven't had a job before in their 19 years of living.

Don't go here for advice, and WHATEVER you do don't go to /biz/
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Anon you have 3 to 6 months of monthly income set aside for emergencies right?
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>>255301263
People with no credit pay 40% more than people with great credit, and having no credit is actually worse than bad credit for auto insurance pricing.
http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/22/want-to-pay-less-for-car-insurance-have-good-credit/

>The analysis found that young adults ages 25 to 34 with clean driving records, for instance, pay an average of $1,938 a year for full auto coverage. But those same drivers with a credit score over 750 pay an average of $1,155 — a 40 percent savings.
>Drivers in that same age group with credit scores of 650 to 749 pay an average of $1,658, a savings of $280 compared with the overall average; those with lower scores, of 500 to 649, pay an average of $2,023, or $85 more.
>(Drivers with no credit file are penalized the most; they pay an average of $2,182, or $244 more than the overall average.)
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>>255301190
go back to when they were $10 a coin

>browsing /pol/ a few months ago
>buttcoin thread
>people shitting on it
>$10 for virtual money
>Its a scam
>I listen to /pol/
>fast forward
>buttcoins are worth hundreds of dollars
>people saying for months that its a bubble and will burst
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>>255300668
Chase contacts me if theres some weird shit going on.
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>>255300285
Fuck immigrants. I hope they all die. Fucking spics and Arabs.
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>getting a credit card from any store

I'll never understand why people actually fall for this shit. Must be really desperate or really ignorant.
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>>255301219

It's an annual percentage rating. Basically, it's what you get charged in interest in total through the year if you have unpaid principle. It's NOT monthly. If you want the monthly charge that gets added to the principle, it's that number divided by 12 roughly multiplied by the principle left.

Pretty simple to understand, actually. Most of /v/ is is just full of shut ins or baby anarchists that don't understand how things work, or are using (better) European/British systems, such as you.
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>>255301526
only idiots don't
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>>255301067

If you are working full time they will give you good rates and give you a small or moderate limit. And then offer to raise the limit later on for you if you find the amount is not enough. It's an old trick.
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>>255301219

If you pay it off at the end of the month, no biggie. If you don't pay your balance though, you get charged a percentage of your overall balance. Rates like these suck, but usually come on a card that offers something like "No interest if paid in full within 18 months", which is a really nice way to get something now, and slowly pay it off over time, but not pay any extra money. I've done it with a bunch of stuff, and as long as you pay it ALL off within the given time period, you're fine. BUT, if you don't pay it off, and even a dollar remains, some cards will hit you with compiling interest, which essentially means you get ALL of the interest you accrued over the last say, 18 months, charged to your account all at once.

Credit cards are great ways to finance new purchases, but you gotta be smart with them.
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>>255301219
The rate is the interest that you would build during the entire year, so that 27% is divided amongs whoever many times the credit card issuer decides to compound your interest. Say its annual, once a year, and you spent 100 dollars on your credit card. By not paying off the 100 in the grace period, you have built 27% debt on that 100 during the course of the entire year, making your debt now 127 dollars.
If the interest is compounded per month, then in each month where you did not pay your debt during the grace period, you build 27% intertest per year Divided by 12 months per year, 2.25% interest per month. So, in that one month where you spend 100 dollars, you build another 2.25 dollars worth of interest, this makes more money for the issuer as in the next month, the next 2.25% is calculated on your new level of debt, 102.25 instead of the original 100. As said earlier, some compound per day, meaning that your debt grows faster compared to monthly or yearly interest charges
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>>255300978
buy stocks, bonds are shit right now
tech lately has been at the shitter, while walmart is shit for some reason. Exxon is down lately, if you are for real about this then that would be something I'd buy in. I am a stock broker's apprentice while I learn to become one myself, if you have any further questions.
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>>255301334
>buy $500 tv with store credit card
>get 5% cash back
>free $25
>pay it off and dont let interest fuck you
>free $25

Get it now?
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>>255301630
my mom does all her shopping at target so it makes sense for her
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>Be 20
>Been working since 16
>Each month since I got a job get right into online banking. tell myself I'll put 1/4 of my paycheck into a savings account no matter what
>This morning just topped up this savings account to £23,000, with my debit card account having £800 in it and I've got about £500 in cash

feels good mayn. I'm also technically Jewish so..

>>255301506
I do. I'm not super high pay, but it's connected to the same bank account as my savings (see above)

I've never spent above £100 in a month on my card, ever.
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>>255301141
I'll teach you the big secrets to not being retarded with money.

>Budget
Set aside a bit of money each week to pay for your monthly bills, you do not fucking touch this money for anything else but those bills you goddamn idiot. Set aside money for other expenses like groceries and whatnot, and set aside some emergency money each week too, because life doesn't make goddamn sense sometimes. Whatever is left over can be spent how you please, but a smart person would stuff it in a bank anyway so don't spend money for the sake of it.

>Credit
Use credit cards. Anyone who tells you they're evil are fucking stupid. These little shits will save your ass some day. Put things on the credit card, make sure you can actually AFFORD it before hand, pay back your debt IN FULL when it arrives and enjoy your platinum credit rating, bitch.
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>>255301630
If you get one for a grocery store or big box store you shop at literally every week it's worth it
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>>255301475
Not if you pay it off right after you charge your credit, its 10x more effective to wait till its time to be billed and to not fully pay it off to build credit faster and better. Credit companies don't like it when you use credit when you don't need it
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>>255301526
>tfw live paycheck-to-paycheck
>tfw ready to anhero if I get injured and cant work because no one will support me
At least I can fly with Zyzz to Mt. Olympus...right?
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>>255300674
Bascially.
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Jesus christ the terms on that card is awful. I got an AmEx bluecash and got $50 cash back +1-3% on every purchase. Also the APR is 12% and no interest for a full year.
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>not utilizing credit well
I've never paid a dollar in interest and I'm 24. It's not hard to get a good credit score. The travel benefits and extended warranties have saved me tons of money.
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This interest rate is outrageous and only a complete fool like a gamestop consumer would tall for it.


How young and naive are you kids to think you need a credit card to build credit? You shouldnt buy something yiu need a credit card to make themonthly payments on, with high interest it's how you stay in debt forever.

Please don't fall for this shot you stupid americans, there are better ways to build credit without accepting outrageous interest rates
This is exploitative of rerards
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>>255301141

Just fucking ask them.

>Hey, mom and dad, how do I good finances?

You have to ask people for advice sometimes.
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>>255300285

You still working there? How much harder have they been pushing that shit the last two years?
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> Be NEET
> Mother goes out on vacations
> Blow food money in a day buying Pizza and vidya
> Have to survive for a week on cheap ramen and scrambled eggs
Life is suffering.
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>>255301798
This is a false statement. You do not need to keep a rolling balance. Jsut wait untill they say "ok faggot, you owe use 150 bucks by next week but just give us 5 bucks." Then pay in full.
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>>255301740
I don't know how it works in bongland, but if you're saving that hardcore you should be putting some away in a tax-advantaged account for retirement (401k or IRA in the US)
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Can I pay for my credit cards with other credit cards? Couldn't I just get 12 credit cards and pay them all with eachother and have infinite money that way?
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>>255301798
http://money.msn.com/credit-rating/7-nasty-credit-myths-that-will-not-die-weston.aspx
> Fact: You don't need to be in debt or pay a penny of interest to have good credit scores.
> **Your credit reports and scores don't "know" whether you're carrying a balance or paying it off in full every month. That's because the balance reported to the credit bureaus typically is the balance from your last statement, not what was left over after you got that statement and paid the bill. So you might as well pay in full and save yourself the interest.**
> This myth encourages people to carry unnecessary debt, putting them at the mercy of credit card issuers and eroding their financial security.

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2010/08/24/six-popular-credit-score-myths
>One of the most popular credit score myths is that you need to carry a balance in order to build credit. Fortunately, that's not true. In reality, 35% of your credit score is based on your payment history and creditors don't care whether you carry a balance or not. **In fact, your credit cards will report your statement balance each month with no other information. No one knows, or cares, whether you've carried a balance from month to month or just racked up the charges on the statement in the last month.**
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>>255301992
The 23k is in an ISA (Tax free savings account) giving me roughly 3% interest

I know it's not as good as investing but fuck I'm 20 I don't want to lose all of my money in stocks or something
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>>255302005
omg im gunna steal this idea.
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>>255301905
I have but they brush the question aside. They're really fucking weird with money for some reason
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>>255302005

Sure, but it'll catch up with you and is generally a really stupid idea.
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>>255302005
Paying a credit card with another credit card can't be done generally. If you use balance transfer checks to shuffle balances, they will charge you at a minimum a fee of 2-5%, and unless you have a promotion, will start charging you a higher APR than normal as soon as you transfer the balance.

Also other issuers can see if you're putting high balances on your other cards, at which point they don't issue you new ones, reduce your credit lines, or in severe cases, close your existing ones.
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>>255302005
This is how many Americans think, this is also why they get their homes reposed because they couldn't afford a $500 tv
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>>255301740
>tfw got a job the summer after I graduated high school
>tfw saved up pretty much all summer
>tfw had to dump it all into buying textbooks for college

From then on, I was forced to completely self-sustain on min wage jobs living in a college town. Shitsux. Luckily I've got a pretty good paying job and live in a shit cheap place so I'm starting to finally get a lot saved up.
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>>255302005
No, you can't
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>gamestop credit card

Nope, gamestop isn't evil at all. Definitely not the greatest threat to video games currently existing.
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>>255302005
>>255302105
I know you're probably being sarcastic, but no you cannot pay off credit with credit.
Credit payments are usually restricted to debit, check, or cash transactions, specifically to prevent that thing you said.
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I know there's no way to build fast credit, but what is some no-bullshit way I can build credit if I need to repair my score? I'm in the states btw.
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>>255302005

thats called re-consolidating, and its a thing.

its not good for your credit score
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>>255300978
>i want to start playing the stock market, where do i start?
Just give your money to me directly, it'll save you the heartache.

But really you should start by buying dummies guide to stock market it helped me somewhat understand, then get eTrade and start buying stocks and waiting months to make money

Stock trading doesn't work if you can't invest like 100k though, money breeds money so a 2% increase on $30 stocks is 60 cents, and that's generous of 2%. SO to make big money you'd need 1000 stocks to make $600, which is an original investment of $30,000
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>>255302254
Holy fucking shit are you stupid? Use a god damn credit card. This isn't some scam. That is how you build credit.
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>>255301798

No, this is factually incorrect. Leaving a balance does not improve your credit more, it just costs you money. Do some research, this is a common misconception.
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>>255302254
credit repair is tricky and some is just due to age. a lot of junk debt buyers are not able to have proper evidence of the debt though, or will settle for a fraction of the original amount and remove all references from your credit report (called a pay for delete or PFD).

google it, but you might want to post about your situation on creditboards.
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How do I get rid of student loan debt?
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>>255302005

You won't have infinite money but you will have most of your debt precariously balanced in such a way that as long as not every other credit card demands payment on the exact day(s) as another one you can pay off your debt this way. Though generally when you do pay off one credit card debt this way ideally you're supposed to cancel that card until you're left with only one or two cards.
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>>255302254
get a starter card at a credit union, the requirements for them are nearly non-existent.

instead of using your debit card for purchases, use the credit card. and only buy shit you'd normally be able to afford. Then pay off the card 100% before the due date every month. Don't just pay the minimum payment. The entire balance.
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>>255300418
chip/pin... americlaps have not yet adopted this
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>>255301109

does anyone have experience with TD bank on this?
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>>255301156
People who want to like, buy a house or something, or need ANY loan. It's easy anon, if you know you have $40 in your bank account don't buy a $1000 TV
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>>255302219
Didn't go to collage. Just worked odd jobs
>Still live with parents for £200 a month
>My dad super jewed a car company so I get a brand new VW polo for £100 a month
>Job I works at pays for my fuel
>Watch money rack up because I have no friends or social life

l-living the l-life fellas
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>>255302005

It's ok to do if you wanna change cards entirely, but not recommended if you're having trouble paying your bill.

I transferred about 500 bucks to a new card from an old one and got 0% interest for a year, a lower interest rate, and a higher limit. Totally worth it, but my score tanked about 40 points, i've since rebuilt it and it's only been 6 months.
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>>255302471
Kill yourself or smash your head against the wall so you become retarded.
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>>255302254

>get a credit card if someone will give you one with your supposed "bad credit score"
>make maximum of $50 purchases every month on it
>pay off at end of the month
>repeat

...that's all. Credit score just means you're good at making payments on time. A high score is just a way for companies to see they can trust you with credit and that you'll pay it back right on time instead of running off with their money.
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>>255302484
walmart and sam's club just started doing it. if your card has a chip on it, you can't use the magnet stripe at all.
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>>255302484
>chip/pin... americlaps have not yet adopted this
Very few cards have it.
Marriott Platinum Visa: Chip & signature
PenFed Cash rewards: Chip & pin
Citi AADvantage: Chip & Signature

most american points of sales don't have chip readers yet though.

>>255302471
you don't. federal loans at a minimum can't be discharged during bankruptcy.
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>Credit cards are a jewish money grubbing scam!

I'm so absurdly tired of hearing this You didn't fuck up your credit and drown yourself in debt because of evil corporations, you did it because you incorrectly used credit.

Stop trying to find an excuse for your stupidity
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>>255302471
I'm afraid you can't.
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>>255301109

>after 48 hours your loss is capped at $500 on debit cards, after 60 days your losses are unlimited if you don't notice fraud.
source: US Electronic Funds Transfer Act

Yeah i'm not in America though, in Australia. Laws here tend to require more responsibility and well being on the corporate end.
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>>255302471
Pay it off or die.

There are some ways to not have to pay it for a while if you cant get a job or get hurt. But at some point you have to pay it off. In Florida if you make a payment plan that is like 30 years long they can offer to close the account early for a smaller lump sum if they want their money faster
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Yes
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>>255302623
If I fake my death somehow will that work and will my degree still work?
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>>255302005

No, this will murder your credit score. It's called "revolving door credit" and it's a TERRIBLE idea.
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>>255302649
>walmart and sam's club just started doing it. if your card has a chip on it, you can't use the magnet stripe at all.
They're on the better side of the EMV mandate. The mandate is that you need to support it on or before October 2015 or you get fucked if you don't support it and someone claims a charge is fraud.
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>>255302471
Move to a third world country.
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>>255302682
Credit cards are fine if you're smart with them

But it's a fact that banks WANT you in debt. They want you to owe them more money
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>>255302471
https://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/charts/teacher
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>>255298259
im fucking 19 and i can responsibly use my credit card. i use it for my beer.
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>>255300384
>>255301263

>tfw 27
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>>255302741

your degree isn't worth anything anyway if you think that is a good idea
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>>255302780
interesting, they just changed all the pinpads at the walmart I work at.
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>>255302808
Would Japan work?
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>>255302670
Eh, it's coming up. But every time I tried using the chip it takes more effort than it does to swipe because I've got to do it like 3 times
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>go to college
>$20k student loan
>they want me to pay $250 a month
>pay $300 a month instead for 3 years

>finally get a non-retail job and make good money
>decide to start paying $1000 a month because I can
>people telling me that finishing early will make my credit score worse
>but if I only pay $250 a month, I'll get stuck paying interest well beyond the year 2020
I don't understand this credit shit. I just want to get rid of my loan so I can afford to move out of my parents' house and into a decent apartment, go to work, eat food, and play vidya. I'm not asking for much, am I?

also
>financing video games
who the fuck does this?
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>>255302097
when you're young is when you go with the riskier investment. The S&P 500 has returned an average of about 11%(about 8% after inflation) Over 40 years, your return in a fairly safe index fund should be about e^(40*.08)=24 times what you put in today (adjusted for inflation).

I'm not saying to put all your savings in stocks, but everything beyond what you need to live for ~6 months and what you're saving for a car, down payment on a house, etc. should go in a retirement account to grow IMO.
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>>255302649
I was about to come in and mention this. Theyre making us shill this shit all over the store. I work the Gas Station. I carry the clip board around to make it look like I'm shilling but fuck bothering people just getting their gas.
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>>255302896
>working at walmart
My condolences anon.

I work with your corporate guys and they're trying to pressure my company into moving me to Bentonville. nope.jpg, won't do it.
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>>255302872

lol probably not a good example but technically I guess you are being responsible if you're just paying for beer only with it, since you could probably afford it anyway without a credit card so you're really only buying something you could pay for already.
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>>255302735
>it just prints money
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>>255302863
That's a pretty cool deal. What are the requirements for being a teacher anyway? I doubt a regular biology degree would allow one to become a teacher just like that, right?
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>>255300384

>Be 18
>Get first credit card with first job
>17.9% Interest rate
>12 years later, card has 12.9% interest rate.

It also gets me about 150$ worth of points per year, while costing 40$. So they pay me 100+ a year to use the card. I never pay interest on it because even though I buy everything with my credit card, I always transfer money back to it that same week.
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>>255303040
It's alright. Been there 6 years and will be there until my casket closes. No GED, too poor and stupid for college, so it's overnight until I collapse.
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>Work in shop in bongland
>merrican comes in, buys a trolly full of beer and steaks
>HEY BUDDY JUST GONNA HAVE A COOK UP WITH MY ENGLISH BUDDYS HAHAHA GOOD WEATHER TODAY
>ok sir that's £50
>HEY BUDDY LET ME JUST PUT THAT ON MY PLASTIC, MAN YOU ENGLISH HAVE SOME HOT GIRLS HERE
>he gives me his card
>just put it in the chip and pin machine
>THE WHAT? WHAT'S THIS?
>WHERE DO I SIGN IN THIS THING
>WHAT'S IN THE BOX?
>we don't have any swipe machines any more
>dumb fucker didn't bring any cash with him and had an ancient card system
>HEY BUDDY SORRY BOUT THAT MAN WELL HAVE FUN PUTTING MY STUFF BACK
>fucking americans
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>>255297828
The APR shouldn't even be relevant as long as you have a functioning brain.
It could be 10000% for all I care.
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>>255303147
Need a masters degree
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>>255302983
>people telling me that finishing early will make my credit score worse

"People" are misinformed. Jesus fuck is that bad advice. If someone gives you credit and you pay them back, that's good for you. Never pay interest because someone tells you it's good for you.
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Even though I have a credit card and debit card, I still really prefer to pay in cash if possible. I really only use my card for online purchases.
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>>255303240
Sometimes shit happens and you find yourself with a lot less money than you used to have.
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>>255302315
>not knowing about leverage and shit
cmon son
or does the stock market nog work like the forex market?
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>>255303390
Shit doesn't happen in a month, because you have enough savings to last at least 3. Otherwise, you're not buying video games.
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>>255303238
Americans are so cute
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>>255303387
>not racking up free money in cash back rewards

you a dumb nigga.
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>>255302896

I work at Home Depot, and they did the same thing.

>Show up for work in the AM
>Breaking all the money bags down, doing deposits.
>Dude shows up with a cart filled with boxes
>"Hey man, you gotta set these up today before you go".
>Rush to finish doing deposits, ordering change, fixing time clock
>Have to swap out all the cords on the PCs, took me almost 4 hours to do them all
>People keep ripping the fucking styluses out destroying them.
>Half of them are already broken.

Fuck this shit, 9.88 an hour for what I do is fucking bananas.
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>>255303238

>no ten gallon hat and six shooters
>no ketchup
>no clapping

3/10 american copypasta would not save
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>Have friend
>Brags about his new car and rolex
>tells me he's earning loads
>drive average car, average stuff
>I never go into debt
>he tells me he isn't either, he just earns a lot
>skip forward 5 years
>he lost his job
>he's in debt by 40k
>he's fucking around with his cards
>he's stressed all the time
>selling all his stuff he bought on credit
>still owes shit loads
>meanwhile I've never gone into debt once, rent everything and my savings account has gone over 40k now
>live modestly, get beer and weed every week and pirate all my vidya
>he turned up to my flat one day crying saying he needed a hug
>his girlfriend left him, he's now in 100k of debt and can't find a job
>feel good I never got into debt

Not saying debt is a completly bad thing, but I don't need to drive a BMW or live in a huge house. I'm content with a modest life
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>>255302983
your credit score won't go down for paying it off sooner, it just won't improve as much as it would if you continued to chip away slower because that's how credit companies make their money.
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>>255303147
In America you can be a teacher at a private/religious school and just need the degree. My friends friend does it and he said it was really easy. Just a matter of getting the job
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>>255303826
see >>255302049
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>>255300569
There's no fee for the PlayStation card. I actually have one.
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>>255303238
>Work in a shop in burgerland
>bong comes in, buys a cart full of crumpets and tea
>BLOODY HELL IT'S FOOKING 'OT OUT ERE TODAY INNIT GUVNAR
>it was 67c
>JUST GOWNA GO SAY ME CHANT TO THE FOOKIN QUEEN IN THE DIRECTION OF MEKKA OH EK
>ok sir that's $50
>he gives me a crumpet
>no sir in america we use cash
>WIBBLY WOBBLY OLD CHAP I LEFT ME APPLES AND TRAIN ON THE WRONG QUIBBLE
>he gives me some funny looking note with some old bitch on it
>dollars sir
>he gives me a card
>he tries to insert it into various holes of my station
>sir just swipe it
>he begins swiping it aroudn in the air
>WHAT, BY GUMBO IT'S NOT WORKING BLOODY BASTARD WHAT IS THIS
>don't have any fish and chip and pin machines
>WIZZLY WOZZLY JIMMY SAVILE AND A PACKET OF FAGS APOLOGIES OLD CHAP, DO HAVE A GOOD TIME RETURNING MY GOODS I'LL JUST GO BUGGER OFF AND HAVE A SHAG WITH THAT BINT OUTSIDE
>fucking brits
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>>255303770

Living the dream man. People are brought up thinking they can live beyond their means.

>Live at home, plan on moving soon, but no one really wants me to leave since I do a good job keeping the yard cut, fertilized and pretty.
>Work a crap retail job, but I'm just biding my time until I finish school.
>Modest car
>Don't buy a lot of crap

My worst vice is retro vidya, but I limit myself to about 60-100 a month on it. I'm at the point now where I could probably turn around and sell it all for about 3k, and that's really low balling it. So it's kind of it's own safety net, probably not the best investment, but I got a shit load of NES and SNES games before they shot up in price, and now most of what I have it worth double what I paid.
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>>255304027
Right, but if he continues to pay on it longer, his history is prolonged. I'm not saying either is right, but it kinda makes sense.
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>>255304027
A loan isnt the same as a credit card though. When you close out a loan it is done. It doesn't just sit there with a 0 balance racking you free credit for the rest of your life.
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>>255301269
or its the americans being weird and different again. why the hell wouldnt a credit card have a pin?
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>>255303770

I wanna be you anon
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>people surprised at 26.99%
Are you all tweens on mommy and daddy's computer?

Banks and credit unions check a person's credit rating and debt:income before approving a line of credit, and currently will give out credit with an APR of 13%.

Big box stores and other retail outlets also provide lines of credit, but do so without giving a flying fuck about the person's credit rating. As such they expect some people to not pay at all, so to balance that out and make a profit they attach insane interest rates to their cards.

26.99% is fairly standard. A Sears or Target card will have the same interest rate.
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>>255304221
>>it was 67c
>c
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for those looking for a new card:

APR means jack shit if you don't ever let it charge interest.

Get one with no yearly fee
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>>255304221
>67c
AT IS FOOKING 'OT AT IS
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>>255303770
>he's in debt by 40k
That's not a lot, anon.
>I...rent everything
You're retarded. You're avoiding debt, but by doing so you're spending more money and earning zero equity.
>100k in debt and can't find a job
That's what bankruptcy is for.

This never happened. You suck at finances.
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>>255304391
That's because most of the in-store credit cards are run by GE
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>>255304221

>67c

Jesus christ dude that's fucking scorching. Chickens would lay eggs that are already boiled at that temperature.
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>>255304221
>work in a shop in burgerland
>black comes in, buys a cart full of watermelons and lockpicking tools
>bunga nunga doonga munga boonga
>ok sir that's $50
>he gives me a watermellon
>no sir in white shops we use money
>bunga munga ooga booga bix nood
>he gives me a credit card
>the name on it is Mrs Paula White
>sir you're not a mrs paula white
>boonga white wimminz chicken onga bonga
>he offers his wife and first born son
>dollars sir
>woogly boogly oggly smoogly, bing bong bang
>drops a load of quaters on my counter, walks off
>fucking blacks
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>>255300549
Get a credit card with no monthly/yearly fee and use it only for buying gas. Pay it off every month.
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>>255300243
>Not using gift cards for online purchases.
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So /v/, when does the interest apply to a credit card? Would you need to make an effort to pay off the card before the end of the month/billing cycle. Or is it fine to just wait for the bill and pay it asap after you get it.
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>>255305345
>So /v/, when does the interest apply to a credit card?
when you don't pay the bill in full each month
>Would you need to make an effort to pay off the card before the end of the month/billing cycle.
not necessary

> Or is it fine to just wait for the bill and pay it asap after you get it.
ding ding ding
read op it's pretty typical
>>>>Your due date is at least 25 days after the close of each billing cycle. We will not charge you interest on purchases if you pay your entire balance by the due date each month.
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>>255298535
>>255299978
What if I get a credit card but hardly use it? Sadly ebay requires credit cards now.
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>>255301734
> He thinks the cash back is free

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>255305345
When your card invoices for the month and you do not pay off the total amount that the invoice states you owe, you are charged interest on the unpayed amount.
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>>255305648
Any cashback less than 2.5-3% is funded by merchant swipe fees (the merchant pays), anything more is paid for by people that carry balances.
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>>255305648
free2me nigga
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So how do banks 'work', exactly?

I always imagined that they take your money and do whatever they want with it, but are also obligated to give you whatever it is you put in there.
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The interest doesn't matter if you pay it off in full, which you should fucking do.
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Would I build credit faster if I buy something expensive then pay that off instantly with my bank account?
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>>255306330
50 people give a bank 10 grand to look after
10 people ask for loans of 50 grand

bank grants money from A to B. they make money on the loan, because 50 grand might make them 20 grand over several years. Some of this money is then given to the people who's money they used, the rest of it is profit for the bank
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So how does money "work" exactly?

I always imagined that the money is made out of gold or some super expensive trees or something, but also like coins are all gold on the inside.
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>>255306573
No. You need to let it post on the statement. If you pay off each statement in full each month you get good credit and pay no interest. If you never let it hit the bill it won't build your credit.
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>>255306574
Ohh, right right.
For some reason I never factor loans into all this.

>>255306728
Fuck off.
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>>255306728
This is a troll right

money is an IOU from the government

this IOU is meant to be backed by gold, but in reality it's backed by the governments army
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Credit story time

> sign up for a credit card
> sign up bonus is to spend 500 in 3 months and you get 200 back
> Use this to buy a computer I've always wanted
> Get a shit ton of points for buying things
> points go to cash back

They got me. But hey, I saved over 200$ on my new computer
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>>255306573
No. However you would build credit faster if you used 2 or 3 credit cards and broke your purchases up between them.
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Looks like I'll apply for this one. Is it good to get a new card every 12-18 months?
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>>255306573
Credit cards aren't the only way to build your credit. Recurring payments are good for building credit as long as you pay them in full and aren't late. Things like cell phone bills and the like will help you establish a credit history. It just takes time.
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>>255295869
Oh good, another thing for the cashier to bother me with when I'm trying to check out.

>A-anon do you want to preorder anything
no i'm good
>A-anon but assassins c-creed is comin--
no thank you
>.... are you a p-power up rewards member?
no
>would you like to sign u--
no thank you
>......................... HOW ABOUT A CREDIT CARD?????
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>>255306573

Open revolving accounts count towards credit

I don't use credit cards, I never have. My credit score is in the 600's because of it. I don't have a car payment, credit cards, mortgage, anything.
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>>255306957
http://www.askmen.com/money/investing_200/237_investing.html
>3- I should have good credit; I pay my utilities and cell phone bill on time every month
> This is one of the sad facts about credit. It may be used to determine your ability to pay for everything you do, but not everything you do will reflect on your ability to pay. In other words, your cable company, phone company, gas company, etc., are all going to check your credit (they probably won’t tell you either). However, because these institutions are not granting you credit, they will only report to the credit bureaus if you fail to pay. In other words, when it comes to phones, utilities and cable, you can only hurt your credit, not build it.

http://www.credit.com/credit-scores/what-is-not-in-your-credit-score/
>On-time monthly payments for services like telephone, electric, water, cable, Internet, etc. are not reported by most utility companies to the three national credit bureaus, which store information for consumer credit reports. Because of this, on-time utility payments are not considered in most consumer credit reports.
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How did the first bank even start?

> Give us your money, we'll look after it, honest.
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>>255306936
can be if other factors are right. wait to see what benefits this card offers. the signup offer, APR, etc. all point to junk credit.
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>>255306882
Credit cards can be a good deal as long as you're responsible (the majority aren't). If you are, you will find yourself getting bonuses for things that you were already going to do.

For example, I have a credit card with 2% cash back. I use it to purchase the things I was already going to buy anyway - fuel, groceries, etc. then I get money back for doing nothing. Needless to say, I always pay my bill in full and on time.

It's an example of how people with money get advantages that most people don't get, earning or saving them more money in the process - cash back, airline miles, gift cards, etc.
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>>255307350
Might have to take whatever I can get with my score in the mid 500s
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>>255307321
I don't know about first, but the first serious bank was for helping pilgrims reach jereusalem in like 1200's or some shit

Because traveling was expensive and when money is literally a big bag of gold, not only is it expensive but you're likely to get robbed

So you go to the bank in your country, say England at the time. the bank then takes your sack of gold and gives you a credit note. this credit note can then be taken out at any bank in the world run by the same people.

It just got more complex from there on out
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>>255296337
>ever getting an xbone
Fuck both the 'next gen' consoles but xbone is literally cancer
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>>255307802
Walmart Tech Guy on the tv says it has the most award winning and exclusive games.
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>>255307589
if your credit score is mid 500s you should probably not apply for new credit.
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>>255307251
I-I've been living a lie. When I was 16, I forgot to pay my cellphone bill and my mom made me go into the store, pay it, and apologize for being late
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>>255306882
We doing credit stories now?

>be 18
>dad gives me a "job" in his interstate company so banks think I have income
>credit cards roll in
>dad puts me on the house mortgage
>my credit cards pay the mortgage
>he pays off the credit cards
>be 21
>have 812 credit score
>I could realistically qualify for a jumbo loan
>I tell my dad I want to buy an apartment complex
>he's weary
>we go check some out
>we find a good one, 8 units, 3.2 mil is asking price
>we talk him down to 2.7
>I qualify for the loan
>buy the complex
>be 24
>own apartment complex
>live in one unit, rent out the other 7
>parents so proud of me
>making bank
>I research other business ventures during day, play vidya for like 4 hours a night
>life is actually good


Thanks mom and dad for helping me get off my feet in this fucking country - families should help each other out.
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>>255308194
>I-I've been living a lie. When I was 16, I forgot to pay my cellphone bill and my mom made me go into the store, pay it, and apologize for being late
Read more closely.
>, they will only report to the credit bureaus if you fail to pay. In other words, when it comes to phones, utilities and cable, you can only hurt your credit, not build it.
IF you don't pay, it shows up on your credit card and hurts you.
If you're good...they say nothing to the credit bureaus and it doesn't benefit you.
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>>255308348
>shows up on your credit card
herp-a-derp
meant
>shows up on your CREDIT REPORT
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>>255307926
Do you have any pointers for me given that scenario?
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>>255308241
Do you do upkeep yourself or do you outsource?
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>>255308475
sign up for creditkarma and creditsesame (credit check sites that are truly free, e.g. they don't ask for credit card, debit card, or bank account numbers when you sign up) and figure out how the fuck you got your credit card so far into shitsville.
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>>255308512
Myself. If i get too busy, i'll get a building manager, but they take a big cut and will typically do unnecessary renovations since they have kickback systems with private contractors.
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>>255308560
>credit card
credit SCORE. argh, I am dumb today.
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>>255308241
You made me proud anon.
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>>255308241
>2.7 mil loan age 24 no collateral

Somehow I doubt your story
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>>255299793
You can't get a creditcard without a full time job.
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>>255309029
Well, I'm self employed and I got a credit card

I earn under 9k a year too
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Are you fucking faggots confusing debit card with credit card?
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>>255308241
holyshit your dad's a bro. All mine could do for me at 21 was make our household homeless and be useless until he dies in a few years
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>>255308735
That seems like a pretty sweet gig up until moveout day lol

>be me
>mom is jobless
>step dad claims as dependent without ever paying me
>find out I've been missing out on shit, having been financially indepdendent since 18
>paying my own way through college and master's courses
>step dad pays his shitty daughter's tuition, rent and car payments
>gets mad when I ask for 50$ emergency

Coming from a poor family is suffering
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>>255295869
So, it's not a penis. Boring.
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>>255308241
>families should help each other out.
>says the richfag who had everything served on a silver platter by dadda
Ok buddy.
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>>255308986
>no collateral
I never said that.

Dad bankrolled me 250k cash to get the loan. that's what i mean by them helping me out.
I'm paying him back currently.

If a bank sees you posting 250k of your own money, theyre gonna trust that you know what youre doing.
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>>255309448
So basically the bank gave your dad a 2.7mil loan, in your name

Not everybody has a parent that can back a 2.7 million loan you know
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>>255299367
Good thing us native americans are free from federal "law" more like tyranny amirite ;] Rah rah piss on columbus
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>>255309407
I'm not gonna lie, we are well to do, but even if we weren't I have no doubt that they'd help me out all the same.
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>>255302471

http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/1di957/240000_student_loan_debt_40000year_job/c9qkc3h
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>>255309534
>So basically the bank gave your dad a 2.7mil loan, in your name
Precisely

>Not everybody has a parent that can back a 2.7 million loan you know

I understand, see>>255309689

I was originally looking for a duplex in the 700-900k region, it was my parents that pushed me to go bigger. Call me old fashioned, but I think family unity is an important thing.
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>>255300668
>Because if someone steals your debit card information and uses it, your money is gone forever. Credit cards have ways of denying charges.

The exact opposite of this is true. Most debit cards have safety features and any unauthorized charge can be cancelled if you report it right away. Only an idiot who never regularly checks his balance would actually lose that money.
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>>255306858
So what gives the government the right to impose their rules on us, we didn't ask to live under them, how does this work
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>>255295869
>Paying 27% interest to spend money

Why not just spend money you have, at no interest? I have never understood getting credit cards or lines of credit for small purchases.

I sure hope that non of you idiots are paying interest to pay for entertainment.
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>>255310147
>paying interest to pay for entertainment.
People do this so often it's bewildering
Terrifying, really.
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>>255300243
Depends on your bank, but my debit has all the same consumer protections as any credit card would.
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>>255309862
>tfw 80K in student loan debt
>think this is bad
>there are people that are 240K in debt
WELL!
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>>255309149
That's sad - be a good and fiscally responsible parent to your kids
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>>255310596
Reddit: Making 4chan feel better about itself since 2010.
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>>255310458
Wish mine did. Someone in Cyprus has been taking $40 a month for the past year an a half.
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>>255310596
>>255310718
I just can't believe it. 240K. My 80K is with undergraduate AND master's degree. And I'm making twice as much as her.

Feels goodman.
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>>255310756
HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE THESE THINGS ON YOUR STATEMENTS
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>>255310974
My college cost over $50K/yr, if I wasn't a trust fund babby I'd be fucked.

Then again, if that circumstance was different, I would have gotten merit aid at a state school and paid less than $10K/yr.
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>>255311009
Not sure, but I looked it up and apparently im not the only one having that particular charge be problematic.

I called my bank to issue me another debit card an cancel my current one. My new one came in the mail but I kept getting that charge because the dumbfuck on the phone didn't cancel it so I physically went to the bank.

I think that's the final straw with that particular bank. Currently looking into credit unions.
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>>255311925
Yeah, I'd say it would be a good idea to switch if they don't even alert you about multiple payments going to the fucking fraud capital of the world over a year and a half
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>>255307880
Award winning just means they had the biggest marketing budget, and Wii U easily beats it in exclusive games, especially since the industry's definition of "exclusive" includes games that are shared with PC and last-gen (Titanfall) and timed exclusives (Dead Rising 3.)
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>>255300384
>Being younger than 25
>On /v/

I want underage children to leave
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Whats the difference between a debit and credit card?
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>>255312739
>debit
checking account
>credit card
based on your credit
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>>255295869
jews gonna jew the goy
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>>255312930
So debit is better since its money that actually exists?
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>>255312739
>debit
Spending your money
>credit
Spending someone else's money at interest.
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>>255312739
Debit is money you already have stored away.
Credit is money you don't have but are supposed to pay back.
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>>255300757
>started building credit with a Kmart card
I'm sorry, what where you saying?
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>>255312739
how underage are you?
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>>255313064
not really if you want to build credit which is hell of a lot more useful than a checking account.

>tfw have been with my bank for over a decade
>tfw have shit credit and got denied everytime for their credit card.

Shit son, I don't even qualify for overdraft protection.
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>>255295869
>27% interest rate
Holy shit.
>you only get 15,000 points for signing up
That's literally a 10 dollar coupon and a shitty accessory.
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>>255312739
>Debit card
you set up an account and deposit money into it, either at a bank or ATM. If your debit card is also a Visa, you can use it Some debit cards can be used anywhere, provided they're a Visa or something. Other debit cards (usually at ghetto local banks) can only be used at ATMs. Debit cards mean you have a checking account, meaning you can write checks to pay off...

>Credit card
...which is what you use to borrow money and pay it off later. This gets tied into your credit score, which can determine how big of a loan you can take out when you want a house or something.
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>>255313367
What's the purpose of building credit though?
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>>255313367
>Not having overdraft protection because your credit is so shit

I have no credit history and have no problem getting overdraft protection. Just don’t be so stupid with money.

Your bank must think you are an uber fuckup
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>>255313618
You can qualify to take out bigger loans for things like a house
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>>255312739
Credit is money that you pay back. Debit is money that you currently have. Debit is the digital equivalent to cash.

>>255313064
It depends on the purchase, but if you want to build credit(which is how you're going to get financing on anything), then you're going to need a credit card.
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>>255301263
Funny that men have to pay more for insurance

>http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/women_worse_drivers_more_crashes_than_men_less_driving.html

Even the studies that claim women are better drivers say that because they claim women get in 40 percent of the accidents. When they are driving 40 percent of the time. So that doesn't really put things in there favor.
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>>255313618
Having good credit shows that you're responsible with money. This strikes well with any institution that is handling risky purchases(buying cars, renting apartments, buying houses, getting insurance, student loans etc).
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>>255313775
>>255313794

Shiet. Jews tying everything together.
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>>255313819
Women get into accidents that damage the car. Men get into fewer accidents but do accidents properly e.g. property and medical damage that costs tens or hundreds of thousands.
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>>255312739
>>255313794
Although a better question is "How the fuck don't you know this already?"
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>>255313957
People act like it's hard to get financing with no credit history, but it really isn't. You just have to get very specific financing for very specific items.
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>>255314118
because no bank account and 21
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>>255314212
>You just have to get very specific financing for very specific items.
As in, 20% APR on a car loan.

There are people that will generally lend to you with shit/no credit, it's just under godawful terms.
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>>255313982
I don't buy that. Not one bit.

>>255314228
I'm a year younger than you, and I've had that knowledge since I was at least 16. Oh well. Now you know.
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>>255313982
Where is your evidence claiming that?

Also what are the percentages, because remember men are more often to be driving.
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>>255314315
Nope. If you can manage to pay a decent down payment (show some fiduciary responsibility) and have an applicable cosigner, you can get as good a rate as anyone else.

Also
>Buying new cars

Good job goy.
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>>255314212
Have fun with that high interest rate to balance out you not being trusted with money.
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>>255314379
>>255314364
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/26/why-men-in-the-us-still-pay-more-for-auto-insurance/
> While figuring out why men often pay more still isn't completely clear, experts cite statistics showing that men and women drive differently. Not only do men spend more time behind the wheel (they drive about 1.5 times as many miles), but they are more likely to violate laws for speeding, yielding and passing. Plus, they take more risks (males were involved in 1.25 million more crashes in 2010).
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>>255314492
see
>>255314458
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>>255314458
>have an applicable cosigner
Eh, that's great when you live with your parents.
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>>255314594
>cosigners have to be parents

Nope again.
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>>255314693
I wasn't implying that, but that's typically the case. It's not often that a buddy is going to put his finances at risk for you.
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>>255314458
>cosigner
So basically if you can find someone who played the credit game right and agrees for all financial responsibility if you fuck up and it's just their credit being considered, you're golden.

Good to know anon, but a lot of people don't have people to cosign for them.

As far as buying new vehicles go, I'm 24, live at home, count all my shekels, have a 12 month emergency fund, max out my 401K match, and currently drive an old-ass car while having virtually no living expenses during the week. I can actually afford a new car, and recognize from a value perspective this is not ideal but after driving rental cars all goddamn week I want one nice car for my two hour drive each way to the airport and around town activities when I am home.
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>>255314541
>but they are more likely to violate laws for speeding, yielding and passing

Based testosterone.
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>>255314693
Most people who aren't blood are not going to cosign for you. A friend asked me to and I declined and explained why. Went over like a fart in church, but when your friend is bad with money I'm not going to hang $20K of risk for him around my neck with no benefit for me.
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At least I know to start saving now so I can go to Community College around 36 before my knees give out because I'm an idiot and will probably pay all in cash.

>tfw probably in remedial classes for 2 years because of no SATs and bombing the entrance exam
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I have a playstation card. Got a year of PS+ free and now I get 10% back on all my PSN purchases for free. Really, there's no reason not to get a GS card too if you can. Building credit is good. Just don't have too many cards and you're fine.
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>>255315036
>tfw you were going to go to University but know that you can't afford it
>settling on a A.S. in a related field and working your way up
I'll graduate 4 years later than everyone else, but at least I won't be massively in debt.
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>>255315171
>27% APR
>27
>Twenty-fucking-seven
That's almost 1/3 of the amount in interest on top of whatever late fees they might have. Fuck that. A Discover card has lower risk than that shit.
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>>255314541
Well it doesn't cite who did their study. And the way they worded that just sounds retarded.

>Not only do men spend more time behind the wheel (they drive about 1.5 times as many miles), but they are more likely to violate laws for speeding, yielding and passing. Plus, they take more risks

>Not only do men spend more time behind the wheel
>but they are more likely to violate laws for speeding, yielding and passing

Um isn't it logical that if they are doing more driving they will commit more violations?

Again though why didn't they list the study. Granted the link I posted wasn't the actual study itself, but it listed who gave it. Which gives you sufficient information to look it up yourself. This gives you nothing.
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>>255313819
>men get into majority of accidents
>wonder why men pay more for insurance
Education has failed once again Amerifats
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>>255314541
I hate sources like that. Where's the actual research? Seriously, people will cite shit like this when it gives literally one or two sentences that support their point.
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>>255315431
if you drive more than someone otherwise the same, you are more likely to get in an accident, hence a higher risk to the insurer.
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>>255315463
>http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/women_worse_drivers_more_crashes_than_men_less_driving.html
>Female drivers were found to be involved in 68.1 percent of all crashes

European Education Failed once again
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>>255315674
>if you drive more than someone otherwise the same, you are more likely to get in an accident
True. If you suck at driving, you're more likely to get into an accident as well, but that's not taken into account here.
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>>255315674
The link I posted. Which reference a study down by the university of Michigan claimed that men don't get in more accidents. Being more likely to get in an accident, does not mean you get in more accidents. There is a difference.

And logically speaking this premium men have to pay should only last for a few years. At which point you could judge them on how many accidents they have personally gotten. And how many tickets they have personally gotten. Not based on some generalization which does not necessarily apply to them. Unless you were just in it for the money.
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>>255295869
>Who else is going to get the Gamestop credit card so they can buy a PS4?
27%
If you can't buy it anyway you'll have a hell to pay off.
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>>255315982
>Being more likely to get in an accident, does not mean you get in more accidents
Insurance prices off how likely you are to make a claim to distribute the cost of different risks amongst the populations.
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>>255316663
And based on the study which was referenced in the link I posted men do not in fact get in more accidents. They actually get in less. So why look at information that says they drive more often, but but not studies that show they get in less accidents?

It would be like if good driver policies only looked at how much you drove, and not how many accidents you had gotten in.

>Well anon you haven't gotten in any accidents in the past 10 years.. However our information shows you drive slightly more than the average driver so we are raising your insurance fees

That would just be stupid.
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>>255301976
funny thing is, preorders are on a store by store basis. There is no national database for the preorders, so if dude is actually doing this and needed money for something when he was no where near home, he'd be fucked.
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>>255301078
fuck some people are stupid
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this shit is predatory
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>>255297358
26.99% is the same rate that many retail stores use. Take JC Pennys, 26.99% interest rate. It also depends on the credit supplier; I'm going to guess GE Credit.
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>>255302735
> pentagon city
my fuckin nigga
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>>255319046
>shopping at JC Penny
>having a card at JC Penny
mom, stop browsing 4chan please.
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>>255319273
He could have just googled it. It's an example of how common this insane interest rate is.
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>>255319273
>>255319447
No, I work there.
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>take out credit card
>give fake ID
>max it out on first spend

gg gamestop
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>>255319679
they ask for your social security number, good luck
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>>255319641
that's worse
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>>255319808
you can literally google those
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>>255319641
damn son, we'll I'll see you around in there if I have to accompany my white bitch.

>>255319679
might have to apply on the points site for it. Bring your SSN!

I can imagine the usual gamestop audience's credit tanking because this is pretty much easy credit.
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>>255320129
>committing a felony
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>>255320330
So?
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>>255320371
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>>255320140
is that notch in the top right?
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>>255320596
too skinny and ginger from what I can tell of the same guy they use in the posters outback near the lounge.
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You need to realize the credit system used in capitalist society is inherently venomous in nature, it is intended to put you in debt. Gamestop is basically a bank, now. //before, I read a post on /v/ where a guy said he used Gamestop as a bank, basically exchanging games for cash and vice versa and keeping his money in into the value of the physical assets; his games. Now, that isn't very sustainable, but now that Gamestop can basically loan money as well, they serve all of the functions of a bank in terms of exchange. Even so, that interest rate is INSANE.
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>>255301896
Why hide your balance?2309
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>>255320883
How the hell do you play that?
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>all these poorfags not able to pay off their bill every month
do none of you have parents to mooch off of?
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>>255321942
I travel for a living and don't need idiots telling me hurr durr $6.5K balances. I get reimbursed by work and pay the bill each month, but there are a lot of people on here with short attention spans.
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>>255319046
Only retards get credit cards from retail stores.
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>>255298535
>>255298684
It's better to use the credit card only if you know you can pay your credit card purchases in its entirety. It'll build good credit.
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>>255304221
>67c
>burgerland

you fucked up you yurupoo
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Sup niggas

11.99 interest rate
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is canceling a credit card with a zero balance bad for your credit? i don't want to pay the annual fee anymore and i have two other cards that give rewards points/no annual fee
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>>255323963
>is canceling a credit card with a zero balance bad for your credit? i don't want to pay the annual fee anymore and i have two other cards that give rewards points/no annual fee
It'll stop aging which can stagnate your score a bit but the downside is not worth the annual fee. Call your issuer and see if they'll waive the annual fee or switch you to a no fee version, and cancel if they won't.
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>>255295869
>26.99% APR

FUCKING GAMESTOP
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>>255300978
By first having a few million dollars of capital to invest.
If you do not yet have that much, acquire monies until you do have at least that much.
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>>255299367
After hundreds of years of being screwed over by white people I can't blame them for wanting to screw over white people right back.
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Credit is one of the great ways of milking the populace and keep power in the ogliarchy.

I will never have credit. I refuse to play into the system.
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>>255327713
You fool, you're already a part of the system. If you even pay taxes, they have you.
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>>255301976
>It's like they're rewarding me for banking with them.
Every fucking time
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>>255314541
I once saw a woman drive through a ditch going at least forty miles per hour to avoid traffic.

That study is bullshit.
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>>255329749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJrd1l0fqc
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>>255329950
apologies, english language link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loqubeb6M9w
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>>255328174

>2014
>paying taxes.

Literal definition of pleb.
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>>255301976
Remember when Kotaku or something took this as a true story and posted a fucking article about it?
That was fucking hilarious.
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