Realistically, who could possibly still be left to add to the roster at this point?
Who are the incontestable shoe-ins for smash 4?
>10 newcomers + Miis
>Brawl had 16
>More then a few were clones
Welp. I doubt we're getting anyone particularly good. Unless they're throwing around clone spots like they're nothing, in which case we might get a few more Lucina-esque characters (Black Shadow for Ganondorf etc).
Because she didn't have a poster made for her and it would an empty looking banner.
I think at least one new DK rep is going to be in
The Ray Man trophy would make sense if there was a Ubisoft rep
Oh god please not the rabbids
I think I am in the minority here, but I think a second sonic rep has a fair chance of getting in
>Eggman gets in.
>All the other old designs for him are alternate costumes.
She is literally a Marth clone aside from the fact that her sword doesn't have a "sweet spot" like his, it's powered up throughout the entirety of the blade. Someone post that fucking miiverse comment from Sakurai
I didnt know I wanted this so much
Being realistic though, it would probably be tails. Eggman would have a larger chance than, say, knuckles though.
This makes sense, but Its just really odd that there is a trophy to a 3rd person character that doesn't have any connections to smash.
nah i think ghirahim is bunk, nobody really has a taste for him all that much and he's a little too new and immemorable. also, that would put zelda at 6 reps, which i personally think is ludicrous
dixie is a tossup, everyone else is pretty much on point except for maybe isaac
I'm not a Gematsu worshiper, but I still think Shulk, or at least another Xenoblade character could make it in. I'd also love Isaac, but we will have to wait and see on that one. And maybe Karate Joe or Marshal from RH if the Smash Run enemy means anything
> Eggman would have a larger chance than, say, knuckles though.
Why? Knuckles is the brawler character of the Sonic series. If anything, he'd fit in Smash Bros the most. Eggman would be pretty cool, though.
>The Ray Man trophy would make sense if there was a Ubisoft rep
Could be worse, could be Just Dance.
Also, Kyle Hyde and Ashley Rose had trophies in Brawl, but no Cing rep. Granted they were a small company, but it doesn't make it a guarantee just because of a trophy.
If Knuckles got in
and his Boom design is an alternate costume,I'd be hyped.
Eggman needs to be a boss character at the very least. Like he brings a giant robot on the Sanic stage and wrecks everyone's shit. That'd be neat.
I was meaning more of eggman is more notable and significant in the series, but yeah good point I guess knuckles would make more sense.
It would probably be tough to make a moveset for eggman anyways
I'm hoping either Ness or a newcomer from Mother 3 gets shown on or around July 27th which is MOTHER's 20th Anniversary.
One of those mother 3 newcomers could be, Kumatora, Duster or Flint which would be amazing but there's like a 0.00001% chance of that happening because nintendo hates us mother fans.
Shit, I thought I was the only one who actually liked his Boom design.I'd be hyped as fuck too.
And Eggman in any capacity would satisfy me, whether he's a newcomer, a boss, or even a stage hazard.
Yeah I got what you meant. But Knuckles has been around more than long enough, not to mention I'm sure he's more popular than Eggman. And while making an Eggman moveset would be tough, it could be pretty hype if done right.
okay, I am a massive anti-ridleyfag here and i want to have nice, honest discussion here.
Why do you think he is in so much and why do you think the boss direct didn't mean anything?
I am not trying to start anything, I really want to know why so many people think stuff like this.
Ridley for Metroid, Impa with Hyrule Warriors design for Zelda.
Shulk, Dixie, Mewtwo are my lock ins.
Nintendo will want to push Xenoblade like they're doing with Fire Emblem.
Dixie was cut from Brawl and DK series seems to be getting attention this time around, I fully expect to see a Dixie reveal trailer featuring a Gangplank Galleon stage with K Rool stage boss.
Mewtwo was also cut from Brawl and 64, Sakurai seems to like him and he's generally popular. Had a recent movie. Wouldn't be surprised if he were brought back.
I'd say maybe Mach Rider since he was considered for Melee and we don't have a retro rep yet. Who knows.
>It would probably be tough to make a moveset for eggman anyways
>Pilots the Egg Walker from Sonic Adventure 2.
>Shoots lasers and missles.
>Up-B hovers in the air.
>Has a boxing glove pop out of the front.
>Throws Badniks at the other players like Dedede does with Waddle Dees.
>Pic related is final smash.
This would be so fucking hype and you all know it.
>with Hyrule Warriors design
Shit tier taste. And I don't even like Skyward Sword.
>Oooooor K Rool could be playable? Maybe?
I wish, but I doubt it. Sakurai isn't fond of implementing big characters, or villains, and now he has devised a way to kill two birds with one stone in that regard by relegating any potential big villain newcomers to being stage bosses. Combine that with Kremlings and a "big Kremling" boss in Smash Run, and I'd say that the as of yet unrevealed Wii U DK stage will be a Gangplank Galleon stage with K Rool stage boss. The trade off being that 3DS gets Kremlings and maybe Kludge or Krusha, while Wii U gets K Rool.
i'm hoping the reason that they haven't revealed wario yet is to reveal mach rider along side him
cause mach rider's whole moveset would basically be based on wario's side b
that would also be a good time to reveal ice cilmbers as well
I could see the Rabbids as an assist trophy.
I'd actually be more than okay with that, the first Raving Rabbids was the best tech demo that any console ever had. Sure, the ones after that weren't that great, but the original was pretty fucking neat.
>Unless they're throwing around clone spots like they're nothing, in which case we might get a few more Lucina-esque characters (Black Shadow for Ganondorf etc).
I kinda get the feeling that's what they're doing. It would explain the Dark Pit in Palutena's trailer at least. I've got no problem with it so long as there's more than enough real newcomers and it's not like Melee again where half of the newcomers were just shit clones.
Plz no. I think Dark Pit will just be an Alt costume for Pit.
Give us Hades, Veridi, Thanatos, Magnus, Phosphora, Arlon, Dynatos or Medusa. Literally ANYONE over Dark Pit as his own character.
Dark Pit would need nearly no work, and he could easily be different. Clones are way easier to add; Sakurai said he could've put Dedede in Melee if he didn't put in the 6 clones.
Yeah, if the clones are hidden until release and we just see all the new stuff, then it's just a bonus. I'd be fine with that.
SS Impa is a good design, don't get me wrong. But honestly look at HW Impa. There's just more detail there, she would have a playstyle that distinguishes her from Shiek and Nintendo could indirectly advertise HW like they did with Roy in SSBM.
My only problem with Dark Pit would be that his alternate colors would pretty much be indistinguishable from Pit's.
I mean, what do you do with a character who is essentially a recolor already?
I'd be more than okay with Pit's name changing to Dark Pit and also getting a unique voice if you select the black color option, though.
Honestly, most of my hate for them doesnt come from the fact that there games are bad, but more from the fact that they almost killed Ray Man as a series.
they are also really annoying and I dont get the appeal to characters like that (such as the minions)
I'd have said Chrom was one of them. So would most everyone. Now it's open season. Lucina was Ashley/Skull Kid/Waluigi tier in terms of probability, meaning popular but unlikely to be more than an AT. But now? Go fucking nuts. It's open season.
I almost believe Ridley will be playable now.
Most likely, there will be 50 characters in the final game.
But I hope Sakurai brings back Jigglypuff & Ness back.
>Big Kremlin Boss
>But guess who isn't a Kremlin?
Is K. Rool a Kremlin...?
there is no possible way he would exclude jiggles or ness, they are part of the original 12
which is a shame because its at the point where jigglypuff is a massive waste of a slot
Fill in the blacks, faggot
>Most likely, there will be 50 characters in the final game.
I'm hoping they completely blow all expectations and have like a 60 character roster. That'd be hype as fuck.
And they'd all be blue haired sword users.
Doubted Ridley and would love to see a shitstorm, but no news about Ridley has been shown so there's a possibility Ridley could be in the game as a playable character.
>Shoe-in for the game
Game and Watch
>Unlikely to return
if they start including the characters from their second string franchises like custom robo, maybe.
but judging by how many modern characters are being added to the roster so far, i don't see that happening at all.
frankly i'd be surprised if we even get another retro character.
But other people
know him wellenough to be playable, right?
>its at the point where jigglypuff is a massive waste of a slot
Nigger Jiggly has potential to kick ass as a character as shown in 64/Melee. She's a great and unique fighter with a creative moveset.
We thought the worst thing tomorrow would be Rabbids.
We were so so wrong..
>pretending to start a rivalry because you like to argue about Smash Bros.
Oh, well. Everyone's got their own premeditated inclinations, I suppose.
>judging by how many modern characters are being added to the roster so far, i don't see that happening at all.
That's what bums me most. Obviously I get that they'll add Newtendo reps because advertising like the two new FE reps, Rosalina, whatever, but the newbies are overwhelming classic possibilities. And they're from franchises that are already in.
neither was ness in melee actually, but he was in brawl
i bet ice climbers will get a vet update then, since no one really "loves" them like falcon, they can be last or close to last
Post yfw /v/ erupts into a shitstorm when Ridley is revealed and confirmed playable.
Nothing special about him, just the average nondecript grunt
Bout the best I can make of that.
Mewtwo (old-ass veteran, Mega Mewtwo makes him relevant)
Snake (very popular in Brawl, MGS3DS makes him sort of relevant)
Any big-name villain like Eggman or K. Rool for more villain variety
fuck you I am not walking into that joke a KT character due to Zelda Musou, either a ZM-specific character like Cia or Lana or an actual musou character like Yilong or Fengxianand because ZM is presumably not the only KT game on a Nintendo console
What are you even trying to say?
He's a shit character from a shit game and he'd just be another piece of shit with a sword. What else is he going to do? Shoot out fucking diamonds? Fuck anybody dumb enough to want that one-off piece of garbage.
So, would Mewtwo transform into MMY or the more-fitting MMX? It is part-Fighting after all.
>going on /v/ after the reveal.png
All of those would be fantastic. Perhaps they can make room for them in Smash 5 by removing around ten of their fifteen anime swordsmen.
I think there's a way to do Jigglypuff right but they haven't done it yet. Even at her best she's repetitive and gimmicky and half of her moves were useless. I'd rather they just cut her altogether.
>This won't be the final roster
I truly belivied it was going to be for a second...
I don't give a shit about either of them. I just can't think of anything better for those 2 spots.
It's weird, you know? We've lived under the tyranny of leakerfags for so long. They always immediately piled on and shat on you whenever you doubted their false prophet. I guess I'd grown so used to it that I can't really think of anything else now that they've been disgraced. I was just trying to conform to the format of the person who posted it.
I'd really like it if K. Rool and Bandanadee made it in though.
> not wanting to see a series that has been in Smash since the beginning get another rep
> thinking people who think otherwise don't like the series because no reason given
The more I think about, the more sense the Chorus Kids make
>They're in a group; half of the rhythm games in any RH game are of the 'copy what the other 3 do'
>Out of all the characters in groups, they're the simplest, most iconic and make the most thematic sense
>RH itself has sold super well and is one of the better new Nintendo IPs
>Not realizing that Toon Link and Lucina practically guarantees the return of the other two clones.
Isaac's a good point, though.
The Metroid trophy in the same direct leads me to believe there's another Metroid rep, since it holds to be consistent with the other trophies getting reps.
Also, the absolute neglect of actually showing Ridley is incredibly fishy. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a stage boss, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was playable.
Not going to say shoe-ins, but the following characters are the only ones I could see making the cut at this point:
Rhythm Heaven rep
Either the Rhythm Girl who appears on the title screen for each game, Marshall due to being an attempted mascot, or Karate Joe for appearing on the first level of the first game and being in all 3 games numerous times.
It's going to be Marshall, he is going to have a moveset based on all of the RH games, since its a better representation of the games this way.
He is going to have the Chrous Kids "AAHHH" as an attack or taunt
the only thing those trophies have in common is that they're all in the game, and they all come from series that have characters in the game.
the pseudo-palutena one is the only tease that doesn't require looking way too deeply into everything samurai does
>People still think Ridley isn't in
Lol. You guys do know he delayed the game for a reason, right? It was probably a BIG reason.
Use your fucking heads.
> implying Sakurai will ruin Ridley
Yeah me too, he butchered Captain Falcon, Game & Watch, Pac-Man and other characters thought impossible to pull off properly. Get over yourself man and just realize he has a popular demand and the fact he's been teased about for the past year more than likely means he will be revealed.
>Chorus Kids, Shulk, and Mewtwo are so likely they're almost a given
May I ask what brought you to this conclusion?
Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run with no other sign of the series.
Nintendo is gonna want to promote Xenoblade like they're doing with Fire Emblem.
Sakurai has wanted Mewtwo in every Smash game.
>still bringing up gematsu leak
>All but sure tier
Wario, Jigglypuff, Falco, Ness, G&W
>More likely than not
DK (K. Rool, Dixie, or Cranky), Zelda (Ganondorf and/or Tetra), Ice Climbers, Lucas, another Star Fox char (Wolf or Kursed)
Shulk, New IP (maybe Rhythm Heaven), a 3rd party character
Kirby character, Dark Pit
>Obligatory vanity pick
Leak got BTFO, but tie-in characters are still good bets.
I wasn't even a leakfag, I wanted Chrom in before Gematsu. Aside from Mega Man and maybe Ness I have nothing.
Like, the entire next six months, the only thing I'm hyped for without any anti-hype occuring is Guardians of the Galaxy.
>captcha- octsbes spermine
>Rhythm Heaven enemies in Smash Run with no other sign of the series.
Rayman is an assist trophy but there's no other sign of the series, so are the Rabbids going to take up a slot?
That logic is retarded.
EVERY OTHER THREAD
ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE ONE-DOUBLE-OH.
He's not even an assist trophy. He's just a trophy.
Countless games have been trophies without a representative.
The Ghost is the only mook in Smash Run so far, bar original Smash enemies, which doesn't have a representative from their franchise.
It's faulty logic to assume that means there will be a character though.
It could be just an added enemy, or there could be multiple enemies without playable reps that have yet to be shown off yet.
>this character has enemies from his series appearing in a game mode where you face off against enemies from the roster characters' series'
>this character is a basic Trophy
>this is comparable
A little boring but i was trying to stay realistic.
Despite the leak, i still think Shulk has a decent chance as well as a RH rep whoever it may be. A few months ago I would not have expected even 45 characters but it looks like we can very well have 50. My expectations have been exceeded. I am content from this point on regardless of who gets in.
I should also add that, in addition to them not being at a loss for nintendo enemies, that ghost is a MASSIVELY deep cut.
It would be really odd that of all hundreds of enemies they could possibly pick from represented and unrepresented nintendo franchises, they would pick that one from rhythm heaven, who's not even an "enemy" per se.
it all adds up massively in favor of their being a RH character.
i mean who knows, but the odds are higher than a lot of other characters.
Nigga has a point, but not the point that he thinks he has.
There's so much "sakurai said" shit floating around that most of it is probably not shit that he's said. "Sakurai said no more clones!" is the perfect example. He never said this shit. Ever.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Ice Climbers, Ganondorf, Falco, Wario, Meta Knight, ROB, Mr. Game and Watch all range from shoe-ins to unlikely to be cut.
Wolf and Lucas are in a bit of danger but are probably gonna be fine.
Snake, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are kill.
There's probably about 4 or 5 more newcomers left.
>There's so much "sakurai said" shit floating around that most of it is probably not shit that he's said.
But he actually did say that. I remember it. Not from rumours or word of mouth after the fact. It was in an early discussion on the game on IGN and other sites.
Lucas probably has a better chance than Wolf since there isn't a well known female clone to swap him out with, especially from Mother 3.
Even though I hated how Wolf played in Brawl, I'd much rather have him back than the alternative.
are you talking about krystal?
don't worry, we only get characters from the games that sakurai liked
and there's no way sakurai enjoyed the shitty star fox games that krystal was in
Maybe if people would actually follow this game I wouldn't have to because it'd be as common knowledge as Little Mac being in Smash. Good luck searching the internet for a Sakurai quote from more than a year ago now.
Here's where he says something similar by the way about roster size, but its not the one I was talking about: http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-change-of-direction-may-be-needed-for-next-smash-bros/
But that's my entire point, he NEVER said there would be no more clones. People claimed he said the same shit during Brawl's development, but he didn't.
He NEVER said this, and you people keep thinking that other people saying he said it means he said it.
you betcha, i was really surprised he wasn't brawl. i think he would make an interesting addition.
If only that was true.
The designs for Samus are all Other M. Priority is given to female characters. New Star Fox coming out.
I mean, it's probably not going to happen, but I wish I had your confidence that the game won't get Kursed.
I personally believe the boss thing was a misdirection. I know I could be wrong, but it's just what I'm going to hope is going on. Sakurai stated other boss characters, and Bowser is himself a boss character. We've also yet to see any other boss characters revealed outside of Dedede. Where's Wario, Ganondorf, Wolf, or even a boss character newcomer?
He only showed Ridley's shadow and only implied that he was a boss. You don't have to take the shadow analysis as fact, but comparing his body (since the wings are in the z-axis and not a problem) he's on par with Bowser in size. Since every shadow in the same location will distort in the same manner we can gauge his "bigness" to others.
He's been teasing Ridley for nigh unto a year now. Next month is 1 year since Pyrosphere stage was shown. That's a long time to not show a boss hazard you've been hinting at don't you think? We've seen every other boss hazard so far that got shown. Not fully showing Ridley is just weird.
The shadow moved without scripted animations, much like a playable character. Some say he may not have been finished but since they didn't even so much as tease Yoshi due to how he stood I just find it unlikely they'd show something unfinished.
He's heavily requested and those that request him don't mind if he's tweaked to be viable and playable. Much like how Ganondorf isn't godlike in power unable to be killed by only the Master sword, Ridley would be tweaked as well.
I don't think he's for sure to get in but I'm not taking Sakurai at face value. He's lied about character reveals before. Remember how he said Namco got no special treatment for helping to make the game? This was a lie, because he stated the roster including Pacman had been finilazed near the very beginning two years ago. I think it's possible he's "lying" for a Ridley reveal.
Yes I typed a lot, but I wanted to be thorough since you asked civilly. Yeah it's probably autistic but they're the reasons I have some hope.
>But that's my entire point, he NEVER said there would be no more clones.
he has implied it that he doesn't like clones
>"from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.”
his interview quotes aren't gospel though.
Everybody changes their minds.
>Pyrosphere stage was revealed in Mid August
>It's been over a year since Sakurai has hinted at the Pyrosphere boss, yet still hasn't shown him
>For nearly a year
It's almost the Pyrosphere's One Year Anniversary since its reveal, think we'll finally get something then?
I think we're going to know 100% Ridleys status next month. I hope it's positive for those that care because an entire year without them explaining anything for it to turn out as just a boss is rather cruel. I know the shadow implies he's just a boss but it's obvious that teasing with a shadow would get people worked up.
>End of Nintendo Direct
>Flaming Smash Cross Appears
>"Aww Shit Here we Go!"
>Samus is running down the hallway as a space station self destructs around her
>Finally Reachers her craft as she dodges debris
>Suddenly a Giant figure blocks her path
>RIDLY SIZES UP!
>Amazing Prerendered battle takes place as a self destruct timer counts down
>Samus is knocked down and time is running out
>Ridley goes in for the final blow!
>Suddenly a plunger shoots across teh screen and lands on Ridleys face and teh Music cuts out
>Both Samus and Ridly look off screen
>Camera pans over to a lone Rabbid who pauses for several seconds, then makes his trademark scream
>"Rabbids Crash the party!"
>Timer runs out as teh rabbid finishes its scream and the station blows up
Ill take two please
he just looks so much like a playable character in the trailer
the way the abruptly stops and starts.
there's no way that's boss AI
like it's possible it's just because they were controlling him in order to get a good shot for the trailer, but man...
I hope the direct is sooner than the 20th. Next month is Metroids anniversary too. One year since the pyrosphere tease, 28 years since NES Metroid, and then you have the shadow. I know people around here love tears and hate people discussing Ridley but for all of this to lead to something that would just upset a lot of people doesn't seem right. There'd be better ways to handle it than going through all these hoops. Doesn't matter I guess. People are going to want him out to spite others no matter what. I just hope Sakurai took on the challenge and found a way to make everyone happy with Ridley, like he did with Pacman.
If Ridley gets in I want his trailer to hype it up and tease it right to the very end. I want them to give us just enough information throughout to know who is coming, to keep yanking the chain right before we see him each time. Maybe even let us hear him yell or something. It'd be so great.
That's what I think too. Instead of scripted animations he's choppy and moves from one to the next very quickly like a playable character has to.
The thing that seems to be the most controversial thing about it is that he's in the air for quite a long time. This could be his new mechanic however, much like Mac is all about the ground, Ridley could be all about the air. Perhaps he has a glide like Peaches? The more jumps he takes before the glide, the less it will last or not work at all. Something to make him not able to fly like Meta Knight from Brawl but let him move vertically well enough for battle.
You guys who still have hope for Ridley, thank you. It's why I even bother to come into these threads. Just to see those few anons who still give a damn and hold out hope. I don't have much any more but seeing you guys give a damn about it makes me happy. Thank you.
This is how I think the roster is going to look. Maybe not exactly like this as far as characters go, but the number. In Brawl the character slots scrunched down into rectangles when they had been squares. You can't just take the exact sizes of the starting roster boxes and have them fill out the screen. I'd wager they did this so people couldn't gauge how many were on the roster.
>g&w deconfirmed at the end of the pac-man trailer
>r.o.b could likely return, but might be removed due to sse being canned
>snake almost definitely scrapped in favor megaman
>mario, always the series in smash with the most number of reps, caps this installment at 5 characters, which pokemon has already achieved (pikachu, charizard, greninja, lucario, presumably jigglypuff)
Giving up now after 13 years would be stupid. I'm on the ride until it's over. Heaven or Hell, let's rock.
Sounds like the pic of the day is explaining Robin.
>Pic of the day. The Levin sword and tomes are Robin's life lines. The Levin sword can be activated by using smash attacks--you can even activate these moves in midair! However, just like in the original game, the Levin sword can be used only a limited number of times before it breaks, at which point it takes some time to regenerate. When the Levin sword is unavailable, Robin fights using the bronze sword.
>The way Robin launches Arcfire is kind of crazy—he or she calls down a bolt of flame from above, then launches a pillar of fire! By the way, Robin’s tome changes with each special attack.
>adding women and faggy kids as FE reps
>not adding badass manly villains
Fuck this gay earth.
man, they're really doing some cool shit with all of these new characters
i don't exactly like the actual character choices themselves, but the design has taken a massive step up
>YFW Ridley's introduction is just done exactly like Gurren Lagann's final fight, music included
Perfect way to end 13 years of hype
You... really? A kindhearted person on here? I'm kind of, I don't know. I'm so use to arguing on here I kind of don't know how to respond. Thank you. May you get your most wanted Smash character revealed.
That's kind of difficult to replicate. People love that Mega Man is in but Snake topped it mainly because of sheer surprise. Because Snake opened the floodgates it's kind of difficult for most third parties to be a surprise. It would take something like Banjo who is pretty much impossible in order to top Snake.
probably the most surprising character they could add at this point would be cloud from ff7
but that would be pretty fucking weird and lame
i guess they could always just reveal that snake's back
that would be a surprise
Yeah Cloud would be a lot more polarizing than Snake. Though an old FF character probably wouldn't be unwelcome. Like a Chocobo, Moogle or Warrior of the Light would probably be well received.
>nobody really has a taste for him all that much and he's a little too new and immemorable
...Where the fuck have you been these past few threads? Plus everyone's already losing their shit over him getting in Hyrule Warriors.
>nah i think ghirahim is bunk, nobody really has a taste for him all that much and he's a little too new and immemorable
He's been really popular ever since Skyward Sword's release, regardless of the game being a bit lackluster
Why not the Black Mage? Incredibly iconic Final Fantasy character, and has been in Mario games before.
Alternatively the Slime, iconic Dragon's Quest character, has been in Mario games before.
I wouldn't consider HW threads as a good indicator of how Smash fans would react. HW threads are mostly waifufags and LoZ fans, Smash threads however are made up of a much larger and diverse audience who probably wouldn't really care about him.
Jack Frost? Atlus has a long history that's been beneficial for both of them, with Atlus giving Nintendo tons of crowd-pleasing exclusives. Not to mention Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem is a thing.
>Implying Zelda doesn't have as big of a playerbase as Mario, and that the Smash and Zelda audiences don't overlap
Dude, there have been at least ten posts in this thread alone claiming he'd be a likely candidate. He's pretty popular.
I think the top three most likely third parties now are:
1. SE rep (Black Mage, Slime)
2. Konami rep (Snake, Belmont)
3. Jack Frost
I think the Rayman trophy is just some random odd cameo and they won't get a full character.
Zelda is nowhere near as big as Mario. It's on par with DK.
On the Rayman, do you think there'll be Third Party trophies? Say, a section for Third Parties, and each third party has one trophy of their mascot.
Say, Atlus gets a Jack Frost trophy, Marvelous gets a Farmer trophy, Wayforward gets a Shantae trophy, etc. What other Third Party trophies do you guys want to see?
HORNY SHORT FOR THE HORNED REAPER trophy for EA.
It's possible though the Rayman thing may just be some weird outlier. Third party negotiations can be complicated so it's hard to say what could happen.
Those would be great but I doubt Capcom would get a second character and Layton sadly can't compete with the other third parties who are literally some of the biggest names in video games.
i can't even think of any more iconic video game characters they could add
i think the real problem is if they start includnig 2nd string 3rd party characters like simon belmont or bomberman, it's going to start to look cluttered
even though both of those would have a cool moveset probably
It really depends on multiple factors, mainly roster size and character choice. Like a 50 character roster shouldn't really exceed 5 third parties, and even then it should only be that many if they are big names like the ones we have. Ones from Castlevania or Final Fantasy would be fine, or ones that are pretty much exclusive like Layton.
Oh god, i had no idea. Rest in Peace, old friend.
Truly truly want her to happen, but I just don't know..
Please align properly, stars and planets.
I like this. I like this a lot.
I'm really hoping for this.
>g&w deconfirmed at the end of the pac-man trailer
K. Rool would be cool, but realistically I'd bet that fucking Walrus Viking Guy from the most recent DK has a better chance.
And Walrus Viking Guy's chances are basically 0, so that tells you something.
Let's say someone goes back in time to the initial announcement of the game(not the trailer, just the confirmation that they were making the game) and took the OP's image with them. If they showed it to past /v/, what would they make of it, and what would they dispute?
>sonic tails and knuckles
>Sonic is the fastest
prefers your aaass
>hard hitting slow sonic
>if these three get in then it's going to be the fox bunch in heghog form
Shulk is guaranteed to get in.
>new Nintendo IP
>exceeded sales expecations
>has a sequel on the horizon, could potentially become a series in itself
>tons of stage potential and extremely good music from the game
That being said, at this point it looks like everyone from Brawl, with the exception of Pokemon Trainer and MAYBE Snake is coming back this time around. Quite a big roster, assuming there are a minimum of two more newcomers that will be revealed before launch.
but Mecha Ridley is still the same Ridley as Super Metroid Ridley, his defeat in SM leads in to get the mechanical enhancements, MOM Ridley is a different entity all together since he is a clone of the original
This bitch would cause a bigger shitstorm than Ridley. Everyone already dealt with Ridley not being in for 3 games. Why not make it 4 since he's a stage boss?
>bowser is the only confirmed villain so far
No, Dedede isn't a villain.
It's spacing issues.
If they made another Newcomer banner, it would mean they have 4 veteran slots open and that would look sloppy as hell on the main site.
Also the character reveal artwork has both her and Robin on it.
Kirby, depending on how you look at it.
Its to save space since her and Robin got revealed together, they are from the same series, and so they only need one piece of art for both of them. That is literally all it is.
I think Shulk still has a pretty good chance as well as another Donkey Kong character. I also don't think he'll be in, but it's still too early to say that Ridley is definitely not in. Sakurai is very aware of who people want in. He just doesn't care.
Good, get rid of them, also Rob, While were at it lets get rid of Gay man watch
As long as Wario, Snake and Rob wont return this roster is going to be the best one so far.
> 4 Fire Emblem Reps, No advanced wars Reps
> Adding a character as bland as fuck, rosalina, instead of adding any of the girls from the wario franchise (Captain syrup anyone)
> Having 4 pokemon reps and only 2 DK reps
Honestly this roster has been a massive dissapintment. There are so many character slots that have been wasted, when sakuri could have gone for some past nintendo characters that people had forgotton to create nostalgia and intrigue he just went all out Neo-Nintendo.
THe only good adds were megaman, Little Mac and Wii fit trainer.
Why should that matter?
Ice Climbers got in with 1 game and no story.
ROB got in with no games (well gyromite and stacker I guess) and no story.
Roy got in without a game existing yet.
F-Zero didn't have a story at the point Cpt Falcon got in.
>Fucking pissed at Nintendo because they won't
put K.Rool in or give MM4 any representation
>Pretend to think K.rool is a shitty character, MM2 is the best Mega Man game, and that the new roster is perfect to try to make the pain go away
>It still hurts
>Regular attacks are eggman using fists and dashes and shit in the walker
>Specials are lasers, missiles, and little badniks
>Standard B is the target lock on from SA2
Rory Campbell then. A good Highlander name.
Let's settle this guys
>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW that actually want Dark Pit playable.
Mark my words, when he gets in, It'll be the blunder of the century.
The villain trailer could have the Walrus show up, but throw off his coat to reveal it was actually K. Rool the whole time. Then we see him in action and before it ends we see playable Ridley and his moves. Veterans being Ganondorf, Wario, and wolf. If it's the last trailer before launch it could be five minutes long too so it wouldn't be out of the question.
Only children think clones are a waste of a slot. When I was a kid playing Street Fighter I thought Ken was a waste of a character. Turns out, every clone plays differently cuz they've sunk tons of money into these games and they won't palette swap characters happen.
>I think the top three most likely third parties now are:
>1. SE rep (Black Mage, Slime)
>2. Konami rep (Snake, Belmont)
>3. Jack Frost
>not Tecmo, who made the latest Metroid and Zelda games, and made the Fatal Frame series exclusive to Nintendo
Just like how you were pretty sure you had Sakurai pegged down and knew Chrom/Shulk would be revealed on Monday huh? At this point the trophy theory is more solid than Gematsu.
This is a reasonable theory.
Also, Sakurai apparently has this policy that the names of newcomers are never spoken, seen or revealed until they're officially revealed (Palutena's name was never said or typed, even when Sakurai had the chance to do so), though Pseudo-Palutena messes that up.
I got inside information while I went to NoA today, and I got an actual roster with me.(I took a mini-cam photo.)
Here's what is still not on the website(I won't post unlockables.):
- Mr. G&W
- Ghirahim (with Demise final smash)
SCREEN CAP THIS.
AW character only works sort of with Snake's moveset, but I could live with that.
I expect him to return, though, if only because everyone has written him off. Never doubt the Master.
Do you not know minicams autodelete their content after a certain time just so you can destroy it later?
Well, what do I know, I just took the photo and rewrote what was on the paper.
most disappointing/realistic roster I could think of.
>I took a genuine leak picture but let it get deleted