there aren't really that many more characters worth adding though
sakurai has a really high standard of quality, and i can't really think of 13 more characters that he would consider putting in
i'm thinking there's 4 or 5 more newcomers
no more arguing about Lucas every time I post this, thank you based god.
>there aren't really that many more characters worth adding though
>Nintendo has the widest library of characters in gaming
You could literally just throw a dart at a board of Nintendo characters to pick a good newcomer.
they have tons of characters left, i just don't think very many of them are good enough to make the cut.
like i said, sakurai has a high standard of quality.
cause at this point, aside from a few missing major characters like dixie kong, ridley (lol), king k rool (lol), the rest is just obscure secondary characters that only really devoted fans care about.
i don't think those kind of characters have very good odds.
i mean we still have plenty of retro characters left, but i don't know how many of them they could even come up with a moveset for. Maybe takamaru.
I don't even see all the "teasing" that ridleyfags seem to see.
they showed his tail/wing when talking about bosses.
they said "a enemy from samus' past shows up on pyrosphere"
he a boss, it's not teasing.
My bro works at Nintendo. Here's the official roster.
>sakurai has a high standard of quality.
I threw this together for another thread, might as well repost
i'm not him, but i'm interpreting it the same way.
"each type is treated as a separate fighter"
this goes along with the miiverse post yesterday about lucina having her own slot because she's slightly different from marth
one of the treehouse guys already confirmed that they all 3 take up one slot and it toggles over the random slot. you click the class you want to use in their portrait like you did with sheik/pokemon trainer/etc in brawl
This is Pac-man's official moveset. Anon said his bro worked at Nintendo.
>are you dumb ?
>look on the site Lucina's not a newcomer
They share a slot on the website cause it looks nicer. It doesn't matter if they're one "slot", they probably took three characters worth of development time, so they take three "slots". It's like saying Pokemon trainer only took one slot even though he had three separate, unique, full-fledged, characters.
I could easily see Lucas, Shulk, or Ridley being replaced by someone else. I doubt they'll cut any of the original 12, and I could see them keeping at least Falco around along with Wolf. I don't see why they'd cut Ice Climbers either, but it's anyone's guess honestly.
clones are already confirmed. wouldn't surprise me if we got dark pit, dixie, nook and bowser jr. i removed lucas not because of the gematsu leak but because of the mother 3 teaser at e3. including him as dlc alongside the release would be hype as shit.
I can dig that, probably allows them to removed online easier with jigging the roster all over. This makes making a roster hella easy
Not exactly a roster but whatever
>3 poke clones
>No meta knight
>5 fucking pikmin reps when they would all play the same
>Dark pit not named pitoo
>NO RYTHEM HEAVEN REP
>5 FUCKING LINKS
[SPOILER] TH-THANKS NOT EVEN MAD OUT OF TEN
Would people really be against it? If by some miracle this year long thing of hinting Ridley yet never saying or explaining his role completely turns out that he is playable, would people hate it?
We know there won't be a boss mode where one person utilizes the gamepad because as Sakurai said here:
They're keeping the pad to a very minimal sort of use due to how many controller options the game has and having a pad heavy mode would have other players being neglected. So if all this ambiguity surrounding Ridley turns out he's on the roster would people really not be happy?
>like i said, sakurai has a high standard of quality.
>Sakurai flat out states Lucina is a clone
I'm basing that on the Trophy quiz theory. It's probably wrong, but if they had to choose someone from SS, I'd hope it'd be him. Groose wouldn't do anything and I don't think Demise is a well-enough established character to put him in smash. You literally don't see him until you fight him at the end of the game.
You two are great.
This is bait. No one is this legitimately retarded.
Now that the Gematsu leaks have been proven completely false and unreliable, it's time people knock off Shulk and the Chorus Kids from their rosters.
The most likely character from that leak list was not only NOT included, it completely neglected to mention Robin and Lucina. This only multiplies the error from before of omitting Rosalina and Charizard, both of whom are considered newcomers.
>No isometric boss mode confirmed.
The hope just keeps getting bigger. I always thought that idea was silly anyway. Not only would it be like a slap in the face because you'd be barely playing as the character and they'd not be usable in any other modes, but you'd have people bitching about who gets to play as the "boss". That or people would just not play the mode to avoid such arguments. It'd just make more sense to add the ones onto the roster that people have been wanting.
Thank you, anon
Just me again
Sorry for the late reply.
What's wrong is that none of them can be considered emblematic of someone who has "high standards" for roster choices.
I forgot to mention shit like Roy, BTW.
It's actually more of a joke than a bait, but thankfully someone notices. Not sure how I feel about Karate Joe in the game but Marshall would be great. I already love the roster too much for any newcomer to ruin it for me, so at this point I'm just hoping people get more characters they like.
Actually I would REALLY like Dixie... but K. Rool would be great too.
Hiya Arti. You're a good fella and I appreciate your love for Metroid. May Sakurai deliver us unto the age of Ridley and bring peace to the land.
Or just give us Ridley, peace optional.
Too bad the Gematsu leak has been sunk with all hands lost.
Whoever this leaker is, their information now has an accuracy rate of ~20%. Meaning it's just north of complete bullshit. Sorry Shulk and Rhythm fans.
>it's time people knock off Shulk and the Chorus Kids from their rosters.
Guess they should knock off WFT, Villager, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Mii, Little Mac, and Palutena
>All the remaining newcomers that I hope get confirmed
Don't change the subject.
High quality standards and Sakurai don't belong in the same sentence together unless you're mocking his lack of said standards.
I'd love for Wart to return as a rival to Bowser. He even has the color scheme, build and attire for it.
Him being able to guess a few out there things like WFT doesn't mean the others won't happen. It means he guessed some safe bets. Shulk and some Rhythm Heaven rep could still show up. It's just not as set in stone as some thought. Which I personally never take leaks to hear until after release when the whole roster is known and we look back over them all to see if any of them mostly guessed correctly or were spot on.
I think both can be eliminated quite safely. Roster decisions for this game were made in early 2012 according to Sakurai at the E3 round table.
Looking at the roster selections this go around, we have a lot of barely changed characters and conservative newcomers.
I really like both series, but Shulk and Marshal fans will have only themselves to blame if they keep believing either will get in. Only pain and disappointment waits for you at the end of that road.
>I think both can be eliminated quite safely. Roster decisions for this game were made in early 2012 according to Sakurai at the E3 round table.
Which would be the perfect time to rep Xenoblade and Rhythm Heaven
Except that the leaker has been proven wrong.
SEVERELY wrong, in addition to completely missing Rosalina, Charizard, Lucina, and Chrom.
You can't even offer up a pale rationalization for confusing a final smash for an actual newcomer, it's that indefensible.
... yeah, because lucas is the problem with the roster. definitely.
Gematsu IS dead. I've never believed their bullshit for a second. However, smash run enemy is proof we're getting a rep.
I wish I had your optimism. Well, even if you're just trying to start trouble I still wish I felt this way. I want to think he's totally going to be on the roster but I just can't go full hype. My brain won't go over a 50/50 for his chances. I guess it's better this way though. If it doesn't happen I won't be overly anal exploded.
a lot of those would be pretty awesome.
i'm a little skeptical of the smaller 2nd party characters though. (eg: ray, chibi robo, but especially isaac and drill dozer who aren't very relevant anymore)
only because those kind of characters have a precedent for being made assist trophies or regular trophies.
i would like to see it happen though.
Fine he was wrong
What he predicted:
What we're actually getting:
Some type of RH rep
One or two unspecified clones
The reason the Gematsu leak lasted so long is that Sakurai is incredibly easy to predict. It's inevitable one way or the other
>Welcome to reality, it's fun here for the sane and rational.
I'd like to agree with you but I'm still seeing people with Isaac and Ridley on their rosters
No, he's dead wrong and no faith should be put into the leaks anymore.
He missed Rosalina, Charizard, Lucina, and Robin.
The most likely of the Gematsu leak characters was Chrom.
Why? FE adds the main lord of the newest FE at the time. It's been that way for 3 entries prior. Chrom was a shoe-in, a safe choice.
Instead he gets that shit completely wrong.
Sorry, but Chrom being buttfucked out of the roster motherfucking destroyed Shulk and Chorus Kids chances of actually being in the game. Full stop.
>Sorry, but Chrom being buttfucked out of the roster motherfucking destroyed Mega Man's, Villager's, Pac-Man's, Mii's, Little Mac's, WFT's, and Palutena's chances of actually being in the game. Full stop.
Shulk's and RH still have good chances due to the lack of anyone else worth adding.
Hardly, I'm expect mostly clones from here on out because it's how every Smash ends up
I honestly think if he makes people will be hyped. There will be some shitposters but if it's obvious a lot of people really do want him in. It's just never happened, and people lost faith of it ever happening, so the jokes and memes that came about regarding why it won't happen have started to stick. Some may have a little bit of validity, if not tweaked and worked with obviously, but not all. All it's gonna take to turn people around is seeing a well made, awesome moveset, well designed Ridley and I just know people will go into overhype. My suspicion is a villain reveal trailer with Ridley at the helm next month since August is Metroids anniversary.
>A safe bet is something from Nintendo's Top 5 franchises.
Mario already had a newcomer, so did Pokemon, Zelda's maxed out at 5, Kirby's got the core trio and I hope Sakurai is shameless enough to add another. Can't say for sure who number 5 is
Bullshit m8. If Lucina/Robin had been shown earlier you'd now be standing here and proclaiming that Pac-Man and Palutena will NEVER EVER be in Smash just like you're doing now.
Those characters still have the same chance as everyone else.
Ridley? K. Rool? I honestly expect another Zelda rep considering FE now has 4. I know everyone shitflings about it but it's literally been 11 months since Sakurai first hinted at Ridley and we've not gotten any pics of the day discussing what he does as a boss. If the Ridley "boss hazard" isn't done by now that's pathetic. Since both Krool and Ridley are highly requested, and we know there's going to be one more reveal before release at the least, which do you think would generate the most hype? Shulk and and a dancing rep, or Ridley and K. Rool?
>Ridley? K. Rool?
>I honestly expect another Zelda rep considering FE now has 4
Zelda's not getting more slots than Mario
>Shulk and and a dancing rep, or Ridley and K. Rool?
In Japan? Shulk. Japs love the belts and zippers. Ridley and K Rool certainly aren't going to move Wii Us
>Shulk's and RH still have good chances due to the lack of anyone else worth adding.
So they have good chances of getting in... because you think all other possible candidates are complete shit?
I love /v/, I really do.
here's my ideal roster, ridley and k rool excluded
apparently miis and random share the same slot
>So they have good chances of getting in... because you think all other possible candidates are complete shit?
Just look at who we've gotten so far. What this roster has proven is that it was too early to make a new Smash.
I don't think any franchise will get 6 slots
Smash will never be complete until Phoenix Wright gets a spot.
I can understand if Capcom won't allow it, but if that isn't the case and they haven't even considered him, that's disrespectful.
>Can't see it but you might see Olimar tho.
Fixed it for you man
That's because Nintendo knows how to select characters. It's better to surprise within a well known and beloved franchise than to surprise with obscure shit that most people will shrug about and ignore.
Pokemon had six reps in Brawl.
Mario has 5, but Yoshi/Wario "sort" of count as Mario characters. Fair enough though, we'll not count them. Are you sure there won't be a Daisy clone of Peach? At this point anything is possible.
I never said they'd move Wii Us but they would make the fanbase who gives a damn happy. You may find them impossible but I've just got a good feeling. If I'm wrong, oh well, it won't be the first time.
Remember when the leak mentioned Rosalina, Charizard, Robin, and Lucina?
Oh wait. Not only did one of its prospected "newcomers" not pan out, it completely omits a huge chunk of them.
It's wrong about what it predicts, and it's innacurate about the actual newcomers in the game.
Newsflash you idiot, it still doesn't make the remaining two characters "really unlikely". It makes them exactly as likely as everyone else. They've just been taken down a notch from "as good as confirmed".
>they would make the fanbase who gives a damn happy.
A fanbase that will buy the game anyway. K Rool in particular isn't even in the DKCR games. They want characters who will help advertise and sell other popular games hence 2 Awakening reps
>Oh wait. Not only did one of its prospected "newcomers" not pan out, it completely omits a huge chunk of them.
>One wrong after seven right
So Shulk's not 100% for sure. He's just 7/8. Seems about right
Daisy is already a color alt for Peach.
Also, no one smart criticizes Mario or Pokemon having the most slots of any franchise. They are, by far, Nintendo's biggest brands.
Realistically they'd dominate half the roster, with the remaining half being misc Nintendo series.
Keep that in mind when you make roster selection suppositions based on sales success.
You're right. He's just guessing really obvious and extremely likely characters. Shulk is a perfect example of one and likely to get in despite his lack of inside knowledge the way Little Mac and Mega Man did.
Thanks for agreeing
>They want characters who will help advertise and sell other popular games hence 2 Awakening reps
You think that's the only characters that get in? How about all the retro characters? Captain Falcon who hasn't had a new game in ages? (sorry to F-Zero bros but it's a valid example) Megaman and Pacman? All these criteria you guys make up do not matter. If Sakurai wants to put K. Rool and Ridley on the roster to please the fans he will. Some believe he's doing just that. You don't have to, that's fine. To say you know what he's doing however after yesterday is absurd.
Actually it does.
Before Monday: Gematsu leak was suspect as it failed to mention 2 newcomers entirely. Of the ones it did predict, none of them were wrong.
After Monday: Gematsu leak is untrustworthy, believed only by fools and retards. In addition to the two characters completely absent in the leak, 2 more were left out by the leak. Leak now has one mistake for the characters it did predict.
Shulk and Chorus Kids have about a 1%-3% chance of getting in.
Rhythm heaven girl is a placeholder for anyone from the RH franchise, thing that the sneaky spirit inclusion on Smash Run seems to hint. Could be wrong though. Then i have some wild guesses like Layton, the Masked Man from Mother 3,
the big guy
Fire Emblem recently had a hugely popular and successful new entry.
LoZ is not getting 6 characters, especially since its latest game sold like shit and is being ignored in this game aside from Skyloft.
I guarantee you Ridley will be in.
I've never even played Metroid, nor do I care for the character of Ridley. I just don't see how Sakurai would tease him that much just to let everyone down.
I'm the one that should be worried, since K. Rool is the only character I really want
Smash 4 has been almost nothing but blatant advertising picks
> If Sakurai wants to put K. Rool and Ridley on the roster to please the fans he will
Didn't do it in Brawl. I've learned from history enough to see when he's not interested
>He wasn't even leaking at the start. He made a wild guess (WFT) and ran with it. He was only lucky
Guessing Palutena wasn't luck but common sense. Guessing Shulk is common sense as well
i'm not the guy you're arguing with, btw
but if that's the point you're making then i would agree
i do think shulk is one of his less obvious guesses though, but maybe that's confirmation bias
Before Monday: Shulk is a likely newcomer due to placing high in popularity polls and being from a higly regarded recent game. Some guy said he was already confirmed.
After Monday: Shulk is a likely newcomer due to placing high in popularity polls and being from a higly regarded recent game.
You fucking illiterate kid.
>Guessing Shulk is common sense
A game that sold <1M units and is completely unknown outside of Nintendo faithfuls is not a safe bet or "common sense".
Like someone said earlier, if a franchise isn't in Nintendo's Top 5 it's not a "no brainer" or 'safe guess".
He fits into a lot of the criteria these current newcomers have
>Potential for crazy moveset
>Good advertising potential
>Popular in Japan
>Has an "in" with Sakurai because Monolith helped with Brawl
>if a franchise isn't in Nintendo's Top 5 it's not a "no brainer" or 'safe guess".
Little Mac is neither of those but was still a no brainer thans to Punch Out Wii
No matter how much you tell this to yourself, it won't make it true.
That's what I was saying. Something like Mario having 5-6 reps isn't out of the question. It's possible that they could have a hidden newcomer. Maybe Zelda won't get one but I'd not be surprised if they happened to. Sales figures don't matter too much in the long run. Star Fox got 3 in Brawl for example. Metroid getting Ridley and DK getting K. Rool would add two heavily requested characters onto the roster without them being over represented. In fact they'd more or less have their most important characters represented right there.
I'd be fucking shocked if DK didn't get a newcomer. It's just whether it's K. Rool that's the issue in my mind. I hope it is because while I don't hate Dixie he'd just be far more entertaining. If anything Dixie could be an "alt" for Diddy without having to change him/her much. Either give them the same exact moves or just make the moves work exactly the same but give then different animations. Instead of up b using a jetpack, let Dixie use her hair, but change nothing about how the animation works.
Or fuck just make her a clone and add K. Rool anyway for four reps. It's not like the series doesn't deserve it. Keep your hopes up, man.
The second Gematsu leak reads like a fucking wishlist, and I'm glad the shit has been debunked. Samurai with that fucking reveal NUKE.
Everyone used the same rationale for Chrom (and it was even stronger for him, since he had precedent behind his inclusion), and look what happened.
Fire Emblem Awakening is orders of magnitude more popular and well known than Xenoblade Chronicles. Get fucking real. The game is a goddamn phenomenon.
1) I always thought that they looked nicer sideways since that was the way they were fit in melee.
2) The E3 demo seems to confirm they went back with melee arrangement of sideways
3) I hate the columns
4) Some franchises don't fit without this.
>Everyone used the same rationale for Chrom (and it was even stronger for him, since he had precedent behind his inclusion), and look what happened.
How the fuck is that remotely the same situation? Characters from Fire Emblem Awakening were added.
What, you think they'll Fiora instead of Shulk or something?
>Fire Emblem Awakening is orders of magnitude more popular and well known than Xenoblade Chronicles. Get fucking real. The game is a goddamn phenomenon.
Yeah, and Lucina was the most requested character from it in Japan and was shoehorned in as a marth clone solely because of it
These are the same people that also voted Xenoblade as the 6th greatest Nintendo game of all time. Shulk will be forced in the same way
It's not a coincidence. Little Mac gets a new game and then gets in Smash. That's how it works
>He was upstaged by the actual main character from his own game?
>actual main character
>Robin is fucking irrelevant for 90% of the game aside from the very end of the game when the game remembers the player character is important.
The game heavily revolves around Chrom, Chrom's family, Chrom's kingdom, Chrom's army, Chrom's journey, Chrom's quest, Chrom Chrom Chrom Chrom Chrom with some Lucina sprinkled on there.
And if your public education would kick in, you'd realize I pointed out the strong precedent the main FE Lords have in getting into Smash.
But you're going to sit there with your cheetohs covered fingers and tell me a character with NOTHING but rabid fans posting wikipedia links has a more reliable shot at Smash than Chrom did?
Fuck off, you're wasting my time and insulting your family with the stupidity you're spewing. Good night.
He didn't do it in Brawl because he didn't know of the demand. I'm not sure how the hell he didn't but he most certainly does now seeing as he's not brought up Ridley by name or fully shown him doing anything. I can tell Smash 4 has upset you in some way. I may not like every single character on the roster but I don't hate any of them either. There's obviously characters there to promote a game or series, but there's also ones there that are just there. Either it be due to fan demand (Megaman) or veterans (Game n Watch) or just cause Sakurai wants to add them (WFT).
Maybe it's unfounded but people are going to hope that Sakurai is playing this long con to reveal characters that people have wanted for a long time. It's not set in stone, it may not happen, maybe nobody will get anything they want. I personally have more faith in the guy that we're going to be pleasantly surprised.
Did you ever think that all these reveals so far have been the "advertising" ones as you put it to build hype for those that may not be interested otherwise? Get them out of the way first and then start showing off characters that the fans are going to flip their shit over. Ridley, K. Rool, Isaac, Mewtwo, characters like these have not fully been shown as anything yet. Isaac wasn't shown as an assist, K. Rool hinted with Kremlings, Mewtwo fake out with Greninja, and all that shit going on with Ridley. There's reason for these people to have hope for who they want, especially with Gematsu not being the know it all some thought he was.
Chrom was #1 in the most recent character poll in Japan. Still didn't get him in. Lucina isn't even as popular as Chrom, and she only managed to get in as a 100% Marth clone.
Shulk is fucked.
>He didn't do it in Brawl because he didn't know of the demand.
Fucking bullshit. There were polls taken for that game
>There's reason for these people to have hope for who they want,
It's delusion. Gematsu being wrong just puts us back to where we were a year ago, but doesn't change a thing for those characters
54 character roster with a few wildcard newcomers.
DK rep is probably K. Rool, but could be Dixie. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if there's another DK rep with the new series' success.
Despite there being so many Zelda reps already, it'd be weird for Mario, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem to get newcomers without Zelda getting any. Ghirahim makes the most sense as a recent popular character and a fighter.
I can see Chibi-Robo being a secret WTF character. I don't know much about Isaac but he seems like he'd fit in.
The two "newcomer" slots could be anybody, possibly Shulk and a Rhythm Heaven rep.
I don't care much about Mewtwo, but I could see them adding him due to the fan demand and the teasing that Sakurai did with Greninja.
I dunno about Wolf, personally I'd cut him, but I think Nintendo might be a bit generous. Same goes for Lucas.
Don't get me started on Ridley.
Why are you so rabidly defending your ridiculous claim that a character cannot possibly be in Smash because he was at one point mentioned by some random faggot who got some other characters right but some wrong?
>Chrom was #1 in the most recent character poll in Japan. Still didn't get him in. Lucina isn't even as popular as Chrom, and she only managed to get in as a 100% Marth clone.
If I had to venture a guess, I think some unannounced newcomers are all for the major series. That way they're the most recognizable and get the biggest marketing hype.
Mario: One of the Koopalings
Pokemon: Mewtwo with Mewtwo Y as its mega evo
Donkey Kong: Dixie Kong
Legend of Zelda: Groose
Do I think all of these will be original? No, I expect newcomers from here on out to be clones of existing movesets. This game is being rushed HARD.
i could imagine chibi-robo having potential for an interesting moveset, but the more I think about everything else about that game, the less likely it seems to be a possibility.
there just isn't a lot to pull from in terms of stages, good music, etc.
his games were all kind of mediocre.
The leaker said, on Saturday or Sunday, that the character to be revealed was Shulk.
He was dead wrong about the number of reveals AND the characters revealed.
Gematsu leak is bullshit.
>Ridley teased up and down.
>Only implied a boss.
>One entire year without Sakurai discussing said Ridley "boss".
>Despite you and others taking him at face value people still say they want him in.
If you think Ridley has absolutely no chance, fine. It's your opinion and your entitled to it. I disagree with it because there's just far too much up in the air regarding him. With Sakurai stating there will be no gamepad centered functions for Smash on Wii U, I have even more hope that he's playable and not just a boss with a shitty playable boss mode. My apologies for my "delusion" making you upset.
I don't care who's on it, as long as this guy gets in
I'm not getting my hopes up, though...
>I have even more hope that he's playable and not just a boss with a shitty playable boss mode
It just means that he won't be playable period or the same reason the Yellow Devil isn't playable
Ridleyfag here, that guy is being an idiot. Those characters the guy "leaked" may have been his own personal guesses but it doesn't mean it's impossible to happen. Shulk and even an RH rep aren't out of the question. Do you just blindly call anyone a Ridleyfag when they piss you off? Stop that. Bad Anon.
>Do you just blindly call anyone a Ridleyfag when they piss you off? Stop that. Bad Anon.
Because he's either that or an Isaacfag.
Ridleyfags lash out at anything suggesting Ridley won'y be in and Isaacfags were angry about losing out to Shulk
They comprised 90% of the deniers
And I feel you're wrong. Funny how opinions work, eh? Still I hope your most wanted gets in regardless of how badly you want mine to not be.
Must be a lot of people who want Ridley and Isaac then. I hope you won't be upset if Sakurai actually gives them what they've been hoping for. It wouldn't deconfirm your most wanted, you know.
>Still I hope your most wanted gets in regardless of how badly you want mine to not be.
D-Don't say that... B-Baka!
I'm dead serious, even if you aren't that guy. The shitflinging will never end if we don't stop. I want everyone to get at least one of their most wanted characters revealed. I only want Ridley so my chances may be small, but others seem to have several most wanted. I'd rather everyone be happy than to keep this shit going.
From looking over various forums and such the names I see come up time and again are Ridley, K. Rool, Isaac, and Mewtwo. I dunno how valid this is or how much it relates to what Japan wants though. All four of those getting in would make a shit ton of people happy, which is all I want in Smash. That's what it's suppose to be. Playing with Nintendo characters that you're happy with.
Hell another fun thing with it is you get to play with characters you don't normally get to. Villains, forgotten characters, the damsel, etc. It'd be nice to play as K. Rool or Ridley after so long. Or to slap people around with Isaac, again after so long.
Eh whatever, small, nonexistent, it's who I want. If it doesn't happen I still hope others get someone they've been waiting for. Wouldn't want anyone to wait this long only to never get who they want.
Question: Were all newcomers in Brawl revealed before the game came out?
Will they actually reveal all the characters in the game before release or will they leave a couple to be discovered.
there were 3 (and toon link) that were secret
still possible that they'll reveal all the newcomers before launch though.
it could go either way.
although i remember saying sakurai saying he wanted to keep more things a surprise in this game. 
I dont know why people don't consider Ghirahim a shoe-in at this point.
>undispably one of the one good parts about SS
>cameo in hyrule warriors and possibly playable in it
>likely to return in future games as vaati, another fan favorite villain did
I'm dying over here
I used to think he was a dumb choice because the other Zelda reps have all been in many Zelda games, so I thought a one-off character wouldn't be included. But then I saw that Rosalina, Greninja, Lucina, and Robin are included, so it looks like Sakurai is fine with characters that are new or one-offs in their own series. Ghirahim really only makes sense in that context.
i have no idea what's going to be on the roster from this point on.
i feel like all of the most obvious choices were already revealed.
Every other guess could go either way.
maybe dixie kong is the most likely next character, but other than that, i really have no idea anymore.
idk about ridley and k rool.
i'd love to see them, but they're really inevitable.
i guess mewtwo is slightly more likely than a lot of other characters, only because he already has a moveset, and it would be massive fan service.
Sakurai has stated there won't be any modes that take advantage of the gamepad. There'd be no real other way to do a boss mode. So boss mode is out. Ridley has a chance, don't listen to people baiting.
>Good Posture Marth
>Marth (with New Hat)
Someone, call an ambulance because I'm dying over here.
I hope the roster is really big, like at least 50 characters. I think I made one that's big enough
>tfw the real roster is looking dangerously like the GameFAQs-tier rosters you made fun of years ago
That's true, it's pretty bad. I mean Wii Fit Trainer? Mii Fighters? Come on.
And then people come on the internet and they're like "durrrrr well its easier for nintendo to put a character they already own the rights to in to the game", well I don't give a shit. I want good characters.
Basically he wants every mode able to be played by every control scheme and thus isn't using the gamepad for anything special.
Possibly disregard Shulk, but since the RH rep is still very likely at this point, I REALLY want Joe to be the one
I'm honestly curious if people truly honestly don't want him in, or think he has a chance, or what. I know it's talked about a shit ton and people on both sides are tired of it. If there was no constant discussion and uncertainty behind it would most people want him in?
Sometimes the meme of him being too big is funny if used in a way that's somewhat fresh. That coming from someone who's wanted him in forever.
Back during Melee and even Brawl you'd see more people wanting him and thinking he deserved a spot. Now it's just people angry at each other and Sakurai not just showing us his stage boss antics. Other than the crazed fans which pop up for everything what happened between Melee / Brawl / Smash 4 to have such a split on his inclusion?
Pretty Much who I think will be in
Not who I want but who I realistically think will be in
If I wanted, bomberman and simon belmont would be in.
Only ones I am iffy on are K. Rool, and Snake
Mach rider is more of a "new retro character" slot than anything
I totally forgot I put tails in that roster, im iffy on him as well
But I really dont think wolf would be in
He didnt have much to offer, and out of all the newcommers from brawl he seems the most likely to be cut