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Let's be real: if Fire Emblem can have 4 reps in Smash Bros U, there's no reason why Star Fox can't.
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Fire Emblem is a lot more popular and relevant than Star Fox. Star Fox doesn't deserve 4 reps.
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>>253351830

I would just like to point out that literally minutes before said occurrence in the portrait had even blossomed, Sir Fox had asked all his comrades to inspect their Tea Diffuser systems to insure they were all functioning optimally.

Fornicate you Sir Falco
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>>253352142
The tea infuser is a delicate utensil, and not intended for the strenuous use of someone as skilled as Sir Falco esq.
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>>253351830
Seeing as how Sakurai is a lot more interested in adding heroes than villain to the roster, it would be adequate for Star Fox to have its entire, original team added to the roster, Falco could be Fox's Lucina, Peppy is the heavy and strong guy and Slippy could be the odd, tricky fighter that pulls all kind of tech to fight.
Getting rid of some of the most unimportant villains was a nice move on Sakurai's part.
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Get to the porn dump already
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>>253352127
Fire Emblem games have sold 7 million copies world wide, and there are like 11 of them.

Star Fox has sold 11 million copies world wide and there are only 6 games in the series that have gotten a retail release (if you include 643D).

Star Fox still has lots of fans in the west whereas Fire Emblem pretty much only popular with weaboos. Star Fox's fandom is primarily in the West, and Fire Emblem's fandom is primarily in Japan.

I think it is safe to say that Star Fox is a more significant brand in terms of Nintendo's history. Currently Fire Emblem makes Nintendo more money but that's because there hasn't been a new Star Fox game in like 8 years.
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>>253353258
Slippy would have the same gadgets as everyone else because he created them. If they wanted to have Slippy the only way to do him would be to make him slower, and have more powerful versions of the specials that have a chance of malfunction since they're all overclocked or whatever.
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I don't understand how people are baffled at Fire Emblem having so many characters
It's a fucking character heavy series, and is currently relevant
4 characters is like 5% of the series' cast
4 characters from something like Star Fox or Kirby would closer to 80% of the cast
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>>253354002
So you're saying half the roster should be pokemon then?

Oh, wait...
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>>253353769
>Star Fox still has lots of fans in the west whereas Fire Emblem pretty much only popular with weaboos
[citation needed]
/v/ is not the majority, no matter how much you want it to be
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>>253353258
Peppy is old and slow and no-one would want to play as him. There are only so many ways you can clone Fox, and I think they hit that wall in Brawl.
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What are the breast sizes of:

Peach
Zelda
Samus
Krystal
Palutena
Wii Fit Trainer
Rosalina
Lucina
Female Robin
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>>253354187
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=fire+emblem
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>>253354354
John Joseco probably knows.
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>>253354294
Why do people think Slippy or Peppy would be direct clones to Fox? Ike and Robin sure are not clones to Marth, they share a medieval/fantasy theme but they are not clones just because all of them have swords.

Also

>Implying being old makes you useless
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Fire Emblem has a fuck huge cast to choose from
Star Fox not so much
Though I wouldn't mind more Star Fox reps as long as we see some new fucking movesets
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Because the latest Fire Emblem games haven't been as shit as the latest Starfox ones.
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>>253351830
i don't care for either of them. i mean it doesn't rustle my jimmies, but i'm not excited.

i'd prefer something like custom robo or K Rool. anything different than what we have already.
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>>253354147
But the pokemon aren't the cast of characters in the pokemon series. That's like saying the gravity gun and the crowbar are the main characters of the half life series.
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>>253351830
sakurai doesn't like gross, corny character designs.

this is why there's no krystal or k rool to any extent in any smash game.

fight me
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>>253351830
Fire Emblem Awakening sold a gorillian copies and is one of the most popular games on the 3DS. Makes sense that two reps from that game would appear.

Star Fox has been lagging behind a whole lot in the past decade or so. With the 64 remake not doing too well and the WiiU Starfox still its concept stages, there is not really anything new to add. Krystal is a possibility, but she is also a throwaway character with no redeeming values.

They are going to shorten the Star Fox cast if anything. Expect either Falco or Wolf to be axed.
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>>253354808
There are plenty of Star Fox games to look at and in multiplayer all of them play pretty much the same. The source material does not suggest there's any difference between how they would fight, and since Falco is a clone, that means any differences between them would have to be a stupid asspull like Zero Suit Samus's rocket stilettos.
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>>253351830
Same case with Metroid maybe?
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>>253355770
megaman looks gross
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If we do get a 4th rep it'll be either Krystal or Slippy and I'd be fine with either.
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>>253355982
Fuck you he's adorable.
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>>253351830
Its dead, OP. It only deserves one rep.
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>>253355982
mega man is iconic in the video game world
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>>253356059
Naw, it's gonna be Peppy or Pigma
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>>253356131
Then why doesn't he have any new games?
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>>253351830
Let's be real: if Fire Emblem can have 4 reps in Smash Bros U, there's no reason why Kid Icarus can't have 5.
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>>253356232

Fuck you.
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>>253355951
>The source material does not suggest there's any difference between how they would fight

No, but their personalities and talents do, this is why we got lines like "Personally I prefer the air" and stuff (ironically Falco has a better ground game but some of his aerials are very powerful spikes, also his Landmaster flies better than Fox's), they may have the same combat procedure but they wouldn't finish a mission using the exact same methods, they also have different abilities and talents in 64 too.
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>>253356232
idk, those are separate concerns entirely
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>>253354915
There hasn't been a new Star Fox game in like 8 years dipshit. A new one got announced at E3 though and that is cause enough to add another rep.
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>Fire Emblem has more reps than Star Fox, donkey kong, Metroid and Kirby
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>>253356552
A new star fox game that is so early in development, it won't be released for two years (at least)
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>>253356317
Kid Icarus has only had 3 games, only one of which was released within the last two decades. It's already got two reps which is plenty.
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Star fox doesn't deserve four reps
Their series haven't had a new game since 7 years ago
The wii u Game won't be coming until 2015-2016.
DK deserves new reps
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>>253356317
Why botheru when mai waif- I mean, Parutena, can be made more speciaru
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>>253356682
Even though Star Fox U won't be out till 2016 at the earliest, the fact remains that Star Fox is not a dead franchise.
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>>253356664
>brain age has less reps than animal crossing, kirby, metroid, star fox
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>>253351830
>Let's be real: if Fire Emblem can have 4 reps in Smash Bros U, there's no reason why Star Fox can't.

How do people not realize at this point that Fire Emblem Awakening saved the series and could potentially be a series on the rise for Nintendo if they give it enough exposure? Business-wise, yes, it's a series that deserved 4 reps. If Nintendo can get this thing to explode then it's a completely different type of game for them in a genre people actually still play.
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>>253356664
>Star Fox has gathered almost as much money as Metroid

And people think Metroid is a popular franchise.
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>>253351830
star fox doesn't have any more cool, series defining characters yet
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>>253357369
And it never will, because furries will make a mockery of it no matter what it is
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starfox hasn't been relevant for years now. fox is not even on the box art for the 3ds or wii u version. meanwhile, fire emblem has been consistently getting games since the nes days
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>>253356664
>Fire Emblem has more reps than a dead series used only for tech demos now, a series that's hard to take fighters from and a dead series that's hard to take fighters from.
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>>253356846
DK really does deserve more reps. I think Dixie would be a logical choice especially since Tropical Freeze has made her more relevant.
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>>253357737
Fuck diddy on a drag
Give me k.rool and that's enough
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>>253357531
>a shit series is given much more focus than it would ever deserve
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>>253357230
Who thinks that?
I though everyone knew metroid doesn't fucking sell outside north america
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>>253357926
>quality having anything to do with representation
Why are there so many movie pokemon in smash, then?
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>>253358052
>Who thinks that?
Metroid fans
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>>253357991

He said COOL.
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>>253357991
>furry shit from the worst game in the series
>"cool"
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>>253357926
Have you actually played a Fire Emblem game?

Fire Emblem's last title was pretty popular and it has an upcoming Wii U game with SMT. Nintendo typically only adds characters that are iconic or popular new characters. Does Star Fox have either of those?

Whether some franchise "deserves" a fighter in Smash Bros. or not doesn't end where your feelings begin.
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>>253358052
Metroidfags, who else? They are the deluded idiots that think Metroid is popular enough to deserve Ridley and two Samus as part of the roster, they should feel lucky Sakurai split Samus and Zero suit as two stand alone characters.
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>>253351830
Awakening was a very recent and successful game, and both reps are from it. Also the West was pretty much reintroduced to FE with Lucina, Chrom and the Avatar.
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>>253357737
As an alternate, maybe. Still thing K.Rool should take the spot if there's another Rep for DK.
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>>253357991
see
>>253356846
Fuck off with your furry bait
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>>253357369
Feels like bait, but whatever
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>>253357369
Except the original team. All of them.
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>>253358436
>calls post a bait
>posts furry bait
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>>253358436
Fluffy butt needs to be in the game, just saying.
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>>253358436
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I don't understand why people are bitching about the Fire Emblem characters, it makes perfect sense why they were added. If you want to complain about a fighter who doesn't deserve to be there you should probably be bitching about Pacman, who is only in the game because Namco is helping with development and for the novelty of Mario, Sonic and Pacman all being in the same game. Which will inevitably wear off after the first time you have them fight each other.
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>>253351830
I've never ever heard fire emblem mentioned somewhere outside of the the internet; well one time my friend brought it up, but that faggot lives on the internet so who cares.
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>>253357526
They've working on something for the series if E3 was anything to go by.
One top of that, wasn't there talk that the main reason there hasn't been another one up until the Wii U was that they couldn't integrate flight controls with motion controls effectively enough to get it to work?
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>>253358771
have you seen pac-man's moveset? he's awesome

and also you're seriously underselling the novelty of Mario, Sonic and Pacman all being in the same game.

the novelty of characters from different series fighting each other is the entire reason this game exists.
It's the whole point.
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>>253359192
>have you seen pac-man's moveset? he's awesome

Robin's moveset is pretty cool too, but apparently he still doesn't deserve to be in the game. That argument only works for Pacman.

>and also you're seriously underselling the novelty of Mario, Sonic and Pacman all being in the same game.
Dude, that shit's going to fucking wear off almost immediately after the game comes out. The novelty of Sonic and Mario being in Brawl together wore off and that was even more crazy because they used to be huge rivals.

>the novelty of characters from different series fighting each other is the entire reason this game exists.
Nintendo characters, and Pacman is barely a relevant character anymore anyways. Namco is trying to push him and that awful fucking cartoon.

It's worse than Snake being in the previous game.
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>>253358217
Believe it or not Krystal is actually pretty popular.
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>>253358191
She has trigger discipline, which makes her cool in my book.
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>>253359635
[Citation needed]
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>>253359779
I'm sure Tomoko masturbating was better than the picture you wanted to post anyways.
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>>253359779
MOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>253359635
Characters outside of Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda can hardly be considered popular. The popularity of a series doesn't dictate the amount of reps in Smash.
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>>253359604
>that shit's going to fucking wear off almost immediately after the game comes out.

15 years after the first smash bros, and it apparently hasn't worn off of any of us.

this is the primary reason why this game has been so successful for so many years, and if you don't think it is, you are kidding yourself.
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Star Fox is a shit series that got ruined by it's furry fandom.

There hasn't been a good SF since SF64, and it doesn't have enough distinctive characters to warrant inclusion. Be happy that they even have two reps.
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>>253359635
yeah, for the wrong reasons
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>Mfw now that leak is proven wrong there is actually a chance Krystal might get in
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>>253360554
Soooo, what are the right reason?
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>>253360124
Nintendo characters fighting each other is not the ONLY reason people buy the game, and again I said Nintendo characters, not third party characters.

Megaman and Sonic are perfectly fine third party reps. Megaman has a lot of history on Nintendo consoles and Sonic/Sega have history with Nintendo. Sonic and Mario being in a fighting game together is actually cool. Who fuck actually cares about Pacman being in this game? He's like Snake, as much as I love Metal Gear Snake did not deserve to be in Brawl and he was in for a really stupid reason. Just like Pacman is for this game.

My whole point is that if you're going to talk about characters "not deserving" to be in Smash Bros you should probably be talking about third party characters with barely any attachment to Nintendo, like Pacman, and not actual Nintendo characters that you just don't happen to like.
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>>253360840
>mfw Miyamoto is obviously going for the 64 approach on the next Star Fox game that theres a real chance that Krystal might get retconned out of the franchise

Salvation to this poor series is near.
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>>253361065
>gamepad functionality
>co-op in a single Arwing
>episodic approach
Star Fox is doomed to be Nintendo's experimental franchise until the end of time you'll never get another 64-like game again.
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>>253360554
Name 3 female characters who are popular for the right reasons.
inb4 circular popularity like Peach, who took fifty games to have a hint of personality.
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>>253361503
I went back and played Starfox 64 and it's aged really well. Why is it so hard for Nintendo to do things right with the series?
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>>253361720
Because it doesn't sell very well, Nintendo only periodically releases a title to test some kind of gimmick of their console. I guess it's slightly better than getting absolutely nothing.
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>>253361503
>>episodic approach

By this I think they want each Star Fox game to feel like a normal episode of an anime series (they said tv series, but come on, translations and shit) where the status quo is preserved indefinitely (like the Mario games), this would mean that no character ages, no romance bullshit, no characters wanting to go solo because MUH FEELS, etc.
I would welcome this approach.
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>>253360554
Female characters are either popular because they're an empowered womyn who don't need no man that tumblr declares to be the greatest character ever, or because men want to have sex with them.
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>>253361065
Guess what faggot? Miyamoto put her in Star Fox in the first place. He's not getting rid of his furry waifu.
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>>253351830
There's a few reasons:

1. Star Fox isn't explicitly Japanese artstyle and so isn't naturally appealing to Japan.
2. Star Fox isn't a series that Nintendo has been trying to make happen for twenty years and are finally getting their foot in the door with so they want to push promotion hard now.
3. Smash has not always been a vehicle for Star Fox advertisement since Melee.
4. Star Fox has not had a recent game and the new Star Fox is too far on the horizon to have been known to Sakurai in time to help promote it.

Which is why Fire Emblem will get four reps while Star Fox likely will get three, which is still pretty great. You can also apply these reason to most other "Why does Fire Emblem get four reps when [X franchise that has less than four reps] only has [number under four]?" inqueries
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There's no reason Kirby can't get another. At least it had an anniversary, a 100 episode long anime, merchandise, and hasn't been dead for years like most other franchises.
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>>253362594
>He's not getting rid of his furry waifu.

I suppose you can read Miyamoto's mind, also I think he just added to try to capitalize on the fact that shes female, which didnt worked all that well, so a retconning is very plausible.
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>>253351830
Seeing as 2015 is the Year of Star Fox, I guarantee there will be four reps.
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>>253351830
>Most Newcomers Have Been Girls Or Have Option To Be Female
>They Pick Krystal

Let's Face It Fellas, This Is Super Smash Sisters We're Talking About Here...
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>>253362594
That made my night, thank you based anon
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>>253363109
>no female Villager
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>>253363109
ewwww
slippy's a better choice.
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>>253362828
He could have gotten rid of her in Assault but he didn't. Miyamoto is literally the only link between Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault, because they were made by two completely different companies in different hemispheres (Rare in the UK and Namco in Japan). Miyamoto chose to keep Krystal in as a permanent addition to the franchise. She's not going anywhere.
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>>253363109
Waifus sell. All the more reason why Krystal is a plausible addition.
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>>253363473
more plausible
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>>253363340
>I think he just added her to try to capitalize on the fact that shes female

The fan response to her can only be hear coming from all the obsessed furry betas drooling over her, thats not the kind of rep Nintendo would one coming from a character, and seeing how Miyamoto is cooking the rightful successor to 64 getting rid of her will be easier than ever.
Dont worry, bro. Shes out.
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>>253356168
But anon... Pigma is dead.
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>>253363653
I hope she's at least a stage hazard
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>>253363864
>"It will be just like Star Fox 64 guys, wait and see!"

>demo is nothing like Star Fox 64

>"Krystal won't be in the game, you'll see!"

>Krystal has been in every SF game after 64

Your tears will be delicious, anon. Keep brewing them for me.
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>>253363864
>not the rep they want
>Bayo 2 for Wii U only

Don't hold your breath on that one
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>>253364395
>demo is nothing like Star Fox 64
>Demo is literally SF64 3D but with Gamepad controls

Stopped reading there.
Good luck next time.
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>>253364494
>Comparing thematically an M-rated series to a cartoony E-rated series
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>>253364752
>missing the point entirely
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I'm the Drawfriend from last night. This morning I finished that Krystal and Carmelita crossover pic that I was drawing in the old Star Fox thread. I said I'd post it in the next Star Fox thread when it was done so I guess this counts.

Also, since some people were asking about it, I created a tumblr for you guys if you want to follow it. The versions of my pics that I post on the vidyart booru will be higher res due to the crappy limitations of tumblr, but it should at least make it easier for those of you who want to keep an eye out for the stuff I draw in 4chan threads.

http://icantbelieveitsnotheresy.tumblr.com/
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>>253364752
>HURRRRRRRRR
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>>253365076
Awesome job
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>>253365076
>tumblr
Sorry this is a SJW free zone.
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>>253364752
And the occasional T rating every now and then.

Point is, boobs sell. Nintendo wants to sell Wii Us. Mix em together and bam, boobs sell Wii Us
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>>253354187
No really only weeaboos and 2d obsessed japs give a shit about FE:A, muh waifus
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>>253365076
>furfag viraling for their furry friends
This thread is nothing but a furry spam
Krystal will never be in, she had her chance in brawl and she blew it
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>>253364614
Yeah because Star Fox 64 had the gun controls separate from the flight controls, and it also had transforming Arwings.

Did you even bother reading any of the hands-on impressions? Not that they even matter since the stage demo was pretty much Miyamoto dicking around in Unity Engine and can't even be called pre-alpha since the game doesn't have a studio yet. Regardless, it's not going to be Star Fox 64 in HD, no matter how bad you cry about it.
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>>253365076
Do you have any other places that you post art?
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>>253365076
That's pretty good
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Star fox hasn't been good since 64 eat shit.

Only other character I would want would be slippy or the fuckin' rabbit/donkey
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>>253365334
I only made it today because several anons in the thread last night asked me for one.
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>>253365383
and who gives a shit about Star Fox? Especially in this day and age, after all the other games?
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>>253357737
Dixie would be okay only if she's an alt of Diddy.
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>>253365347
Too bad Krystal's boobs dont sell quite well, hence Assault and Command.
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>>253365409
I keep my 4chan stuff separate from my other art. If I post something on /v/ or on /co/ it will appear on my tumblr or on the vidyart booru.
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>>253361720
I still enjoy Assault.
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>>253365696
Even boobs can't save mediocre/terrible games. The game looked pretty but it got damn repetitive
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>>253364614
It's nothing like 64 though. All that was shown were concepts and it looks like the game won't be a railshooter primarily again.
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>Brits
>Leaving the bag in
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It'd be neat if Fox had an alt costume with sunglasses on to be his dad

or this
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>>253365576
Furfags, a big and very profitable market.

Also several N64 nostalgia fags.
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>>253365696
I'm honestly shocked they haven''t tried her

Are they just unaware of the obsessive western market around her character? Shes not even that interesting but she still gets new porn fairly regularly. Few older characters get that kind of attention, especially when none of the games they were in were even good.

She would drive a lot of furries to buy a Wii U. Its not like they have any shame after the Palutena reveal with the hipbumb
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>>253365576
Sorry I didn't mean to imply Starfox was any better. The franchise been dead other then nostalgia

I'm still completely baffled why Wolf even got into Brawl
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>>253366842
>Are they just unaware of the obsessive western market around her character?

Sorry bro, they dont give a shot about what western fans think or do, let alone western furry fans.
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>>253366842
>Are they just unaware of the obsessive western market around her character
a loudly minority?
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>>253365076

I like this. Not only because I'll fap to it, but because it's very well done.
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>>253366610
HE IS THE HE-RER

LEADER OF THE TE~AM
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>>253357737
nah man they need to add King K. Rool
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>pallete swap Fox
>add boobs
>1$ DLC skin
>roll in money
Nintendo is obviously aware how huge furbait shit can get. They threatened to sue paheal ffs.
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>>253351830

Except that Fire Emblem has had 13 mainline games, and Starfox has had maybe 7 games total.
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FE:A was sold out physically for like 3 months, re-issued, then sold out again.

Use the boost to get through that, space furs.
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>>253353258
They should remove fox and replace him with James Mcloud Jr.
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>>253367679
I just want a Krystal Amiibo.
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>>253356232
He did. Mega Man 10 is proof of that.
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>>253353769
>7 million copies world wide
Nice VG Chartz. And no, VG Chartz only shows the games since FE7 and FE12 wasn't released worldwide.
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>>253367679
Nah.
Now, if they added a Wolf with removable pants...
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FE having 4 reps is fine, the problem is that 2 of them are the same fucking characters.
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>>253368416
No. Beach level, alt costumes for all characters.
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>>253368726
Why not just have a swimsuit alt for ALL characters?

Charizard in swim trunks.
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>>253368883
Moar.
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>>253368975
There is a mod on ya know.
I'd rather talk about swimsuit alternate costumes anyway.
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>>253368884
That's what I'm saying man.
CAN YOU DIG IT?
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>>253369087
Oh.
I was just so excited thinking about swimsuit alts I didnt read to the end of your long ass post.
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>>253368726
>Lucina wears her dad's swimsuit
>Mario wears his shirt and shades
What would Kirby look like?
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Wait..has Falco or Wolf even been announced yet as officially returning? don't see them on the main site anywhere unless it's just "implied" like Mario/Link/etc (they're in the box art)

>mfw next reveal is star fox themed and reveals Falco, Wolf, and Krystal
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>>253369197
He'd turn into a beachball.
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>>253368975
>>253368883
No. We've managed to maintain a half decent discussion for this long, I don't want it getting derailed by furry porn now
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>>253369197
He'd probably just have a scuba mask and snorkel.
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>>253369474
If they dont make him into a beachball the creators would have no creativity.
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>>253358528
>mfw peppy hare would be slow as fuck but jump awkwardly high
>mfw slippy toad would be a clone of peppy in every way
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>>253369474
Perfect.
Marth, Ike, Robin, and Lucina all wear Chrom's swimsuit.
nobody said anything about tops
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Is it bad my largest fear for this game is whether or not Jigglypuff still has the Sun Hat costume?

I will be massively disappointed if not.
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>>253369819
I'll be disappointed if Jigglypuff is in at all.
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So if Slippy did get in what could his moveset be potentially I'm thinking something tech heavy allowing him to set traps and gain stage control. Krystal would most likely be a magic quarterstaff fighter which would be cool as well.
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>>253370014
Neutral: Charge Blaster
Up B: Flying Frog Leg
Side B: Slippy Phantasm
Down B: Reflector
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>>253354147

Of course, also donĀ“t forget the upcoming SMT x FE they probably want to make it as much publicity as they can... OH SHIT LUCINA CONFIRMED FOR SMT X FE!!!!!!!
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I want to interrupt this conversation for a moment for some feels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l52coEWyYAE&t=9m21s

;_;
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>>253370303
>>253370014
Final Smash: starts chucking grenades everywhere like a madman something besides the Landmaster clones all over again
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And a bump for prosperity
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>>253370303
I can see the original ideas flowing through this post. It's the most likely to happen though
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Star Fox has a total of 2 good games, and hasn't had a proper new game in over a decade.
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>>253351830
Star Fox should be cut back to just Fox.
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It'd be cool if they added her, but if they don't they don't.

This new Star Fox game is probably going to cause asspain in one portion of the fandom anyway.
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>>253354354
does Krystal have 6 breasts? since she is a fox
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>>253372642
The fans will always disappointed no matter what. The new game isn't looking to be similar to 64 especially with all the concepts Miyamoto has been showing off.
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>>253372873
To be honest I'm not going to be upset if it isn't like 64.

Just as long as it isn't like Command in any way. Hell most people just seem to be happy that a Star Fox game is coming back. /v/ is pretty much the only place where I see that people are going to cry if it doesn't play exactly like 64.
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>The games which Nintendo can advertise the most in the future get more reps
>Fire Emblem Awakening
>Pokemon X/Y
>Kid Icarus Uprising

So Star Fox should have another rep since he's getting a Wii U game?
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>>253372780
2 normal breasts and 4 lone nipples.
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>>253373153
than it should be Krystal as a character since she wouldnt be a clone, and is a female
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>>253372780
She's an anthro fox so no.
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>>253372295
We've covered that at least twice now

>>253370303
Lets see if I can crank one for Krystal going off Adventures stuff here

Neutral: Staff Fire Blaster
Up B: Ground Quake
Side B: Maybe clone of Fox's side B
Down B: Shield (reflector clone)
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>>253372780
>>253373235
stop giving people ideas
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>>253373343
that means nothing, she has a tail still
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Honestly by this point I was expecting someone to say Krystal ruined the series because she has psychic powers.

It always seems to happen in a Star Fox thread accompanied by a picture of Fox and Slippy laughing or some shit like that
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>>253356552

The fact is it isnt dead, Miyamoto even made this clear when he confirmed he was working on one for the WiiU. Apparently they were going to make one for the Wii during its period, but they didnt bother with it because they couldnt think of anything for it that would've made it feel different from the others. In other words, they didnt want to make it a fucking rehash like NSMB.
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>>253358531

>Smug animu pedobait of a vidya character
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>>253373541
What does a tail have to do with how many nipples she has? And besides, you can clearly see that she only has two breasts, and no extra nipples on her abs (she was half naked in Star Fox Adventures FFS). This conversation is taking shitposting to a whole new level.
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>>253373691
I think people already know shes shit so, by now, mentioning that seems pointless.
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>>253373767
Here's the problem: they were making a Star Fox game for Wii U, but they made one fatal mistake. They put Sakurai in charge.

It became Kid Icarus Uprising, which is a great game, but still I am a bit salty that Star Fox ended up going an entire gen without a new console game.
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>>253374469
>they were making a Star Fox game for Wii

I really should have proof read that.
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>>253358697

>Using a minority group as an argument
>Implying a characters importance matters in a fucking party game
>Implying they're not wanting Krystal because of her potentially unique fighting style compared to the seven sword fighters that've been added, one of which is a literal clone.
>Gamefaqs

The autism reeks from this guy, it's not even funny
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>>253373945
Number of breasts/teats on an animal is directly linked to the average amount of babies that species gives birth to. Humans are 1/2, so only two breasts etc.
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>>253374469
I think you mean 3DS. And I don;t remember them saying it was ever meant to be a StarBucks game.
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The internet is going to burn if she gets in isn't it?

And the whole time Sakurai will give zero fucks
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How does such a dead franchise have such a cancerous fanbase?
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>>253375110
Because when a franchise dies the only people left are jaded fans who wish the glory days would return that's why.
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>>253367264
>PUNCH HER
>IN THE GUTS
>HARD
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>>253375110
But the Persona franchise isn't dead yet.
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>>253375110

Is this a new buzzword?
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>>253365076
>Dat Carmelita

Not bad. Not bad at all
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Just give me Falco and Wolf and I'll be fine. I don't need an more characters.
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>>253375110
How did Call of Duty get dragged into this?
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>>253365076
It's okay except for the fucking clown feet they have.
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>>253351830
fire emblem has more well known characters than starfox. simple as that.
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>Brawl

>Why the fuck does Star Fox have 3 reps

>New Smash

>Why the fuck does Fire Emblem have 4 reps
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>>253374806
I should not be acknowledging this stupid argument, but in Star Fox, female characters generally only bear one child at a time, which includes Krystal as demonstrated by the ending where her and Fox get married and have a son. Also, Fox himself was an only child.
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>>253376604
It's like that for pretty much every series represented in Smash
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>>253374793
>So does this mean anything? Probably not, but its worth mentioning.
>Means nothing
>Its worth mentioning.
>Conspiracy theories-level of straw grasping
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>>253378580
Didn't people do something similar with the leak claiming whats-his-butt from Xenoblade had a spot in Monday's reveal?
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>>253351830
>if Fire Emblem can have 4 reps in Smash Bros U
nigger FE has 5 reps
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>>>253378580
>jumps from probably not to absolute negative
If reptilians ever take over the world, I am blaming you.
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>>253379140
Id thank him.
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>>253379059
It's 4
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>>253380925
5 if you count Roy.
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>>253363340
Nintendo outsourced Assault though. And at the time, much like with Command or Adventures, he didn't really care what they did with it
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>>253381769
Still, if he really wanted her gone that bad, he would have pulled the plug early and probably wouldn't have even seen her in those
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>>253381769
Miyamoto was involved with the game. Part of why it's short is because it was originally going to be a first person shooter but it was looking bad, so Miyamoto said to switch it to third person and focus on the multiplayer. That is part of why the campaign was so short.

This idea that Miyamoto hates Krystal and can't wait to get rid of her is nothing more than wishful thinking. He has been a producer on every game in the series and he never had a problem with her. No-one would have batted an eye if she went her own way after Adventures and they never heard from her again, but they specifically chose to keep her around. The amount of emphasis Nintendo put on Krystal in Adventures' advertising suggests to me that they had wanted her to be the main female of Star Fox ever since they decided to turn Dinosaur Planet into a Star Fox game.
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>>253382382

I think it's funny how people attack her, because when you think about it, Adventures takes place after 64, and Fox JUST killed the individual who killed his father. So it'd make sense to have someone to eventually continue to bloodline.

This isnt saying that I disagree that she is a generic character, I am appalled they made her into a shitty damsel in adventures instead of having being playable alongside Fox like what she was supposed to in the original game before it was even turned into a starfox title.
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>>253381372
Roy isn't in the new Smash though
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>>253351830

Fuck Star Fox. It has three reps.

Donkey Kong is the true series that needs another representative.

>Make her an alt of Diddy!

Dixie deserves better. If Lucina can be her on character, Dixie damn well should be too.

>But K. Rool

I'm sorry Retro and EAD were a load of cocks towards the Kremlings. We may get him as a boss.
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>>253354187
Pic related, Starfox 64 fans.
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>>253383652
>I don't care about this series
>therefore it's reps aren't important to anyone
>I love this other series
>therefore it's reps are important to everyone
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>>253383791
I wish.
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But Fire Emblem actually has good DS games
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>>253384013

There's no denying DK needs a third character. Especially over Star Fox's 4th
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>>253384119

>Shadow Dragon
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>>253384119
>Fire Emblem
>Good DS games
The series was dying until Awakening came along
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If Star Fox is so much more popular than FE, why does FE get a semi-annual game while Star Fox is dead?

Also remember to vote

http://strawpoll.me/2113845
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>>253384119
The DS games are ugly, and some of the worst in the series.
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>>253384520
Can I vote "all of the above?"
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It takes roughly 1/6th the dev time of a real character to make a clone
It would take ~6 clones to take the time of one character
For this reason, I have stopped counting clones as full slots
Zelda has 3 slots so-far and Fire Emblem has 3 as well. Star Fox had 1 in Brawl. Or more simply, Fire Emblem has 3 movesets.
Star Fox is a tiny series compared to Fire Emblem, I don't think they should invest a lot of dev time into it. Wolf as a clone would be fine, but I feel Falco is too similar to fox on several fundamental levels to the point where you could just have Falco's old moveset be Fox's custom options.
Krystal would be a welcome newcomer in my eyes due to this Roster's lack of a staff user. However, She would also confirm my fear that Smash is putting characters in for the sole purpose of how many boners they give
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Let's be real: if Fire Emblem can have 4 reps in Smash bros U, there's no reason why Mother can't
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>>253385632

>Lucas
>Was supposed to replace Ness in Melee
>Was instead delayed for Brawl because Mother 3 was delayed at the time, Ness stayed in Melee because of this
>Both Ness and Lucas appear in Brawl
>Lucas is a literal clone of Ness, only with elemental differences
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>>253385632
>creator himself said that he doesn't want to make a sequel
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>>253385632
Not quite
But I can see Ness and Lucas being decloned in some way
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While we're on the topic of Smash does anyone know the best way to practice wavedashing? Do I just take a character I like and use him?
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>>253387231
the thread will die
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That's incorrect though. He had as many differences as any other 'clone' character. Every move had different properties. I mean they both still were pretty bad in brawl but still.
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>>253387231
pretty much, just know that learning wave dashing means almost nothing until you implement it into your play style. I suggest first going to somewhere like FD and just wave dashing across it constantly until you get the feel. then, play against a cpu or friend and try and implement what you learned when you play. you don't even have to constantly use wavedashing, just use it when you think its right.
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>>253354613
>Samus
>Flatchested
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>>253387649
she's wearing a suit though.
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>>253387231
Depends what character you like, if it's one with a really fast shorthop window like Fox it can be kind of frustrating to try learning wavedashing with him. I learned with Luigi since his wavedash is the furthest and most noticeable and has a fairly wide margin of error. (plus wavedashing around as Luigi is fun as hell)
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>>253351830
Let's be real: There are only two good Star Fox games. One average one, two shit ones and a remake.

It's not surprising that Fire Emblem is getting more reps
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>>253387794
What I've been wondering is am I supposed to wavedash at a consistent distance or is it supposed to vary?
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>>253351830
I hate the kind of tea infuser they use 'cause it always lets the leaves get out; mesh is much preferable.
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>>253389180
Not him, but from my understanding of Smash if you're doing the wavedash correctly you'll always go a fixed distance. But like he said, some characters have very short wavedashing (Falcon, Fox) but some have very long wavedashing (Marth, Luigi). Who are you trying to use, by the way?
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>>253389441
I'm using Doc I just wanted to make sure whether I was wavedashing correctly or not.
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>>253389686
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08OdMvPe-Kk

Here's an example of Dr. Mario in movement, Shroomed is a pretty good Dr. Mario.
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>>253389439
I agree actually. I've got one of those kinds and I always have leaves at the bottom. I usually drink it black, so you see it all swirl around everywhere. I do have a strainer though, so if I make a pot there's no problems, but sometimes you don't want to make a whole goddamn pot of tea.
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>>253389981
>Shroomed
I'm still disappointed that he abandoned Doc

>>253389439
>>253390090
I'm gonna be real I hate any drink that isn't fruit punch, water, or some kind of dairy. I can't stand the taste of things like tea or coffee.
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I'm curious how many people here actually use Star Fox characters in Smash?
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>>253393193
I used to be a Falco main when I was a casual
Now I play Roy and Lucas. Even though I can't fucking stand Lucina as a character, knowing she'll play like Roy might sway me to play as her.
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>>253393193
I will then they add the blue fox whore.
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>>253393193
Not as mains, but I still liked them.
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>>253394243
Same here. I don't play at a very high tier but I do like playing as them sometimes. My favorite character to play as is Link, even though he sucks.
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>>253393193
I main falco and play fox sometimes in melee
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>>253397598
>Melee
Best game
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>>253398138
red falco is best falco
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Please let me have my sexy Krystal please.

Please add her in Sakurai.

Please.
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>>253393193
I do but they're mediocre at best.

Fox's design in Melee is and will always be his best design in any medium, though.
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>>253398349
Is she literally not wearing anything under that? fucking blue slut, man
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>>253398349
That shitty 3D model always remind me of those shitty videos.
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>>253398390
Mediocre at best? They're top tier. Even casuals know they're good.
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>>253400215
I'm saying that my spacies aren't that good

Of course they're top tier, everyone knows that
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>>253399350
You'd think by now someone would have made a better 3D model of her. That one isn't even on-model with how she looks in the game.
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>>253398390
I think his Adventures design was best.
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>>253401581
I can't really tell how far off model it is from that angle. The most glaring issue that I'm seeing is the lack of fur and the textures in general.
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>>253403087
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As it's going the Super Smash Sisters route, I'm almost expecting Krystal, Dixie, and Impa all to be added.

On the plus side of course, Krystal probably wouldn't be another fox clone.
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>>253387848
I actually thought Assault was a very good game. But fans of the series just want to play 64 for the rest of their lives apparently.
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I wanna spank that butt
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>>253404839
>not wolf
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>>253404839
>Spank
>Not bury your face in
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>>253405094
>not wanting to be butt vored
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If she did make it in, what do you think her Final Smash would be?
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>>253405595
Landmaster
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>>253405595
Arwing
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>>253405703
>>253405595
Tricky functioning exactly like a landmaster
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>>253405595
being raped by dinosaurs
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>>253353258
Sakurai has actually wanted Wolf for a long time.

I don't see him going anywhere. Eapecially since he's a villain and the most original of the secondary Star Fox reps.
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>>253406471
One of them was actually completed, was pretty good.
Well, all things considered, anyway.
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Will she be in Smash, guys?
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>>253406141
>It's a reskinned orgasm girl
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>>253351830
Star what ?
Is it some kind of furry star wars game ?
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>>253407225
She better be
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>>253351830
I've heard from many that there's only one more character announcement left. Is that true? If so, it'd better be a Star Fox character.

And if it is true, is there any chance characters could be in the game that aren't announced?
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>>253407340
Is this bait?

On the off chance it isn't, its Star Fox. And you aren't far off base. Its an on rails shooter where you play furries piloting spaceships called Arwings and fighting bad guys using them. In some games you can get out of the Arwing and do other stuff. Its pretty fun.
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>not letting falco be more of a street fighting brawler
>not letting slippy have a move set similar to tails in sonic battle (gadgets and such)
>not letting Krystal just be a trophy

Y'all motherfuckers hate fun, don't you?
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>playing Melee on dolphin
>fucks up and plays at 90FPS for whatever reason
>managed to four stock Marth as Fox
I hope he has his speed
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>>253408140
>implying any character being a trophy rather than playable is fun
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>>253407552

Sakurai said they were reaching the bottom of the newcomers they were planning on doing reveals for, so we'll probably get only one more video along the lines of the Little Mac/Lucina-Robin reveals before the game releases in September.
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>>253354002
4 characters is like 5% of a single game's cast.
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>>253408449
>they were planning on doing reveals for
Then there's a good chance there might be some other newcomers and old characters in it?
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>>253384520
>why does FE get a semi-annual game while Star Fox is dead?

Because it takes no talent to run a grid-based strategy game through a random map generator and draw new variations of the same character.

Star Fox games actually require level design, you know, shit that takes work and talent.
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>>253408979

There will almost certainly be newcomers and veterans that aren't officially announced before the game releases.
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>>253357737
>Diddy getting fucked by browser
>then enter dixie
>then this song plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McgXsY-bmHw
you know what this means
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>>253412865
First time I'm actually seeing the Renamon edit
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>>253408106
But I'm not a furry, so I guess it's not for me.
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>>253415882
You don't need to be. You could be in it for the gameplay or whatever. What the characters look like isn't important. Its a Nintendo series, so its pretty much guaranteed fun.
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>>253387231
just practice.
Ice Climbers are easy as fuck to do it with because of their jump noise being a huge audio cue
Luigi is another one thats alright for practice, he's not as easy as IC's but its extremely noticeable when you do it successfully
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>>253393448
>playing roy
That said i have no idea how he handles in Project M
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>>253409318
i think nobody knew wolf was even in last time until the game hit in japan and we got screencaps of the roster
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>>253351830
cause Star Fox's reps are all literally clones. but Falco and Wolf weren't even announced for Brawl and they still got in. so maybe we will get another
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>>253354002
hey fire emblem having four would be okay, if two of them weren't from the same game
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>>253357737
>>253357915
they should just make her the girl version of Diddy
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>No Advance wars characters in smash o even a game.
Why?
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>>253419379
That girl was pretty good-looking
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>>253418742
I don't know what I would do if Chibiterasu were in the roster.

That would be the bee's knees.
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>>253412865
>Compare Lucario, Krystal, and Renamon pic counts on e621
>The latter has almost/has more than the former two combined

How?
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